help-development

[granite burrow]

Oh my, I feel dumb. Thank you so much. I need to do more research into game profiles IG

[river oracle]

you're not setting the ItemMeta back

[timid berry]

it just shows a space

maybe its the purple

no

its not the color

im not sure whats wrong

something is happeing to the item cuz normal swords dont have that space

but text wont show

[rough ibex]

run /data get on it

see what the lore is coming out to

[echo basalt]

/data get @s SelectedItem

would be 10x faster to learn the spigot API but he's deciding to rawdog it

[timid berry]

that commaned does not work

but

running it on my self

shows it kind of

customenchatattempt2:venom

oh there /data works

[rough ibex]

the lore isn't being set

[timid berry]

code says otherwise

[rough ibex]

getLore() returns the set lore

It may be returning an empty list?

hard to say when you only post screenshots of 10 lines

instead of your actual source code

[timid berry]

because that code sets the lore

[rough ibex]

okay so post the rest of it

it may be ran at all

you're asking me to work with very limited context

[timid berry]

see that extra space

its not there if i dont modify anything

so i know the lore is being modified

just not to what i want

[rough ibex]

your /data says otherwise

it says there is no lore component at all

[timid berry]

is it a client issue?

[rough ibex]

no

/data is reporting what the server knows

[timid berry]

but my code says otherwise 😭

[rough ibex]

well your code says a lot of things

such as: i need a formatter

[timid berry]

thats irrelevent

[rough ibex]

indeed

[timid berry]

okay i got it

[rough ibex]

yes?

[timid berry]

yes

it works

[rough ibex]

now please refactor it

a lot of indents here...

[timid berry]

thats alot of work

[rough ibex]

this is 50 lines

about 25 of actual logic

also naming conventions

[timid berry]

spaces help me organize

[timid berry]

no one will care unless they decompile

[rough ibex]

ithink is literally not indented at all

that's a poor attitude towards your code

[timid berry]

im just say

theres no point

or use

ill fix indeent

[river oracle]

this person does not care, they never read anything I say fail to follow well outlined guides and refuse to improve their java knowledge before continuing

[timid berry]

but names r okay

[river oracle]

so

not worth the fight

[timid berry]

my java is enougj

[rough ibex]

you're not going to write good code in the future if the code you write now continues to be awful

[timid berry]

u guys just keep saying

learn java

[rough ibex]

your java is not enough

            Player player = (Player) commandSender;``` this sticks out like a sore thumb

[timid berry]

the problem i asked u for help with was not caused by my lack of knowledge

in java

[rough ibex]

I don't know what your problem was caused by because you never told us

one with enough java knowledge would know the naming conventions

like not naming your class 'venomcmd'

does this need to be public and open?

the fact you're naming it '2' signals you don't have a version control system

[echo basalt]

cmarco behavior

[echo basalt]

(it's not)

(you're in denial because doing the process itself takes longer than just achieving what you want right now)

(even if it takes 1.5x longer to do anything)

[timid berry]

chat in anvilview event

what is the first and 2nd slot?

[rough ibex]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/inventory/PrepareAnvilEvent.html

getView

getItem

[timid berry]

what about the result?

[timid berry]

u right

[rough ibex]

javadocs

[timid berry]

i was tryna out random combos

[rough ibex]

you mean you were trying out

having enough java knowledge also means being able to read javadocs

[timid berry]

I know how to read it

so for my project structures i have the mainfile then i have a folder called enchants where each enchant i want is a file like venom.class

now I can only have one event handel

so im thinking of giving

every single enchant file

the event

to processes it

(like in the file it will check if the enchant book that the player wants to use matches it)

idk whats the better way to do this

but anyways after I pass off e to venom

i cant access certain parts of it

[nova notch]

why is an AnvilView named e, the event for preparing anvil is called envil, and your class name for venom is all lowercase???

youre passing in an Event and then casting it to a player???

[timid berry]

oh yah ignore that

i think its time for me to get sleep

my brain will work better in the morning (it wont)

[nova notch]

im not even religious but lord have mercy on anyone reading your code

dont just name things random bullshit like e because no one knows what a single letter means, unless its like catching an exception or something

it also doesnt even save time because autocomplete exists

[rough ibex]

this doesn't logically make sense

passing events to a file (I know as some in-memory abstraction)

ideally you would have your config files read into their own discrete objects

and a flexible config system

[glad prawn]

He used sleepiness to cover up his lack of knowledge of Java

[rough ibex]

you might say he needs a cup of java to learn java

[glad prawn]

Lol

[timid berry]

why would i lie

if i wanted to cover it up

it would just deny it

like every

other single time

[glad prawn]

🤫

[echo basalt]

rookie numbers

nvm you got more work hours than me :(

[timid berry]

Lol

I do some spigot dev during school break too

That’s why my hours are a lot sometimes

[echo basalt]

I don't go to school

@blazing ocean are you proud

[blazing ocean]

based

[quaint mantle]

per day?

then yeah its p good

if its per week, you can do better.

I get like 6-7+hrs a day

[echo basalt]

it's per week

I know I can do better but at the same time I've kinda ran out of things to do

[quaint mantle]

same

I just code a Hypixel Skyblock remake these days

[echo basalt]

Nowadays if I'm coding I'd like to get paid for it

[quaint mantle]

I dont like to get paid for coding

It puts immense amount of stress on me

[echo basalt]

Personal projects don't bring me much. Sure exposure and portfolio is fine but I'm already good

[blazing ocean]

dude I wish

[quaint mantle]

• i am not good enough to do paid projects

[echo basalt]

I am, womp womp

[quaint mantle]

I mean just look at my code.

[echo basalt]

There comes a point where you can do a lot in very little time

[quaint mantle]

Yea

[echo basalt]

So pushing yourself for 30+ hours a week takes a toll on your mental because you're thinking a lot more and throwing shit at the wall a lot less

[remote swallow]

You mean like getting a redbull and a kebab and eating it in about 2 min

[quaint mantle]

I mean, with skyblock I get to do testing and stuff so its a lil fun

[echo basalt]

~70% of my code works first-try

[quaint mantle]

Pretty much me too

I just try to design code better so it takes time

[echo basalt]

I got so used to my redbull breakfast that I could just chug a can in under 10 seconds

[remote swallow]

Kekw

[echo basalt]

you appreciate it a lot less and it just kicks in all at once

[blazing ocean]

Illusion do you ever eat something that's not takeout

[echo basalt]

ur mum

[blazing ocean]

no u

[echo basalt]

I'll prob go to the store today and get some frozen pizzas n shit

also 90% of my meals are delivered, not takeout

you really think I go outside?

[quaint mantle]

yeah

[echo basalt]

learned last week that lidl has pizza pockets

[blazing ocean]

right I meant that

[echo basalt]

I'm doing an active effort to have less food delivered and just eat more frozen stuff

mostly because I'm 19 and I'm spending at least a minimum wage in food every month

and that's too much

I can instead spend half of that in food and the other half in other stuff 😏

like christmas gifts

and alcohol

[remote swallow]

More monitors

[echo basalt]

sure

[blazing ocean]

okay but do you eat it frozen or do you fry it again

[echo basalt]

microwave / bake

I have an air fryer too

I don't really use oil when I "cook"

if I do I just dip a napkin and use it to coat a frying pan

then fry my egg or whatever

[remote swallow]

I would hope you don't, keyboards and computers aren't compatible with oil

[echo basalt]

genz humor type shit

go back to doomscrolling

but yeah back to working for money

I wouldn't really say I'm having fun when coding anymore so there's zero excuse for me to work for free

[timid berry]

Those who know 💀

[nova notch]

make fried rice

shit is so good and so easy to make

[quaint mantle]

shit

[summer scroll]

Same for me, doing personal projects feels useless.

[patent quarry]

Hello I'm trying to create a BlockData with only the tag open for a barrel.
So I typed : BlockData toAdd = Bukkit.createBlockData("minecraft:barrel[open=true]");
But then when I parse the 'toAdd' blockdata I have a new tag in addition : facing=north.

Someone know why (maybe its a bug) and how I can create a clean BlockData with only the tag I specified ?

[sullen marlin]

BlockData always has all tags, but explicitly set ones can be manipulated through eg https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/data/BlockData.html#merge(org.bukkit.block.data.BlockData)

Or https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/data/BlockData.html#getAsString(boolean) with true

[patent quarry]

Okay so I think I can't create a Barrel item that has only the tag open

[sullen marlin]

Yes you can, it just needs to be manipulated appropriately

[patent quarry]

but with merge I cant delete the tag facing ?

[sullen marlin]

Well you'd merge it onto the existing block which has the facing yeah you want

[patent quarry]

I dont want any facing

[sullen marlin]

A barrel will always be facing somewhere

[patent quarry]

not when it is an item

it can be undefined

/give @s barrel[block_state={open:"true"}]

It places an open barrel and the facing it determinated when the player place it

[sullen marlin]

I've pushed a fix

[patent quarry]

Damm that was fast, thank you !

The method Bukkit.createBlockData("minecraft:barrel[open=true]") still generate the unpecified tag

[sullen marlin]

toString shows all tags

[patent quarry]

Okay it's fine thank you md_5

[patent quarry]

getBlockData(Material material) applies also the defaultData that is why I was confused, in my testing code at first I get the data from one item and then parse it into another.
I opened a suggestion ticket for that https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-7963.

[patent quarry]

Since I work on the barrel : /give @s barrel[container=[{slot:0,item:{id:apple}}]]
by any chance, is there a way to read the container tag?
Otherwise I will try to do a PR

[young knoll]

I think so

With BlockStateMeta

[patent quarry]

Ty I tried, but I see nothing maybe something in my side, I will double check

[young knoll]

Cast the state to container

[fading drift]

for my network wide party system should I be caching parties for each spigot server and then write communication between servers to update their cache when a party changes for example a player leaves

or should I just database lookup every time I need to get a party

first one i’m guessing tbh

[young knoll]

You probably want something like redis

[fading drift]

yeah I wrote that framework already

so it’s chill

just dreading actually rewriting the party system

I want to have a party manager class but not make it fucking massive

cus of all the if checks to check if player is in a party or checking for owner or checking party size etc

any tips to avoid this

[sly topaz]

just look at how other plugins do it

[fading drift]

true

[sly topaz]

https://github.com/simonsator/BungeecordPartyAndFriends this is the first one I found, don't know how good it is

[sonic goblet]

I just did this recently, can confirm all the owner/party member checks are dreadful lol, best of luck 🫡

[sly topaz]

https://github.com/Dominik48N/party-system finding a velocity one that was updated took me longer lol

[fading drift]

I can keep it all inside command code I think

tbh

and just have party manager only accessing like the database and the list

[patent quarry]

It works thank you

[fading drift]

props to that guy the code looks really well written

is there much performance negligence by looping through a map of parties every time I need to get the party of a player?

or should I keep a player uuid to party id map somewhere

[sly topaz]

I mean, if you don't expect to ever have a ton of parties, it shouldn't be an issue, but the fact that you have to loop over anything when you got a key-value map definitely strikes as a code smell

[wise chasm]

Is there a way to obtain a list of all permission groups with spigot api, instead of using a permissions plugin api like luckperms?

[sly topaz]

only with Spigot, you'd have to get their effective permissions and check for group.<something> type of permisisons

if you extend yourself a little with Vault, you could do Permission#getPlayerGroups

but generally, you'd want to use luckperms API anyway, nobody sane is using anything else

[wise chasm]

Thank you, appreciate it 🙌 Will look into it

[fading drift]

true, I was thinking of keeping maps tied to a uuid and then maybe saving player party to database

[sly topaz]

use something like a BiMap if you don't want to keep two maps around

[fading drift]

interesting

[charred flicker]

package de.thenobrainguy.serverplugin.lobby;

import org.bukkit.Material;
import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
import org.bukkit.event.EventHandler;
import org.bukkit.event.Listener;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerInteractEvent;
import org.bukkit.inventory.Inventory;
import org.bukkit.inventory.ItemStack;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public class LobbyPlayer extends JavaPlugin implements Listener {

@Override
public void onEnable() {
    getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);
}

@Override
public void onDisable() {
   
}

@EventHandler
public void onPlayerInteract(PlayerInteractEvent event) {
    Player player = event.getPlayer();
    Inventory inventory = player.getInventory();
    ItemStack itemInSlot5 = inventory.getItem(4);

    //
    if (itemInSlot5 != null && itemInSlot5.getType() == Material.ENDER_PEARL) {
        if (event.getClickedBlock() != null) {
            player.sendMessage("block");
        } else {
            player.sendMessage("air");
        }
    }
}

}

why is Material do not work

[blazing ocean]

?paste next time and update intellij

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[quaint mantle]

Anyone familiar with attributes for a Minecraft version which is about a decade old?

[kind hatch]

@pseudo hazel It got approved.

[pseudo hazel]

awesome, thanks for your efforts 👍

one step closer to a feature complete API 😛

[sly topaz]

attributes haven't really changed since their introduction

[quaint mantle]

How exactly do you add an attribute for an item?

[worldly ingot]

You don't in 1.8

API was added for that in like 1.13 or something

[quaint mantle]

I see

[sly topaz]

https://github.com/aadnk/AttributeStorage/tree/nms/AttributeStorage should be pretty much the same for 1.8

[upper hazel]

which event to use to change the biome into a snow biome AFTER generating a chunk and its buildings so that it snows instead of rains.

[sly topaz]

just set the biome of the chunk?

RegionAccessor#setBiome, World is a RegionAccessor

[worldly ingot]

This may prove to be much faster (4-5x)
They definitely pulled that number out of their ass

[shadow night]

I bet it's around x1.2 times faster after caching

[sly topaz]

eh, it could be that they weren't caching the Method instance

[shadow night]

Aha explains a lot

[shadow night]

Or 1.12

[sly topaz]

nowadays with cached method handles, you get same speed as direct access

[shadow night]

You do? Damn

[sly topaz]

yeah, method handles avoid having to check for access on each invocation by having a trusted lookup instance, so it is pretty much the same as directly calling a method yourself

[shadow night]

That's amazing

Ah I love reflection

[pure dagger]

how to make a command execute every day at the same time

[chrome beacon]

Assuming real time; you can use the ScheduledExecutorService

[timid berry]

how do i trigger this event?

its not printing anything to the console

[remote swallow]

compile properly first

[timid berry]

thats a very good place to start

[remote swallow]

[timid berry]

can i not add lore to a book?

[zealous osprey]

Idk, but may I suggest not overriding the lore, but instead adding to the existent one?

[timid berry]

there is no lore tho

existing

[zealous osprey]

Oh you are applying it to the book, not the item. Sorry

[fair rock]

The error tells you about the enchantment not the lore. Customenchattempt2, Line 40

Idk what you doing in addGlow but he dont like it

[timid berry]

Oh right

[lost matrix]

Could someone throw a spoof implementation of ServerGamePacketListenerImpl for 1.21.3 at me?
For NPCs

[sullen marlin]

Wdym

[lost matrix]

I've used an implementation with a dummy connection so that i can add it to a ServerPlayer

    this.nmsPlayer = new ServerPlayer(MinecraftServer.getServer(), world, gameProfile, ClientInformation.createDefault());
    this.nmsPlayer.connection = new PlayerConnectionSpoof(this.nmsPlayer);

[lilac dagger]

you can just give the connection of the player if it's packet only

but this is pretty interesting

[blazing ocean]

public class DummyConnection extends ServerGamePacketListenerImpl {

    private static final Connection DUMMY_CONNECTION = new Connection(PacketFlow.SERVERBOUND) {};

    public DummyConnection(ServerPlayer player, Profile profile) {
        super(MinecraftServer.getServer(), DUMMY_CONNECTION, player, CommonListenerCookie.createInitial(profile, false));
    }
}

[lost matrix]

Thx

[lilac dagger]

this works too

[blazing ocean]

you shouldn't really

[lilac dagger]

it's packet only

it's fine 😄

[blazing ocean]

well for me it wasn't fine

[lilac dagger]

it's one of these packets who need the connection anyway

and i looked it up and it doesn't need it for much

ye

this is why i think

it was really safe for me to just pass the player connection

[inner mulch]

does some1 know how wynncraft made their character selection, so that the player cant move its head? (with no lag, you cannot move at all)

[lilac dagger]

something boat related maybe?

[inner mulch]

can you not move the head in a boat?

[lilac dagger]

i think so? not sure actually

[remote swallow]

spectating an armor stand possibly

[lilac dagger]

oh yeah

spectating is a good one

[inner mulch]

couldnt i then leave with shift?

[lilac dagger]

you can cancel it

[inner mulch]

thank you guys, im gonna try it with armor stands

[lilac dagger]

good luck 😄

[blazing ocean]

You can spawn a boat entity, make the player ride it and then set the player's camera to another arbitrary entity

e.g. you can spawn the boat at y=10000 but have the camera be at y=20

https://pastes.dev/TeRzLOgXAM this is what I do for my stuff

(yarn mappings)

[blazing ocean]

(this is said stuff)

[sullen marlin]

That's pretty slay

[blazing ocean]

thank you

[alpine urchin]

what

say "you don't deserve it" if i'm slay

[blazing ocean]

you don't deserve it

[alpine urchin]

@blazing ocean thx

[young knoll]

Does anyone know more about the new custom model data conditions

[blazing ocean]

pretty sure they're just model conditions

[young knoll]

Specifically, I know there’s a condition for when the player is hovering over the item and holding shift

[blazing ocean]

not CMD conditions

[young knoll]

Is it possible to somehow change the lore with that condition or only the model

[blazing ocean]

They're rendered client-side

so no

[young knoll]

Sadge

[brittle geyser]

[21:01:34 ERROR]: [global] TIMING_STACK_CORRUPTION - Look above this for any errors and report this to Spigot unless it has a plugin in the stack trace (TimingIdentifier{id=Minecraft:plot_46 - doChunkMap} did not stopTiming)

[young knoll]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[blazing ocean]

do you have the ability to read

[brittle geyser]

no

[blazing ocean]

i heard it's a great prerequisite for asking for help

[brittle geyser]

what should i do?

[blazing ocean]

please

just

read the message

[brittle geyser]

(TimingIdentifier{id=Minecraft:plot_46 - doChunkMap} did not stopTiming)

[kind hatch]

Start from the top

[blazing ocean]

mf

[fading drift]

what’s with the rudeness

[kind hatch]

I propose every time a stacktrace that tells you to report the bug to whatever fork shows up, that we halt the server and force the user to acknowledge they have read the error message by forcing them to type in the full message. (Which would include the name of the fork)

[blazing ocean]

100%

[brittle geyser]

???

[nova notch]

Look above this for any errors and report this to Paper unless it has a plugin in the stack trace

[brittle geyser]

and

[nova notch]

bruh

[blazing ocean]

"and"?

[kind hatch]

lmao

[blazing ocean]

dude

[brittle geyser]

what do you want from me

[kind hatch]

Are you incapable of doing what that message said?

[blazing ocean]

you've got to be trolling

[kind hatch]

Report this issue to paper

Cause its their software

[brittle geyser]

there is no difference

paper/spigot

[blazing ocean]

nah md_5 made paper 👍

[kind hatch]

Mods

Ban this guy

[brittle geyser]

no mods

a

moderators

pon

[blazing ocean]

ah yes just 1000+ patches

[young knoll]

Did you

[kind hatch]

Oh wait, you right. My bad chief

[young knoll]

Edit your error to replace paper with spigot

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-ground-drop-oof-oop-die-play-dead-gif-18928206

[nova notch]

LMAO

[wraith delta]

Hmm, could an IDE be wrong? feel like my code is right, done this method plenty in other projects

[young knoll]

I mean it’s a static method

You should access it statically

[wraith delta]

Doesnt matter what combo, seems to get it wrong

[brittle geyser]

How to run world creating task asynchrounosly?

[young knoll]

You don’t

Spigot doesn’t support creating worlds async

[brittle geyser]

i need it

why

paper does?

[young knoll]

No idea

[blazing ocean]

idk man you might just wanna ask paper

little suggestion

[brittle geyser]

what is problem to create world asynchrounosly?

[brittle geyser]

idk man maybe you know the answer

and just say me it

i need to rewrite whole bukkit/spigot ?

who has hypixel server jar

[blazing ocean]

that is not something that is supported by the API in spigot

[blazing ocean]

@worldly ingot!

[floral drum]

hypixel does

[nova notch]

this guy is not real

[brittle geyser]

cause i am AI?

[nova notch]

i think ai is smarter tbh 😭

[kind hatch]

You sure fucking act like it

[blazing ocean]

Not GPT-1

[brittle geyser]

yes

exactly

[young knoll]

@worldly ingot can give you the hypixel server jar

[blazing ocean]

i need it for a school project

[floral drum]

I need it for educational purposes only

[young knoll]

My grandma is sick and needs it to get better

[blazing ocean]

the world will explode if you don't send the hypixel server jar to [e-mail]

[blazing ocean]

🫵

[lilac dagger]

that link is invalid send it to [e-mail]

obv jk 😄

[thin isle]

has someone found a way to change player tags (tablist & above head) with ProtocolLib in 1.20+?

[chrome beacon]

someone has yes

What part are you having problems with

[blazing ocean]

just send a player info update packet

[proper cobalt]

i know this is paper but im banned from paper discord,
is there a way to use Placeholder.parsed() on something that is ALREADY a component

[nova notch]

have you considered not being banned

like how do you even accomplish that

[proper cobalt]

idk i cant rmember

[chrome beacon]

Some people just can't avoid breaking rules

[proper cobalt]

i dont even think i did

[chrome beacon]

If you're banned

you did

[proper cobalt]

idk man could u help w my problem tho

[nova notch]

try asking paper 👍

[proper cobalt]

i just realised im not banned

im tweaking

i just rmember being banned

[nova notch]

good job

[sly topaz]

Placeholder#component is the answer for the record

that is also not Paper-specific API, but adventure's so it should be fine to ask anywhere really

[proper cobalt]

yk how ppl be in here

[nova notch]

i just thought it was funny that you were "banned"

[proper cobalt]

nah thats not what i mean

like i cant call mm#deserialize cuz that takes a string and placeholder

but i have a component and placeholder

[chrome beacon]

You can convert it from component to mini string

[proper cobalt]

how

[chrome beacon]

replace placeholder

and then convert it back

[proper cobalt]

eya

yea

that sounds good

[chrome beacon]

Check the adventure docs

[proper cobalt]

ahhhh

long

[sly topaz]

there should be a better way to do this, give me a second

[chrome beacon]

probably

[proper cobalt]

thanks g

[chrome beacon]

Practice reading the docs in the meantime

[young knoll]

Adventure does have a replacement system

But it’s more complicated

[sly topaz]

wait, how does the component contain the placeholder? Is it just a string there?

[sly topaz]

it's very annoyingly abstracted and implemented in a weird way, I hate using it

[proper cobalt]

yeah i know

what im trying to do is fix legacy code

and yes it used the wierd text replacement system

but surely theres a btr way now

[young knoll]

Dont componentify it early

:p

[sly topaz]

the best way for that is really the text replacement system

[proper cobalt]

aight thx for the help guys

[sly topaz]

ideally as Coll said, you keep it as a string until all the mm placeholders are parsed

[proper cobalt]

aye

[sly topaz]

if you do want to convert it into a mm string and back like Olivo suggested, i.e. for chat messages which you have no control over

you just have to MiniMessage#serialize then deserialize

[mortal vortex]

is it okay to ask paper questions here?

[echo basalt]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[mortal vortex]

Yeah I understand that, but is it that big a difference

[slender elbow]

have you considered asking in the paper discord?

[mortal vortex]

They scare me

[slender elbow]

weirdge

[young knoll]

Emily especially

She’s extra spooky

I mean look at that profile banner

[slender elbow]

oh I forgot to change it back

fixed

[young knoll]

That’s not less spooky

[sly topaz]

paper-specific API is a bit of a reach, but there's people who are willing to help either way

rather than asking if it is allowed, just ask the question and hope for the best

you'll either get mocked for not asking on the proper discord or just get help

[young knoll]

Or both

[forest shuttle]

Hey, I have something of a bit dumb question I don't know if anyone here can help me:

So, I've created this custom entity that performs several actions, and I want it to keep doing its thing even when no players are nearby or when they're offline.
Initially, I thought about tracking the ChunkUnloadEvent and canceling it if the entity is within that chunk. However, I discovered that since Minecraft 1.14, ChunkUnloadEvent can't be canceled anymore.
As a workaround, I set setForceLoaded(true) on the chunk and then scheduled a runnable to set setForceLoaded(false) after a couple of seconds to prevent the chunk from being force-loaded indefinitely, as I believe this method works in vanilla Minecraft. But then I realized that ChunkUnloadEvent.getChunk().getEntities() often returns an empty array because entities are unloaded separately...
So, I tried the same approach with EntitiesUnloadEvent (which also can't be canceled). But I'm encountering two issues:

• As far as I know, there's a limit on how many chunks can be set as force-loaded.
• These workarounds seem somewhat sketchy to me.

So far, I haven't found a better solution. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has faced a similar issue and how they managed to tackle it in a more elegant way...

[worthy yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066841239992934410/1251680366297612398/caption.gif

[junior geyser]

What actions are being preformed? Could you not just keep track if how long the server has been running and then calculate what should have happened in that time. Rather than actually trying to do that thing with an entity constantly?

[forest shuttle]

It's a custom NMS entity with an extensive codebase and AI.
It acts essentially like a player.
For something simpler like a "Farming entity," that approach might have been ideal, but due to the amount and complexity of the actions I don't find feasible to pre-calculate all possible interactions.

[junior geyser]

Thats hard. I dont know if you will find a way that is not 'sketch'. First thing that comes to mind is to do some trickery to make the server think there is a real player at the entity, thereby it would automatically keep everything loadded around it by design

[junior geyser]

Lol I found an open sourse pluhin that does just that: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/fakeplayer-redstone-technical-1-20-x-1-21.118375/

[wispy steppe]

Is there any API for detecting when a player's warden warning level changes (not anger level, but the warning level which leads to a warden spawning)? Or perhaps once a warden spawns a way to tell which player caused it to spawn?

Seems like no but wanna validate in case I'm missing something

[forest shuttle]

Hmm it seems that they are emulating player packets and sending it to the server itself.
I would love to avoid that xD

Seems like trickery might be needed for now :D

[mortal vortex]

Why does this shit happen? i've invalidated caches, thrice

[young knoll]

Is your dependency set up correctly

[mortal vortex]

Yeah man it builds fine.

even @NotNull which is an annotation?

wtf

This project was maven, i did my best to piece by piece convert it to gradle. but clearly something is off

[mortal vortex]

Wait, if it wasnt, would it still build

it builds fine

[worthy yarrow]

Is your IJ updated? @mortal vortex

IJ likes to fuck around 😄

[barren peak]

does player.isInWater() return true only if a player is standing in water block or does it also return true if they are standing in the rain

[echo basalt]

removeWhenFarAway

[wide cipher]

my plugin.yml looks like this ```name: Skonic
version: '${project.version}'
main: ca.nagasonic.skonic.Skonic
api-version: '1.19'
depend:

• [Skript, ProtocolLib]
  softdepend:
• [Citizens]but it can't find the dependencies, even though i have them in my server[15:43:30 ERROR]: [ModernPluginLoadingStrategy] Could not load 'plugins\Skonic-1.0.5.jar' in 'plugins'
  org.bukkit.plugin.UnknownDependencyException: Unknown/missing dependency plugins: [[ProtocolLib]]. Please download and install these plugins to run 'Skonic'.
  at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.strategy.modern.ModernPluginLoadingStrategy.loadProviders(ModernPluginLoadingStrategy.java:82) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at io.papermc.paper.plugin.storage.SimpleProviderStorage.enter(SimpleProviderStorage.java:39) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.LaunchEntryPointHandler.enter(LaunchEntryPointHandler.java:36) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:431) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.initServer(DedicatedServer.java:273) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.runServer(MinecraftServer.java:1104) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$spin$0(MinecraftServer.java:320) ~[paper-1.19.4.jar:git-Paper-550]
  at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583) ~[?:?]```

[sullen marlin]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[mortal hare]

i came back to this after a while again 😂. Ok if business logic would strain the database that could be shifted to an application, then why do we really use foreign keys or primary keys? After all, these are data constraints which check if id is unique both to a row and to table, which is kind of a business logic?

doesnt this imply that some logic like data integrity checking with constraints should be preferred to do on database to not ruin the database outside external custom sql client

[echo basalt]

sql glazer fr

[mortal hare]

im pretty sure primary key constraints are really not needed, but you should prefer them. and if you're missing an performance from primary key constraint, you can always create INDEX for that column manually, because all PRIMARY KEY does is it adds PRIMARY KEY constraint to check if the key uniquely identifies the column within a table and a dedicated INDEX to speed up lookup times for it

[summer scroll]

Is there in any way to modify block break speed for specific tool?

[mortal hare]

attributes api

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/attribute/Attribute.html

you just need to apply that attribute to specific itemstack

[summer scroll]

Ah thanks, is it possible to only apply the speed on specific block only?

Maybe I need to dynamically add/remove attribute based on block that player interacts?

[mortal hare]

im pretty sure its possible because i've saw some conditional attributes done with command blocks back in 1.8 days 😄

i havent touched api for a while so im not really sure

[summer scroll]

Well thank you, it's a start for me.

[wide cipher]

i did, and it still didnt work

[sly topaz]

you're combining a scalar and a flow sequence in that yaml

either do:

depend:
  - Skript
  - ProtocolLib

or:

depend: [Skript, ProtocolLib]

not both

[timid berry]

why is the code saying the item has the lore even tho it my client does not see it

[sly topaz]

try it in survival

[timid berry]

oh

[graceful oak]

Ive been playing around with item displays and trying to use them instead of armor stands but the movment doesnt feel very fluid when im rotating. Is this something I can fix or am i better off still using armor stands at this point

[timid berry]

works thanks

[timid berry]

whats the best way to get rid of it?

do i set the cursor item to null?

i mean

get rid of the ehcnated book

[sly topaz]

the reason this happens is because creative inventory is mostly client-sided, so click events don't quite works as one expect. There's InventoryCreativeEvent though so you may try handling it with that if you care about creative interaction

[timid berry]

after the sword has been enchanted

[sly topaz]

the event happens before the action happens, so yes, just set the cursor to air

just make sure to test it doesn't get bugged or anything

[sly topaz]

how are you rotating the item display

[graceful oak]

Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimer(MinevolutionCore.getCore(), new Runnable() {
            private float angle = 0.0f; // The current angle of the rotation
            private long lastTime = System.currentTimeMillis(); // Last time we updated the angle
            private Quaternionf targetRotation = new Quaternionf(); // Target rotation (for interpolation)
            private final float rotationSpeed = 1f; // Degrees per second
            private final float slerpAlpha = 1f; // Interpolation alpha for smoothness

            @Override
            public void run() {
                // Delta time in seconds (time between ticks)
                long currentTime = System.currentTimeMillis();
                float deltaTime = (currentTime - lastTime) / 1000.0f; // Convert to seconds
                lastTime = currentTime;

                // Calculate the angle change based on the speed and delta time
                angle += rotationSpeed * deltaTime;
                if (angle >= 360.0f) {
                    angle -= 360.0f; // Wrap the angle around when it exceeds 360 degrees
                }

                // Update the target rotation with the new angle
                targetRotation = new Quaternionf().rotateY(angle);

                // Get the current transformation
                Transformation transformation = itemDisplay.getTransformation();

                // Perform smooth rotation using slerp
                transformation.getLeftRotation().slerp(targetRotation, slerpAlpha);

                // Apply the updated transformation
                itemDisplay.setTransformation(transformation);
            }
        }, 0L, 1L).getTaskId();

This is the smoothest I could get it to work

[sly topaz]

the reason people use it display entities is to take advantage of client-side interpolation

[graceful oak]

Doesnt look horrible but could look better with armor stands

[sly topaz]

right now you're not taking advantage of interpolation by doing it server-side

[graceful oak]

So do you mean there isnt a way to do it through a plugin or the way im doing it is wrong

[sly topaz]

the latter

private final long durationInTicks = 20L;
 
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimer(MinevolutionCore.getCore(), new Runnable() {
    private float angle = 0.0f; // The current angle of the rotation
    private final float rotationSpeed = 1f; // Degrees per second

    @Override
    public void run() {
        // Calculate the new angle
        angle += rotationSpeed * (durationInTicks * 50 / 1000.0f);
        if (angle >= 360.0f) {
            angle -= 360.0f; // Wrap the angle around when it exceeds 360 degrees
        }

        // Compute the target transformation
        Transformation transformation = new Transformation();
        transformation.setLeftRotation(new Quaternionf().rotateY((float) Math.toRadians(angle)));

        // Apply the transformation with interpolation
        itemDisplay.setInterpolationDuration(durationInTicks); // Total duration for interpolation
        itemDisplay.setInterpolationDelay(-1); // No delay
        itemDisplay.setTransformation(transformation);
    }
}, 0L, durationInTicks).getTaskId();

try something like this

[graceful oak]

Ill give it a try

[sly topaz]

ah I forgot to divide the duration for the interpolation duration, should be in ticks

[graceful oak]

So if I understand correctly this will give it a new position to rotate to and sets the duration of the rotation to start until the next fire of this run?

[sly topaz]

it's actually kinda borked since I just edited your code halfassedly lol

the intent is for it to do a full rotation every 1 second

[graceful oak]

I mean I understand the concept so I dont mind playing around a bit I didnt even know about the interpolation I just saw a slerp and figured that was the way to go lol

Ok I got it working thanks looks way smoother

[echo basalt]

dawg no one cares

[summer scroll]

Could you show me videos of that to see how smooth it is please?

[sage patio]

any idea what packet should i send to change display name of an armorstand?

[echo basalt]

entity metadata

iirc index 3 is a boolean determining "custom name visible" and number 4 is an optional of a text component

might have the indexes switched up

nvm I'm entirely wrong

[sly topaz]

is is as smooth as it gets

https://pastes.dev/6UzF6Tu19x

I spent way more time fidling with that timer method than I reasonably should have lol

@graceful oak not sure if you ended up doing it in various cycles, but that above snippet does it in 1 cycle and it is pretty smooth

[orchid trout]

why are you showing off after you were helped with each step of the process

[eternal oxide]

Look at what I copied papa!!

[sly topaz]

why the need to be an ass

they were glad they got it working and wanted people to see, that's all

if you don't care then just go about your day, no need to make the shitty comment

[eternal oxide]

Its good to be proud, it pushes you to do more.

[clear elm]

How can i add an hologram to an block

[eternal oxide]

TextDisplay, ItemDisplay, BlockDisplay

[clear elm]

i mean a text that is over the block

like a name tag

[pseudo hazel]

textdisplay

[eternal oxide]

TextDisplay

[clear elm]

thanks

[jade oasis]

someone able to help me with a plugin thing im trying to do

[young knoll]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[jade oasis]

ah

my bad

Right now im trying to do a /staffmode plugin which i managed to make it go into spectator mode but when i run the command it doesnt take me out of it and im having trouple setting that up im wondering if someone knows what to do for it to take me out of it

[young knoll]

Set the gamemode to something other than spectator?

[jade oasis]

i sent you the code i was doing maybe you can see what i did wrong

[young knoll]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[jade oasis]

i can send links here?

https://paste.md-5.net/bulubatosu.java

ah there

[eternal oxide]

you else code will never run

[jade oasis]

how come

[young knoll]

That if statement will always be true when a player runs the command

[jade oasis]

what can i do to fix it

[smoky anchor]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

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[smoky anchor]

forgot this one is long af sorry

[young knoll]

Have an if statement that checks the gamemode instead

[jade oasis]

i tried putting if statement but i couldnt find what i feel like i was meant to be looking for

[eternal oxide]

p.setGameMode(p.getGameMode() == GameMode.SPECTATOR ? BameMode.CREATIVE : GameMode.SPECTATOR);

that will toggle between the two modes

[jade oasis]

so get rid of the things under else as that isnt needed

[jade oasis]

that worked thanks very much any suggestion on what to do so the p.sendMessage says something else for when it basically disables the staff mode

[eternal oxide]

p.sendMessage(p.getGameMode() == SPECTATOR ? "You are a Spectator" : "You are in Creative");

[jade oasis]

thank you very much

[jade oasis]

would i be allowed to ask you a question in dms by chance

[eternal oxide]

I don't do DMs

[jade oasis]

understandable ig ill ask here from your experience since im new would me trying to make a /turn command plugin help more also learn more since i wanna make that but dk if its something that would be hard

[eternal oxide]

Creating any plugin is good experience.

[noble current]

there is any way that I can pay someone to upgrade a plugin?

[eternal oxide]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[jade oasis]

would a /turn Player plugin be hard to make you think atleast for me given these questioned i asked above

[eternal oxide]

I've no idea what a turn plugin is

[jade oasis]

/turn IGN would turn a player 180 degrees

[eternal oxide]

it would a good experience as you'd have to learn about teleportingf a player and calculating directions/vectors

[jade oasis]

is there any videos on this kinda thing or should it be easy me learning from full scratch

[hushed spindle]

so basically what /rotate now does?

[jade oasis]

asssuming it turns a player 180 degrees then yh

[hushed spindle]

i mean not just 180 degrees but any rotation

its a new command

so maybe you dont even really need to make a turn command

[jade oasis]

if you wanna send me the link to it ill look but also thinking of my own custom 1 cause it also teaches me yk what i mean

[hushed spindle]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Commands/rotate

[jade oasis]

@eternal oxide sorry if im a little annoying at all

[quaint mantle]

Isn't it better to do this?

Player p = (Player) commandSender;```

[eternal oxide]

no, depends on your java version

[young knoll]

Now you get an ugly error when it’s not a player

[quaint mantle]

Was that for me? or?

if(!(commandSender) instanceof Player)) {
//Do the magik here
}

[young knoll]

You might as well do the casting inside the instanceof

Provider you aren’t on an ancient version

[quaint mantle]

Ah

I use an ancient version

[young knoll]

?howold 1.8.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.8.8

[quaint mantle]

Quite young

[sonic goblet]

We’re approaching a decade

[young knoll]

Half the 1.8 players are younger than 1.8

?howold 1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.8

[quaint mantle]

?howold 1.7

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.7

[quaint mantle]

Fun

[slender elbow]

?howold 1.5

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.5

[glad prawn]

?howold 0

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/0

[quaint mantle]

Version 0 was never public 😔

[mortal hare]

i swear to god

that oracle apex

is so shitty product

how is missing comma doesnt emit validation error here

i've spent an hour trying to see why my query doesnt work

debug doesnt show anything

no console logs nothing, no STDERR, no STDOUT

f.... terrible

[proper radish]

So let's say I am making a DB table for players' cosmetics, where each cosmetic has its unique ID.
If I design it denormalized, it would look like this:

--------+----------------
UUID_1  | (null)
UUID_2  | [1,5,23]
UUID_3  | [5,12,45,50]

In this case, I'm storing all the player's cosmetics in a single column. To store the equipped cosmetics, I put it at the beginning of the array, so:

• UUID_1 has no cosmetics.
• UUID_2 has 3 cosmetics (1, 5, 23), with 1 being equipped.
• UUID_3 has 4 cosmetics (5, 12, 45, 50), with 5 being equipped.

I *understand *the "Benefits of Normalization," but let's assume the average amount of cosmetics for each player is 5. This means I would store n(5) cosmetics for each player. If I have, for example, 300K offline players, I will need to store around 1.5 million UUIDs.

Wouldn't this negatively affect scalability? Or is it still better to use a normalized design like this:

 UUID + Cos + Eq
-------+----+---
UUID_1 | 1  | 0
UUID_1 | 24 | 0
UUID_2 | 6  | 1
UUID_2 | 31 | 0
UUID_3

Which design do you think would scale be better for large datasets like 500K offline players?

[mortal hare]

well its a tradeoff between querying and insertion performance

with normalized dataset you can do more advanced SQL queries by selecting values by specific condition.
with non-normalized form you will be able to efficiently store the cosmetics, but you lose the ability or querying that easily

if you're looking for a way to serialize data from the game and then deserialize at load and there's no further operations with it, i would prefer the first one, as it is more efficient approach for large volumes of data, since you wouldnt use custom SELECT's, JOIN's or UPDATE's

although it could be cumbersome if you lets say would want to purge some type of cosmetics from specific players

i would say maybe try to benchmark this

see if those UUID's really cause some performance issues

after all, primary keys are being indexed

so it shouldnt be really a problem for insertions or select operations

but it probably needs some testing

[proper radish]

osmetics aren't something players will change constantly, like kills or deaths. So, when a player joins, I'll perform some initial queries to load their cosmetics. Whenever a player buys or changes a cosmetic, I'll update the data accordingly

i am storing uuids as bytes tho

so it takes 16 instead of >=32

[mortal hare]

will you include some admin functionality which would allow you to remove add cosmetics from the players?

[proper radish]

no, players can buy / change their own cosmetics thats it

then i will cache all the data when player joins

[mortal hare]

well then first option should scale better

[proper radish]

so when the game starts i will get the cosmetic from the cache not the db

[mortal hare]

since you would only use the database for persistent storage

and not for querying implicit data from it

what you can do is kind of hybrid approach, is to maybe retrieve the data from db, deserialize it, cache it and then transform it into normalized form

depends on how you will cache it tho

[proper radish]

alright so now :

1

 UUID -+- Cosmetics
--------+----------------
UUID_1  | [1,5,23]
UUID_2  | [5,12,45,50]

In this case, I'm storing all the player's cosmetics in a single column. To store the equipped cosmetics, I put it at the beginning of the array, so:

or 2

 UUID + Cosmetics + Eq
------+-----------+----
UUID_1 | [1,5,23] | 5
UUID_2 | [4,7,29] | 4

[mortal hare]

in this latter case i think it doesnt really matter which you choose as it wouldnt save much anyways, equipped in the second version will use integer tho in this case so it will probably use 4-8 bytes at most

[eternal night]

I'd really suggest benchmarking this

[ivory sleet]

Multivalued attributes are in generally considered bad right in terms of normalization practices

kinda makes it nosql

[mortal hare]

yes, but sometimes they're bad for performance

[ivory sleet]

that too

[eternal night]

Like, this seems like such a common usecase, I would not be surprised if the sql implements correctly optize this

[mortal hare]

he's asking whether normalization would impact performance at 300k UUID datasets, with many to many relationships, around ~ 1.5 million UUID's

[jade oasis]

should i be using p.getlocation etc or player#getLocation#getYaw for a command plugin that turns a player 180 degrees when the command is typed in chat

[mortal hare]

i would probably develop a benchmark with puts dummy data inside a db

[eternal oxide]

Player#getLocation() then nodify the yaw and teleport the player

[mortal hare]

and then i would run a plugin

to see if that impact it in any way significantly

in a normalized form first

[jade oasis]

i dont know much about this yaw situation could you possibly help

[mortal hare]

and then if there's something wrong i would denormalize it

[ivory sleet]

But like it so depends on what kind of queries and sub queries we run

Unless we just care about physical storage where there is a definite answer

[mortal hare]

yeah, he said that he mostly will be using database for persisted storage, a.k.a for serialization/deserialization, so he wouldnt use any complex SQL queries like joins or conditional searches

[ivory sleet]

sure for now, but if u’re talking about horizontally scaling it to support 500k users chances r u gonna be interested in more complex queries and data analysis in the future

[mortal hare]

so in this case imo non-normalized form would make more sense, but if his database engine can handle that much UUID's in normalized form without a hitch then does it really matter at this point to develop complex application level deserialization

[mortal hare]

i agree, i would probably just try to build database in 3rd normalized for at first

try to push 300 K UUID data

test it with a plugin

if it does lag i would do some optimizations like denormalize some parts which impact the most

i highly doubt that it would really do much difference, but idk, it all depends on database engine and the hardware the plugin runs on

https://tenor.com/view/depends-it-depends-depend-depending-gif-9450980667299967764

[ivory sleet]

Yup

[mortal hare]

worst thing in software development ☝️

[ivory sleet]

but also might be worth routing nosql if u don’t care about data relations

[pseudo hazel]

yeah but also most common thing, if it didnt depend we wouldnt be needed

[mortal hare]

you can see yaw values in F3 menu

[mortal hare]

if it all depends, why do we build generic products then

which turn out mostly shit

IT DEPENDS™️

[rough drift]

™️

[frail willow]

How do I write a tab completer that allows me to complete a pattern just like typing //set <pattern>

[mortal hare]

it depends

again

doggo

[jade oasis]

unless im blind i saw nothing

[mortal hare]

im not sure which one is pitch and which one is yaw

tho

i cant remember

but you can figure it out by rotating the camera up and down and in the sides

you just set those yaw and pitch values for the player via bukkit api you get from this debug screen and that's it

you've rotated player model

[eternal oxide]

Not quite

to rotate/move the player you have to alter teh Location object and then teleport the player

[jade oasis]

tryna figure out what to type and where to type it cause i want it like a staff command so when a staff does /turn <player_name> it roates the player 180 degrees

[mortal hare]

i guess yeah

[hushed spindle]

you should really just learn java first and then watch some videos on spigot api

making commands is piss easy but if you're not doing the bare minimum of learning java basics you're gonna struggle with everything

[mortal hare]

i mean commands are part of bukkit api, so he might be not used to bukkit api

[hushed spindle]

no hes literally just new

[jade oasis]

true

[mortal hare]

i would mostly skip spigot tutorial and learn how to read javadoc and seek for info here: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/

[hushed spindle]

if your only goal is to make a quick turnaround command you might as well ask chatgpt

[jade oasis]

i got suggest this video series for spigot development which ive been watching

[hushed spindle]

bad advice tbh

[jade oasis]

last time i did that i was told the coding wasnt even java or anything

[pseudo hazel]

wdym

then ask chatgpt for java plugin code

but

[mortal hare]

chatgpt probably mentioned you Minecraft's bedrock's scripting api which is based off javascript iirc

[hushed spindle]

you might not have asked the right question

[pseudo hazel]

using chatgpt without knowing why its suggesting things is a terrible habit

[jade oasis]

i said in javascript which might have messed it up

[hushed spindle]

:I

might?

[mortal hare]

yeah, javascript scripting is only supported for bedrock version of minecraft

[pseudo hazel]

lmao

java is not javascript

please

[mortal hare]

if you want to develop for Minecraft: Java Edition, you would need to use Java, not JavaScript

[jade oasis]

im stupid i need all the help i can get lol

[pseudo hazel]

they are completely separate

[mortal hare]

JS community really should drop javascript name altogether

and just use Ecmascript

[shadow night]

Real

[mortal hare]

it causes too much confusion among users

[pseudo hazel]

they should just call it webscript or whatever

[shadow night]

NodeScript fr fr

[mortal hare]

makes sense

as we have WebAssembly

why not just call ECMAScript WebScript

sure JS is being used outside the web

but all knows that JS's prioritized on the web

[pseudo hazel]

right tool for the right job kinda thing

(but JS isnt the right tool for any job)

[mortal hare]

i've heard from some influencer that he doesnt call JavaScript ECMAScript mostly because it sounds like a name for skin condition 😄

[shadow night]

"Java is as similar to Javascript as Car is to Carpet"
- Silk, 2021

[pseudo hazel]

but thats what the world got used to

haha thats a great quote

[mortal hare]

might as well be Alladin at this point

[pseudo hazel]

ecmascript sounds like a ligma joke

[hushed spindle]

try asking it "I need a minecraft java spigot plugin with a single feature: a command with 1 optional parameter taking in a player name. i need the command, when executed, to turn the command executor(or player, if given) around by 180 degrees. the command should send an error message back to the command executor if the given player (if any) is invalid. or, if the optional player parameter is omitted, send an error message to the command executor if the command executor is not a player. can you do that for me?"

should be good

[jade oasis]

Kk hold on

[pseudo hazel]

thats literally programming but wihtout the syntax

[shadow night]

Lol

[hushed spindle]

yes thats the point

[mortal hare]

my experience taught me that the longer the sentence, the more hallucinations the AI starts to have

[hushed spindle]

i just tried being as specific as possible

[pseudo hazel]

if they can figure out how to write that kind of text, they can learn to write java code

[hushed spindle]

just let the guy ask the question whats the worst thing that can happen

[pseudo hazel]

yeah

[mortal hare]

i guess

sorry for my 🤓 points

[hushed spindle]

yeah you're a real nerdy nerd bro

[mortal hare]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[jade oasis]

Asked it umm anyone got the pastebin link

[mortal hare]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[hushed spindle]

guh

[jade oasis]

Cheers

[hushed spindle]

lets see what chatgpt cooked up

[jade oasis]

https://paste.md-5.net/raw/abemugodoq

[pseudo hazel]

wait I just got a genius idea

what if you askled chatgpt to make a paste link for it xD

I wonder if its able

probably not

[hushed spindle]

not too bad but it kinda forgot to make this an actual plugin

[pseudo hazel]

alrght now you gotta try and put the code in a plugin

[hushed spindle]

and some method names are wrong

i assume you already have an IDE to program in so you can probably fix these small mistakes yourself

after that you can check if it actually works

it wont, because its turning you around by 360 degrees, lol

[jade oasis]

I do have IDE

[pseudo hazel]

wdym its rotating 360

[hushed spindle]

in turnPlayer its adding or subtracting 360 to your yaw

[pseudo hazel]

yeah after it added 180

[hushed spindle]

oh wait nvm

yeah i read wrong

[pseudo hazel]

the comment says its adding 360 to normalize the yaw

[hushed spindle]

seems fine

[pseudo hazel]

whatever that means

doubt its needed

[hushed spindle]

yeah its probably not necessary

[jade oasis]

So it only needs some editing before testing

[hushed spindle]

yeah prob

i mean this is just the class command

if you still have chatgpt open you can ask "this is a good start, but you've not fully understood my question. i need this to be a plugin as well, so could you modify the given code such that the TurnCommandExecutor also extends JavaPlugin, and register the command in onEnable()?"

in case you dont know how to do that yourself

[mortal hare]

chat gpt cant access the web

although copilot seems it can

but its limited

[jade oasis]

https://paste.md-5.net/ulesakutor.java

[pseudo hazel]

right but can it make pastes

[mortal hare]

it doesnt even have codeblock support, i doubt that it would support pastes

[hushed spindle]

seems good, you just need to register the command "turn" in your plugin.yml now

[pseudo hazel]

yeah true

[hushed spindle]

you can do that yourself

[jade oasis]

Yh

[quaint mantle]

Actually reading the wiki and learning java: ❌
ChatGPT: ✅✅

[acoustic pendant]

Hey, if I create a file during run time (Or load that file) should that be async? Also when retrieving data from a .yml during run time, should that be async?

[quaint mantle]

If file is small then don't do async

[glossy laurel]

Can I fully dress up the dude in the smithing table?

[acoustic pendant]

So i'm creating a file per player to avoid file being really big

So not necessary for it to be async?

[quaint mantle]

Yep

[acoustic pendant]

However, file could be big, (maybe 100-300 lines if the player plays actively)

Does that matter or not?

[quaint mantle]

Well it's few hundred ms for load and configurations are usually cached.

[wide coyote]

retreiving from a yaml config is quite cheap, as long as it is already loaded, bukkit loads the values to a hash map

[acoustic pendant]

I see

[wide coyote]

loading and saving is more expensive and should be done async

[acoustic pendant]

I see

I'll create and load files async then

But retrieving not necessary

[wide coyote]

yeah

[timid berry]

I wrote the code and asked help for it

[barren peak]

in block break event how do you get the item used to break the block

since it could be offhand or mainhand

[elfin socket]

how would the player break a block with their offhand?

[barren peak]

i realised that

also is there a way to modify the itemStack isSimilar method to ignore durability

[elfin socket]

I'm a beginner, but I would recommend either making your own version of that method, or Mixins(I wouldn't recommend this)

[barren peak]

alr

[elfin socket]

or, before comparing, make them both at full durability. that way it doesn't matter what durability it is, it will always be full when checking

[barren peak]

i'll just make my own comparison its easy enough

[elfin socket]

I wish I wasn't banned from PaperMC

I said smth about taxes and got banned, couldnt find any way to appeal

[slender elbow]

appeal link in community guidelines

[elfin socket]

where would that be?

[eternal night]

https://papermc.io/community/guidelines

[elfin socket]

i probably shouldnt be clicking on links as quickly as I just did

[slender elbow]

bro is desperate

[umbral ridge]

emilyy emilyyoss emilios

emilia

[jade oasis]

i do get 2 errors

https://gyazo.com/4783b623b8cd7d97398bdb4791d4439d

[jade oasis]

only got the bottom error now

[fair rock]

player.teleport(player.getLocation().setYaw(newYaw));

Line 57

setYaw returns void, but you need a location

Location rotated = player.getLocation().clone();
rotated.setYaw(newYaw)
player.teleport(rotated);

[jade oasis]

line 57?

[fair rock]

Line 57

Idk if you moved something

[jade oasis]

i didnt use that paste since its within a plugin its like on another class

im using this 1 https://paste.md-5.net/raw/abemugodoq

[fair rock]

        // Set the player's new yaw (turn them around)
        player.teleport(player.getLocation().setYaw(newYaw));

Line 57
setYaw returns void, but you need a location

Location rotated = player.getLocation().clone();
rotated.setYaw(newYaw)
player.teleport(rotated);

As i said

[jade oasis]

am i replacing this with

setYaw returns void, but you need a location

Location rotated = player.getLocation().clone();
rotated.setYaw(newYaw)
player.teleport(rotated);

[hushed spindle]

yeah when you got a guy that clearly has no interest of learning java or spigot and they only care to make a small specific plugin then yeah chatgpt is a fine option

[glossy laurel]

Can I fully dress up the dude ||(armor stand)|| in the smithing table?

[hushed spindle]

doesn't look like it

maybe with nms

but probably not

[glossy laurel]

ic

[jade oasis]

i find it intresting i just believe with issues i cant learn right i wanna try but still believe even after some videos there will be things i still dont understand

[hushed spindle]

because you're not learning java first

learning spigot is not gonna help if you dont know how java works

learning java first will be kinda boring but its required

[jade oasis]

any suggestions where to learn it from

[glossy laurel]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

Codecademy - Learn Java: Interactive Java programming course from basics to more advanced concepts. Perfect for absolute beginners.
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[hushed spindle]

yeah that

[velvet prawn]

hey

[hushed spindle]

no

[velvet prawn]

how i can make a "Elytra Glide without Elytra" with the spigot api?

does somebody know it?

[hushed spindle]

ItemMeta#setGlider(true)

[velvet prawn]

which itemMeta?

[hushed spindle]

any

[velvet prawn]

and then to false again after stop gliding?

[hushed spindle]

any item's item meta can be modified to make it a glider

[velvet prawn]

or instantly to false?

[frosty relic]

        final ServerPlayer serverPlayer = ((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle();
        final Level level = serverPlayer.level();


        final BlockPos fakePos = serverPlayer.blockPosition().above();

        final BlockState signState = Blocks.OAK_SIGN.defaultBlockState();
        level.setBlockAndUpdate(fakePos, signState);
        
        final SignBlockEntity fakeSign = (SignBlockEntity) level.getBlockEntity(fakePos);
        final SignText signText = fakeSign.getFrontText();
        int i = 0;
        for (final String line : withLines) {
            signText.setMessage(i, Component.literal(line));
            i++;
        }
        fakeSign.setText(signText, true);
        fakeSign.setChanged();
        
        serverPlayer.connection.send(new ClientboundBlockUpdatePacket(fakePos, signState));
        serverPlayer.connection.send(new ClientboundOpenSignEditorPacket(fakePos, true));
    }```

Is there something i'm missing? it always open the sign empty, with no lines, only happens in new 1.21

[hushed spindle]

well if you wanna make the item stop behaving like a glider then yea you set it to false

but you dont have to turn it off after the player is done gliding

depends on what you want ig

[velvet prawn]

i want that you can press "F" on the spawn, and then you will be boosted to y + 50, and then the glider should be activated

[hushed spindle]

well there's LivingEntity#setGliding

then you can make an entity glide without them wearing an elytra or gliding item

[velvet prawn]

it doesnt work

        event.setCancelled(true);
        user.getPlayer().setVelocity(new Vector(0, 20, 0));
        user.getPlayer().setGliding(true);

i just get boosted on top

[hushed spindle]

this should be paired with an EntityToggleGlideEvent listener where you cancel the un-gliding of the entity since the server immediately removes the effect

[velvet prawn]

ohh

[worthy yarrow]

public FileManager(NormalDiscGolf normalDiscGolf) {
        this.obstacleFolder = Paths.get(normalDiscGolf.getDataFolder().getPath(), "obstacles");
        try {
            if (Files.notExists(this.obstacleFolder)) {
                Files.createDirectories(this.obstacleFolder);
            }
        } catch (IOException exception) {
            exception.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```

If the obstacleFolder does not exist because the data folder of the plugin doesn't either, would the creation call as a consequence create the data folder as well?

[pseudo hazel]

yes

createDirectories creates all subdirectories up to and including the obstacleFolder starting from your work dir

[worthy yarrow]

It's all of them right?

Ah yes

[pseudo hazel]

yep

[jade oasis]

@hushed spindle do you believe asking chatgpt to make a command log kinda system and have it upload in pastebin or is that too big of a plugin for it to do

[rough drift]

?tas

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee/

[hushed spindle]

no clue i dont work with chatgpt

generally speaking the more you do with chatgpt the worse it gets

[jade oasis]

im using the basic thing you told me to look at to try and learn that stuff but seeing what chatgpt is also able to do but the pastebin stuff has managed to lose me

[chrome beacon]

Pastebin does have a decent api to work with

Though I don't see why you would use it to log commands

[hushed spindle]

its not a good idea no

for your experience level i see no reason to want a logging system

also, you wont learn much using chatgpt

[chrome beacon]

When you use gpt for info you loose out on learning a very important skill

Which is how to find good information and solve problems

[jade oasis]

i was just using it to see what it can make if that makes sense but i am trying the https://www.codecademy.com/courses/learn-java/lessons/hello-world-java/exercises/commenting-code thing so far so good

[quaint mantle]

I was wondering if it is possible to change a weapon's attack damage on 1.8.9?

[hushed spindle]

if attributes dont exist then no

[chrome beacon]

Attributes do exist in 1.8

No idea if it's part of the API or not

Doesn't look like it

You will need NMS

[frigid falcon]

Hey, I was just wondering I'm currently trying to develop some sort of one time elytra plugin. the problem im facing is that a few years ago I believe i was using the PlayerToggleFlightEvent, but now it doesnt trigger when no elytra is equipped. Is there any equivalent event?

[orchid gazelle]

answer @frigid falcon , bro's really down bad rn

[chrome beacon]

You want it to trigger on equip or when they start to fly?

[pseudo hazel]

im guessing there is no actual elytra?

[orchid gazelle]

^

[pseudo hazel]

otherwise idk why teh fact that you need an elytra now is an issue

[frigid falcon]

I want the event to trigger when trying the players try to start flying but doesn't have an elytra

[orchid gazelle]

bro wants an event to trigger a gliding state without having an elytra equipped

[frigid falcon]

Yesss

[chrome beacon]

Client won't like that

[orchid gazelle]

[frigid falcon]

Why? I've never faced a problem with the gliding state without elytra

[orchid gazelle]

we were having the discussion if that ever was a thing and I told him no

if anything, you'd probably need a custom event for double-jumps and then somehow force a gliding state

[pseudo hazel]

its probably a side effect of some optimization or something

or it was assumed that its a bug that has now been fixed

i.e. there is 0 reason for the toggleflight event to be called when you dont wear an elytra

[frigid falcon]

Hmm do you know any other way to achieve what I wanted

[pseudo hazel]

not sure

idk the exact conditions of your plugin

maybe you can detect a jump and see if they are already in the air?

idk what version you have

[frigid falcon]

Hmm could be a way

[pseudo hazel]

latest should have the input events

[frigid falcon]

1.21.3

[pseudo hazel]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInputEvent.html

[orchid gazelle]

does client send a JumpPacket if you are already in air?

[pseudo hazel]

but like idk when these events exactly get called

yeah thats something you have to try

[chrome beacon]

The toggle flight event only gets triggered when the player can fly

I do not remember a version where that hasn't been the case

Plugins doing double jumps for example would enable player flight and then listen for the event

[frigid falcon]

Ahhh I think thats what I'm missing

Ahh I can remember my old code

Thank you very much

[frosty relic]

im sending the PacketPlayOutOpenSignEditor packet to a player, but the sign UI immediately closes once opened, anyone know why?

try {
    Constructor<?> blockPosConst = PacketUtil.getClassNMS("BlockPosition").getConstructor(double.class, double.class, double.class);
    Object blockPos = blockPosConst.newInstance(player.getLocation().getX(), player.getLocation().getY(), player.getLocation().getZ());

    Constructor<?> packetConst = PacketUtil.getClassNMS("PacketPlayOutOpenSignEditor").getConstructor(Objects.requireNonNull(PacketUtil.getClassNMS("BlockPosition")));
    Object packet = packetConst.newInstance(blockPos);
    PacketUtil.sendPacket(player, packet);
} catch (NoSuchMethodException | IllegalAccessException | InvocationTargetException | InstantiationException e) {
    e.printStackTrace();
}```