help-development

[young knoll]

Wait

[ivory sleet]

but kat

[blazing ocean]

if your users cannot load mods that won't be possible

[young knoll]

How did we go from running spigot on the client

[ivory sleet]

dont u already get that with finite double/float precision?

[chrome beacon]

You can make an installer for them

[young knoll]

To making a new game

[chrome beacon]

That installs the mods

[quaint mantle]

i will

[ivory sleet]

or ru looking for even more deviation?

[chrome beacon]

Just wrap PrismLauncher and their CLI or smth

[blazing ocean]

this will be more painful than it sounds btw

you need to account for like every launcher

[quaint mantle]

I don't want them to enter the server without logging in with my client.

[worthy yarrow]

I was literally just typing this out lol

[chrome beacon]

Just account for the vanilla one

[quaint mantle]

In this way, I can prevent cheats a little bit.

[chrome beacon]

If they know about 3rd party ones they know how to install mods

[blazing ocean]

i don't have it installed so am i fucked? probably

if the mods aren't publicly downloadable

[chrome beacon]

and then you can just put a pack on CurseForge or Modrinth

[worthy yarrow]

I'm going for a realistic feel when it comes to the disc throwing, lotta factors play into this though

[ivory sleet]

u got like a streamable or sth to showcase what u've finished thus far?

[chrome beacon]

Then you make them

[worthy yarrow]

I can grab a clip hold on

[chrome beacon]

There's 0 reason for them not to be

[ivory sleet]

or screenshare

w/e u prefer

[quaint mantle]

can i work spigot server with mods?

[worthy yarrow]

sure

[blazing ocean]

no

[chrome beacon]

yes but what you want to do is on the client

so Spigot doesn't matter there

[blazing ocean]

i did want to make my own launcher for mc events like mcc but never got around to it

[quaint mantle]

I can use items etc. in menus etc.

[chrome beacon]

Custom items would need to be on both client and server

[quaint mantle]

Likewise, I can use a creature I added in my plugins.

[chrome beacon]

There are Hybrid implementations available, I don't recommend using them though

You're better off not using plugins

[quaint mantle]

So should I do things with mods that plugins can do?

[chrome beacon]

yes

[quaint mantle]

Would it be easier than plugins?

i mean developing

[chrome beacon]

eh depends on your knowledge

Somethings are easier

others are not

[blazing ocean]

mods are generally harder / more complicated than plugins

[quaint mantle]

mods are generally harder / more complicated than plugins

[ivory sleet]

good bye

[quaint mantle]

I was wondering about this
*

[blazing ocean]

good hi

[quaint mantle]

okey i will use plugins

[blazing ocean]

that's what i just said

[quaint mantle]

but i need add some blocks like furniture

[quaint mantle]

ik?

[blazing ocean]

it sounds like what you want is a modded client and server

[quaint mantle]

i will add blocks such as furniture, i have to use them in my plugins so that they do not break in the lobby, etc.

[blazing ocean]

add custom blocks
use them in my plugins
that will not be working

[quaint mantle]

but i was used

worldguard doing this

[blazing ocean]

worldguard only works with spigot and you most likely wanna do a modded server and client

[quaint mantle]

i wrote the id i wrote somewhere in the config file.

and the modded block not breaking

[blazing ocean]

wha

[quaint mantle]

i launch my server with mods

and i was using anotherfurniture mod

and worldguard was preventing them from breaking

[blazing ocean]

worldguard is spigot only.

[quaint mantle]

so y r saying it can't be?

[kind hatch]

Cause mods != plugins

Link us to the “mod” you are using.

[quaint mantle]

well forget all my questions

or not

wait

[brazen badge]

i've created the recipes and registered it, but i doesn't work with no error

[quaint mantle]

event-handling:
    block-entity-spawns-with-untraceable-cause: false
    interaction-whitelist: []
    emit-block-use-at-feet: []
    ignore-hopper-item-move-events: false
    break-hoppers-on-denied-move: true```

this is worldguard config

and this is anotherfurniture mod

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/another-furniture

can i send links like this?

nvm i used them

both

[kind hatch]

Yes, relevant links are fine

[quaint mantle]

worldguard is protected

anotherfurniture blocks

btw

[kind hatch]

Link to where you got worldguard?

[quaint mantle]

idk but

from spigot

or craftbukkit

[quaint mantle]

btw i add another furniture block to intreaction-whitelist (i mean add block id)

and worked

[kind hatch]

Did you register the recipe?

[quaint mantle]

like this

[brazen badge]

recipes are in the list

so the list isn't empty

[sullen marlin]

what is the IS ingredient

[quaint mantle]

    block-entity-spawns-with-untraceable-cause: false
    interaction-whitelist:
    - anotherfurniture:oak_table```

[young knoll]

You add it to something named recipes

But that loop uses something named itemsShapedRecipes

[chrome beacon]

What you put there depends entierly on the hybrid you use

[brazen badge]

it's a list

[chrome beacon]

You should ask them

[brazen badge]

an item from oraxen

[chrome beacon]

Why not use the Oraxen recipe API

[brazen badge]

because I need also SmithingRecipe and Oraxen recipe API doesn't have that

[chrome beacon]

ah ok

[quaint mantle]

can i force players to enter my server only with my client by coding any plugin?

[slender elbow]

are you owner?

[blazing ocean]

you can make a mod that does that

[chrome beacon]

Modloaders will already take care of that for you

[quaint mantle]

well, didn't you say that i can't run my server with mods?

[blazing ocean]

your server has no say over what server the client connects to lmao

[chrome beacon]

I've never said that

If you want to add modded items and such you should run a modded server

[blazing ocean]

and also @quaint mantle crossposting in paper does not make it better

[chrome beacon]

Just don't run a hybrid

[quaint mantle]

wdym for run hybrid?

omg

im confused

[chrome beacon]

Run a modded server

Don't use plugins.

[quaint mantle]

ah

well, what if the mod i made is client side and i use the plugins?

[young knoll]

You’ll never be able to stop someone determined from joining with whatever hacks they want

[chrome beacon]

You can do that, but it's much harder

[quaint mantle]

do mods work more effectively than plugins?

[chrome beacon]

When you make mods you have easier control of server internals

[nova quail]

Hello! I made custom enchant and I want to do compatible with other enchants. So pickaxe can have my enchant and efficiency 5. I have made a event that works but I have a problem that my custom enchant removes after adding another enchant. So if I add first efficiency 5 then my enchant all works, and if I add miner 2 and then efficiency 5 it don't work. What could be the problem?
My code: https://paste.md-5.net/amijirarub.java

[quaint mantle]

https://imgur.com/XIAesBwDo you think this will happen on the client side?

i mean item things look like this

example hands

[chrome beacon]

That link doesn't work

[quaint mantle]

wth

https://imgur.com/XIAesBw

[chrome beacon]

You can do that if you want

[quaint mantle]

on clientside?

[chrome beacon]

yeah

[quaint mantle]

aight ty

[velvet ember]

anyone know why this pom.xml isnt working?

I get core successfully, but the other artifacts dont get added to my external libraries

as far as i understand, im using the right artifact ids too

it also shows up in my maven dependencies, its just unusable

nevermind, i fixed it by invalidating my caches and restarting

[tender shard]

that's called the "squidward solution" and it works in almost 70% of cases

[nova quail]

Can someone help please. Why my enchant keeps removing even if I copy first and second enchants?

[unique shuttle]

Hello! I'm trying to cancel when the Warden targets a player, but I don't know which event to use. I tried EntityTargetLivingEntityEvent and EntityTargetEvent, but neither seems to be called. Does anyone know which one I should use? Thanks!

[kind hatch]

ItemMeta overrides all info on the ItemStack, so just move your enchantment actions after you set what you want on the item meta.

[grim hound]

the hell

why is that?

[nova quail]

Moved everyting after resultItem.setItemMeta but still the same problem

[kind hatch]

Show code

[nova quail]

https://paste.md-5.net/vofahipiri.cs for some way it says that efficiency 5 book don't have any enchants. Without this check it also don't work.

[fair rock]

So

Item (with effi 5) + miner 2 (books?) Works

Item (with miner 2) + effi 5 (book?) = only effi 5?

[nova quail]

Yep, so If I add first efficiency 5 and then miner 2 all works. But if I add first miner 2 and then efficiency 5 it don't work

So it removes on adding new enchant

[fair rock]

Sout 9 was printed? So you enchantment got recognized?

[nova quail]

Yeah

In both ways 9 is printing

But enchant don't saves

Just tried again now only miner 2 saves and new added encants removes

Maybe edited something before but the problem is the same

[fair rock]

Wanna try meta.addEnchantment? Would be interesting idk

[kind hatch]

Only thing I can think to try too. lol

[nova quail]

nope

[fair rock]

All my input now is stupid because of too less brain power at 2am👀

[nova quail]

So as I see it removes the last which I am adding after I added miner enchant

Don't understand why

[fair rock]

Did you specify something in your custom enchantment?

[nova quail]

you mean this: https://paste.md-5.net/ruferizixi.java?

[kind hatch]

If this is an ordering issue, then you either need to force the item order, or make extra checks for the different ways items can be ordered.

[nova quail]

This happens only to the last added enchant

So the other enchants work great

[grim hound]

Is there any way to have all players experience the same FOV, no matter their fov setting?

[young knoll]

I don’t think so

Even if you apply effects that change the fov those can be disabled in accessibility settings

[grim hound]

My main issue is that I don't have the client-side fov

So I can't even calculate how much I should zoom in

Or out

[grim hound]

(cuz the client doesn't send it)

[young knoll]

Yeah that’s another issue

[grim hound]

That's the only issue

[young knoll]

.

[grim hound]

Wait, what about spectating an entity?

[young knoll]

I don’t think that overrides fov settings

[grim hound]

I think then the fov doesn't matter

[young knoll]

Could be wrong

[grim hound]

Decently sure it's just "normal" here

[grim hound]

When was entity spectating added?

[young knoll]

Idk whenever spectator mode was added

[grim hound]

1.8

But was spectating entities added alongside with it?

[young knoll]

Yeah afaik

Why don’t you

?tas

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee/

[grim hound]

How?

Oh I guess

Clicking

Nice

[young knoll]

… launch 1.8 and click an entity in spectator mode?

[grim hound]

Going to sleep

Thnx for help

Gn

[wet breach]

Was added in 14w05 which is just after 1.8. Was in official release of 1.8.2 pre1

And then there was 1.9 right after that

[quartz goblet]

I haven't developed in awhile, whats the deal with new particles, potioneffect, and sound? Is there a breakdown of the changes made?

eventPriority, etc

[unique shuttle]

bump

[merry cove]

You didn't forget to register events? try adding some loggers.

[unique shuttle]

I have several events in that class, and they all work fine. Even with zombies or other mobs, the event works perfectly, but not with the warden. I tested it on both Spigot and Paper, and the same thing happens

[merry cove]

can you show the code

[unique shuttle]

It doesn't make sense to show it. It's simply an EntityTargetLivingEntityEvent, and that's it. With a zombie or any other mob, the event is called, but with the warden, it isn't

[merry cove]

It makes sense, but you do you. try

    @EventHandler
    public void onAttacked(EntityDamageByEntityEvent event) {
        this.plugin.getLogger().info("[EntityDamageByEntityEvent] has fired");
        if(event.getEntity() instanceof Player
                && event.getDamager().getType() == EntityType.WARDEN) {
            this.plugin.getLogger().info("A player was attacked by a 'Warden' setting the damage to 0.");
            event.setDamage(0);
        }
    }``` did that in a spigot project, so might have to adapt idk.

[unique shuttle]

You're confusing the event. The damage event works, it's just the EntityTargetEvent / EntityTargetLivingEntityEvent

[merry cove]

Ok, but it does fix your issue though ~ but if you want to know why the event won't fire you need to debug your own project... cause the event works fine for me.

[winged compass]

yo im looking for a plugin dev

the job is paid but does require a bit

of work

[compact haven]

mm can message me but need more details

https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/hiring-developers.55/ too @winged compass

[buoyant viper]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[barren gust]

hiii

[grim hound]

Ah, thanks

[lost matrix]

Does someone have utility to apply default attributes to ItemStacks?

[young knoll]

There’s Material#getDefaultAttributeModifiers

You can then just apply all of those

[lost matrix]

Nice, thx

[grim hound]

fov still matters

damn

[grim hound]

Does anyone know of a way to have players experience the same FOV?

[eternal oxide]

FOV is a client side setting. The server can not dictate it as players have different setups and monitors. The same setting may look different for different players

[sinful kiln]

Is there a way to trigger a soundwave signal for skulk sensors using the bukkit api?

[blazing ocean]

you can use a core shader

[grim hound]

cuz the difference of Quake Pro

and Normal FOV is just way too big

[grim hound]

is that a clientside modification?

[blazing ocean]

it's in a resourcepack

[grim hound]

oh, can I do it with a resourcepack?

[eternal oxide]

don't adjust the FOV, adjust the distance/placing of your particles/displays

[blazing ocean]

keep in mind that you'll have to make a lot of variants of the shader if you wanna support multiple versions

[blazing ocean]

that's what i just said

[blazing ocean]

^^ tho

[upper hazel]

I have a problem with api that I can't talk about fully for some reasons, but I will try to give you the gist of it.

The problem concerns general processes that affect the whole plugin build. When using an api, a developer can create a process which, for example, by his negligence will return null and then an exception will be thrown and absolutely all plugins using this api will fail. I thought about using error messages instead of exceptions, but I would like to know what else can be done.

[eternal oxide]

Exceptions should not be used for flow control. Detect null when needed

[brazen badge]

i'm creating a smithing recipe but I have a problem.

Item ItemStack: https://paste.md-5.net/jexawumavu.cs

result PDC(s): []

Can anyone help me to understand why the result item it's different?

[glossy laurel]

Can I make the tab completer make the command field red like with vanilla commands?

[eternal oxide]

no

[eternal oxide]

?nocode

[undone axle]

It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.

[eternal oxide]

Pretty sure a crafting recipe will not transfer a PDC when crafted

in the event apply the PDC

[brazen badge]

https://paste.md-5.net/dolekitobo.php

[brazen badge]

yeah but it's not only PDC. there are no attributes, no texture, no name, no lore

[eternal oxide]

sounds like you are matching the default recipe

[glossy laurel]

Could it be it only copies the material and enchantments?

[eternal oxide]

likely

[brazen badge]

so I need to call PrepareSmithingEvent and set the result?

[upper hazel]

There is one more problem how to make to listen to the event when all plugins are loaded and the most recent plugin that is loaded realized it and started a certain process

[grim hound]

and, how am I supposed to know how much I should adjust?

[eternal oxide]

You adjust so it visible correctly with a default FOV

pretty much no one is going to have a smaller FOV than default

[grim hound]

then it looks terrible with quake pro

barely visible

[eternal oxide]

who the heck uses quake pro

[grim hound]

Me

and

many others

[glossy laurel]

Me

[grim hound]

who the hell uses normal fov?

[eternal oxide]

me

[glossy laurel]

This

[grim hound]

🤝

[grim hound]

so is that something I can do in a normal texture pack - that is - make it a server resource pack?

[blazing ocean]

what

[brazen badge]

?

[grim hound]

I don't think you don't know what a server resource pack is

[blazing ocean]

?

[grim hound]

fuckin keyboard

[blazing ocean]

"that is - make it a server resource pack" what does that mean 😭

[grim hound]

send a packet

and they download it

from the server

[blazing ocean]

there's api for that

[grim hound]

I do 99% of stuff with packets

[blazing ocean]

you are aware that you need an http server hosting it somewhere

[grim hound]

really convenient

[grim hound]

just a download link

many places for that

[blazing ocean]

"really convenient" "packets" 💀

[grim hound]

thinking of either mediafire or github

[grim hound]

typical non-packet user when he hears about packets

[blazing ocean]

have the mc server host it

[blazing ocean]

???

[grim hound]

?

[blazing ocean]

packets are NOT convenient

[shadow night]

That requires two ports tho

[blazing ocean]

yeah...

[grim hound]

you can make em convenient

[shadow night]

That is quite problematic in a ton of enviroments

[grim hound]

solve things not possible in the api

[blazing ocean]

by... building an api over the packet?

don't think anyones ever done that before

[eternal oxide]

You can not get the Players FOV so the best you can achieve is a middle of the road implementation

[grim hound]

I'm really not willing to say more since you aren't willing to budge

[blazing ocean]

lol

[grim hound]

worse than talking to a stone wall

[blazing ocean]

how nice of you

[grim hound]

you should at the very least be able to accept critique

[grim hound]

so texture pack it is

[blazing ocean]

just so you know, you are mostly on your own with shaders

there is like zero documentation

[grim hound]

by shaders

you mean optifine shaders?

[blazing ocean]

no

core shaders

[sinful kiln]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Resource_pack#Shaders

[blazing ocean]

there's also probably only like 4 people in here who actually know what they're doing with shaders

[sinful kiln]

You can displace the particles / entities / blocks using those shaders

[blazing ocean]

this is what happens when you ask chatgpt about modern stuff

[grim hound]

shader mastermind spotted

[sinful kiln]

Nope

[grim hound]

how modern is that?

1.17

nice

but I can install a core shader in a client from a server with a packet, right?

[eternal oxide]

resource pack

[grim hound]

so core shaders are a part of those?

[blazing ocean]

yes

[eternal oxide]

you are diving into a whole lot of hurt messing with shaders

[quaint mantle]

can i check if player click advancements menu?

[blazing ocean]

yup

it's possible, but definitely not fun nor easy

[grim hound]

what kind of language is this?

[eternal oxide]

shaders. fragment and vertex

lots of math

you need minecraft specific shaders

the fields passed to the shaders are minecraft specific

[blazing ocean]

glsl

and using chatgpt for shaders is a recipe for disaster

[quaint mantle]

can i check open minecraft advancement menu with any event?

[grizzled cedar]

Hello guys someone knows how to handle OnPacketSending event in NMS?

[chrome beacon]

Use PacketEvents or ProtocolLib

[lofty badge]

guys, help
i trying make npc for my own minecraft server for world selection, but i have some problems in my code:

how i can make npc look at nearest player and disable head shaking animation?

        Location location = new Location(Bukkit.getWorld("hub"), x, y, z);
        Villager villager = (Villager) Bukkit.getWorld("hub").spawnEntity(location, EntityType.VILLAGER);
        villager.setCustomName(ChatColor.GREEN + customName);
        villager.setCustomNameVisible(true);
        villager.setAI(false);
        villager.setInvulnerable(true);
        villager.setSilent(true);
        villager.getPersistentDataContainer().set(new NamespacedKey(this, "menuType"), PersistentDataType.STRING, type);
    }```

[chrome beacon]

When spawning and modifying an entity you should use the spawn method that accepts a consumer

The villager should already look at the player from time to time

If that isn't enough you might need to tweak the AI Goals with NMS

[lofty badge]

i got smth like this, but now i need disable head shaking animation

[chrome beacon]

Canceling the interact event should work

[alpine urchin]

GLSL

[fading beacon]

Hi

[alpine urchin]

the language typically used in writing shaders, essentially programming on the graphics card

[fading beacon]

Im trying to sent a sound effect to play for every player everytime someone dies
But theres a small issue:
If the sound plays and i face in an opposite direction, it fades away horribly

Is there a way to go around this?

[eternal oxide]

are you using world.playsound or player?

[fading beacon]

player.playsound

should i use world.playsound? @eternal oxide

[river oracle]

Depends

Play.playSound only plays to the player

World broadcasts it to everyone near that location

[eternal oxide]

slight confusing part, volume is not the actual volume of the sound to play. Its the distance the sound will fall off at

[fading beacon]

So

If i do world.playsound

And set an absurd volume

Will that help?

[river oracle]

It's capped between 0.0 and 1.0

[fading beacon]

Ohh

I tried to play

Player.playsound

At like

10k volume

[river oracle]

Yeah that won't do anything

[fading beacon]

But it still fades away

[river oracle]

The actual volume is client side for obvious reasons

[fading beacon]

I need to fix this so bad

Its like the only issue in the whole thing

WAIT

What about MinVolume?

[river oracle]

Volume is clamped between 0.0 and 1.0

All other controls are client side for obvious safety reasons

[fading beacon]

How much is 1.0

[river oracle]

Furthest range

Idk I'd have to look at internals

Probably client code

[fading beacon]

Im good with 100 block radius

[eternal oxide]

what sound are you trying to play?

[fading beacon]

Blaze death at pitch 0

It plays when someone dies

But only for a few seconds

[eternal oxide]

does it really matter if it is quieter when the player turns around?

[fading beacon]

Yes

I want it to be loud everywhere you look

[eternal oxide]

your only real choice then is to play it to each player individually

[fading beacon]

Yea yeah

Thats how the plugin works

[eternal oxide]

with a full volume it should play correctly and follow the player if they move

[fading beacon]

My current parameters for volume are
Volume: 100
Pitch: 0

But i havent tried minvolume

[fading beacon]

In these settings the issue still persists

[eternal oxide]

if Player#playSound is used it should follow the player, World#playSound plays at a specific location.

a player playSound should not go quiet if they turn around

[fading beacon]

You mean player.playsound?

[eternal oxide]

unless the sound is played from a resource pack and is not a mono audio file

[fading beacon]

I cant send media herw

I have a screenshot of the code

[eternal oxide]

?img

[undone axle]

Can't send images? That's because you're not verified! Use !verify to complete verification.
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[fading beacon]

!verify

[undone axle]

Usage: !verify <forums username>

[fading beacon]

@eternal oxide

[eternal oxide]

so this is a resource pack sound?

[fading beacon]

Theres 2 sounds

The vanilla blaze death goes first

Then rada final

But both fade away after i look away

[eternal oxide]

odd

[fading beacon]

Im gonna try to add MinVolume

[wind gull]

https://paste.helpch.at/pakepawani.kotlin
'sh' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
trying to compile 1.12.2 on a windows machine for maven repo

[chrome beacon]

well that's odd

Try running it again in an empty folder

[wind gull]

works now, i had an old version of portable git when i first used the buildtools

[inland hemlock]

Is there a way to naturally change the killer in an EntityDeathEvent? Trying to make a particle gun without a projectile. I don't want to just change the death message and fake a killed by player x, I want minecraft to think he got killed by it, but is that possible? (Reason is, I want my plugin to be compatible with others, and if I'd make a custom death message such as (xy got killed b xz), it wouldn't be..)

[quaint mantle]

can i make per world datapack?
i have multiworld plugin
when i add my datapack to multiworld's world
doesnt working
only working default bukkit world

[worthy yarrow]

I mean you could just make your messages configurable in some config file or something, otherwise I think you'd have to invoke your own event given the deathEvent would have already been given it's killer, cause, etc

[quaint mantle]

can i set player oxygen when moving land?

[tulip patrol]

what

[quaint mantle]

yep?

i wanna decrease player oxygen

when walking land

not only for water

is this possible?

[worthy yarrow]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/attribute/Attribute.html#GENERIC_OXYGEN_BONUS

Maybe you can mess with the attribute, not sure if the player has this one but I would assume so

[quaint mantle]

this not work for me

[worthy yarrow]

Why

[tulip patrol]

You could make a running timer that could lower the remaining air a certain amount every tick?

[worthy yarrow]

outdated I assume

[quaint mantle]

#setRemainingAir

what u think for this method?

    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerAdvancementDone(PlayerMoveEvent e) {
        e.getPlayer().setRemainingAir(1);
    }```

[tulip patrol]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/LivingEntity.html#setRemainingAir(int)

[quaint mantle]

this not work for me

brb

[worthy yarrow]

You're literally using it

What do you mean it doesn't work for you

[worthy yarrow]

this is terrible btw

Every time a player moves their oxygen will be set to 1 tick not what I think you want lol

[tulip patrol]

yeah thats why I was saying a timer, lol! I just started doing this again though so I need to figure this crap out again lmao

or I guess it would be a Runnable

[worthy yarrow]

Basically same thing

tomato tomatoe

[tulip patrol]

havent really dabbled in Java since like 2014 lol

[worthy yarrow]

Use j21 now kek

It's pretty fun

spigot benchmarked j21 uh

1.20.4 iirc

one of the 1.20.x

[tulip patrol]

I don't know your experience level, but if you want to critique or give me some advice, feel free. I'm working on a command (doing everything from scratch so not perfect)

[worthy yarrow]

Not gonna read it cuz I bet you're not using a command framework

[tulip patrol]

nah

[worthy yarrow]

Don't reinvent the wheel kek, couple good libs for command framework

[tulip patrol]

Not sure what you mean by that xD I'm really just using the built-in parts and running the arguments lol

[worthy yarrow]

I cannot for the life of me find the link

[worthy yarrow]

Well another thing you could do is just use the command map for direct registration of commands

removes the need to put them in your plugin.yml

[tulip patrol]

Well here's a question then, I can get over the command part but I want to avoid using Static as much as I possibly can but cant remember for the life of me

I have all these "managers", which I want accessible from everywhere

[worthy yarrow]

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[tulip patrol]

So essentially they're just utility classes, but they just contain Map/HashMap for available data.

[worthy yarrow]

Util classes should never hold what you'd call state

If it's a manager class, just use di

Otherwise for stateless operations such as like math calcs or wtv, those are fine as static methods

[tulip patrol]

This was my impression from what I remembered, I just couldnt remember how I pass over the information to avoid using statics for stored data essentially.

[worthy yarrow]

yup di

You've got the manager instance, pass that around, and use it as you need

[tulip patrol]

Yeah I just wanted to get it all settled before I really get deeper into the development of this project, lol.

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah no worries, I know that cafebabe has some good links

(the bot)

#bot-commands and check the commands

[tulip patrol]

aight

yeah I'm just working on Property claims right now basically (not trying to use WG or other associated plugins)

[worthy yarrow]

I hope that's just for practice lol no reason not to use wg

[tulip patrol]

I have it this way just because of the end goal

Territory / TerritoryManager -> Property / PropertyManager lol

Territory = ChunkData basically / Property is just like more specific data

but then falls into Town / Nation

sort of developing it my own way because of all the different aspects

not specifically just for protection alone

if that makes sense to you lol

[worthy yarrow]

Sure but I mean you could use wg for the region stuff and then just do whatever you want with those regions whether it be permission aspects for protection or whatever, wg just makes it easier

seeing as wg already comes with certain flags and what not though I would say it's easier anyway to just use wg, that's not to say you can't manipulate it in a way that suits your use case better

[tulip patrol]

I'll probably look into it, I just don't want to really rely on dependencies so much lol

Just because I want this to function as a standalone basically.

end-goal is to make this kind of work similar to that game Eco (but with more of a PVP Aspect)

[worthy yarrow]

You could always just add the lib to the project so it compiles with it rather than shading/normal dependency stuff

[quaint mantle]

i'm not doing anything with this, I did it just to test it?

LOL

[worthy yarrow]

No shame in "relying" on depends tho, why reinvent the wheel simply because "I don't want to have so many depends"

[worthy yarrow]

ok?

[tulip patrol]

tbh part of it is also because I dont want to learn APIs for other stuff lol

[worthy yarrow]

Still kinda terrible for testing imo but sure

[worthy yarrow]

More knowledge is more knowledge mane

[tulip patrol]

I don't have a lot of time to do work, lol.

Just because I'm always working xD

[worthy yarrow]

fair enough anyway I gotta head outa here gl with the project man

[tulip patrol]

Although I am gonna get into ProtocolLib for sure

ty, gl to you too

[tulip patrol]

It's just what you gave at face value, lol.

[quaint mantle]

wdym?

[tulip patrol]

It's just the information you gave, lol. If you're gonna test it differently then thats fine, lol.

[upper hazel]

who knows how to make a mob move in the direction the player is going? It doesn’t matter what kind of mob it is, absolutely any

need protocol lib?

[tulip patrol]

It's been awhile but I think NMS changing its AI basically.

So if you can use ProtocolLib to work with the pathfinding then thats one option.

[lethal onyx]

    private PacketPlayOutChat packet;

    public ActionBar(String text) {
        PacketPlayOutChat packet = new PacketPlayOutChat(ChatSerializer.a("{\"text\":\"" + text + "\"}"), (byte) 2);
        this.packet = packet;
    }

    public void sendToPlayer(Player p) {
        ((CraftPlayer)p).getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(packet);
    }

    public void sendToAll() {
        for (Player p : Bukkit.getServer().getOnlinePlayers()) {
            ((CraftPlayer)p).getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(packet);;
        }
    }



@EventHandler
    public void onPlayerJoin(PlayerJoinEvent e) {
        Player p = e.getPlayer();
        ActionBar actionBar = new ActionBar(CC.translate(ConfigFile.getConfig().getString("ACTIONBAR")));
        actionBar.sendToPlayer(p);
    }
}```

how do i make this message to stay and not to go away

[chrome beacon]

You keep sending it

multiple times

over multiple ticks

[junior cradle]

Friends who do not need discount telegram bots or perhaps plugins or sites can be made for a reasonable price, I will be honest, I am collecting for a new video card that I dream of, I am not enough, so I am looking for buyers

[torn shuttle]

I'm going to start going REEE with this one

[lethal onyx]

would this work?

[torn shuttle]

that image definitely should not happen

and I can't even think of a good way of debugging this

[chrome beacon]

That doesn't do anything

All you did was create a variable

[lethal onyx]

ye nvm

[lilac dagger]

is that eclipse?

[upper hazel]

i was read and i gess protocolLib not give me create new entity with classic logic

[tulip patrol]

I don't really have a great answer because I havent done it for years, but I remember before when I did it, I used NMS.

and I don't usually recommend using NMS unless you know what you're doing and want your plugin to break on every update.

[quiet ice]

keep in mind that even eclipse will warn about unused vars. Judging by the syntax highlighting that is firmly IJ though.

[upper hazel]

well heheh i need create something hard

[lethal onyx]

its intellij

[lilac dagger]

i haven't seen this color style in intellij

[lethal onyx]

its a theme that im using

[lilac dagger]

this is how mine look like lol

[lethal onyx]

u can get them here:
https://plugins.jetbrains.com/search?excludeTags=internal&tags=Theme

theres plenty of them

[lilac dagger]

i see

[upper hazel]

I have a mob from a mod and I need to somehow change its logic and take the horse functionality and put it there

i try create custom horse usage custom mob

[lilac dagger]

do you have an api to this mod?

[upper hazel]

no💀

and you know what

[lilac dagger]

what's the name of this mod

[upper hazel]

this mob has its own letter identifier and pig logic

[upper hazel]

sec

this castom mod💀

bruh

all entity has move logic right?

so i can somehow change

?

or i need use ai

idk

change path logic

[lilac dagger]

it is not exposed, you either need a library that gives it to you or you need to use nms

[upper hazel]

so i can succeed with mobs flying or controlling them?

[lilac dagger]

i think so

tho the dragon is a bit more complicated as far as i know

if you mean to make mobs fly, you can achieve this pretty much from bukkit

just send a direction vector to a mob and they'll fly however you want them to

[upper hazel]

hm

i can just change entity path ?

i mean say him "move"

and he will move?

with bukkit

[lilac dagger]

no

you need nms for that

[upper hazel]

how i see this Mob class analog

in mod forge

enttiy extend Mob

[lilac dagger]

wdym by class analog?

in nms it's either EntitySentiant(i think md5 mapping) or Mob(i think is mojang name)

that has the look controller move controller

and the jump controller

[upper hazel]

i mean in bukkit if i will get by id this will be Mob class

not Entity

[tulip patrol]

wouldn't it be more like public class EliteZombie extends EntityZombie

just an example, like you're extending the actual base entity you're trying to extend and go off of

[upper hazel]

hm

[kind hatch]

Player#sendTitle()
No need for NMS when you can control all the timings with the API.

[blazing ocean]

That's titles, not actionbars

But @lethal onyx You can player.spigot().sendMessage(ChatType.ACTION_BAR, ...) or something similar

[kind hatch]

Oh, woops

But yea, player.spigot().sendMessage() should get the job done.

Will still have to have a runnable to keep it active though.

Cause we don't have control over actionbar timings sadly.

[blazing ocean]

Actionbars are just system messages with overlay set to true

[brazen badge]

is there a way, with protocol lib, to disable the sound of footsteps?

[rotund ravine]

Yes

[lime hare]

pls help me in setup of essential chat

i have installed it on server but its not working

[brazen badge]

PacketType.Play.Server.NAMED_SOUND_EFFECT is the protocol?

[wet breach]

yeah, its like 10 or so entities put together to make one

[lime hare]

pls help me

EssentialsX-2.21.0-dev+24-0af4436 i need this version essential chat

[chrome beacon]

why that specific one

also don't post in multiple channels...

[slate siren]

Hey guys, I'm coding a guild plugin and I encountered a problem, there is a suffix tag in the plugin, and this tab makes the tag visible, but I also use a plugin called TAB These two plugins conflict and my tag is not visible, what do you suggest about this?

[echo basalt]

TIL that PlayerStatisticIncrementEvent doesn't fire for certain statistics

nothing a little NMS couldn't fix >:)

muahahahaha

[chrome beacon]

🔫

[pseudo hazel]

iirc it mostly doesnt fire for stats that happen very often

like players moving

[echo basalt]

I'm specifically interested in the playtime one

[proud badge]

If a spigot plugin specifies API version 1.20.4 in the build.gradle, but doesn't use any of the newer API, will it work on older versions?

[echo basalt]

It'll throw errors

Just set it to 1.13 and move on

[brazen badge]

https://paste.md-5.net/xijeluvuha.cs

i'm using this, but the step sound is null, why?

[22:21:58 INFO]: null
[22:21:58 INFO]: null
[22:21:58 INFO]: null
[22:21:59 INFO]: null
[22:21:59 INFO]: null
[22:21:59 INFO]: null
[22:22:00 INFO]: null
[22:22:00 INFO]: null
[22:22:00 INFO]: null
[22:22:00 INFO]: null

[proud badge]

damn does 1.13 not have PDC?

[unique shuttle]

This is the code. It gets called with any other mob, but the only one that doesn't call it is the Warden for some reason

[proud badge]

ok 1.14 does

[tulip patrol]

Anyone have a good library suggestion for MySQL?

[proud badge]

doesn't java have a default one? with java.sql classes like DriverManager and Connection

[echo basalt]

it's ass

[tulip patrol]

Well yeah, I just figured I'd ask if anyone has a preference besides that one.

[echo basalt]

If you're using kotlin I'm a fan of Jetbrains Exposed

shame it's kotlin-only

[tulip patrol]

About to start database integration in my plugin and wanted peoples opinions on all that, lol.

[echo basalt]

Hibernate is whatever

Quite overkill for a minecraft plugin

[tulip patrol]

Ah no I'm not using kotlin

[hazy parrot]

I'm not sure what's wrong with jdbc

[sturdy sand]

hy one question

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[quaint mantle]

can i make per world datapack?

[sturdy sand]

https://paste.md-5.net/oyovajekew.java
How can I make sure that this command can be executed one or more times according to what is defined in the config.yml?

[brazen badge]

I don't understand why but all sound made by a player is null

[keen charm]

Hello. I'm trying to create spoofed players, which is basically replicating player behaviour. But I don't listen to incoming packets except a few ones for sure so the spoofed players don't receive unnecessary information and put a high load on the server. In the network side, I'm replicating NioSocketChannel class with the name FakeChannel. However, I have to filter ClientboundCustomPayloadPacket so some plugins which use messaging system to sync player data can function properly. But the issue starts here: I override writeAndFlush(Object msg) method. Here, I only accept ByteBuf, String, PacketPlayOutSetSlot and ClientboundCustomPayloadPacket. But when a ClientboundCustomPayloadPacket passes through, I get this error: https://pastes.dev/Uz1UTkQS5J

What seems to be wrong with this? If you could help it'd be awesome, thank you.

[proud badge]

you want to add a limit to the amount of times you can execute the command, or what?

well just keep track of how many times the command was executed (maybe with PDC of the player)

[sturdy sand]

yes yes yes, I already did it, the bad thing is that when I restart the server, the command is enabled again

[proud badge]

yeah use PDC, it persists between reboots https://docs.papermc.io/paper/dev/pdc

[tulip patrol]

you need to store that value

so that it persists

[proud badge]

it lets you store data on the player (or any item/entity)

[sturdy sand]

eee no era spigot

[tulip patrol]

because even reboots/reloads it will reset unless you store it/load it back

[sturdy sand]

mmm ok

[proud badge]

the article documentation works for spigot too

[sturdy sand]

I understand

[tulip patrol]

just think of it like, if you have player /homes, these are saved in files and loaded

same concept, thats the only way you can retain it between reloads/reboots

[blazing ocean]

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[sturdy sand]

I understand, thanks, I'll try to do it, another thing, do you know of a command called /redeem, I'm creating that, I just want to implement a check-in system, that is, if I use /redeemckeck <user> tells me who I vote for and so on!

package org.eredeem.commands;

import org.bukkit.command.Command;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandSender;
import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
import org.eredeem.ERedeem;
import org.eredeem.utils.MessageUtils;

public class RedeemCheckCommand implements CommandExecutor {

    private ERedeem plugin;
    public RedeemCheckCommand(ERedeem plugin){
        this.plugin = plugin;
    }


    @Override
    public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String alias, String[] args) {

        if(!(sender instanceof Player)){
            if (args.length == 0){
                sender.sendMessage(MessageUtils.getColoredMessage("&cSi vale"));
                return true;
            }
        }

        Player player = (Player) sender;

        if(args.length == 0){
            sender.sendMessage(MessageUtils.getColoredMessage("&cSi vale"));
        }
        
        return true;
    }
}

this test command

[quaint mantle]

unsafe!/

[remote swallow]

Your checking if it's not instance of player

[quaint mantle]

no FFM!?

[remote swallow]

Infact I can't see where the braces end

[remote swallow]

Store who they voted for

[eternal oxide]

move the first return true; outside the next }

[quaint mantle]

spoofing is bad!

[sturdy sand]

mm saveConfig?

[keen charm]

I'm not trying to hide it?

[remote swallow]

Store it wherever you want

[keen charm]

I literally said "spoofed players" in the text

[sturdy sand]

ok ok

[quaint mantle]

tragic

[orchid rapids]

I'm having a hard time with chunk snapshots 😭 When trying to getBlockType(), the code passes the validateChunkCoordinates() check, but then throws an index out of bounds exception when trying to access the corresponding section: Index 24 out of bounds for length 24. Since the coordinate check succeeds I assume that the call I am doing is valid, but some math inside the snapshot class is misbehaving.

[hybrid spoke]

can you share your code with us please?

[orchid rapids]

Yup, hang on. I'm working on producing some logs that show the values I pass

Hm. Looks like I'm accessing y=320. That's probably not supposed to pass validateChunkCoordinates()?

[remote swallow]

319 is height limit so 320 is too high

[hybrid spoke]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/ChunkSnapshot.html#getBlockType(int,int,int)

there you have the bounds

[orchid rapids]

Supposedly

y=320 passes

    static void validateChunkCoordinates(int minY, int maxY, int x, int y, int z) {
        Preconditions.checkArgument(0 <= x && x <= 15, "x out of range (expected 0-15, got %s)", x);
        Preconditions.checkArgument(minY <= y && y <= maxY, "y out of range (expected %s-%s, got %s)", minY, maxY, y);
        Preconditions.checkArgument(0 <= z && z <= 15, "z out of range (expected 0-15, got %s)", z);
    }

Yup, the code does a <=

I'll fix my own code though, and see where that gets me. I'm not supposed to be checking 320

Math is hard

Yeah that solves it

[inland hemlock]

Does anyone know a list where I can see the particles for net.minecraft.core.particles.Particles;? called Particles.a,b,c...

nvm found it

[keen charm]

Bump

[slate siren]

guys guys
I have 2 plugins. How can I integrate them with each other? I want to get data from one plugin data.db from another plugin

[sullen marlin]

make a public method and then use it from the other plugin

[sullen marlin]

there's a particle api...

[inland hemlock]

Uff.. just did it so i could use the increased distance boolean and just saw that there was one in spawnParticle 🫠

[stuck oar]

  EndlessMode:
    1to5:
      zombie:
    6to10:
      zombie:
      cow:```

how would i double loop this

i want to get every section in EndlessMode, then loop through that section

this is all in config.yml

[sweet pike]

is there any way to check if an item in the left hand would be 'usable' or 'consumable' if the player right clicks?

for example, a shield in their left hand would start blocking, bread in the off-hand would trigger eating only if their hunger is below 20

but a grass block in their left-hand would not be usable

[tulip patrol]

compare the material?

[summer scroll]

for each : config.getConfigurationSection("MobDrops.EndlessMode").getKeys(false)
```Then you are able to get the values in every section of EndlessMode.

[summer scroll]

I think you can maybe use Material#isEdible or Material#isInteractable

[sweet pike]

for context, im trying to detect whether an item in the offhand will actually be consumed by the player or if it will not.

for example, holding carrots in the off-hand, with full hunger, when clicking the off-hand will not make the player eat.

however, holding a golden apple in the off-hand, regardless of the hunger, will allow the player to eat

im trying to differenciate between successful off-hand actions and right-clicks that don't actually do anything

[echo basalt]

Little NMS could help 🤔

[tulip patrol]

org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerItemConsumeEvent?

and cancel it if hunger is full?

[echo basalt]

Food components -> can always eat

[sweet pike]

what about a more generic approach though

for example, if a shield is in the off-hand, that's always usable

what im trying to do is to cancel main-hand behaviour if the off-hand has available function.

[sweet pike]

any specific approaches?

[tulip patrol]

use org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerItemConsumeEvent

and compare the hands

and materials

[echo basalt]

Item#use returns a result holder

[sweet pike]

is this regarding NMS?

[echo basalt]

Yeah

[tulip patrol]

If you use the PlayerItemConsumeEvent, you can get the hand they used and the item they used

[echo basalt]

Thing is it causes side effects

[tulip patrol]

without using NMS

[sweet pike]

that will not work, blocking a shield doesn't call that event

[echo basalt]

Things like shields might trigger consume event

[sweet pike]

i tried, it doesn't

[echo basalt]

odd

[sweet pike]

let me double check again

[sweet pike]

yeah that doesn't work

that event will only fire after something is physically consumed by the client

[echo basalt]

Might be wonky given the client sends packets saying what hand it's using

[tulip patrol]

what about PlayerAnimationEvent?

[echo basalt]

You could mess with hands at a packet level

intercept packet, change the hand if it matches your conditions

this'll prob mess up

[sweet pike]

i doubt that will work either. seems really minimal

[echo basalt]

unless you set the item, set the hand and at the end of the tick set the item back

[sweet pike]

i have custom items in the game that has functionality when interacted with. Im trying to stop that functionality if the off-hand has available function. so in other word, off-hand gets priority if needbe

[echo basalt]

or you cancel the packet, set the hand, trigger the packet, set back

🤔

[tulip patrol]

so

wouldn't you just need PlayerInteractEvent then?

[echo basalt]

prolly

and then you manually write half a million checks

[sweet pike]

but i dont wanna do that! 😭

ill have to keep updating it everytime an interactable item is made

surely there's an abstract way to do this

[tulip patrol]

PlayerInteractEvent seems like as abstract as you can get it lol

and you can still getHand()

[sweet pike]

but this event doesn't tell me if the item was actually interacted with

might as well be called PlayerClickedMouseEvent

regardless of whether i can eat the carrot or not, the event will fire. regardless of whether the shield is on cooldown or not, the event will fire

[sweet pike]

i guess this might be the way to go

but i want to make sure that this specifically doesnt already exist somewhere in the API

[restive mango]

How do you avoid causing redstone to drop if you use .update to update a block with redstone dust on it back into a regular air block?

[sullen marlin]

Add false for no physics

[restive mango]

i do have false for no physics

hence my conundrum!

[orchid rapids]

Is it still the case that there's no proper way to read datapack biomes from blocks?

Ie. we expect all blocks in custom biomes to only report "minecraft:custom", and that's that?

[wide vigil]

BedWars1058 plugin help:

There's a really long wait after finishing a game and then redirecting you to the set lobby
Any way to shorten this to like 5 seconds or something?

[sly topaz]

don't crosspost, and plugin questions like those are really specific so you're better off asking the developer themselves in the discussions tab of the resource

[wide vigil]

what is crossposting

[sly topaz]

posting the same message in more than one channel

[wide vigil]

ah i see

where should i post it then

[sly topaz]

questions like that go to #help-server, but as I said, it's kind of specific so you're better off asking the developer. This channel is for plugin development questions

[wide vigil]

nobody in the bedwars1058 server is helpful or actually answering my question 💀

[sly topaz]

well, if they can't answer it there, I can't imagine anyone here could either

just use a plugin with better support ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly topaz]

with the API, yes

I assume you still could get the backing registry to get the proper key if anything

[wide vigil]

its not that they cant answer its that the server is dead ;-;

[orchid rapids]

The key is all I need

[wide vigil]

the spigot server is my last resort and i get made fun of for crossposting

wow ;-;

[sly topaz]

you're not being made fun off, you're just being told to follow the rules. Support for specific plugins is rarely given around these servers anyway, unless the plugin is really well-known like say, WorldEdit or LuckPerms

[wide vigil]

just read the rules over again and it never said no crossposting

[sly topaz]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-17-getting-custom-biomes-and-dimensions-by-namespace.513957/

[river oracle]

Awh man we really need to convert biome

[orchid rapids]

Thank you, but I've already seen this. Using OBC/NMS is impractical bordering on impossible

[sly topaz]

why so? It is just a little bit of reflection

Sure, not as convenient as the API, but there's no alternative to that. It's either doing it yourself or finding a library that does it for you

[orchid rapids]

My plugin has to support Minecraft versions 1.16.5, 1.17.1, 1.18.2, 1.19.2, 1.19.4, 1.20.1, 1.20.2, 1.20.4, 1.20.6, and 1.21.1. I am already using Manifold to do some hackery, but having to maintain working NMS code for all of those would drive me insane. Not to mention that I'd have to run Build Tools in my CI/CD?

[sly topaz]

that's why you'd do it with reflection/method handles, so that you only have to make changes if there is actually a difference in a newer version, otherwise you just use the default implementation (excluding the fact that the package changes every time)

people do choose to avoid reflection and do multiple modules instead because it is more clear what the intent is and it doesn't silently break like a reflective implementation would (this is preventable by forcefully disabling the functionality in unsupported versions unless some kind of configuration option is given to ignore it), in which case you'd have to run build tools in your CI/CD, yeah

nowadays it is easier than ever, if anything, with official mappings and remapper tools to aid in the understand of internals

all of that being said, the choice to maintain multiple versions is really on the developer. I do not believe it is necessary to keep support for that many versions behind when there's literally no reason for people to not upgrade besides maybe some plugin that went unsupported, at most I'd maintain the last 2 versions behind but that's it

[river oracle]

Honestly multiple modules is the way to go. Also cutting fat of versions that are less than optimal to keep supporting you could cut every version up to 1.20.4 with minimal impact

[sly topaz]

tbf if your plugin is old, there's no harm in keeping support for the old versions since the implementation won't change, the issue is when adding new features or reworking things, that's when you just have to inevitably drop support for some versions

[orchid rapids]

I would gladly, but the list of versions comes from the parent project, which is not mine

[river oracle]

I mean you can always cut support on your fork

There no need to maintain 1 to 1 compat

So long as it's explicit your fork doesn't support those versions I see no issue

[orchid rapids]

Mine is more of a companion, but you're still correct. I'd of course prefer to maintain compatibility if possible though

The current issue with not getting the correct biome key simply manifests in incorrect colors for the player

[sly topaz]

yeah, getting biome keys is a weird hill to die on

what you can do is instead just not support this specific feature for older versions

[orchid rapids]

True. I can leave it the way it is right now for the ones that want to run stone age Minecraft

[sly topaz]

or maybe incrementally add support for the older versions as you find time to implement and test it there, as long as it is requested

this is also a good way to promote people to upgrade

[orchid rapids]

The plugin still has a quite small install base (100 - 150 servers), so stats aren't necessarily representative of the potential

but I guess this is a good place to start

[sly topaz]

Ideally Spigot would just provide the API but we can't just sit around and wait for it, can we 😛

[orchid rapids]

I will make my own API, with blackjack and booze

[sly topaz]

I'd imagine it wouldn't even be hard to implement, just nobody interested enough to PR

@river oracle wink wink

[orchid rapids]

I'll make a donation to whoever implements it for 1.21.1, and an additional donation for every version it is backported to x)

[sly topaz]

are backports of API even possible, as in, does Spigot even merge those I wonder

[orchid rapids]

Probably not

[sly topaz]

if they do and those branches aren't just kept frozen, I'd be interested in backporting a few APIs tbh

if not, I'm surprised there's no one making a fork to provide new API to older versions, where applicable

[worldly ingot]

We do not maintain older API versions

Bukkit moves forwards

[sly topaz]

time to make Cursed Spigot

[river oracle]

very rare occassions where a issue is fixed and backported

but 99% of the time no

[river oracle]

Marvin has all the diff

it just needs a PR I could throw it together, but it seems like nothing is getting merged atm

[sly topaz]

md is probably working with the snapshots to even bother

[river oracle]

yeah what I figure

I will do it once 1.21.2 drops whenever that may be

[sly topaz]

they already added the derp- creaking, so that'll probably be soon

I am rather dissapointed at how derp it is, but ig since updates are drops now, it is what it is

[river oracle]

yeah it seems kinda purposeless

I hope it gets tweaked

otherwise it'll be just another one of those things that is just kinda there and you can just avoid and never have to deal with

not to mention that the mob itself isn't even really a threat

[sly topaz]

I want it to be more violent and able to teleport, also maybe for it to get angry whenever you try to remove their heart

[river oracle]

meh idc if they don't even touch the mob as long as they give the biome a purpose cuz like you can do legit everything in the biome without being under threat during the day

like give me a reason to go at night

[sly topaz]

also for the biome to be much larger so that you have no choice but to go through it

[river oracle]

I kinda don't like that its just a dark forest

but that's lowest on my list of complains vs the need for actual purpose

[sly topaz]

I'm fine with it being an alternative dark forest, I just don't find much purpose about it since you can just go around it with no issue

[river oracle]

if they implement some purpose the fact its a dark forsest reskin is fine

[sly topaz]

then again, if it were to be bigger then people would ask for more things to be in the biome, so it is a lose-lose situation

the fact that the mob drops nothing is also rather disappointing

I couldn't care less about the advancements, they don't reward you for them in the game anyway

[river oracle]

I feel like the downside with drops is that they have this cool idea, but they gotta add it by December and once it gets added going back and improving it becomes more annoying

if this was a yearly update I'd feel way more confident with their ability to actually morph this into something neat

[sly topaz]

they just began experimenting with this new version format so I assume we're getting the worst of it right now and it'll get better as they adapt to the new release cycle

[river oracle]

probably yeah, this is a really cool concept I just hope they pull it off and it doesn't end up being pointless

like honestly Trial Chambers are dope as hell 1.21 was a super great update

[sly topaz]

I do not like how comfortable they've gotten with experiments either, like bundles went through 4 major versions before it is finally going to be out of experimental phase lol

[river oracle]

They are scared to change stuff experiments get them feedback before snapshots

my thoughts on that

e.g. if they added that redstone or minecart stuff to a snapshot people would have probably freaked out

[sly topaz]

I am fine with experiments as a concept, they're good to gather overall reaction and feedback

the issue is with how long they take to actually implement that feedback if at all

if that's how it is going to be, then there's little reason for it to be a experiment at all, and it isn't like they're scrambling for developers to work on these features either

[river oracle]

yeah, I mean the thing is idk how big their java team is, but they also gotta develop the updates, fix bugs etc etc

I wouldn't be surprised if they implemented experiments of ideas for updates they wanted to do 2 or 3 major updates down the line

[sly topaz]

I think most of the time is lost in having to coordinate which features get implemented across all versions considering they have to sync with bedrock as well

so probably a lot of bureaucracy to get things going on

it is funny to think about seeing how these have diverged vastly already but eh

[river oracle]

I've always seen bedrock as the problem child xD, but its clear that's microsoft's pride and joy

[neon shoal]

Is there amy way to detect a structure or a biome and spawn a custom mob?

[lime hare]

can any1 help me with chat core plugin?

[fading drift]

whats event for natural regen

[wet breach]

only for some things, not everything is synced with bedrock

there is still plenty of stuff that java edition has that bedrock doesn't and there is stuff that bedrock has that java edition does not

[sly topaz]

I am aware, that's why I followed it up with the comment below the one you replied. That still doesn't mean it has to go through some kind of internal process which for sure it does

[twilit coral]

in the context of the player?

[hazy parrot]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityRegainHealthEvent.RegainReason.html#REGEN

you can check for some of those enum fields

in entityregainhealthevent

[fading drift]

ty

[lilac dagger]

which one do you guys prefer?

ignore the highlighting if you can

i think the one on the right is cleaner, tho removeIf feels used abusively here

[quiet ice]

depends on the call frequency

For methods that are rarely called, the right one is fine

[fair rock]

Because the right one has more overhead behind the scene with removeIf?

[quiet ice]

yeah

[eternal night]

I mean "overhead" is kinda crazy

[quiet ice]

although the overhead is comparatively miniscule

[fair rock]

Im bad in english, i didnt know how to describe it. Wanna explain more how you would call it?

[quiet ice]

that being said these margins can add up, so I'm usually less negligent on that front outside of code I know will only be run at startup

[river oracle]

The right looks objectively better. Unless it's a hotspot no reason to make it not look good

[eternal night]

I mean, even if.

das a single invokedynamic/invokevirtual

[river oracle]

Tbh the amount of calls needed even if it is a hotspot would be insane

[river oracle]

Muh CPU CYCLES

[lilac dagger]

it should be fine

[quiet ice]

in hotspot code JIT would kick in, so it's actually pretty much the same in a hotspot code

[lilac dagger]

i don't expect 100 parties

[fair rock]

Because of your ?, "I mean "overhead" is kinda crazy", i mean why is the call with "Overhead" kinda crazy, how you would describe whats the issue on the right when its get frequently called

[eternal night]

there is effectively 0 issue with either of the code being called very frequently

[river oracle]

The overhead from removeIf is so tiny calling it overhead is wild

[quiet ice]

So it need to run just often enough for the margin to be small enough to be noticed (when added up with other margins), but not often enough for the C2 compiler to kick in

In the end it's just a question of writing whatever you like most

[river oracle]

Idk what you've been told but the functional methods while technically slower are so much little slower that optimizing for it is probably the last thing on the chain of optimizations

You'll save like a marginal amount of nano seconds

[quiet ice]

They are the same once compiled actually

[river oracle]

Really? I mean I haven't looked at java bytecode but does it really compile down to jmp statements

I thought for sure it'd be a method call

[quiet ice]

inlining is a thing

And removeIf can be faster on stuff like ArrayLists

[eternal night]

removeIf on fastutil collections is OP af

[quiet ice]

But only when bulk-removing, if you rarely remove stuff or only remove few things, it'll be slower because of the overhead associated with the removeIf method

[river oracle]

Fastutil my beloved

[slender elbow]

not me removing every second element hehehe

[blazing ocean]

b-but i'm running on an arduino nano!

[eternal night]

imagine if like, the server would be doing that

on like, a large af list

[slender elbow]

that would be very funny

[viscid carbon]

Im not going crazy right? this should work...

ConfigurationSection acceptSettings = this.core.getConfig().getConfigurationSection("Applications.Settings.Accept");

Applications:
  Settings:
    Accept:
      Announce: true
      Annoucement: "&a[player] &7Has just been accepted into the server!"
      Commands:
      - 'setrank [player] Player'
      Chats:
      - "&7Welcome to the server! &a[player]!"```

saying the section is null btw

Yml lint is saying its good

[tulip patrol]

did you load the config?

[viscid carbon]

Yes, its the default config.yml

[slender elbow]

did you save it into the plugin folder?

[viscid carbon]

Yes, everything else works fine

[fluid river]

bruh

guy gave me a task to write a program which returns all words in the text file and how many times this word appeared

and then this happened

String correctedLine = line.replaceAll("[^a-zа-яα-ωΑ-Ωŋё-֊־‒–—―⸗⸚⸺〰゠︱︲﹘﹣－' \\-]", " ").trim();```

look at this regex

i didn't even know this characters existed

i had to decompile the shit to get them

[viscid carbon]

Shit, nvm my kid got me 😂

idk why it didnt error out

[wet breach]

😮 you are back

[fluid river]

jree fava lessons

crazy ahh regex writer

[sterile token]

hello, any recomendations for a unified permission system for proxies and servers

[granite ravine]

heyy, does anyone know if it's possible to create custom advancements without using NMS?

[chrome beacon]

LuckPerms

[halcyon hemlock]

just use nms frfr

https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Update_Advancements

[inland hemlock]

Can I spawn npcs (for corpses) without nms in 1.21.1? trying with and there is no gameprofile anymore and neither CraftPlayerProfile nor PlayerProfile is working.

[chrome beacon]

No

You need nms

[pseudo hazel]

i thought you could make them with resource packs or whatever

arent they data driven?

[blazing ocean]

data packs

[pseudo hazel]

ah right

same thing

[blazing ocean]

they really aren't but sure

[pseudo hazel]

i mean a resourcepack is just a datapack but for clients

[river oracle]

that's not even true either lol

[inland hemlock]

Hm.. okay, and what happened to GameProfile? I still need it for the EntityPlayer..

[chrome beacon]

It still exists

[inland hemlock]

Can't send screenshots.. but can't import it. Using api1.21.1 R0.1 and server1.21.1-R0.1 dependencies

[sterile token]

right, but does it support multiples proxy sync? I seen that for server you use a context and works. But not sure if works for many proxies.

Also i seen that they api is a mess. You have to do thosens of things just to get the user rank name

[remote swallow]

sure it works for multiple proxies

[brazen badge]

anyone?

[sterile token]

oh right, i wil try it. Thanks man

[sterile token]

i don't want to sound rude. But we must wait for answers patiently. Also if ur message get lost best option is to open a thread on this channel

[brazen badge]

I only bumped the message because it was lost

[cedar flume]

Hey,
Any handy public/popular micro libraries for protecting specified blocks from all forms of damage (player/explosion/mob grief/form/decay etc etc)?

bonus points if it persists the specified protections.

Or am I best just handling all of the possible cases myself?

[frosty leaf]

Hello, good afternoon, sorry, I don't speak English, I speak Spanish, I really have very little knowledge about programming a plugin, I know the basics of how to configure it, view files, etc. But I am in the middle of creating a Minecraft series which increases in difficulty but I want to add features such as pressing a button to make you instakill or things like that. Is there a plugin that makes it possible or some way to add difficulties?

[kind hatch]

@river oracle If you're around, could help me with something in vc?

[river oracle]

I'm at the library doing an essay atm I'll lyk when i get back

[kind hatch]

Bet

[river oracle]

it prob won't be soon tho

[kind hatch]

It's all good

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[summer scroll]

You can do that with command blocks.

[civic seal]

hello

i want someone who is unregistered on the server to be spawned in a place different from the spawn one and after they registered they ll be teleported to the spawn

is this available only on bungee?

[timber vortex]

Hey, Im looking for a way to essentially glide users in a specific way within a world. Essentially what I want to do is create a "cutseen" which takes users from a starting position and ending position, with it dipping to black to cut to different places.

[frosty leaf]

But would it add some kind of lag

Or every time I restart the server do I need to activate them again or do they only work for a specific area?

[civic seal]

can someone help me there?

[slate siren]

how can I integrate two plugins with each other?

[eternal oxide]

integrate?

explain in more detail

[stuck oar]

how do i make subcommands

[river oracle]

an if statement

or a map

[summer scroll]

Using few command blocks shouldn't be a problem.

[summer scroll]

I'm not entirely sure about it because I haven't played with command blocks before, only plugins. However, as far as I'm aware, you don't need to activate them again. I suggest watching videos about the technical aspects of command blocks.

[tulip patrol]

I mean if you do it as a plugin, every time you restart the server you would have to "activate" the way the plugin handles it again if you have a required state that needs to be saved between reloads/restarts. That might be more of a hassle to deal with if you don't have any programming knowledge versus using command blocks if command blocks can achieve the same goal you're trying to do.

[slate siren]

There is a pvp plugin, it manages parts like kills death kdr and saves it in the data.db section. Additionally, I created a plugin called rank and in it, I will create a rank jumping system according to the player's kill amount, but I couldn't understand how to get the kill amount in pvp in the rank plugin

[eternal oxide]

check if the pvp plugin has an api

[slate siren]

Both belong to me

[eternal oxide]

then write an api

[frosty leaf]

Ok here is my problem, I will use a roulette datapack that I must use a command in a command block to activate it or activate it from the chat that makes the roulette appear for all users on the server and 2 command blocks that one is to play a decorative sound and the next to place a message something like, Red roulette

An electric crepper will appear at the location of all players

I could do everything through chat, it would be to agree with the person I will hire to put the message roulette wheels, etc.

The problem here is that I can't find anything similar in any YouTube video haha ​​:C

A while ago I bought a plugin that makes the drops of mobs change. You can choose what you want and that is useful for me to make the difficulty more difficult, do you understand? But I would like to see if there is a plugin that can modify things in Minecraft. How hungry a food makes you, how much harm does such a thing do?

[slate siren]

then

[eternal oxide]

use it

[rough ibex]

considering you're in #help-development, you are going to get better plugin dev advice

the things you describe are possible for sure

[tulip patrol]

They're possible, but whether such a plugin for such a niche purpose alone exists? Not too sure.

You would really have to either commit looking deep into plugins compatible with your version of Minecraft or see if anyone is willing to develop a plugin to do that for you for free, or commission it out.

or make it yourself.

Like, alone a plugin to change how food affects you alone isn't hard to make. But it really depends on the full extent of how much you need this plugin to do for you.

[slate siren]

wowww, I didn't think it would be this simple... I know these things too, but I don't have enough information on how to do them, so I wrote it here

[frosty leaf]

It's something very specific, that's what makes it more difficult.

If it is the problem for someone who cannot afford to pay someone, besides it is hard work, I respect the work and knowledge of any person and I have obtained knowledge based on trial and error, but I have not yet ventured into really basic things. create a plugin from 0. that's why series with streamers are very expensive because of all the development, plugins, datapacks, texture packs and mods that are made for the series

[eternal oxide]

Bukkit.getPlugin("YourPVPPlugin")... access the API you wrote to fetch the data you need.

[tulip patrol]

It's actually not hard to make basic plugins with simple goals that you are describing and its likely more worth learning because the skill threshold required isn't very high honestly.

[frosty leaf]

I understand, I will see if I hire someone to make me a plugin that adds the difficulty changes like what I mentioned, for example the captus now do a thousand damage or something like that

[slate siren]

So is there anything I need to write in pom.xml or anywhere for this?

[tulip patrol]

The spigot website has basic tutorials that can get the point across very easily if you follow step by step.

[frosty leaf]

I have this month to learn everything I will use and how things will work in the series, it is not a paid commission, it is my own series, a project for people who are not famous like me and can enjoy a series with a little quality

I'll see if I can find them in Spanish, maybe I can make my own plugin haha, wish me luck, I appreciate your time and your interest in answering me.

[tulip patrol]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-plugin-development/

You can try to get a translated version of this page.

and there's also this but I don't think it covers translations for plugin development: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-espanol/