help-development

[wet breach]

addWith pulls the related text associated with you input as the arg. So if its an item for example it would pull its name

and if you noticed in the example, the username is just a TextComponent

because its merely a string

but if overall it needs to be a string though you could just convert everything to just a simple Textcomponent

[short drift]

Yes, but the example does use two TranslatableComponents, which is also what I'm trying to do.

And it uses addWidth to combine them.

[wet breach]

Yeah because the names or those strings can be changed so it pulls that data for you, not that its asolutely necessary though

[short drift]

As far as I can tell.

[twilit creek]

Does anyone know how to use custom fonts in inventories?

[wet breach]

yeah its like a string builder

doesn't always work sometimes

[chrome beacon]

You need to use NMS or the Paper API

[short drift]

Err. Mkay. So what's the recommended best practice?

[wet breach]

I think your issue might be this

inspectionText.addWith(". ");

[twilit creek]

I don't want to use Paper as my Server Software so i don't know another option sadly. What is meant with "use NMS" NMS is really big?

[wet breach]

to add that, you would need to have it be a text component first before adding it with addWith

[short drift]

So it does need the text component to be used explicitly?

[chrome beacon]

NMS refers to the code written by Mojang

[short drift]

I thought it was unnecessary.

[chrome beacon]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[chrome beacon]

Read this on how to add it to the project ^

[wet breach]

The example you referred does turns username into a text component before adding it

[short drift]

I think I might have missed that.

I will test that out.

[wet breach]

it would make sense that it needs to be component of some kind

since you are using translatable component

[twilit creek]

Yeah i know but how could i use it in context of font? I have NMS in my code but how to style the text of the inventory font with it?

[chrome beacon]

You use components as the inventory name

Instead of a String like the Spigot API does

[twilit creek]

But this don't work with the normal SpigotAPI

I mean with components

[eternal night]

spigot and components isn't really a thing yet

[chrome beacon]

?

[frail pilot]

After some test, it looks like interpolation is needed to smooth the animation but you need to put it inside the runnable. But even with standard block size it's hard to see differences between one with interpolation and another one without.

[twilit creek]

I mean Bukkit.createInventory(null, size, Component.text("<Text>").font(Key.key("inventories"))); doesn't work with Spigot only, it only works with Papers API

[chrome beacon]

Yeah as I said you need to use nms

Not the Spigot API to have access to components in the inventory title

[twilit creek]

But what should i do with NMS to create the Inventory with the Name and the Font? NMS is really big.

[eternal night]

You are pretty much fucked

[chrome beacon]

Yes

[eternal night]

Issue is that spigot's implementation of Container (MinecraftInventory) does not know anything about component titles

[twilit creek]

Yeah but how does Paper than implement something like the adventure api with components? I know, with Patches but what could i do to set the Font of a text in a inventory in Spigot?

[blazing ocean]

paper is the only easy solution for that

[eternal night]

your plugin cannot edit server source code

paper can

[twilit creek]

I know, but is there a way to use NMS or something like @chrome beacon said before?

[eternal night]

not without half rolling your own packet based inventory logic

[blazing ocean]

at that point just use paper

and do everything with components

[frail pilot]

the illusion is almost perfect

[twilit creek]

But i can't use Paper on the Server as Software because we only use Spigot and don't want to use ever Paper. I hate Paper, it doesn't makes any performance better and my Permission System doesn't work with Paper as well. Because of this i even ask for another solution without Paper. But thanks for trying to give me that idea.

[eternal night]

Ye I mean, spin our own inventory framework then 👍

[blazing ocean]

spigot has close to no support for components

[eternal night]

or wait for chocos pr

[blazing ocean]

kekw

[eternal night]

actually, idk if that touches inventory. It does 👍

[blazing ocean]

just pull from his fork

[eternal night]

wild permission system to not work on paper tho

[blazing ocean]

do you even change many permission-related things

[eternal night]

it got redone with paper plugins

but like, unless the plugin is ripping out all of permission handling, it should be fine

[blazing ocean]

yea but it shouldn't be breaking spigot plugins

[eternal night]

Well, if they hack into NMS it would

[blazing ocean]

kekw

[twilit creek]

Funny thing i know, but it does break the permission system. (coded from a developer from us)

[eternal night]

Yea then presumably it injects itself into server internals and dies there

[blazing ocean]

why even do that-

[eternal night]

I mean, LuckPerms does that too

[twilit creek]

It uses Server internals but with Spigot it works and on Paper it doesn't.

[eternal night]

I mean yea, to be expected

if you code something for spigot internals, why would it work on paper internals

[blazing ocean]

spigot mapped?

[twilit creek]

LuckPerms we can't control so we try to only use selfcoded things as long as they don't to complex like PlotSquared or something like it.

[eternal night]

no just, paper yanks internal things obviously

[blazing ocean]

o

[eternal night]

Idk how you'd be any kind of fork without changing internals

[blazing ocean]

yea but i mean how would that break spigot stuffs

spigot plugins work fine on paper

[eternal night]

Well if they use internals (which seems to be the case) then they don't

if they call CraftBlock#a but paper removes #a and instead implements #b but makes the API still work, the plugin using CraftBlock#a would still die

[blazing ocean]

i haven't had a single NMS references in two of my servers lmfao

[twilit creek]

this one from us don't. And we won't change something internal on our Plugin there.

[eternal night]

If you actually have a specific case where only using spigot-api breaks on paper, that should probably be reported.

[blazing ocean]

only playerlist-related and i used packetevents for that

[quaint mantle]

how can i remove my name from the tablist in 1.8?

[blazing ocean]

?1.8 moment

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[twilit creek]

I know, but i have no use if it is fixed in later versions, i need it now.

[blazing ocean]

fork then

[short drift]

@wet breachOk, so what WORKS (but might not be optimal) is wrapping everything like:

new TextComponent(new TranslatableComponent("my.translation"))

And then I simply add all the TextComponents together with addExtra().
Which is exactly what someone yesterday told me NOT to do.

[quaint mantle]

im using 1.8 for an auth server :|

[sullen canyon]

remove info packet

[quaint mantle]

how

[twilit creek]

And my second owner and my admins don't want to use Paper. idk if it is because of ideological reasons like with ProtocolLib breaking on reload. But i think they have there reasons. (Funny thing, refector 3 lines code and ProtocolLib dosn't crash anymore on reloading)

[blazing ocean]

reloading is the issue

you shouldn't do that

[wet breach]

I couldn't tell you why not, also I am not exactly an expert in regards to using components as I don't really use them. But at least you made progress and have managed to get it working. Now you can just improve it from there 🙂

[twilit creek]

very funny, no it isn't

[blazing ocean]

well, reloading breaks everything

never worked for my plugin without breaking DBs, etc

[twilit creek]

On developing plugins and always restart the server i can make 3-4 coffees in this time.

[blazing ocean]

run a dev server and hot-reload

[twilit creek]

Just close the connection properly.

[eternal night]

This discussion is stupid. Spigot does not have a concept of components in titles yet

You will have to spin it completely yourself, the API and its implementation won't help you

[twilit creek]

Doesn't solve the problem but is better than always saying "UsE pApEr". Thanks. But does NMS works with it or can work with it?

[wet breach]

protocollib breaks on server reload due to the fact that protocollib needs to inject into the network manager and intercept packets. Thing is, when the server reloads all the plugins and some things in the server reload but network manager does not and it breaks the injection

[short drift]

And I couldn't have done it without your help. You're the best. Thank you.

[eternal night]

Huh?

I mean, yea you have to use NMS for it

[wet breach]

[twilit creek]

Not true, the only thing that breaks is the logger and this could be fixed by rewriting 3 lines code. Ideological bullshit from ProtocolLib.

Never had any problems with it after it.

[blazing ocean]

don't use plib if it doesn't work for you then

[wet breach]

then use a custom version of protocollib if that is the case, but I have had things break in regards to reflection when it comes to a sudo reload of an application

[twilit creek]

It works for me, but not for others because i forked it and refectored the 3 lines code but the original ProtocolLib and the devs don't want to patch this little issue.

[wet breach]

ah seems you already did

thats good then lol

[blazing ocean]

then fix the other issues too :)

[twilit creek]

This is way harder than refectoring 3 lines.

[wet breach]

but as for someone who said reloading breaks their db, that is because of a design flaw on your part

[blazing ocean]

not just db, also lots of other stuff

[spice burrow]

lol yea i dont use protocollib because it f's with my nms for some reason

[blazing ocean]

my servers depend on initializing playerdata on join, having players on during plugin load breaks it

[wet breach]

Yes, but you if you account for null stuff and toss them out when reload happens and re-initialize it shouldn't be an issue

[wet breach]

this is easily fixable

[twilit creek]

name me 1 thing, never had any problems with it.

[blazing ocean]

i don't reload 🤷

[wet breach]

you pretend they joined again

and just go through the players that are there and re-initialize their stuff

[twilit creek]

no, this is funny but it doesn't.

[gentle inlet]

Hi guys!

[blazing ocean]

it's kinda not needed for me since i just hot reload the classes

hi

[twilit creek]

But you need to drink many coffee or tea in the time when you restart everytime the server.

[icy beacon]

Hello, Jonnite

[wet breach]

hot reloading does have its issues still just fyi, just be careful of unintential mem leaks

[gentle inlet]

Can someone help me ive been coding a plugin but my server keeps crashing I think I might know why but not sure how to fix it (Im quit new to coding)

[blazing ocean]

yeah, i have lots of memory it just crashes in that case

[twilit creek]

If you only reload 5-10 times at the server time it and restart it after it, all works and no mem leaks should happen.

[wet breach]

just show us your code and tell us your problem 🙂

[gentle inlet]

K

[twilit creek]

Expected it is an Dev Server and not an live server

[blazing ocean]

my server starts pretty quickly on my computer

[eternal night]

hot reloading with jetbrains runtime and proper flags does like, nearly everything

[blazing ocean]

yea ofc

[wet breach]

I didn't really understand what you were saying here

[gentle inlet]

I cant send it all as it too long how else shold i send it; mcpaste?

[wet breach]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[twilit creek]

if you have worries about mem leaks after reloading, this is not the case on a few reloads and not many actions on the server. (Only speaking from Dev-Servers that get only used for testing stuff)

[wet breach]

reloading is not the same as hot reloading. The majority of memory leaks don't come from the server itself rather plugins that are poorly designed and don't handle reloading from the server

[quaint mantle]

how can i remove the tablist of my server 1.8? help

[wet breach]

in regards to hot reloading, if you don't understand how it works you may uninentially cause memory leaks when using it

[gentle inlet]

https://paste.md-5.net/aforezufiw.cs so playing normaly is all fine but as soon as you give yourself a relic and have it in your inventory it starts freezing and crashing I think it might be something with the Click events or the Run() part the gives effect and scoreboard if you need the errors let me know

[twilit creek]

but what is the difference in reloading and hot reloading?

[wet breach]

hot reloading replaces classes directly

server reload simply re-initializes everything

[blazing ocean]

imagine ServerLoadEvent implemented Cancellable kekw

[eternal night]

"simply"

[twilit creek]

oh, but how does it work? I only know the option to replace your .jar and /reload your server after it.

[eternal night]

its a jvm feature

[wet breach]

^

[blazing ocean]

jetbrains runtime

allows you to redeclare classes, methods and method bodies

at runtime

[wet breach]

you have to register a jvm agent, and then you can replace classes that are already loaded

[twilit creek]

oh, like bytecode manipulation at runtime?

[gentle inlet]

I hope this is the right info im new to this stuff

[blazing ocean]

not out for jdk 21 tho :(

[wet breach]

there is libraries like the one that is being mentioned here that helps take care of most of the work for you

[twilit creek]

I think it is better that i don't use it and only useing the good old /reload.

[wet breach]

never hurts to broaden your knowledge

[twilit creek]

true

[wet breach]

but if you don't want to venture into unknown then so be it not like anyone is forcing you lol

I am content myself with just restarting a server 🙂

[wet breach]

you have a flaw

easily correctable though

[gentle inlet]

oh ok thats goodish

[wet breach]

your flaw is you are creating a bunch of tasks that never die

when you should be checking if the task already exists as well as making an exit loop for your tasks so they can die

should start with that and see how that goes

[gentle inlet]

How would I go about that or could you put that into simpler terms cus like a im new (ive said this hundreds of times lol)

[wet breach]

in your events, you are creating tasks but I imagine the task being created there is no code in the task for it to simply stop

so over time, you end up with bunch of these tasks all checking and doing the same thing

so, to avoid this, simply create a map that holds the player uuid and the value being the task that was created

or something to that effect

then you just check the map from your events to see if there is already a task created for whatever you are doing and if there is don't create a new one

in the code that the task is performing you simply create a check that should fail at some point so that when that is reached you cancel the task from within the task

now the task can die when it needs to and go away

[gentle inlet]

Ok thanks so much!

[wet breach]

and then you just have a cleanup loop

that checks your map and see if the tasks exist still if they don't remove the player from the map

you obviously can optimize this and this is just basically a rough outline to point you in the right direction

[hybrid quartz]

how to add multiversion support to plugin?

[eternal oxide]

there is a post about maven modules on alex site

?nms for me

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[eternal oxide]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/maven-multi-module-setup-for-supporting-different-nms-versions/

If you are asking about spigot API, target teh lowest version you want to support.

[hybrid quartz]

If I made plugin on Java 17 for Minecraft 1.18.2 can I add support to 1.12.2 version?

[eternal oxide]

yes and no

build for the lowest version

[hybrid quartz]

So I need to use only nms to do that?

[eternal oxide]

no, if you are talking about API

[hybrid quartz]

Or there is anything in spigot api

[eternal oxide]

The answer is still the same, for API you target the lowest version you want to support

[hybrid quartz]

Where I need to target it

[chrome beacon]

when you build

pom.xml or build.gradle for example

[hybrid quartz]

Okay thanks

I’ll check

[lilac dagger]

do you guys know the cleanest way to unpack a zip file?

[broken nacelle]

💀

[lilac dagger]

this is how i used to have it

oh i think i found a cleaner way 😄

[glad prawn]

use try-with-resources bro

[lilac dagger]

ye

along with readAllbytes

actually, try with resource won't work here

[glad prawn]

which one

[lilac dagger]

getnextentry

i can do it for the fos i guess

[glad prawn]

you can split it into smaller methods to make it cleaner and easier to read

[wet breach]

it seems your code guards against zip bomb however it doesn't seem to guard against zip slip

[lilac dagger]

the zip file is internal

i don't worry about zip exploits

anyway, what's a zip slip?

[wet breach]

zip slip is where it uses relative directory tricks to have a file get extracted to a different directory then from where you are extracting

[lilac dagger]

ah

yeah i don't have to worry about these

[chrome beacon]

Are you just extracting a zip inside of your jar?

[lilac dagger]

i have a list of songs and i extract them on plugin start in the plugin folder

looks nice

[glad prawn]

yeah

[onyx fjord]

jdk is great

lol what was that

[glad prawn]

what

[blazing ocean]

[onyx fjord]

some messages appeared and were deleted

idk

[blazing ocean]

khajiit

[glad prawn]

[hot walrus]

Im currently having a problem with my maven dependencies because I am trying to use the API of another plugin (Worldguard and luckperms): I added the dependencies in pom.xml and added the depend flag for the plugins in the Spigot file.
I ran the build and it succesfully built the plugin, but I when I try to use the classes in code, it just doest show up in autocomplete and throws an error if i just type it in. Neither does it give me an option to import

There is also no file in external libraries corresponding to the dependencies i have

[quaint mantle]

Have you tried reloading the maven project?

[hot walrus]

how do you do that?

no i havent

[quaint mantle]

Can't upload images here

[hot walrus]

Works

wow thank you

[quaint mantle]

[hot walrus]

Bruh that was way simpler than i thought

[blazing ocean]

?img

[undone axle]

Can't send images? That's because you're not verified! Use !verify to complete verification.
Alternatively, you can upload screenshots to any image hosting site and share the link.

Here's some screenshot utilities that you can use to upload images.
Lightshot: https://prnt.sc
Imgur: https://imgur.com/upload
Flameshot: https://flameshot.org

[quaint mantle]

It was for the guide

[glad prawn]

[kindred sentinel]

A pom.xml created by minecraft plugin is good?

[broken nacelle]

stop using maven

gradle is better

[hot walrus]

Qhy

Why

[broken nacelle]

many bugs in dependencies

[hot walrus]

Im used to it right now, if there are too many bugs, ill switch. But rn i feel like its fine

[eternal oxide]

maven is great

don;t listen to idiots

[eternal night]

switch to ant instead

[eternal oxide]

gradle and maven fetch dependencies from the exact same repositories.

[blazing ocean]

switch to the 2844km long javac command

[icy beacon]

it is subjective none is better none is worse

use what you're comfortable with and don't try to force others to conform to your preferences

for instance, in my own experience maven is better for java projects and gradle is better for kotlin

and we are NOT having a java vs kotlin discussion rn

ain't no way

[eternal oxide]

unless its to use Eclipse 🙂 then pressure everyone to conform.

[icy beacon]

i'll steal from your retirement funds

[blazing ocean]

you know, kotlin actually-

[icy beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-avengers-banned-discord-ban-hammer-gif-16215287

[river oracle]

actually 🤓

[dawn flower]

can u force someone to click in their currently opened inventory

[eternal oxide]

no

[dawn flower]

that's sad

[compact arch]

I see, so I guess it's not possible to have multiple people assigned to one resource?

[vast ledge]

You can have them as co-authors afaik

[tardy delta]

FileInputStream.transfer?

[lilac dagger]

let me see

[tardy delta]

InputStream::transferTo(OutputStream)

[lilac dagger]

there's no file for input stream

[quaint mantle]

Hi, any can help me in creating a command listener?

[tardy delta]

?commands

could only try

have you read the docs?

wait a listener, like command pre process event?

[quaint mantle]

PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent

[tardy delta]

ye i cant read

[eternal oxide]

what for?

[quaint mantle]

if we execute any command it will send the player to the lobby server including "/"

on spigot plugin

[tardy delta]

simply send them to the lobby server when the event fires then

[compact arch]

Hmm, I see, so I guess I'd have to send an email and see then

[quaint mantle]

what code?

this is my code:

public class CommandListener implements Listener {

    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerCommand(PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        String command = event.getMessage();

        if (!command.isEmpty() && command.charAt(0) == '/') {
            if (!isCommandToExecute(player, command)) {
                event.setCancelled(true);
            }
        }
    }

    private boolean isCommandToExecute(Player player, String command) {
        FileConfiguration config = LimboCore.getInstance().getConfig();
        boolean autoLobbyCommand = config.getBoolean("auto-lobby-command");

        if (autoLobbyCommand && (command.equals("/") || command.startsWith("/lobby") || command.startsWith("/hub"))) {
            player.performCommand("/lobby");
            player.sendMessage(Utils.colorize("&aRedirected to lobby..."));
            return false;
        }
        return true;
    }
}

doesnt work

;/

[dawn flower]

ok..?

[tardy delta]

define not working

[dawn flower]

issue?

[eternal oxide]

just why? make a normal command

[dawn flower]

what's the command from cafebabe to tell people to not just say "doesnt work"

[tardy delta]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[dawn flower]

noted

[tardy delta]

"does not working"
where did that bot learn english

[dawn flower]

also register the command?

[dawn flower]

i think it's on purpose

someone told me it is

[eternal oxide]

literally register a command for "lobby" with an alias of "hub"

[quaint mantle]

Yes, when we run the slash command or regular command, what is expected is that the player will be returned to the lobby server from limbo. but currently it doesn't work from the code I created.

[eternal oxide]

you do not need the pre process event at all

[dawn flower]

my guy

register a command with an alias

[quaint mantle]

so?

[dawn flower]

and why in the flippin world r u running actual code that isn't related to the return value

even if aliases were that way

player.performCommand("/lobby");
player.sendMessage(Utils.colorize("&aRedirected to lobby..."));``` shouldn't be in isCommandToExecute

it should be in an else statement

anyways what's the issue

[eternal oxide]

performCommand will not be seen by Bungee

as it never leaves the spigot server

[quaint mantle]

please provide the code that you should mean

[eternal oxide]

?pmc You MUST use plugin messaging channels to transfer players.

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

[quaint mantle]

is it the same if I use velocity?

[eternal oxide]

yes

[quaint mantle]

okay

[blazing ocean]

this also exists on the paper wiki fyi

[eternal oxide]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[blazing ocean]

velocity is made by paper

[eternal oxide]

exactly

[blazing ocean]

i was telling them to consult the paper wiki as they made vel 🙂

[quaint mantle]

public class CommandListener implements Listener {

    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerCommand(PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        String command = event.getMessage();

        if (!command.isEmpty() && command.charAt(0) == '/') {
            if (!isCommandToExecute(player, command)) {
                event.setCancelled(true);
            }
        }
    }

    private boolean isCommandToExecute(Player player, String command) {
        FileConfiguration config = LimboCore.getInstance().getConfig();
        boolean autoLobbyCommand = config.getBoolean("auto-lobby-command");

        if (autoLobbyCommand && (command.equals("/") || command.startsWith("/lobby") || command.startsWith("/hub"))) {
            ByteArrayOutputStream byteArrayOutputStream = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
            DataOutputStream out = new DataOutputStream(byteArrayOutputStream);

            try {
                out.writeUTF("Connect");
                out.writeUTF("lobby");
                player.sendPluginMessage(LimboCore.getInstance(), "BungeeCord", byteArrayOutputStream.toByteArray());
            } catch (IOException e) {
                e.printStackTrace();
            } finally {
                try {
                    out.close();
                    byteArrayOutputStream.close();
                } catch (IOException e) {
                    e.printStackTrace();
                }
            }

            player.sendMessage(Utils.colorize("&aRedirected to lobby..."));
            return false;
        }
        return true;
    }
}
``` like this?

[orchid hinge]

wouldnt that only enable / /lobby and /hub when autoLobbyCommand is true?

[quaint mantle]

ye

[tardy delta]

use a try with resources

and why does a method that returns a boolean have side effects

[worldly ingot]

Success vs failure

[kindred sentinel]

Is there a way to get player's body's rotation?

[worldly ingot]

I believe that's totally handled by the client

[kindred sentinel]

Then how to do something like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238887050283974819/1238887794005508166/Base_Profile_2023.08.31_-_00.43.04.09_Trim.mp4

[worldly ingot]

Unsure. Has to be either some sort of riding entity or other layered model manipulation

[kindred sentinel]

I saw servers with this feature, so... It's not a mod or something like this, but I still don't understand how it works

[tardy delta]

i mean its called isCommandToExecute, not transferToLobby

[kindred sentinel]

Oh I found this plugin.. It's HMC Cosmetic Plugin

[worldly ingot]

https://github.com/HibiscusMC/HMCCosmetics/blob/remapped/common/src/main/java/com/hibiscusmc/hmccosmetics/cosmetic/types/CosmeticBackpackType.java

Yeah, they're making the armour stand ride the player

Granted it's packet based for some reason, but it's riding the player

[kindred sentinel]

Hm.. Maybe because of body rotation?

Ok, then other question... How to spawn a lot of particles? Not only 1 particle like do world.spawnParticle

only cycle?

[worldly ingot]

I mean yeah, if you don't care about the specific configuration of these particles, you can use the "amount" argument to change how many are spawned and control their density with the offsetX, Y and Z arguments

But if you want them in very very specific positions, then yes, you have to spawn many particles in specific spots

[kindred sentinel]

maybe amount arguement could be useful in this situation

[charred blaze]

how do i disable AI of entity?

[quaint mantle]

Pathfinder?

[quasi gulch]

Zombie zombie;
zombie.setAI(false);

for example

[charred blaze]

no method for AI

[shadow night]

Because it's an Entity

Iirc setAI is a LivingEntity method

[kindred sentinel]

I'm not sure that it works like supposed to

[quasi gulch]

Like he said change Entity to Slime or LivingEntity doenst matter

[worldly ingot]

You'll want to change the speed of the particle in that case

Sometimes particle speeds are stupidly high

Although if that's block break, I'm unsure if speed affects it

[kindred sentinel]

Hmm..

[charred blaze]

how do i set slime's size?

[quasi gulch]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Slime.html

When you cast it to a Slime you get all Methods and in the Javadocs you can see all the Methods

[kindred sentinel]

to slow particle make particles with negative offset?

[charred blaze]

between what numbers is slime size

[kindred sentinel]

No, It made things worse

[worldly ingot]

You probably just want this

world.spawnParticle(Particle.BLOCK, block.getLocation().add(0.5, 0.5, 0.5), 1, block.getBlockData());

[quasi gulch]

Try it out or google it most numbers are the same like in the minecraft wiki

[worldly ingot]

Or whatever the BlockData is you want to pass

[kindred sentinel]

Thanks!

Yes, but instead of Particle.BLOCK - Particle.ITEM_CRACK

[quasi gulch]

You should look into extends and implements of classes so you understand the difference of Entity LivingEntity and Slime. Slime implements all so it has all the Methods and its own

[worldly ingot]

Worst case, if that doesn't work for whatever reason, you can try this as well

world.spawnParticle(Particle.BLOCK, block.getLocation().add(0.5, 0.5, 0.5), 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, block.getBlockData());

(and if you're in a verison pre-1.20.5, I think the particle is actually called BLOCK_CRACK, it got renamed)

[kindred sentinel]

Well.. It spawns only 1 particle, and it's too fast

[worldly ingot]

Try the second one I mentioned then, and increase the "1" to something like 10

[kindred sentinel]

ok, thanks

[worldly ingot]

It's possible that block particle was changed so it actually respects velocity now

[potent ocean]

Anyone have a clue how to generate Minecraft structures using NMS.

[worldly ingot]

Shouldn't need to use server internals at all, we have API for it with the StructureManager

[potent ocean]

I'm trying to generate an Ocean Monument

[potent ocean]

Doesn't seem to be in the 1.20.6 API...

[worldly ingot]

It most definitely is :p I'm looking at it right now

[kindred sentinel]

Well, it works, but I think that it should have little speed

[worldly ingot]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/structure/StructureManager.html

[worldly ingot]

The 4th 0.0 is the speed argument so you can toy with that a little bit. Maybe 0.05 or 0.1

The three 0.0's before it are the offsets, it will spread out the particle from the source position

[kindred sentinel]

what about

                double velX = -0.5 + rand.nextDouble();
                double velY = 2.2 + rand.nextDouble();
                double velZ = -0.5 + rand.nextDouble();

no

[potent ocean]

Ah I've found it, thanks for the help IntellIJ wasn't showing it because yknow IntellIJ

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, you can put those in the first three 0.0 arguments if you'd like, but that will just give them a random offset in either direction

[worldly ingot]

Bukkit.getStructureManager() to get an instance of it 🙂

[potent ocean]

Yeah, I figured.

[kindred sentinel]

Well, like it do vanilla particles when you break block

[charred blaze]

when i click it once it sends me message twice

any idea why?

[worldly ingot]

Interact events fire once for each hand

[potent ocean]

That's just you.

[worldly ingot]

You have to account for that with event.getHand()

[potent ocean]

Yeah

[worldly ingot]

Generally people tend to skip over the off hand interaction (especially if it's an empty handed right click action), but it's up to you

[potent ocean]

I believe sometimes it could be a user, since the event will trigger if the right mouse is held down.

like multiple times.

[worldly ingot]

That is also possible as well, yes. But usually it's just a matter of checking for the hand

[potent ocean]

Usually for stuff like this people add a cooldown anyways. (esp for player interact events)

[kindred sentinel]

Thanks for help, it works!

[dawn flower]

this isn't a development question but i kinda fucked up and set my intellij idea font to max and now i can't reset it, does anyone know where intellij idea stores the settings?

[potent ocean]

Your app data

%appdata%/Roaming/IntellIJ

Jetbrains/Intellij

or whatever version you use

[kindred sentinel]

Finally I made something like custom block adder, lol

[potent ocean]

C:\Users\YOUR_USER\AppData\Roaming\JetBrains\IntelliJIdea2024.1\options
Would look something like this

[wintry oxide]

hi i'm getting this error while trying to create JSONObject, attached che pom the error here's the code:

JSONObject jsonObject = new JSONObject();
            jsonObject.put("name", "John");
            jsonObject.put("age", 30);
            jsonObject.put("city", "New York");

            // Add additional values
            jsonObject.put("married", true);
            jsonObject.put("children", new String[]{"Alice", "Bob"});

            // Specify the file name
            String fileName = "example.json";

            try (FileWriter fileWriter = new FileWriter(fileName)) {
                // Write JSON content to file
                fileWriter.write(jsonObject.toString());
                System.out.println("JSON content has been written to " + fileName);
            } catch (IOException e) {
                System.out.println("An error occurred while writing JSON content to the file: " + e.getMessage());
                e.printStackTrace();

[potent ocean]

I'd recommend doing fileWriter.flush()

and fileWriter.close()

But your issue is coming from JSON not being in ur jar file.

[wintry oxide]

ok but thats not the error

wdym

[potent ocean]

<scope>compile</scope>

add this to your JSON depedency

[wintry oxide]

where

ok

[potent ocean]

pom.xml

[wintry oxide]

yeye

gime a sec

[dawn flower]

the font size isnt in any of the files

[wintry oxide]

yo i still ge the same error

i did put compile

[potent ocean]

Are you building with artifact or maven?

[wintry oxide]

atifacts

maybe thats y?

[potent ocean]

Use maven.

Do maven clean

then maven package

[wintry oxide]

and the the original?

or normal file

[potent ocean]

What do you mean:

[wintry oxide]

i got two files

[glad prawn]

he's using try-with-resources bro.

[wintry oxide]

one is the name of the file itself and the other one is original-name

[potent ocean]

It's always best practice to close it .

[glad prawn]

? wtf

[potent ocean]

Use the non -original one

[glad prawn]

it does it for you

[wintry oxide]

ok

[potent ocean]

It's just my preference I guess.

From previous times not using the close method it caused issues.

@glad prawn yeah just as I thought if you don't close it, it will not write to the file.

[charred blaze]

is Skull considered as a block?

[quasi gulch]

yes

[charred blaze]

is everything a block that can be placed?

[potent ocean]

No.

[glad prawn]

[quasi gulch]

no like armor stands and so an that are entities

[charred blaze]

is everything a block that can be placed and are not entities?

[quasi gulch]

yes

i think

[charred blaze]

uhm

[quasi gulch]

what are you trying to achive?

if you want to check if its a block use instanceof Block

[charred blaze]

i want to check item's size

to create simillar hitbox

using slimes

and modifying sizes of slimes

[hushed spindle]

which particle replaced Particle.MAGIC in 1.20.5?

[quasi gulch]

ok when you need help show the code you having trouble with

[wintry oxide]

@potent ocean it worked thanks

very thanks

very very much

lov u

😘

[potent ocean]

no problems

[quasi gulch]

Do you mean the Enchantment Table Particles?

[hushed spindle]

no the particles that are released from like splash potions of harming

[quasi gulch]

Maybe Particle.SPLASH

[hushed spindle]

i think those are like the swirlies from regular splash potions

harming potions create more star-shaped effects

[quasi gulch]

Looks like Particle.CRIT maybe they just look the same

[hushed spindle]

they look somewhat similar but they dont behave the same

so i think its something else

crit particle disappear in just a couple of ticks but harming potions stick around for some time

[quasi gulch]

INSTANT_EFFECT

[hushed spindle]

oh likely yes

think thats the one

ty kind sir

[hazy parrot]

that is implied

smh i was scrolled

[hazy parrot]

also twr automatically closes Closeable when it runs out of scope

[potent ocean]

alrighty

[broken nacelle]

and about de googleapi (gson)?

nevermind

[wintry oxide]

alredy solved

[broken nacelle]

i didnt see the pom image

[wintry oxide]

but thanks anyway

[keen horizon]

so im making a plugin so you cant put a certain item in a chest but the problem is they can put it in their offhand before and swap it in when they are in the chest anyone know how i could see them swapping it into the chest

[worldly ingot]

You can listen for that with InventoryAction#HOTBAR_X actions. It includes the off hand

[slender elbow]

i don't have HOTBAR_X in my spigot

[crystal knot]

How can i create a entity from an EntityType ?

[slender elbow]

World#spawnEntity(Location, EntityType)

[eternal night]

switch to the bukkit dependency

spigot deprecated and removed it (god complex developers and all)

[golden turret]

how can i get the dropped items when calling the Block#breakNaturally(ItemStack) method?

[quaint mantle]

does anybody know which method i need to create mixins for to know when a block starts burning ?

[quasi gulch]

block.getDrops(ItemStack)

[golden turret]

not that

[shadow night]

what?

[quasi gulch]

Then BlockDropItemEvent

[quaint mantle]

im trying to recreate the BlockBurnEvent using mixins

[golden turret]

not called

[quaint mantle]

i think its this one Lnet/minecraft/block/Block;onBreak(Lnet/minecraft/world/World;Lnet/minecraft/util/math/BlockPos;Lnet/minecraft/block/BlockState;Lnet/minecraft/entity/player/PlayerEntity;)V

[shadow night]

Mixins?? Spigot got no mixins

[quaint mantle]

shi wrong server then

[quasi gulch]

Maybe ItemSpawnEvent?

[golden turret]

not accurate

[quasi gulch]

What do you mean?

[golden turret]

a plugin may call that event

and it doesnt need to be strticly a block drop

petition to make the Block#breakNaturally() methods also call the BlockDropItemEvent: 1/3

[quasi gulch]

What do you wanna do with these items?

[blazing ocean]

is the player location the foot location?

[quasi gulch]

i would think because theres an extra method to get the eye location but just try it out

[young knoll]

Yeah all entity locations are the bottom of their hitbox

[blazing ocean]

ty

[dawn flower]

get the eye location to be abit higher

[quasi gulch]

You can just get the Block Drops and give them a nbt Tag so you can identify them then spawn them where the block would drop them and set the block to air. Now you can identify the Items when you need them in whatever event

[dawn flower]

how do i build a project with 3 pom files (it's a forked plugin so dont blame me)

its refusing to build it with the libraries

4 poms actually

[quasi gulch]

just put everything into one

[dawn flower]

idk what they're using the 4 pom files for so it'll prob break stuff

[quasi gulch]

it breaks stuff now so you dont have a choice or?

I dont think you can use more than one pom

[dawn flower]

its kinda weird

some poms have the same libraries but with different scopes

[quasi gulch]

can you show the project?

/the poms

[young knoll]

Probably a multi module project

[dawn flower]

1 sec

[dawn flower]

im 99.99% sure its that

anyways how do u compile a multi module project

[eternal night]

gradle build

[dawn flower]

it's maven

[eternal night]

mvn package then

its more about what outputs you need

[dawn flower]

it aint compiling some libraries with it

[eternal night]

Well, are you shading them into the main project/output project

[dawn flower]

no

i think i fixed it

[eternal night]

👍

[dawn flower]

nvm

[eternal night]

they are listed as children in the root pom.xml ye?

[dawn flower]

no as modules

[eternal night]

Well yea

[dawn flower]

there's a bundle package that has the best pom out of them all

i think im supposed to do something with that

[eternal night]

is this a public repo? xD

[dawn flower]

yeah

[young knoll]

"Best pom"

:P

[eternal night]

link pls

[dawn flower]

the others dont make sense

https://github.com/erikzimmermann/TradeSystem

the rest have some "provided" libraries that dont exist in a typical server

[eternal night]

I mean, just mvn package should be fine here.

the output will be in the bundle's target folder tho

[dawn flower]

it doesnt compile the PacketManagement with it

[eternal night]

that is a thirdparty thing

[dawn flower]

yeah ik

[dawn flower]

im supposed to get the bundle target one?

[eternal night]

yea

[dawn flower]

im getting the root target..

[eternal night]

[dawn flower]

why would u even use a multi module project 😭

[eternal night]

why not?

[dawn flower]

it overcomplicates stuff

ayo it compiled properly

[eternal night]

I would not call multiple modules compilated ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worthy yarrow]

What defines a module?

[dawn flower]

i barely deal with one pom, imagine dealing with 3

[icy beacon]

a build file

and a parent build file that builds all modules is also needed

[worthy yarrow]

Hierarchy kinda thing?

[dawn flower]

wait isn't a multi module project just a project with inner libraries by technicality

[icy beacon]

you can put it that way

[worthy yarrow]

Simplest form I probably can

[icy beacon]

perhapssssssssssssssss

not sure if that's completely valid, i haven't worked with multi module projects myself, i just know the structure and the general idea

[kindred sentinel]

Does anyone know any plugin to custom mobs (like with model engine) for free?

[dawn flower]

your own plugin.

also #help-server

[worthy yarrow]

I'm pretty sure meg is one of a kind

[kindred sentinel]

meg?

[worthy yarrow]

model engine

[kindred sentinel]

Meh, it costs 20$

[worthy yarrow]

Couldn't tell you anything else that does what it does

For a 20$ single purchase for lifetime updates and simply the quality of meg aint that bad

• you can get support in their discord

(api / server side help btw)

[kindred sentinel]

Yeah, btw I'm not a holder of some kind of project/server so, I just wanted to test some thing with it

btw I found something like this

https://github.com/AtlasEngineCa/WorldSeedEntityEngine

[worthy yarrow]

Try it I suppose, I couldn't tell you which is better though I'd bet on meg

[worthy yarrow]

Maybe I'm wrong, idk lol

I never really pay attention to those comparisons

I'd rather decide based on experience with said project

[kindred sentinel]

hah fr

[nova notch]

You can use Animated Java datapack functions to do just models for free

[kindred sentinel]

Well.. Animated Java a little bit LAGGY

Animated Java made only with datapacks => Minecraft commands. Everything that made on minecraft commands is made on tick function => very laggy

[nova notch]

You said free so

[kindred sentinel]

Well hephaestus engine & world seed entity engine maybe a good replacement

[nova notch]

WSEE said it only works with Minestom

I am curious about the other one tho

[kindred sentinel]

So it may not work with spigot?

[nova notch]

If it says it only works in Minestom then I would take their word for it

It explicitly says it doesnt support Paper so I assume that would be the same for spigot

[kindred sentinel]

hmmm

If it really doesn't work with spigot, so, maybe I should give a try to hephaestus engine

[nova notch]

It does look interesting so I'm also gonna check it out later, but tbh your best option may just be model engine

Maybe test and compare model engine and hephaestus since model engine has a free version

If model engine is better, I'd just pay the $20 instead of spending tens or hundreds of hours on a half assed version of it

[kindred sentinel]

model engine has a free version?

[nova notch]

Yes but it has a 6 model limit or something like that

[kindred sentinel]

oh

[nova notch]

Maybe some other small limitations as well not sure

[kindred sentinel]

Poor devs of Model Engine it seems like a lot of people were complaining about that is not model engine 4

[slender elbow]

lol

[pseudo hazel]

you know how the console prints text in colors if you add chat colors and stuff to messages right? How do I turn that off

I am debugging some message parsing stuff and I wanna see the color codes in the message that gets sent

like the &3 whatever in the actual console

[rotund ravine]

Good luck

[pseudo hazel]

would you know any way I can actually see that string

because it either removes all the format information or it shows it in color

[quasi gulch]

just replace § with & and you can the the color code in the console or what do you mean?

[pseudo hazel]

oh that could work

oh that works

thanks 😄

[quasi gulch]

👍

[quiet ice]

does anyone happen to know Java 7 JDK vendors outside of azul?

[kind hatch]

openjdk?

[quiet ice]

that's unfortunately not a gradle toolchain vendor

And for whatever reason using Azul it decides to install Azul Zing which uhm I haven't heard about and doesn't work anyways

With not working I mean it instantly coredumps

[kind hatch]

Windows or linux?

[charred blaze]

how do i change java version of runServer task?

[eternal night]

I mean, its going to pick your projects toolchain

why is the toolchain not at java 21?

[quiet ice]

linux

[quiet ice]

mainly because the codebase is already written in Java 7 (last commit was 10 years ago, sooo yea).

[eternal night]

No that wasn't for you 😅

[kind hatch]

Did you download the regular azul jdk? Cause I think Azul Zing is something for their enterprise customers.

[charred blaze]

aint this java version

[eternal night]

that is your project sdk

the gradle toolchain is something different

can you share your build.gradle.kts?

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[charred blaze]

yes

https://paste.md-5.net/asakijutoy.cs

[quiet ice]

well I would like autoprovisioning to work. But I suppose I can always manually install the JDK

[eternal night]

-java {
-    toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(17))
-}
+java {
+    toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(21))
+}

also update the shadow plugin to https://plugins.gradle.org/plugin/io.github.goooler.shadow

[remote swallow]

lynx you love diffs dont you

[eternal night]

I do

[kind hatch]

What is autoprovisioning in this context?

[remote swallow]

what about big diffs or do big diffs hurt and you like the small diffs

[charred blaze]

oh... i was searching for that

[eternal night]

I work on paper

[charred blaze]

thanks

[kind hatch]

Paper doesn't have big diffs? 🤔

[quiet ice]

basically gradle downloading the JDK on the fly.

[remote swallow]

well

whats your answer

[quiet ice]

I guess I could use J8 and set the source and target versions appropriately

[eternal night]

I love all sizes of diff

[remote swallow]

what diff is the best

big medium or small

[eternal night]

medium hits the spot just right

[kind hatch]

Ah well, not sure how reliable that method is.
I always install the jdk manually.

I think IJ has some auto download stuff, but I hardly use it.

[eternal night]

I'd be surprised if any vendor under the sun (outside of zulu for whatever reason) still publishes java 7

given that shit has been EOL for so long, they'd have to maintain it themselves

[quiet ice]

AdoptOpenJDK used to support it but the dumdums over at eclipse killed that project

The AdoptOpenJDK -> Adoptium move was terribly executed

[eternal night]

I mean, isn't the jump to java 8 supposedly pretty seamless tho?

I'd get it to jump from java 8 to 9, that sounds like work

could also just use jdk 8 but configure source and target compatibility to java 7

[quiet ice]

I'm just the kind of person that will always use the lowest requirements necessary when creating/maintaining libraries so yeah

[kind hatch]

Is Java 7 still used though?

[quiet ice]

But I'll go with the JDK 8 + source and target compat 7 strategy

[kind hatch]

By like anyone?

[eternal night]

supporting java 7 sounds more like a security risk than a feature

[quiet ice]

The legacy minecraft community uses stone-age java versions, so I'd not be surprised

[kind hatch]

They can suffer

[wraith delta]

Would recommend going JDK 17+

[kind hatch]

Didn't minecraft run on java 6 at one point?

[wraith delta]

Most hosts are running between 17-19

[quiet ice]

Java 5 even

[kind hatch]

Sheesh

[quiet ice]

But good luck finding a Java 5 JDK lol

[quiet ice]

Can't go past JDK 8 unless I want to break windows builds lol (or just blindly cross-compile and hope that proton is a usable ABI compatibility test)

[eternal night]

quickemu up a windows instance

[kind hatch]

That's what compatibility targets are for no?

You can use a Java 17 install to develop with, but set the IDE rules to only allow version specific code to be written and complied.

[civic sluice]

format patch when?

[quiet ice]

Well only problem is that that is likely going to cease in a few years. Kindof like how you cannot build Java 6 maven projects anymore if you don't have a Java 11 JDK active

[turbid flame]

I just want to discuss something. Is it possible to create single player engine that allows players to see them and integrate with them only if needed. The purpose of this is skyblock server and it would allow creating island for every player at 0 100 0 and load chunks based on packets for each player individualy?

[quiet ice]

Many plugins use one world per player strategies for this

[trail coral]

how do i do something like:
Creeper creeper = get an instance of a creeper

[gusty gorge]

Why isn't this working?

val componentSerializer = MiniMessage.miniMessage()
val player = joinEvent.player
player.sendMessage( 
             componentSerializer.deserialize(ServerUtil.PREFIXES.get("general").toString())
)

What I am trying is to send a message on the player join but I am hit with the following error:

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'void org.bukkit.entity.Player.sendMessage(net.kyori.adventure.text.Component)'

[turbid flame]

Its not one world per player, the most stupid strategy i could think of

Its about sending world directly to one player and to each player send his individual world

Then save that

[eternal night]

you are running on spigot

while compiling against paper-api

[gusty gorge]

omfg, thanks

[turbid flame]

And if he connects to his island again load that island and send packets with that only to him

[quiet ice]

player sends his indiviual world in what sense?

[trail coral]

how do i "create" a livingentity instance

[turbid flame]

What?

Modify the engine that it send packets with individual world for each player

What do you think about that @quiet ice

[quiet ice]

what is the difference between that and one world per player if I may ask?

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[quiet ice]

in what sense does https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/RegionAccessor.html#spawn(org.bukkit.Location,java.lang.Class,java.util.function.Consumer) not work here?

[turbid flame]

You can create skyblock server very easily and efficiency

Server does not require as much resources

[quiet ice]

so basically one server per player?

[turbid flame]

Yea you have skyblock islands so every player have their each island on coordinates 0 100 0

[quiet ice]

Or something more akin to whatever paper's multithreaded fork is (begins with f, forgot the rest tho)

[turbid flame]

No one server

[bold gull]

Yo

Anyone can help me ?

[eternal night]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[eternal night]

sorry too fast

did not see you continue typing

[bold gull]

I have buyed itemadder paid plugin buy it is not working

[turbid flame]

When player join the server i load his skyblock island convert it to packet and send it to him ONLY and do that for every player

So basically i create singleplayer on multiplayer server

And if needed i add one player to another player world

[bold gull]

I have buyed itemadder paid plugin buy it is not working plz help anyone

[turbid flame]

go on itemsadder discord

[eternal night]

^

[turbid flame]

this channel is # HELP - DEVELOPMENT

[bold gull]

Link?

[eternal night]

https://itemsadder.devs.beer/

[turbid flame]

look for it

[eternal night]

on the page

[bold gull]

But I have buyed from here only spiggot

[eternal night]

spigot is just a market place

[turbid flame]

Yea we dont give a fuck

go ask there

[echo basalt]

Not a good approach

There are 3 main approaches to making per-player worlds / islands / whatever

One is to have a world per player

[green prism]

💀

[echo basalt]

You can easily serialize the entire world, but most plugins will struggle with encoding their data so you'll need to fork a lot of stuff

The other approach is to have a grid

If you don't care about sharding and just want a single server this is the ideal approach because you don't have to serialize anything and plugins work fine with this approach

It is however, not scalable

But it is what most public skyblock plugins do

[turbid flame]

I can program i will not be using other plugins

[turbid flame]

Why

[echo basalt]

The packet-based approach allows for a much higher player density per server but you have to re-implement and emulate most vanilla features

As in hijack every single mob to not target the players around you, collide with fake blocks

[turbid flame]

Yea i know that

[echo basalt]

Re-implement TNT, item dropping, liquids flowing, cobblestone and obsidian generation

[eternal night]

I'd argue its probably going to be less density with how shitty vanilla feature implementations are via the API

[echo basalt]

A proper big server I worked for had its entire prison division in a single server

All packet-based

[turbid flame]

I'll rewrite the whole engine

[eternal oxide]

The easiest and likely "best" implementations is islands in teh same world (spread out) and simply lock players to their own area.

[echo basalt]

It ran at like 5tps but everything was async so ppl couldn't bat an eye

[eternal night]

✨ async ✨

[echo basalt]

✨ async ✨ indeed

[eternal night]

tho prison at least is easier

[eternal oxide]

islands with an unbuildable area around each.

[echo basalt]

We had 1500 people in a single instance

[eternal night]

skyblock is near impossible

like, you are just doing glowstone level work

[echo basalt]

With the skyblock division they sharded it all

[eternal night]

yea

[turbid flame]

So it is possible and can make it work but everything need rewrite?

[eternal night]

its as possible as coding the server itself from scratch👍

[echo basalt]

Sounds like a hell lot of work for something that can be done in an afternoon with Slimeworldmanager

[turbid flame]

How is the hypixel skyblock handling this?

[echo basalt]

they use their own homemade slimeworldmanager

they made the damn thing to begin with

it's basically just their Housing system but with a different template

[turbid flame]

Could you tell me quick how is the slimeworldmanager working? What is it doing?

[echo basalt]

Instead of storing vanilla worlds with .mca files it's kept in memory and serialized to a database

https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-5-storing-your-skyblock-island.2190753/

[eternal night]

https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-5-storing-your-skyblock-island.2190753/

LOL

[echo basalt]

get sniped

[eternal night]

rekt me

[grave vale]

I have a feeling it's me being dumb, but why can't I do shadowJar with Shadow 8.1.1, Java 21 and Gradle 8.5?

[turbid flame]

That makes sense, it's great, then if player will enter island i can find least occupied server and load it there?

[eternal night]

shadow is not maintained anymore, at least your version

[grave vale]

oh

[blazing ocean]

use gooler/shadow

[echo basalt]

The server allocation strategy can be simple or complex

[eternal night]

https://plugins.gradle.org/plugin/io.github.goooler.shadow ^

[grave vale]

thanks!

[echo basalt]

You can pick the least occupied server, which guarantees less load per instance but you end up having to use more resources keeping more instances alive

You can also use the most occupied server which guarantees less resource consumption but more load per instance

[tall saffron]

Any tutorial on how i could make custom ores that spawn in the world? I already know how to make custom model texures, i want to know how to do the spawning stuff

[echo basalt]

You can go with a hybrid where each instance needs to meet a certain "fill level" before it switches to the next

[echo basalt]

Look into BlockPopulator

[grave vale]

worked great, thanks again

[tall saffron]

Thanks, will do!

[turbid flame]

Each of this strategies is great and have pros and cons

[echo basalt]

Yeah

[blazing ocean]

hypixel uses mongo???????????

[echo basalt]

These strategies then have to pair with your "cloud" server instancing system to spin up new servers on the fly to meet demand

To be able to manage player spikes of a certain magnitude

Let's say each server handles 10 islands, and you have a hybrid strategy where it fills each server from 0->5 and then fills the least loaded one

If you have 10 instances you can manage 100 islands

But you want to be able to handle a player spike of 50 islands, which is about half your capacity

So you need to start spinning up new servers to ensure that you always have that half capacity available

[blazing ocean]

k8s

[echo basalt]

Big networks are complicated!

(go figure)

[quaint mantle]

how can i change this?????

[turbid flame]

Everyrhing is possible i Just wanted to discuss whats the best

[blazing ocean]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[quaint mantle]

like to this

[blazing ocean]

go to papermc for velocity support

[turbid flame]

Never worked with skyblock and this complicated approach to be able to keep up with housends of players

[quaint mantle]

its an example

[blazing ocean]

still

[echo basalt]

Then there's the question of how you actually deal with all the infrastructure stuff

[blazing ocean]

you are using velocity

[quaint mantle]

i would like change the text on bungee cord

[quaint mantle]

no

[quaint mantle]

Simultaniously or saving their data?

[echo basalt]

https://builtbybit.com/threads/seeking-advice-or-service-on-data-synchronization-across-cloned-skyblock-servers.722709/#post-5024977

I made this little post here explaining a couple approaches

[blazing ocean]

well then why not show a ss from your actuak server.. also #help-server is probably where you wanna be at

(if you're not making your plugin)

[quaint mantle]

im gonna modify the code, but i dont know where is the part of that text

[quaint mantle]

Just fork your proxy

[turbid flame]

Simultaniously

[quaint mantle]

Whatever you’re using, bungee or velocity

[quaint mantle]

Split the gamemode through multiple instances

Share players’ progress through a proper database

[turbid flame]

Is there any fork with SlimWorldManager that supports 1.18 or 1.16?

[quaint mantle]

You will need to implement a serializer to support your database

So you can store players’ inventory, attritubes and such

Maybe stats and achievements

[echo basalt]

The modern one is a paper fork + plugin

Works on 1.20+

[turbid flame]

Yea i have all software on 1.18 and 1.16

So it would be the best for to work on that

Versions

[quaint mantle]

yeah, but where is the part of that text in the code

i cant find that

[quaint mantle]

Why not just always working on latest version?

[turbid flame]

i have all software on 1.18 and 1.16

[quaint mantle]

Is there a particular reason we are missing?

Yeah

[echo basalt]

update it

[turbid flame]

Nah too much time

[quaint mantle]

I am asking why it cannot be updated

[echo basalt]

says the one wanting to make packet-based skyblock

[quaint mantle]

Does it makes NMS calls and such?

[echo basalt]

mappings are already a thing

Since 1.14 iirc

[blazing ocean]

why you speaking in big text

[tall saffron]

lol

[turbid flame]

It is easier for me to write 300 000 lines of code engine from scratch then updating whole proxy and software

[tall saffron]

evade the question

[quaint mantle]

People using NMS should just PR to the server software so they don’t need to worry about updating to newer versions

What??

[turbid flame]

He can't read so i make the text bigger

[blazing ocean]

LMAO

[echo basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/littlebigplanet-sackboy-guy-wearing-suit-lbp-gif-26104575

[quaint mantle]

I thought they were serious

[turbid flame]

I literally made the text bigger and he understood

Just that

[eternal night]

Love the trolls

[turbid flame]

I am not trolling

[remote swallow]

if its in api you dont have to maintain it, anyone once they update will have access to it instead of having to wait for you to have time to update and then release an update

[blazing ocean]

since when is 1.16 latest kekw

[turbid flame]

that guy replied to my message where i answered his question

[quaint mantle]

Yeah, that’s what I mean

That’s why I pr’ed BlockState cloning to another location

[turbid flame]

If you worked for any company you know that if they code something they also stay on updated versions cuz it's easier and cheaper for them to use older software then updating

Still Java 8 is the most popular version of Java

Guess why

[blazing ocean]

that makes 0 sense what you just said

[turbid flame]

All the software stays on that and companies don't update

[blazing ocean]

you said the opposite as well

[remote swallow]

companies when 2052 rolls around and they cant use java 8 anymore

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-in-distress-emoji-sad-emoji-disappearing-emoji-disintegrating-seokvrse-gif-25237004

[turbid flame]

It might be because English is not my primary language, sorry for the inconvenient hope you understod what i meant

[quaint mantle]

It’s okay, it just seemed you were hallucinating being some googolplex developer

[turbid flame]

Java 8 is from 2014
Java 11 from 2018

Those 2 versions are used by 89% of the companies and entities. It is just cheaper and better to not update your software.

[blazing ocean]

ok

but it's different to games

because you tend to want the latest new cool feature and gameplay aspect

[iron spade]

https://prnt.sc/__n8A-FwZq7k

if (args.length > 3) sender.sendMessage(ChatColorHex.translateHexColorCodes(ChatColorHex.Color("cosmeticos-hats.no-hat-permission-other"))), item);

[turbid flame]

It is but you do not you don't take into account what versions the target audience in your country or those playing on your server uses. For me it's mainly 1.18 and for this reason alone, updating to 1.20 or switching only to 1.20 makes no sense

[turbid flame]

Since 1.16 you can do pretty nice things such as custom models, items, inventories you can basically create game in game

[chrome beacon]

too many )

[iron spade]

error item));

[turbid flame]

Bees were added in 1.15 but if they were added in 1.19 you could implement them on your own in 1.16

[blazing ocean]

how dare you call my beloved resourcepack magic fuckery nasty

[turbid flame]

No no

Bad word

Sorry

I thought nasty means something like "dope thing"

good thing

My bad

[blazing ocean]

it's the opposite lol

[turbid flame]

Yea

I know

[blazing ocean]

[turbid flame]

I missuderstood the word nasty i thought it meant something tottaly oposite

But yea to sum up for those reasons updating to 1.20 dont make sense

[iron spade]

https://prnt.sc/R3I850HWxKmZ

)) + item)

??

[pseudo hazel]

what is ChatColorHex

[plush sluice]

??? java ver 21

works on pc but this is on other one, got the code from vcs

[iron spade]

Minecraft Color & and RGB

[pseudo hazel]

bungee api chatcolor can already read hex colors

[iron spade]

yes

[pseudo hazel]

so what does the function Color do

[plush sluice]

anyone knows how can i fix it?

[civic sluice]

If you use IntelliJ update to 2024.1.1

[plush sluice]

ahh

the problem is that its updated

[civic sluice]

U sure?

[plush sluice]

yeah

just updated it like 20mins ago

[turbid flame]

@echo basalt if i could take a minute from you because i do not really understand one part of what is in here https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-5-storing-your-skyblock-island.2190753/

They store .slime file in SeaweedFS and Mongo in the same time or what? They say they do store it in SeaweedFS and then they say that "The Seaweed FID are stored in Mongo " i dont get it could you explain?

[echo basalt]

SeaweedFS is their file system

They store the file in the file system, and then store the index of the file system in mongo

Along with metadata

Isn't seaweedfs just self-hosted S3?

[turbid flame]

Yea it is

So basically it's like

SeaweedFS is an array
And Mongo DB keeps the index of the array?

[echo basalt]

seaweedfs is bucket storage

But sure just pretend that's your theory

[turbid flame]

Never worked with that and Amazon S3

[plush sluice]

ey, updated it before and when opening it shows 2023.03..

[storm crystal]

Is this an okay way to store constants as my keys that I want to use?

[civic sluice]

You clearly didn't then. Or at leas updated from an ancient version to a less ancient one.

[plush sluice]

100% i clicked update

because its no longer there

[civic sluice]

Not a valid namespaced key. needs a namespace and key.

[plush sluice]

any way to update from settings then?

[echo basalt]

Hm if NamespacedKey was an interface you could make the enum import it

[plush sluice]

found

[echo basalt]

Anyways that enum approach is flawed, go with a final class full of constants

[civic sluice]

I've no clue if IJ can only do minor updates itself. I always use the Jetbrains Toolbox for the updates.

[storm crystal]

I dont understand

[echo basalt]

public final class Keys {

  private Keys() {}

  public static final NamespacedKey WEAPON = NamespacedKey.fromString("myplugin:weapon");

}

[storm crystal]

but okay

[echo basalt]

And if you want to have a .values() or some kind of mapping, just make a static method and hold a collection

public final class Keys {

  private Keys() {}

  private static final Map<String, NamespacedKey> REGISTRY = new ConcurrentHashMap<>();

  public static final NamespacedKey WEAPON = register(NamespacedKey.fromString("myplugin:weapon"));


  private static NamespacedKey register(NamespacedKey key) {
    REGISTRY.put(key.getKey(), key);
    return key;
  }

  public static NamespacedKey getByKey(String key) {
    return REGISTRY.get(key);
  }

  public static Collection<Namespacedkey> values() {
    return List.copyOf(REGISTRY.values());
  }
}

[storm crystal]

okay, I understand

is it a valid approach to add manually constant keys even if there would be theoretically a lot of them?

like, let's say for each statistic (say 7) I'd have each elemental type of it (also 7)