help-development

[tender shard]

let's just all block this troll

I'm too old for this shit

[glass mauve]

lmao

[river oracle]

I've had him blocked

[glass mauve]

real

[storm crystal]

Im no magician to why health magically cant be over 2048

[river oracle]

He was around a few months ago

Or a year or something

[storm crystal]

that's another problem, whats your point

[river oracle]

Same story

[glass mauve]

you cant debug such a simple error?

then learn java

[storm crystal]

say it 20 more times, ill surely do it

[tender shard]

send full stacktrace and I can exactly tell you

[glass mauve]

stupid stays stupid

[storm crystal]

do I smell ad hominem

[remote swallow]

because thats what it says in spigot or bukkit.yml

[paper viper]

You need to go into spigot.yml and increase max health

Thats it

[storm crystal]

where is it

[paper viper]

Bro fr?

[remote swallow]

look in spigot.yml

[river oracle]

Shadow

[river oracle]

Can we get rid of the gui

[kind hatch]

I’m thinking of blocking at this point lmao

[remote swallow]

whos shadow

[river oracle]

The gateway is to low

[tender shard]

setHealth checks getMaxHealth(). so setMaxHealth first

[kind hatch]

Gateway?

Oh

Yea, your right

[storm crystal]

the file

where is it

[remote swallow]

on your server

[storm crystal]

the directory

[tender shard]

and now stop being so ungrateful for people who're here to help you

[glass mauve]

he wont stop

its been like this the last days

[kind hatch]

Just PR a deletion request. Strip all code. Md will approve very quick.

[storm crystal]

Im not holding you at gunpoint to help me, you said you were not going to help me, you still did it regardless

[tender shard]

editing that file is not needed

I already told why

[storm crystal]

thanks for another snippet I didnt ask for

[river oracle]

It's been like this since they joined

[tender shard]

setHealth(...) checks the output of getMaxHealth(). So, if you want to set health to 99999, simply first use setMaxHealth(99999) and then you can set the health to 99999

[glass mauve]

I am not surprised tbh

[tender shard]

oh damn I didnt know

[remote swallow]

he did it before

too

[tender shard]

yeah well blocked now

[paper viper]

Nope you need to increase it first in the spigot.yml if i am right

[storm crystal]

yeah

and it doesnt work

above 2048

lol

[glass mauve]

someone like this doesnt deserve the privilege to get help tbh
I never saw someone like him

[river oracle]

Only if setMaxHealth is capped

[tender shard]

I have just checked craftbukkit's code for CraftLivingEntity and it seems like that's not needed. Although I haven't tested it

[storm crystal]

sure, dont do it then

[glass mauve]

I am not 🤷‍♂️

[storm crystal]

again, where in the directory is Spigot.yml

I cant see it anywhere

[remote swallow]

its on YOUR server

the MINECARFT SERVER

[tender shard]

why is anyone even still responding to them? Even I got them blocked now and I only joined this chat 10 minutes ago lol

[storm crystal]

couldnt you have said it earlier

[remote swallow]

i did

[river oracle]

Because being angry is engaging I suppose

[remote swallow]

.

[tender shard]

haha true

[river oracle]

The internet is uniquely capable of entertaining rage

[glass mauve]

fr

[tender shard]

we really need a hall-of-fame channel for discussions like this

[glass mauve]

would love to see some background to such people, how do you even end like this

[river oracle]

This guy has been problematic since forever

Check his join date lol

Hasn't changed a bit

[river oracle]

Bad parenting usually

[paper viper]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Where+can+i+find+the+spigot.yml

[tender shard]

I remember that I also once was an annoying jerk. But at least I learnt (partly) from my past mistakes lol

[river oracle]

Same I mean we were all young at some point

Some just never grow up

[tender shard]

Everyone once was the youngest person on earth

but only few ever become the oldest

kinda strange

[river oracle]

Very profound observation

[storm crystal]

Oh no I keep talking to the guy I don't like, how dare he

[tender shard]

ikr? someone sold me a brain on another server

[river oracle]

Damn

[paper viper]

@tender shard
As i said it needs to be done in the spigot.yml

[glass mauve]

I know a person that could have some use for that as well

[river oracle]

My brother could

[remote swallow]

cant believe you smh

[river oracle]

... he hurt his brain in a math competition

He's in critical condition

[worthy yarrow]

The recent events are giving me cmarco vibes

[minor garnet]

        float yaw = (float) Math.toDegrees(Math.atan2(FRONT_DIRECTION.getZ(), FRONT_DIRECTION.getX()));
        yaw = (yaw + 360) % 360;```

im rotating a vector that is looking north (0, 0, -1), 45 degrees to the right and using this code, the value that is returning me is 315 and not 45, whats wrong?

[grizzled mountain]

What would all of you use to send a redstone signal from the plug-in? Toggle a block between a redstone block and something else? Or would that be a performance issue?

[tender shard]

lmao

[storm crystal]

whats another way of checking if PDC is null other than try and catch

[tender shard]

well if you want to change the GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH attribute, sure. but to change the max health of any existing living entity, you don't

[tender shard]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataContainer.html#has(org.bukkit.NamespacedKey,org.bukkit.persistence.PersistentDataType)

[paper viper]

You mean with setMaxHealth?

[tender shard]

yes

[paper viper]

Isnt that method deprecated?

[tender shard]

oh you're right, I have only checked craftbukkit, which ofc doesnt have the annotation

mb

[tender shard]

weird though. because the deprecated method will work regardless of spigot.yml

wonder why it's deprecated if the new method doesn't behave the same

[paper viper]

Prob bc it doesnt use the attribute system

[storm crystal]

thats just random spigot api post

[glass mauve]

its literally linking a method

the one you asked for

[storm crystal]

Id be half grateful if you linked me tutorial but thats just telling me to heck off

[glass mauve]

learn java

[storm crystal]

?

you said it like 3 times already

the more you say it the less I will listen to you

[glass mauve]

its just a simple method, use it like any other method

[tender shard]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

Codecademy - Learn Java: Interactive Java programming course from basics to more advanced concepts. Perfect for absolute beginners.
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
JetBrains Academy - Java Developer Track: Learn by doing with projects and challenges. It covers Java fundamentals to advanced topics.
https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/
Udemy - Java Programming Masterclass for Software Developers: Updated courses that cover Java 8 to Java 17 features. Suitable for those who prefer structured learning.
https://www.udemy.com/course/java-the-complete-java-developer-course/

For Intermediate to Advanced Learners:

Oracle Java Tutorials: The official guides by Oracle for Java programming—great for understanding the depth of Java.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
Baeldung - Learn Java and Spring: Focus on Spring Framework and modern Java technologies. Best for intermediate learners aiming to expand their knowledge.
https://www.baeldung.com/

Practice and Hands-on Learning:

Exercism - Java Track: Solve exercises and get feedback from mentors. Great for practicing coding skills.
https://exercism.io/tracks/java
LeetCode: Practice your coding skills and prepare for technical interviews with Java.
https://leetcode.com/

Free Resources and Documentation:

Java Programming and Documentation: A comprehensive collection of Java programming guides, tutorials, and API documentation.
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/

Community and Support:

Stack Overflow: A vast community of developers. Great for getting help with specific problems or understanding concepts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java
r/learnjava on Reddit: Join the community of Java learners and get advice, share resources, and discuss projects.
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjava/

Remember: Learning to program takes practice and patience. Don't hesitate to experiment with code and participate in community discussions. Happy coding! 🎉

[tender shard]

here's 4th time

seems like you're not very good at reading

shall I send it again in case you didnt understand yet?

?learnjava!

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/694661573125472256/998143126373941248/6n0v4g.gif

[storm crystal]

Im having issues with spigot api specifically

why else would I be there

[tender shard]

you can't even read javadocs

[storm crystal]

why are you doing this to yourself

like

do something else if you dont want to help

really

[tender shard]

I did help you, you simply don't understand

I sent you the exact method to use

[glass mauve]

you asked for a different way, then someone shares a different way in form of a method
you just lack java knowledge to know how to use that method
java is a requirement for plugin dev

[tender shard]

which is PersistentDataContainer#has(NamespacedKey, PersistentDataType<?,?>)

i even sent you the javadocs for this exact method

but you called it "random api post" and didnt read it

[storm crystal]

its not the kind of help I was looking for

more like an answer to my question that's concrete and precise

[glass mauve]

lmao

bro wants spoonfeed

[storm crystal]

I started it without knowing java first and im still doing it

[tender shard]

ah you want someone else to code for you? sure, I can do that for 125€/hour

[storm crystal]

got a problem?

[glass mauve]

well you asking a lot of beginner questions therefore

[storm crystal]

125 euro for you slacking off?

I already got it for free

[tender shard]

I'd make more money doing my main job

[storm crystal]

then do it?

do you want to flex or feel better about yourself

or what

[glass mauve]

we just want you to leave tbh

and come back after growing up and learning java

[tender shard]

but I already am doing my job

[storm crystal]

I quit java plugin making because oop sucks but got a new idea that I wanted to try out

so far im doing good

so I wont quit thats for sure

[tender shard]

nah I just want you to learn to read

[tender shard]

it's really not that hard

[storm crystal]

I dont think you understand

[tender shard]

apparently you're able to write, so how can you be so resistant to being able to read

[storm crystal]

at this point I will specifically not appreciate or care about your help if it's not very concrete or in form of a precise answer, because of how you treated me

[tender shard]

thank you!

[storm crystal]

I have no idea how many times I have to repeat it

or if I have to use simplier words for that

If you don't want to help, don't do it

[glass mauve]

well you cant read the easiest messages as well

[storm crystal]

you clearly dont like me, I dont like you either, so whats the point of forcing yourself to do it

[remote swallow]

"i wont take ur help unless you spoonfeed me the code"

[storm crystal]

throw n'th ad hominem by calling me illiterate again

[tender shard]

tbh I don't think anybody here likes you after having talked to you more than 3 minutes

[storm crystal]

I ask question I want answer, I took my attempts and Im most apparently just tired of failure so I want to get out of it as soon as possible

whats so weird in that

[glass mauve]

nah, we literally gave you the exact method with complete description for your problem and you are stupid enough to not get it

[remote swallow]

you got given javadocs of exactly what you wanted

[storm crystal]

how come everyone help me, still

[tender shard]

it's some kind of insider challenge below us people who can read

"who's the first to make Dusk Taler read the javadocs"

[storm crystal]

javadocs and "learn java" or "learn to read" for n'th time, very helpful for my spigot problem

[remote swallow]

javadocs for spigot

they help everyone that knows java and spent time to figure out what they mean

[glass mauve]

javadocs are pretty helpful, especially if we even link the exact method

[tender shard]

guys maybe we should explain it to him in voicechat as he clearly isn't able to read

he's somehow able to write but can't read

[remote swallow]

my ears would die

[tender shard]

no idea how that's possible

[glass mauve]

I doubt he is going to find vc while not being able to read

[storm crystal]

cool, idc

[worthy yarrow]

Here's a problem that isn't solved with javadocs: how to optimize my usage of runnables in order to lighten the load of my process 😄

[tender shard]

and thankfully he doesn't want me to help anymore anyway so I'm also out lol

[remote swallow]

?workdistro

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-on-workload-distribution-or-how-to-handle-heavy-splittable-tasks.409003/

[storm crystal]

haha, because you know, degradation of another person is legal as long as its someone who you dont like

[worthy yarrow]

Uh

That's a thread

[remote swallow]

its just like marco, all of us just need to block him and ignore

[remote swallow]

check the main post

[glass mauve]

you kinda caused it yourself

[worthy yarrow]

I'm just being semantic :p

[storm crystal]

no, that's exactly your and only your choice of action

and you chose to show that you are no better than anyone, including me, here

[tender shard]

yeah I already blocked him but I still can't resist to always click on "show message" to get a laugh

[worthy yarrow]

yes

[remote swallow]

i remove my ability to do that lol

[storm crystal]

at the end of the day you are the one to lose time

[glass mauve]

nah I really am not

[worthy yarrow]

Time is an illusion o_O

[storm crystal]

is that so, why do you keep helping me then

[tender shard]

ImIllusion is an illusion. at least he claims so himself

[worthy yarrow]

Hmm

[remote swallow]

hes an illusion maybe

[tender shard]

if he keeps helping you, why do you complain about nobody helping you lmao

[storm crystal]

I dont remember doing that

so far you are the one complaining about helping me, while being not forced to do it by any means

its kinda like masochism

[slender elbow]

my brother in christ just shut the fuck up if you are gonna be ungrateful to the people trying to helpyou

[elder dune]

Hey im looking for some help

So I am creating a plugin that has diffrent GUI in it
but when I run x command it shows my GUI but with nothing in it.

anyone got any Idea on what would be causing this ? (Yes I have setup the GUI)

[storm crystal]

I have every right in the world to say that I am not satisfied

[glass mauve]

we arent complaining about helping you, we are complaining about you getting help and not actually looking at it

[worthy yarrow]

Show tha code!

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[river oracle]

also any errors ^

[worthy yarrow]

that too

[storm crystal]

hey, you decided to do it yourself, so dont expect me to be automatically grateful

[tender shard]

yes, but not here

being here is a priviledge and not a right lol

[worthy yarrow]

Can the argument move out of #help-development so we can provide adequate help in regards to development 😛

[storm crystal]

what is it now, 1984 or what

[river oracle]

@worldly ingot this needs to be over with

[glass mauve]

yeah I know, but you get the perfect fitting answer to your question and still asking for better

[storm crystal]

fair enough

[elder dune]

Main: https://paste.md-5.net/otazajepoh.java
Command: https://paste.md-5.net/aqowacuvoy.java
GUI Class: https://paste.md-5.net/edukukalut.cs

[worthy yarrow]

Ty for understanding ❤️

[river oracle]

is their any error?

[elder dune]

I have no errors

[river oracle]

whats the specific problem

[worthy yarrow]

When he opens the gui, it doesnt get populated

[river oracle]

ahh

[storm crystal]

is there any other way to program skillshots or hitboxes by not using armorstands?

[river oracle]

their are no players online in onEnable

also you have one inventory for multiple players

you need to deepen your understanding of java tbh. I might reccomend reading up on objects and how they work. Your current system replaces your only instance of Stats GUI for every player online

[storm crystal]

speaking of instances I dont understand why in my old code I used to pass plugin everytime while classes work just fine without it passed at all

when is passing plugin into a class necessity

[glass mauve]

when you use it

[storm crystal]

some examples?

[glass mauve]

uh yeah

give me a sec

[elder dune]

Iv been out the game for awhile only just coming back in too it so yeah im rusty as fuck xD

[worthy yarrow]

Eg: you have a private list in one class with a public getter, you pass instance of that class to wherever you need access to that list

[tender shard]

Perfect answer tbh

[glass mauve]

or you need to have access to some Plugin methods

[glass mauve]

not really tbf

[worthy yarrow]

plugin.getConfig is quite popular :p

[storm crystal]

how to pass plugin to static class

[glass mauve]

dont, try to avoid static generally

[tender shard]

How so? You pass things if needed and you don‘t if it‘s not needed

[worthy yarrow]

What if it's a bridge class

[storm crystal]

I didnt ask if I should

[worthy yarrow]

Maybe you don't need the instance in that class but it's the class that needs to pass the instance?

[glass mauve]

do you really want it on static class level or in a static method?

[storm crystal]

Whats the difference

[tender shard]

But Then it is needed

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah technically

But in the thought of having an instance literally to just pass it

[storm crystal]

That sentence has no sense

[glass mauve]

it does, but could have been written better imo

[tender shard]

Makes perfect sense to me

[storm crystal]

Why would I need instances of method that sets up PDCs

I wouldnt

[worthy yarrow]

I was talking about class instances but sure

[storm crystal]

Class is static too

Whatever

Just no instances

[worthy yarrow]

I mean di is pretty easy and reliable

[storm crystal]

I hate object programming

[glass mauve]

well you make it harder than it is

[storm crystal]

Functions and structs are way more readable

[worthy yarrow]

It's up to you to make your functions readable tbf

Comments exist too

[storm crystal]

No java inherently sucks

[glass mauve]

a good method doesnt need comments, method name should be explain what it is doing (kinda)

[glass mauve]

many disagree

[storm crystal]

So does entire idea behind oop

[worthy yarrow]

BRUH

NAH

[storm crystal]

Name me like 3 reasons why oop is a good implementation

[river oracle]

you have to be an expert to make those conclusions imho

you are inexperienced

so you can't really make informed conclusions

[remote swallow]

dusk seems like a boilerplate hater

[storm crystal]

Well then convince me its the other way

[river oracle]

convincing someone who has a disposition against something is a fruitless endeavor

[worthy yarrow]

I have a book that names 1400 pages of reasons

[river oracle]

tbf to him OOP isn't perfect

[storm crystal]

Cool, name them

[river oracle]

but it also isn't trash and horrible

[glass mauve]

hating on smth without having deep understanding of a topic lol

[worthy yarrow]

Bahaha

[remote swallow]

i find it funny tho, hes in another discord asking about bash courses with excersize, so will learn bash but wont learn java

[worthy yarrow]

if bash is better than java then I quit

[storm crystal]

Least stalking person

For your curiosity I needed it for classes

And for everday use

It sucks but only because its archaic for sake of reverse compatibility

[worthy yarrow]

I think you'd have fun designing a website with ruby

[remote swallow]

for everyone else i think youll find this funny

[worthy yarrow]

what is a -0?

[storm crystal]

Wow because you know, I asked for help on Arch discord, amazing

[river oracle]

how did you install arch?

[storm crystal]

How dare I have poor experience with using packages

[storm crystal]

Archwiki?

[river oracle]

I'm surprised

[glass mauve]

wait he can read?

[tender shard]

wtf

[storm crystal]

I need sturdy linux instance for my work

[river oracle]

just use windows server

linux is outdated anyways

[storm crystal]

I also dislike the direction windows is going

[remote swallow]

all the pros run windows server

[storm crystal]

Cool I dont care

Ill still use it

[river oracle]

how tf do you survive without windows server

[storm crystal]

?

[tender shard]

Nah they install windows 7 on a vps

[river oracle]

windows server is literally crazy good

you should try it out

[storm crystal]

Are you like okay on your head

[river oracle]

puts linux to shame

[remote swallow]

what about vista

the us government prob still runs vista

[river oracle]

yeah I love powershell and batch

[storm crystal]

You dont even know what I do

[tender shard]

Right, my bad! It has those fancy widgets

[storm crystal]

And think its necessity for me

[river oracle]

whatever it is you can probably just use Windows Server

if you have an employer not on windows server

they should switch

[remote swallow]

fr

[worthy yarrow]

If you're asking questions about a subject then clearly you aren't the all mighty knower of said subject... other people might know more man

[tender shard]

Tbf many hospital devices still run on win 3.1

[remote swallow]

whens pineapple getting windows server

[storm crystal]

I dont work

[river oracle]

makes sense

[storm crystal]

Relevance?

[river oracle]

so you need linux for work but don't work

[glass mauve]

all your question

[storm crystal]

Schoolwork to be specific

[river oracle]

ahh tell your school to switch to windows server

[glass mauve]

especially saying 'no' after getting an answer lol

[storm crystal]

Name me 5 reasons and ill consider it

[worthy yarrow]

This guy

[storm crystal]

Bold of you assume ill trust everything on the internet this easily

[worthy yarrow]

You came here for help...

[glass mauve]

well then dont ask

[storm crystal]

Dont answer haha

[glass mauve]

wut?

[worthy yarrow]

Don't ask if you're going to refute everything anyone tells you?

[glass mauve]

you ask a question and no one should answer?

[storm crystal]

Not on everything

[river oracle]

1. Powershell is better than bash
2. The GUI is easy to use
3. Ease access to remote in vs SSH (Trash)
4. Much better admin controls
5. Automation, very fast

[worthy yarrow]

damn outplayed

ggwp

[eternal night]

thanks chatgpt

[remote swallow]

all the homies hate ssh

[river oracle]

I wrote this myself

fuck you

[eternal night]

my condolences

[remote swallow]

he did write it himself

i was here

[storm crystal]

1. sounds like "X is better than Y because I said so"
2. is preference

[worthy yarrow]

We were watching

[river oracle]

its actually not

its how it is

look at the industry right now everyone uses windows server

[eternal night]

I forgot that miles failed to configure his java 21 module to compile to java 17.

[river oracle]

even paper runs all their stuff on windows server

[eternal night]

Why did I expect anything

[storm crystal]

I dont give a shit in industry

[remote swallow]

lynx you use windows server dont you

[eternal night]

obviously wtf

[river oracle]

I found out it was my IDE 😆

[eternal night]

windows server is the only place I believe to be secure and stable enough to run my servers

[river oracle]

Plus Windows Server will have AI integration soon

[storm crystal]

You sound obsessed with it so I will specifically avoid it for the sake of people like you

[river oracle]

so you can spend less time managing your server

[eternal night]

Exactly, copilot can just configure the whole thing for you

[tender shard]

dude, as I already said, Windows Server is stupid. Use Windows 7 on your VPS!!1

[eternal night]

doubt uwuntu can do that

[river oracle]

wdym people like me

I am an intelectual

thank you very much

[worthy yarrow]

I'll buy that when CabernetMC comes out

[river oracle]

CabernetMC was a joke dude

...

[remote swallow]

nah

[tender shard]

only cmarco is an intellectual. everyone else is just... someone else

[worthy yarrow]

I know

[remote swallow]

cabernet mc hired the windows server devs

[eternal night]

No one else got that cmarco certificate

[tender shard]

really? am I the only one that gone one?

[eternal night]

He had one too

[tender shard]

proudest moment of my life

[storm crystal]

Is there a way to list entities that are in R radius around a specific location

[tender shard]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getEntities()
then filter by location (distanceSquared <= radius*radius)

[eternal night]

Use https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getNearbyEntities(org.bukkit.Location,double,double,double) for the initial fetch over World#getEntities, its faster

[tender shard]

oh yeah that is better

[storm crystal]

Not from you, dont waste time

[eternal night]

[tender shard]

when was that added? do you maybe know?

[river oracle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getEntities()
then filter by location (distanceSquared <= radius*radius)

[eternal night]

getNearbyEntites??

forever

[tender shard]

I'm not wasting my time, I'm having fun here

[eternal night]

that thing isn't radius based tho

[tender shard]

ah then I confused it with getting blocks in radius I think

[remote swallow]

lynx you missed out on some funny stuff earlier

[eternal night]

Yea that might be it

ah no, not the funny stuff

[remote swallow]

@worldly ingot wakey wakey

[tender shard]

dw just check Dusk's last messages if you care lol

[river oracle]

he's working at hypixel

[worldly ingot]

Nah I'm actually working on updating the component PR :p

[river oracle]

oh

[eternal night]

It'll land

[worldly ingot]

IT'S READY NOW!

Zocker wrote the ASM for me ❤️

[eternal night]

Are at least all the subclasses and methods named the same

[river oracle]

spigot getting components before the heat death of the universe???

[eternal night]

so we can write the deprecate generator quicker

[worldly ingot]

wow

rude

[eternal night]

Sorry 💔

[remote swallow]

read up like half an hour to 45 min

[river oracle]

can we rename every class in Bungee Chat API

please

for no specific reason

[storm crystal]

How to not get same entity twice

[eternal night]

What

[worldly ingot]

I was talking with Mach a couple months ago and said you'd probably just end up deprecating the Components interface and method as a whole, which is probably fine

So you'd just have to deprecate components() and $Components

[eternal night]

Oh yea, okay nice

[tender shard]

just add a relocation into the bungee chat pom.xml like craftbukkit does for the package name 🥲

[eternal night]

less work, that upstream update is going to be massive

[worldly ingot]

It's a bit chonky, yes

[eternal night]

urgh I still have to write the spigot issue for ItemType.Typed's removal

tomorrow job

[storm crystal]

If I use it periodically every time moving location a bit

[worldly ingot]

why do you wanna remove it? We just got a new toy?

[remote swallow]

choco if you want a tldr of whats been going on for like 45 min its we all tell dusk to learn java or give help/javadoc links and then he complains its not good enough help and that, now he just complains when he gets any help

[tender shard]

Entity sameEntity = myFirstEntity;

// "not from you" comment incoming

[storm crystal]

What is this supposed to mean

[eternal night]

Well, item meta being kinda iffy in terms of hierarchy means tying ItemType's directly to an interface is bleh

If you are working on components I am sure you ran into written_book

[tender shard]

an answer to your question on how to get the same entity twice

[worldly ingot]

But Paper was literally the one that proposed a typed interface!

[eternal night]

Yea ikr

that was before .5

[river oracle]

wdym by this? It wasn't merged

[eternal night]

it was

[river oracle]

not into master?

[eternal night]

couple days ago

[river oracle]

really?

[eternal night]

yes to master right?

[worldly ingot]

ItemType and BlockType are on master, yes, but it's extremely primitive and still internal

[eternal night]

Yea they are all @Internal

[river oracle]

oh so I can not update my API is what you're saying

[remote swallow]

919 bukkit miles

[eternal night]

so you cannot use them

[worldly ingot]

It was a way for us to clean up the mess of switches in Material

[storm crystal]

Um

I asked opposite

[eternal night]

but yea, like, technically every ItemType.Typed would have to be what, BookMeta now?

[storm crystal]

I shouldve probably said how not to get

[eternal night]

so thats stupid

[storm crystal]

Instead of how to not get

[worldly ingot]

Why's that? Because anything can be a book?

[eternal night]

Yea

[worldly ingot]

Right

[eternal night]

like, tying the item type to its meta representation is kinda not cool

[worldly ingot]

I still think ItemMeta is insufficient as a concept for what Mojang likely has planned but I mean... y'know... different issue I want to tackle

[tender shard]

my bad, I misread

[eternal night]

I don't think md will remove it tho because yea, he has a different view on itemmeta

[storm crystal]

Like

[eternal night]

and he'd have to kinda agree that ItemMeta is failing since .5, which I doubt will happen

but better try and fail then not try at all

[storm crystal]

I get radius of 2, move location .5 blocks, do it again etc

[river oracle]

this is why we jump ship to CabernetMC

[storm crystal]

How could I avoid listing same entity twice

[tender shard]

if you got a list of entities, use stream().distinct()

[storm crystal]

Do I look through hash map and if it is in here I just not add it or what

[eternal night]

(or just add them to a Set)

[tender shard]

    List<Something> listWithoutDuplicates = listWithDuplicates.stream()
     .distinct()
     .collect(Collectors.toList());

[storm crystal]

Its not list

I mean hashmap

[tender shard]

(don't stop the fun dude, you're missing the insider jokes from the last 30 minutes)

[eternal night]

im sorry, im tired

[tender shard]

are the entities the keys or the values?

[storm crystal]

Values?

[tender shard]

is that a question or an answer?

Map<K,V>
K are the key types
V are the value types
(obviously)

[storm crystal]

Why would I put them as keys?

I know what a hashmap is

[tender shard]

what do I know what you're doing

[storm crystal]

What are you on

[tender shard]

37.5mg venlafaxin per day

you?

[unkempt peak]

lmao

[glad prawn]

then map.values().stream()...

[storm crystal]

Im healthy

[tender shard]

I really don't think so, but I'm also not a doctor

[storm crystal]

Severe body dysphoria doesnt count its not curable

[tender shard]

ok

[storm crystal]

Is it possible to turn hashmap to set

[tender shard]

sure

Set<Entry<K,V>> or Set<K> or Set<V>?

[storm crystal]

?

[tender shard]

do you want a set of all entries, or just the keys, or just the values

[storm crystal]

Why would I want just keys or variables

[tender shard]

please learn to read

why do you want to turn a map into a set in the first place

sorry but I can't read your mind

[storm crystal]

"Learn to read"

[storm crystal]

You dont radiate as a prime example of how one should read, either

[tender shard]

        Map<String,Integer> map = new HashMap<>();
        Set<Map.Entry<String,Integer>> setWithEntries = map.entrySet();
        Set<String> setWithKeys = map.keySet();
        Set<Integer> setWithValues = new HashSet<>(map.values());

three possibilities

how am I supposed to know which one you need

[storm crystal]

If im using map I want entire map

Come on

[tender shard]

entrySet() then

[tender shard]

do you have some kinda disorder that makes you think that everyone can read your mind or sth

[storm crystal]

I hate datatypes in java so much

[storm crystal]

I expect common sense

Too much?

[tender shard]

it's totally valid to e.g. turn a Map<K,V,> into a Set<K> or a Set<V>. It depends on the use case, yk

as said, if you want a Set<Entry<K,V>>: Simply do Set<Map.Entry<String,Integer>> setWithEntries = map.entrySet();

[river oracle]

how can you expect something you lack

[storm crystal]

Yeah thats what I hate, all those weird possibilities that I hate in java

[remote swallow]

watch him want a Set<Map<>>

[tender shard]

quite common, trust me, my boyfriend works in a psychiatry

[storm crystal]

In python you can shove everything into a list and call it a day

[storm crystal]

Believable source

[tender shard]

a list is not a set though

you asked for a set

[storm crystal]

Sounds like friend of my uncle of my dog or something between those lines

[storm crystal]

Just saying python is more convenient with data types

[tender shard]

you can do that in java too

[storm crystal]

Sure

[tender shard]

it's simply not strictly typed

[storm crystal]

And thats amazing lol

[river oracle]

then go back to python

and stop complaining about your clear ignorance

[tender shard]

if you think so. Many people think that it's a huge disadvantage to have lose / no types

[remote swallow]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/pyspigot.111006/

[tender shard]

why not directly use Lua if you dislike strict typing

[quaint mantle]

why is PlayerTeleportEvent#getTo() nullable

in what context would it be null

[river oracle]

some weird edge cases lol idfk fully tbh

i wonder if java docs say

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[river oracle]

does not wow

[storm crystal]

I cant do plugins in python for mc

[tender shard]

good question. the method is inherited from PlayerMoveEvent, where it also makes little sense that getTo is nullable

[tender shard]

ofc you can

[quaint mantle]

when would playermoveevent getto be null

[tender shard]

yeah as said, I also wonder

[storm crystal]

Ah yes the "if you believe hard enough itll happen" case

[nova notch]

Man if you hate java so much just use skript or some shit

[tender shard]

https://github.com/Macuyiko/minecraft-python

[storm crystal]

Its awful

[nova notch]

Then don't complain and learn java

[tender shard]

he ignored ?learnjava 27 times already

dw about him

[nova notch]

Damn

[tender shard]

I only reply to him at all because I'm bored

everyone else already got him blocked

[storm crystal]

Another layer of abstraction sucks for my cause

[tender shard]

is there anything in life you have not complained about yet?

[storm crystal]

Ill learn what I find like I need

[nova notch]

Use datapacks then ffs

Hell even command blocks

[tender shard]

honest question

[storm crystal]

They suck

And im pretty sure they are more troublesome and difficult than actual Java

[nova notch]

Exactly

[tender shard]

yeah everything's shit, everything sucks, and you hate everyone, we get it

[storm crystal]

Honest answer: take a guess

[tender shard]

my guess is ofc "no"

hence I asked

[storm crystal]

So you wish me the worst

[tender shard]

all we wish is that you shut up or adjust your tone a bit

[river oracle]

I'd prefer if he just left and asked stupid questions elsewhere kekw

[storm crystal]

I didnt complain at my friend when he took wrong tent and I had to call an uber in pretty cold night, thats the most recent thing I can remember

[tender shard]

I remember when I hated java because I was too stupid to understand OOP properly. I think that's pretty normal at the beginning. But that's the perfect time to buy a book and learn to properly understand it and then you'll stop hating it so much

[storm crystal]

Nobodys forcing you to help me

You dont like my tone, dont talk to me

You are doing it yourself, you said it yourself, come on

If ure bored really do something else

[tender shard]

that's so oddly specific that it leads me to the assumption that you complain about at least 99% of things then

[storm crystal]

buy a book

[unkempt peak]

Do you really think anyone is going to help you dude?

[storm crystal]

Ohno, you assumed something bad about me

[tender shard]

yes, what's wrong with books? They are there to learn things

[storm crystal]

Thats okay

[storm crystal]

Ofc

[tender shard]

with that attitude, you can be happy that you haven't gotten timed out or kicked

[kind hatch]

That's wild

[storm crystal]

Books are outdated too fast for programming

[tender shard]

my favorite java book is up2date for java 21

also ebooks exist

[kind hatch]

I can't tell if it's boderline entitlement, a complete troll, or they are just an asshole.

[unkempt peak]

Honestly i feel bad for you man, everything in your life is just miserable

[tender shard]

I think it's just CMarco with a new initial prompt

[kind hatch]

lmao

What if?

[storm crystal]

Im more than I could ever be happy with my life right now

[tender shard]

who knows lmao

[storm crystal]

Its funny how you follow halo effect so blindly

[tender shard]

that's great. So you still got any specific spigot coding question right now?

[storm crystal]

How much overhead do schedulers add if mc is single threaded?

[river oracle]

depends

[tender shard]

the scheduler itself? next to nothing

the task it runs? depends what your tasks do

[storm crystal]

Checkmate, lol

[tender shard]

I mean that's a bit like asking "how much taxes do I have to pay?" - yeah well depends on how much you make, obv

earn nothing = pay nothing
earn big = pay big

same for the tasks you're running

[nova notch]

What book?

[tender shard]

it's only available in german iirc unfortunately. "Java ist auch eine Insel"

[storm crystal]

If statements

[nova notch]

Damn alright

[storm crystal]

And animations

Or damage over time

[tender shard]

very much overhead

I can tell that because your code is probably pretty bad, judging by your inability to properly answer questions

"if statement"

lemme give you an example:

if(true) // Very fast
if(somethingThatTakesVeryLong()) // Not so fast

so yeah, so much about "if statements"

[storm crystal]

How nice of you

[storm crystal]

You dont have to, Im convinced not to look at it

[tender shard]

not trying to be mean, it was just an observation

[tender shard]

no problem

[storm crystal]

Whats the point of looking at code if mine is shit anyway

[tender shard]

you don't have to read answers just because you ask questions. But then, why waste your time asking questions

[storm crystal]

I expected different answer

A one thats a bit less judgemental based on halo effect

[tender shard]

you won't get a different answer from someone else

[storm crystal]

I might try

[tender shard]

ok @river oracle your try

how long do if statements take

[river oracle]

Well it depends

let me give you an example

if(true) // Very fast
if(aVeryLongMethod()) // Not so fast

[slender elbow]

damn that's so real

[tender shard]

interesting

[kind hatch]

I love this server

[river oracle]

@storm crystal was my answer satisfactory

or are you going to continue being a whiny bitch

[tender shard]

I think he needs a third opinion

@slender elbow your turn?

[eternal night]

emily's if statements always take long

[storm crystal]

With that mocking attitude of yours I will gladly continue wasting your time on purpose

[slender elbow]

yeah, my AMD Athlon takes long to process all ifs

[quaint mantle]

if(true) // Few insturctions
if (threadBlockingMethod()) // Few insturctions

[river oracle]

fine by me I don't have anything to do till 8

[eternal night]

Single bytecode instruction bout to take a full second

[slender elbow]

:sadge:

[storm crystal]

Define a very long method

[river oracle]

depends

let me give you an example

[slender elbow]

downloading a 2 gb file from google drive, for example

[storm crystal]

Is checking if variable is less or equal than or using for loop resource consuming

[eternal night]

what kind of files are you downloading emily

[river oracle]

public void veryLongMethod() {
  // Database call
}

public void veryLongMethod() {
  // Conversation with DuskTaler
}

[slender elbow]

a zeroed out 2gb file

[quaint mantle]

homework archive

[eternal night]

omg my fav

[tender shard]

fun myVeryLongMethod() { Thread.sleep(999999999) }

here, I wrote it in kotlin since you obv dont like java

[kind hatch]

That very question is answered in any beginner level java book. :p

[eternal night]

does kotlins Thread.sleep not throw InterruptedException

[river oracle]

you have to be careful with the second one because it might if you call such a high load bearing method it might freeze the server

[slender elbow]

kotlin doesn't care about exceptions

[eternal night]

right

kotlin

[tender shard]

idk but it doesnt require catchibg exceptions

[slender elbow]

peak error handling

[storm crystal]

Cool, I dont care about books that are not about operating systems

[tender shard]

they're all unchecked

[eternal night]

mb for a second I thought that this was a language

[tender shard]

no

this is patrick

[river oracle]

we get it you can't read

I'm so sorry you were never taught

you know some people read for fun!

[nova notch]

"I'm too cool to learn that basic stuff"

[storm crystal]

I love legalization of degradation because of being ostracized

[tender shard]

imagine not liking books

[river oracle]

I agree

[kind hatch]

I mean, why do you have to come in with an attitude?

We could have avoided all of this

[river oracle]

especially when people deserve it :P

[tender shard]

Imagine

[eternal night]

Pretty sure degradation is always legal, some people pay for it

[tender shard]

like literally

how can you not read books

[eternal night]

unrelated @slender elbow ping

[river oracle]

kekw

[storm crystal]

You realize you show that you are no on better by doing this

[river oracle]

LOL

[river oracle]

no I'm much superior to you. Its a complex you see

[storm crystal]

Other medias exist for a reason?

[tender shard]

omg I got a HTML book

[slender elbow]

dw, i don't read books either

[eternal night]

Yup, that was why you got pinged 👍

[storm crystal]

Thats surprisingly narrow minded from someone who boasts in reading

[slender elbow]

and books also exist for a reason

[nova notch]

Who needs books when you have middle aged Indian man on YouTube?

[tender shard]

dw I'm just playing along your game by saying "no, your opinion is wrong."

[slender elbow]

Thats surprisingly narrow minded from someone who boasts in not reading

[kind hatch]

TRUEE

[storm crystal]

So you are no better than me

[river oracle]

I agree. I will open my narrow mind a little by continuing to be an asshole to you!

[kind hatch]

Character development

[tender shard]

the law I studied requires me to claim that all human life is worth the same

[storm crystal]

Avoided by what

[river oracle]

that's unfortunate

[storm crystal]

The law you studied sucks ass actually

With no layer of irony applied onto it

Geniuenly

[tender shard]

i dont think so, but I do, sometimes

you probably didnt get my joke but nvm

[storm crystal]

I mean sure I could corner you with asking very specific questions about it but thats just inproper

[tender shard]

no, feel free to do that

I'd be fine with that

[river oracle]

alex is bored I think he wants entertainment

[storm crystal]

It didnt sound like one

[tender shard]

exactly

[kind hatch]

Don't we all?

[river oracle]

this is why paying for netflix is stupid #help-development is always a clown show

[tender shard]

ok it was more like a pun, not a joke

[unkempt peak]

If they don't know how to read i doubt they have enough brain cells to understand that joke

[river oracle]

I do for aproximately 21* more minutes

[tender shard]

so pls corner me with your questions about german law and how or why I sometimes suck ass @storm crystal

[river oracle]

I think he's on google

[kind hatch]

Why, what you got going on in 21 minutes?

[storm crystal]

Okay I see the pun

[river oracle]

give him a minute

[river oracle]

hanging out with friends

[kind hatch]

Wack

[storm crystal]

You dont suck ass

[kind hatch]

Cringe

Imagine

[storm crystal]

I didnt say that

[river oracle]

@tender shard I don't think he has any questions

😥

[tender shard]

ofc he hasnt, what did you expect

[slender elbow]

but i did

alex, you suck ass

❤️

[river oracle]

*literally

[tender shard]

only my boyfriend's!

[slender elbow]

fair

[kind hatch]

Awww, time to dogpile alex.

You suck

with love

[tender shard]

❤️

I love you all too :3

well

most of you

[river oracle]

damn :(

no need to call me out

[tender shard]

Nah I'm talking about @undone axle

[river oracle]

:O

poor CafeBabe

what did she do

[eternal night]

|| dont think anyone cares enough about you to call you out miles ||

[river oracle]

my heart just skipped a beat

[tender shard]

still got not javadoc NamespacedKey command

that gives link directly to that class

[river oracle]

isn't that Sam's fault

[tender shard]

I suggested that like 2 years ago

[river oracle]

I think we blame him

[tender shard]

yeah let's blame sam

[river oracle]

plus we all know Optic is his AI

[tender shard]

he isnt online rn anyway so we can blame him

[river oracle]

and optic hasn't done it either

[river oracle]

you laugh now but one day CabernetMC will conquer the server market

[tender shard]

optic generally doesnt do many things besides deleting not-english messages and talk about antimalware /s

[river oracle]

the charts will say 99.99% CabernetMC 00.01% paper

[eternal night]

Nah the song is just a banger

wrong ping

[tender shard]

but which song

I wanna know

[river oracle]

send it here

[eternal night]

this one

[worthy yarrow]

CabernetMC is gonna flop if you don’t get Marco back on

[tender shard]

my airpods are fully charged, let's go

[eternal night]

its olly murs heart skips a beat

[river oracle]

guys where tf did Dusk go

this is getting upsetting

[tender shard]

still googling sth he can ask me about sucking ass or german law i guess

he wanted to "corner me" or sth

[river oracle]

r/legaladvice

[tender shard]

or maybe he's currently giving me 1 star reviews on all my plugins rn

who knows

[river oracle]

that's still a win for you

free money 😂

[kind hatch]

$10 on he "figured it out", but it still doesn't work.

[river oracle]

maybe you can go buy yourself a meal that is a very long german word

[storm crystal]

No im trying to figure something out

[tender shard]

oh good one - can money ever be free?

[worthy yarrow]

Dusk is the new Marco right?

[tender shard]

next level

[buoyant viper]

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot
BungeeCord
BungeeCord Chat

[kind hatch]

Nah, they aren't commited enough.

[tender shard]

probably upgraded to gpt4

[storm crystal]

If that makes you feel better abour yourself

[worthy yarrow]

Aw shit finally no more keys on top of the doormat type deals

[river oracle]

no marco was much more sophisticated

[buoyant viper]

or working javascript on bungee docs

[river oracle]

which is sad this a new low

[tender shard]

yeah fr wtf is that shit

[worthy yarrow]

Aw man so you mean to say there will be more keys on top of doormats

[tender shard]

did md create them with java5 or what

[kind hatch]

Wait, does that mean that marco was peak spigot controversy?

[river oracle]

definitely

mid tier troll

[tender shard]

nah, there's been many people like him before

nobody will ever forget LeGuernic

[river oracle]

I'm the best troll

I wish I was around for LeGuernic

[kind hatch]

Me too

[river oracle]

I think I wasn't in the server for him

[tender shard]

LeGuernic was kinda like cmarco

[worthy yarrow]

Pff ft

[river oracle]

I might've been but I don't think I talked

[storm crystal]

Im really not surprised I got message like this, lol

[kind hatch]

Kody? With a K?

[river oracle]

guys what about Vector

[tender shard]

"huehue I'm the best dev ever but I only code for spigot 1.3.6, I'm well known in the 1.3 community bla bla" (that was during 1.19 times or sth) then leguernic got banned for identity stealing or sth. because the actual LeGuernic is some french? professor or sth and he stole his name and profile pic and everything haha

[kind hatch]

Oh my, Vector

[river oracle]

yeah

[storm crystal]

Yeah

[tender shard]

The real LeGuerinc even messaged me and asked me about that "online leguernic" back then to report him to police and stuff

[kind hatch]

Vector was kinda short lived

[river oracle]

I absolutely agree please leave

[storm crystal]

The guy who does plugin series

[nova notch]

No one has inflated egos you just whine and complain about everything and refuse to learn

[kind hatch]

Who?

You're gonna have to be more specific

[river oracle]

also wtf paper is not toxic they are very strict about their rules

[kind hatch]

As there are multiple people who do plugin series

[river oracle]

that one guiy who codes plugins

you know him

[tender shard]

ok TL;DR Dusk couldnt think of any "question" to "corner me", I give up my hope to still get a question

[river oracle]

kangarco

[kind hatch]

Ohhh

[river oracle]

no I'm joking

its not him

[kind hatch]

I know

I couldn't type fast enough for my joke

:3

[river oracle]

type faster next time

not to brag but I get 90wpm on this keyboard

thats like #1 in teh world

[kind hatch]

What if someone else asks a question?

[tender shard]

I will write a wpm tester website, with blackhack and hookers. and every word will just be "i"

[tender shard]

then I will try my best to answer it

[river oracle]

W

When are you gonna fork spigot but introduce blackjack and hookers

[storm crystal]

Nobody will learn if the only answers to their spigot problem is "go back, spend 200 hours reading java basic books and maybe itll fix itself"

[tender shard]

thursday. I promise

[storm crystal]

In what sane world does that make sense xd

[river oracle]

👀

[kind hatch]

Marking my calendar

[river oracle]

I'm holding you accountable

just put it in my phone

[river oracle]

well before using a java API you really should learn java. We're here to provide spigot support. Their are plentyyy of servers that can help you with basic java

[tender shard]

in the real world it makes very much sense.

"yo how do I control my car going 300kmh on the autobahn? without spending 200 hours doing my driver's license first, ofc"

TL;DR you don't

[storm crystal]

Isnt this illegal

[kind hatch]

Or any scenario where there is expected prerequisite knowledge

[river oracle]

if a person is being nice and chill I will sometimes offer in depth java support

you are not nice or chill

[tender shard]

yes

driving without a license is indeed illegal

[storm crystal]

Why would I be to you in specific

[nova notch]

you dont even need 200 hours (at least in the US idk how it works in germany)
but here they practically hand out licenses

[tender shard]

who would have thought

[slender elbow]

oh

[storm crystal]

Or like anyone in here at this rate

I know everyone despises me here so at least ill scrape off some cheap help or waste people's time

[river oracle]

what... I've been driving without a license for 3 years

oh god

[tender shard]

in germany I think the least minimum you can do is 20 hours of driving lessons + 15 hours of theory + the actual 45 minutes of driving exam + the time you need for the theory exam (which is I think 30 minutes at most)

[kind hatch]

I mean, you're the one who came in with an attitude and got rightfully hazed for it.

[nova notch]

oh damn thats not even a lot either

[river oracle]

in my state we have to have 60 hours of driving at day and 20 hours of driving at night plus the driving school

before you can get a license

[storm crystal]

I remember asking for questions normally

At first

[river oracle]

you were likely told to learn java

and didn't like that

you lack the pre-requisite knowledge to adequitely learn this API

[tender shard]

that's ofc just the bare minimum. if your driving instructor says after 20 hours of lessons "well you're not good enough yet" you need more lessons

[storm crystal]

Then people became hostile because I asked inproper questions about java, not spigot

[river oracle]

I did too. I got the same treatment 4 years ago

[storm crystal]

How am I supposed to know

What problem is spigot

And what is java

[slender elbow]

by knowing java

[kind hatch]

^

[slender elbow]

which you can do by following a course

[tender shard]

you are totally fine to ask questions about java here too

[river oracle]

and practicing!

[storm crystal]

Omw to spend 500 hrs on java

[slender elbow]

okay go ahead

[storm crystal]

I wont pay for one

[kind hatch]

You don't have to

[river oracle]

I never payed for a java course xD

[kind hatch]

There are countless free resources

[storm crystal]

Free ones always are either low quality or with a drawback

[river oracle]

learn to google son

its invaluable

[slender elbow]

there are heaps of free resources that are amazing

you aren't gonna find anything with that mindset

[river oracle]

not to mention discord servers entirely catering to people who want to learn java

[tender shard]

but you behaved like an entitled asshole, ignoring people's answers, refusing to read linked javadocs because "what am I supposed to do with stupid api docs" etc even though they answered exactly your questions. then you told us that you all don't like us and that it's "your absolute right to tell us you don't like us" etc and then you kept hating on java, asking me "what are you on" because I asked you valid questions and the list goes on and on

[storm crystal]

Not really im doing it now just to piss you off lol

[storm crystal]

Nah

[tender shard]

you can't piss me off dude, I'm a lawyer, I deal with angry assholes all day. Without people like you, I'd be jobless

[storm crystal]

Theres always a catch to these

[unkempt peak]

Nobody's pissed lol, we are all just being entertained by how pathetic you are

[storm crystal]

Nobody gives it for free

[slender elbow]

how would you know if you haven't botherted to check them?

[kind hatch]

That's not 100% accurate.

[slender elbow]

i've bothered to check them and i can attest there are several that are very much worth the time

[kind hatch]

There are great free resources out there that are even better than some paid stuff.

[storm crystal]

You all are wasting time replying to a random person on the internet, you know that

[river oracle]

aren't you equally as bad wasting our time?

just food for thought

[storm crystal]

Well then tell which to back it up or ill call it a cap

[slender elbow]

?learn-java

cafebabe dead?

[tender shard]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

Codecademy - Learn Java: Interactive Java programming course from basics to more advanced concepts. Perfect for absolute beginners.
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
JetBrains Academy - Java Developer Track: Learn by doing with projects and challenges. It covers Java fundamentals to advanced topics.
https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/
Udemy - Java Programming Masterclass for Software Developers: Updated courses that cover Java 8 to Java 17 features. Suitable for those who prefer structured learning.
https://www.udemy.com/course/java-the-complete-java-developer-course/

For Intermediate to Advanced Learners:

Oracle Java Tutorials: The official guides by Oracle for Java programming—great for understanding the depth of Java.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
Baeldung - Learn Java and Spring: Focus on Spring Framework and modern Java technologies. Best for intermediate learners aiming to expand their knowledge.
https://www.baeldung.com/

Practice and Hands-on Learning:

Exercism - Java Track: Solve exercises and get feedback from mentors. Great for practicing coding skills.
https://exercism.io/tracks/java
LeetCode: Practice your coding skills and prepare for technical interviews with Java.
https://leetcode.com/

Free Resources and Documentation:

Java Programming and Documentation: A comprehensive collection of Java programming guides, tutorials, and API documentation.
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/

Community and Support:

Stack Overflow: A vast community of developers. Great for getting help with specific problems or understanding concepts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java
r/learnjava on Reddit: Join the community of Java learners and get advice, share resources, and discuss projects.
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjava/

Remember: Learning to program takes practice and patience. Don't hesitate to experiment with code and participate in community discussions. Happy coding! 🎉

[kind hatch]

No, oneword

[tender shard]

without hyphen

[slender elbow]

that's silly

[storm crystal]

They either are shit, demand your information or are advertisments

[slender elbow]

jetbrains academy is really good

[kind hatch]

I prefer the ?learnjava!

[nova notch]

is it free?

[tender shard]

yeah it also still got the old links:

?learnjava!

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/694661573125472256/998143126373941248/6n0v4g.gif

[kind hatch]

You're looking in the wrong spots. :p

[storm crystal]

Whats the point of doing some pathetic looking exercises or challenges in java

[kind hatch]

Plus, email accounts are free.

[storm crystal]

What could that actually teach

[slender elbow]

java?

[storm crystal]

If I can just look up answers

[slender elbow]

the thing you are fundamentally lacking knowledge in

[river oracle]

if you look up the answers

why are you doing it...

[kind hatch]

The point is to learn.

[storm crystal]

I know basic syntax, thats all I need

[tender shard]

"hewwo I'm dusk, I want sth for free, without giving out my email address, and without any ads please. Oh, how you are supposed to pay the server or staff costs or sth? idk, ask on spigotmc discord, they got an answer for that, I'm sure"

[nova notch]

that is absolutely NOT all you need

[tender shard]

"but I wouldnt read it"

[slender elbow]

clearly not

you woulldn't be struggling otherwise

[storm crystal]

You told me to "google" so I do it

[storm crystal]

Im only struggling with spigot shit

That im not used to

[tender shard]

you can't even read javadocs

[slender elbow]

because you lack fundamental java knowledge

[storm crystal]

I purposely not look at them because you post them

[tender shard]

how mature

this will definitely help you learn more

you will achieve much things with this attitude in life lmao

[slender elbow]

"i purposefully cut my own break lines because you touched them"

[kind hatch]

You know, maybe some people just need to learn the hard way. lmao

[buoyant viper]

today i will make Issue

https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-7663