help-development

[hybrid spoke]

simple as that

[ivory sleet]

^

[bleak eagle]

yours too >:( wanna fight buddy huh huh !?!

[ivory sleet]

I do insist, your opinion is not really well based on facts and it just looks like you’re arguing for the sake of arguing, but you do you

[hybrid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mother-great-argument-however-megamind-your-mom-yo-mama-gif-22994712

[bleak eagle]

you're entirely right, I don't have anything better to do, though I still consider it's based on facts

compare it to a language like golang

[ivory sleet]

in what way do you compare the two?

[bleak eagle]

also important: based on

[bleak eagle]

start me 2 concurrent threads. one randomly reads from a file and the other randomly writes to the same file

[ivory sleet]

What’s the purpose?

[bleak eagle]

to prove a point

:D

[hybrid spoke]

synchronized ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ivory sleet]

This for instance is completely factless, i don’t know what to tell you

I mean sure not all features are that crucial to the languge

But that point can be given to any modern language

[ivory sleet]

No like, what exactly are you comparing?

Just “oh pick 2 langs and compare them” is really vague

is it speed?

stability comfort?

modularity?

[bleak eagle]

https://www.baeldung.com/java-17-new-features see pattern matching, sealed classes, vector api

https://www.baeldung.com/java-12-new-features see switch expressions, instanceof matching

[bleak eagle]

simplicity of use

maintainability of code

readability of code

[ivory sleet]

You can write highly maintainable code and highly readable code in Java

as well as in GoLang

Simplicity java falls

[bleak eagle]

that's what I'm mostly referring to though!! having 5 ways of doing a single thing is silly and automatically leads to less readable and maintainable code

no matter what the language is

I, as a developer, should not have to know what the fuck it means when someone assigns a switch statement to a variable

[ivory sleet]

that’s true, but java is at least trying to not provide 5 ways of doing the same thing, they’re trying to provide dev ergonomics, which yes a side effect is sometimes that you get surjectivity

well brunnooo

Would you rather have java never update again?

Or what exactly do you value?

Java never pushing any new JEPs just so you don’t have to learn any new semantic feature? Or let Java try their best to ergonomically simplify the language to some extent, syntax sugar or whatever you wanna call it?

[bleak eagle]

simplify?

ergonomic just isn't a good word to use because it's the polar opposite of that

[remote swallow]

ah yeah instanceof pattern matching wasnt a simplification

[bleak eagle]

simplification to write and not to read and maintain

especially for new developers

you are able to preserve good ergonomics and readability while having one standard method of doing something

my example language, golang, kind of excels at that

and don't get me wrong, even though I'm criticizing java fwiw, I'm not saying it should NEVER BE USED and is USELESS GARBAGE

java is absolutely amazing in some aspects

but golang wouldn't have been created by Google "just cuz they felt like it"

it was created because google noticed the aforementioned flaws in java (which was along with c++ the primary language they wrote almost everything in) especially when trying to maintain huge codebases with lots of developers at different levels of experience involved

[bleak eagle]

never said anything about that, a language may update without introducing more useless syntax crud under the excuse of "developer ergonomics"

there are constant useful updates to java

and also constant useless updates to java

[ivory sleet]

sure I would probably not use java anymore for a micro service, but there are def other sections where I think Java is far more applicable

if you dont consider javas features ergonomical then thats on u, the reason we for example got pattern matching was because it was largely asked for from the community, then whether you classify it as simplicity, ergonomics or what other term is up to u Ig, it is true that GoLang wins in simplicity (and other aspects), but don't you reckon its worth for java to satisfy its community and try to reduce some of its unnecessary semantics, its not like these features are shipped in a week, it has been years for them to be delivered, subsequently well established and learnt/adopted by the community (mostly)

but if you so much care about having one objective way of doing things in programming that'll surely eliminate a lot of languages from ever being touched by your hands rest assured

[icy beacon]

Let's stop arguing and switch to Kotlin

[ivory sleet]

:D

[torn shuttle]

make them sit on chairs with an IED under them that is hooked up to a web server and whoever writes a program to detonate the other's chair wins the argument

this is the only way

[bleak eagle]

the issue is constantly trying to satisfy the community

[icy beacon]

xD

[bleak eagle]

rust suffers from that issue the most

rust is like the exact problems I'm talking about in java amplified a thousand times

[bleak eagle]

conclusion: use C

[ivory sleet]

well with rust u know u likely r gonna have to write it all urself pretty much but yea indeed

[ivory sleet]

id consider it a double edged sword, tho

[icy beacon]

Stop writing code, manually change the state of each transistor instead

[bleak eagle]

yeah no you're right

[torn shuttle]

if you don't like java go join the very long list of people who said they'd make their own java and then did

[bleak eagle]

it's important to find a balance but also stand up against EVERYTHING the community wants

[torn shuttle]

and another 5 years from now we'll just have another flavor out

[ivory sleet]

yup^^

[bleak eagle]

I don't want to make my java

thanks xD

[torn shuttle]

well then either use something else or suck it up, there is no other option for you here

well maybe go get hired by oracle is an option

[bleak eagle]

never said there was one

I criticized its flaws

that's all!

don't misinterpret me

I never said anything about not wanting to use it

[bleak eagle]

rust is so loose with merging PRs for no real reason and look at what that's led to

[lost matrix]

I can see that. The problem is that C++ is a real horror to write and there is not really an alternative other than Rust.

[bleak eagle]

"the community" is a mass of people (people are mostly dumb)

and they follow whatever is cool and trendy at any given moment

so they just have to add crud to their favorite language implementing it

and then developers start using those new features, confusing those who still haven't picked up on them and making everything shittier and less maintainable

then in 10 years the feature gets deprecated and breaks tons of existing code

[inner mulch]

kotlin is bad

[ivory sleet]

@icy beacon

oo

so u dont like kotlin anymore zbll?

[inner mulch]

kotlin is just fake java still bytecode

[icy beacon]

I'm not gonna argue lol it's pointless

[ivory sleet]

lol

yea

[icy beacon]

Believe what you want

I hated kotlin until I tried it. That's all I'll say

[ivory sleet]

well, not always

[bleak eagle]

I don't really take it as arguing but more of a convo

[bleak eagle]

xD

[ivory sleet]

it can be transpiled to javascript or sth weird

[inner mulch]

okay?

[ivory sleet]

yep, now you know its not all fake jvm bytecode

[lost matrix]

I tried it. I liked it for scripting but puked while writing a big project with 2 other devs.

[inner mulch]

java has a nicer syntax tbh

[ivory sleet]

i heard its annoying as its not rly 1-1 if u wna use it for both lets say on the jvm and the js web thingy

[inner mulch]

extends is more readable than :

[river oracle]

I thought the same until I tried it

[lost matrix]

It is more verbose. And i like that in languages.

[inner mulch]

isnt kotlin just a different syntax?

[ivory sleet]

i personally do like extends/implements, but i can see why u'd prefer : instead

[icy beacon]

Kotlin helps you not violate ocp iykwim

[ivory sleet]

lol

[river oracle]

I mean you could makw this argument for ever coding language

[bleak eagle]

OMG

[lost matrix]

-.-

[icy beacon]

Yeah I'm not letting that go

[inner mulch]

not really, some have better generics than java

[ivory sleet]

"better"

[inner mulch]

yes runtime generics

generics that dont force me to do unsafe casts

[slender elbow]

that is not a matter of the language

but the platform

[ivory sleet]

java has that, no im coping now^^^

[river oracle]

Actually those are called templates

[lost matrix]

Generics is a weak point in java. I prefer C#s approach for this.

[bleak eagle]

it's only human when something is criticized about something you like

[slender elbow]

mfw just use clojure

[icy beacon]

What's different? Genuine question

[bleak eagle]

yeah I +1 this

[ivory sleet]

🥲

[inner mulch]

i think theres no type erasure

[bleak eagle]

though I don't know anything about c# generics

[river oracle]

C# is if kotlin and java had a malformed baby but it was owned by the most skull emoji company on earth

[bleak eagle]

skullemoji

[icy beacon]

Lmao

[slender elbow]

as if oracle wasn't a skullemoji company

[river oracle]

Unfortunately I'll have to concede that C# is pretty awesome even though Microsoft owns it

[slender elbow]

being born from the nsa

[river oracle]

Listen I won't miss a beat to shit on Microsoft

[icy beacon]

C# is not bad though I don't want to learn a third java-esque language tbh

[dry hazel]

so sad sun is gone

[bleak eagle]

you know it's fucked when 'several people typing...'

[bleak eagle]

yeah same

[icy beacon]

Especially in help development

[inner mulch]

public void > fun

[icy beacon]

You know it's gonna get hella productive

[bleak eagle]

this is actually ironically the one thing I DESPISE about go

[ivory sleet]

isnt just java but weird naming conventions in essence? 🤨

[bleak eagle]

go has a func too and it sucks

[icy beacon]

Mostly yes

But I think it's a bit less boilerplate as well

[river oracle]

Yeah there's some cool features java doesn't have though

[lost matrix]

Jeah C# also has some truly horrible features. The language is fine but the eco system of this language
lets me use Java instead, which makes the choice easy. (Other then game dev ofc)

[icy beacon]

What is dependency management like in c#?

[ivory sleet]

ye y2k and zbll, its pretty much more swag than java :c

[dry hazel]

nuget

[river oracle]

God the only thing that turns me off of C is fucking CMake fuck CMake

[bleak eagle]

c dependency management is miserable

but otherwise it's an ok language when applicable to the use case

[ivory sleet]

is the eco sys rly that bad?

[lost matrix]

Hmm. I only use NuGet and whatever Unity uses internally.
Its... ok.

[ivory sleet]

i found it just fine in most cases

[bleak eagle]

I've seen some thiiiings that I won't for-gett..

[ivory sleet]

😬

[bleak eagle]

ashtray carpets & starving pets

[lost matrix]

The C# eco system is littered with deprecated, outdated and incompatible resources. It can create dumpster fires quite quickly.

[ivory sleet]

oh woaw

i was prob lucky then when I wrote my Csharp app back in the days

[bleak eagle]

yeah no the shit that people do with it is horrendous at times. I think it's mostly because of inexperienced developers whose first contact with programing is c# because it's so common in gamedev where so many people get into programming

just like python! not the gamedev part though. just new devs

[ivory sleet]

but kotlin is so fun!

[lost matrix]

The problem is that C# went through a lot of fundamental changes in the attempt to separate itself from Java.
And during those changes there was a lot of stuff written, which now drags the eco system a bit behind.

[inner mulch]

no it not readable without the access modifier and return type for my java eyes

[lost matrix]

And that as well

[ivory sleet]

i mean u can write accessiblity modifier and return type in kotlin as well

if u really feel like it

[bleak eagle]

2 ways of doing the same thing.. my golang senses are tingling

[slender elbow]

suspend fun

[ivory sleet]

lol

[lost matrix]

Python has a similar problem, but there you dont care. You already know that if you have something
that takes X and gives you Y, then you really dont want to know (and care) whats behind this function as long as it works.

[inner mulch]

emily why is there a nokotlin emoji on the paper server

[inner mulch]

does paper hate kotlin?

[bleak eagle]

I feel like the paper people would worship it

[inner mulch]

why?

[lost matrix]

They are in a weird super position where they like Gradle but dislike Kotlin mostly

[bleak eagle]

EWWWWW GRADLEEE

barf

[inner mulch]

maven is nice

[ivory sleet]

i think paper is using kotlin instead of groovy for gradle stuff (which is obvious why)

else java

as bruno mentioned earlier, the semantic surjectivity to solve a problem is a big issue in most kotlin code basas imo - often multiple ways of achieving the exact some thing for even the smallest code snippets

[lost matrix]

Maven is ok. As long as you dont need any custom functionality.
Gradle is more flexible, but the surjectivity is just pumped to the max there.

[river oracle]

public fun 💀

[bleak eagle]

what sort of fun are we talking about here

[ivory sleet]

gradle is also at like version 8.5, who knows how many more versions we're gonna get

[remote swallow]

8.6 now iirc

[ivory sleet]

mhmm yess

[river oracle]

I found maven to bottle neck me when I needed to build some basic stuff out e.g. using python scripts instead of just building something small in buildSrc

[ivory sleet]

well u can use type tokens also

[inner mulch]

can you combine python scripts with java code?

[river oracle]

Blind casting!!!!!!!

[ivory sleet]

if u want runtime type awareness

[inner mulch]

what r type tokens?

[river oracle]

No I mean yess with jython but if you do that kinda like idk how to say this nicely but fuck you

[inner mulch]

why combining languages = bad? you can use the best of these 2 ?

[ivory sleet]

basicallt a
abstract class Token<T> {}

where u create a new anonymous class
Token<Map<String,Object>> myToken = new Token<Map<String,Object>>(){};

and the type is preserved at runtime Map<String,Object>

[river oracle]

The best of python is a scripting language far removed from anything you'd make in Java

[inner mulch]

yeah python is kinda slow

[ivory sleet]

the only time py isnt slow is when its not in py

[inner mulch]

i heard python is so slow because the code is interpreted at runtime, why do you make a language intentionally slow?

[river oracle]

Most of the big libraries you use are In C and if you optimize with CPython you kinda do some good shit my main problem with CPython is ide support is ass

[river oracle]

Pythons goal isn't to be fast

It doesn't need to be the next C

It does what it wants to do and does it well

[inner mulch]

and what does it do?

[ivory sleet]

it lets u write python code

[inner mulch]

nice

[ivory sleet]

[river oracle]

A fast to write interpreted language that is useful for writing scripts and modeling ML/AI models as well as CLIs

[bleak eagle]

python is easy and quick (and slow and messy and a pain in the ass)

[ivory sleet]

i mostly just hate the fake type system

[inner mulch]

java is easy too, so i dont see the reason behind python

[bleak eagle]

yeahh same

[bleak eagle]

python

print("hello")

java

package net.oikei.example;

public static void main(String[] args) {
  System.out.println("hello");
}

??

[river oracle]

Yeah but you're a programmer the overhead for a regular person or a professional who doesn't code to learn something like Java or C++ is huge they don't get paid to write code they get paid to do research crunch numbers etc python is a means to an end that's easy as fuck

[ivory sleet]

clearly... latter wins

[river oracle]

Because you are a programmer you'll never actually realize the true benefits if python and it's sad but makes sense

[inner mulch]

does it mean ppl who use python arent programmers?

[river oracle]

Many aren't

Some are

Generally you'll see python being common in other fields like machine learning, statistics (tho R is also very widely used), even biology

[inner mulch]

ok

[bleak eagle]

@river oracle plz check stash inbox

tell me whether i messed up the merge, there's a duplicate commit but it's just amended to sign it off since i didn't initially

[celest hollow]

kotlin beats them all

[warm mica]

If programming isn't what makes you a programmer, what is?

[young knoll]

Programmer socks

[ivory sleet]

html

[torn shuttle]

posting programming memes from 2004 in #general

also on the next episode find out why lifting weights doesn't make you a weightlifter

[river oracle]

My main qualifications for that in a work environment would for that to be the most major part of your job

For many researchers that just isn't the case it's a helpful side piece

[torn shuttle]

the way you phrased this sentence makes my head hurt

[river oracle]

English

[torn shuttle]

I think I've forgotten how the debugger is supposed to work

this new intellij interface is tripping me up

wasn't there a play button for hotloading

https://tenor.com/view/memory-no-memory-where-am-i-memories-harry-potter-gif-5385535

I actually have no memory of how my hotloading setup was supposed to work, all I have is muscle memory from what used to work

@echo basalt packet-based async display entities, are you happy now

[echo basalt]

No

[torn shuttle]

good

I would've failed if you were

[remote swallow]

Its a keybind now iirc

[ornate heart]

I'm spawning custom entities. Is it enough to tag the custom entity via a persistent data container tag, or should I store the location of each custom entity and search for them that way.

I was thinking the storing of locations is redundant because I can simply mark each entity with a custom tag in PDC and just identity them that way.

[tender shard]

pdc tag is enough

[torn shuttle]

hey @echo basalt have you ever come up with a fixed-location abstract inventory system such that interacting with a spot in a world basically opens a chest but the chest doesn't actually exist?

[echo basalt]

That's hella niche

[torn shuttle]

yeah a bit

[echo basalt]

But probably

[torn shuttle]

just wondering if it's worth bothering hacking into mc to fake a chest being at a location for this or if I just do it the potentially easier way of dumping it into a database

[echo basalt]

Nah

Just pdc or database

[torn shuttle]

pdc is a cute idea

[echo basalt]

Just have 1 inventory instance

[young knoll]

Interaction entity

[torn shuttle]

that's just for interaction though, not for inventory storage right

[young knoll]

Sure but you can just map it to an inventory

[torn shuttle]

yeah still need to figure out storage for that inv is all

[round finch]

how did you do that??

i wanted to do that with different inventories

[hybrid spoke]

voodoo magic

[sterile flicker]

does anyone know how to handle a zombie spawn packet in protocollib?

[torn shuttle]

also have to figure out how I want to store the chunk entity data for this one, not an obvious one

[lost mist]

guys i installed the 1.8.8 version for fawe jar and getting this error on paper can someone help me?

like i cant find that jar anywhere else

[hybrid spoke]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[round finch]

@torn shuttle Explain how it works!

[lost mist]

oh damn

lol

[shadow night]

Did you know this is spigot and also 1.8.8 is ancient

[lost mist]

yeah i did the same with spigot

i got my second server

on the other file

sec

[torn shuttle]

look at the time it's time to hit the gym

[lost mist]

i actually tried both

[torn shuttle]

guess you'll have to go read my open source code

[hybrid spoke]

what did the gym do to you

[lost mist]

im glad to

you got a link?

like i have been spending around 10 hours to find a solution..

[shadow night]

it pretty obviously says the plugin.yml file is invalid

[lost mist]

ikr

[torn shuttle]

for which part of htis

[hybrid spoke]

have you downloaded fawe for your version? (1.8.8)

[torn shuttle]

it looked at me funny

[lost mist]

yeah

1.8.9

[hybrid spoke]

with a reason

[torn shuttle]

I'm coming for you after the gym

[lost mist]

as they say on their website

[hybrid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-jack-black-ill-be-waiting-half-stance-funny-gif-17917419

[hybrid spoke]

thats forge

[lost mist]

yeah

but i cant find

the spigot one

or its only for forge?

[hybrid spoke]

?

[icy beacon]

Sniped

[lost mist]

ong

im so dumb

[hybrid spoke]

agreed

[lost mist]

i thought it was saying 1.17

all this time

😭

thanks guys no cap

have a good day

[gritty current]

why do i get this error?
https://pastebin.com/Wjs1fAgj

This is my code for the event it doesnt register the kill and doesnt give a heart to the player that killed the other player
https://pastebin.com/jLQgbPQM

[echo basalt]

Just got home, still need help?

[echo basalt]

The error literally tells you the line n stuff

So does your IDE

On a side note, your code looks really ugly, please take a look at this

(It's pinned)

[gritty current]

why doesnt anything happen when i select a head?
code
https://pastebin.com/8BSfcci2

[remote swallow]

dont use inventory holders to detect if its your inventory

[gritty current]

then what do i use?

[remote swallow]

?gui

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[remote swallow]

and add debug statements and see where it fails

[gritty current]

ok

[sterile flicker]

yes

[echo basalt]

Alright, what do you have?

Did you try anything yet

[sterile flicker]

current code is: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/73779318512b4a4588f7ba650c62ce6e

I want to make the client think that a zombie is a player

how do I change the metadata correctly so that it is like a player's

[echo basalt]

Hm what's the objective with this?

Players and zombies are two very different things

[sterile flicker]

to make the zombie look like a player

[gritty current]

why doesnt this unban command work?

        Bukkit.getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage("7 Debug");
        BanList banList = Bukkit.getServer().getBanList(BanList.Type.NAME);
        Bukkit.getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage("8 Debug");
        if (banList.isBanned(Objects.requireNonNull(Objects.requireNonNull(offlinePlayer.getPlayer()).getName()))) {
            Bukkit.getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage("9 Debug");
            banList.pardon(offlinePlayer.getName());
            Bukkit.getServer().broadcastMessage(ChatColor.YELLOW.toString() + ChatColor.BOLD + player.getName() + " Has Revived " + offlinePlayer.getName());
        } else {
            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Player is not Dead!");
        }
    }

}```

[sterile flicker]

I had the code for the fake player's nms but they don't have ai and goals

[rotund thunder]

retexure

[quaint mantle]

ItemStack nmsStack = CraftItemStack.asNMSCopy(is);
        try {
            Field f = Item.class.getDeclaredField("MAX_STACK_SIZE");
            f.setAccessible(true);
            f.setInt(nmsStack, i);

            Field f2 = Item.class.getDeclaredField("maxStackSize");
            f2.setAccessible(true);
            f2.setInt(nmsStack, i);
        } catch (Exception ex) {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
        nmsStack.setCount(i);```
(1.20.1 paper)
How to make the number of items exceed 64?
When I run the above code, I see 64 items in my inventory and when I click, I pick up 100 items in my cursor.

[chrome beacon]

Changing the stack size isn't recommended

It will cause problems like desync

[gritty current]

can someone pls help

[quaint mantle]

I think I don't have to consider the item duplication issue because it's just to be displayed in the GUI?
(I don't know if I understood it correctly)

[chrome beacon]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[gritty current]

it doesnt unban the player

but it doesnt output an error

i dont know whats wrong

[warm pine]

Is there a obfuscator plugin in IntelliJ?

[chrome beacon]

?

What exactly are you looking for

if you're trying to obfuscate while building with artifacts that's just a bad idea

[quaint mantle]

I'd like to display 100 of nether stars on the GUI

[gritty current]

Anyone knows why this happens?

[shadow night]

if obfuscate, do it after building, but you better just don't obfuscate

[proud badge]

What would be the event priority that runs slightly before monitor?

[quaint mantle]

ItemStack nmsStack = CraftItemStack.asNMSCopy(is);
        try {

            Field f = Item.class.getDeclaredField("d");
            f.setAccessible(true);
            f.setInt(nmsStack, 100);

            nmsStack.setCount(100);
        } catch (Exception ex) {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }```

[kind hatch]

Don’t you have to change the max stack size as well?

[shadow night]

I remember in old bukkit you could set the item amount to anything, even tho it it limited by mc itself to 127

I wonder if you can do -128

[kind hatch]

I think mc patched stack sized over 64.

[quaint mantle]

maxstacksize is obfuscated to "d"

[shadow night]

I think not so long ago there was a bug with bottles in the brewing stand

[quaint mantle]

but if you pick up an item, it'll be picked up as 100

And when I put it back in the inventory, it turns into 64.

[shadow night]

the client doesn't like stacks above 64

[proud badge]

is HIGHEST event priority called first, or last?

Because it doesnt really explain in the documentation what "important" means

[remote swallow]

last

lowest first, monitor last

dont modify the event on monitor

[proud badge]

ok thanks

So the priority just before MONITOR would be HIGHEST?

[remote swallow]

yeah

[proud badge]

Ok thanks

[shadow night]

what if I do

[remote swallow]

we will come for you

[shadow night]

then do it now

@icy beacon you say you live in my walls, come, fight me for this

[young knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[icy beacon]

I HAVE FINALLY FINISHED THE SCHOOL PROJECT

Well almost

[proud badge]

What decides which plugins are loaded first?

[icy beacon]

I have yet to fill the database

But since I'm extremely happy

I hereby free you from your debt

[shadow night]

isn't it the startup mode in plugin.yml, loadbefore and something like that and then also a bit of randomness

[shadow night]

you what

[icy beacon]

You do not have any fact debt anymore

And as such you can opt out from being a fact provider now

You have 2 hours to decide

[shadow night]

I will do one thing

one fact, and then I opt out. Is that an option?

[icy beacon]

You can do that, or you can just opt out with 0 facts

Sure

[twin venture]

Hi uhh, i have a question what is a good structure to create a KitEditor system? :

• KitEditorProfile (UUID,KIT)?
• a database with UUID, SWORD INT,BOW INT ... etc?[i will get more problems with this system what if kit have consumable items , or thorwable items..]
  .. any other ideas?

the user will execute /KitEditor , it will open the gui with the current kit items only , and he can manuplate the slot of the kit items .

[ivory sleet]

Are you ever gonna query or insert just the sword, or just the bow etc

If not, maybe it could be worth while to blob it, altho yes - it does defeat the point of sql

[charred blaze]

Hey so i was just trying to load old project from eclipse to intelij. i failed so i moved out the old project folder out of the IdeaProjects. now im trying to create new project and im getting stuck on this screen each time. i tried invalidate and restart, deleted kotlin plugin. please help

[twin venture]

it will be diffrent items ,and will be like sword , arrow , food , or custom items .. so each kit will be diffrent

[dawn flower]

how do i disable vanilla criticals?

[granite owl]

does the java synchronized keyword enforce atomic access to the instance referenced in its parameter when invoked like ```java
synchronized(foo) {}

i found the docs only mentioning synchronized methods but it "appears" to work like this too

[tender shard]

it only enforces atomic access to any code block that is synchronized on foo too. other code would still be able to access foo without being synchronized ofc

[granite owl]

i expected as much that i would need to wrap every access to foo in the synchronized scope then

that is not thread safe

🙏

[dawn flower]

?

[mortal hare]

am i the only one who hates smooth scrolling

it slows down your scroll for no reason

to just look good

[ivory sleet]

Yes, synchronized ensures mutual exclusion and acts like a visibility point

Tho I rarely touch synchronized since usually you got better tools to work with that make ur design more robust or are lighter in terms of performance

[ivory sleet]

Yea, this is one of the reasons why synchronized sometimes is mediocre to work with, you may need to expose the mutex object to said clients enforcing them to manage it

[eternal night]

spamming it across everything to solve concurrency is a smart move

[ivory sleet]

you need to be put in jail for that

[eternal night]

[ivory sleet]

⛓️

[river oracle]

Guys my multi threaded number adder is broken

[umbral ridge]

how do you create a redstone lamp but change its state so its turned on or off

is it possible for torch too?

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/sparks-electrical-electricity-equipment-radio-amateur-fire-gif-24123123

[river oracle]

Lever

[wet breach]

change if its powered or not

[eternal oxide]

unless it's a wall torch

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/data/Lightable.html

Torches are a mess

[umbral ridge]

really

so torch that isnt placed on a wall can be turned off but a wall torch cant

wait nvm

[zealous osprey]

Sad, I was reading through that code in the image

[inner mulch]

okay i can send it again, if you want

[zealous osprey]

In which kind of context would you use this?

[inner mulch]

i have a few data objects instead of one big one, when i want to access data this would be helpful, so i have it all in one class instead of getting it from some weird place

[zealous osprey]

I'm having a hard time imagining it. I assume you will use some class Foo with some data and store it in the dataManagers map.
Then when you want to get Foo from that specific data holder you'll use #get?

[inner mulch]

yes, the datamanager save all the coin data for example, and i want to save the managers too as they became too many

and it became tedious working with them

[zealous osprey]

So it's a manager for storing managers?

[inner mulch]

no its a registry storing all instances of said managers

it doesnt manage anything

it just stores them

[zealous osprey]

true, my wording there was not precise

[inner mulch]

yes, i was going to use classes as keys, but javas cool feature type erasure makes that really not enjoyable

[zealous osprey]

Wouldn't #getCanonicalName be safer? Tbh, probably doesn't matter

[inner mulch]

i dont know what these all even return tbh

it would be safer probably as i might in some extremely rare case have 2 classes with the same name in the register

[zealous osprey]

iirc #getName returns the Name of the class, as is defined; #getCanonicalName returns the "path" to the class with the packages, e.g. com.conorsmine.net.Foo with Foo being the class.

Don't quote me on that, best to read the docs or just test it out

[inner mulch]

okay

[minor junco]

getName returns the path, getSimpleName returns the actual name of the class

[zealous osprey]

Thanks for clarifying :D

[inner mulch]

would this return a random uuid always, or would i generate it once?

[chrome beacon]

it's a static field so once

[inner mulch]

and when i call new Object on an object that implements the interface it receivers its own uuid, so this concept works, right?

[chrome beacon]

no

[inner mulch]

dont tell its tied to the class

:(

[chrome beacon]

That's exactly what static does

[zealous osprey]

tied to the interface, which will not re-instantiate it's static fields

[inner mulch]

okay, nice

[chrome beacon]

Display entities and resource pack

[mellow pebble]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[inner mulch]

but olivo, when i create a new object with new generics is it still the same class? as the definition of the object is different?

[mellow pebble]

So basically i am making plugin that will replant fully grown crops if harvested after 3 seconds of being harvested but it doesnt really replant it to be fully grown it doesnt even replant it at all so there is no errors or anything like that in console but if someone could check it out

https://paste.md-5.net/cuqisanaci.java

[chrome beacon]

yes

[inner mulch]

is there any way i can achieve my goal with an interface?

or do i need to add to every class manually

[chrome beacon]

use an abstract class instead

[inner mulch]

i suppose i could do that, tho what i my class already extends something ?

[chrome beacon]

You can only extend one class at a time

[inner mulch]

thats why im asking, so theres no way of achieving this with an interface?

[charred blaze]

hey there. im trying to upload my plugin to the github. im following this tutorial https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/upload-your-code-to-github-intellij.223201/. problem is i cant see some buttons in version control system. like this one in the image. there is no Import into version control

[chrome beacon]

no

[charred blaze]

it just looks like this

[chrome beacon]

That's settings

[charred blaze]

version control is in settings isnt it?

and this one

how do i set path to git executable

theres no button in there

[charred blaze]

Found this one

[charred blaze]

but where is this one

nvm found that too

[chrome ferry]

there a dirty ways to bypass this, very dirty that i will not share

[inner mulch]

why do you tell me about this, if you are not willing to tell me how? :(

[chrome ferry]

Incredibly dirty, its your choice todo so. I suggest you do change your code structure though.
You could store a map, with the instance as the key and the value being the uuid. when executing getUUID it grabs the instance and saves it. if it exists in the instance, get it.

Once again, its incredibly dirty. I recommended you change your code structure

[river oracle]

@worldly ingot am updating epic's TranslationKey PR and I'm confused is there some specific way you are supposed to get translation keys from registry backed things? I've noticed with 2 of your mentions notably, Biome and MusicalInstrument their registry backing, BaseBiome and Instrument have no mention of a msgId or descriptionId which have been the internal names I've come across for translations

[inner mulch]

okay, thank you i will think about how i can implement it

[quiet ice]

What's up with you and adding static methods to interfaces? You seem to be treating interfaces in a way they shouldn't be treated with

[bleak eagle]

what's wrong with that code? I'm curious myself as a java newb :P

[river oracle]

the correct way to approach this is

public interface Identifiable {
  UUID getIdentity();
}

[bleak eagle]

oh yes and then the class that implements it should do it

I was thinking of extends instead

[quiet ice]

In most cases interfaces shouldn't contain static methods. There are exceptions - yes, but I can't think of many

More often than not you should be using the default keyword instead

[river oracle]

alternatively if you want to enforce a random UUID which I personally wouldn't you can use an abstract class

public abstract class Identifiable {
  private final UUID identity = UUID.randomUUID();
  @NotNull
  public UUID getIdentitiy() {
    return this.identity;
  }
}

[bleak eagle]

yerp ^

[inner mulch]

hmm, i have the problem that i need to get a objects identity while not having the object

[river oracle]

then you have yourself a major design problem

[quiet ice]

And fields on interfaces are also rather rarely appropriate (the exception that comes to mind to this rule is ASM's Opcodes class, but that is just an interface for the sake of brevity rather than OOP reasons)

[inner mulch]

look at this

[quiet ice]

So - is there an object in the first place to get the identity of?

[river oracle]

lol generic hell

no way in hell I'm helping with that xD
what are you trying to make?

[bleak eagle]

KVKVT<><>>><<>>>>>>><

[quiet ice]

Looks like a generic registry

[inner mulch]

its a registry to registers datamanagers

i need to somehow get them without having the object

i need a key

[river oracle]

if you want registries you should do something like this

https://github.com/PineappleDevelopmentGroup/Pineapple/tree/dev/pineapple-utils/src/main/java/sh/miles/pineapple/collection/registry

here is an implementation

https://github.com/PineappleDevelopmentGroup/Totem/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/sh/miles/totem/registry/TotemSettingsRegistry.kt

[bleak eagle]

:nokotlin: :P

[quiet ice]

isn't the key your java/lang/Class instance?

[river oracle]

though the fact you are making a RegistryRegistry from the looks of it is quite funny

unless DataManager isn't really a manager

[inner mulch]

datamanager manages data, and there are so many it became tideous

[inner mulch]

no that doesnt work cuz of generic hell

[river oracle]

what kind of data?

[inner mulch]

playerdata

[river oracle]

why do you have more than 1 player data class

[inner mulch]

i have it split up for when i load it offline so i dont load it all

[quiet ice]

So, what's the key then?

[inner mulch]

tahts what im here for?

i dont know :(

[inner mulch]

many classes = good offline loading

i dont need to load the coins if i want to see their rank

[bleak eagle]

I don't understand, are you trying to get an object by a key when you don't have said key..?

[quiet ice]

In SLAPI we use a dedicated class for all registry keys: https://github.com/Starloader-project/Starloader-API/blob/future/2x/src/main/java/de/geolykt/starloader/api/registry/RegistryKeys.java, a similar principle could apply to you too

[inner mulch]

i need some kind of key

[river oracle]

this ladies and gents is why you go raw on the SQL because I think you could write a SQL query to solve this problem in like 10 minutes

[inner mulch]

wdym raw in sql?

[river oracle]

no complex generic fanagaling required!!!

[quiet ice]

But, honestly if the only reason you cannot use java/lang/Class is generic hell - then you actually can make use of java/lang/Class

[bleak eagle]

blargh :P

[river oracle]

no ORMs no overlapping api

[inner mulch]

overlapping api?

[river oracle]

just going raw on that good OL SQL and java.sql

[inner mulch]

i dont know what you mean

im just splitting the data

so its more effiecient and also cleaner

[river oracle]

cleaner

you did not just send me this and say its cleaner

[quiet ice]

I never had a problem with storing data the conventional way cough https://github.com/Geolykt/Presence/blob/main/src/main/java/de/geolykt/presence/common/PresenceData.java#L213-L332

[inner mulch]

yes why should i make a god class that has every playerdata and manages it all?

[inner mulch]

i dont have a problem either, having a singleton dataregistry is just nicer :)

[river oracle]

managing your data is not a "God Class" its just called managing your data

if you have data relating to 1 plugin in your plugin

there is no god its just like idk basic data management

write some SQL queries you need and such

[inner mulch]

but its 1 class for coins and ranks and everything else?

thats a god class

[quiet ice]

God classes are perfectly fine

[inner mulch]

no

[quiet ice]

Anyone that disagrees is an enemy of progress

[inner mulch]

they arent readable

[river oracle]

actually it violates some obsucre OOP principle probably

[quiet ice]

That is what IDEs are fore

[quiet ice]

What? Are you really going to chop up random classes for no good reason?

[river oracle]

idk usually that what OOP is all about

[bleak eagle]

muh ocp

[river oracle]

lol

[slender elbow]

yeah like OCP :trollface:

[inner mulch]

yo guys why are you bullying me :(

[river oracle]

@inner mulch anyways putting each piece of data in a separate class is absolutely wild as fuck and is not efficent not any more readable. I'd argue its just dumb lol

[inner mulch]

I suppose, I think it better to have a EconomyData, RankData etc.

[bleak eagle]

have you tried pdc? (/j)

[river oracle]

the real solution here is to make what you call a "God Class" for your data and you'll want to make some SQL queries that are able to fulfill your requests e.g. pull top 10 richest players you can write a query for that

[inner mulch]

and the loading and unloading mechanims can be modified to the needs

[inner mulch]

what pdc?

[river oracle]

oh god no

please

[bleak eagle]

xD

[inner mulch]

what does this have to do with sql

[river oracle]

Data classes are just fancy wrappers for SQL data

or database data

[quaint mantle]

Why do algorithm impls on tutorial websites have the worst names possible

Like the variables are like I l j

[river oracle]

oh my god its supposed to be i j k not i l j wtf

[bleak eagle]

@river oracle well, usually what I do is spawn a pig and give it a name so it doesn't despawn, then get its pdc and store all my data in nbt there

[inner mulch]

yes

[quaint mantle]

like p q r

tf

[bleak eagle]

it's quite clean but sometimes I have to have an alt online next to it so it doesn't unload and keep it in an enclosure so it doesn't escape

[river oracle]

tbf usually they're just arbitrary numbers that count upwords

[flint warren]

any idea why this doesn't work? doesn't make any sense

                String slot = hand_data.get(new NamespacedKey(this, "slot"), PersistentDataType.STRING);

                Bukkit.broadcastMessage(slot + "");
                //slot broadcasts "MAINHAND", it works every time                

                if(slot == "MAINHAND"){
                  //somehow this doesn't work? the code doesn't get here
                    return hand_data.get(new NamespacedKey(this, "health"), PersistentDataType.DOUBLE);
                }

[bleak eagle]

.equals

not ==

[flint warren]

okay ty

[bleak eagle]

a bit of java weirdness for you

[flint warren]

ive used c before

thats probably why

[bleak eagle]

yeah it must feel like a mess coming from a simple language like that lol

[flint warren]

yh lol

[bleak eagle]

but c has its downsides too

/shrug

[flint warren]

anyways ty o/

[bleak eagle]

don't speak too soon, test that first xD

[dry hazel]

== is reference equality, .equals is value equality; you'd have to call .intern() on slot for it to work with ==

[bleak eagle]

yeah the two Strings are actually different

their text might be the same but they can't be directly compared

because String is not a primitive type in java like boolean, int, or byte, the two Strings are different separate objects

it's a whole class, iirc in java.lang

[flint warren]

it works its alr

[silk ore]

I want MMO core support to be added to a plugin. Is there anyone who can do this?

[quaint mantle]

I think it makes sense

What's the price

[bleak eagle]

for someone coming from any other programming language ever, no it (initially) doesn't

[bleak eagle]

what does support mean?

[silk ore]

I wanted theSkills plugin to detect the ids of myhticmob creatures, who can I get this done?

[mellow pebble]

So basically i am making plugin that will replant fully grown crops if harvested after 3 seconds of being harvested but it doesnt really replant it to be fully grown it doesnt even replant it at all so there is no errors or anything like that in console but if someone could check it out

https://paste.md-5.net/cuqisanaci.java

[bleak eagle]

are you trying to hire someone to do it for you or asking how to do it yourself?

[river oracle]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[bleak eagle]

if the former is the case #help-development maybe isn't the best place to ask

[neat wolf]

Hello ! I have this error in my console with spigot 1.17.1 when I attack a giant and I move too far away. There are no other plugins on the server and the plugin only spawns the mob.

My Code :

public class TestMob extends EntityGiantZombie {
    public TestMob(final World w, String name, float health, double speed, double damage, double range, boolean grief, boolean projectile) {
        super(EntityTypes.G, ((CraftWorld)w).getHandle());
    }

    protected void initPathfinder() {
        this.bQ.a(1, new PathfinderGoalMeleeAttack(this, 0.5, true));
        this.bQ.a(2, new PathfinderGoalNearestAttackableTarget<>(this, EntityHuman.class, false));
    }

    public TestMob spawn(final Location loc) {
        this.setLocation(loc.getX(), loc.getY(), loc.getZ(), loc.getYaw(), loc.getPitch());
        ((CraftWorld)loc.getWorld()).getHandle().addEntity(this, CreatureSpawnEvent.SpawnReason.CUSTOM);
        return this;
    }
}

And the giant is removed from the world

anyone know why?

[delicate obsidian]

Does anybody know I can make players unable to extinguish themselves with water? EntityConbustEvent doesn't trigger for this interaction and a constant check wouldn't work at all

[umbral ridge]

¸ok

is this fish not a WaterMob

what tf

on PlayerFishEvent

this is also false for fishes

then what tf is a WaterMob

[remote swallow]

probably squids and fish

yup

[mellow pebble]

you want to prevent players from burning or ?

[umbral ridge]

subinterfaces: Fish

what is Fish

is it Raw Cod? or what

i guess it isnt? xD

[young knoll]

Itemstacks are not entities

[umbral ridge]

since instanceof gives me false

[delicate obsidian]

prevent player from stop burning by touching water

[remote swallow]

fish

[mellow pebble]

can someone help me with java in general i dont understand something with setting environment variables for java

[mellow pebble]

you can check if player has placed water to extinguish or you can check blocks around player and check if there is any water 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wet breach]

Until you drop them on the ground

[umbral ridge]

so if I check event.getCaught() instanceof Fish

would be better

[young knoll]

No

Because the caught entity is always Item

[umbral ridge]

getCaught is an entity

[hazy sail]

Hi, i'm trying to make bot with node-minecraft-protocol

how can i join bungeeserver with packets ?

can't use /server command

[umbral ridge]

Entity

[mellow pebble]

maybe use original minecraft protocol and you can use other libraries to send packets if you dont know how to do it yourself

[umbral ridge]

thats really interesting lol

[hazy sail]

I'm using the minecraft protocol, but to send a packet to the bungee cord to reach the server I want, what should the packet look like?

[young knoll]

I mean you always catch items when fishing

So

[mellow pebble]

did you check on here https://wiki.vg/Protocol

[mellow pebble]

also do you really need to send packet or you can literally just do it in plugin create channel and send 2 strings to bungee

[hazy sail]

I can't add a plugin to the server

and i've found tihs :

https://wiki.vg/Plugin_channels#bungeecord:main

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/#the-bungeecord-plugin-channel

[delicate obsidian]

checking for water around a player for this is so inconsistent

[mellow pebble]

just trying to help because i see nobody else gives a f**k

🤷🏻‍♂️

[hazy sail]

but i don't know how to implement that in javascript

[mellow pebble]

well really i have never tried to do this but i believe it shouldnt be much different than just following tutorial on how to communicate with bungeecord server for example to send player to another server

you most likely just need to send 2 parameters like shown in tutorial

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/sending-players-between-servers-in-bungeecord/

[delicate obsidian]

why are you so weird

[mellow pebble]

here

[delicate obsidian]

😂

[mellow pebble]

blocked

[mellow pebble]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

this one

try to use this as you can see how it is writing utf to ByteArrayDataOutput connect and then server name which is from config of bungee

[umbral ridge]

is there an event for this? when show creates these piles of sand?

[eternal night]

wild guess would be BlockFormEvent

[umbral ridge]

ahh that's probably it

thanks

[granite owl]

i just want one additional thread to communicate with a database without blocking the servers main thread

and have the 2 threads communicate via a shared data structure

[remote swallow]

async be like

[granite owl]

and thats where id use atomic operations

[granite owl]

thats still on the main thread tho?

[remote swallow]

no?

async is off the main thread

[granite owl]

if its in the context of spigot

[remote swallow]

no its still a different thread

idk where you got that idea

[eternal night]

I mean, coms with a DB are hard off the main thread if you need to ensure e.g. order

or you need the value back

[young knoll]

yay cache

[eternal night]

yay cache indeed

[young knoll]

Pee is stored in the cache

[granite owl]

ive been told awhile back by alot of ppl that the bukkitrunnable is sheduled but not actually multithreaded

[eternal night]

depends entirely on how you run it

[young knoll]

Regular tasks are run on the main thread

[eternal night]

tho I'd argue, BukkitRunnable is not what you want to use anyway

[young knoll]

Async ones are run in a thread pool

[granite owl]

my idea was to simply use the java Thread class

[eternal night]

I mean, what would that give you tho ?

[young knoll]

CompletableFuture my love

[slender elbow]

a Thread

[eternal night]

A thread that works away on a queue for DB tasks ?

[eternal night]

hush it woman

[granite owl]

yes?

[eternal night]

I mean, sure ?

fire and forget isn't the worst idea I guess but becomes ugly for reads

then you just end up smacking CompletableFutures into it

[granite owl]

i didnt think about how the threads communicate yet

the closest idea i have are pipes

but

i dont even know if java has access to that

[slender elbow]

threads themselves don't communicate

[umbral ridge]

Emily enters the chat

[slender elbow]

they just perform some work

you do the communication (or use a framework that provides the communication means)

[remote swallow]

CompletableFuture<String> future = CompletableFuture.supplyAsync(() -> {
    // DO SOMETHING
    return "HHELLO";
}

future.whenComplete((result, ex) -> {
    if ex != null theres error handle it cancel
    
    result is now HHELLO and your back on the main thread
});

[eternal night]

at which point, yea you'Ll just end up with a weird impl of CompletableFuture

and can probably just use that from the get go

[slender elbow]

there is rarely any benefit if at all in using Threads and queues directly

unless you are the one building the framework lol

[granite owl]

if database querys get large and the db gets large the load on the mainthread will increase enough to cause lag spikes

[young knoll]

Mhm

[remote swallow]

thats why you do it off the main thread, eg with futures

[young knoll]

And if it’s some nerd with a MySQL database in another country then… yeah

[umbral ridge]

I love mySQL

and im a nerd

🤓

[vocal cloud]

Insert delay at 150ms

[umbral ridge]

[insert meme here]

[minor junco]

I love postgres

and I'm a nerd too

🫠

[ivory sleet]

yea

same

postgre so nice

[cedar pine]

    @EventHandler
    public void onMenuClick(InventoryClickEvent menuClicked) {
        Player player = (Player) menuClicked.getWhoClicked();
        ShopData shopData = playerShopData.get(player);

        int clickedSlot = menuClicked.getSlot();
        boolean sendMessage = true;

        ShopSetupStage setupStage = this.playerSetupStage.get(player);

        if (clickedSlot == 3) {
            // Currency setup
            this.playerSetupStage.put(player, ShopSetupStage.CURRENCY_INPUT);
            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.YELLOW + "Enter the item type for currency in the chat. Valid currencies: " + validCurrencies);
        } else if (clickedSlot == 4) {
            // Price setup
            this.playerSetupStage.put(player, ShopSetupStage.PRICE_INPUT);
            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.YELLOW + "Enter the amount for the price in the chat. (Maximum: 64)");
        } else if (clickedSlot == 6) {
            // Finalize Shop button
            if (shopData != null && shopData.isShopComplete()) {
                // Check if the shop is complete
                this.playerSetupStage.put(player, ShopSetupStage.COMPLETE);
                player.sendMessage("Shop created at: " + player.getLocation());
            } else {
                // Notify the player if the shop is not complete
                this.playerSetupStage.put(player, ShopSetupStage.NONE);
                player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Shop is not complete. Please set currency and price first.");
                sendMessage = false; // Set to false to prevent sending the message twice
            }
        } else {
            sendMessage = false; // Set to false for other cases where no message should be sent
        }

        if (sendMessage) {
            menuClicked.setCancelled(true); // Cancel the click event to prevent issues
            player.closeInventory(); // Close inventory to avoid potential issues
        }
    }

Anyone know why the messages are being sent twice when I click currency input or price nput items?

Nothing else in the class sends twice, I think it's enums or I'm somehow calling it twice

[foggy cave]

hi

[slender elbow]

hello

[drowsy helm]

is the method itself being called twice?

also keep in mind that method iwll be called for every inventory

[cedar pine]

It’s just one gui menu

[cedar pine]

I triple checked and I can’t find any

Other buttons don’t send duplicate messages

[drowsy helm]

thats not what im asking

does the onMenuClick method get called twice per click

[cedar pine]

No, no reason to

That’s what I meant by saying I triple checked

[drowsy helm]

how come you are closing the inv for slot 6 but not the others

when it prompts a chat input

the hwole sendMessage boolean doesnt seem necessary

[silent tendon]

Hello, I'm starting to despair, I made a scoreboard, but I have the problem that as soon as I join, my rank is no longer displayed above my head and in the tab list.

Scoreboard:

public static Scoreboard getBaseScoreboard(Player player) {
        String display = "#0021E0A#0F30E3v#1E40E6e#2D4FE9r#3360EEu#3072F3m#2C84F8M#2996FDC";
        Scoreboard s = Bukkit.getScoreboardManager().getNewScoreboard();
        Objective objective = s.registerNewObjective("test", "dummy", Color.formatHexColor(display));
        objective.setDisplaySlot(DisplaySlot.SIDEBAR);
        objective.getScore("§7 ").setScore(12);
        objective.getScore("§8▶ §9Name").setScore(11);
        objective.getScore("§8➜ §e" + player.getName()).setScore(10);
        objective.getScore("§1 ").setScore(9);
        objective.getScore("§8▶ §9Rang").setScore(8);
        objective.getScore("§8➜ §rAdmin").setScore(7);
        objective.getScore("§6 ").setScore(6);
        objective.getScore("§8▶ §9Coins").setScore(5);
        objective.getScore("§3 ").setScore(3);
        objective.getScore("§8▶ §9Shop").setScore(2);
        objective.getScore("§8➜ §eTesting").setScore(1);

        Team team = s.registerNewTeam("Coins");
        team.addEntry(ChatColor.AQUA + "" + ChatColor.RED);
        objective.getScore(ChatColor.AQUA + "" + ChatColor.RED).setScore(4);

        team.setPrefix("§8➜ §e" + "TEst");
        return s;
    }

To set it I do this in the join event

player.setScoreboard(ScoreboardUtils.getBaseScoreboard(player));

[drowsy helm]

the rank above your head uses teams aswell

you will have to use the same team

[silent tendon]

Even when I remove teams I have the same problem

[drowsy helm]

when you remove the teams are you restarting the server

or just reloading

[silent tendon]

Restart

[drowsy helm]

weird

but either way it is the team

[silent tendon]

Look

[remote swallow]

oh boy i love type erasure

[dry forum]

when targeting a movingblock over a certain y value it just wont go there like its too high or sm, how do i fix this

[halcyon hemlock]

"it just wont go there"??

what won't

[dry forum]

the falling block is being shot from a location, 1, 1, 1 for example, and im shooting it to the location 10, 50, 10, for example, the fallingblock just wont go above a certain y level

[quaint mantle]

Hi guys

[candid inlet]

teams are scoreboard related, are you sure that the teams are registered in the new scoreboard? (also you spelled rank wrong in the sidebar)

[manic delta]

Is there any way to disable the particles generated by the rockets when used together with the elytras or when used with right click? I've been looking for how to do it and I can't find any way.

[silent tendon]

Yes, I'm sure the rank is correct since it's in German

[solid apex]

How can I set an Item in Stonecuter (In the "input" slot)?

[vocal cloud]

Using the inventory you can set the input slot item

[spare mason]

Is It possible to create spheres using block displays?

[buoyant viper]

jesus christ what is that game client

oh, fucking LABYMOD ?

[junior anvil]

does someone know how to apply force towards a player? for example shoving them away from a position

[candid inlet]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Entity.html#setVelocity(org.bukkit.util.Vector)

if you meant how to get the vector that would be the opposite of a specific position, just get the delta difference of the player's location and the position you want him to get away from relative to the position.

[charred blaze]

how do i save defaults of custom config?

[rare rover]

why tf does bukkit decide to do this?

[charred blaze]

figured it out

[rare rover]

its supposed to be <= not <

[silent tendon]

Yes Laby

[valid burrow]

why not

would’ve probably been more efficient to use Vektors but

this works

[rare rover]

cuz its only accurate for the min values

should be <=

had to make my own method to fix that issue 😦

[valid burrow]

did u at least use vektors

vectors

german autocorrect got me

[rare rover]

i did not 😦

legit just did this:

same thing just with <=

[valid burrow]

well

it works

but if u want a better solution use vectors

they almost double in speed i tried

[candid inlet]

you should have read the docs?... it already mentions it there

[valid burrow]

btw what class is that anyways

[rare rover]

BoundingBox

[valid burrow]

ah

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[valid burrow]

https://paste.md-5.net/aqahiwajor.java here it is with vectors

ah you use cords

well same thing

[valid basin]

Guys does someone know how to send explosion packet on latest spigot using packets?

Not nms

[inner mulch]

I dont think you can send packets with spigot, do you mean particle?

[orchid brook]

Hi im trying to learn pdc.
Im using this https://github.com/mfnalex/MorePersistentDataTypes
to store ItemStack and more in pdc without to have to encode my itemstack to base64 etc.

My question is about namespaceKey. If i have an item with a level, a player owner, a storage of item (list<ItemStack) do i need to register one namespacekey for each variable, so one namespacekey for my level, another one for the owner etc. Or just one namespacekey with a String as PersistentDataType

[drowsy helm]

Yes one per

[orchid brook]

Ok thx, and is it good if i register all my namespacekey as a static variable in my main class of the plugin?

[proud badge]

Yo does anyone know if gson saves strings with “ with a \ ?

[drowsy helm]

Yes

[drowsy helm]

Pretty sure you can yeah

Wait no you need plugin instance

[orchid brook]

private static MyPlugin instance;
public static NamespacedKey GENERATOR_NAMESPACE;

@Override
public void onEnable() {
    instance = this;
    GENERATOR_NAMESPACE = new NamespacedKey(this, "generator");
}

Yep like this ?

[drowsy helm]

Yeah pretty sure thats fine

[proud badge]

Ok so theres no reason to block quotes in commands where players are promted to enter a string?

[orchid brook]

thx 🙂

[drowsy helm]

Nah pretty sure it sanitises it

Double check tho

Worse come to worse just encode it

[quasi flint]

get AUTOcorrected

[umbral ridge]

nice xD postgre is nice indeed

[hazy sail]

Hi, i'm trying to send a packet to server (bungeecord)

to connect to a specific server

my console

  minecraft-protocol writing packet play.custom_payload +14s
  minecraft-protocol {
  minecraft-protocol   channel: 'BungeeCord',
  minecraft-protocol   data: <Buffer 43 6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 00 38 31 37 36 32 33 38 32 2d 62 32 30 35 2d 34 36 65 65 2d 38 33 33 64 2d 34 66 62 65 35 66 39 62 35 31 34 64>

[hybrid spoke]

what do you want to achieve? what have you tried? what is not working? what is your problem?

[hazy sail]

Basically, I want to make a bot that connects to a faction server.
When it connects to the server, it's on a lobby.
The /server command is disabled.

So I try to send a packet to the bungee so that it connects me

I found this : https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

my code :

        client.write('custom_payload', {
            channel: 'BungeeCord',
            data: new Buffer(['Connect', '81762382-b205-46ee-833d-4fbe5f9b514d'].join('\0'))
        })

https://prismarinejs.github.io/minecraft-data/?v=1.20.4&d=protocol#toServer_custom_payload

The problem is that the bot doesn't connect

[lost matrix]

You cant do what you are trying to do. The connect packet is sent by the mc server towards the player and intercepted by bungeecord.
Packets sent by the client towards the server on this channel are useless.

[hazy sail]

But what about the (normal) client?

Because to connect to the faction server, you go through a (custom) GUI and click on a button to connect to the server.

[lost matrix]

1. Client sends a button click to the server
2. Server sends a connect packet to bungeecord

[hazy sail]

oh ok

do you know button click packet ?

GUI looks :

[lost matrix]

find out the slot id and then send the click container packet:
https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Click_Container

There is def some utility by prismarine for this

[hybrid spoke]

damn thats a sick gui

[azure zealot]

just send a inventory click packet with the slotid where the item is

its not that hard

[hazy sail]

but need to click on gui (after item click)

click item → open gui → click on gui → connect to fac

[azure zealot]

what you mean by item click?

rightclick the item in your hand?

[hazy sail]

yeah or press "v" key

[hazy sail]

then open this gui

and click on fac serv to be connected

[azure zealot]

i didnt know there i an V keybind

[azure zealot]

and whats the problem with it its that simple xd

[hazy sail]

Yes, but how do I send the "I clicked on this faction server" packet?

it's modded server

[azure zealot]

Do you have an mcp bot or a protocol lib?

or do you send everything raw?

[hazy sail]

use node-minecraft-protocol

[azure zealot]

you need to send the windows click packet

with the specified slot id

[hazy sail]

But on gui there is no slot

[hazy sail]

.

[azure zealot]

there is

you just dont see it because of the texture pack

internally its a slot

[hazy sail]

it's modded server it's not a slot

[azure zealot]

are you 100% sure

if so you need to send the packet that the mod is sending

but if it has a custom packet for it you also need to impl that custom packet

but as its a gui it would likely be a inventory click packet as well

you could lookup the network

but you would need to decrypt everything

or you could debug it in you client

[lost matrix]

What mods or modpack?

[hazy sail]

Custom mod from server (obfuscated)

💀

[azure zealot]

deiobfuscate it

[hazy sail]

ur funny

[azure zealot]

100% rat

[hazy sail]

no

[azure zealot]

bro it looks like a damn rat

send me the mod

[lost matrix]

Its probably still a slot packet. Very rare that modders add a lot of protocol specifications.

[azure zealot]

as i said

[slender elbow]

If anything they use the custom payload packet (as they should, it is for custom payloads for mods to use)

but if it's a regular menu with funky fonts and offsets, then it's just common inventory stuff

[azure zealot]

but as its a kind of gui impl its probably just a custom gui iml with custom slot ids

[hazy sail]

check dm

[wet breach]

custom mod? Not sure why a custom mod needs to be obfuscated, but its not impressive to say the least either

obfuscation never stopped anything nor does it prevent someone from reading anything either

[azure zealot]

because they a tryna hiding the rat

[hazy sail]

Their core mod is obfuscated but the GUI lib is not

The server is: Paladium

biggest pvp-fac french server

[wet breach]

don't care about the server

I am probably one of few people here who don't care about MC servers

I never played on hypixel if that should tell you anything 😉

[azure zealot]

bro nobody plays on hypixel expect american people

[hazy sail]

it doesn't stop it, but it makes it very difficult

[wet breach]

no it doesn't

goes to show how much you know about it

[azure zealot]

i would kill myself before playing bedwoars with 300ms ping

[azure zealot]

not really

depends

[wet breach]

I can use a hexeditor to read java class files just fyi, your obfuscation only changes the class names, method names and variables, but it doesn't change how the program works, how java works or even change the bytecode

[azure zealot]

if they make a native obfucation and than also obfucate the natrive code or crypt it its very hard

[wet breach]

doesn't change the bytecode

[azure zealot]

obfuscators normaly do change the bytecode

[slender elbow]

I mean it depends on the obfuscator

and the settings

[azure zealot]

the most obfucators do change everything in the bytecode

[wet breach]

obfuscators do not add bytecode to java

[hazy sail]

when class look like this :

[azure zealot]

they do

[slender elbow]

some do

[wet breach]

so they introduce bytecode that the JLS doesn't have?

show an example please

[azure zealot]

there are also obfucators that remove als java bytecode translate it to native code and runs everything natively

[slender elbow]

why would the JLS have any bytecode?

[wet breach]

then I will believe the arbitrary introduction of unkown bytecode

[slender elbow]

JLS cares about the language, the VM about the bytecode

[wet breach]

either way, point is, there is no introducing random bytecode that java doesn't know unless you running a custom JVM

[azure zealot]

also yobfuscator can use bytecode instructions that are not allowed in default compilers

[wet breach]

but if you want to say there is, show me an example

[azure zealot]

but in jvm internals

[wet breach]

otherwise I call BS

[slender elbow]

no-one said it's introducing bytes the JVM doesn't know about

[azure zealot]

you can just remove all bytecode and make everything native

[slender elbow]

you just have to change the bytecode in a way that it performs the same logic in the end

[wet breach]

ok, so as long as you can't change the bytecode it can always be decompiled and it can always be read by anyone who knows how to read bytecode without decompiling

[azure zealot]

not really

[wet breach]

yes really

I do it all the time

[azure zealot]

if you replace string equality checks with hashcode of the string equality checks

[wet breach]

but what do I know bytecode must be magic as much as X86 instruction sets are

[azure zealot]

you couldnt tell what string is checked

also as i just said you can use jvm internal instructions that nobody realy knows xd

[wet breach]

but good news for me, as long as you keep believing your fantasies I continue to have a job charging as much as I want for security 😛

[wet breach]

its documented

but ok

[azure zealot]

ARE YOU SURE!?!?!

[wet breach]

yes, other then fact its open source as well

[slender elbow]

yes lol

[azure zealot]

show me the docs of all jvm internal instructions

[slender elbow]

docs.oracle.com

[inner mulch]

What is this?

[hazy sail]

classes in jar file (core mod)

[azure zealot]

show me the part of the jvm internal only instructions please

i dont think they are documented

[slender elbow]

"internal only instructions" is no such thing lmao

there are instructions

[azure zealot]

HAHAHA THERE IS

[wet breach]

wells its open source, so even if there isn't like hard documentation you could just look at the code

[azure zealot]

you just downt know xd

[azure zealot]

there is no docs you need to know the src

[wet breach]

there is docs

Anyways, continuing on, most of the JVM internals is instructions to native

[slender elbow]

?

there are no "internal" or "hidden" instructions

it's all publicly documented

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jvms/se21/html/jvms-4.html
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jvms/se21/html/jvms-6.html

[wet breach]

shhhh, its secret

[slender elbow]

would be a shame if anyone had access to https://github.com/openjdk/jdk

[wet breach]

lmao

[azure zealot]

its not documented here

[slender elbow]

what isn't?

[azure zealot]

FAST_INVOKEVFINAL

as an example

[slender elbow]

that is not a bytecode instruction, that's a hotspot optimisation

hotspot, linked above, is also highly documented

[azure zealot]

no its also an bytecode instruction lmao

[slender elbow]

not

[azure zealot]

you can use it in bytcode

ofcourse

[dry hazel]

what's the opcode then

[azure zealot]

int FAST_INVOKEVFINAL = 227;

seems like your stupid now hahaha

[slender elbow]

calling people stupid now

are you like 13?

[azure zealot]

yes

[slender elbow]

shoulda known

[azure zealot]

i like if it people have no idea but telling me i have no clue

[slender elbow]

I think we do have one or another idea of what we're talking about

[undone moon]

how to get input from sign in spigot 1.20

[azure zealot]

yes but all of you telling me i cant use FAST_INVOKEVFINAL in bytecode