help-development

[fluid river]

i thought about this in the beginning

but

[lost matrix]

And create a group inventory which holds quest items. Dont let them interact with it. Just place quest items in the groups quest item inventory.

[fluid river]

i'd like to let players actually do quests separately in some cases

[rapid pelican]

So depending on the quest type you change it

[fluid river]

but if they are close to each other and both come to a quest giver, i can give quest to both of them

[lost matrix]

Then abstract it away. Have an abstract QuestHolder and PlayerQuestHolder, GroupQuestHolder.
Assign quests to each holder depending on if its a group quest or not.

[fluid river]

but if one collects the knife, second get's quest state update same as first one

[lost matrix]

That sounds completely inconsistent?

[fluid river]

maybe

[rapid pelican]

Too many edge cases?

[fluid river]

i still need to think about it

yeah maybe the way with having group quest item container and group quest list is a good solution

best actually

[lost matrix]

I think before thinking about a solution, you should try to properly fetch out the actual problem.
Because this sounds like you are not even sure what you are trying to do in the first place.

[fluid river]

there are too many edge cases in every part of multiplayer

not just questing

[rapid pelican]

then abstract them like @lost matrix said

[fluid river]

let players modify the server world by doing quests

that's the only goal

no matter if they do it separately or together

world should change for both

[rapid pelican]

First test them using QuestHolder and PlayerQuestHolder, GroupQuestHolder

[lost matrix]

In that case you will have to create a decent system for keeping track of who has which active quest.
And dont forget that offline players can have active quests which might be done when they log back in.

[rapid pelican]

Afterwards make a system where it checks if they are in a specific radius

[fluid river]

so true

also a funny case

for example player logged out in a dungeon

and other player triggered it's collapse

[eternal oxide]

You just populate their active quests when they log in. Cycle over any they have ane remove dead ones.

[fluid river]

what would happen to player when he logs in

[lost matrix]

Each POI should have a default safe spot. If a player logs in while inside any POI, they simply always get teleported to the safe spot.

[eternal oxide]

Player logs in, you check their assigned quests and remove any that are dead/invalid

[fluid river]

am i actually allowed to continue the game if some of the players leave during the playthough...

for example For The King doesn't allow it

[lost matrix]

Depends on what you are aiming for

[eternal oxide]

if you store the active quest in the Players PDC you check if it's still actiuve/valid when they log in, if not you teleport them out

[fluid river]

just trying to get if open world rpg is even syncable

[fluid river]

i'm not coding it for minecraft

[eternal oxide]

ah

[fluid river]

but yeah i do have player pdc anyways

just differnt naming

[eternal oxide]

same principle

[fluid river]

I think i should actually copy mechanics from for the king

Its not an open world rpg but

It has some kind of separate questing

Even tho 3 players are in the same world

But what's actually interesting is that to continue journey you need to wait in a lobby for all saved players to connect

So if you start a coop with two playes, you need to wait for the second player to continue the next day

[proud badge]

What is a good pathfinding API/Algorythm that I could use?

For mobs

[fluid river]

So the host player stores server saves

[eternal oxide]

Most use a modified A*

But there was a BIG thread on mob AI

[fluid river]

And if his pc gets smashed, play through stops for everyvody

What do you guys think?

[eternal oxide]

No player should be dependant upon another for their game play.

They should have the option of restarting the quest

[granite owl]

this is more of a general java thing but yea, can someone explain to me exactly how java's serialization's forward/backwards compatibilities work what i can do and what i cant do?

because the docs are rare sparse on this

[lost matrix]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/platform/serialization/spec/version.html

Also: What the heck do you need that for?

[granite owl]

network communication not using the servers standard communication

also storing data to a database

[lost matrix]

Ok but the versioning is of no concern here. Thats an uninteresting implementation detail.

[rough drift]

Sorry didn't see the convo

World Unloading Memory Leak

[granite owl]

well i wonder for example, what happens if i add new fields to the class, remove no longer needed ones or rename fields

and then try to deserialize an older version on the harddrive back into an instance of the updated class

if data is simply lost if fields are deleted thats fine as theyre obv no longer needed but if it throws exceptions thats bad

[lost matrix]

I would just use json then. Serializing to binary blobs is kinda outdated imho.

[granite owl]

hm

[river oracle]

If you do wanna serialize to binary

Use a binary format like NBT

[slender elbow]

protobufs 🙏

[proud badge]

whats the method to make an item enchantment not show in lore?

As in make the item glow

nvm discovered ItemFlags

[young knoll]

Y2k NBT serialization api when?

[slender elbow]

no

what does that even mean lol

typical intellij

[hazy parrot]

Goofy ij

[granite owl]

ill check if it suits my purpose

[warm mica]

Or bson

[granite owl]

i wonder does the server just crash when it tries to exceed the specified heap size limit?

[river oracle]

Main reason I haven't is because of ItemStacks

They're a pain in the ass

[granite owl]

and if every instance has the chance to trigger the OutOfMemory exception, shouldnt virtually everything be wrapped in a try block to avoid the exception being propagated across the stack to the server?

[river oracle]

Pretty sure out of memory is an error

If it isn't thatd be wild

[granite owl]

sec

[river oracle]

If you're trying to recover from OOM you're doing something wrong

[granite owl]

error

[river oracle]

That's kinda irresponsible imho

[granite owl]

so just let it crash?

[river oracle]

Yes that's why OOM exists and why it's an error

[granite owl]

by propagating to the stacks top that the jre terminates the process?

[river oracle]

You're not supposed to recover from it

[granite owl]

hm

ok xD

[river oracle]

Errors mean oh shit this should never happen panic!!!!

Not yeah this happens sometimes whatever lmao

[granite owl]

but by that logic, certain plugins or java programs in general simply stop working at certain complexity

[river oracle]

Yeah all programs do lmao

[icy beacon]

?

[granite owl]

if not run with more heap size limit

[icy beacon]

Yehs

[river oracle]

If you run out of memory even your OS will crash

[icy beacon]

System requirements are a thing if you're talking about that

[river oracle]

Well to an extent

[granite owl]

i mean theres still the pagefile

in any reputable os

[river oracle]

Os tend to recover but it's because it controls that

But that's the lowest level lol

[granite owl]

just download more ram?

why is here no kekw meme

[river oracle]

I refuse to elaborate more but if you try and recover from OOM in a high level non important application you're stupid as hell

[icy beacon]

Has anybody yet figured out how to register an enchantment in 1.20.4+

I need dat glow on those items

Yeah

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.cephx.dev

[icy beacon]

??

I can't just browse all mappings in hopes of finding what suits me exactly

[river oracle]

Yes

Unfreeze the registry

And use nms

[icy beacon]

Ah fucking hell nms

Aighty I'll try ig

[granite owl]

but what about say terminating gracefully? e.g first save progress by reducing non relevant datas refcount to 0 to free up memory and then store progress before terminating?

[river oracle]

You're out of memory good luck performing those operations without any memory

[icy beacon]

That is exactly what I implied I couldn't do

?mappings is all mappings, did you want me to browse everything

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.cephx.dev

[granite owl]

hm

[river oracle]

You'd need assembly to keep things in the CPU registries and out of memory

[granite owl]

i mean i could with the jni but that defeats the purpose of plattform independency

[icy beacon]

That is closer to the truth. The reason I'm asking in the first place is because I didn't know what classes were relevant

Dude

[granite owl]

and i did before

[river oracle]

Or you could use Unsafe to just kill all the memory and use the empty space

[young knoll]

Did someone say unfreeze registry

[icy beacon]

Do you want me to guess blindly

[river oracle]

ZBL wants to register enchants

[icy beacon]

Do you have any other idea how to add glow to an item

[river oracle]

Teach the man

[icy beacon]

Idk, is there?

That is precisely why i am asking. I do not know

Yes

[river oracle]

Anyways I gotta go ill stick to my pont don't be an idiot

[young knoll]

Cursed code incoming

public static void unfreezeRegistry(Registry<?> registry) {
        try {
            Field intrusiveHolderCache = getField(MappedRegistry.class, Map.class, 5);
            intrusiveHolderCache.set(registry, new HashMap<>());

            Field frozen = getField(MappedRegistry.class, boolean.class, 0);
            frozen.set(registry, false);
        } catch (ReflectiveOperationException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```

[icy beacon]

This is infinitely more cursed than it was before 1.20.4 lol

Thx

[young knoll]

Actually I guess you need the full class

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[young knoll]

https://paste.md-5.net/yugiviqofu.cpp

[icy beacon]

I mean you were never supposed to register custom enchantments in the first place

[young knoll]

Now I gotta run before MD bans me

Kek

[icy beacon]

Thxx

[worldly ingot]

I gag a little each time you send this

[icy beacon]

Lmfao

[young knoll]

Oh no choco is here to ban me instead

[worldly ingot]

Technically they shouldn't be unfrozen at all

[eternal night]

not that registering custom things there is remotely a "supported" thing even if you'd have a way to edit the registries

[worldly ingot]

So the best way is the worst way possible lol

[icy beacon]

I wish there was just a way to make an item glow

How is that not a thing

Why does it have to be hacky

[worldly ingot]

Mojang pls

[eternal night]

Yea, throw things at mojang

I mean, we have VisualFire

where is VisualEnchantment

[worldly ingot]

Always forget about visual fire

[icy beacon]

Client does not recognize them

Or is that your question

Ah

[eternal night]

mojang

jk jk they have been implementing some sick changes for devs

[worldly ingot]

Well, enchantments are server-sided, their translations are client-sided

[shadow night]

sounds like texture packs

[worldly ingot]

:p No I think they just straight up don't render non-vanilla enchantments

[young knoll]

tbf

[icy beacon]

I don't see the reason why translations couldn't be done server-sided imo

[eternal night]

[young knoll]

Thew only reason the client doesn't understand custom enchantments is because they are communicated by id

[icy beacon]

Take the player locale, return the string

[worldly ingot]

Translation strings are best hosted on the client so the server doesnt' have to have a bazillion language files

• you can change strings whenever you want

[young knoll]

You don't want lolcats on the server?

[worldly ingot]

make your own languages

etc.

[shadow night]

I like pirate speach

[icy beacon]

Makes sense

[slender elbow]

conlang

[worldly ingot]

[shadow night]

I like the prereform russian langauge

[young knoll]

No one is stopping you

[young knoll]

Shh it works great, don't spoil my fun

[granite owl]

i keep asking myself why NMS mobs have methods defined to set their bounding box when the bounding box is client sided

[worldly ingot]

I mean yeah there is also the fact that you have to send lots of variable and potentially long String data to the client

And that's just for messages that get sent

Item data isn't sent each time it's looked at, for instance

[young knoll]

The NMS bounding box does work for some things

Like collision

[worldly ingot]

What if my item is in English but I throw it to my friend who's language is French?

or LOLCAT? :D

[young knoll]

kek

Idk choco maybe if that PR was merged

D:

[proud badge]

Hi, is there an API or some way to make a passive mob attack a player, or do I have to just damage the player when the mob is nearby?

[worldly ingot]

It's probably like "omg itme"

[granite owl]

yea but i tried to enlarge mobs to create custom bosses which naturally didnt work as intended by creating a custom mob all the way up from the base class

[young knoll]

You can make passive mobs angry yeah

[granite owl]

to figure that the actual fields are private

[young knoll]

It takes some... effort though

[granite owl]

that determine size server sided

[shadow night]

Qu'est-ce que cela signifie maintenant ?
- chatgpt

[young knoll]

Yeah you can

[proud badge]

Damn

Ik about pathfinding

Dk about attacking

[young knoll]

You also need to hack an attack damage attribute on to them since they don't have it by defau,lt

[worldly ingot]

It means you're shit out of luck as a French person trying to read an English-translated item

[granite owl]

pathfinder api but if u make them deal damage directly through the api of an aggressive mob the server crashes

[young knoll]

Hence the attribute hacking

[granite owl]

^^

[young knoll]

I have code for that too but it might kill choco

[worldly ingot]

plsno

[granite owl]

because polymorphy

[worldly ingot]

because this is a 2008 codebase

[young knoll]

what about a 2008choco?

[worldly ingot]

and we are in Java after all

Composition isn't its strongsuit

[lost matrix]

I remember doing that as well. It is some truly janky task to make a murder chicken

[granite owl]

i did make a murder chicken to test xD

u cant make the chicken deal dmg but the player can take damage that in turn can be attributed to the chicken as source

[worldly ingot]

It's not horrible, but it's no C++

Languages with actual templating make composition a lot easier

[young knoll]

Choco avert your eyes
https://paste.md-5.net/liwaxobaxo.java

[worldly ingot]

Java has to deal with generic hell

[echo basalt]

Your reflection utils are doodoo

[granite owl]

u mean the winapi's COM model?

[young knoll]

You got a problem with my reflection utils?

smh my head

[worldly ingot]

tbf, you can probably support a lot more versions if you're indexing by type rather than indexing by field index or by name

[young knoll]

Yeah that's why I do field type and index

Since the name will just be some magic obfuscated letters

I'll get on that when Mojang hires me

tru

[granite owl]

everytime i see code without forward declaration it kinda gives me chills despite java being perfectly adapted for it idek why

[young knoll]

glowstone

I think it died tho

[eternal night]

[young knoll]

Man I am tempted to poke plugin loading today

But idk if I want to cry

[granite owl]

u mean make /rl safe to use for production?

[young knoll]

no

That'll never happen

[granite owl]

🥺

[young knoll]

The game just isn't designed for it

[granite owl]

xD

[young knoll]

Get a faster pc

:p

tbf 1.20.5 should massivly help with startup time

[proud badge]

ok I just had a genious idea

[icy beacon]

Coll I need your help because I do not want to browse mappings, what types are this map of

[proud badge]

Im gonna put a zombie ontop of the cow (riding it) and make it invisible

[granite owl]

when i wrote my server architecture in C++ i made sure to make my /rl command safe to use (dlls tho/different project) just because i wanted it to just work xD

[icy beacon]

If you don't remember ig I'll ahve to browse

[young knoll]

Uhh

Lemme check

[quaint mantle]

Thats more like "spigot thread safety"

[river oracle]

My server starts up in like 3 seconds I think it's a pc issue

[ivory sleet]

It should be a bunch of HashMaps and IdentityHashMaps iirc

[young knoll]

private Map<T, Holder.Reference<T>> unregisteredIntrusiveHolders;

[icy beacon]

I presume T is Enchantment in this case?

[young knoll]

Should be

[icy beacon]

Ty

[granite owl]

iirc that was only one problem the other being that certain variables belonging to the servers vanilla functionality remain between /rls

i mean spigots "vanilla" functionality

but the whole server thread is by default single threaded anyways no?

[rotund pond]

Hello everyone
I'm looking for a spigot post explaining why we shouldn't use "Main" as a name for our spigot plugin.
Is there a command here ?

[granite owl]

with only a couple more for chatserver and login queue

[icy beacon]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/why-you-shouldnt-name-your-main-plugin-class-main.493289/ this?

[quaint mantle]

Pure spigot plugins should work perfectly when with rl but plugins thats depend on nms dont

[rotund pond]

Ah maybe, I've found it but I thought the one I was looking for was created during 2023

W/e, th

Ty

[ivory sleet]

i mean yeah, at least everything that gets invoked in the game loop

[tardy delta]

a thread being single threaded ah yes that sounds about right

[proud badge]

Has anyone else noticed that with maven § works but with gradle it doesnt

[quaint mantle]

Do utf-8 encoding

when build

[proud badge]

Non english characters also dont work with gradle

[proud badge]

Ok ill check

[quaint mantle]

lol the snakeyml api is so confusing

why do they use a list for a map

[icy beacon]

Ok if this works I'm a magician https://paste.md-5.net/cisovuyiro.makefile

[river oracle]

pfff this guy clearly doesn't know how maps work under the hood

wait till he figures out maps are just fancy lists with extra steps

[quaint mantle]

yeah but the class doesn't even act like a map

to insert values this is how

[river oracle]

what does a NodeTuple do

[quaint mantle]

prob a class with a bunch of data

ig it makes sense to a certain extend

[river oracle]

what a NodeTuple does is kinda important 🥲

for example HashMaps have nodes too well atleast in separate chaining

@young knoll you gotta let me know when the slime merges something Commodore.java so I can begin the work I was put on this earth to do

[bleak eagle]

question - are the address and telephony fields in the cla reeealllyy necessary? i know they're marked as such in the form but i'm not too comfortable providing those and email is good enough to contact me

[icy beacon]

How do I add a NMS enchantment to an item

[icy beacon]

Reason: this

[remote swallow]

its probably a legal requirement

[bleak eagle]

yeah no i'm aware, but is it just a "gotta have this on paper" kind of thing/will anyone get in trouble if i leave the fields empty/gibberish?

[river oracle]

its a legal document. If you leave the spaces blank your application will likely be rejected

MD will not leak your address or telephone they are purely used for legal filings

they are not public either

[icy beacon]

Y2K, any idea? 🥲 You seem to be somewhat familiar with nms

[river oracle]

you can also specify your stash name to be a username instead of your real name if you are uncomfortable with that

[bleak eagle]

no my name is fine

just extra personal info

[river oracle]

Unfreeze the Enchantment registry

[bleak eagle]

but yeah fuck it

[river oracle]

this can be done with reflection

[icy beacon]

This

Really did not answer my question

[river oracle]

idk exactly how to do it lmao @young knoll is the master of registry unfreezing

[icy beacon]

No like

This is literally not even close to what I'm asking

I'm not asking how to register an enchantment

[river oracle]

you'll need to extend an NMS enchantment after that then register it

NMS enchantment extension should provide you all the data you need to setup your enchantment

[icy beacon]

I have a NMS enchantment

How do I add it to an item

[river oracle]

you can than retrieve it from the bukkit registry using Registry.ENCHANTMENT

[icy beacon]

O

[river oracle]

I'd reccomend making static fields with all your enchantments

then you have the bukkit version of your enchantment

[icy beacon]

I have direct access to the variable which is my nms enchantment

Can I just convert it to a bukkit enchantment

[river oracle]

to do that you go through the registry with bukkit

[icy beacon]

Kk

[river oracle]

Registry.ENCHANTMENT.get(NamespacedKey.fromString("key:myenchantment")

[icy beacon]

Wait uh

[river oracle]

also note it might be like Registry.ENCHANTMENTS or Registry,ENCHANTS

or something

[icy beacon]

When creating a NMS enchantment I do not specify a key though?

[river oracle]

when you register it to the NMS registry you do

[devout pivot]

I asked this before but didnt get any ans so asking again

I dont know anything about plugin development. theres a plugin i want to use but it isnt up to date. the last version it was updated to was 1.19 and I want to know how much do I have to learn to update that plugin on my own

[river oracle]

you have to specify a ResourceKey

[icy beacon]

Ah yea

I forgot I did that

[river oracle]

kotlin cringe

[icy beacon]

I provide a String though and it's also accepted

[river oracle]

it might prefix it with minecraft then

[icy beacon]

Convenient

Fair enough I'll try that

[river oracle]

I highly reccomend you use your own namespace though

[icy beacon]

Tyty

Yeah I will try that

[river oracle]

if the plugin doesn't use NMS you don't have to change anything

[devout pivot]

how do check if it uses NMS or not

[river oracle]

is it open source?

[devout pivot]

yeah

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/anti-farm.99472/

https://github.com/bagdydad/AntiFarm

[river oracle]

it'll work on latest

no internals are used 👍

[devout pivot]

then when will it stop working

i mean at one point it has to stop working with the latest versions right?

[icy beacon]

Not unless spigot introduces a breaking change into some of the API you use

Or unless you use NMS (which you most often shouldn't and currently you don't)

[devout pivot]

alright then thanks

and i want to get into developing plugins for my server so can you suggest me how i should start

[chrome beacon]

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[undone axle]

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[remote swallow]

thats so long now

[icy beacon]

Not long enough

[devout pivot]

alright

[echo basalt]

baeldung my beloved

[surreal hornet]

if you prefer learning from video you can learn both java (or kotlin) and spigot from Kody Simpson

Kaupenjoe also has a super great and short java series that learn most of the thing you need in a super short time period

[river oracle]

has kody gotten better at coding?

much of the code from his videos is icky atleast the ones I watched

the real meta play is to watch The New Boston

[surreal hornet]

i mean yeh sometimes he do questionable things (i still dont know why he used linear search instead of hashmap on his gson video) but i* think hes a great starting point

[icy beacon]

His videos shouldn't be used to learn coding but they are good to get a grasp of the Spigot API imo

[surreal hornet]

yep i agree

[proud badge]

Whats the keybind to make this appear on intellij? It sometimes does and it sometimes doesnt

[eternal night]

its called "parameter info"

check up what your keymap has it set to

[proud badge]

Ok thx

[icy beacon]

Ctrl+P

[surreal hornet]

i say you can learn spigot api and basic stuff from kody (u just need to watch 30 video at must) then u can learn designing patterns from Geekific series. (bc kody sucks at designing patterns)

[minor junco]

no clue what you're talking about exactly, but sometimes linear search can be more optimized than hashmaps

for a small amount of elements

[echo basalt]

https://paste.md-5.net/owigajolew.cpp Any idea why this doesn't work? All the coordinates are right, the method returns 0 changes

Here's my mask -> Mask barrierMask = BukkitAdapter.adapt(Material.BARRIER.createBlockData()).toMask();

[icy beacon]

Shouldn't sessions be committed or smth

1 sec

[echo basalt]

Already tried that

what if I invert the mask

Yeah that worked lmfao

im an idiot

[icy beacon]

Ok apparently not always because this code works fine

[icy beacon]

Lmao

GG

[twin venture]

Hi , uhh just a question does sqlite not work with latest version?

the file is being created , but nothing happens when player join , or leave it does not load , nor create , or save his data to the sqlite data file

[echo basalt]

did you register your listener

[twin venture]

but if i use mysql it works just fine , and btw the sqlite was working for older versions

only for 1.20.4 it stoped working .

[echo basalt]

show code

[twin venture]

the same code i use for other versions , for example 1.16.5 , or older it works , and the data is loaded ..

idk why it happens .. for only 1.20.4

[quaint mantle]

lmao that class name

[minor junco]

Longest class name award goes to

[twin venture]

yeah sorry abt that

gonna remake it sooner or later

[minor junco]

That is for real the longest name that is not a troll I've seen in a while god damn

[rough drift]

May I introduce you to

[minor junco]

SkyPvPSQLiteProfileDataManagerProvider dataManagerProvider = new SkyPvPSQLiteProfileDataManagerProvider(plugin);

Jesus

(no I don't use var)

[rough drift]

https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition/blob/uinverse/src/main/java/com/seriouscompany/business/java/fizzbuzz/packagenamingpackage/impl/strategies/adapters/FizzBuzzOutputStrategyToFizzBuzzExceptionSafeOutputStrategyAdapter.java

[minor junco]

What the frick

[vocal cloud]

If you want a real-world example Spring Boot is cheating
https://docs.spring.io/spring-framework/docs/current/javadoc-api/org/springframework/web/servlet/support/AbstractAnnotationConfigDispatcherServletInitializer.html

[twin venture]

haha thanks god , my class is not the longest xD

anyway , ihave another question .. about libraries

so for example i have been using a library but its removed from github , but i have the latest version my pc , i mean the source , how i can use it in maven? the one that is in my pc

it does not support 1.20.4 , and i want to add support for that cuz my plugin stoped working :p

[rapid pelican]

if it was removed from github I don't think it should be removed from mvn repositories

https://mvnrepository.com
Look it from mvnrepository website

[twin venture]

it was on github

[rapid pelican]

You want to modify the code?

[remote swallow]

mvn install it

[twin venture]

adding support to 1.20.4

[rapid pelican]

If you can obtain the latest build, try contacting the developer if he allows the modification of the code

[remote swallow]

if you have source just modify andmvn install it

[rapid pelican]

You can do that

[twin venture]

Hi iam getting an error ..

iam trying to install 1.20.4 using buildTools , i downloaded the latest one from spiot just now

[proud badge]

What else extends Golem?

Is it only IronGolem?

[twin venture]

any idea?

[blazing ocean]

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot
BungeeCord
BungeeCord Chat

[blazing ocean]

https://jd.papermc.io/paper/1.20/org/bukkit/entity/Golem.html

[sullen canyon]

Hello I have a question related to redis/mongodb and designing my minigame network the right way

So, generally it would be better if I loaded statistics from database when I needed it instead of keeping the data in redis once the player joined?

For example for now I actually cache data so I do not ask neither redis nor db to get the data when I only need to display it. Also I load statistics from db to redis when a player connects to proxy and upload it from redis to db when a player disconnect from proxy. Is it a good way of doing this or there is something I would want to change to improve the current base I have?

(Also, when I need to change player's statistics and he is online then I do this on redis's side, when he is offline I directly change it in the db)

because as minikloon said it's overcomplicating and doesn't make much sense using redis since the query response time of redis and mongodb relatively unnoticeable

[chilly hearth]

What is that class name

[glad oriole]

Would any help with configs on /quests /menus and real scoreboard?

[icy beacon]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[icy beacon]

Also this is for #help-server

Has anybody worked with both Kodein DI and Dagger? What is your preference and why? I want to use some DI lib for but not sure which one would be a better fit. Is it just a matter of preference? I already sorta have experience with Dagger (Dagger Hilt with Android but not just Dagger)

Ping me if you respond plz

[blazing ocean]

it depends, how big is your playerbase? im working on an event (40 people, not more) and mongo works just fine for me, if ran non-blocking. if your playerbase is <100 people i think its way too overkill.

[silent cove]

is there anything that can be done about your plugins ending up on black spigot

[chrome beacon]

Yes you should be able to DMCA them since they're distributing your copyrighted stuff

might not be worth it though

[silent cove]

that's unfortunate

does spigot about licensed plugins that are premium? seems like the rules kinda tie the hands of the developer and just say welp, nothing you can do to stop it.

[chrome beacon]

There's not much Spigot can do

So you as the developer have to take action

which most likely will cost more than just letting it be

[silent cove]

yeah, its not really about money. its just the point of it.

I make like .60 per purchase of my plugin after fees usually.

spigot could do things, by allowing developers to obfuscate their code, and allow for licensed plugins

[chrome beacon]

Obfuscation and licensing won't stop anything

all it will do is introduce potential security problems

[silent cove]

they why isn't intellij ultimate/webstorm, any jetbrains products being pirated? they're all java applications

[chrome beacon]

I wouldn't say theres a need for it

besides you could probably find them pirated if you wanted to

but you might end up in trouble if you try to sell anything you make with it

[twin venture]

how i can fix this?

i have been trying for 2 hours now

[chrome beacon]

Did you try rerunning in an empty folder

[twin venture]

yeah i tried

[chrome beacon]

Try running Spigot without the GUI using Git bash

[vocal cloud]

99% of the pirating market for Intellij's software are students anyways. Jetbrains is smart and made the student license. They know it'll be abused but it's not what matters. What matters with Intellij is that when you join a company you'll want to use it and you'll have to pay or they can sue your company for millions.

[worldly ingot]

There's a strong difference between you, a nobody developer, and IntelliJ, a software conglomerate with lawyers out the ass

[silent cove]

for sure, that 's much is understood. I just mean that there's really not ample resources out there for pirated of 'cracked' versions of jetbrains products is all i was saying

[worldly ingot]

They can usually enforce the legal documents they draft :p

[silent cove]

counter to the "that won't help" claim

so its not a matter of the systems working, you're saying its the threat of punishment that works?

[worldly ingot]

They may just be tougher on it. It's relatively difficult to find good Adobe cracks as well. They're on top of things like that legally

[vocal cloud]

If a server steals your software you'll know because to provide support you ask for proof of purchase. Just ask Alex he gets plenty of pirates coming to him I'm sure. The secret sauce is the people stealing it probably don't have a server worth anything anyways.

[worldly ingot]

I believe there are some Adobe cracks that do work, but they're severely outdated and at that point it's just not worth the effort because it drives interest to their newer versions and ultimately benefits them

"Hey, want new features? Now that you've tried it for free and your workflow relies on it, buy them!"

[silent cove]

alright

[rough ibex]

they reel you in

[vocal cloud]

People will pay for the convenience of having direct access to you for support. Providing good support to proof-of-payment customers.

[worldly ingot]

It ultimately comes down to "Stay on top of things legally, anything willing to stay out there probably isn't worth your effort anyways"

[vocal cloud]

No one has come here complaining about mass piracy. You could use bstats to track some metadata (or use your own API) but at the end of the day it's not worth the effort.

[tame wolf]

Reminds me of people that hide their /plugin list

[worldly ingot]

I mean listen, hiding versions I can maybe understand. Hiding plugins and authors is annoying

I never put a permission behind my /<plugin> version commands so if someone really wants to hide that my plugin is installed, they have to install a plugin to block my commands :p

[silent cove]

I'm not complaining about mass piracy. I don't have some super populate plugin. It was just a passion project in university that actually turned out pretty cool. I don't do it for money, I have nether even withdrawn the funds I've accrued from it. I have a career, it was just the ethics of it all that bothered me and I wondered if there's anything to be done.

[tame wolf]

Like, if you need to hide your plugins so you don't get copied, your server is shit

[rough ibex]

hypixel
/s

[silent cove]

most servers hide their plugins..

[worldly ingot]

[silent cove]

not justifying it, but your statement is false

[twin venture]

i have made a plugin and i got 91 buyer over 2 years of hard work , is there a way to get more customers?

[remote swallow]

hypixel has icanhasbukkit last time i checked so its good enough

[worldly ingot]

Make something a bit more unique I suppose. It comes down to a good balance between unique but still useful enough

[tame wolf]

You could make tiktoks about it

[rough ibex]

they used to have /about I think

[twin venture]

Good idea :p

[rough ibex]

and it said running on a modified version of Spigot

[hushed scaffold]

yeah so its not as easy to find a vulnerability in one of the plugins

[worldly ingot]

TikToks might work, but it's a paid product so ehhh

[tame wolf]

Who would go to those type of lengths?

[worldly ingot]

You've gotta convince a TikTok viewer to buy something

[river oracle]

Lol security through obscurity has never and will never work

[rough ibex]

making a tiktok about it is going to be forced and disingenuous

[hushed scaffold]

? ?

[silent cove]

sure, whatever the reason, they are hiding it. I just think the claims of "if you need to hide the list, you're a lame-o" is dumb

[worldly ingot]

hiding versions I can maybe understand. Hiding plugins and authors is annoying

It's snuffing out the hard work of the plugin authors

[hushed scaffold]

sure thats fair

[worldly ingot]

You did not make that plugin, it's not fair to hide our names

[rough ibex]

I think hypixel actually uses a modified version of Citizens

and they have a small base dependency on NCP

[worldly ingot]

I can totally understand hiding version numbers though for vulnerability reasons

Bugs get fixed, bugs get abused, all that

[river oracle]

If the exploit exists and there is someone who wants to abuse it hiding the plugin name won't stop you e.g. the Vulcan exploit I'm sure most servers hid that they had Vulcan but that didn't stop them from falling victim to the exploit

[twin venture]

but i see some product (plugins ) that are not good , and it has like hundreds of buyers ..

[vocal cloud]

That was the worst MC video I've ever watched ngl

[silent cove]

dumb kids be dumb kids.

[worldly ingot]

Yeah I get that. Either a stroke of dumb luck or they got there first

[river oracle]

?? What video

[worldly ingot]

There really are some dogshit premium resources that get way more downloads than they deserve lol

[vocal cloud]

This crap

[river oracle]

??

[tame wolf]

Log4J

[river oracle]

Never seen it

[twin venture]

indded

[tame wolf]

Is my first thought

[silent cove]

the baitest thumbnail and title ever

[worldly ingot]

lmao no it was them checking for GUI functionality via inventory names

[vocal cloud]

Yeah, they claim that Log4J is a "java exploit" and therefore not applicable

[tame wolf]

Wat

That makes 0 sense

[silent cove]

which is worse

[worldly ingot]

So someone figured that out, renamed a chest to one of Vulcan's administrative GUIs, and allowed them to run any command

This is the reason you don't use inventory names to check for GUIs

[river oracle]

Yep

[worldly ingot]

Honestly impressed nobody found out sooner

[river oracle]

This is why hashes rain Supreme lol

[rough ibex]

wow that is pretty bad

[vocal cloud]

They attempt to brush Log4J off but they're still wrong

[tame wolf]

Is there even a reason to check for inventory name?

[rough ibex]

not even permission checking the actual actions?

[proud badge]

            if(getNearestPlayer(golem) != null) {
                golem.setTarget(getNearestPlayer(golem));
            }
            if((count.get() & 30) == 0 && count.get() != 0) {
                golem.setVelocity(new Vector(0, 1, 0));
            }
            if ((count.get() & 10) == 0 && count.get() != 0) {
                golem.getLocation().getWorld().playSound(location, Sound.ENTITY_WARDEN_SONIC_CHARGE, 1.0F, 1.0F);
                Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(HeeseDungeons.getInstance(), () -> {
                    drawParticleLineBetweenEntities(golem, getNearestPlayer(golem), Particle.REDSTONE, 10);
                    getNearestPlayer(golem).damage(5.0, golem);
                    golem.getLocation().getWorld().playSound(location, Sound.ENTITY_WARDEN_SONIC_BOOM, 1.0F, 1.0F);}, 60);
            }
            count.getAndIncrement();
        }, 20, 20);``` Hi, is it not possible to run a runTaskLater inside of a runTaskTimer? The code at runTaskLater does not get executed later

[rough ibex]

no but it's the naive approach

[tame wolf]

Like, if you open the GUI then no need to check the name

[charred blaze]

its not log4j

[tame wolf]

You know what you're on

[river oracle]

For the events you need to know

The best way to do this is hashing with a handler

[tame wolf]

Fair

Or even adding an invisible character

[river oracle]

Map<Inventory,Handler?

[worldly ingot]

You can, yes. But I think your logic is a bit backwards

[rough ibex]

not going to work

[river oracle]

No that's still naive

[rough ibex]

again, obscurity

[proud badge]

Ok, whered I mess up?

[rough ibex]

also 'invisible character' can be defeated by a rspack

[worldly ingot]

Oh, there's also the fact you're using & to compare instead of ==

:p

[vocal cloud]

It's terrible design because you should only check permissions. If someone has permission who cares if they're renaming things?

[worldly ingot]

Or, rather, you probably want %

[silent cove]

also spigot says plugins can't be obfuscated, but I own multiple plugins that are heavily obfuscatred that I purchased from spigot. I guess its about who you know

[proud badge]

Im trying to see if the number is divideable by 20 or 30

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, you want %, not &

[rough ibex]

limited obfuscation

[proud badge]

Oops

[kind hatch]

Obfuscation is allowed under certain circumstances.

[charred blaze]

yea just check permissions

[silent cove]

literally one of them reports a virus on windows defender, and they say "just ignore it, its our plugin obfuscation"

[river oracle]

If you believe a plugin is infringing on the rules big or small report it

[silent cove]

i just laughed. i havent played in months but i stil lurk in the discord

[proud badge]

Though why does the SONIC_CHARGE part get executed but not the SONIC_BOOM?

[charred blaze]

how do spigot staff check plugin's code if its obfuscated

they dont?

[silent cove]

highly doubt anyone is checking code

[river oracle]

Obfuscation to the level where it can't be read is not allowed

[river oracle]

Code is checked for premium plugins

It's why it can take months to be approved

[charred blaze]

then whats the point of obfuscation

[vocal cloud]

I imagine if reported it is

[silent cove]

well i can guarntee you that this plugin IS compeltely obfuscated to the point where it cnanot be read, and windows defender thinks its a trojan

[river oracle]

Then report it and let staff deal with it

Likely they'll give them a chance to change it then remove the plugin

[silent cove]

this plugins has many thousands of downloads. dude its about who you know. they're not gonna do crap

[eternal oxide]

plugin name?

[river oracle]

You say that yet you've not tried to report it

[silent cove]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/1-13-1-20-4-⭕-advancedenchantments-⭐-450-custom-enchants-⭐create-custom-enchantments-✅-35-sale.43058/

[kind hatch]

That's not true. There have been premium plugins that have been taken down for introduction of malware. You'll also get notified when a resource gets removed.

[silent cove]

i haven't played in several months, I just recently saw in the discord players complaining about a "virus" and they just responded with oh you can ignore that, its because of the obfuscation. so i looked at the plugin and its completely obfuscated to the point where you cannot make heads of tails of anything

[river oracle]

then you should report it instead of being all doomer about it

its likely this was introduced after the plugin was approved

[shadow night]

Java apps are commonly recognized as malware, so I don't see unusual stuff lol

[silent cove]

im not going to, because i think they should be allowed to obfuscate it

[charred blaze]

what are u trying to achieve

[silent cove]

im all for protecting your work

[river oracle]

obfuscation is the least close thing to protecting your work xD if I had 14 dollars to spare I'd crack it open and de-obfuscate it

[tame wolf]

Then what are you complaining about

[eternal oxide]

Its likely YOU can't understand it but basic obfuscation is permitted. Report it if you are concerned and believe it's breaking the TOS

[kind hatch]

You need me to spot you? lol

[silent cove]

what a terrible thing to say/do

[river oracle]

nah cuz I'd need to learn how to work deobfuscater tools

and I've got exams this week

maybe at a later date

with Cmarco's stuff

[silent cove]

I'm not concerned with it in the slightest, I was just saying there are plugins who do it and get away with it. Tough crowd in here.

[tame wolf]

Just report them then?!

[kind hatch]

You do realize that java is an easily de-compilable language right?

[silent cove]

Dude, no.

[river oracle]

I'd report, but I haven't bought the plugin so I couldn't

so i can't see for myself

[tender shard]

it's not even obfuscated - they only removed local variable names?

[river oracle]

ta fuq

yeah that looks pretty obfuscated

[remote swallow]

kekw

thats way too much obsfucation

[river oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[silent cove]

maybe theyt removed it after the virus warning and complaints? i don't know

[kind hatch]

You know, if windows defender is throwing warnings about a file, then something probably infected it.

[river oracle]

yeah especially since it never touches jar files xD

[silent cove]

i havent used it in like 8 months, i wouldn't know

[kind hatch]

Then why are you complaining? xd

[river oracle]

I've run so many windows viruses jars you can do insane shit without getting detected

[silent cove]

who's complaining?

[remote swallow]

you are

[silent cove]

wrong.

[eternal oxide]

I've seen a lot of poeple get infected jars from NON spigot site and end up having all their plugins infected.

[remote swallow]

you were complaining about 5 minutes ago

[silent cove]

wrong.

[twin venture]

i had removed everything and , run it in an empty folder :

any fix?

[river oracle]

is this BT?

[valid burrow]

league is crashing my audio but everything is up to date idk what to update anymore 😭

[twin venture]

yes

trying to download 1.20.4

[river oracle]

did you try running it through Gitbash?

[kind hatch]

Resource temporarily unavailable? tf is that error?

[twin venture]

should i?

[river oracle]

yes

also @twin venture show @kind hatch the full error

he is the GUI wizzard

[kind hatch]

?paste your log

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[river oracle]

Shadow my guess is that its GPU issues

[kind hatch]

But it says it happens in applyPatches.sh

[river oracle]

It mentions some Cwlng I believe it was

[river oracle]

well yes because the process terminates

[kind hatch]

Ohh

[twin venture]

i could not use , this didn't work

[river oracle]

use patebin then

https://pastebin.com

[twin venture]

i have gtx 1050 ti oc editon 4vram ..

[rough ibex]

Trusted by PIka Network
lmao

[remote swallow]

gpu doesnt matter on bt

[chrome beacon]

same

[twin venture]

https://pastebin.com/Kh1Ra7a0

[river oracle]

it does actually

[twin venture]

it fail here :
like it finish download and patching the classes

but after a while it send that

btw i run the buildtools in a empty folder nothing in there..

[river oracle]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8107319/cygwin-git-error-cygheap-base-mismatch-detected

just try restarting your computer

[kind hatch]

That's a wild error.

[river oracle]

my guess is the environment is totally fucked

windows usually fixes this itself on restart

[twin venture]

lr gonna try to do that

[kind hatch]

When all else fails

May also want to check for system updates

A lot of stuff I see related to cygwin is around GitHub desktop.

[chrome beacon]

^^ recent windows update fixed my stability problems and bugs

Not sure how LTSC ended up so unstable and bugged

[proud badge]

What seems to be the issue, why is it red?

Nvm I imported the wrong bossbar

[plush gulch]

Location l = target;

Vector direction = sheep.getLocation().toVector().subtract(l.toVector());

sheep.teleport(l);
sheep.getLocation().setDirection(direction);

I tried using this code to hava a sheep look in the direction it's "moving", but the direction stays the same

[kind hatch]

@twin venture Did that restart help?

[brazen badge]

Kindly, could anyone send me an example of a region setter using the PlayerInteractEvent event? I just need to know how to get the points and that there is only one player who can do this and therefore prevent the event from blocking if other players place blocks.

[twin venture]

not really , still

i gaved up i will just use

[brazen badge]

https://paste.md-5.net/fanezaripe.cs

I had this but it doesn't work as correctly as I would like

[twin venture]

<systemPath>${project.basedir}/libs/spigot.jar

to maven

[plush gulch]

can you get pitch and yaw from a vector?

[lost matrix]

You can calculate the angle between the vector and an axis. Other than that a vector doesnt really have a pitch.

[plush gulch]

yaw is what I want

[lost matrix]

Relative to what exactly?

[plush gulch]

I want an entity to look in the direction of a vector

so relative to its location?

[solemn meteor]

I feel like this is a mega beginner version but the answers that appear on google doesn't clarify this. In CommandExecutor, the onCommand() method, is there a difference by returning true or false? They both just end the code, so I'm confused. Some forum commenter said that false is for misuse or bad usage but I still don't get it. Is it just to make your code more readable?

[lost matrix]

The yaw needs to be calculated relative to an axis. Presumably x or z

[eternal oxide]

what entity?

[remote swallow]

returning false will send usage defined in plugin.yml

[plush gulch]

a sheep, why?

[plush gulch]

ok, I think I have a wrong understanding of yaw and pitch, will look into it

[solemn meteor]

Ohhh

[remote swallow]

a lot of people just return true and send there own usage, but its designed for true for a valid and passing command and false for invalid or failing

[solemn meteor]

What does the usage message look like

[remote swallow]

whatever you define in plugin.yml

[solemn meteor]

and it just sends that?

[remote swallow]

iirc yeah

[solemn meteor]

alright alright

[chrome beacon]

^^

[solemn meteor]

makes everything clear to me

thanks for help

[brazen badge]

I would also be fine with a series of points of what I have to do

[eternal oxide]

a sheep doesn't have a separate head so you can just set the direction

[plush gulch]

I tried that, but it didn't work for me

Location l = target;

Vector direction = sheep.getLocation().toVector().subtract(l.toVector());

sheep.teleport(l);
sheep.getLocation().setDirection(direction);

[eternal oxide]

why teleport before setting direction?

[plush gulch]

because it has to move

[eternal oxide]

set direction before you teleport

[lost matrix]

You need to set the direction of your teleport location and then teleport the entity to it.

[plush gulch]

why? I calculate the direction beforehand, so it shouldnt matter no?

[eternal oxide]

because you are modifying a copy of it's location

speep.getLocation() returns a copy of it's Location

[lost matrix]

Just let the player select two Blocks and then create a BoundingBox using BoundingBox.of(Block, Block)

[solemn meteor]

Does adding a permission on a command checks the player's permission for me instead of adding a permission check code?

[eternal oxide]

yes

[solemn meteor]

damn

[brazen badge]

my problem is to take the two locations with two different clicks

[solemn meteor]

alright thanks

[plush gulch]

hm, still not changing direction on teleporting

                Location l = koordinatenToLocation(targetKoordinaten);

                Vector direction = s.getLocation().toVector().subtract(l.toVector());

                s.getLocation().setDirection(direction);
                s.teleport(l);

[chrome beacon]

Save the first click somewhere

Like a Map for example

[chrome beacon]

again you're modifying a copy of the location

[brazen badge]

and up to here. But if there is another player on the server who places blocks or does something else and the event detects it, how do I block the other players?

[plush gulch]

but setLocation is not a thing as far as I am aware and teleport doesnt have a direction parameter?

so how do I change it

[lost matrix]

Create a class like this and put it in a Map<UUID, BoxSelection> where every player has its own selection.

public class BoxSelection {

  private Location first;
  private Location second;

  public void setNext(Block block) {
    if (first == null) {
      first = block.getLocation();
    }
    second = block.getLocation();
  }

  public boolean isComplete() {
    return first != null && second != null;
  }

  public BoundingBox buildBox() {
    return BoundingBox.of(first.getBlock(), second.getBlock());
  }

}

[eternal oxide]

modify l, then teleport

[plush gulch]

oh

yeah

I'm stupid, sorry

[chrome beacon]

You want to stop other players from placing blocks while someone is creating a region?

[brazen badge]

no, I want the event to detect only who gave the command to start the region. P.s: I pass the name of a player into a map

[chrome beacon]

Use the uuid

and store the uuid of the one who ran the command

in a set or smth

[inner mulch]

Arent enums breaking the open closed principle?

[lost matrix]

Enums by nature contain all their possible values which will ever be available.
There is no need or reason to ever extend them, which makes them irrelevant for the open closed principle.

[inner mulch]

okay, so i guess its my problem for using them for extension?

[young knoll]

yes

[rough ibex]

you made an OOPsie

[inner mulch]

yes :(

but in this case i would never use enums, as im never sure if i ever need to add categories

i might be sure in the momnet

so when to ever use enums?

you cant ever be 100% sure

[lost matrix]

When you know your set of values is final.
For example ordinal directions: North, East, South, West

[inner mulch]

okay, so settings for example should be java classes?

as there could be more settings in the future

[rough ibex]

Yes, as you're also storing state

[lost matrix]

I mean you could always add more values to your enum later on

[inner mulch]

i can but that would break the open closed principle

[lost matrix]

Well, sometimes you need to break those principles. You wont always be able to fully follow SOLID for every design decision.
But yeah, preferably you wouldnt want to edit them.

[quaint mantle]

I know how but kinda confused i think im brain farted.

How would i make a check to test if player rode a minecart in last 10 seconds

[rough ibex]

SOLID is like a guide to get you to a good design spot

[lost matrix]

Store a timestamp of the last usage mapped to a players UUID somewhere.
This way you can look up how far the last minecart usage lies in the past.

[quaint mantle]

Right thank u so much

Sorry. Stupid question. I feel dumb for asking

[rare rover]

what would be the best way to create boosters? I was thinking of adding the multiplier to the player's PersistentDataContainer

although feels like there's a better way

[lost matrix]

Thats what the discord is for

[rare rover]

also sorting the amount of time left when the player leaves ^

[lost matrix]

What exactly is a "booster" to you?

[rare rover]

just right-clicking an item which gives you x amount of multiplier for x amount of time

ik how to do all of that just i'm wondering the best way to store them

[quaint mantle]

What happens if your server crashes or restarts? What you going to do when players complain about lost boosters.

If its more than 20 mins for a booster id use mongo to store it

[flint coyote]

PersistentDataContainer values ain't lost over restarts

[rare rover]

mongo is mid

[quaint mantle]

Oh i thought it did

[rare rover]

sqlite ftw

that's metadata

[flint coyote]

That's why it's called "persistent" lol

[rare rover]

not persistentdata

[lost matrix]

During runtime you should use an actual instance mapped to a players UUID Map<UUID, BoostHolder>
Then on disconnect you can remove it from the map and store it in his PDC, in a file or a database. All of those are viable.
But i would not recommend constantly checking his PDC for values.

[rare rover]

👍

[quaint mantle]

Thank you for clarifying this

Not even joking, i was deadass confused ab PDC

[rare rover]

wait since we are on the PDC topic, i am accessing the PDC everytime the player breaks a block (i am making a prison server), which checks for all the enchants. Is there a better way then? Since you said its not recommended

[flint coyote]

Now you know. Whatever you store is never lost unless you specifically delete it

[rare rover]

on their pickaxe ^

could store in mem ig but thought that would've been a mid idea

[lost matrix]

Same pattern:
During runtime: Map<UUID, SomeStatisticTracker>
On session end: Store in PDC, file or DB

[rare rover]

oh so store the whole pickaxe data inside memory?

[twin venture]

help setup 1.20.4 into maven

[lost matrix]

ItemStacks are a different topic because their session is really hard to define.

[rare rover]

thought that would've been worse but ig that works

well i mean i just need certain values of the pickaxe therefore i can store inside a custom class

[lost matrix]

Ideally you would apply the same principle to ItemStacks.
Adding the data directly to the PDC this way is fine

[twin venture]

hi 7smile7 , do yk how i can fix my problem?

[rare rover]

okay so my current system is okay? It is running async since i'm running it on a duplexchannel so

i dont see why i would need to worry too much

[twin venture]

trying to build 1.20.4 into the maven , but with no avail

[quaint mantle]

If i store data in PDC, is it for all worlds? Like lets say I travel to the nether will i have to also save data for this world in my code?

[lost matrix]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/working-with-data.562421/

"The states of data"
and
"The scopes of data"

could be interesting for deciding where to place your data.

[rare rover]

👍 i will read that, tysm

[lost matrix]

If its the players PDC then yes. It is completely bound to the Player.
But there are other objects which hold PersistentDataContainers:

[lunar shuttle]

Is there a utility to get the cooked version of a food item?

[inner mulch]

When using classes extending from a superclass instead of enums, would i pass a new instance of the subclass or, would i just make the superclass and the subclass static like enums?

[ancient marsh]

Hello i have 2 Questions.

First of all i have the: PacketPlayOutExplosion Packet.

What is the code for this: ``((CraftPlayer) target).getHandle().c.a(new PacketPlayOutExplosion(Double.MAX_VALUE, Double.MAX_VALUE
, Double.MAX_VALUE, Double.MAX_VALUE, Collections.EMPTY_LIST, new Vec3D(Double.MAX_VALUE, Double.MAX_VALUE,
Double.MAX_VALUE,
Explosion.Effect.a,
ParticleParam.a, ????
ParticleParam.a, ???
SoundEffect.a(MinecraftKey.) ????

    )));``

the second:

In: PacketPlayOutScoreboardScore there will have the "NumberFormat"

[chrome beacon]

unmapped 💀

[ancient marsh]

NumberFormat ->package net.minecraft.network.chat.numbers;

[chrome beacon]

Do yourself a favor and use mojang mappings

[ancient marsh]

what you needed?

[chrome beacon]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[atomic niche]

I can't believe I am asking this, but does anyone remember how the hell to launch a server and pass a command to it from the same bash?

    java -args -jar whatever.jar --nogui
    [something] stop

I'm trying to make it so that a server completes startup and immediately stops.

[chrome beacon]

Try expect

Not sure if it works for Spigot 🤷‍♂️

[atomic niche]

Trying now! (sorry, I'm a inexperienced with bash)

Never used expect before, but this seems to be exactly what I need

[twin venture]

how i can make this lib :

used insted of this one?

[eternal night]

mvn install it

[twin venture]

i did , but it didn't update it

should i restart?

btw its not on github anymore :/ or any other website so i want to update it for my plugin usage until i make my own

[slender elbow]

let's go

[crimson scarab]

        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskAsynchronously(this, task -> {

            frames.forEach(frame -> {


                frame.getBlocks().forEach(block -> {

                    int x = block.getX();
                    int y = block.getY();

                    Location newLocation = location.clone().add(new Vector(x, y, 0));


                    Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(this, task2 -> {
                            newLocation.getBlock().setBlockData(block.getMaterial().createBlockData(), false);
                    });
                });



                Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Displaying Frame");
            });

how can i delay around after each frame

[spiral kindle]

I tried to setup NMS how it is described here: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-17-1-17-1.510208/#post-4184317
but I do not get the actual package to import despite maven running just fine.

[remote swallow]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[atomic niche]

This doesn't work...

    java -args -jar whatever.jar --nogui
    expect "[Server thread/INFO]: Done (*)! For help, type \"help\""
    send -- "stop"

But I'm guessing it's because I have no clue what I am doing?

[spiral kindle]

Can't you just make a script that's wait a bit and then sends it?

[spiral kindle]

Yea that's what I did but when I try to import it it isn't there.

[remote swallow]

did you run buildtools with --remapped for the version you want

[atomic niche]

that's the question though; how do you send it?
is it possible to java -args - jar whatever.jar --nogui <<< stop?

I guess tehre's only one way to find out.

[bleak eagle]

need some help with setting up a dev environment for craftbukkit
i've:

• forked the repository in stash
• cloned the fork
• ran buildtools in another directory
• applied patches from /buildtools/path/work/decompile-latest with shell script to the forked and cloned repo
• opened the cloned&forked&patched craftbukkit project pom.xml in idea
  at this point idea absolutely shits itself with several pom errors including, but not limited to
  Could not resolve dependencies for project org.bukkit:craftbukkit:jar:1.20.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT <-- like it's missing a respository definition in the pom?
  Cannot resolve symbol 'describe'
Cannot resolve symbol 'project.build.outputTimestamp'
Cannot resolve symbol 'shadeSourcesJar'
Plugin 'org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-checkstyle-plugin:3.3.0' not found
Dependency 'com.puppycrawl.tools:checkstyle:8.45.1' not found

[atomic niche]

(I could launch a screen and send it that way, but I'd prefer not to

[remote swallow]

try and reload maven

[bleak eagle]

already tried

it actually builds fine over maven>spigot>lifecycle>package if i open the cloned sources from the buildtools folder

[atomic niche]

got it

java -args - jar whatever.jar --nogui <<< stop is perfect

[spiral kindle]

Yea i did. Do I need to put it in a specific directory? I just have it in the Projekts root

[remote swallow]

it can be run anywhere as long as it runs sucessfully

what version do you want it for

[spiral kindle]

1.20.2

[remote swallow]

thats good, did you change the dependency in your pom and reload?

[bleak eagle]

but changes obviously get discarded every time i rerun buildtools and it's not referring to my forked repo, rather the main stash repo (maybe i have to set a different remote?)

[spiral kindle]

Yea i changed it all to 1.20.2 and then did maven clean and then maven install. It also generated the jar files that are reobfuscated etc. But I still can't import it.

[remote swallow]

what class do you want to import

[spiral kindle]

I tried to do just do net.Minecraft but what I need is tileentityhopper

[remote swallow]

thats a spigot mapping

the mojmap class is HopperBlockEntity

[spiral kindle]

...

[remote swallow]

compare them here https://mappings.cephx.dev/1.20.2/

[spiral kindle]

but even doing import net.Minecraft.*; it says Symbole not found

[remote swallow]

?paste your pom

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[spiral kindle]

https://paste.md-5.net/exepeqihin.xml

[remote swallow]

you have the wrong dependencies

you only need the following ```xml
<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot</artifactId>
<version>1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
<classifier>remapped-mojang</classifier> <!-- Important! -->
</dependency

you also dont have the special source plugin

?nms read this again

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[spiral kindle]

I posted the wrong one -_-

that was a diffrent plugin sorry

https://paste.md-5.net/uxuvifiyec.xml

[remote swallow]

remove the spigot api dependency

[spiral kindle]

still only get sugested md_5 when i do net.

[eternal night]

can you share the output of mvn dependency:tree

in a

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[brazen badge]

A thousand thanks! I did. Last thing, how do I record the world?

[spiral kindle]

https://paste.md-5.net/safelenipe.cs

[eternal night]

Welp, dependeny is there

have you tried to repair intellij ?

File > Repair IDE

[tender shard]

did you set your IDE to use java 17 or later?

in IJ File -> Project Structure

[spiral kindle]

It is java 17 and reparing didnt chang eanything

[tender shard]

what happens if you import some random NMS class and then compile anyway? e.g. import net.minecraft.core.BlockPos;

[spiral kindle]

oh wow it builds no problem.

so it is Intelj that has a problem

[tender shard]

have you already done File -> Invalidate Caches -> Invalidate and restart?

[spiral kindle]

didnt help either

oh wow it solved itself... I klicked on the error in IntelJ and klicked add maven dependency. and now it is there. No idea how that makes sense as the pom.xml didnt change but well.
Thank you very much for the help!

[bleak eagle]

bump

[river oracle]

ahhhh clasic IDEA things

does it compile?

[bleak eagle]

nope

maven itself errors out

[river oracle]

odd?

[bleak eagle]

the main error is cannot resolve the bukkit dep

the pom.xml is unmodified straight from the craftbukkit stash repo

[river oracle]

did you clone bukkit and install it?

[bleak eagle]

huhh?

[river oracle]

did you clone bukkit and install it using mvn install

[bleak eagle]

shouldn't it do that for me?

[river oracle]

no

[bleak eagle]

neat

where do i clone it

[river oracle]

the bukkit repo

[remote swallow]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse

or ur own fork

[bleak eagle]

no no i understand but where

in a separate folder or within the craftbukkit project

[river oracle]

separate folder

[remote swallow]

seperate folder

[young knoll]

Wait wait

[bleak eagle]

alright and then mvn install will set it up in my home ~ globally ?

[young knoll]

Do IntelliJ people need 2 windows to edit Bukkit and craftbukkit

[river oracle]

petition to make CraftBukkit a multi module project 😈

[river oracle]

yes

[young knoll]

Ha

[tender shard]

on windows, yes

[river oracle]

and on linux

[tender shard]

idk

on mac you can have more than one project in one window

[bleak eagle]

hmm okay that makes sense, i just thought the pom would do it magically for me

[river oracle]

tafuq hoq

[river oracle]

nope the pom generally goes fuck you do it yourself loser

[young knoll]

Meanwhile eclipse let’s me have them both in my workspace

[bleak eagle]

thanks for the help i ripped a bit of my hair out trying to solve this since cloning bukkit first isn't mentioned ANYWHERE in the dev guide

[young knoll]

I can even control click on Bukkit classes from cb to jump to them

[river oracle]

well usually BT should cover that, but for some reasons it seems it has not for you

[river oracle]

show me the bllack magic

cuz if you can do this on linux it'd open a whole new world to me

[bleak eagle]

oooh i might know why

i don't have maven installed at the system level

as in, the maven package from apt or whatever

[river oracle]

yeah that'll likely do it

[tender shard]

nah it's only on mac but it's also just a tabbed view

[river oracle]

wtf no love for any other system!

[bleak eagle]

why specifically mac

[tender shard]

idk

[river oracle]

probably a cash deal with Apple to keep all the important features on mac

[spiral kindle]

I want that too -_-

[bleak eagle]

oh, one more question, how do i edit wiki pages. i do not see any sort of edit/create page/whatever buttons

on spigotmc.org

[remote swallow]

@young knoll i make a janky version that works

[river oracle]

yeah but if you do it badly I hear you get destroyed by the wiki police

they usually come to your house with the swat team and take you to jail

[bleak eagle]

absolutely not there

[tender shard]

which page?

[bleak eagle]

any page

i tried at least 10 of them

i'm logged in obviously

[river oracle]

probably not enough posts lol

[tender shard]

which page exactly?

[young knoll]

Oh no

[bleak eagle]

eerrrm one sec

[river oracle]

my guess is it'd be a post requirement

not being met

[remote swallow]

it is

its either 5 or 10

[tender shard]

or he only tried locked articles lol

[bleak eagle]

nope yeah

i have 0 posts

[remote swallow]

wanna see the jank

[young knoll]

Maybe?

[remote swallow]

okay, if you are not coll1234567 do not open this you will want to jump onto the m6 infront of a semi, https://paste.md-5.net/inuhutiray.js

[bleak eagle]

alright, third question - buildtools gui, on linux. how?

[remote swallow]

run the latest jar

[bleak eagle]

nope

just runs as a cli app

[remote swallow]

@river oracle wake up

[bleak eagle]

it's not that i struggle with the command line, it would just be handy having a little thinger running on my taskbar i can use whenever i want to without moving my tired fingers too much

[eternal night]

iirc it has a special check for that

to not open the GUI

[bleak eagle]

i'll check the source

[tender shard]

GUI only opens if ran through double click

if you do „java -jar …“ it will not open the GUI

[hasty prawn]

i didnt even know it had a gui

[tender shard]

It was merged in january

[bleak eagle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/buildtools/commits/6bedac8a46f610bc5040958269f467374dc939cf#src%2Fmain%2Fjava%2Forg%2Fspigotmc%2Futils%2FUtils.java?t=93

[hasty prawn]

oh thats why

[bleak eagle]

totally tripping this off yeah

i can't run thru double click because it opens it as an archive

i can try and add an alternative

[tender shard]

Cant you create a shortcut to java -jar … that you can open with double click

[river oracle]

you don't unless you have a jar launcher

[bleak eagle]

yeah that's what i'm trying

[river oracle]

you'd need to manually make a .jar launcher .desktop file or just double click in the file explorer if your distro comes with one automatically