so the config path is correct
#help-development
remote swallow
print config.getValues
hazy parrot
Why not javafx 😭
charred blaze
print config.getValues
it prints null lol
remote swallow
the config isnt saved
charred blaze
the config isnt saved
to the disk or
remote swallow
on the server
charred blaze
why do i need to reopen the file
remote swallow
it should reload it
charred blaze
how will that help track the issue?
river oracle
Anyone have a clue of why Translateable components wouldn't be working with Menus???
val title = MenuBuilderImpl.title(type)
menu.title = title
Bukkit.getLogger().info(title.toString())
serverPlayer.sendSystemMessage(menu.title)
menu.checkReachable = false
entity.openInventory(menu.bukkitView)
return menu.bukkitView
when printed out to the player it provides the correct translations, but when opened its in english no matter the language
as you see the player inventory is in spanish, the title set on the server with the translatable component isn't, but its correctly printed out in chat and the console contents are as expected
must be a CB internal issue ig
figured it out, its how CraftBukkit opens inventories without considering translatable components
river oracle
Fix it
can't until components are merged
I mean I can fix it in my project
but spigot can't until components are merged
river oracle
Like merged into cb?
yes
river oracle
Cuz they are already in spigot
PRing this patch to spigot would just be like PRing it to spigot only to remove it :P
charred blaze
how will that help track the issue?
bruh i have no idea why arenas config isnt loaded
i load it in onenable
remote swallow
are you calling .set
mellow edge
how can I fix that when I call .dropItem the item won't go a little bit up and then go to a random direction but instead just drop it directly on the ground?
river oracle
how can I fix that when I call .dropItem the item won't go a little bit up and t...
there is a dropNaturally method
remote swallow
do you save
charred blaze
yea
if i reload config before getting location it works.
thats weird
fixed
found solution
charred blaze
how do i cancel runtasklater from other class?
wet breach
how do i cancel runtasklater from other class?
get the task id
wet breach
ideally since you plan on being able to cancel it
charred blaze
ok
wet breach
the alternative
echo basalt
BukkitRunnable?
wet breach
is to make the task have a condition it checks and from there it would dictate if the code runs in the task or not
charred blaze
how do i get the task id
echo basalt
Just overengineer your stuff
charred blaze
is to make the task have a condition it checks and from there it would dictate i...
yea i thought that
wet breach
how do i get the task id
when you create the task, you can get the id
charred blaze
but its pretty hard in my example
charred blaze
when you create the task, you can get the id
how
wet breach
put the task in a variable
charred blaze
aham
wet breach
handy illusion has stuff already made XD
even more so I don't have to type anything out now
charred blaze
scheduler.runTaskTimer(plugin, (bukkitTask -> {
taskId = bukkitTask.getTaskId();
task.accept(bukkitTask);
}), delay, period);
wait wouldnt taskid variable only change after tasktimer executes?
wet breach
anything that gets scheduled gets an ID
echo basalt
This method passes a Consumer<BukkitTask> to the scheduler
Which the scheduler accepts when it creates the task
although this keeps re-assigning the taskId field
Every time the task ticks
(which barely matters)
wet breach
overall however, it shows how to get the task id which is what you were wanting 😛
wet breach
you are making a minigame network?
quaint mantle
99% requests: bedwars
wet breach
interesting, I might be interested in joining it
echo basalt
Rn I'm still working on infrastructure while I can
charred blaze
i dont understand what to put in delay and period
wet breach
I could provide a dedicated server 🙂
echo basalt
at some point I'd love to have a server or two to test
charred blaze
my task's options?
echo basalt
my task's options?
One's how many ticks until the first iteration runs
The other is how many ticks between iterations
charred blaze
scheduler.runTaskTimer(plugin, (bukkitTask -> {
taskId = bukkitTask....
i dont think i understand purpose of this code
echo basalt
?scheduling
undone axleBOT
quaint mantle
Remember: Download sources
charred blaze
One's how many ticks until the first iteration runs
i mean do i need to put my task's delay and etc there?
echo basalt
Yeahj
charred blaze
oh i was confused because i was doing runtasklater actaully
echo basalt
Consumer
You can but you won't have context of the task id
Here's how I use mine
https://paste.md-5.net/inutelerin.java
https://paste.md-5.net/vugunuroja.java
charred blaze
wdym context
echo basalt
It will
charred blaze
ok so heres thing i was looking for
echo basalt
me when I get a real job
quaint mantle
Rust developers when they make algo 1ns faster
grim hound
how can I reference a specific line in a spigot link?
grim hound
so basically like github, where you get to specify the line
grim hound
The Stash? Forums?
resources
grim hound
Resources? You can. Though some browsers support text highlight linking
I'm asking how
grim hound
e.g. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/veinminer.12038/#:~:text=VeinMiner%20int...
you didn't references a specific line
worldly ingot
On Vivaldi at least I have a link in my context menu
Unsure where that would be on Chrome
grim hound
it doesn't
worldly ingot
Then you may not be on a browser that supports it
It's a Chromium feature so you need a Chromium based browser
dire saffron
Hi spigot people!
Im looking for a dev to show or code me a bungee plugin that changes /server (name) to open a custom menu (deluxe menus) instead
grim hound
It's a Chromium feature so you need a Chromium based browser
doesn't work for brave beta
worldly ingot
Might just not support it
quaint mantle
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/veinminer.12038/#:~:text=VeinMiner%20is%20spl...
Cloudflare 69 redirects:
grim hound
Might just not support it
doesn't work on chrome either
worldly ingot
e.g. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/veinminer.12038/#:~:text=VeinMiner%20int...
This one specifically probably didn't work because of Markdown formatting btw
grim hound
Sends me right to it and highlights it
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/alixsystem.109144/field?field=documentation then try here, the last paragraph
worldly ingot
grim hound
I'm trying to reference it with like a *
worldly ingot
That one works for me
worldly ingot
I promise!
worldly ingot
Or at least not those on a browser that doesn't support it 😛
That's kinda your only option though
rough ibex
#:~: wacky syntax
worldly ingot
Blame Google
slender elbow
worldly ingot
Like it just had a tummy ache
grim hound
I promise!
well then if you could just select this
since I don't have it automated
gonna tell other to scroll to it
heavy zephyr
On what website?
choco how did u learn the Bukkit aPi
buoyant viper
you dont, Bukkit learns you
heavy zephyr
huhuhuhuhuh
buoyant viper
your sleeping patterns, your habits, your daily routine
Bukkit is always watching
observing
learning
remote swallow
choco how did u learn the Bukkit aPi
im guessing by using it for 10 years
buoyant viper
that too
heavy zephyr
im guessing by using it for 10 years
reallY?!?!?! i asked HOW he learned it
not how long he used it for
remote swallow
he probably learned it by using it
bc i doubt docs were very good back in 2014 a year after release
remote swallow
same thing
eternal oxide
back then we learnt it by throwing code at an IDE and waited to see what worked.
young knoll
Wait you don’t do that anymore?
rough ibex
maven or gradle
heavy zephyr
maven or gradle
maven
rough ibex
did you add the vault dependency
heavy zephyr
ye
rough ibex
show pom
rough ibex
again, what of it...
remote swallow
yep thats normal
rough ibex
that's normal
remote swallow
you type it without seeing it
grim hound
doesn't accept any inputs
grim hound
NOR DOES HE ACCEPT THE HIDDEN INPUT
remote swallow
it accepts input you just dont see it
grim hound
HE DOESN'T
rough ibex
it does
rough ibex
i don't think su has a gender
grim hound
HE DOESNT'
grim hound
i don't think `su` has a gender
system
rough ibex
why are you using su anyway
grim hound
then are entering the wrong password
then wouldn't it tell me right away?
grim hound
why are you using su anyway
cuz again
if I try to login as root from the start
the server just refuses the connection and tells me to login as opc
rough ibex
root often is not able to be logged into
it has no password
you cannot su to it normally
as you are intended to use sudo -u
for other user
grim hound
as you are intended to use `sudo -u`
I would to that
rough ibex
or use sudo -i
rough ibex
what distro
grim hound
uh like 64
rough ibex
i'm sorry?
grim hound
how can I check this?
remote swallow
thats architecture
remote swallow
run cat /etc/os-release
grim hound
this it what the mc server says at start-up
remote swallow
run `cat /etc/os-release`
run this
grim hound
will do
rough ibex
this it what the mc server says at start-up
again that's not distro
grim hound
the server just needs to shutdown
rough ibex
thats java version and kernel
remote swallow
the server just needs to shutdown
do you not have screen or tmux
remote swallow
smh oracle linux
grim hound
can't do much about it now
rough ibex
ah fedora
grim hound
this is what happens when I try to login as root
the terminal just closes right after saying this
rough ibex
yep
drowsy helm
login as opc then
drowsy helm
is this a vps
rough ibex
yes because root you cannot login as normally
grim hound
is this a vps
probably
drowsy helm
unless it's a managed OS i don't see why oyu dont get root access
grim hound
unless it's a managed OS i don't see why oyu dont get root access
cuz it
remote swallow
try and connect as root
rough ibex
its normal for root to not be able to logged in as
remote swallow
root@ip
rough ibex
you can either
rough ibex
set root's password and allow login
rough ibex
or use sudo if you can get it
remote swallow
you should be using ssh or putty, change it from whatever to root
remote swallow
how do you connect to it
grim hound
how do you connect to it
putty
remote swallow
change the connection info then
grim hound
I input the private key, ip and configure the keepalives
remote swallow
hold on ill install putty
grim hound
do I use the server's private ip?
remote swallow
change it to root@publicip
remote swallow
replace it anyway
remote swallow
try opc then
grim hound
try opc then
so how do I get root?
remote swallow
opc should have the same access as root
remote swallow
iirc it does yeah
grim hound
then how do I install like screen and sudo on bash linux?
remote swallow
you should be able to access sudo from opc
grim hound
how did it just start working
I did not work a few days aback
the sudo
it just said "bash: sudo: command not found"
I did not install anything
remote swallow
to me that looks like whatever you tried to do with sudo failed
grim hound
it just typed "sudo"
grim hound
to me that looks like whatever you tried to do with sudo failed
I do also feel sometimes like that
cuz when it works for me I look at ppl who have problems with like like at idiots
until I try to help em, and boom, different situation, won't work
the hell
drowsy helm
proceed where
trail thunder
hello, im trying to build spigot from source but got
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project spigot: Could not resolve dependencies for project org.spigotmc:spigot:jar:1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT: The following artifacts could not be resolved: org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:jar:1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT (absent): Could not find artifact org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:jar:1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in minecraft-libraries (https://libraries.minecraft.net/) -> [Help 1]
just downloaded latest build tool and launched it in a new directory and clean maven cache with java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev 1.20.2
im fairly new to java, what can be the cause and where do i get this dependency? thanks!
river oracle
hello, im trying to build spigot from source but got
```
[ERROR] Failed to execu...
Is that the full error?
lost matrix
hello, im trying to build spigot from source but got
```
[ERROR] Failed to execu...
This should be resolved by running BuildTools, as it installs the server jar in your local maven repo.
Did you make sure to install maven on your machine and add it to your PATH
river oracle
This should be resolved by running BuildTools, as it installs the server jar in ...
You don't have to
BuildTools downloads maven and uses that
Likewise with git
lost matrix
Hm, i mean IJ comes bundled with a maven environment. So opening and compiling there should work.
Im jsut worried that maven doesnt find its local .m2 folder.
ivory sleet
Smile how much for a code review?
surreal hornet
( i know its more of a java question than a spigot question but ..) what tool is usually used for monitoring plugin to prevent from things like memory leaks ?
for example how can i check how many instance of a sorten object exist on memory ? so i can make sure there is no reference to that object so it will be collected by gc
sullen marlin
a memory profiler like VisualVM, Eclipse MAT, etc
ivory sleet
^
and regarding the references, there are techniques to ensure no references to a given object, however before u resort to those, its usually vice to revise ur design rather
sullen marlin
as long as you dont leave things in a map list or array you don't need anymore, it's pretty hard to leak with a plugin
surreal hornet
I have an obsession with performance and memory leak prevention, and I want to take extra care as my plugin grows. I've checked my code design multiple times, but I'd like to confirm that there are no references to my objects on Lambda expressions or Bukkit Runnables.
thank you for advice
torn shuttle
as long as you dont leave things in a map list or array you don't need anymore, ...
challenge accepted
young knoll
Well you could just hold a hard world reference in your main class then unload the world
Pretty sure that’ll do it
surreal hornet
https://bukkit.org/threads/wip-analysis-of-your-server-jvm-using-visualvm.66536/
is this guide still work ?
ivory sleet
I have an obsession with performance and memory leak prevention, and I want to t...
I’m gonna say this, and emphasize on this, but the jvm and gc is ridiculously good at figuring out circular references, non reachable hard references and phantom ones, so in general you need not to worry
surreal hornet
https://bukkit.org/threads/wip-analysis-of-your-server-jvm-using-visualvm.66536/...
(im asking this here bc md_5 is the author of this post)
ivory sleet
Yes
Pretty sure it works
It can also sometimes be harmful to eagerly clean references up in terms of optimizations
trail thunder
This should be resolved by running BuildTools, as it installs the server jar in ...
xd thx this resolved the issue… i'm used to building stuff in containers and didn't realize i don't even have maven installed on host machine
lost matrix
Smile how much for a code review?
lol
surreal hornet
I have created an object that includes an armor stand as one of its properties. I have also implemented a feature that removes every reference to the object when the armor stand dies, and this functionality is working as intended. However, I have noticed that for example if I have 20 instances of that object in memory and then reload the server, those 20 instances remain stuck in memory , even though there are no references to them. Is this behavior normal?
is this why so many people hate /reload ?
lost matrix
I have created an object that includes an armor stand as one of its properties. ...
- You shouldnt hold hard references to live objects like Entities, Chunks, Worlds etc. They always have an indirect reference.
- Reloading is not supported by spigot and you should not put time into making your plugin compatible with a reload.
lost matrix
I have created an object that includes an armor stand as one of its properties. ...
Also what do you mean by "stuck in memory" did you wait long enough for the GC to clean them up? This can take a while depending on your jvm arguments and how much memory you have allocated
surreal hornet
yeh yeh thats fine, i dont wanna make my plugin compatible with reload i just wanted to know if this behavior is normal or not
surreal hornet
Also what do you mean by "stuck in memory" did you wait long enough for the GC t...
i waited like 15 minute
lost matrix
I feel like those instances should be gone if you kept them in a Map<K, V> as values, and the keys being the ArmorStands.
But depending on your design, tracing the reference can be tricky.
surreal hornet
i dont save those instances on any persistent container
they are all on memory
anyway
thank you
quaint mantle
do you guys think this is useless
lost matrix
do you guys think this is useless
Yes. You should create a bunch of classes instead of throwing your values raw into a map.
Also: What is all this primitive stuff?
PrimitiveNumber.ofDouble(double) looks reduntant to me as double is already primitive
quaint mantle
i needed to make a wrapper cause every element can have their own metadata
lost matrix
For example?
quaint mantle
the only reason i did that is cause a lot of serialized forms are essentially key value pairs
public interface PrimitiveElement {
<T> Optional<T> getMetadata(Class<T> var1);
void setMetadata(Class<?> var1, Object var2);
//...
How is this metadata used? Is it serialized as well?
quaint mantle
it depends on the serializer
like i could add a Comment metadata
yaml would serialize that
but something like json wouldnt
lost matrix
Hmm
quaint mantle
ima rename the yamlconfigservice to yamlserializer
but the plan was something similar to like
bukkit's config sys
for my other non mc plugins
bros writting an essay
lost matrix
I really dont like having maps as configuration structures. I would prefer the config being (de)serialized to instances reflectively.
For example
public static class MessageConfiguration {
@ConfigName("Plugin Prefix")
@Comment({"Some mult line", "comment"})
private String pluginPrefix = "AM";
}
This way i have actual type safety for my configuration, and im not prone to errors which oftern occur when using String keys to retrieve config values.
quaint mantle
i made smthing similar to that
river oracle
I do something similar but I use something more like below
DataField<String> pluginPrefix = new DataField<>("plugin-prefix", "AM");
than cache the method handle :P
prob don't need to cache it tho tbh
young knoll
Yeah mine looks almost identical to smiles
river oracle
Yeah mine looks almost identical to smiles
the one in pineapple does too cuz someone did a little stealing 
epiccccc
lost matrix
*I dont have that. Just made it up. My approach is to throw everything into Gson because im lazy.
worldly ingot
pft. annotations
river oracle
I dislike annotations :P
remote swallow
the one in pineapple does too cuz someone did a little stealing <:eyes_sus:60656...
IM WORKING ON IT 
worldly ingot
I basically opted for a wrapper, and I like it :D https://github.com/2008Choco/VeinMiner/blob/master/veinminer-bukkit/src/main/java/wtf/choco/veinminer/config/impl/StandardVeinMinerConfiguration.java
interfaced and all that fun stuff. I likey
young knoll
Gson works but it isn’t yml
remote swallow
Choco sus
worldly ingot
Gson works but it isn’t yml
If you squint
remote swallow
Lets use .properties for configs
young knoll
Yeah just idk
remote swallow
You would use xml if you could
river oracle
You would use xml if you could
no I wouldn't use XML for configs I would use XML for something like a command API or inventory API thouhg
I would also consider Lua for that though
river oracle
Lua is great as its easy to embed so you can really get some sweet ass stuff with it
young knoll
Not fast enough!
worldly ingot
Lua would actually be super sick for an inventory framework
river oracle
see choco gets me
iirc some Hypixel Skyblock (players) nerds made some Lua Inventory Framework type shit
remote swallow
Yeah well you two are weird
young knoll
I should make a scripting system for my plugins at some point
worldly ingot
I don't have access to the SkyBlock team stuff, so 👀 I wouldn't know
young knoll
I can think of many uses for that
remote swallow
Josh while ur here i have questions for you
quaint mantle
choco how does your plugin handle config updates
worldly ingot
Nothing is held in memory. It just pulls from Plugin#getConfig()
quaint mantle
Like let's say you completely remodel the config
what happens to all the old values
worldly ingot
oic, not local updates, just over time feature updates
quaint mantle
What's oic
worldly ingot
I announce them in the update notes and if they don't wanna use them, it'll fall back to defaults
I don't add them
remote swallow
Josh while ur here i have questions for you
Does ur config thing work like this
Find @ConfigEntry annotations
check if config exists if yes add missing defaults if no skip
Get Type
check if adapter exists
if yes run it if no try and cast to string
use result to call YamlConfig#set
save
load all from config
river oracle
What's oic
oh I see
worldly ingot
oic = oh i see
echo basalt
I really dont like having maps as configuration structures. I would prefer the c...
ew
worldly ingot
Yeah, not really understood the obsession with constantly putting in config values that don't really need to be there tbh
I keep my default config on the description page
If they need them, they can find them 😄
young knoll
Does ur config thing work like this
Find @ConfigEntry annotations
check if con...
saveDefaults just calls save with replace false
river oracle
@quaint mantle if you find yourself remodeling a config you are going need to hand map all the values if you change your config a shit ton multiple times you need to rethink your plugin designing the goal is to not change things plan ahead
remote swallow
saveDefaults just calls save with replace false
I mean in general
Bcim making me own
quaint mantle
<@456226577798135808> if you find yourself remodeling a config you are going nee...
I'm saying if that happens
Wait @worldly ingot how many hypixel devs are there
remote swallow
Like tree fiddy
quaint mantle
is it true they got a special team just for fixing bugs
river oracle
it shouldn't and if it does you are going to have to either A. Don't do anything and require players to update or B. manually map all the old to new values
young knoll
I mean in general
I guess?
worldly ingot
I mean I could be wrong
young knoll
If it doesn’t find an adapter it just yells at you
remote swallow
Oh
echo basalt
Like
quaint mantle
Wait so
remote swallow
Maybe ill add basic serialization
river oracle
I'm saying if that happens
for example this entire config is made without a transafer API or anything if I update I update https://paste.md-5.net/emopoyujej.json
quaint mantle
choco is minikloon a Sr dev what role is he actually
worldly ingot
I can go count if you want 😅
echo basalt
there's cerus, you, paul, minikloon, plancke, mgrf, relenter, inventive, connor
uh
I'm starting to forget names
remote swallow
Simon
echo basalt
simon is not a dev
river oracle
Y2K_ is a hypixel dev
remote swallow
Uhhhhh
quaint mantle
Max
worldly ingot
22 developers, so yeah, I was a bit off lol
echo basalt
fun
remote swallow
Theres probably a steve on there
quaint mantle
is minikloon the superviser
echo basalt
every time I see choco talking around I get inspired to apply for like the 19th time
river oracle
is minikloon the superviser
nah I am
echo basalt
but then I remember I'm just gonna get rejected the moment they look at my name on my CV
remote swallow
Inventive is prob supervisor
echo basalt
nah
remote swallow
Its choco isnt it
echo basalt
minikloon is a goated dev but I don't think he's doing management
he has the passion for development
Like there are 2 paths you can take as an elite dev
quaint mantle
y2k is not and I repeat is not the supervisor
remote swallow
Yes he is
echo basalt
you either become a code wizard or you give up development for a more management position
kloon is a code wizard
river oracle
y2k is not and I repeat is not the supervisor
do you have any proof?
river oracle
you either become a code wizard or you give up development for a more management...
one of my friends is just a code wizzard I don't get that guy he spends way to much time coding lol
young knoll
What constitutes a wizard
remote swallow
Y2k is one of hypixels elite employees
echo basalt
dude's just years ahead
river oracle
What constitutes a wizard
magic
young knoll
Listen here you little shit
quaint mantle
Woah woah
river oracle
Listen here you little shit
I know a couple people who are a few years behind
for example @young knoll
quaint mantle
who's above minikloon other than simon
echo basalt
simon and kloon are friends irl
quaint mantle
if I ever get management on hypixel it's actually over for the server
echo basalt
yeah
river oracle
Who is this guy 💀
most revolutionary dev of the 21st century
author of Inventory PR
quaint mantle
most revolutionary dev of the 21st century
Nah I'm saying like
What I'm about to do to the players
all the opps are gonna vanish
river oracle
do you even know who you are talking to?
I am the greatest developer ever to spawn on planet erath
young knoll
Imagine hypixel using /op
quaint mantle
Skript
river oracle
we use luckperms guys
young knoll
I love /sethome in bedwars!
quaint mantle
they don't use Java they use Skript
echo basalt
half their shit is made with command blocks
river oracle
they don't use Java they use Skript
we actually script with Lua
river oracle
me and the hypixel team
echo basalt
y2k and his other brain cell
remote swallow
Hypickle
river oracle
y2k and his other brain cell
bold of you to assume I have another braincell
echo basalt
I'm still planning my minigame network >:)
worldly ingot
Can confirm, CMI is installed on the Hypixel network globally
(for legal reasons, this is a joke)
remote swallow
bold of you to assume I have another braincell
Ill stand in for a tenth of it
lost matrix
I'm still planning my minigame network >:)
Lets write one together. Bc there arent enough of those out there. 
quaint mantle
Do you guys think an industry dev would be a good minecraft dev
echo basalt
Lets write one together. Bc there arent enough of those out there. <:smileybolb:...
I can't tell if you're being serious or not
young knoll
Can confirm, CMI is installed on the Hypixel network globally
_(for legal reason...
Can you also confirm the skript usage?
echo basalt
I was talking to frostalf ab it and he offered a dedi
river oracle
Do you guys think an industry dev would be a good minecraft dev
depends what industry
young knoll
Blizzard employee
echo basalt
janitor 
lost matrix
Do you guys think an industry dev would be a good minecraft dev
Depends on the industry. But any software developer who had experience with object oriented languages will probably quickly get quite good in it.
quaint mantle
depends what industry
Noonie industry
rough ibex
holy shit I love using JSON5 as my config
echo basalt
ew json
river oracle
holy shit I love using JSON5 as my config
yes
quaint mantle
u a little late
river oracle
@rough ibex we must be related
lost matrix
I mean. Json isnt a configuration format really.
quaint mantle
oh have you guys seen apple's config?
echo basalt
I remember joking ab flying developers out to break each other's kneecaps in case of nda breach at hypixel
rough ibex
Why not?
young knoll
It doesn’t even support comments
lost matrix
Its convenient but probably not a good choice
young knoll
Well technically
rough ibex
I should amend
quaint mantle
they made a config system where you can code with it
lost matrix
Why not?
Bc its used for mainly persisting data. Yml is for example better suited. One reason are comments.
echo basalt
toml
rough ibex
val thing = config["object"] as? JsonObject ?: throw AssertionError("Item \"object\" must be an object.")
I have seen the light
young knoll
Throw oom
quaint mantle
Idk I've never really thrown an AssertionError before
rough ibex
I just like to be consistent and throw 1 exc type if I can
Considering they convey the same message.
rough ibex
Aren't Error and Exception not the same
quaint mantle
yeah they arent
rough ibex
haha
quaint mantle
But I make sure my plugin stands out
river oracle
I throw an Error
never throw an error 💀 especially froma plugin
lost matrix
```kotlin
val thing = config["object"] as? JsonObject ?: throw AssertionError("I...
If you are using Gson properly, then you should never see JsonObject, JsonElement, JsonArray etc.
Your workflow should be more like:
Gson gson = ...;
String json = ...;
SomeObj = gson.fromJson(json, SomeObj.class);
Just brick the server
rough ibex
Well, I'm not using GSON
echo basalt
Thread.currentThread().join() to prevent further contamination
lost matrix
Where is "JsonObject" from then?
quaint mantle
never throw an error 💀 especially froma plugin
How else am I gonna stand out
young knoll
Something goes wrong? Unsafe#putInt(0, 0)
river oracle
Where is "JsonObject" from then?
probably some Json5 library since Json5 supports comments
quaint mantle
pretend ur a clueless server owner
rough ibex
I use Jankson but the pattern can be adapted to any JSON lib I suppose.
echo basalt
Something goes wrong? Unsafe#putInt(0, 0)
https://paste.md-5.net/oxupilaxuh.cs I use this in production 
young knoll
Jankson
rough ibex
plus,
Jankson is, for the most part, a drop-in replacement for Gson or Hjson, but can also be used as a preprocessor to fix quirks and strip comments, re-baking it into standard JSON syntax for another parser to consume.
young knoll
I love the name
rough ibex
It's nice.
quaint mantle
"IllegalArgumentException" tf is that prob nothing important
"Error" ima start investigating
rough ibex
class No(message: String) : Exception(message)
now we're cooking
echo basalt
Funny that the only use case scenario I have for it is preventing obscure memory leaks
young knoll
How long until java blocks us reflecting unsafe
quaint mantle
wdym
river oracle
How long until java blocks us reflecting unsafe
probably not until they replace it lol
I forget when they plan to do that by
echo basalt
you're telling me that I actually have to fork and fix code
hell naw
just unsafe inject a bunch of proxied classes n fix shit
quaint mantle
I could've sworn Records were supposed to be like really safe
echo basalt
most useless change
quaint mantle
Like anti reflection safe
river oracle
I could've sworn Records were supposed to be like really safe
nothing is safe from Unsafe
also I doubt Records are anti-reflection
rough ibex
*theUnsafe
quaint mantle
They arent
young knoll
They are already on their way to blocking runtime attaching instrumentation
echo basalt
They are already on their way to blocking runtime attaching instrumentation
watch some mf make an API that replaces those calls with classloading a custom .jar built in real time
quaint mantle
and they will now recursively serialize nested objects
river oracle
I mean records are just a fancy class
quaint mantle
Wtf is happening with my keyboard
lost matrix
plus,
> Jankson is, for the most part, a drop-in replacement for Gson or Hjson, ...
Ok this library looks janky af. Registering an external (de)serializer for something like ItemStack, Location, etc will be horrible.
quaint mantle
json5 looks stupid
river oracle
Ok this library looks janky af. Registering an external (de)serializer for somet...
I mean it is called Jank-son 
lost matrix
You will also get some nice surprises...
river oracle
guys we can finally stop arguing about which config is best apple released pickl the arguments are over
quaint mantle
You will also get some nice surprises...
What does gson do when faced with an interface
rough ibex
Ok this library looks janky af. Registering an external (de)serializer for somet...
Well, I'm not working/planning on serializing
river oracle
unless their is a type adapter ya
quaint mantle
I found it interesting how they have a type adapter for uuid built in
wasted my time making one
lost matrix
What does gson do when faced with an interface
Depends on your deserialization strategy. My implementation stores the runtime class together with the object data and deserializes it later on.
lost matrix
You cant really deserialize an interface or an abstract class without storing its runtime implementation.
So it will throw an exception.
torn shuttle
hey in ClientboundSetEquipmentPacket for the id of the entity what id is expected there? It feels like it's the ordered list of entities that the player knows about or something because it's not uuid
lost matrix
Isnt it just the int id? The client usually has no idea about the UUID
torn shuttle
there's an int id?
worldly ingot
Entity#getEntityId() iirc
torn shuttle
uh the problem is my entity is purely packets-based
worldly ingot
Oh, so you should have an entity id then because you need it to spawn one
quaint mantle
Kinda an odd question but what should I do if I face an exception but I also fail to notify the user of the exception (like an exception while alerting an exception)
torn shuttle
ClientboundAddEntityPacket clientboundAddEntityPacket = new ClientboundAddEntityPacket(
entityType.getTypeId(),
UUID.randomUUID(),
spawnLocation.getX(),
spawnLocation.getY(),
spawnLocation.getZ(),
spawnLocation.getPitch(),
spawnLocation.getYaw(),
net.minecraft.world.entity.EntityType.ARMOR_STAND,
0,
new Vec3(0,0,0),
0);
hmm is it the first one
there's a few "mystery ints" for me here
worldly ingot
No that's its type
torn shuttle
that was more of a guess on my end tbh
worldly ingot
Oh, my mistake, yeah, it is the id :p
torn shuttle
right
worldly ingot
You just happen to be giving it the entity type's id as its id
torn shuttle
so I should randomize it?
worldly ingot
Which uh... shocked it hasn't broken yet
torn shuttle
didn't have much time to break considering I barely got it to compile once thus far
worldly ingot
I mean you're already directly invoking NMS so you could use the int field in the Entity class
young knoll
Although iirc it’s protected
torn shuttle
There’s an atomic int in Entity that you should use
how do I do that?
torn shuttle
Although iirc it’s protected
this?
worldly ingot
Oh there isn't. That's sad
Yeah that's the one
You'll have to get it reflectively
torn shuttle
fantastic, my favorite
young knoll
Convince choco to PR a visibility change :p
worldly ingot
Nah
torn shuttle
I don't quite thing the dumb shit I'm doing right now will get thrown into the api but I could be wrong
young knoll
I think downstream does expose a method to get the next Id
torn shuttle
people keep complaining that my models aren't 100% async so I'm just making them entirely artificial so I can send packets in async
worldly ingot
There should be a class in Apache Commons to do things more easily. I think it's FieldUtils#getDeclaredField() or something
torn shuttle
There should be a class in Apache Commons to do things more easily. I think it's...
yeah I've been using this one
worldly ingot
Yeah that works fine too
young knoll
Oof obfuscated names
worldly ingot
Don't know what it obfuscates to tbh
young knoll
That’s why I switched to getting fields by type and index
worldly ingot
I mean, I don't actually know if it'll break if you provide some absurdly high number, it's just not technically guaranteed to be unique
torn shuttle
what was that really handy place for checking obsfuscated garbage
young knoll
Technically it’s not unique anyway
worldly ingot
d in 1.20.4
torn shuttle
I want the d
young knoll
It will eventually wrap around
worldly ingot
Hell yeah you do
young knoll
private static final Field ATTRIBUTE_FIELD = ReflectionUtils.getField(LivingEntity.class, AttributeMap.class, 0);
private static final Field CRAFT_ATTRIBUTE_FIELD = ReflectionUtils.getField(LivingEntity.class, CraftAttributeMap.class, 0);
No names required :p
torn shuttle
fun I have to do this from 1.17 thru to 1.20.4 and it probably won't cover all of them
worldly ingot
It will *eventually* wrap around
I mean if you can spawn 4 some-odd billion entities in a single server instance, then I applaud you
That # resets on server restarts lol
worldly ingot
I'll give you an atomic long >:(
young knoll
Oh boy
young knoll
Nice
torn shuttle
also hoping to find a packet that has next to no latency because that is my greatest problem right now
mc keeps interpolating api teleports and it's super slow
young knoll
Make sure to set the display entities teleport duration
torn shuttle
Make sure to set the display entities teleport duration
hm does that actually change anything because the problem isn't exactly that they aren't teleporting, it's that they are interpolating too slowly client-side
young knoll
No idea
Mine were all choppy until I set it to match how often they got teleported
Granted I believe mine only move every 3 ticks
torn shuttle
Make sure to set the display entities teleport duration
what field is this?
torn shuttle
Idk I set it through the api
I can test that too, which method?
torn shuttle
pretty sure those don't exist under entity
or livingentity
are you thinking about portalcooldown or something?
young knoll
It’s on Display
torn shuttle
wait what
young knoll
We talking about display entities aren’t we
torn shuttle
oooooooooh
ok I got you, I haven't actually started using those yet
I was doing pure packet entities first and then moving to display entities
young knoll
Ah
torn shuttle
actually now you have me wondering if the tighter teleport bounds are a display entity property
and unrelated to packets
do they actually visually teleport faster?
young knoll
Don’t think so
They just don’t interpolate teleporting by default, while all other entities do afaik
torn shuttle
also in reflections I only need to expose a static field once right, no reason to keep doing it every time I access it?
young knoll
Correct
Same with non static
The results of display entity based models
#verified message
torn shuttle
They just don’t interpolate teleporting by default, while all other entities do ...
oh that's some bs then
damn
I could've kinda skipped what I'm doing
well too late
I thought I could do some packet trickery to skip the interpolation
torn shuttle
big pog moment
quaint mantle
Help with figuring out a nice elo equation
int maxEloToGain = 23;
int eloBounce = (int) Math.round(Math.random() * maxEloToGain));
This is what i have so far, it works nicely but I don't know if i can balance it more
torn shuttle
tf
ClientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket clientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket = new ClientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket(id, new MobEffectInstance(MobEffects.INVISIBILITY, Integer.MAX_VALUE, 0));
((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().connection.send(clientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket);
[05:51:07 WARN]: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'void net.minecraft.world.effect.MobEffectList.<init>(net.minecraft.world.effect.MobEffectList, int, int)'
How did that even happen
am I doing something dumb here because the method does exist and it is public
am I tripping?
quaint mantle
am I tripping?
thats not a method
torn shuttle
did you see the screenshot that shows the method?
quaint mantle
did you see the screenshot that shows the method?
Yes. That's a constructor not a method
Big difference
torn shuttle
...which is how I'm using it?
which part of this isn't a method
that I am doing incorrectly
quaint mantle
I mean i've reviewed your code
I dont know.
It looks like when you pass in MobEffects.INVISIBILITY that could be your issue
Your calling a different constructor then the one in image
torn shuttle
it isn't, I tried that as a standalone and it works
it ceases to work the moment I try one of the initializers that takes more than one argument
doesn't work
works
quaint mantle
Im not familiar with API you are using, I think its Forge?
torn shuttle
this one specifically happens to be 1.19.4 but I'm supporting 1.18-1.20
quaint mantle
Idk if MobEffect is a class
torn shuttle
but MobEffects.INVISIBILITY works
quaint mantle
Oh that returns a MobEffect?
torn shuttle
and it's the same requirement on every initializer
yeah
like I said the first one works but none of the other ones do
quaint mantle
like I said the first one works but none of the other ones do
Hmm, do you know what those parameters are even for?
Like what do the two ints mean
quaint mantle
Hmm..
What doesnt work?
torn shuttle
it throws the error I posted
quaint mantle
it throws the error I posted
Ahh right.
torn shuttle
which doesn't make sense
it's like I'm not looking at the right api but I know I am
quaint mantle
which doesn't make sense
I agree lol
torn shuttle
I mean I don't think I'm tripping, even the mappings website sees these
quaint mantle
it's like I'm not looking at the right api but I know I am
ClientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket(id, new MobEffect(new MobEffectInstance(MobEffects.INVISIBILITY, Integer.MAX_VALUE, 0)));
Try that
From what im reading that would work
torn shuttle
that is exactly what I was testing
quaint mantle
Try and see, should be good now
torn shuttle
now?
compared to the 20 times I already did it?
actually no I take that back because you use mobeffect which is not even a class
quaint mantle
compared to the 20 times I already did it?
Sometimes the best things take over 100+ tries before you get it the way you want, then you realize you can do it better on the 101st try
quaint mantle
actually no I take that back because you use mobeffect which is not even a class
MobEffect is not a class?
Oh i asked you that before you didnt say anything, my bad
quaint mantle
I mean I don't think I'm tripping, even the mappings website sees these
So what class is this mappings reading from?
Where are all of those constructors
torn shuttle
rather mobeffect is not instantiable
quaint mantle
Lol okay
Its not your code bro
Its definitely your server
U need to use same version in your project as you do on your server.
Thats why you get NoSuchMethod error
The version of Spigot on your server does not contain this method
I have a feeling this is the issue, because I had same problem the other day when I was working with NBT stuff
Instead it was NoClassDefFoundError
quaint mantle
rather mobeffect is not instantiable
I hope i could help, please feel free to bumbard me i wanna help you solve this
torn shuttle
so it's definitely not the server software, I just tested on paper and spigot
but there is something really weird I just noticed, MobEffects is decompiling for 19_R3 which is correct but when I try to decompile a MobEffect from that page it decompiles a 18_R1 class, how is that even possible
has anyone ever seen something like this happen?
although when I just do invisibility it works so that shouldn't be the issue
what the hell is up with this
sullen marlin
You don't need nms for this
torn shuttle
unfortunately the entity only exists in packets so it can be fully async
so unless there's some api feature I am unaware of I do need to figure out how to apply this potion effect the hard way
it's for freeminecraftmodels so that the custom model overlay can be run in async, people keep requesting that feature pretty much every day
any hints?
this one also doesn't work
sullen marlin
Idk about packet entity
torn shuttle
the general idea is just that an entity can't be async but theoretically you can kinda abstract it away from the game and just send packets
uh... it started working?
proud badge
Which one is fired on InventoryClickEvent?
torn shuttle
kinda, not really but I think that's because i'm doing it on the same tick
proud badge
Since theres no blocks or airs in here
torn shuttle
this is kinda weird, I got it to at least run correctly but the effect is not working
((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().connection.send(clientboundContainerSetContentPacket);
Bukkit.getScheduler().scheduleSyncDelayedTask(NMSManager.pluginProvider, () -> {
ClientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket clientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket = new ClientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket(
id, new MobEffectInstance(MobEffects.INVISIBILITY, Integer.MAX_VALUE, 1));
Bukkit.getLogger().info("it should be invisible 3");
((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().connection.send(clientboundUpdateMobEffectPacket);
}, 60);
it runs but it doesn't modify anything, ideas?
fossil axle
Hello, I’m working on a plugin for which I need to get the best type of tool for one specific block. How do I do this? Without checking for all blocks and their tools manually.
lost matrix
Hello, I’m working on a plugin for which I need to get the best type of tool for...
So you are trying to get the effectiveness of an ItemStack for a specific Block Material, right?
Including enchantments etc
Ill just assume thats what you want.
Paper has a ItemStack#getDestroySpeed(BlockState) method.
For Spigot you need NMS because it is currently not exposed in the API.
quaint mantle
how would i get the JumpVelocityMultiplier of a block
lost matrix
how would i get the JumpVelocityMultiplier of a block
Could you give an example?
quaint mantle
well, when you jump on a honey block you jump low, but when you jump on stone you jump normally
lost matrix
What prevents you from checking if a player jumped from a honey block then?
quaint mantle
there are more blocks like that probably but honey block is first i think of
and just in case minecraft adds any other blcoks like that
dreamy plank
My friend's message looks like this; (muted playername): hi how can I fix this?
devout pivot
I dont know anything about plugin development. theres a plugin i want to use but it isnt up to date. the last version it was updated to was 1.19 and I want to know how much do I have to learn to update that plugin on my own
rough drift
?services maybe?
undone axleBOT
If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/
kind hatch
I dont know anything about plugin development. theres a plugin i want to use but...
What plugin? 🤔
devout pivot
anti farm
drowsy helm
My friend's message looks like this; (muted playername): hi how can I fix this?
Elaborate please
Does his name show up as muted playername
dreamy plank
Yeah and in grey instead of the prefix I want
drowsy helm
Itll be another plugin doing that
dreamy plank
But he can see my message how I want it
drowsy helm
Youll have to go through all of them ans figure out which one
dreamy plank
Even if I don't have OP
drowsy helm
Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a plugin
Youll just have to figure out what is doing it and disable it
dreamy plank
Okay
fossil axle
So you are trying to get the effectiveness of an ItemStack for a specific Block ...
I want to know what the best kind of tool is, but I guess I could check it using this method.
drowsy helm
Pretty sure threre was a magic numbers utility for it right?
lost matrix
I want to know what the best kind of tool is, but I guess I could check it using...
Well there is no other way than evaluating the break speed for each ItemStack ^^
fossil axle
Ok
dreamy plank
Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a plugin
it can't be something from his side? Because someone else joined and didn't have that
drowsy helm
it can't be something from his side? Because someone else joined and didn't have...
Could possibly be a modded client thing.
torn shuttle
oh I think the effect might actually have been working but this is not how it's supposed to function
fossil axle
Ill just assume thats what you want.
Paper has a ``ItemStack#getDestroySpeed(Blo...
I can't use it and I use paper.
lost matrix
I can't use it and I use paper.
What version?
fossil axle
I honestly don't even know where I see which version I use, other than when creating the plugin
lost matrix
In your pom.xml usually (When using maven)
fossil axle
<groupId>io.papermc.paper</groupId>
<artifactId>paper-api</artifactId>
<version>1.20.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
You mean this?
chrome beacon
Yeah
fossil axle
I don't know what I did earlier but now it works perfectly. Thanks for the help
lost matrix
I don't know what I did earlier but now it works perfectly. Thanks for the help
Nothing, i just looked at the wrong ItemStack. The nms ItemStack has the destroy speed exposed. No idea why the api layer has this method on Block.
torn shuttle
uh oh how does entitydataaccessor even work
mighty gazelle
repositories {
mavenCentral()
maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/")
}
dependencies {
compileOnly("io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
annotationProcessor("io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
compileOnly("org.bukkit:bukkit:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
annotationProcessor("org.bukkit:bukkit:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
}
java {
toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(17))
}
Why it doesn't work?
The Error:
Execution failed for task ':compileJava'.
Could not resolve all files for configuration ':compileClasspath'.
Could not find io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.
Searched in the following locations:
- https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
- https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.pom
- https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
- https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.pom
- https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
- https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/io/papermc/paper/paper-api/1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.pom
Required by:
project :
Possible solution:
- Declare repository providing the artifact, see the documentation at https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/declaring_repositories.html
lost matrix
This has been answered already
lost matrix
- You are using the wrong repository
- Neither bukkit nor paper are applicable as annotation processors
- Importing bukkit together with paper is rather useless
mighty gazelle
So?
repositories {
mavenCentral()
maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots")
maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/")
}
dependencies {
testImplementation(platform("org.junit:junit-bom:5.9.1"))
testImplementation("org.junit.jupiter:junit-jupiter")
compileOnly("net.luckperms:api:5.3")
annotationProcessor("net.luckperms:api:5.3")
compileOnly("io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
}
java {
toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(17))
}
lost matrix
Nope. You are still using the spigot repository but importing paper.
Also luckperms is not an annotationProcessor
mighty gazelle
What is annotationProcessor("") ?
lost matrix
Its used by your IDE to preprocess compile annotations before compiling.
You should not worry about that.
compileOnly is all you should need for the beginning.
mighty gazelle
Okay
torn shuttle
where should I check for data related to datawatchers?
oh I think I was looking for the entity metadata format
lost matrix
Okay
Pls read a setup guide for either spigot or paper.
They both have official guides for setting up a project and compiling it.
mighty gazelle
Okay Thanks @lost matrix !
mavenCentral()
maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots")
maven("https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/")
maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/central")
}
dependencies {
testImplementation(platform("org.junit:junit-bom:5.9.1"))
testImplementation("org.junit.jupiter:junit-jupiter")
compileOnly("net.luckperms:api:5.3")
compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
}
java {
toolchain.languageVersion.set(JavaLanguageVersion.of(17))
}
It works not more
lost matrix
```repositories {
mavenCentral()
maven("https://oss.sonatype.org/content...
Do you need access to NMS?
mighty gazelle
What is NMS?
late sonnet
What is NMS?
then you dont need that
lost matrix
This is a clear no then.
Use spigot-api instead of spigot
compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
->
compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.20.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
Probably want to update to 1.20.4 as well
mighty gazelle
It works.... Thanks 7smile7!
fossil axle
So now my plugin is working but it's causing a big error. Is there some way to post it here?
Can anyone help?
warm mica
So now my plugin is working but it's causing a big error. Is there some way to p...
the return value of "org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerInteractEvent.getClickedBlock()" is null
You didn't click on a black whereby it returns null
warm mica
Yes, that would fix the error
fossil axle
Ok, thanks
warm mica
You're welcome
eternal night
?blockpdc
undone axleBOT
Learn about CustomBlockData here:
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-block-data-persistentdatacontainer-for-blocks.512422/
eternal night
?morepdc
undone axleBOT
You can create custom persistent data types on your own, or use one of the many libraries available which have implemented those which match your needs. Learn about more persistent data types here: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/more-persistent-data-types-collections-maps-and-arrays-for-pdc.520677/
eternal night
?pdc
fossil axle
You're welcome
I added this if (!e.getClickedBlock().equals(null)){CODE} but now it's complaining about the return value of event.getClickedBlock being null
Did I check the wrong way?
fossil axle
Oh
eternal night
you'd be trying to call the .equals method on null
fossil axle
oh
eternal night
which would lead to a null pointer exception
fossil axle
I'm not fully awake yet I guess
fluid river
yo guys
How can i sync this
that's a pretty normal situation for real life i guess
i can probably start quest like "Return knife to it's owner" for p2
and when he completes it, i remove the knife quest from p1 with message like "Cancelled BringMeMyKnife since other player passed it"
lost matrix
How can i sync this
Just as you described
fluid river
is that actually a good solution
i avoid collecting the knife if quest wasn't started at all
i just spawn it in random chest on the map when somebody takes the quest
lost matrix
Why wouldnt you let each player have his own quest? Is this a first come, first serve quest that can only be done once?
fluid river
Why wouldnt you let each player have his own quest? Is this a first come, first ...
i'm thinking about making a co-op(2-4) open-world rpg with zero mechanics
just as a test project
World is controlled by server, so every action is displayed for both players
so if one passed the quest like "KILL THIS GIANT MONSTER WHO IS ONLY 1 IN THE WORLD"
second player can't kill him again since it's breaking the world story
lost matrix
Alright. Then why are there two knifes to begin with?
fluid river
there is only one
lost matrix
What... Let me read your problem again
rapid pelican
Why would the knife spawn in the dungeon if the quest didn't start?
rapid pelican
I get it
eternal oxide
Don;t spawn it at all. Only spawn it upon opening a chest with the quest active.
fluid river
Don;t spawn it at all. Only spawn it upon opening a chest with the quest active.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
lost matrix
i'm thinking about making a co-op(2-4) open-world rpg with zero mechanics
Ok. I think i understand the problem.
Solution: Dont let each player have their own quests. Create a group object which holds the quests.
All players are in this group. If one player solves a quest, then everyone has solved it because the quest
is not owned by the players but their group.
eternal oxide
easy to add to the chest contents when opened
fluid river
so second player won't be able to get it at all this way