help-development

[foggy cave]

i tried this but setList isnt a method

[chrome beacon]

I mean just set with a list*

set(key, list)

[ivory sleet]

🥲

[tall dragon]

nvm fellas i found out my issue

😄

[wet breach]

sweet

always good when you find out the issue yourself 🙂

[tall dragon]

yea and its pretty stupid as well

forgot i set my items unbreakable

[river oracle]

durability can be used for texturing

not sure if this is still true in modern versions

basically make sure you or your texture packs aren't abusing durability for textures

[tall dragon]

yea i alrdy figured it out. thanks tho :d

[river oracle]

oh I didn't see :P

[chrome beacon]

use custom model data if possible

[river oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/birthday-happybirthday-cat-gif-13578231230544507854

[quaint mantle]

how do i set noclip state for falling blocks

so they can actually go thru blocks

[chrome beacon]

You'd need to override their behavior using NMS as far as I'm aware

or just move them yourself

[lament maple]

does someone have the dependency for paper 1.8.8

[hazy parrot]

🧑‍⚖️

[rough ibex]

1.8 augh

[wet breach]

maybe ask the people who make it?

[lament maple]

they dont give support for it anymore

and you gotta serach the whole internet just to find this stupid dependency

[wet breach]

and since when did spigot started providing support for things that are not theirs?

[lament maple]

idk just asking ppl

[rough ibex]

with good reason, i believe

1.8.8 is 8+ years old

get over it

[river oracle]

actually 9 years old

?1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[icy beacon]

7 is an understatement iirc

?1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[icy beacon]

Fucking hell

[rough ibex]

so amended

[river oracle]

L slow

[icy beacon]

Sniped on both

[icy beacon]

Great minds think alike*

[rough ibex]

regardless

stop using 1.8

[icy beacon]

I'll never stop playing on 1.8 🥲

[river oracle]

but you can spam click

[icy beacon]

But coding against it is pain

[river oracle]

1.9 was the worst update in minecraft history

[icy beacon]

There are like 9 total blocks in 1.8

[river oracle]

not even lying

[icy beacon]

You can't even use like end rods

[rough ibex]

1.9 was a great update

you just don't like it because you can't spam click and win pvp

[river oracle]

it was horrible for the exact reason that 1.8 still exists

[icy beacon]

Eh it's opinionated, maybe we should not entertain this conversation??

Or at least not in this channel

[rough ibex]

anyway we won't/can't provide whatever paper 1.8 he wants

[icy beacon]

Yep , good conclusion

Good night y'all I'm hitting that bed

[lament maple]

how to bypass 1.8.8 nametag 16 characters limit there has to be a way

[rough ibex]

no

you are using a 8 year old version

there is no way to bypass it

[shadow night]

Isn't it 9 years old already

[rough ibex]

almost

check link above

1.8.8 is legacy and deprecated - stop using it

[shadow night]

Pvp is not a reason

[river oracle]

You don't

Uhm actually I lied

Mod the client

[eternal night]

abuse the log4j exploit if some people still run that

[river oracle]

Oh smart

[rough ibex]

probably won't work since it's patched at the launcher level

[river oracle]

Hmmm gonna have to have a custom client then smh mojang

[lament maple]

theres a work around using packets with minecrafts code but i dont do that to myself thats complicated

[tardy delta]

hmm in kotlin are you supposed to be calling == or === to compare with null, == would call equals, but whats the point of equals(null)?

[rotund ravine]

Doesn’t matter

[tardy delta]

so the same code gets generated?

[rough ibex]

yes

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/equality.html#structural-equality

Note that there's no point in optimizing your code when comparing to null explicitly: a == null will be automatically translated to a === null.

[tardy delta]

an optimizing compiler, good

[rough drift]

💯

[quiet ice]

I am not sure whether that can even be treated as an optimization

It's no like it calls Objects#equals(...) when comparing with null

[minor junco]

(like most compilers lol)

[tardy delta]

i was talking about javac

the point is still that the jit compiler does most of the work

[native nexus]

wtf 1.20.4 doesn't have apache common...

[minor junco]

i mean yeah JIT is crazy in optimizing, but there's also a bunch of CT optimization

[wet breach]

this is not true, the java compiler actually does quite a bit of work in optimizing your code

the jit just goes further for during runtime

[rough drift]

I tried making an AOT

it is not fun

[native nexus]

Why did they remove apache common from spigot?

[tardy delta]

would it optimize this
bool a = expensiveCalc() || true
bool b = expensiveCalc()
if (a || b)

lemme actually look at some bytecode

[minor junco]

i'd assume so

[rotund ravine]

The JIT also optimizes at some point

[rough drift]

I'd hope so

[wet breach]

if it is able to, yes it would

[quiet ice]

It's an implementation detail now

[quiet ice]

it would not. It is basically the same as if (expensiveCalc() | expensiveCalc())

[echo basalt]

No because they can return different results

[rough drift]

Actually yeah @quiet ice is right

UNLESS

they are pure functions

[quiet ice]

(Yes, for some reason there is a diff between || and |)

[echo basalt]

bitwise OR

[rough drift]

yes, one is a logical OR and the other is a bitwise OR

[tardy delta]

actually dumb example, yes expensiveCalc() might return different values 💀

[quiet ice]

So here is the trick question: Isn't it the same?

[wet breach]

no

[rough drift]

Nope

[quiet ice]

Yes I know

[native nexus]

If you have done any kind of programming degree you will understand the difference between | and ||

[quiet ice]

So how?

[rough drift]

logical or runs the right only if the left isn't true

[quiet ice]

correct.

[rough drift]

While the bitwise OR literally runs the bitwise OR operation, requiring both expressions to be evaluated

[tardy delta]

well either way it doesnt do it when it sees that call returns a constant

[rough ibex]

for short-circuiting ones, which is generally true

[wet breach]

well it changes the bits using the ones from the left and applying them to the one on the right

[rough drift]

I mean yes

[quiet ice]

I'm not sure if <bool> | <bool> even runs a bitwise OR, given that the JVMS does not properly define the values of booleans (only those of booleans in arrays)

[wet breach]

what do you mean doesn't define the value of boolean

[rotund ravine]

Fake!

[rough drift]

it doesn't properly define boolean as a data type, booleans are just bytes

[wet breach]

I mean, not sure what you would define with a single bit

[rotund ravine]

It doesn’t even define it as a single bit iirc.

[rough drift]

it's a full 8 byte @wet breach

[wet breach]

well Boolean is an object and is a type, boolean is a primitive

[rough drift]

Yes, but that's the java syntax spec & java std lib, we're talking about the JVM spec

the JVM itself doesn't have a boolean data type

[wet breach]

the size of a boolean in java is 1 bit, however in terms of actual memory usage may be larger since most data types involving bits are backed by an integer anyhow

[minor junco]

booleans are not a single bit

[quiet ice]

The verifier does not care whether a boolean has a value of let's say -1 or 1. Different JVMs may interpret it differently

[tardy delta]

does an ior

[wet breach]

well all the JLS says is this The boolean type has exactly two values: true and false

[tender shard]

is paper now already marking NMS fields as deprecated or where is this coming from lol

[wet breach]

so, if implementation wise a JVM uses -1 and 1 to distinguish between the values I suppose its fine as long as true and false are returned

normally it shouldn't be a concern for a java application to care about implementation detail if it doesn't change the outcome

[quiet ice]

Well in C 0 is false and non-0 is true. In java, 1 is true, 0 is false and everything else is JVM-dependent

[tardy delta]

sounds fun

[quiet ice]

But yeah, javac makes use of IOR for this

Furthermore, the JVMS defines the IF<cond> opcodes as tests against 0 - C-style

[tardy delta]

btw geol, would you know some kind of program that translates bytecode mnemonics to actual bytecode?

[quiet ice]

I do not know what bytecode mnemonics are

[tardy delta]

i mean like imagine typing istore_1 and stuff

[quiet ice]

Like I have heard that word, but I cannot attach anything to it

[rough ibex]

if you want actual bytecode open the file in a hex editor

[quiet ice]

istore_1 is an actual opcode I think

[tardy delta]

uh ye

[rough ibex]

there you have it

you can use godbolt for quick java snippets

[tardy delta]

actually my question sounds silly, translating bytecodes in text form to actual ones

[dry hazel]

yeah that one is deprecated in a patch but I don't think it's actively done anymore

[tardy delta]

was looking for something that reads this and compiles it to an actual .class file

[quiet ice]

I have heard of a few assemblers that do have such support, but honestly there is probably little reason to not use an more standard assembler such as https://github.com/jumanji144/Jasm

The openJDK team have their own assembler and krakatau is another known assembler

[wet breach]

probably could literally just do it yourself, I mean all you would be missing is the compile sig that its a class file

[tardy delta]

ye i could just write a quick parser

[wet breach]

and some of the headers etc

[tardy delta]

well ye the constantpool would be an issue lol

[quiet ice]

There is also the absolute hell of https://github.com/Starloader-project/java-bytecode-differential/blob/main/src/main/java/de/geolykt/starloader/bcdiff/assembler/SLAssmbler.java which uses a slightly modified version of Recaf 2X syntax, but it's sub-par in quality and nigh untested

[tardy delta]

i mean i wrote a classfile reader so making a writer should be a fun project too \🤓

[rotund ravine]

Do it

[tardy delta]

i actually might

[rotund ravine]

Do it

[quiet ice]

there is no reason to do so.

[tardy delta]

but got enough to work on in the meantime

[young knoll]

I think that might be Mojang

Since the TPS can be changed now

[quiet ice]

ASM is more than great. If ASM is too high-level (e.g. due to obfuscation or if you need direct access to the constant pool), cafedude (https://github.com/Col-E/CAFED00D) should be used

[tardy delta]

classfile writer?

looks like it

[quiet ice]

Yes, that is the library used by recaf to transform heavily obfuscated classes to comply by ASM's standards

[tardy delta]

oeh nice to know

[quiet ice]

I also use it for some "do it fast" mass transformers - such as https://github.com/Starloader-project/galimulator-lwjgl3ify, https://github.com/Starloader-project/smatterDI or https://github.com/Geolykt/TTDeploy

It's only shortcoming is that it isn't great when you need to compute stackmaps, given that it lacks the built-in support for it and doing it yourself is more than eternal pain

[tardy delta]

you seem to be a transformer enthusiast

i even forgot what stackmaps were used for again

[quiet ice]

They are required for Java 7+ bytecode for the verifier. That is pretty much it - I believe the JVM doesn't even use it

[quiet ice]

I've written an extreme amount of modloading-related code from scratch given that galimulator doesn't have a native modding community. So I extremely like my java bytecode

[tardy delta]

ahh here they are, once wrote a definition for them

[quiet ice]

Is that rust?

[tardy delta]

// Each stack map frame specifies (either explicitly or implicitly) a bytecode offset,
// the verification types for the local variables, and the verification types for the operand stack.

odin, you wont know the language

[rough drift]

odin noo

[quiet ice]

yep, never heard of it

[tardy delta]

https://github.com/FourteenBrush/Classreader/blob/5f44a8a0796f3f5833bd9cadb1e9f58becccde2c/src/reader/stackmap.odin#L5

another one of those system languages that tries to gain popularity

[rough ibex]

https://tenor.com/bBEmy.gif

[tardy delta]

?

[rough ibex]

"general-purpose programming language with distinct typing built for high performance, modern systems and data-oriented programming. "

[quiet ice]

Especially in combination with bugs you made outside of stackmap writing code (such as https://github.com/Col-E/CAFED00D/issues/24 which bit me last time I tried this heh) computing the stackmap offsets is fun for the whole family and mainly consists out of trial-by-error

[tardy delta]

looking forwards to a lot of bugs

[quiet ice]

oh, and depending on what kind of classes you want to read you'd also need to write your own low-level zip reader

[tardy delta]

hmm?

[quiet ice]

though chances are you do not want/need to

[quiet ice]

Java supports jars that aren't exactly conforming to standard zip principles

[tardy delta]

oh dunno, im still waiting for a pr that adds zip files reading to the lang lol

[quiet ice]

oh wow, that much be an incredibly immature language then

[tardy delta]

i mean it has a lot of things but not everything

could always generate a c binding

still community driven

[rough ibex]

what's exactly the point of using this lang specifically

[tardy delta]

its a nice c alternative

and it has a bit of go's semantics

[quiet ice]

Hm, the main advantage of go that interests me is that unlike java, the unsafe is actually supported over there

[wet breach]

https://odin-lang.org/

[quiet ice]

But I have never used go (nor most other languages) so I cannot comment too much on it

[wet breach]

go is pretty interesting

I used it for a proxy way back when and it was actually pretty decent

[quiet ice]

The problem with a lot of programming languages is that they are remarkably difficult to use in a multi-platform environment

[tardy delta]

especially low level languages yes

[quiet ice]

Main reason I am not at all interested at C# even though it should be a better java according to some

[tardy delta]

one might call it less bloat, but at that point just use kotlin

im gonna get a lot of criticism on this one

[quiet ice]

Kotlin is a remarkably bloaty solution

[slender elbow]

Oak is the perfect programming language

[wet breach]

C# works well for windows

[quiet ice]

I've been debating for a while now whether to use kotlin scripting or XML/HOCON for my build tool and given kotlin's size the latter might be the better option

[tardy delta]

id even call it cleaner the moment you start to use it

started converting some of my java projects to kotlin cuz its less bloat and has some cool semantics

[quiet ice]

Yeah, problem is that I am on Linux - where the CLR assembler/disassembler doesn't even roundtrip correctly which is an extremely major red flag to me

[tardy delta]

why are we still using xml in 2024 though \🥺

[quiet ice]

For all intents and purposes it is a solid configuration language

[spare mason]

where i can find a good git ignore template?

[tardy delta]

github has a repo full of gitignores

[quiet ice]

.* - done

[spare mason]

what does that?

[tardy delta]

not dynamic enough in my eyes and then it gets bloat

[rotund ravine]

Evrrything

[spare mason]

i don't really understand it

[quiet ice]

although target and build probably should get excluded too

[spare mason]

i just want to have the src there xd

[quiet ice]

Exclude every hidden file and folder

[tardy delta]

https://github.com/github/gitignore

[rough ibex]

then use that

you can type gitignore yourself

but likely a good idea to use one for java generally

[rotund ravine]

Here u go a gitignore https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/blob/2.x/.gitignore

[spare mason]

i don't really know how that works

[rough ibex]

Good chance to learn

[spare mason]

do i really have to learn git ignore?

[quiet ice]

The problem with a configuration language being dynamic is that you WILL get into a situation where everyone does it their own way.

[tardy delta]

lets say data types

[quiet ice]

Gitignores are trivial in nature

[spare mason]

there's no method to just exclude everything but src?

[tardy delta]

heres the format https://git-scm.com/docs/gitignore

[quiet ice]

data types as in ints versus floats versus doubles or wha?

[quiet ice]

There is, but you should not. You should at least include your pom.xml or build.gradle

[tardy delta]

i was thinking about build files, in xml you just stuff everything in between two tags and call it a day

[spare mason]

any particular reason of why?

[rough ibex]

just learn git

[tardy delta]

to be able to build the project from source

[rough ibex]

Gitignore is just a list of files to not be added

[tardy delta]

i mean if you look at gradle build files, it gets a bit better already

[rough ibex]

Rather, to keep untracked

[tardy delta]

but thats just my opinion

[quiet ice]

You can use something like follows:

*
!src/
!pom.xml
!build.gradle
!gradlew
!gradlew.bat
!settings.gradle
!gradle/wrapper/
!README.*
!.gitignore

(You'd also need to include the license file but given that there are a bazillion paths for those I choose to not add it here)

[quiet ice]

I don't exactly understand the problem with that? Shouldn't that be the definition of a good configuration language - to be able to do things quickly without having to look at it again?

[quiet ice]

(Also I haven't tested such an approach - but in theory that ought to work)

[tardy delta]

dunno this conversation just started because i dont like xml

[quiet ice]

Yeah, but wouldn't yaml, toml, hocon or anything else for that matter suffer from the same drawbacks?

[tardy delta]

i'm currently using a yml based build system 🥲

[rough ibex]

then use JSON

[tardy delta]

https://taskfile.dev/, a bit like a Makfile though

[rough ibex]

or json5 if you're cool

[quiet ice]

I knowingly did not include JSON because even I can state that it is complete bullshit for configuration files

[river oracle]

Json is nice

[quiet ice]

Yeah, but the lack of comment support doesn't make it attractive to me

[rough ibex]

which is why I use JSON5

[tardy delta]

just do "__comment1": "hello there" lol

[rough ibex]

and then use a JSON5 parser -> JSON -> parse that

[river oracle]

Or just enable comments

[rough ibex]

easily integrate into existing json environments

[quiet ice]

So if I ever need a JSON-like language with comments I use HOCON, whose only drawback is the fact that it doesn't have many implementing libraries

[river oracle]

Doesn't gson already have comment support I'm like 20.3% sure you can do some settings on their builder

Maybe I'm just hallucinating

[rough ibex]

https://github.com/google/gson/issues/212

this?

doesn't seem like it went anywhere

[quiet ice]

And well given that I use configurate to implement my configuration files in these cases I can easily switch/support different config languages if I want to

[river oracle]

Clearly just hallucinate then

[rough ibex]

youre AI

[quiet ice]

I am pretty sure that gson supports comments, at least in it's lenient mode

[rough ibex]

lenient just makes it swallow exceptions and try to read anyway

JSON does not allow comments in the spec

[quiet ice]

Well, looks like comment support to me anyways

[rough ibex]

still, I use JSON5 generally anyway

just better

[quiet ice]

is there a decent enough json5 lib for java even?

[spare mason]

what does the license file?

[rough ibex]

https://github.com/marhali/json5-java

all you need is something that spits out valid JSON

[quiet ice]

State what people can do with you code

[rough ibex]

and then use whatever JSON lib you want

I like using jankson but I know there are others

[quiet ice]

Pretty much a must-have if you want to distribute your code online, as by default it is ARR (all rights reserved) which makes the act of publishing the code pretty much useless

[rough ibex]

LBPDT license /s

[near barn]

com.sk89q.worldguard:worldguard-bukkit🫙6.1.3 was not found in https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-public/ during a previous attempt. This failure was cached in the local repository and resolution is not reattempted until the update interval of papermc-repo has elapsed or updates are forced

Try to run Maven import with -U flag (force update snapshots)

When trying to load maven changes I get this error 😦 somebody that knows why

[quiet ice]

https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/de.marhali/json5-java/2.0.0 hm, 41679 bytes - not bad

[spare mason]

can i just put a license file and write "do what you want with this code"?

[rough ibex]

because worldguard isn't in the paper repo

you can check the index yourself.

[river oracle]

You need to add the world edit repo

[tardy delta]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL :|

[quiet ice]

Though CC-0 is the more professional approach for that ;)

[dry hazel]

or the unlicense

[tardy delta]

instead of teaching us about licenses in college they teach us a bunch of ethics

[river oracle]

Who tf cares about ethics

[tardy delta]

nobody, we are doing cs

[river oracle]

Teach me my licenses so I know who I can sue

[spare mason]

what is cs?

[river oracle]

Compsci

[tardy delta]

computer science

[spare mason]

ooooohhhh

why licenses? isn't coding community like we all have the code that some dude made years ago

[near barn]

Where do I find the worldguard repo?

[rough ibex]

because your intellectual property is yours

[tardy delta]

https://worldguard.enginehub.org/en/latest/developer/dependency/

[rough ibex]

and it is up to you for how you want others to use it

you own your works

[river oracle]

Licensing is nice becuaase having no specified license is much less freeing to other devs than something like gplv3 or MIT

[quiet ice]

oh god not the GPL

[river oracle]

GPL INFECTION!!!!

[quiet ice]

You give me nightmares with these three letters

[tardy delta]

woo fun

[river oracle]

It's not that bad stay mad

[spare mason]

is gpl a cancer?

[quiet ice]

(especially once you put the letter "A" in front of them)

[tardy delta]

kinda

a very well spreading one

[river oracle]

It being cancerous is what makes it a nice license tho

[tardy delta]

bet youve been using chatgpt all other times

isnt that the bukkit logger

[river oracle]

Yeah not much you can do about it

Unless you do some asm patching type shit

[tardy delta]

i believe even vanilla has that

[river oracle]

Actually you might beable to edit the log4j file to not log

[quiet ice]

Yep

[river oracle]

But that stoll requires a patch

[quiet ice]

log4j probably has one or the other hidden features where you can add log filters

And you can easily specify custom log4j configs via system properties

[dry hazel]

you can even reconfigure on runtime

[quaint mantle]

How does bukkit know what plugin uses System.out

Do they analyze the stack

[eternal night]

Yes

[quaint mantle]

All that just to display "Nag the authors..."?

[eternal night]

indeed

[quaint mantle]

lmao

[remote swallow]

that is paper

not bukkit

[tender shard]

was about to say

[remote swallow]

@eternal night you should know that smh

[river oracle]

Why do you guys nag just asm sysouts into logs

[tardy delta]

System.setOut ig

[remote swallow]

get people to use logger

[slender elbow]

I prefer writing to new FileOutputStream(FileDescriptor.out) myself

[remote swallow]

did you commit something to chunky

[slender elbow]

uh i think

[remote swallow]

i got pinged by chunky and i thought i saw you on it

[slender elbow]

yeah i'm in the chunky channel

oh

i see

pop is saying he pinged me directly because i contributed lmao

[remote swallow]

yup

[golden turret]

how do i specifically disable those kind of warnings in the javadoc?

[remote swallow]

gradle?

[golden turret]

yes

[remote swallow]

kotlin or groovy

[river oracle]

Groovy

[remote swallow]

javadoc.options.addStringOption("Xdoclint:none", "-quiet")

it should be that anyway

[golden turret]

yes, i tried that

[slender elbow]

i didn't mean to super react

[golden turret]

but it also disables another kinds of warnings

[river oracle]

@slender elbow I've ascended I use gradle.kts now

[golden turret]

i just want to disable to that specific warning

[river oracle]

Oh no!!!! Now you gotta pay discord your soul

[slender elbow]

not paying a cent

[strong forge]

you're welcome

[remote swallow]

you have nitro, you have unlimited

[slender elbow]

omg look it's nanahira

[remote swallow]

omg its the chunky guy

[tender shard]

@river oracle you know what

[river oracle]

Hm what

What do I know?????

😭

[tender shard]

https://github.com/SpigotBasics/basics/pull/130 here

[remote swallow]

what do you know

[river oracle]

Heart emoji

[remote swallow]

wait a mother frickin minute

where the fiuck is reobfJar coming from

thats not in patrick choes remapper

[tender shard]

it's paperweight so that people won't have to run buildtools for 12 versions

[remote swallow]

smh

[slender elbow]

oh no

[remote swallow]

just use the totally legal codemc nms repo

[quiet ice]

didn't it get nuked?

[remote swallow]

not that i know of

[quiet ice]

meh, I am too lazy to see for myself

[remote swallow]

https://repo.codemc.io/#browse/browse:nms

[inner mulch]

are java methods atomic?

if not, how i make them atomic?

[rough ibex]

You can syncronize

[minor junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_exclusion

synchronized can lock on an object

so it locks on the object and unlocks as soon as the synchronized block goes out of scope

in other programming languages you may have to manually unlock or if you use other kind of locks

[ivory sleet]

atomicity regards to an operation being indivisible, that is, either it did take action, or it did not, we cant observe the progress/the middle of the operation

the keyword volatile is not enough alone to guarantee atomicity, you will need something stronger that either ensures mutual exclusion to one thread at a time, or something that calls a low level arch instruction that can atomically swap the value if a variable if that value is equal to some other expected value

for instance AtomicReference is nice since it has an getAndUpdate which does it atomically

however if you have multiple state variables that share invariants to one another you’d probably need to use an intrinsic lock (java synchronized), or some other mechanism like semaphore, reentrantlock or stampedlock

[polar pulsar]

Hi, I'm trying to detect when the player has broken an elytra

@EventHandler
public void onPlayerItemDamageEvent(PlayerItemDamageEvent event) {
    if (event.getItem().getType() != Material.ELYTRA) return;
    Damageable damageable = (Damageable) event.getItem().getItemMeta();
    if ((damageable.getHealth() - event.getDamage()) > 1) return;
    DbHelper.setTrackedMissionEligibilityToTrue(event.getPlayer().getUniqueId(), "BreakElytraMission");
}

however it wont cast the item metadata to damagable when the item takes damage

[16:33:02 ERROR]: Could not pass event PlayerItemDamageEvent to NebulaSurvivalRanks v1.0-SNAPSHOT
java.lang.ClassCastException: class org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R3.inventory.CraftMetaItem cannot be cast to class org.bukkit.entity.Damageable (org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R3.inventory.CraftMetaItem and org.bukkit.entity.Damageable are in unnamed module of loader java.net.URLClassLoader @61e717c2)

[young knoll]

Wrong damagable import

Notice the org.bukkit.entity.Damagable

[polar pulsar]

ahhh

[ivory sleet]

classic one :,)

[young knoll]

At least it isn’t structure

You’re lucky I didn’t call the new structure class Structure as well :p

[ivory sleet]

So you considered it at least?

[young knoll]

It was tempting

[ivory sleet]

lmao

[slender elbow]

volatile isn't much about atomicity but visibility

most field type writes are atomic excepting for longs and doubles (which are not guaranteed but jvm implementors are encouraged to make them atomic anyway lmao)

volatile just makes that change immediately visible to other threads

"just"

[ivory sleet]

yeah true, but its kinda needed if you want to optimistically write without heavy locking (like try to CAS and if it fails, try again)

[slender elbow]

oh apparently writes to non-volatile longs and doubles are not guaranteed to be atomic (but encouraged to be)

[ivory sleet]

talking about a read modify write op

[slender elbow]

writes to volatile longs and doubles are atomic

5head

[ivory sleet]

:^)

[slender elbow]

oh yeah defo

inter thread will certainly need volatile at the most basic level

without it your program is flawed

[ivory sleet]

yup yup

[umbral ridge]

hey

whats the enum for last damage cause

cant find it

in other words, what are all possible death causes for a player

what does it return, EntityDamageEvent itself cant be an enum, where's the list of all possible causes???https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Entity.html#getLastDamageCause()

[young knoll]

Get the cause from the event

[umbral ridge]

what is getCause()

i mean that doesnt even exist

[slender elbow]

it does

in the event

[umbral ridge]

what does it return

[slender elbow]

damagecause or smth

[umbral ridge]

yes

finally

thanks!

[slender elbow]

are you writing code on notepad or something

[umbral ridge]

no im just guessing right now since im gonna do this project tomorrow

[young knoll]

There’s also the new damage api if you are on the absolute latest version

[umbral ridge]

yea i am

whats it called?

[umbral ridge]

EmilyTypingEvent

[slender elbow]

I'm not?

lol

[young knoll]

DamageSource and DamageType

[slender elbow]

discord

[umbral ridge]

this is similar https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityDamageEvent.DamageCause.html

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/damage/DamageType.html

[young knoll]

Mhm

[umbral ridge]

just reorganized? were there any code changes

[young knoll]

But damage type is registry backed

[umbral ridge]

ahh

yeah sure why not ill use it

it's also named better

enums are named better

[young knoll]

Well it’s not an enum

Cuz yk, registry backed

[umbral ridge]

right Keyed

xD

[young knoll]

Death to the enums

[ivory sleet]

poor enums

[umbral ridge]

Keyed will take over the entire spigot

[ivory sleet]

Lol yeah

[umbral ridge]

every enum will become Keyed

[ivory sleet]

Well mojang sided, more stuff gets registrified for each version so having that transparent in the api might be a huge W

[umbral ridge]

Imagine if spigot was rewritten from scratch

how much work would paper have to do xD

and all forks

[ivory sleet]

Would fix a lot of mistakes that were made ages ago

[umbral ridge]

yeah

you could rewrite it Conclube

I believe in you

[ivory sleet]

Oh Im not a 10x dev

but hmm, maybe once I finish my uni

[young knoll]

If spigot is so good why isn’t there spigot2

[ivory sleet]

Its just… a lot of work

[umbral ridge]

it would be a lot of work and

time

[ivory sleet]

If minecraft is so good, why isnt there a minecraft2

[young knoll]

Well technically

[ivory sleet]

yea

[young knoll]

There was the April fools snapshot

[ivory sleet]

walmart minecraft2

Spexx I also don’t know if I know the mojang codebase good enough

[umbral ridge]

xD

noone knows

noone knows their secrets

[young knoll]

Something something just slap a codec on it

[remote swallow]

Illusion does

[ivory sleet]

Like, I know it better than most people probably lol, but you’d need a couple of big brain devs to cover the entire codebase

[umbral ridge]

yeah

I dont know how much I know about it.. I know some things.. but the more you know.. the less you think you know

[ivory sleet]

Also like, caring about thread safety whilst keeping transparency in a proxy like api can be hard

[ivory sleet]

that was deep

True

[umbral ridge]

lol

xD

you never know maybe there will be spigot2 in a few years some dude on github who you've never seen before will present its own version and get popular and the cycle repeats.. eh

[young knoll]

I think that’s just

Insert fork here

[ivory sleet]

I think the biggest pivot point towards an entire rewrite would mainly be to upgrade the transparency that the api holds between mojangs source/impl and bukkit api itself

but like, there is a certain fork that I wont name, which does try to do this within the bounds of the legacy api remnants

[young knoll]

hmm

📄 🤔

[ivory sleet]

cant confirm nor deny

[young knoll]

Ah yes of course the default emoji isn’t :paper:

[ivory sleet]

lmao

sheet?

[young knoll]

It’s page_facing_up

[ivory sleet]

[young knoll]

The enum PR will help make things much more cohesive with Mojangs stuffs

Eventually™️

[ivory sleet]

lol

enum pr, by that u mean deprecating and removing them riiiight?

[young knoll]

Yes

Well, some get deprecated some get the ASM treatment

[ivory sleet]

Ah yes

ofc ofc, hit them with brig like stuff

[young knoll]

It’s not toooo bad from what I’ve seen

[ivory sleet]

W

[young knoll]

It’s mostly just turning invokeVirtual into invokeInterface afaik

[ivory sleet]

ah yea, makes sense

[golden turret]

why is that happening?

just invalided the caches butt it is still happening

[ivory sleet]

is that valid syntax?

thought y’d had to to sth like
implementation(project("blh"))

For each one

[golden turret]

you can use multiple

[ivory sleet]

thought that meant like "group”, “artifact”, “version” lol

as a means to separate the different operands

instead of :

In that case

You got nested modules right?

[golden turret]

yes

but i think i found the issue

that dependency is compiled with java 21

while the project is on java 16

[ivory sleet]

Oh

That could be it lol

[golden turret]

but 1.20.4 is built with another version too and it works fine 🤔

[ivory sleet]

Ugh, I’m not keen with gradle anymore, but java versioning both for gradle and for the build pipeline itself can be painful

[orchid brook]

Hi i want to have multi module for nms multiple version, i have a module v1_20_R2 with this build.gradle:

    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.2:remapped-mojang'
    compileOnly 'com.github.Mojang:DataFixerUpper:e843dac1eb'
}

I just want to make sure if it's good, in case anyone knows

[ivory sleet]

looks completely fine

:)

[young knoll]

I don’t think you need DFU separately

You also don’t need spigot-api if you are using spigot

[ivory sleet]

truee

[orchid brook]

So i can put it in my root dependencies ?

[ivory sleet]

What do u need dfu for

[young knoll]

DFU should be already part of spigot

Since it’s part of the vanilla server

[ivory sleet]

And its quite rare to use it explicitly nours

[orchid brook]

Yep i will remove api and dfu so and just keep the spigot:1.20.2 remapped

[ivory sleet]

i doubt u rely on dfu classes right?

[golden turret]

but how are you going to obfuscate the spigot again when building?

[young knoll]

Hopefully they have one of the unofficially remappers :p

[orchid brook]

Do I have to use remapped?

I can just do that right ? :

    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
}

[young knoll]

No but it’s way nicer to work with

You can, if you want

[ivory sleet]

its highly recommended , as in (do it for ur own sanity) to use a remapper

[golden turret]

and you need to obfuscate it when building

[orchid brook]

only if i use the remapped one ?

[young knoll]

But I love Level.a().h().c();

[golden turret]

yes

[orchid brook]

hmm i don't know how to do that, i will use without remapped so

[ivory sleet]

rip

good luck then :>

[golden turret]

even though this is the spigot server, you can use the paperDevBundle, which gives you the remapped version and take care of the obfucation part

idk if it works with multiple versions

[young knoll]

There are gradle versions of specialsource

I just don’t know how well they work

[orchid brook]

Actually, to tell you everything, I've been trying to configure everything correctly in Gradle between the root and the different modules for several hours, but I can't manage it because most tutorials are done with Maven

[ivory sleet]

:,)

[orchid brook]

but wait, in first i was using the paper dev bundle

and someone tell me that if i use paper dev bundle, my plugin will not work on spigot server

[golden turret]

all clients i had and have use a paper based server

unless you use paper specific things, you wont have problems

[young knoll]

Your plugin can still run on spigot provided you don’t use any paper specific code

[golden turret]

like , if you use the adventure api which only is available in the paper server

[young knoll]

Which can get a bit annoying with NMS because who knows if the method is from paper or not

[orchid brook]

ohh i understand, paperdevbundle add more stuff, and until i don't use this, the plugin will still work on spigot ?

[golden turret]

likely

but i think most people uses paper based software

[ivory sleet]

it can be a bit annoying to get the paper stuff in the way, but its doable

[young knoll]

75% give or take

But that’s not 100%

[ivory sleet]

Yup

[orchid brook]

So, do you recommend that I use the Paper Dev Bundle?

[ivory sleet]

Well I always use it, buut as coll said, maybe there are special source gradle plugins

might be worth looking at

[young knoll]

There’s

https://github.com/patrick-choe/mojang-spigot-remapper

No idea how well it works though

[orchid brook]

i will use paper dev bundle and try to not use paper stuff

[torn shuttle]

huh is yt experiencing an outage?

[orchid brook]

So in my settings.gradle:

include 'NMS:v1_20_R2'

my root build.gradle:
https://pastebin.com/hD9SjYVF

[orchid brook]

Okay, so I have switched to the paperDevBundle. For example, the sendMessage() method is now deprecated. However, I can still use it, and it should still work on Spigot and Paper servers, if I understand correctly, right?

[young knoll]

Yes

[orchid brook]

Thx u all 🙂

[river oracle]

I'd reccomend the remapper here

It works great

And doesn't require you to depend on legacy paper methods

[orchid brook]

I tried to use it, but I couldn't set it up on my project idk

[river oracle]

Why? What went wrong?

Expound because I can verify it works

[young knoll]

Okay but make a better one

:D

[echo basalt]

Should I use packets or should I make some hardcore listeners for cosmetics

Think I'll go the packet route

[river oracle]

Epic is doing that

Ping him

[young knoll]

Don’t worry he already got a DM

[river oracle]

I'll build it if he don't finish in a week

I do believe he was making good progress tho

He's doing it in kotlin iirc so it'll take longer since not java

[orchid brook]

@river oracle Can i pm u ?

[river oracle]

No

[quaint mantle]

Hey guys I am wondering how I can use the latest spigot version and still have access to NMS, currently my server is running 1.20.4 and i need to use this in my project. I've had trouble attempting before so I ask for help.

https://paste.md-5.net/omiwituyeq.bash (my build.gradle)

[kind hatch]

You should be able to run BuildTools for the latest version and use the local maven repos.

repositories {
    mavenLocal()
    otherMavenRepos()
    etc
}

[orchid brook]

But why we need to obfuscate it back ?

[shadow night]

Because legal

[orchid brook]

thx

[torn shuttle]

you guys don't get it, I REALLY want to make sure the spectators are gone

[shadow night]

Lol

[ivory sleet]

You sure that’s enough though?

[torn shuttle]

hmmm

you're right, I'll assign spectators to be null on top of that

[ivory sleet]

lol, sounds solid 👍

[torn shuttle]

you know what's kinda annoying, extending match types but having them be event-based

so when you're extending methods they might be cancelled by the super and the state needs to be checked downstream

someone call mr java and tell them to make this less annoying

[ivory sleet]

Yea, that’s why implementation inheritance in general is annoying

You get these really tight parent child class relationships

[shadow night]

Well, parents and children lol

[ivory sleet]

yea

[zealous osprey]

That gives me the same vibe as using fclose in C on the stdout stream

[torn shuttle]

books have a hard limit of 50 pages right? or did I dream that?

hm I'm reading 100 in reddit posts

[shadow night]

Weren't they increased to 100 before

[upper hazel]

I had this situation. I load config data into special objects that store data about their sections. I have 2 files and their objects depend on each other. I will not be able to upload 1 file without the data of another and also vice versa what to do?

the only thing that comes to mind is to create a 3 object that stores everything in string or number values

[ivory sleet]

two objects have references to each other?

[upper hazel]

almost

more precisely, the files have unique ids and 2 files use each other’s id, but in order to use them you need to collect the object of these files, but in order to collect the object you need to get the Id of another object that has not yet been collected

[ivory sleet]

well one thing to consider is to make your concrete classes depend on interfaces (possible abstract classes) instead

another concept is ownership, that is that one of them owns the other, essentially making one of the classes responsible for referencing each other

the ugly way to do it is obviously lately use a setter to get the job done

[upper hazel]

i think i will use 2 option

[ivory sleet]

yeah, then its likely to see similar semantics to
new Other(this)
in one of ur classes

[upper hazel]

As I understand it, this happens to everyone when they try to use objects that do not exist at compile time but only at process time

[umbral ridge]

😂

[umbral ridge]

what are DFU classes

[ivory sleet]

Data fixer upper

Its a mojang lib that uses mathematical concepts to conveniently express transformations between data format versions sorta

like merging different data transformations, or optimizing them, or incrementally building them etc

[ivory sleet]

Yeah well, one could argue for that the design is bad when this happens

tho I wouldn’t worry too much about that

[umbral ridge]

interesting 😂

[ivory sleet]

yup

Well, its kinda neat but somewhat overly mathematical

[sullen marlin]

'convenient'

[ivory sleet]

🥲

[buoyant viper]

think u better run that a few more times

[rough drift]

same vibe as

function test() {
  if(condition) {
    return;
    return; // Protecting against solar flares
  }
}

[quaint mantle]

how to set noclipstate for falling blocks

[lost matrix]

What do you mean by coclipstate? Is that supposed to be an nbt tag?

[quaint mantle]

no

in 1.16.5 nms you could set a entity to have no clipstate

so it can go through ground

but now i cant seem to find it

the falling block just falls and sets on ground but i want it to go thru the ground

[lost matrix]

Def need nms for that. Let me check if i can find something.

[quaint mantle]

alright

just so you know my server version is 1.19.4

[lost matrix]

There is no field for that so you need a custom FallingBlockEntity implementation it seems

[quaint mantle]

ugh

[sullen canyon]

yo is anyone online who could help me figure out some things regarding building the architecture of my project? Working of a minigame network at moment and have questions how to improve what I've got so far and what practices I might use

In case you have some spare time to help me im in the voice chat

[icy beacon]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[sullen canyon]

hard to explain in chat so in vc it's easier to show and explain

[icy beacon]

Gotcha, np

[quaint mantle]

can u guide me how to do that

[tender shard]

Wouldnt it be easier to use a BlockDisplay and let it fall manually?

[quaint mantle]

let me look into blockdisplay

i have never used or seen them

[quaint mantle]

how can i let it fall manually

[tender shard]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/blockdisplay-does-not-move-upon-setting-velocity.620726/#post-4646360

[quaint mantle]

thanks

can i just ask 1 more help

it becomes dark like this

bro got sunburned

[tender shard]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Display.Brightness.html set the block brightness

[quaint mantle]

o alr

[tender shard]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Display.html#setBrightness(org.bukkit.entity.Display.Brightness)

[quaint mantle]

int blockLight, int skyLight whats skylight

oh ok the second one

[tender shard]

idk I have only set block light to 15 and it worked

[inner mulch]

Does somebody know what the Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer method does internally? Is it expensive?

[tender shard]

which one? String or UUID?

[fallow gyro]

Under https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/the-chat-component-api/#events, the code:
message.setHoverEvent(new HoverEvent(HoverEvent.Action.SHOW_TEXT, new ComponentBuilder("Visit the Spigot website!").create()));

Is listed as the method for setting hover text of a text component. When I use this code in my IDE however, it seems to be saying that the method is depreciated. What would be the newer way of implementing some hover text for a text component?

Thanks.

[drowsy helm]

Are you using paper

[fallow gyro]

No, I am using Spigot

[drowsy helm]

And the imported api on your ide is spigot?

[inner mulch]

Both

[fallow gyro]

Yes it is

[drowsy helm]

Is it the setHoverEvent method thats deprecated

Or the hoverevent constructor

[fallow gyro]

I'm not sure if maybe that method has been depreciated, but the wiki page is outdated

Let me double check, hold on

[tender shard]

the UUID one shouldn't be a problem - the String one checks the cached player data and makes a web request to get the UUID if not found locally

[inner mulch]

Thanks

[fallow gyro]

Yes, it seems like it is. It seems that I'm able to pass three different data types into the method, so I'm fairly certain it's only the data type that ComponentBuilder().create() is returning.

'HoverEvent(net.md_5.bungee.api.chat.HoverEvent.Action, net.md_5.bungee.api.chat.BaseComponent[])' is deprecated

[quaint mantle]

teleportduration is for 1.20.x + i am on 1.19.5 ;c

[tender shard]

wrap your BaseComponent[] into a Text(...)

new HoverEent(action, new Text(myBaseComponentArray));

[fallow gyro]

Sorry, would you mind linking that for me? I can't seem to find HoverEvent in the spigot docs, so I'm guessing it's somewhere else?

[tender shard]

https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/chat/target/apidocs/net/md_5/bungee/api/chat/hover/content/Text.html
the link is at the top of the spigot page you linked

[eternal oxide]

https://javadoc.io/doc/net.md-5/bungeecord-chat/latest/index.html

[fallow gyro]

Also, would I be able to edit the wiki page for this method, or should I request that someone else does that for me? Thanks

[tender shard]

If you see the Edit button on the page, you can edit it

[fallow gyro]

Oh never mind, I was logged out for some reason. Thanks for the help! I'll edit the page now.

[icy beacon]

Is there anything in this code that could cause an unhealthy amount of connections? I have just experienced a "too many connections" error after having ran the api for 24 hours
https://paste.md-5.net/erecepuwoz.cpp

[eternal night]

if only there were connection pools

like hikaricp

[icy beacon]

Yeah I know those exist but I never took the time to actually try to understand how to use them

[quaint mantle]

so is there any other way to make falling blocks

[icy beacon]

Ktor (rest api lib i use) seems to have an entire guide on how to integrate hikaricp into it. I guess I gotta do some readig

[fallow gyro]

I've set one up in my more recent plugin. If you set up your database accessor classes to use a method like getConnection() instead of creating a new connection, you can make the change easily.

This is the DatabaseAccessor class I've set up, but ofc you'd be able to do it another way.

To be honest, you don't really need to worry too much about how it works under the hood at all once it's set up

[icy beacon]

Thanks for the intel 🙂 I like understanding what I am doing though. This code seems intuitive enough indeed, but I'm still going to do some reading on good practices etc

[fallow gyro]

Yeah of course haha. I found this post really helpful when setting this up, maybe it'll help you too :) https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-datasource-and-try-with-resources-how-to-connect-to-your-database-properly.480002/

[icy beacon]

I've changed my Database class and it now looks like this:
https://paste.md-5.net/cecipireta.pl

Admittedly, this does feel much cleaner, especially the block in query that I added

[short raptor]

What's the method to do coloured dust nowadays? I can't find any recent thread

I've gotten here

                attacker.getWorld().spawnParticle(Particle.DUST_COLOR_TRANSITION, attacker.getLocation().add(0, 1, 0), 100, 5, 1, 5, data);

``` I'm not sure what data to put

[orchid brook]

public int countBlockInChunk(Chunk chunk) {
    LevelChunk nmsChunk = (LevelChunk) ((CraftChunk) chunk).getHandle(ChunkStatus.FULL);
    LevelChunkSection[] chunkSections = nmsChunk.getSections();
    int count = 0;
  
    for (LevelChunkSection chunkSection : chunkSections) {
        if (chunkSection != null) {
            PalettedContainer<BlockState> allState = chunkSection.getStates();

            for (int i = 0; i < allState.getSerializedSize(); i++) {
                BlockState blockState = allState.get(i);

                // Check if the block state is not AIR
                if (blockState != Blocks.AIR.defaultBlockState()) {
                    count++;
                }
            }
        }
    }
    return count;
}

Hi back I'm exploring ways to optimize a block counting function in a chunk, and I'm seeking advice on potential improvements for better efficiency. The current function iterates through chunk sections, accesses a PalettedContainer to obtain block states, and counts non-air blocks.

The goal is to make this function as fast as possible. If you have any alternative approaches, optimizations, or best practices for counting blocks within a chunk, I would greatly appreciate your insights

[minor junco]

This doesn't really answer your question, but It might be more efficient to iterate using simple for x,y,z loops than creating unnecessary memory overhead to iterate through sections, unless you do it asynchronously

Since the size is known, you could also cut the iteration in half

[orchid brook]

yep right

But what do u mean by cut iteration in half ?

[minor junco]

Instead of iterating 16x16 you can iterate 8x8 and subtract from the 16th block. So you essentially do your air check twice in the most inner for loop

But if that really gives you any boost, only god knows

[orchid brook]

But I understood that using blockpalette was faster than iterate over all block someone explained this to me a little while ago

[minor junco]

It might be, I don't know the underlying specifics of get block anymlre

U might want to have a look in Bukkit's source

[fallow gyro]

Looking lovely!

[tender shard]

anyone know how to disable a specific check in gradle's ktlint plugin?

[tardy delta]

HikariDataSource().apply {} \😉

[icy beacon]

Truee

One sec

[tardy delta]

and you could replace .use { rs -> block(rs) } with .use(block) if you really wanted

[eternal night]

?

[icy beacon]

Oh yeah makes sense

[tender shard]

doesnt that require me to declare all the rules I want to use in a file?

I want to use the default settings and only disable one specific check

[rare rover]

💪

[icy beacon]

Try just disabling one and see if the default settings persist

Or maybe there's a default file somewhere

[tardy delta]

no reified generics?

[icy beacon]

Coolio:)

[tender shard]

also where am I even supposed to declare this?

[rare rover]

Not atm

[eternal night]

.editorconfig

See the rest of their wiki 😅

[tender shard]

I don't see any wiki? there's only a readme

and the readme doesnt mention anything about .editorconfig except that using an "additional one" is "not supported"

[eternal night]

your wiki abilities are as impressive as ever

[tender shard]

yeah well where is it?

[eternal night]

https://pinterest.github.io/ktlint/latest/

[tender shard]

oh I only checked the gradle plugin on github, not that one

[upper hazel]

what happens if 3 different codes work in 1 event one after another?

like code process 1 -> code procees 2 -> code process 3 -> end event

[young knoll]

then... they run in that order?

I don't understand the question

[upper hazel]

in the event there will be 3 methods working with it, which method will work and which will not, will this cause errors?

[eternal night]

all work

[rough drift]

no

they'll run in sequence

[upper hazel]

then what the effect will be

[eternal night]

depends on the code ? xD

"what is the effect of three different pieces of random code running after one another"

[upper hazel]

Will the effect of method 3 cancel out the effect of method 2?

[eternal night]

depends on method 2 ??

if method 2 sends a message to all players

but method 3 doesn't

that doesn't magically not send the message

[young knoll]

The state of the event at the end is what matters

[eternal night]

if method 1 mutates the event instance but method 2 mutates it again

them methods 2 mutation to (e.g.) cancelled state will take "priority" because well

its run after

[upper hazel]

let's say method 1 makes a broken block air and cancels it after method 2 drops the block via dropNaturally

[eternal night]

you can literally just think of it as the code of the two joined

with methods 2 code running directly after method 1

[upper hazel]

so 2 method cancel 1 method?

and drop block?

[rough drift]

okay so

if method 1 cancels it

and method 2 uncancels it

the event will not be cancelled

if method 1 cancels it

and method 2 does some other stuff

the event will be cancelled and method 2 will still run

[upper hazel]

so that means the subsequent effect of the code can cancel the previous one, as I understand it

[rough drift]

it can't cancel code that's already run

i.e.

[lean pumice]

in legacy version wath is the oak planks?

[ivory sleet]

its like you put your stuffed teddy bear into the trash bin, then your mom comes and take it out from the trash bin which basically undoes whatever you did thus ur mom has a higher priority in what course of action was operated

[rough drift]

if you send a message in method1, method2 can't stop that

i.e. only reversible actions can be reversed

like setting a method as cancelled

[upper hazel]

I'm talking about those situations in which the effects of the 2 methods are not compatible

[rough drift]

give me an example

[upper hazel]

block.setType to air -> block.dropNaturally idk

[rough drift]

if the event has a clone of the block (usually a BlockState) then that won't matter

i.e. method2 will still be able to drop the BlockState, but the actual block will be AIR

[upper hazel]

oh ok

[icy beacon]

That is a very brutal comparison 😢

[tender shard]

is ItemMeta#getAsString() supposed to be valid SNBT?

[ivory sleet]

yea

i believe so

[tender shard]

hmmm

WTF

when was all of this added?!

I never knew bamboo planks were a thing?!

[river oracle]

1.20*

[worldly ingot]

It's SNBT, yes

You can pass it as an NBT suffix for items in a /give command

[quiet ice]

A while back

[young knoll]

Choco said he was going to use all his free time to give us an SNBT abstraction API

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017515898870956154.gif?size=48&name=pepe_laugh&quality=lossless

[quiet ice]

Using the hypickel money?

[river oracle]

@worldly ingot Thanks dude youre a savior!!!

[worldly ingot]

[river oracle]

I'm glad you have so much free time to work on spigot!!!

Where would we be without you

[undone moon]

Does this event exist? player receives message

[river oracle]

Maybe PlayerAsyncChatEvent

[worldly ingot]

Yeah that's just the chat event. You can check the recipients list

[river oracle]

Or actually maybe could use CommandPreProcessEvent

[undone moon]

how to use

[river oracle]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[worldly ingot]

Well, what do you mean with "receives message"

What kind of message? A private message via /w? Or a chat message?

[river oracle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/AsyncPlayerChatEvent.html

[young knoll]

Does this mean I have to do the SNBT abstraction API

[ivory sleet]

yes

:D

[tender shard]

thx, yeah I thought it was bugged because somehow it weirdly escaped the item name with additional quotes but turned out it was just me printing it wrong kek

[shadow night]

can I somehow keep comments and javadoc when I compile my jar so whenever I lose the source I still understand wtf is going on

or even better, put the sources into the same jar

[worldly ingot]

No, both get stripped at compile time because they're not necessary in bytecode

You can compile a sources and javadocs jar, though I don't imagine the latter will be particularly useful

[shadow night]

I constantly lose the source code of some small plugins I make and then when I need to change a little thing I gotta decompile

[worldly ingot]

👀 git, my friend

Even if it's a small plugin, a private repo would be fine

[shadow night]

hmm

right

but I'm so lazy lol

[tender shard]

it takes like 30 seconds to upload it to github 🥲

[shadow night]

but I gotta make a repo and shit

and then I'll have to commit constantly

[worldly ingot]

I mean your alternative is to compile and save a sources jar each time you make a change as well

Arguably more annoying

[shadow night]

oh I know

I'll write a gradle script that'll just put my source code into the jar lol

jk

I'll go with github

[quaint mantle]

Particles are thread safe right

[rough drift]

yes

[river oracle]

Very thread safe incredibly thread safe it's so thread safe you'll go oh wow now thats thread safe!

[umbral ridge]

what is that

cant run my local server

I built the latest jar with buildtools

[young knoll]

What is the jar size

Seems some things are missing

[chrome beacon]

also which jar did you use from BuildTools

[river oracle]

You should just use the jar it puts in the directory you ran bt in

[umbral ridge]

the jar from \Spigot\Spigot-Server\target

spigot-1.20.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT

it's about 17 MB

also what is original-spigot

[shadow night]

A good spigot jar is 50-60mb

[wet breach]

bootstrap jar is the one you want

?bootstrap

[undone axle]

Bootstrap Jar
The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or the entire contents of the bundler directory from your server, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.

Please read the release notes for further information: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/9-years-of-spigotmc-spigot-bungeecord-1-18-1-18-1-release.534760/#post-4305163

[chrome beacon]

no ._.

Use the one generated in the folder where BuildTools was ran

[ivory sleet]

@inner mulch

[chrome beacon]

don't open any of the sub folders

[wet breach]

which is the bootstrap jar

[umbral ridge]

what are jar files in folders then?

what are they for

there's like 4 or 5

[chrome beacon]

Those are jars from different steps of the build process

[umbral ridge]

ah

[wet breach]

spigot first applies patches to bukkit and craftbukkit, and then builds those. It then clones those repos and turns them into spigot-server and spigot-api. does more patching, then builds them. Here is where the final jar is produced, it is then copied to the root directory and renamed.

so you can if you wanted pull the jar from the build directory that is the right one and use that

[umbral ridge]

thanks frostalf

[quaint mantle]

Rly?

[river oracle]

idk probably they just send a packet

you can send packets asynchronously

[quaint mantle]

Nah just wondering if that will be my reaction

[river oracle]

oh yeah it will be

you'll be wowed

[tardy delta]

whats going on in call btw?

didnt even know this server had voice channels

[quiet ice]

oh, the voice channels are frequently used. I never looked into them so I cannot tell what is going on

[icy beacon]

What do we call a spigot developer gathering

Like, a bunch of crows is called a murder for exapmle

[tender shard]

different people all dealing with a spigot? A plumbing company I'd say

[icy beacon]

That's a good one

[tender shard]

I'm praying that this is working - multi-word arguments

[tardy delta]

looks like some live coding

[ivory sleet]

Yea usually live coding/coaching

[young knoll]

Nerd Herd

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-herd-gif-16971379493438179927

[tardy delta]

do something crazy and start streaming kotlin

[young knoll]

Insane

[eternal night]

suicidal to some degree

[proud badge]

YES they updated holographicdisplays to 1.20.4, I dont have to recode any of my plugins which use its api

[ivory sleet]

Can you PR it?

A fix

To it

[young knoll]

A fix to you being nerds?

[ivory sleet]

yeaa

Repair us coll

we need it

[young knoll]

🤔

[ivory sleet]

[tender shard]

look at my fancy /tp command

class BasicsTpModule(context: ModuleInstantiationContext) : AbstractBasicsModule(context) {
    private val permission = permissionManager.createSimplePermission("basics.tp", "Allows teleporting")
    override fun onEnable() {
        commandFactory.parsedCommandBuilder("tp", permission).mapContext {
            usage = "<x y z>"
            path {
                playerOnly()
                arguments {
                    named("coords", XYZCoordsArg("Target Coordinates"))
                }
            }
            executor(TeleportCommand(this@BasicsTpModule))
        }.register()
    }
}

class TeleportCommand(module: BasicsTpModule) : CommandContextExecutor<MapContext> {
    override fun execute(sender: CommandSender, context: MapContext) {
        val player = context.getOrDefault("player", sender) as Player
        val coords = context["coords"] as XYZCoords
        val location = coords.toLocation(player.world)
        player.teleport(location)
    }
}

[solemn meteor]

Is there a way to differentiate between a code made inventory and a renamed chest? Itll be thru an event as well, is there a smart way of doing it

[young knoll]

?gui

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[eternal night]

usually to i-

lets see

[solemn meteor]

yep

[eternal night]

good smile post

[solemn meteor]

Ill report back if I'm dumb as fuck and can't fix it

[ivory sleet]

inventory holders!?

[eternal night]

no xD

[slender elbow]

||not on spigot||

[eternal night]

[ivory sleet]

[dry hazel]

💥

[quaint mantle]

is there any way to teleport vehicle without unseating the player?

oh i could just tp the player

[tardy delta]

the nesting already scares me

[tender shard]

parsedCommandBuilder returns a ParsedCommandBuilderFactory
mapContext returns a MapContextParsedCommandBuilder
path is a MapArgumentPathBuilder
arguments is an ArgumentBuilder
🥲

[tardy delta]

ah makes sense

would you mind if i do some cleanup on the basics repo?

[tender shard]

go ahead

[floral drum]

I don't like kotlin :(

if basics wasn't kotlin I'd contribute >:)

[tender shard]

you can write modules in java

run gradlew createModule, then enter java, then the module-name, and then you have a template for java

[floral drum]

oh sick okay

I would have thought it would be weird to have both kotlin and java in the basics thing

[tender shard]

I'm not sure how well the kotlin-java interop works though, e.g. registering commands using the ParsedCommandBuilder will probably be a bit nasty lol. But unparsed commands should definitely work fine

[floral drum]

ah right

[tardy delta]

praise alex for writing the kotlin code java compatible

[tender shard]

https://hub.jeff-media.com/javadocs/basics-core/javadoc/ I mean most things should be fine - but some functions expect a KFunction1 as argument or return Unit etc - although even those should work from java I guess

[floral drum]

didn't you used to be pink

[tardy delta]

no

oh god

[floral drum]

wtf

[remote swallow]

alex

[ivory sleet]

who wrote that?

[remote swallow]

what the fruck

[remote swallow]

alex

blames on top

[ivory sleet]

alex

git blame on u