once downloaded, in your local .m2
#help-development
river oracle
command api is dumb idea xD
Nah it's not
eternal night
rip
river oracle
It's another 10,000 iq idea
eternal night
for sure
it certainly won't be outdated and replaced by thirdparty ones in a matter of months
river oracle
Spigot needs brig colors absolutely required so I'm going to sell my soul
slate mortar
at least this does not look like there are any sources
and it seems to actually search for those too
river oracle
it certainly won't be outdated and replaced by thirdparty ones in a matter of mo...
Not like redoing what we have IMHO it's perfectly fine but could use some improvements e.g. still no brig support to be found it's mostly that and if I find anything else
eternal night
yea but "no brig support" isn't just shat in
you can't just shit in brig into the existing API lol
river oracle
yea but "no brig support" isn't just shat in
True it'll be hard but I'm going to go for it anyways
eternal night
good luck 👍
I guess that is my queue to go back to work on paper, gotta hardfork before that mess ever makes it into spigot 
river oracle
Mainly I need to aim high because this semester I have 5 hour gaps in between classes
On 2 days a week
And I can't go home
river oracle
I guess that is my queue to go back to work on paper, gotta hardfork before that...
Lynx is now deprecated
river oracle
Oh come on why no brig it'll be fun
It might take a few months to make nice though unlike inventory api this isn't something I can think up and make in a week
eternal night
Like, I am sure it is possible, what owen is doing for paper seems reasonable, but the PR is just, kinda unmergable
So like, you just end up wasting time for 0 gain beyond showing it is technically possible
river oracle
Like, I am sure it is possible, what owen is doing for paper seems reasonable, b...
Well I think the main issue is the opposition to breaking changed with brig has
eternal night
I mean a) yes, but b) maitaining a framework on the server api level just becomes annoying
you can just expose brig and dip, probably the most sensible thing to do
river oracle
you can just expose brig and dip, probably the most sensible thing to do
Well that is kinda the goal the API is already public no? What'd be wrong with exposing it some
river oracle
Granted you have the drawbacks of using a third party library though
eternal night
a lot of work
but doable
but you said command API prior
which is completely different from just exposing brig
river oracle
Alex told me about a legendary async tab completion too that exists I wanted to try out too
I mean considering chat is asynchronous tab completion not being is weird
eternal night
Well it isn't on the server side yea xD
river oracle
which is completely different from just exposing brig
Yes but command api sounds funnier
eternal night
¯_(ツ)_/¯
its a waste of time. md would be a mad man to take on the responsibility of maintaining a command framework on spigot that is more complex as the current implementation
river oracle
I'm all about the funnies and 0% about the naming practically have you seen my greatest achievement Pineapple???
eternal night
like, cloud has a full team of people. so does AFC
slate mortar
ha, got it working
river oracle
Yeah cloud is super nice no point in a server software doing that ahit
slate mortar
using bt with --generate-source and manually setting the src-folder in intellij to "$BuildTools/Spigot/" seems to have done it
dunno what other useless shit it also indiced now, but idc to be honest
river oracle
Anyways since school starts next week with the gaps and all I figured I should start stuff only issue is running BT on my laptop 😂
eternal night
best of luck 😅
slate mortar
seems to do exactly what i want now. thx
eternal night
nice 
eternal night
you should hear my macbook when it runs papers applyPatches
river oracle
<:OMEGALUL:634918149002756122> you should hear my macbook when it runs papers ap...
Dude I did it in class and some kid rolled his chair over by my desk and asked wtf you doing and I said compiling minecraft server software yk the standard thing that makes your laptop sound like this
eternal night
the shitty version of a kernel dev
river oracle
<:kekwhyper:674093681904713729> the shitty version of a kernel dev
I was in data structures those kids didn't know how to code for shit
They'd be impressed by PineappleChat smh
I'm going into classes related to my actual career now though ig that's loosely related but not directly
opal juniper
quaint mantle
seems to do exactly what i want now. thx
which theme is this
young knoll
There’s two types of people in programming classes
Those that have already been programming for 5 years
And those that barely know what a computer is
No in between
shadow night
Those that have already been programming for 5 years
Turns out I'm the first
chrome beacon
There’s two types of people in programming classes
Can confirm
wooden frost
What methods can be used to modify a mob's existing nbt data?
For instance if i want to modify a dropped_item entity's itemstack data, what can i do?
river oracle
No in between
fr there were some people who were in my entry level programming class who were actually already software engineers
their company was simply paying for their degree
young knoll
Sometimes you gotta have that degree
river oracle
Sometimes you gotta have that degree
one of the guys said I was better at coding than most of his co-workers I am now terrified to get a job
( i am not good at coding )
tender shard
Yes
tender shard
Cast it
wooden frost
Entity datatype
tender shard
Item item = (Item) entity;
wooden frost
What methods can be used to modify a mob's existing nbt data?
For instance if i ...
Still, apart from item, how do you modify a mob's nbt
young knoll
Via api methods
wooden frost
Via api methods
?
young knoll
All vanilla NBT values should be exposed via some sort of method
young knoll
See the javadoc classes for various entities to find the methods you need
boreal island
can i use it for fabric?
river oracle
no this isn't hte place to ask about fabric
also its spiget -> API For Spigot Resources, not spiget -> API for Fabric Resources
boreal island
ok thks
young knoll
Modrinth has a downloads api iirc
river oracle
ye i thinks so
inner mulch
hello, i got a bukkitrunnable and it is supposed to runtasklater, but in some cirumstances in need to run the task immediately, can i get the runtasklater task and run it immediately somehow?
river oracle
You'll have to save it in memory in that case
inner mulch
i alr saved those tasks in memory
but i dont see a run immediately method or something
do you know how i can run it?
river oracle
Pretty sure they have an exposed run method
If not either reflection or make a wrapper
Id suggest the latter but you do as you see fit
inner mulch
i dont think im capable of doing any of those two, is there are tutorial on these methods ?
river oracle
?jd-s
undone axleBOT
inner mulch
you sure this explains what a wrapper is?
river oracle
one second let me check source
hazy parrot
CraftTask Implements Runnable
river oracle
use reflection
hazy parrot
no need, just cast BukkitTask to CraftTask
river oracle
actually a cached MethodHandle right here
slender elbow
i mean, you could just cast to Runnable
hazy parrot
or runnable ^
river oracle
don't cast to CraftTask though
then you lose multi-version compat
casting to runnable blindly should be fine though
inner mulch
so cast to bukkitrunnable?
shadow night
CraftTask would mean specific version
valid burrow
does precommandprocces event.getcommand return the command with or without the /
river oracle
no cast to Runnable
inner mulch
okay
inner mulch
does precommandprocces event.getcommand return the command with or without the /
its returns the whole message with /
valid burrow
alright
rotund ravine
hello, i got a bukkitrunnable and it is supposed to runtasklater, but in some ci...
Just use BukkitRunnable#run
inner mulch
Just use BukkitRunnable#run
you cannot cast a bukkittask to bukkitrunnable
i tried that once but it doesnt work
rotund ravine
If u got code that needs to run instantly, do it properly, and then cancel the task.
inner mulch
i could do that, but only the task knows what should happen
and i do not
as there are different things that can happen
easiest solution is running the task immediately
shadow night
Make a method that does what the task does and call it from the task and whenever you need to run it now, maybe
Or am I misunderstanding the idea of this thingy
inner mulch
as i stated, only the task knows what's going the happen as the variables put in the task are never the same
and i dont know the variables
im putting player objects in the task and i dont know which player objects are in the task
shadow night
You could make a class that stores the variables instead of the task/runnable
inner mulch
i guess, but why shouldnt i just run the task?
shadow night
If you can't how do you want to?
shadow night
Hmmm
inner mulch
runnable.run();
tasks.remove(runnable);
shadow night
Crazy
inner mulch
i know
waxen plinth
I would make a task wrapper
well, wait
at what point do you know when the task needs to be run
if you know at point of scheduling whether it'll need to be run immediately or later, then I don't see the problem
if you need to schedule it and later potentially run it early, I would make a wrapper that schedules the task and stores it, with a runEarly() method orn something that cancels the task and runs it immediately instead
you could store the actual thing to be executed as a Runnable separately from the task
median trench
Hi there, was wondering, do you have any special method for testing plugins that need more than one player? I've been using a cracked client as a secondary acc for a while, but there might be a better way
Also, I remember that forge repo allows gradle runClient (I think) that opened a client with an offline account to test mods and that's quite useful imo, so is there any standalone repo or a way to do that from the terminal? (I searched on google and find quite old threads, +9 years)
shadow lava
Hello everyone! I have a question regarding Bukkit/Spigot 1.20.2. I'm working with ProtocolLib, canceling/sending some packets with delays. I'm encountering a peculiar issue: upon the FIRST LOGIN of player X after a server restart, all of their tools have the breaking speed equivalent to a bare hand (as if the tools don't exist). However, upon relogging (regardless of how many times), the breaking speed becomes normal for the same player X. The server has no plugins except mine, and it uses the Purpur core. After a server restart, all players experience the tools having zero breaking speed until they relog.
Is there a specific network packet responsible for breaking speed, or how can this be explained? Which direction should I investigate?
P.S.: Sorry for my English.
median trench
Use something like multimc to launch offline accounts
Lmao I didn't know it could create offline accounts and didn't use it before hahah thankyouuu
tender shard
<:OMEGALUL:634918149002756122> you should hear my macbook when it runs papers ap...
everyone who talks about "optimizing" here all the time should just be more like kotlins compiler lol
"yo bro I dont think its worth it"
valid burrow
xd
someone should make a language pack
that
changes the messages to something like that
"man you forgot a simicolon again its like the 100th time today"
"switches are a thing yk?"
"this is stupid try this instead"
molten hearth
"yo bro I dont think its worth it"
that's how I see optimisations 99.9% of the time
unnecessary complexity for little achieved
eternal night
I mean, always depends how hot the path is your are optimizing
given I doubt noInit is called like, every other millisecond, its w/e
molten hearth
If it doesn't cause performance issues I don't optimise it
eternal night
Well, depends on the project I guess.
hybrid spoke
someone should make a language pack
rather add one to the mario theme
eternal night
if you are writing a plugin that is a somewhat terrible attitude
hybrid spoke
"mamamia, what happened here?"
eternal night
obviously there is a point where it is overoptimization, for sure
hybrid spoke
bowser laugh on build failure
eternal night
but like, coding with speed in mind in a modular landscape where your module will have to share cpu time with 20 other modules is not a dumb idea
molten hearth
the other modules better have my same mindset 💯
eternal night
Yea exactly
shadow night
The only reason to overoptimize is when you are bored and finished your project already
Then you just completely rewrite the whole thing to run 20 times faster and look 70 times cleaner than before
molten hearth
I mean looking cleaner is debatable
I often end up having to use new caches in places that kind of annoy me because I find it to look much worse than a simple getter call
shadow lava
Does it occur on spigot
Alright, I downloaded the latest build of Spigot-1.20.2, set up a local server with it, and my plugin. Everything is the same; upon the initial login, the tools break at the speed of a bare hand, but upon relogging, everything works fine. What versions are available?
molten hearth
But true if it was fundamentally bad code in the first place then sometimes optimisation helps cleaning it up
young knoll
Alright, I downloaded the latest build of Spigot-1.20.2, set up a local server w...
What versions of what are available?
tender shard
unnecessary complexity for little achieved
yeah
"if i use for. will it lag my server???"
shadow lava
What versions of what are available?
Versions of the source of the problem of course... Maybe there is some network packet that can be forcibly sent through ProtocolLib to "update" the digging speed?
mellow edge
does anyone by chance know which packet needs to be sent (with nms) for player unwearing armour, otherwise I'll need to find it here: https://wiki.vg/Protocol
young knoll
Digging speed is controlled by the item and the players attributes
So whatever packets are sent corresponding to those
chrome beacon
Break speeds are hardcoded
mellow edge
Don’t we have an api to fake armor changes
that is exactly what I am trying to do
chrome beacon
The only thing I can think of here is item tags being removed from some reason
young knoll
My brain was thinking attack speed
Yeah breaking speed is controlled by the item and the block tags
torn shuttle
My brain was thinking attack speed
this reminds me of the "doctor I broke my entire body" joke
young knoll
that is exactly what I am trying to do
mellow edge
this is not possible for me because I need to code a plugin for 1.8
oh wait but I can still do it how it is done in CraftBukkit's code
molten hearth
yeah
"if i use for. will it lag my server???"
pov: it's a simple for loop that iterates 30 times
tender shard
oh wait but I can still do it how it is done in CraftBukkit's code
it just sends a ClientboundSetEquipmentPacket for the given slots
tender shard
pov: it's a simple for loop that iterates 30 times
yeah and in the next line they check for updates on the main thread but they're more worried about the simple for loop
mellow edge
it just sends a ClientboundSetEquipmentPacket for the given slots
how is it called in older versions?
tender shard
Clientbound is Out, so I guess it's PacketPlayOutEquipment or PacketPlayOutEntityEquipment or PacketPlayOutSetEntityEquipment or sth like that
mellow edge
net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.Packet<net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.PacketListenerPlayOut
PacketPlayOutEntityEquipment
thanks btw, let me see if it works
shadow lava
Digging speed is controlled by the item and the players attributes
Can you be more specific about the names of the packets I need to send? Or maybe Bukkit/spigot APIs have ready-made methods to "force" server2client synchronization?
young knoll
I think a better question is what the heck are you doing to break it in the first place
shadow lava
Very briefly, I cancel the event of Server2Client sending all packets except these:
"SPAWN_POSITION",
"SET_SUBTITLE_TEXT",
"SET_TITLE_TEXT",
"CLEAR_TITLES",
"SET_TITLES_ANIMATION",
"SET_ACTION_BAR_TEXT",
"SYSTEM_CHAT",
"KICK_DISCONNECT",
"LOGIN"
And when canceling, I write them to LinkedList to send them in the same order a little later. I can't explain the main purpose of this case. But I have mentioned the main functionality
chrome beacon
Very briefly, I cancel the event of Server2Client sending all packets except the...
You need to sync item and block tags
Not sure why you're cancelling all the packets though 🤷♂️
shadow lava
Roughly speaking I make a plugin for authorization and try to buffer Server2Client packets to send them only after login. This hides unnecessary data about the player before he logs in
chrome beacon
Idk wiki.vg doesn't have the 1.20.2 protcol -_-
young knoll
wut
shadow lava
You need to sync item and block tags
Does the bukkit API support this? Or what packets need to be sent?
young knoll
Where is "version list"
young knoll
Oh version_numbers not protocol history
Wait 1.20.2 was the configuration phase
Wack I thought it was .3
But yeah don't cancel the config packets
young knoll
Sending them later wont work since they can't be sent outside the configuration phase
chrome beacon
is this legal
legal yes, will it work maybe not
shadow lava
Hmm, which packages are configuration packages? Uh, interesting.
chrome beacon
They should be clientbound
floral drum
comparing UUIDs with ==
rule :D - compare primitives with ==, compare objects with .equals
chrome beacon
so I'm guessing the same folder as the other clientbound packs
floral drum
that's how I go by it
remote swallow
rule :D - compare primitives with ==, compare objects with .equals
ill primitive you in a minute
floral drum
ill primitive you in a minute
wtf
proud badge
rule :D - compare primitives with ==, compare objects with .equals
ye ik, my friend made this code
chrome beacon
There are cases where you want to compare with ==
shadow lava
I mean how do you determine which package is "configuration" and which is not? Is there any information?
floral drum
There are cases where you want to compare with ==
enums :D
chrome beacon
You just have to be aware of what it does
proud badge
doesnt it compare their location in the ram
chrome beacon
I mean how do you determine which package is "configuration" and which is not? I...
You read the Minecraft code
That's how you work with NMS
shadow lava
Yes, I got myself the CraftBukkit sorts, however I haven't figured it out yet. I mainly write for 1.7.10 version, and in this version network is completely different. I can't get used to it yet
young knoll
6.1.1 Clientbound Plugin Message (configuration)
6.1.2 Disconnect (configuration)
6.1.3 Finish Configuration
6.1.4 Clientbound Keep Alive (configuration)
6.1.5 Ping (configuration)
6.1.6 Registry Data
6.1.7 Resource Pack (configuration)
6.1.8 Feature Flags
6.1.9 Update Tags
shadow lava
> 6.1.1 Clientbound Plugin Message (configuration)
> 6.1.2 Disconnect (configura...
Thank you very much, I'll try not to reject these packages now and see what happens 🙂
chrome beacon
How about just blocking the packets you want to block
instead of whitelisting packets
young knoll
Can't help but be curious why they are delaying packets
shadow lava
To prevent the server from sending unnecessary heavy packets when attacked by bots
floral drum
Yes, I got myself the CraftBukkit sorts, however I haven't figured it out yet. I...
1.7.10...
shadow lava
As well as hiding information about the player's location, inventory and more
shadow lava
On 1.7.10 I write in general mods, not plugins. However, it was necessary to temporarily switch to 1.20.2
rare rover
hmm, whats wrong with this?
it moves it but not interpolating it
just instantly gets moved
rare rover
ah let me try
been going off this: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-do-you-manipulate-display-entities.599735/
so
nah, still doesn't interpolate
shadow night
Is there some way to track when the server is done loading? Like, the moment the server sends the "Done!" message into the console
young knoll
been going off this: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-do-you-manipulate-disp...
did you recently spawn it?
rare rover
did you recently spawn it?
yeah, i just had to put a delay on it
quaint mantle
Hi , what is cheapest minecraft hosting ?
remote swallow
bloom are one of the cheapest i know of
rare rover
i mean i wouldn't say poor but its a good host for how cheap it is
remote swallow
support is pretty good, idk about availability
quaint mantle
i mean i wouldn't say poor but its a good host for how cheap it is
what ? 24$ with 8G ? isn't cheap !
remote swallow
thats performance plus
normal performance for 18 would suit most servers
you probably also wont find actually good hosting for cheaper than this
rare rover
shadow night
I'd guess you can play with 6gb ram with like 8 players, dunno about 8gb
quaint mantle
thats performance plus
not matter i need a potato server :/ ( just jokking)
rare rover
even performance+ is a good deal imo
quaint mantle
even performance+ is a good deal imo
potato performance is good for me :/
sterile token
Are you kidding with 20$, You can perfect pay a good vps machine on Contabo hosting
quaint mantle
$10/mo for 4gb
isn't cheap , because i have hostings with 4gb with 3$ but i am looking for cheaper hosting !
rare rover
isn't cheap , because i have hostings with 4gb with 3$ but i am looking for chea...
you ain't getting cheaper than that
remote swallow
^^
rare rover
people ain't selling 4gb servers for $0.50 per gb
remote swallow
if you need cheaper the next option is self hosting which in the long run would probably be more expensive
shadow night
people ain't selling 4gb servers for $0.50 per gb
I do know a hosting that gives you 6gb for 0.5$ lmao
quaint mantle
people ain't selling 4gb servers for $0.50 per gb
yeah , american and europian hostings isn't cheap :/
rare rover
I do know a hosting that gives you 6gb for 0.5$ lmao
their cpu is probably ass though
shadow night
I do know a hosting that gives you 6gb for 0.5$ lmao
But it's shared and it doesn't give anything above 6gb so
quaint mantle
yeah , american and europian hostings isn't cheap :/
because their datacenter is expensive
buoyant viper
i like how they list Aikars flags as a selling point
ivory sleet
Omid you cant take just raw numbers into consideration, things like location, availability, support and other things for instance the more exact hardware specifications matter also
sterile token
I do know a hosting that gives you 6gb for 0.5$ lmao
Lool, many plataforms as a service costs less than that
shadow night
their cpu is probably ass though
I've been running a little smp for my friends for a few months, runs fine
ivory sleet
i like how they list Aikars flags as a selling point
yeah pretty bs, not to mention they're sorta outdated
or well, they could be updated to match the current mc jvm resource consumption more sophisticatedly
remote swallow
new flags just dropped conclube optimization flags
ivory sleet
lol well I want to find some optimal ones w j24
sterile token
If You want to run a whole network, just buy a vps. It's cheaper than paying many hosts
ivory sleet
once that releases
remote swallow
yeah but who uses anything higher than 17
ivory sleet
21 virtual threads
enough of a reason to migrate
also gen zgc!
which is an interesting subimpl of zgc
remote swallow
does zgc even do much to spigot/mc
ivory sleet
unsure
zgc has been known for very volatile consumptions
but gen zgc aims to stabilize the consumption over time but regionalizing objects depending on their lifetime
remote swallow
sus
ivory sleet
yup
slender elbow
tbf g1gc is just fine for like 99+% of servers
ivory sleet
yea definitely
sterile token
Buy a vps!!
remote swallow
what about those really nerdy servers that have 2 terrabytes of ram and run folia
sterile token
You forget all problems
slender elbow
what about those really nerdy servers that have 2 terrabytes of ram and run foli...
gen shenandoah :p
buoyant viper
i had a lot of trouble finding a vps that felt like it had good price to perf so i just said fuck it n rent a dedi from ovh
(fckin american servers, why cant ANY of them be cheap enough)
tender shard
lmao on amazon, all the books about gradle are not part of kindle unlimited - except for this one lmao
the only one included in the subscription is ofc the 1 star bullshit book
i don't feel like spending 60€ on a book that will be outdated in 2 years agao
slender elbow
i generally don't like directing people to youtube videos but this is genuinely good
shadow lava
I can't find the network packet name for Feature Flags and Update Tags in ProtocolLib
🤔
steady pelican
lmao on amazon, all the books about gradle are not part of kindle unlimited - ex...
this already seems outdated 😭
tender shard
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQK2ZdV4Yl2k2OmC_gsjDpdIBTN0qqkE is pret...
thanks but I really hate watching videos 🥲 people always be talking and talking and ugh why don't they just write down the information
steady pelican
thanks but I really hate watching videos 🥲 people always be talking and talking...
let's do A POWERPOINT
tender shard
ha kotlin! you promised to not need semicolons but why do you require the commas here? aren't they pointless?
sterile token
i had a lot of trouble finding a vps that felt like it had good price to perf so...
Hii, i buy machines at reliablesite or contabo. Atleast in contabo prices are really good and has too decent machines
chrome beacon
contabo is bad though
sterile token
16gb of ram around 10$ per month in Contabo
chrome beacon
Ram isn't everything
orchid trout
hetzrnwr
steady pelican
maybe check on hetzner in finland, they are cheap for dedicated servers
chrome beacon
You can have plenty of ram and a potato cpu
steady pelican
for dedicated servers, not vps
sterile token
contabo is bad though
i mean you will host minecraft server, not a whole buisness
orchid trout
hetzner
dry hazel
ha kotlin! you promised to not need semicolons but why do you require the commas...
you're essentially making a primary constructor, which can be collapsed to a single line, so need some delimiters
chrome beacon
i mean you will host minecraft server, not a whole buisness
Better off using a Minecraft host like Bloom then
tender shard
you're essentially making a primary constructor, which can be collapsed to a sin...
but it is not collapsed
river oracle
ha kotlin! you promised to not need semicolons but why do you require the commas...
cuz its basically a constructor no?
steady pelican
isnt that host for dedicated servers?
they do cloud
buoyant viper
ha kotlin! you promised to not need semicolons but why do you require the commas...
wouldnt u need... commas
river oracle
you'd have to have a pretty smart tokenizer to determine whether or not your tokens are collapsed or not its easier probably to just force a syntax
tender shard
you're essentially making a primary constructor, which can be collapsed to a sin...
that's like saying that semicolons shuold be needed in the left pic because I could have written it like in the right pic 😄
tender shard
I switched from Contabo to Hetzner
good choice
river oracle
that's like saying that semicolons shuold be needed in the left pic because I co...
well dif thing to the tokenizer I assume ( requires some form of , or -> and { doesn't
tender shard
yeah but why
buoyant viper
hetzner doesnt exactly have american servers tho now do they
buoyant viper
basically yeah
river oracle
yeah but why
mmm well I'd assume ( is considered to be a constrcutor in pretty much every form so you need to know when params start and end
buoyant viper
or dedis
chrome beacon
hetzner doesnt exactly have american servers tho now do they
Could always go for a US vps
tender shard
mmm well I'd assume `(` is considered to be a constrcutor in pretty much every f...
yeah but they could also just use a newline there like they do for everywhereelse. guess they were just lazy
river oracle
yeah but they could also just use a newline there like they do for everywhereels...
from a lexing standpoint just saying yeah ( denotes constructor start, but probs didn't care to go further than that
buoyant viper
Could always go for a US vps
already looking at $6 for 2c/(hopefully?)4tr with 2GB of ram :(
tender shard
hetzner doesnt exactly have american servers tho now do they
they only got x86 VPS in the US (hillboro, or and ashburn, va)
buoyant viper
i mean idc if its x86_64 or ARM tbh
ARM is nice but ive only used it on oracle so far lol
tender shard
already looking at $6 for 2c/(hopefully?)4tr with 2GB of ram :(
2 cores, 2gb ram, 40gb ssd for 4.58€ at hetzner
but 2 cores = 2 threads
tender shard
just get the CCX63. it got 48 cores and only costs 342€ lol
sterile token
ah, no hyperthreads
so what you tyring to host? You are over engineering too much haha
dry hazel
that's like saying that semicolons shuold be needed in the left pic because I co...
what I said is that constructors are specified to always have parameter delimiters and a data class's properties are a primary constructor - as to why, that's jetbrains's design choice, imo it's better with commas
sterile token
lmao, in my case I paid a thousand euros for 2 impeccable servers with 128gb ddr3, dual xeon 16 cores and 2tb sdd on each machine. I paid them so cheap because they were auctioned from a company that went bankrupt and they had to auction everything so they wouldn't be seized
fallow gyro
I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to read the text on a sign post-double-sided signs.
A lot of online resources only show how to do this for single-sided signs, and looking at the spigot docs, it seems that a lot of these old methods have since been depreciated.
What I would like to do:
When an on player interact event is fired, get the sign they clicked, and read the lines from the side of the sign they clicked on. I would also like to be able to cancel the sign edit event so that the player is not able to edit the sign, even if it isn't waxed.
Would someone be able to show me how this is done?
Thanks!
buoyant viper
so what you tyring to host? You are over engineering too much haha
maybe a minecraft server or two + extra stuff
fallow gyro
<https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/block/Sign.html#getSide(org...
Thanks for this. I don't suppose you'd know how the get the sign side from a player right click event? Is there a way to cast a BlockFace to a Side? Thanks.
sterile token
maybe a minecraft server or two + extra stuff
with extra stuff, you should mean databases and website and/or discord bot hosting. Right?
buoyant viper
yeah
sterile token
okay, so yeah. I would recommend a vps in that case because you can have all together and pay what you really need
Let say you can be really good with a 16gb vps
tender shard
I have setup a versioncatalog in settins.gradle.kts called "libs", which I can access just fine in all my build.gradle.kts files, except inside buildSrc - is there anything special about buildSrc? What can I do to be able to access it there too?
buoyant viper
Let say you can be really good with a 16gb vps
maybe ill give contabo another look, bc for most places i checked (vultr, ovh, hetzner, etc), my ovh dedi has better pricing
sterile token
or at least it was 2 years ago when I tried them out
atleast for mc hosting most say they are pretty stabl. Ofc they not designed for buinesses usage there yeah move outside
sterile token
does anyone here have a contabo server? if so you could they please run yabs.sh ...
what does that? I can run it and send it here
tender shard
it's a benchmark, you can just run it without installing anything: curl -sL yabs.sh | bash https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script
sterile token
not found mfalex, its it correct?
sterile token
curl is installed
tender shard
what does it not find then?
pearl ice
don't copy paste the link
tender shard
whut
pearl ice
only the curl -sL yabs.sh | bash part
steady pelican
💀
steady pelican
i'm checking my vps lol (not on contabo but for fun)
sterile token
test is running, once is done ill let you know here
sorry for copy-pasting what ever
tender shard
thx! It'll take like 10 minutes or so
and then it gives you a link with the results
sterile token
and then it gives you a link with the results
oh pretty cool, i didnt know that give you link
tender shard
huuuh I thought hetzenr only gives you 1gbit/s?
steady pelican
on my end, it's running
young knoll
Thanks for this. I don't suppose you'd know how the get the sign side from a pla...
You'd have to make use of the clicked face in the event combined with the BlockData of the sign
steady pelican
huuuh I thought hetzenr only gives you 1gbit/s?
how the fuck are you getting 6.66 GBIT/S ? 💀
that is in send speed, right ?
so i'm getting fucked in IPv4, let's go
on one hand, i'm getting 32 ms, and on the other end 1 ms
dry hazel
I have setup a versioncatalog in settins.gradle.kts called "libs", which I can a...
explicitly define the version catalog for buildSrc (in buildSrc/settings.gradle.kts) and declare a dependency on the accessor class in buildSrc's buildscript: (implementation(files(libs::class.java.superclass.protectionDomain.codeSource.location)))
then you can just get it in a convention plugin with val libs = the<org.gradle.accessors.dm.LibrariesForLibs>()
chrome beacon
huuuh I thought hetzenr only gives you 1gbit/s?
They probably guarantee 1gb/s
Unused capacity is wasted 
tender shard
explicitly define the version catalog for buildSrc (in buildSrc/settings.gradle....
hmmm I'll try that
umbral ridge
umbral ridge
I have setup a versioncatalog in settins.gradle.kts called "libs", which I can a...
today is friday and you asked a question
what happened to wednesday only
tender shard
I must have forgotten which day it is today
umbral ridge
lol
tender shard
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4464005
oh yeah that's only the cpu benchmark. the file stuff is just in the text output on console
sterile token
I must have forgotten which day it is today
oh okay
Just would complain about the location them the benchmarks are okay
Because the location fucks you with the ping
tender shard
weird, your 4k IO is extremely slow but 512k and 1m are super fast lol.
Here's mine:
- Hetzner Dedicated AX41: https://paste.md-5.net/ogozofareh.rb
- Tiny home server: https://paste.md-5.net/supudaloma.rb
- Hetzner Cloud CX11: https://paste.md-5.net/godotowona.rb
sterile token
weird, your 4k IO is extremely slow but 512k and 1m are super fast lol.
Here's ...
yeah, thats really weird. Was firs tthing i realized
mfalex may i ask you about your opinion with the cpu Xeon E5-2697A v4. Its the cpu that contains the servers i bought in the auction
tender shard
i dont know anything about hardware
sterile token
i dont know anything about hardware
oh okay, right. Thanks tho
upper hazel
the recipe in the code is correct but different in the game
tender shard
what?
dry hazel
mfalex may i ask you about your opinion with the cpu Xeon E5-2697A v4. Its the c...
it's pretty bad for minecraft
not a high core clock, loads of cores, old (broadwell)
umbral ridge
Xeon E5-2697A can still be good
since it's worth around $3000, the processor itself
and xeon series are specifically made for servers
if it wasn't good, companies wouldnt make servers with it
dry hazel
since it's worth around $3000, the processor itself
that's merely a reference price, it probably goes for hundreds of bucks on ebay or such
dry hazel
xeons are expensive
not really, it's from 2016
dry hazel
if it wasn't good, companies wouldnt make servers with it
if it's from hetzner's auction, they are just old servers
umbral ridge
companies still use xeons for minecraft even in 2024
not sure if its bad or good but i guess if they use it it must be good
dry hazel
not really, it's from 2016
the E5-2697A v4 goes for not even a hundred bucks on ebay lol
dry hazel
not sure if its bad or good but i guess if they use it it must be good
or they're just running old hardware
tranquil jacinth
soing this in a ubuntu termal, and i cant figure out how to make the start script
also using screen
sterile token
also using screen
could you please provide everything you are using
And also this should be on #help-server if im not wrong
Lets move there and i can give u a hand
tranquil jacinth
oh sorry
wet breach
not sure if its bad or good but i guess if they use it it must be good
old hardware doesn't mean it doesn't perform
its not like they stopped working
sterile token
old hardware doesn't mean it doesn't perform
yeah, there you are totally right. Because threadreapper cpus have been used for many years for hostings when know "Epyc cpus replaces them" - This talking from amd side
echo basalt
we talking bout contabo ye?
wet breach
other then core count which isn't a major factor really, the only real difference between old server cpu's and modern ones is mostly going to be instruction sets
its not like a 4ghz cpu that is dubbed outdated is slower then a 4ghz cpu today. They both run at the same speed and adding cores doesn't add cumulatively the processing speed
what those cores allow you to do is run more things at once, not that they are somehow faster 😛
wet breach
we talking bout contabo ye?
this is like one of the worst hosting providers I know of
would never recommend them to anyone
echo basalt
yeah they sucky suck
tender shard
when you want it to compile but are too lazy to implement that class
sterile token
we talking bout contabo ye?
yeh
sterile token
would never recommend them to anyone
i know, but about prices is decent
In my case i prefer reliable but they dont sell vps, jusrt dedicated servers
wet breach
they are not reliable
far from it
if you want to use them go for it, its your experience and or money
sterile token
they are not reliable
reliable site, is a dedicated machines host - hhaaha
sterile token
should I go visit
oh amazing, i havent seen a circus since i was 10y, around 8y without seeing one
sterile token
it's late as shit tho
whats time? Isnt it around 8 pm
wet breach
hmmm
how are your circuses?
probably better then the ones we have in the US these days
echo basalt
like 8 trucks pulling up to an empty dirt lot
setting up a couple tents
seats are 15 bucks
sterile token
how are your circuses?
big tents with chairs on it and none animals. They just do weird things, real circuses where the ones which used to came with animals
echo basalt
if you just want to stand and watch it's like 12
I saw a weird circus video up north where they used animatronics n shit
wet breach
big tents with chairs on it and none animals. They just do weird things, real ci...
this seems boring
do they at least have clowns?
sterile token
do they at least have clowns?
yes, atleast haha
but i wouldnt go to anyone anymore haha
last one was like 7y and it was liked i described
echo basalt
there was cirque du soleil like 2 hours away during new years
sterile token
the most interesting was the globe where motorbikes run inside. Then borring and borring
wet breach
seats were like 50 bucks
it better be a hell of a circus if I was going to pay this much to go to a circus
otherwise I will just go visit six flags
echo basalt
it's like the top one in the world
company was valued at a billion a solid decade ago
they use their own proprietary acrobatics stuff
was a crazy production
there were like 3 employees that died tho
wet breach
there were like 3 employees that died tho
acceptable
echo basalt
in the span of 30+ years it's acceptable
wet breach
even if it wasn't, that line of work you can't expect someone to not get hurt at some point
echo basalt
yeah
one was an acrobat that slipped
another was some kind of winch that slipped or dettached
wet breach
makes sense on the winch part
them cables and hooks fly pretty fast when they detach XD
echo basalt
all the deaths were pretty much blunt force trauma
echo basalt
them cables and hooks fly pretty fast when they detach XD
think the cable slipped from the pulley or sumn idk
but no spectator managed to see the person die
lady just slipped and hit the floor hard
orchid gazelle
Just would complain about the location them the benchmarks are okay
I made bad experiences with Contabo
echo basalt
contabo has lots of ram to account for the shitty cpu perf
orchid gazelle
They seem to be extremely shared and very low end hardware
That's why they are cheap as fuck
echo basalt
it's like "no other vps provider offers 60gb ram for like 30 bucks a month" and you realize they just have these shitty 4th gen cpus with like 2tb ram crammed in
sterile token
yeah thats why they cheap, they are VPs, not dedicated servers
echo basalt
shared between 19 ppl
orchid gazelle
yeah thats why they cheap, they are VPs, not dedicated servers
This is not the reason
echo basalt
damn I'm starting to regret having ordered food
sterile token
if you wanna fully perfomance buy OVH rise tier and then you forget about everything
echo basalt
was looking really fit at the gym today 
gonna guilt myself for eating like shit all night
orchid gazelle
Virtualization is not the issue. The issue is 20000 people using the same cpu core bc it is allocated as shit and very bad hardware
sterile token
Something clown, but is google free tier better than Contabo? 🤔
orchid gazelle
A good KVM root has like a performance diff of 5% to dedicated max
sterile token
A good KVM root has like a performance diff of 5% to dedicated max
you know about hardware? In how much would you evaluate a machine wtih this things
orchid gazelle
Uhh yes
orchid gazelle
you know about hardware? In how much would you evaluate a machine wtih this thin...
With the things a full contabo dedi has?
2TB of like what, 2100Mhz RAM? 4th gen intel xeon cpu's? Lmao
I mostly know about consumer hardware tho, not that much about Enterprise
echo basalt
actually 4th gen xeon is 2023 stuff
sterile token
With the things a full contabo dedi has?
no no, i mean i bought 2 servers really chap for 500 usd each one in an auction it was like winning or shooting. But i offered without scaring and i winned because they had just some rams modules brokened and no 9 volts battery.
Each machine has a double Xeon E5-2697A, 128gb ddr3 2666Mhz and 2tb sdd
echo basalt
orchid gazelle
You gotta notice that Intel Xeon CPUs are a catastroph for things like mc servers
sterile token
You gotta notice that Intel Xeon CPUs are a catastroph for things like mc server...
answering to?
orchid gazelle
General
sterile token
oh okay, have you read my message on top? Not wondering be rude, just know how good the machines i have are
echo basalt
but you can't extract as much as you can from like a 5950x
sterile token
I've run servers out of 2288g's
2tb of ram right? or i get losted
orchid gazelle
no no, i mean i bought 2 servers really chap for 500 usd each one in an auction ...
Always depends on usecase
sterile token
Always depends on usecase
in general, just with the idea i bought them in an auction and they dont have any issue
orchid gazelle
but you can't extract as much as you can from like a 5950x
any server cpu that is not latest gen is not qualified to run a medium-scaled mc server
orchid gazelle
in general, just with the idea i bought them in an auction and they dont have an...
250€ per machine of that is kinda good
sterile token
250€ per machine of that is kinda good
500$ each machine i paid, in total 1k dollar
orchid gazelle
I guess it's alright
echo basalt
any server cpu that is not latest gen is not qualified to run a medium-scaled mc...
ryzen 5000 is last gen
technically 2 gens old now
orchid gazelle
Could have gotten better hardware tbh for that money tho
sterile token
oh right, because i seem worst machines than mines and they ask more than 1800k dollars and being really generous ofc
sterile token
Server series of amd are Threadreapper and EPYC
echo basalt
threadripper is pro-sumer
orchid gazelle
latest gen epyc cpus are great in my eyes
sterile token
threadripper is pro-sumer
what means that? sorry im too dumb
echo basalt
iirc it's just a ryzen cpu but with like 10x the cores
and less single-core performance because power limits
orchid gazelle
Im about to order a KVM root with no oversharing, 48GB of DDR4 mem and Turboed Epyc 7543p cpus like 12 cores
For 25€
echo basalt
what means that? sorry im too dumb
between a "professional" user and a consumer
sterile token
Im about to order a KVM root with no oversharing, 48GB of DDR4 mem and Turboed E...
25 each month?
orchid gazelle
Ye
sterile token
lmaoo, where
orchid gazelle
Mchost
echo basalt
For example if you're compiling linux or android often you'd want to get a pc with the latest threadripper and like 1tb of ram
sterile token
can you link it please i cant find it
echo basalt
and shell out 20k
orchid gazelle
Just google mchost
echo basalt
as long as you make mad money
sterile token
Just google mchost
doesnt appear im from uruguay, lot of outside things are not well indexed
echo basalt
wish I was in uruguay rn
orchid gazelle
echo basalt
got a cute chick across the border
sterile token
https://mc-host24.de/
oh thanks, it isnt even indexed. i will put up the vpn on washinton and give a look into it
sterile token
dedicated servers right? or just vps
sterile token
spanish i dont have that knownledge haha
just know vps and dedicated servers
is that something like Kubernates?
sterile token
Dedis are shared but not overshared
i mean dedicated servers are not shared machines. Its like if you buy a server and installs it at home. You are just alone in it buts instead of you having at home, its in a data center 🤔
orchid gazelle
Yes I know
I meant "their dedis are shared but not overshared"
Well at least they promised me after I asked them lol
wet breach
Virtualization is not the issue. The issue is 20000 people using the same cpu co...
it can be depending how it is setup
sterile token
Well at least they promised me after I asked them lol
companies just lie, better option is own setup
no one fucks you
orchid gazelle
companies just lie, better option is own setup
well then I can sue them lmao
orchid gazelle
it can be depending how it is setup
well that's how contabo keeps their prices near zero
wet breach
in an ideal setting, you would use a bare metal virtualization setup and allocation VM's appropriately in regards to the hardware it has available
orchid gazelle
lol
wet breach
however, if you don't use a bare metal virtualization setup, already that is a performance hit
orchid gazelle
in an ideal setting, you would use a bare metal virtualization setup and allocat...
yes exactly, that is how mchost explained it ot me. They do not allocate more cores to users than they have on a machine
wet breach
and then if you over allocate resources to the extreme like they do, then most definitely
orchid gazelle
however, if you don't use a bare metal virtualization setup, already that is a p...
proxmox on bare-metal is good
with KVM ofc
ofc dedicated is better, but is it worth the 200% price uplift?
for me, the answer is no
wet breach
ofc dedicated is better, but is it worth the 200% price uplift?
depends on your needs really. Because I like to have my own stuff and prefer to use my own configurations, absolutely
for those that are starting out and have really no experience at all, most likely not
sterile token
But i will tell you something crappy from uruguay, since here internet security doesnt exists. Just starting from that our internet fiber optic connection is part of just one company provider. Meaning that if you want fiber optic internet must use that provider and then on top of it put your ISP (in case you want one).
Along that, our network is like a fucking locahost with a simple scanning of their ISP you can fully get all the ips of each router and so them, each device address. Something extra, the modems they give you dont have admin user they dont exists on them. So then, you cant open ports meaning you cant have servers at home.
orchid gazelle
depends on your needs really. Because I like to have my own stuff and prefer to ...
yeah sure, that's why I said "for me, the answer is no"
I would also prefer my own configs and so on, but the price uplift is not worth for me
wet breach
But i will tell you something crappy from uruguay, since here internet security ...
the modems not having a hardware firewall doesn't mean you can't open ports. The setup you are describing sounds more like a shared ip setup where it would be impossible anyways to allow people to arbitrarily open ports
wet breach
yes exactly, that is how mchost explained it ot me. They do not allocate more co...
my only issue with mchost in why I couldn't recommend them is they do not allow you full control over the VM
orchid gazelle
my only issue with mchost in why I couldn't recommend them is they do not allow ...
oh do you have experience with using them?
sterile token
be glad that you guys have fiber optic at all
And something extra, until a while ago it was a monopoly. No one else had the right to bring internet through fibre optics other than that company. Now, anyone can do it, but as we are 3.5 million inhabitants, who is going to invest millions of dollars in bringing a different and independent fibre optic provider. As simple as basic mathematics, you don't get your investment back at any time and it's not profitable either.
wet breach
oh do you have experience with using them?
Yes, they have this web panel and they charge on the basis of ram which is quite dumb if you were to compare them to an actual VPS provider
orchid gazelle
Yes, they have this web panel and they charge on the basis of ram which is quite...
the web panel is completely optional
you can just not use it
wet breach
Well, I don't remember them allowing you full control of the VM
they could have changed since I last reviewed them
orchid gazelle
Well, I don't remember them allowing you full control of the VM
you just get normal root access
you can even go into the bootloader
wet breach
well bootloader is pointless on a VM anyways
not like you are going to be able to do much there
orchid gazelle
you could just flash your own ISO on it that way
so yeah, the system itself is full control
sterile token
i agree with frost, there is not most hateable thing that a providing that cant be managed via CLi instead using their shity panels. Most of time you lost lot of time trying to find the option in the fucking panel
wet breach
seems they have changed and I wonder if its because of people like myself who pointed out how a VPS provider was superior if you were charging based off ram and only allowed the usage of a web panel
orchid gazelle
seems they have changed and I wonder if its because of people like myself who po...
when did you test it out?
wet breach
its like some years ago. I tested them out two times
when they were first getting started
orchid gazelle
huh?
in 2019, it was completely fine. I tested it there
completely normal root access
wet breach
when did you test it out?
it must have been a different provider then that had similar naming
orchid gazelle
possible
wet breach
looking at their page now, this isn't what I remembered lmao
unless they were bought out
orchid gazelle
they were always the same 🤷♂️
halcyon hemlock
ive been here longer than mc host
wet breach
so either I am mistaken or they were bought out, in either case it seems they allow what you should as a hosting provider 😛
wet breach
well idk if you tested before that
I have tested quite a bit of hosting providers over the years
orchid gazelle
well than it could be, idk
wet breach
otherwise how can I recommend?
orchid gazelle
otherwise how can I recommend?
wdym?
wet breach
you can't recommend one provider over another if you don't actually have experience with the provider you are comparing
orchid gazelle
yeah that's true
halcyon hemlock
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wet breach
years ago I would test all kinds of providers. Lately I don't really do that as much as I used to. But from my experience of back then, many people some successful others not so much were getting away with providing hosting in where they limited you to a web panel. I have tried a few of these and from my experience they sucked but it made sense why they restricted you this way and it was because they were charging by the ram allocation
the only providers in regards to hosting that I see the usage of web panel only being acceptable
were shared web hosting providers
orchid gazelle
...and straight up gameservers
wet breach
the only gameservers which I wouldn't call it a game server per-say that I am familiar with in where being provided a panel was probably the best solution was them ventrilo and teamspeak providers
couldn't really see those being done any other way lol
orchid gazelle
everything huge uses aws
halcyon hemlock
i agree
orchid gazelle
well that's a sign for that it is not huge
wet breach
fortnite uses aws
and they pay dearly for this when stuff hits the fan because there is absolutely nothing the devs or anyone else can do except wait on amazon to fix something
this is true with google as well
and between them both they have actually lost customers over such things lmao
but then again, those customers were not smart enough to realize centralizing everything to a single point was probably not the best idea either
halcyon hemlock
never seen fortnite go down
halcyon hemlock
and they pay dearly for this when stuff hits the fan because there is absolutely...
so what do you advise? buy own hardware and datacenters?
wet breach
it will when Amazon encounters another significant problem that affects their API and servers
tender shard
so what do you advise? buy own hardware and datacenters?
don't forget to buy lots of diesel generators
generators love drinking diesel
wet breach
so what do you advise? buy own hardware and datacenters?
not solely relying on google or amazon and rather using their stuff in a way that allows using other services for CDN's or backup CDN's
etc
discord is a prime example in what happens
halcyon hemlock
generators love drinking diesel
i love drinking diesel too
wet breach
discord exclusively uses google's api's
tender shard
fancy! I prefer regular gasoline
wet breach
but if any of the google api stuff or services go down, so does discord
orchid gazelle
if cloudflare dies, a lot of shit dies
wet breach
and this has happened a few times already
wet breach
it burns you
shadow night
Then all random is 0?
halcyon hemlock
Then all random is 0?
then everyone get hacked
shadow night
Lol
sterile token
to conclude, were can you host with decent machines and prize too, because ovh is not a good option for those starters
tender shard
what's wrong with ovh?
tender shard
what happens if the lavalamp explod
aren't they using a camera to film those lamps? If so they could just point the camera towards the street
shadow night
Lol
halcyon hemlock
aren't they using a camera to film those lamps? If so they could just point the ...
😂
sterile token
what's wrong with ovh?
prices? Maybe i dont know 💀
vocal cloud
They could pay someone minimum wage to dance in front of the camera
shadow night
Lmao
sterile token
Ask a latin america to start a buiness hosting on OVh, they will take you to jail as steal crime lmao
vocal cloud
OVH is for illegal game servers lmfao
sterile token
OVH is for illegal game servers lmfao
why? for illegal reasons bullets offshare machines exists 🤔
vocal cloud
Can't host a game server offshore. Ping matters
Quebec doesn't care about legal threats from other countries
Extremely based
sterile token
Quebec whats that? its sound to me
vocal cloud
Quebec is the French province in Canada
tender shard
They could pay someone minimum wage to dance in front of the camera
a baboon would even do it for free - well you gotta give them a banana from time to time
vocal cloud
They are super based because they are super patriotic and hate everyone else. Legal threats don't even bother them
sterile token
Quebec is the French province in Canada
oh okay, so you Queuebec is good alternative for illegalibility and decent ping?
shadow night
They are super based because they are super patriotic and hate everyone else. Le...
"What did you say, you sued me? Pff, good luck"
Why did I do that weird thing with the quote sign
vocal cloud
oh okay, so you Queuebec is good alternative for illegalibility and decent ping?
In theory yes
tender shard
"What did you say, you sued me? Pff, good luck"
» I don't know « said mfnalex. Which is me.
I am myself
shadow night
oh okay, so you Queuebec is good alternative for illegalibility and decent ping?
Wait, does that mean I can ignore DMCAs in quebec
shadow night
I am myself
No
sterile token
In theory yes
thanks for that good ifno, i ididnt know Quebec was liked that. Now i will have to move muy bullets offshare machines to Queuebec
shadow night
You are mfnalex
tender shard
Wait, does that mean I can ignore DMCAs in quebec
I wouldnt wanna go to quebec, everyone there will try to speak french with you
sterile token
Wait, does that mean I can ignore DMCAs in quebec
@vocal cloud could u answer us? Dont let us with the dought. Thanks!!
shadow night
I wouldnt wanna go to quebec, everyone there will try to speak french with you
Bonjour, le baguette, le pain au chocolat, je suis stupide, au revoir, croissant. All of my french vocab
sterile token
yeah where's the dough?
dought doesnt mean "duda"
tender shard
Bonjour, le baguette, le pain au chocolat, je suis stupide, au revoir, croissant...
ajajaja
river oracle
duda
shadow night
dude
vocal cloud
Wait, does that mean I can ignore DMCAs in quebec
You'd have to be anonymous
shadow night
You'd have to be anonymous
Why
vocal cloud
Since they can take legal action at you.
sterile token
Since they can take legal action at you.
Why, if rights doesnt exists there¡ dont lie to us please
tender shard
dought doesnt mean "duda"
correct, it does not mean duda. (??)
what is it even supposed to be after all lol
vocal cloud
The game servers that I know are hosted on OVH in Quebec are still up and the devs anonymous
sterile token
The game servers that I know are hosted on OVH in Quebec are still up and the de...
oh perfect
thats the concept of bullets offshare machins using them anonymous and doing illegal acts. What a good service
vocal cloud
Yeah, except you can get good ping in America and Europe
sterile token
Yeah, except you can get good ping in America and Europe
lmao why didnt i learnt that before? 😡
vocal cloud
Probably because you have to make sure to be anonymous because they will sue your ass
Personally I like digital ocean droplets
Although I don't do illegal stuff LoL
sterile token
The most illegal thing ive done, is tracked a whole vps. Because on their netowkr they used a weird plugman which allowed you to download remote plugins and execute them. So i just compiled a plugin with some sort of instruction for downloading a malware and sending everything to a self bullet offshare machine to thailand
And I did it solely for the purpose of learning about malware and remote communication. Because the plugin simply forced certain processes to shut down and exploited vulnerabilities to gain super user permissions.
Once that was done, what it did was to inject itself into the system as any spywhere would do. And open a websocket connection very complicated to trace to a bullet offshare machine in thailand.
On that machine it would send me info on authentication logins, credential changes, general logging. And even access to a vps own terminal by using what is reverse shell.
halcyon hemlock
what
halcyon hemlock
you want to open menu when you click on npc?
lofty badge
yes
lofty badge
thanks
short pilot
Hey guys, with the LuckPerms API, I'm removing players from groups like this
Group group;
if(player.hasPermission("group.vassal")) {
group = api.getGroupManager().getGroup("vassal");
} else if(player.hasPermission("group.duke")) {
group = api.getGroupManager().getGroup("duke");
} else if(player.hasPermission("group.lord")) {
group = api.getGroupManager().getGroup("lord");
} else {
group = null;
}
It works, but when I add these groups to a track it seems to fail. Anyone know how to fix this?
tender shard
wdym "add them to a track"?
short pilot
Basically permission nodes and weights
rare rover
is there any better way of doing this? I doubt there is but:
@JvmStatic
fun tinyString(string: String): String {
val builder = StringBuilder()
for (char in string) {
builder.append(TINY_LETTERS[char.lowercaseChar()])
}
return builder.toString()
}```like default -> group1 -> group2 -> admin
rare rover
just converts a normal letter into a tiny one aka 'z' to 'ᴢ'
okay discord doesn't let me use it
there
tardy delta
@JvmStatic
fun tinyString(str: String) = buildString {
for (char in str) {
append(TINY_LETTERS[char.lowercaseChar()])
}
}```
if you want it clean
lost matrix
You can probably have a tiny improvement by simply adding an offset to your chars instead of getting it from a map.
rare rover
wdym by offset?
lost matrix
rubbish
lost matrix
Also what a clown syntax
dire saffron
Looking for a dev to make a bungee plugin. Redirects geyser players to one server and Java to another. Dm me if you can help
rare rover
Also what a clown syntax
yeah i dont like how kotlin did mapOf
tardy delta
just use those chars as index to an array and leave all unused slots on some invalid value, no more map lookups
lost matrix
is what your saying?
Nope, i mean an offset added to your characters.
rare rover
ah okay
buoyant viper
at first i didnt realize these were small caps
so i was like wtf just use .toLowerCase()
lost matrix
just use those chars as index to an array and leave all unused slots on some inv...
But make sure to create an offset array, starting at the lowest char. Otherwise you will have a ton of empty memory
But a map is cleaner at that point
tardy delta
wdym offset array, idx 0 = lowest used char?
i believe we can waste like 20 bytes in 2024
tardy delta
fuck java chars are two bytes, in vga they are one
lost matrix
wdym offset array, idx 0 = lowest used char?
a is 61
So you have an array [ta, tb, ...] where tx refers to your tiny values.
You dont start with 60 empty entries, but simply access the array with an offset of 60
so tiny_a = array[normal_a - fixed_offset]
tardy delta
well ye obviously, thats what i said
lost matrix
just use those chars as index to an array and leave all unused slots on some invalid value, no more map lookups
This implies you would have an array with a ton of empty slots
young knoll
Anyway yeah I just made an array and then used the character value to access it
rare rover
i mean i just used a CharArray
idk why the index is -10 though
one sec
i tried this idk if this is right or not
but i is -10 ig so
tardy delta
what does that toTinyChar extension do?
rare rover
what does that toTinyChar extension do?
tardy delta
wrong a
rare rover
hmm, that might be the issue
yeah
not sure why i put the tiny a there
actually big brain
nah that didn't change the index
tender shard
can't you just do offset = tinyA - normalA and then add that offset to every char you want to make tiny
rare rover
shoot
tender shard
ah
why not just use a string
to store the letters
sth like this should do
val ABC = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
val abc = "ᴀʙᴄᴅᴇғɢʜɪᴊᴋʟᴍɴᴏᴘǫʀsᴛᴜᴠᴡxʏᴢ"
fun Char.tiny() {
return if (this in ABC) {
abc[ABC.indexOf(this)]
} else { this }
}
fun String.tiny() {
return this.map { it.tiny() }.joinToString("")
}
If my string is "\n", is it 2 or 1 char long
tender shard
1
shadow night
Hmmm
tender shard
\n is just the char 10
short pilot
How should you properly remove a user from a luckperms group with the API?
tender shard
looks like String#padEnd doesn't work properly on some chars https://paste.md-5.net/ujecevameb.rb
vapid grove
Is there a way to check if a player has started breaking a block (not the BlockBreakEvent)
tender shard
How should you properly remove a user from a luckperms group with the API?
you get their User object and the group's Group object, then you create an InheritanceNode for that group, and you just do user().data().remove(inheritanceNode) I guess
tender shard
Is there a way to check if a player has started breaking a block (not the BlockB...
BlockDamageEvent
vapid grove
BlockDamageEvent
thanks
tender shard
sth like this should do
```kotlin
val ABC = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
val abc...
did this work? I havent tested it
dry forum
how would i go about moving an armorstand based on where its punched? ex, the lower down the higher it goes
tender shard
you'd get the armorstand's bounding box, then you can get the center. Now you can get the vector between the hit location and the center
dry forum
i cant find a way to get the hit location
dry forum
ok thanks
tender shard
you'll have to check whether it even gets called
if it's not called, you can just do a raytrace to get the exact hit position
does anyone know a java/kotlin library to generate properly formatted markdown tables?
worldly ingot
but I am not sure if that's called for armorstands
It does get called for armour stands, and it also exposes the point that was interacted with, so it's especially useful for armour stands
tender shard
ofc I could just print out the values like this
| col1 | col2 | col3 |
|-|-|-|
| mfnalex | 27 | whatever |
and it'd look correct, but I'd like to already have a proper formatted markdown source code
tender shard
It does get called for armour stands, and it also exposes the point that was int...
ok nice! I was confused because the ArmorStandManipulateEvent extends PlayerInteractEntityEvent but not PlayerInteractAtEntityEvent
worldly ingot
Serves a different purpose is all
At is the same as the regular interact event, it just gives you a Vector too
river oracle
ofc I could just print out the values like this
```markdown
| col1 | col2 | col3...
downside is it uses jitpack
tender shard
found!! https://github.com/Steppschuh/Java-Markdown-Generator
ha! fancy! thanks
RIP
it's on jitpack
river oracle
looks like its no longer maintained so if it don't work RIP
river oracle
yeah
tender shard
i don't think there is any "compile" scope
river oracle
you'll want to use implementation
young knoll
compile was Ye olde scope
tender shard
im still looking for a good gradle book
worldly ingot
Good luck
By the time a Gradle book gets published, all the information is inaccurate
young knoll
Lol
tender shard
btw does someone know how I can access my VersionCatalog inside buildSrc scripts? I can access it fine inside normal build.gradle.kts files, but for actual scripts inside buildSrc I have to use this stupid workaround: https://github.com/SpigotBasics/basics/blob/main/buildSrc/src/main/kotlin/Libs.kt
this forces me to do libs("acf-bukkit") instead of libs.acf.bukkit
short pilot
Hey guys, if I'm making subcommands by using a switch statement after a prefix
/k (subcommand)
How can I add these to the /help menu?
shadow night
By manually doing so ig?
worldly ingot
You kind of can't? Depends on what you want
worldly ingot
You can set your command's usage in the plugin.yml to something that placeholds your arguments, e.g. usage: /<command> <myarg>
Or you can register your own help topic
short pilot
when you tab commands you can have autocomplete; is it possible to make the subcommands show up for those?
like
After that there's options like claim, leave, create, etc
worldly ingot
Yes. You'll need to implement and register TabCompleter
short pilot
similar to what you see when you do /gamemode
shadow night
Yes. You'll need to implement and register TabCompleter
Or you can also use the TabExecutor
worldly ingot
If you wrote your command in the main class, you can just override onTabComplete(). If you have a separate class with a CommandExecutor implementation, then you can also implement TabCompleter, or replace CommandExecutor with TabExecutor and override that same method
Command#setExecutor() will automatically assign the TabCompleter for you, as long as the type you register is also an instance of it :p
tender shard
I'll just throw ACF into this chat - avoids all this hassle and does all the tabcomplete, generating help menus, parsing arguments etc automatically
yikes why don't they use TimeUnit or sth instead
river oracle
^ agree +1
Lamp and Cloud are also great for this
tender shard
I shall remind silent about my opinion about cloud
river oracle
tender shard
how can I declare that the constructor of a class throws sth?
river oracle
class ModuleLoader @Throws(InvalidModuleException::class) constructor(val file: file) {
}
^ try this
shadow night
Holy god of kotlin
tender shard
yep thx, that works
young knoll
I thought you didn’t know Kotlin y2k
river oracle
idk why kotlin does it like this its weirdly more verbose than java
tender shard
yeah some things in kotlin are weird
river oracle
I thought you didn’t know Kotlin y2k
I'm participating in the basics development