help-development

[storm crystal]

I dont want it for learning purposes, I already told you what I want to store in it

[wet breach]

even so, there is too many variables where we can't tell you which to exactly use

all we can tell you is what is out there, and some of the benefits and cons of them

its really up to you to choose which you want to use

and the one you choose may not even be the best at first and you won't know that until later down the road

[floral drum]

I love mongo

oh wait the copyleft thing

ugh

I hate that one thing

[wet breach]

lol

[floral drum]

other than that, mongo is cool

[storm crystal]

What are they

[wet breach]

there is literally hundreds. Mysql, postgresql, mongo, sqlite, h2, MsSQL, IBM DB2, Cassandra, NoSQL, CSV, Orient, Dynamo, Neo4j, Firebird. And this isn't event a complete list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_relational_database_management_systems

that link is for relational DB's

there is even more if we consider the non-relational DB's

such as transactional

[river oracle]

there is even a java database built upon bson called Nitrite

[wet breach]

most people would recommend you to use sqlite or Mysql namely because they are the easiest in terms of learning, using, and a bit forgiving in terms of screwing up stuff

[storm crystal]

So how the hell am I supposed to pick correct one

[wet breach]

there is no such thing as correct one

[river oracle]

depends on your needs, for starters I'd pick SQLite or MySQL

[storm crystal]

?xd

[wet breach]

you can't look at it in terms of correct, you won't know if its correct until later when its not providing what you need or its not performing how you need it to

but it also depends on your level of skills to use them as well

[river oracle]

not to mention in programming their tends to be no "correct" tooling

[storm crystal]

Ill just stick to configs as long as itll work

[wet breach]

if its working for you and not providing you any issues right now, then I don't see a reason for you to need to change

[river oracle]

I wouldn't pass up an ability to learn a database

but if you insists not an issue

[wet breach]

but it does happen where you figure out how you are storing data does need to change, but you shouldn't need to worry about that until the time comes for it

and yeah, it may be wise at some point to learn about DB's

especially the common ones because then when you do need it, it won't be such a daunting task to learn it or try to use it

and as I have said, not all DB's are equal each one has its pro's and cons and some are tailored to very specific kinds of things or tasks

so when you do decide you want to use one, its up to you to research which ever and determine if it fits your needs or not

[storm crystal]

Idk man sitting in IDE and just doing homework is plain and boring as hell

In plugins it can at least be applicable right away

[wet breach]

well, programming is not always exciting and filled with thrills 😛

some of us here have been doing this stuff for a couple of decades

some others they are probably hitting or already hit their first decade 😄

[lament slate]

Hey frostalf I have reached a roadblock in my code can I have some help?

[storm crystal]

I dont wish to waste 10+ years of life doing that to just make some stupid mc project

[wet breach]

sure give me a few, in a game

[lament slate]

Thank you

[wet breach]

don't have to, just point is the only reason some of us are as good as we are is because the amount of time we have spent learning this stuff

[wet breach]

what road block did you hit? lol

[lament slate]

Errors with the thing you sent me and performComamnd

[wet breach]

well the thing I sent wasn't complete

also, I wasn't using my ide, so the size() method might not have been correct

could be length() not entirely sure XD

[lament slate]

it seems to be neither actually

[wet breach]

also, my for loop assignment may have been wrong 😛

it probably should have been Player player

for (Player player : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers())

[lament slate]

WEll that fixed every error

Except the one I have with perform command

since I am confused on how to use it

[wet breach]

alright, well you didn't say anything about a command XD

so what do we have now?

[lament slate]

Well I cant even upload the photo

1 minute

[wet breach]

why not verify?

!verify

[undone axle]

Usage: !verify <forums username>

[lament slate]

!verify SkiiTahoe

[undone axle]

Rate limited. Please try again later.

[lament slate]

Thanks its rate limited :(

[wet breach]

lmao, just wait a minute and try again 😛

no rush as I am not going anywhere

[lament slate]

!verify Skiitahoe

[undone axle]

Rate limited. Please try again later.

[lament slate]

Spoigot go brr

[wet breach]

?img

[undone axle]

Can't send images? That's because you're not verified! Use !verify to complete verification.
Alternatively, you can upload screenshots to any image hosting site and share the link.

Here's some screenshot utilities that can use to upload images.
Lightshot: https://prnt.sc
Imgur: https://imgur.com/upload
Flameshot: https://flameshot.org

[lament slate]

Ok we good now

[wet breach]

if its code I recommend using the paste site

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[lament slate]

what do I do for the paste site?

[wet breach]

copy and paste your code

[lament slate]

I did then

[wet breach]

on the right hit save, then share the link

[lament slate]

https://paste.md-5.net/zosecapise.java#

[wet breach]

oh didn't know you already had a foreach method

just fyi, the for loop I sent is the eact same as using foreach

so we can just move that bit up

[lament slate]

What do you mean move that bit up?

You mean your hashmap and my hashmap are the same?

[wet breach]

https://paste.md-5.net/rivocigobe.java

ok removed my for loop you put in, and moved it to your for each

since its the exact same

IE, no need to duplicate 😛

alright, that doesn't solve your whole command thing, but we will get to that. So are you trying to implement your own command for the plugin?

[lament slate]

No

I just want them to be able to do basic commands

randomly

[wet breach]

oh, need to move the assignment of the random too to be above that foreach

otherwise you get a NPE lmao

forgot to do that

[lament slate]

randomsMap.put(uuid, randomNum.nextInt()); above?

[wet breach]

https://paste.md-5.net/rivocigobe.java#L30

see line 30 here, this thing needs to be above the foreach

[lament slate]

ok I did that however randomNum is still a error

[wet breach]

alright, this is different then what you were asking for in regards to the whole random thing. So you want this to randomly execute commands for them?

[lament slate]

well based off there number y es

if they get a 0 its help 1 its me hi basic stuff

[wet breach]

that is because you named it random instead of randomNum

either change randomNum to random or change the variable name

[lament slate]

kk

[wet breach]

either or it don't matter 😛

[lament slate]

Ok I did that then last thing I need is to somehow make the players run the command

[wet breach]

that isn't hard, there is a dispatchcommand method for players

[lament slate]

whats the difference ? or is there not many

Bukkit.getServer().dispatchCommand(Bukkit.getConsoleSender(), "someCommand");
would it be this

[wet breach]

so, do you want this in a loop or do you want this to happen when they do something?

like when they join

[lament slate]

Every minute if see the schedule builder

it runs

[wet breach]

not quite sure why you would want them to execute commands randomly lmao

[lament slate]

im goign to make it so that it uses a class plugin I have to just force switch class

if they run it

[lament slate]

Thats why I want them to be random commands since theres like 5 classes and they willl just do 1 of them

Its going to be something called /class 1 /class 2 etc

However how would I make them do the command according to there id since i tried uuid and player but both didnt work for perform command

[wet breach]

https://paste.md-5.net/defacasixe.java

might need to add a /

to the beginning of the command name

[lament slate]

I tested it you dont

Need a slash i think

I am getting a error forscheduler.runTaskTimer(plugin, () -> {

[compact haven]

well send the error?

[lament slate]

Cannont resolve method for runtask timer

[compact haven]

send ur code and error in a pastebin

error as in the whole stack trace

and code as in the whole class that has a problem

[lament slate]

kk

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[lament slate]

https://paste.md-5.net/pucabeloge.java im getting errors on performCommand and runTaskTimer

[compact haven]

           if (randomNum==0){
                UUID.performCommand("help");
            }

how does this even compile

[river oracle]

Chatgpt code be like

[compact haven]

anyways this code makes no sense

you're invoking static performCommand from classes that don't have it

you're using some random ScheduleBuilder class

[storm crystal]

Okay but 10y of just learning?

[compact haven]

and u have timers in timers :?

now send the error you got @lament slate the whole stack trace

[wet breach]

lol, they had it commented out when I was helping them

yeah probably shouldn't put the scheduler inside the scheduler

XD

[wet breach]

there is always something to learn. Programming languages change, new things come out etc

[compact haven]

I don't get this mindset at all

[wet breach]

even I still learn stuff just on a different level

[compact haven]

It's not 10y of "just learning." It's 10 years of learning and producing

it's not like you're doing school assignments for 10 years to "learn"

you just learn while doing

[wet breach]

they basically want to cheat the time it takes to learn the basics and just magically produce quality stuff

[compact haven]

seems like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

DusskTaler, ask your doctor why they didn't just spend a year learning and if they just quit learning now that they got their job

[wet breach]

but they fail to understand that without learning they won't understand the help being provided or why you should do something in a particular way, and instead accuse people of giving them half measures XD

[lament slate]

Ok let me do it now I got water and am back

[compact haven]

Any good doctor will tell you that they are constantly learning every time they see a patient and write a diagnosis, research a problem, etc

[lament slate]

What do you mean send the whole stack trace error?

[compact haven]

bro

in your console you told me you get "Cannont resolve method for runtask timer"

[storm crystal]

You do

[compact haven]

everything in red in your console, or everything that looks gibberish

[storm crystal]

School sucks

[lament slate]

Ok i understand

[compact haven]

and programming is not school

that was my point

programming is learning by doing

not learning by instructure

[storm crystal]

And I am told to not do plugins

[compact haven]

you will learn by instructure your basics, then you will learn by doing everything else

[storm crystal]

So wheres the logic in that

[compact haven]

you still need instructure to learn the basics ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lament slate]

cannot find symbol for runTaskTimer(plugin

[wet breach]

Maybe not, but you treat it the same. It takes work, time and effort which is no different then school

[compact haven]

send your entire console @lament slate

not a single line

[lament slate]

ok

[compact haven]

anyways thats a compile error? not a runtime error?

are you programming in Notepad? I have no idea how you can write code that invokes non-existant methods

[wet breach]

you are missing imports for the scheduler

[lament slate]

import org.bukkit.scheduler.BukkitScheduler; ihave tho

I have that though

[wet breach]

then maybe its because you stuffed the scheduler inside of a scheduler XD

[compact haven]

what are you programming in? Microsoft Paint?

[wet breach]

so probably should correct that issue

[lament slate]

probably

[compact haven]

nah he wouldnt get that error for the stupid scheduler thing

[lament slate]

INtelliJ

[compact haven]

no you are not

[storm crystal]

I was given half measure, actually I was given different answer everytime I asked same question

[lament slate]

Yes I am

IntelliJ i am using

[storm crystal]

Pretty confusing to say the least

[compact haven]

where are you getting the error?

in your server console or as a tiny tooltip in IntelliJ?

[lament slate]

when I run I get this
cannot find symbol
cannot find symbol
non-static method performCommand(java.lang.String) cannot be referenced from a static context
non-static method performCommand(java.lang.String) cannot be referenced from a static context

[compact haven]

okay yeah

[wet breach]

that is your opinion, but I distinctly remember multiple people providing help and not just me and you were essentially having an issue in what people were trying to tell you so it just came down to just use what the API provides so you wouldn't have to learn all that much to use it again going back to you refusing to learn basics or anything proper.

[compact haven]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[compact haven]

you're writing code that isn't going to compile

[wet breach]

other then learning basics, I would recommend using a proper IDE

[storm crystal]

Nobody has provided me with what basics are

[compact haven]

like I wish I could help you more

[wet breach]

the list is above, and they have

[compact haven]

he is using IJ, just somehow I was confused on "error" being a server runtime error not a compile time error

[storm crystal]

I did w3school

[lament slate]

Well the main problem you are seeing is wit hthe double scheduler which I didn't add I used a util schedule builder for mine to work

[compact haven]

@storm crystal can you point me to your problem / the convo? maybe I can be of help?

[compact haven]

no the main problem is that you're writing Player.performCommand

[zenith gate]

Could not find artifact com.github.ToastArgumentative:ToastRPG:pom:v1.0.1-2 in papermc-repo (https://repo.papermc.io/repository/maven-public/)

Why is maven trying to get my library from paper? i have jitpack in my repo which is where my library is suppose to come from.

[lament slate]

Ya thats the only error I am getting dominick also

[compact haven]

that's not a static method and therefore cant be invoked like that

[lament slate]

Ok well I do not know how to invoke it

[wet breach]

maven goes by order of repos listed

[lament slate]

thats why I was here XD

[zenith gate]

ohh

[river oracle]

try refreshing your maven if that doesn't work you prob have something wrong, that and make sure jitpack is a repository

[lament slate]

I am trying to make it so that players perform a command acording to the number but I do not know how hence performCommand

[storm crystal]

You know getting told to "duh get the basics" without stating what you find basics doesnt help much

[zenith gate]

hmm yeah it's not being detected. I realesed the new version like 15 minutes ago.

[river oracle]

unsure of how jitpack works but I'd say for now post it to your local repo with mvn install, quick dirty fix for this problem

[compact haven]

https://paste.md-5.net/ibihetazos.java this is what you need to do

@lament slate ^

basically you were invoking methods out of context

you had Player.performCommand instead of player.performCommand. Player is a class, player is a variable
and you couldn't do player.performCommand because it was outside of the scope where you looped all players (it was outside the brackets)

[wet breach]

Yeah other then maven going in order of repo's listed, it will search all repos listed for dependencies you have listed until it finds it, or it doesn't find it and errors out

[zenith gate]

yeah ill do that, its just very annyoing my 2 other versions work but -2 doesnt.

[lament slate]

Thats dominick Il ltry it

[storm crystal]

I dont think so

[river oracle]

its possible there is some update timeframe or something

[lament slate]

OH ok thatnks ill try that

[river oracle]

jitpack is so dumb why I just use reposilite or repsy

[zenith gate]

it could be...

[wet breach]

if you provide a version on github jitpack will use that instead of trying to compile

[zenith gate]

this is the first im using of it. this is my first library

[wet breach]

just fyi

[zenith gate]

yeah that's how i have it. i use the tags

[wet breach]

I don't mean just using tags

I mean actually providing a release

[zenith gate]

with compiled source code? or it just zipped?

[wet breach]

if you instead upload a release to the github repo using a tag for version

jitpack will use that release instead of trying to compile the project

[wet breach]

zipped

preferrably a jar

[zenith gate]

it is zipped.. but i can add a jar

[wet breach]

so you can just compile from ide, and then upload the jar as a release

and then jitpack will use it, and its faster that way 🙂

jitpack sucks if it has to compile it and sometimes takes too long that the compiler will error before jitpack finishes

[zenith gate]

so I should just compile it before hand

that makes sense.

[wet breach]

sure why not? have to compile it anyways for a proper maven repo anyways

if you did have one

just most people who have a proper maven repo also have a CI that builds that stuff for them 😛

[lament slate]

for player.performCommand do people need op or no

[compact haven]

no

[lament slate]

Thank you!

[compact haven]

they need permission to run the command

[river oracle]

you can also use something like sonatype or reposilite that you just deploy too and does all the heavy lifting for you

they even provide viewing of docs etc

[wet breach]

I just use a webserver since maven repo's don't actually need anything specific as long as the structure is proper

[compact haven]

@zenith gate how much usage do you expect to see? if its not a ton, I can give u access to my reposilite instance @ https://maven.dominick.sh

[lament slate]

Ok is there a way without permission or no

[compact haven]

eh there might be, not sure

[wet breach]

typically all players have permission to run basic commands

like help for example

unless you specifically take that perm away from them

oh no, the bot is typing

[bold pier]

I'm new to spigot, and was wondering if it is possible to check an items stats, like how many blocks a pickaxe has mined and display that number in one specific line of its lore

[wet breach]

kind of a bit ironic that you are a blue bot, without being blue o.O

[zenith gate]

No no I think i know what the issue is, 1 prolly is timing out if it isnt ill still compile ahead of time, and I also had a few classes I updated, and i didnt update the supers, so it wouldnt compile anyways.

[rough harness]

can someone add 3 slot here i dont know how to dev and this came in a tutorial pack

[sullen marlin]

No that info isn't stored, you'd need to store it yourself

[untold mauve]

how would it be possible to wait to load the players inventory?
like for example when the player joins, their inventory is blank and then after the player runs a command their sever inventory is loaded

do i just copy the inventory to a hashmap, clear it, and set it later?
or is there a better way to do it

[wet breach]

Lol, that last bit might be the cause lmao

jitpack won't provide anything if it fails compiling 😛

if you didn't provide a release, and zips can be used as a release just fine but the user has to specifically set the package type of the dependency as a zip instead of jar

so, typically better to provide a jar and not confuse your users

[compact haven]

look into github actions for a simple CI workflow to test compile on each commit btw

tho u can also setup IJ to do that pre-commit iirc

surprised the automatic code analysis on commit didnt catch that tho?

[rough harness]

code for it

[compact haven]

not the place

[compact haven]

that's not even code

[rough harness]

idk

[lament slate]

do you think this would work
Bukkit.dispatchCommand(player,"me hi")

[compact haven]

yes

with a semi colon after

[rough harness]

i dont code but thats the rtp code

[lament slate]

Ya ik

I f orgot to copy it

[compact haven]

thats the rtp config*

config != code

[rough harness]

that makes the menu?? i need to add 3 more buttons some how

[wet breach]

but it could be code though, whats that one language that I forget XD

[compact haven]

skript?

[wet breach]

there it is

[compact haven]

mycommand?

yeah its neither of those aha

[wet breach]

I know lol

[compact haven]

I mean maybe mycommand, never used that

[wet breach]

but they would still be in wrong place if it was skript or something else

[compact haven]

agreed

[zenith gate]

Good call, I will switch to using jars for new releases.

[rough harness]

can someone just help me add 3 buttons to it

[compact haven]

no

[wet breach]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[rough harness]

cant post lol

[wet breach]

that isn't our problem, its the appropriate place for what you are wanting

this channel is to help those who are developing plugins and the related. You already stated you are not a developer so what you are asking doesn't belong here, the other help channel is for help with the server related issues. That only leaves the forums for what you are requesting and not here. 🙂

[river oracle]

@wet breach do you know a good bit about bit shifting I'm actually curious about something.
so this is the code for packing 2 ints into a single long long packedInts = (((long) left) << 32) | (right & 0xffffffffL);, but why does it work

I get pushing up the left int 32 bits, but besides that I'm not really sure

for example the Binary OR and AND

[ivory sleet]

Well

You bitmask the 32 bits to the right and then u just concat them

like the AND just makes sure that the 32 bits to the right are the remaining ones that should be

basically
yyyy|0000
->
0000|xxxx
->
yyyy|xxxx

[wet breach]

Here is an example of understand bitwise OR

The bitwise OR (|) operator returns a number or BigInt whose binary representation has a 1 in each bit position for which the corresponding bits of either or both operands are 1.

const a = 5; // 00000000000000000000000000000101
const b = 3; // 00000000000000000000000000000011

console.log(a | b); // 00000000000000000000000000000111
// Expected output: 7

so when we add 5 and 3 together using or, the result is 111

thus 7 and not 8

beecause we are not counting the numbers or doing addition

we are instead assigning the bits where they are filled and putting them together

[ivory sleet]

for the x part, we remove the 32 leading bits

[river oracle]

hold up let me demo with 8 bits here and two 4 bit ints

int4 num0 = 0001 // 1
int4 num1 = 0111 // 7

int8 pack = num0 << 4 // this woud result in 00010000
int8 pack = pack | num1
/*
* 00010000
*     0111
* --------
* 00010111
*/

Is this kinda the idea

[ivory sleet]

since we don’t want them to influence the AND operation

yes

[river oracle]

oh okay cool I always struggle to apply the stuff I've learned in assembly to bigger numbers

[wet breach]

if you right shift num0 it will make it 0

it won't wrap around

[river oracle]

oh I meant left shift

oops lol

[wet breach]

so right or left shifting kind of shifts the bits off into the ether

hence why when left shifting the sign gets lost

[ivory sleet]

And then with ur example u’d also use
0b1111 & num1

in case num1 > 0b1111

[wet breach]

but in your example other then the incorrect shift your answer is correct on the bits returned

[river oracle]

does the & just make sure its not bigger than x amount of bits

[ivory sleet]

no not rly

sorta tho

its like
0100 & 0010 = 0000

0101 & 0011 = 0001

AND

[river oracle]

oh wait I just realized what the front is lmfao

I thought that was hex for some reason

[ivory sleet]

but if you use the bitmask
1111 it will basically just allow 4 trailing bits of whatever input u take

oh lol

[river oracle]

I didn't realize it was just 1111 in binary

[wet breach]

Bitwise AND is the opposite of OR

    3          =>  00011
  & 5          =>  00101
------           -------
    1              00001

[ivory sleet]

Yeah y2k

In the example i sent

they use the largest int as the bitmask

[river oracle]

mmmm i see

so when bit shifting like that you lose signage though huh

[wet breach]

yes

unless you do <<<

[ivory sleet]

indeed

[river oracle]

cuz the sign bit dies

[wet breach]

but there is no >>> for right shifting

so you can still lose the sign 😛

[river oracle]

so what would I do if I wanted to preserve signage 🤔 wouldn't that be hard though

[wet breach]

typically its best to record the sign before doing any shifting so you can apply it later if sign is really important

however most bitshifting doesn't need the sign and thus ignores it

[river oracle]

right now I'm seeing if I can pack an location (x, y, z) into a long array with length 2

[wet breach]

for example 3 is still 3 even if its -3 because in binary, the very left most bit is either 1 for negative or 0 for positive

otherwise everything is on the right

[ivory sleet]

given xxxx and yyyyyyyy (binary)
we make xxxx0000 by xxxx << 4
we make 0000yyyy by yyyyyyyy & 00001111
we concatenate to xxxxyyyy by xxxx0000 | 0000yyyy

[ivory sleet]

Visual representation of this concept sorta

[river oracle]

ahh okay

since I have you here conclube I'm wondering a good way to go about this, as I've been trying to think up stuff, but I'm not sure what the "best" way to do it is

[wet breach]

if you get really good at bitshifting, you can actually do very large calculations that exceed integer sizes by splitting up the numbers between two or more integers and working on each as appropriate and then you would just combine them together to get your result

[ivory sleet]

Yea

[river oracle]

Essentially I'm making a plugin where you can place Multiblock structures into the world, I am adding PDC to each chunk the structure is in which references the data of the structure, once its interacted with its loaded in from the chunk's PDC into a cache so I don't have to keep constructing the object while the chunk is loaded.
https://paste.md-5.net/emaxazijop.java. Right now I'm doing what is in the paste, but I feel like there may be a much better way to go about this

I generally want to be fairly efficent with this seeing as their could be thousands of these structures

they store very little data and do most of their functions lazily already, but actually storing them is another issue, I've got the PDC thing down pat for sure, but storing and retrieving them from memory is another story

[wet breach]

world.getMostSignificantBits(), world.getLeastSignificantBits() you can combine these together and store it as a single long

there is actually a method for this where you can get a UUID from a long

in fact there should be one for the UUID to get its long format

[river oracle]

is this even a viable solution to my problem is more what I'm concerned about

an *efficent viable solution

[wet breach]

well, storing purposes you don't need to split them up like this

but as for unraveling a long into a UUID you can do it with bitshifting too if that is a concern

[river oracle]

not super concerned with the micro optimizations atm just want to make sure I'm somewhat on the right track, wasn't really sure how else to go about this

I feel like a data object isn't really needed here for the map either as it'd be a waste I'm only storing numbers

[wet breach]

can there be a different generator at each location?

or is it just per chunk?

[river oracle]

a Generator is a multi-block strucutre.
Essentially multiple generators can exist in one chunk, but each generator takes up multiple blocks, usually 3x3x3 or 27 blocks

[ivory sleet]

Which version of uuid does the world have frost?

[wet breach]

should be version 3

[ivory sleet]

Ah ok yeah

[river oracle]

I should add generators can not intersect either

[wet breach]

but a generator can't just be a single location?

[river oracle]

it could be it depends the size of the structure

my default one is not, but one could create a schematic which is simple 1 block

[ivory sleet]

I know for instance world edit and worlguard uses octrees for their regions y2k

Or well I believe they do at least lol

[wet breach]

I am just concerned with what you are making, not what someone else could do

[river oracle]

in my default case no they can't be a single location

they are always multiple locations

in this specific case its a grouping of 27 blocks

[wet breach]

then you are better off using a format similar to chunks for your coords

basically you would treat your coords as chunks but custom because of your requirements

in this manner, regardless of a coord you should easily be able to obtain any other part of it

since we are going with multiples of 3, it wouldn't be that much different then what MC uses where its a multiple of 8 or 16

not sure if you were aware, but you can actually obtain a chunk coord from the location coord via bitshifting by 16 I think it was

[river oracle]

yep :P

x >> 4 z >> 4 for the chunk coordinates

[wet breach]

ah right 4

[river oracle]

so how would that work out though. I'd need to way to determine if I'm in a 3x3 area based upon a coordinate location

[wet breach]

so anyways, in MC, locations are all backed by a chunk, and each chunk backed by a region file, which is backed by the world

[wet breach]

math, based on 3

if it makes it easier use base 3 system

[river oracle]

but remember since I'm using Chunk PDC i'd also need to beable to determine what chunk/chunks I'm in, but that'd be a completely separate concern huh, that really owuld have no bearing on how its stored in memory

[wet breach]

using base 3 would make it easier on you in terms of doing the math since it can be a bit hard to keep track or visualize with base 2

and its really not hard to go from base 3 to base 2 and vice versa

the math is actually quite simple for that

[river oracle]

wait wouldn't this fall through because you could technically place these generators inbetween my "chunks of 3"

[wet breach]

you mean you could place a generator inside the locations of another generator?

[river oracle]

well you can't but let me show an example of what I mean

I will just use 3 chunks as an exmaple here on a 2d plane
x is our first chunk
y is our second chunk
z is our third chunk
g is where the generator lays

xxgggyzzz
xxgggyzzz
xxgggyzzz
``` as you see my generator intersects with chunk x and y where you now have 2 y's taken and 1 x taken

[ivory sleet]

Y2K i don’t think ur current system is bad

[river oracle]

I'm literally hounding for any advice on improving this

[wet breach]

but this goes against what you said previously that generators are 3x3x3

[ivory sleet]

like u can change it and do it with what frosty suggested, but like… then u need to prevent intersections and possibly spaces of arbitrary n blocks between 2 generators

[river oracle]

not really its still 3x3x3 it just intersepts 2 different chunks of 3x3x3 areas

[wet breach]

which is what asked in that you could place a generator inside the location of another generator

and you said no lol

but now you are saying yes

[river oracle]

well you can't, x, y and z aren't generators only G is

I couldn't place a generator at the 2 x spots left, and the 1 y spot left

[wet breach]

ok, so then I am not understanding then since I am only concerned with generators

nothing else

[ivory sleet]

But as said, another way to represent these regions is in an octtree-styled fashion

[wet breach]

I suppose that is what I am getting at

in a way

[river oracle]

what is an octtree

[ivory sleet]

tree with 8 nodes per node

[wet breach]

but if your generators can't overlap at all you shouldn't have an issue in creating custom chunk structure and your own coord system to refer to each generator

basically each 3x3x3 is its own chunk coord, and from there you would get everything else in there, and then you could get real coords easily

[ivory sleet]

I think another issue is that there may exist 2 generators both with the volume of 3x3x3, but there might be 1 block spaces in between

[river oracle]

that's what I was leading on about

or trying to explain earlier

[ivory sleet]

Yea

[wet breach]

Well if generators are only these size cubes, what exact issue is there if the spacing between one generator is a block distance or even 2 block distance?

what would be in between the generators that would be important ? o.O

[ivory sleet]

Not sure if every volume was 3x3x3 axis aligned

But ye

[river oracle]

other blocks spawners etc

[wet breach]

well, you didn't say anything about other block spawners lol

[river oracle]

I could just force a snap to a 3x3 grid, but then again I feel like a better solution would be afoot then

[wet breach]

having it axis aligned would be ideal

[river oracle]

I'm assuming we are within a normal Minecraft Environment

[wet breach]

however even if we are not doing axis aligned you could do a sudo alignment as well

but I think the easiest would just to treat those gaps as their own thing

you could just map those gaps as needed to whatever you needed them to be

[river oracle]

@ivory sleet I've got to head to bed, but would it be fine for you to explain the OCTOTREE to me more tomorrow night, If I can't get a good grasp on it I might just do an 3x3 grid as forst suggested for now and maybe switch it up later.

It'd be pretty easy to make a grid snapping system for them, so if I were to execute this I'm not too concerned about all that

[wet breach]

ah yes the historical misspelling of my name can't forget that 😉

[river oracle]

lol forstalf xD

[ivory sleet]

Yeah miles, lets takr that tmrw then :)

[river oracle]

thanks for the help guys

I've exited this discussion a semi smarter man

[wet breach]

[grim hound]

Are you... Adding imports by hand?

[lament slate]

Yes however

The program works now

[grim hound]

Do you know about the IDE's auto import/import select?

[lament slate]

nope

[grim hound]

Also what do you program in?

[lament slate]

IntelliJ

[grim hound]

Yeah so

If there is "cannot resolve smthg"

Left click on that

The alt + enter

[lament slate]

huh more ya know

[grim hound]

Left alt

[lament slate]

Thanks for teaching me that trick

[grim hound]

It should suggest imports if there is more than one class with that name

[lament slate]

Ya I just tested it

with player

[grim hound]

Anyway gtg now, school's waiting

[lament slate]

Peace

[icy beacon]

It'll also suggest them when you are typing

// suggests Player, you can select it and it'll autoimport
Pla

[valid burrow]

whats the diff between creaturespawnevent and entityspawnevent

waitnvm

makes sense actually

[lament slate]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[lament slate]

Hi currently my plugin makes all players every minute randomly choose a number between 0-2 and a command happens based off that. However I found a error the player needs to have OP to use the commands or the perms to use them which is a problem for me. Does anyone know a work around to this? My idea was to make another class which grabbed the players name and stores it and then tells console to run it as the player with execute? I do not know if thats possible though and could use some guidance.
Code Here if you want to see it:https://paste.md-5.net/ijaharisin.java (Reply to this if you can or ping me since its late for me and I might not see it until tommorrow)

[wet breach]

give them the perms

[smoky oak]

console as sender, pass name as arg

[lament slate]

NO im not giving everyone creative perms XD

[wet breach]

they don't need creative perms to run commands?

[lament slate]

one of the commands is gamemode creative

[wet breach]

ok....then how you expect them to run that command ?

what are you expecting to actually happen?

[lament slate]

Well I am going to change it something that is a class thing later on for fighting however the point is you get the class and no switches until 10 minutes

[wet breach]

fyi, you can just change their game mode via the api

[smoky oak]

that too

[wet breach]

it should never really be necessary from the plugin to make a player do a command

[lament slate]

how would I pass the name as a arg since I am new to args

[lament slate]

Well its to late to go back on that now XD

[smoky oak]

add the string at the end but frosthalfs right, use Player::setGamemode

[lament slate]

ive been here for 7 hours I am not wasting that time :(

[wet breach]

I see we are going to get a bunch of new developers wanting to do the wrong things 😑

[lament slate]

Ya frost you already know that with me tho

[wet breach]

well you may be new, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse for doing it wrong

[lament slate]

True

[wet breach]

its your plugin however, therefore you are indeed free to do whatever

just can't expect some of the experienced people here to keep their sanity in trying to help you

or help for that matter

[lament slate]

ya fair

The point of the plugin is to not change there gamemode i was just using that to test I have a /class plugin to set somenoes class and no one can acess it however I want it so that the server randomly chooses one for them every 10 minutes

[smoky oak]

hey frost, if its my plugin is there a way to obfuscate it so this doesnt happen again?
https://discord.com/channels/@me/994727503925096458/1173400568312639558

[lament slate]

I didnt mean to do it wrong I was using gamemoded as a testing thing

[wet breach]

what do you mean class?

like a kit?

[lament slate]

Ya

[lament slate]

Correct

[wet breach]

this isn't hard to do, and you don't need commands for this although you can implement a command for testing purposes that only you can access

[lament slate]

Well how else would I give them a random kit

[wet breach]

as I said earlier, it is generally never necessary to make a player perform a command

[wet breach]

you can just stick the stuff on them in their equipment slots

[lament slate]

I suppose that would also work ya

[wet breach]

instead of running a command, you instead would invoke one of your classes for a kit to give

and you would turn this into a method that gets invoked instead of your command thing you are doing lol

[lament slate]

Ya true

[wet breach]

if you need something to provide some insight here is one of my defunct plugins that is handy for teaching

https://github.com/frostalf/servertutorial

[lament slate]

Thanks

[wet breach]

its open source under the MIT license I believe so feel free to use what you find handy

[lament slate]

I plan for this plugin that im making to be a one time thing then since I did it so badly

so next time im better

[wet breach]

well as long as you are learning and plan to do better next time around. It is what makes some of us here so called professional

because we learn from our mistakes and try to not do them again 😛

[lament slate]

Ya next time I got so much to ad

add*

and a new way of doing it easier

[wet breach]

that is always a learning experience

always learning a new way

[lament slate]

Welp for now ima try to do it wrongly and make console run the command for the player but next time ima just do the kits thing where I make them equip the stuff

[wet breach]

lol

[lament slate]

Yes im coping since I have done this for 6 hours or something

[wet breach]

don't worry I have had projects where it took a couple of months

just take your time on it 🙂

[lament slate]

public static Player getPlayerExact(){
return getPlayerExact();
} would this be a way of grabbing names and then sending them

[wet breach]

you could, but uh I recommend not using static though

if you want to use static then use the Bukkit method

Bukkit.getPlayerExact(name or uuid here);

that method is static already so no need to duplicate and create one

[lament slate]

so I do not need a new class?

or I do not need static

[rotund ravine]

Don’t need a new method

[lament slate]

how would I do it without a new method since getPlayerExact does not work

Then

[rotund ravine]

.

[lament slate]

I tried that it did not work for me

[rotund ravine]

?nowork

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[lament slate]

Ok fine

Expected 1 arguments but found 0 is what I get when i do

[wet breach]

might be getPlayer().getPlayerExact() lol

[lament slate]

Bukkit.getPlayerExact(name or uuid here);

[rotund ravine]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[wet breach]

name as in the player name which is a string

or you input their uuid

[rotund ravine]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Bukkit.html#getPlayerExact(java.lang.String)

[wet breach]

oh I was right the first time nice

just doing it all from memory XD

[lament slate]

Wait so I am confused then what do I put inside the parentehsis

Bukkit.getPlayerExact();

[wet breach]

either a string which is the player name

[rotund ravine]

Are you coding for a singleplayer game?

[lament slate]

No

multiple people

[wet breach]

or a UUID which belongs to the player

[rotund ravine]

Only takes name

getPlayer for uuid

[wet breach]

oh, then their name

which is a string

[lament slate]

so what I am hearing is that for Bukkit.getPlayerExact(); it will not get the player name since it needs the player name?? im confused

[lament slate]

I am confused since this does not seem to grab someones name but the class I made might?

[wet breach]

it grabs the player with that name or closest match to the name

[lament slate]

Ok is there a way I can just grab all players names?

and then do the whole process of making them run a command through console

[wet breach]

you woul need to loop through online players

[lament slate]

Ok I can do that hwoever what is teh command to grab a players name?

[rotund ravine]

Skiita

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[rotund ravine]

Use the javadoc

[lost matrix]

In 90% of cases you should call methods instead of letting them invoke commands when you are coding.

[lament slate]

Ok can you send the begginers guide for java again so I can find that

Please

[lost matrix]

Sometimes people prefer learning through videos. You should also look into that.
Otherwise:

?basics

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[lament slate]

Thank you

[lavish cliff]

guys what i can do when intellij is bugged like this?

(im using 1.19.2)

[shadow zinc]

Why am I getting the following error for the following code: ```java
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'net.dv8tion.jda.api.entities.TextChannel github.scarsz.discordsrv.DiscordSRV.getDestinationTextChannelForGameChannelName(java.lang.String)'
at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.integrations.discorsrv.DiscordSRVHook.sendMessage(DiscordSRVHook.java:16) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.performance.performanceHeartBeat.HaltNotifier.notifyResumed(HaltNotifier.java:53) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.performance.performanceHeartBeat.HeartBeat$1.run(HeartBeat.java:58) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R2.scheduler.CraftTask.run(CraftTask.java:101) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R2.scheduler.CraftScheduler.mainThreadHeartbeat(CraftScheduler.java:480) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickChildren(MinecraftServer.java:1470) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.tickChildren(DedicatedServer.java:446) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickServer(MinecraftServer.java:1379) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.runServer(MinecraftServer.java:1156) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$spin$0(MinecraftServer.java:315) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:840) ~[?:?]

[rotund ravine]

You sure it’s bugged?

[shadow zinc]

package com.neomechanical.neoperformance.integrations.discorsrv;

import github.scarsz.discordsrv.DiscordSRV;
import github.scarsz.discordsrv.api.Subscribe;
import github.scarsz.discordsrv.api.events.DiscordReadyEvent;
import github.scarsz.discordsrv.util.DiscordUtil;
import net.dv8tion.jda.api.entities.TextChannel;

public class DiscordSRVHook {

    public void sendMessage(String message) {
        TextChannel textChannel = DiscordSRV.getPlugin().getMainTextChannel();

        if(textChannel!=null) {
            textChannel.sendMessage(message).complete();
        }
    }

    @Subscribe
    public void discordReadyEvent(DiscordReadyEvent event) {
        // Example of using JDA's events
        // We need to wait until DiscordSRV has initialized JDA, thus we're doing this inside DiscordReadyEvent
        DiscordUtil.getJda().addEventListener(new JDAListener());
    }

}

[rotund ravine]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[shadow zinc]

only works for paper 😦

[lavish cliff]

yeah , yesterday nothing got wrong

[rotund ravine]

What class is target

[lavish cliff]

everything , it's like im using 1.13

[rotund ravine]

Classname

[lavish cliff]

"Info"

[rotund ravine]

What is info?

?nocode

[undone axle]

It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.

[lavish cliff]

wait i will send u the class

https://pastebin.com/G3V8vRSz

[rotund ravine]

What is your pom/gradle?

[lavish cliff]

wait

[rotund ravine]

@lavish cliff

Oh ok

[hybrid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gif-22082766

[lavish cliff]

https://pastebin.com/fi6vjB6t

[rotund ravine]

@lavish cliff

Thx

I can tell you brandname does not work

It does not exist in the api

[lavish cliff]

also getPing?

[rotund ravine]

getPing is there i. 1.19.2 on Player

[rotund ravine]

Curious

[lavish cliff]

so how i can fix that

[rotund ravine]

Ctrl click on target?

Then ctrl click on player

See what it bring up from what dependency

[lavish cliff]

why bukkit 1.13?

[rotund ravine]

Well blame maven

[lavish cliff]

i don't find any method added in "latest" version

[rotund ravine]

@tender shard tell hum how to look throigh his maven dependency tree

[lost matrix]

Looks like the runtime version of jda is different than the version you are using on compiletime

[lost matrix]

@SuppressWarnings("all")

[shadow zinc]

Server is using DiscordSRV-Build-1.26.2.jar, I am using <version>1.26.2</version> api

all latest

the documentation on discordsrv is horrid

[lost matrix]

Are you relocating jda?

[shadow zinc]

no, because the documentation doesn't cover that

[lavish cliff]

just for don't see the "no usage" for the class , I checked everything before putting it

[shadow zinc]

never said anything on literally nothing

[lavish cliff]

use JDA

[lost matrix]

How about @SuppressWarnings("unused")

[lavish cliff]

oh... exist

ty

[shadow zinc]

there only this on it is this github repo https://github.com/DiscordSRV/DiscordSRV-ApiTest/blob/531bfaa9974878dc885e56ed4ff2da8bb318a70d/pom.xml

the pom doesn't relocate

i've asked on their discord server but there is 0 support lol

[lost matrix]

Did you shade jda?

[lament slate]

Ok I figured out how to do commands without having perms to actually do said commands thanks to you and JanTruck and 7smile7
ConsoleCommandSender console = Bukkit.getServer().getConsoleSender();
Bukkit.dispatchCommand(console, "execute as "+ player.getName() +" run gamemode creative");
System.out.println("execute as "+ player.getName() +" run gamemode creative UPDATE TEST");

[shadow zinc]

i shaded my plugin?

[lost matrix]

pom.xml pls

[lost matrix]

I mean... This works but its def not how a developer would do this.

[lament slate]

For my first program its acceptable :(

[lost matrix]

Sure

[lament slate]

Look I didnt even know what a class was until like 6 hours ago

This is progress to me XD

[lament slate]

also how would a developer do it?

[lost matrix]

Just as a future reference. Your code will probably look more like this

Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach(player -> player.setGameMode(GameMode.CREATIVE));

[lament slate]

Ok well lets say I want the command to be /supersecretcommand

Then it would work :D

[lost matrix]

If there is no way around using the command, then yours is the proper way

[lavish cliff]

https://pastebin.com/fi6vjB6t

[lament slate]

Ok ya for gamemode though I am saving that command you sent me since I needed that

[lost matrix]

?

[shadow zinc]

https://github.com/KyTDK/NeoPerformance/blob/master/pom.xml

[lost matrix]

Put the spigotmc import on top of your dependencies.
And then run mvn clean

[lavish cliff]

ok

omg that's the problem

ty @lost matrix

[lost matrix]

I think luckperms pulls oder versions. Same goes for Vault

[lavish cliff]

ye i need to update them

[shadow zinc]

dear lord this is shameful

[lost matrix]

Nah i mean they always pull ancient spigot versions no matter what XD

[shadow zinc]

they made an example project that doesn't cover half of it and called it a day

[lavish cliff]

oh ok lmao

[lost matrix]

Pls show the pom which shades jda. Your root level pom is kinda useless 🙂

[shadow zinc]

not sure what you mean by shading the jda, but here: https://github.com/KyTDK/NeoPerformance/blob/master/api/pom.xml

[lost matrix]

Where is your DiscordSRV dependency located??

[shadow zinc]

in there

i haven't committed

did it just then

[lost matrix]

[weak adder]

i have a set of 2 coords minX Y and Z and max X Y and Z in a config file
how can i detect if a player is inside the region?
Something like this

areas:
  test:
    enabled: true
    world: world
    time_required: 10
    location:
      minX: -439.0
      minY: 95.0
      minZ: 386.0
      maxX: -432.0
      maxY: 89.0
      maxZ: 395.0

[lost matrix]

Did you install DiscordSRV on your server as well? Same version?

[shadow zinc]

yes

and its functional

[lost matrix]

Create a BoundingBox with those coordinates and check when a players BB intersects with the region.
This can either be done through a scheduler or when a player moves.

[weak adder]

Alright

Thanks

[lost matrix]

Idk then.
Make sure to never use plugman or the /reload command of spigot. Other than that it sounds like a problem with their API.

[shadow zinc]

oh

hold up...

that might be it

nope

i was really hoping that was it

might just tell the person who suggested that to get fucked

thank you for the help, once again

[lost matrix]

Could you send the exception again?
The path youve sent before looks scuffed

[shadow zinc]

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'net.dv8tion.jda.api.entities.TextChannel github.scarsz.discordsrv.DiscordSRV.getMainTextChannel()'
        at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.integrations.discorsrv.DiscordSRVHook.sendMessage(DiscordSRVHook.java:13) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
        at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.performance.performanceHeartBeat.HaltNotifier.notifyHalted(HaltNotifier.java:33) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
        at com.neomechanical.neoperformance.performance.performanceHeartBeat.HeartBeat$1.run(HeartBeat.java:52) ~[NeoPerformance-1.15.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R2.scheduler.CraftTask.run(CraftTask.java:101) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R2.scheduler.CraftScheduler.mainThreadHeartbeat(CraftScheduler.java:480) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickChildren(MinecraftServer.java:1470) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.tickChildren(DedicatedServer.java:446) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickServer(MinecraftServer.java:1379) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.runServer(MinecraftServer.java:1156) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$spin$0(MinecraftServer.java:315) ~[paper-1.20.2.jar:git-Paper-260]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:840) ~[?:?]

[weak adder]

The bouding box is in the newer versions of spigot API im currently using Spigot 1.12 any idea on this version?

[lost matrix]

Copy the BoundingBox implementation of a newer spigot version into your plugin

[weak adder]

how can I do it? Im new to this lol

Seems complicated

[lost matrix]

You go into the class, mark everything, copy it, create your own class with the same name, and paste everything

[lost matrix]

I mean the method is here

[shadow zinc]

yeah lol

[warm mica]

Alternatively you can just do these minX >= x <= maxX yourself

[weak adder]

So like I have to open the spigot src and copy the BindingBox class from that and add it to my plugin?

[shadow zinc]

hmm

[lost matrix]

Look into your jar and check if you have a github.scarsz... path in your compiled plugin

[shadow zinc]

Not sure where to look

i think its not there

maybe

idk

[lost matrix]

Or you create your own box class and write the logic yourself.
Its really just a few if checks between player x,y,z and your min/max x,y,z

[shadow zinc]

i could set it to compile instead of provide?

[lost matrix]

your root should have something like

com
net
org

Domains like that. And now you look for github

[shadow zinc]

not there

I'm going to set it to compile for it to shade

[lost matrix]

Nope if its a standalone plugin then you always use provide

[shadow zinc]

oh

idk then

[lost matrix]

Hmm. Put your DiscordSRV dependency right under your spigot import and try again.

[weak adder]

This is what I currently have in a Event Listener https://pastebin.com/33iZaSGd

[lost matrix]

You should not read out of configs the whole time. Write more classes and load your data into those.

[shadow zinc]

WE GOT HELP FROM THE ACTUAL DEVELOPERS

they said: DiscordSRV api users: if you need to use JDA please use the 1.27.0-SNAPSHOT version of the DiscordSRV api until we publish the next version of DiscordSRV

gonna try it

okay so maybe its just badly designed and appartently a pinned discord message is enough

this is utter shame

[weak adder]

👍

[shadow zinc]

just need to crash my server to test it

thats how its triggered lol

well problem solved

thank you again 7smile7

if i could updoot you i would

[clear elm]

i cant hit people

[lost matrix]

good

[clear elm]

?

[inner mulch]

why is /reload not being recommended?

[lost matrix]

Because spigot doesnt support it and plugins constantly break because of it

[inner mulch]

ok

[tender shard]

mvn dependency:tree

[wet breach]

spigot does support it, it is typically plugins not supporting it like they are supposed to

[tender shard]

spigot says it's unsupported when you run it

[wet breach]

not sure why, there is nothing in spigot itself that would cause it to not work

but it could just be because plugins historically failed to support it

so might as well say its not supported lol

[tender shard]

no clue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter rune]

My language of choice is c; it's more universal. Is there a way to code plugins in c?

[tall dragon]

if you are brave enough

[lost matrix]

There are ways to write spigot plugins in any (turing complete) language

[tender shard]

it'd be much easier to just learn basic java

[lost matrix]

But you should really learn some object oriented language besides C.
Or any to be honest. C is kind of like a surgical knife in an arsenal of weapons. Sure you can finish every opponent if you just
resiliently poke him enough, but there are def more sophisticated tools you could use.

[wet breach]

could use JNI

[bitter rune]

I know some java and I'm learning in college basic coding I can apply to all languages; just finished loops, arrays, and lists. File handling and applications is this week but I already know a little about that

[lost matrix]

Oh so C isnt you language of choice. You would need choices before you can clam that ^^

[wet breach]

another method may be to create a native lib and have it be loaded by the JVM. Kind of like a spigot plugin, but instead a JVM plugin

[bitter rune]

I just prefer c at least currently I'm more familiar and my environment is already setup.. Technically I have intellij setup for Minecraft as well and Python setup

[valid burrow]

is there a way i can set the hostality of a creature? For example make a zombie not attack players or a sheep attack players

[ivory sleet]

I mean its possible

But like java will be so easy for u

[lost matrix]

In this case: def learn java. It has a pretty similar syntax to C and you will get the hang of ot pretty quickly as soon as you understand objects.

[storm crystal]

Ew C

It has like mallocs and pointers

Thank god we have python classes

[bitter rune]

I'm also trying to learn unreal engine... I can't seem to find where the code goes though... Unreal engine I'm trying to learn for ark survival ascended but I need to start from scratch with this

Python looks less involved I like needing the brackets in c and Java

[lost matrix]

How about you master one language before picking on other languages...

[storm crystal]

Wdym

[lost matrix]

I mean that in the literal sense

[storm crystal]

I am forced to learn python cuz of classes at uni

But pace is pretty slow

[bitter rune]

It's best to learn universal concepts before focusing on one language; at least that's what they are teaching us

[storm crystal]

Just finished for and while loops

[ivory sleet]

malloc is just a function to allocate space, or well memory on heap

Java has it

Just that its a bit higher level

[storm crystal]

Yeah memory allocation by hand is disgusting

[ivory sleet]

no not really

[bitter rune]

What's your major?

[lost matrix]

Cant be CS. No uni would teach python as first language

right...?

[tender shard]

I wish you could study Chicken Wing science

[ivory sleet]

Memory allocation by hand is not disgusting, in fact memory allocation not by hand is generally considered disgusting, I mean… we invented garbage collectors because we’re noobs at memory management

[storm crystal]

Cybersecurity

[lost matrix]

[bitter rune]

You aren't on week 4 this week are you? Really weird if we are in same course lol. I just learned loops as well

[tender shard]

I'm an expert in chicken wings, I could teach it

[lost matrix]

In this case working very close to the memory is extremely important for you

[storm crystal]

Eh like 6 week ig

[storm crystal]

idrc

[wet breach]

it has malloc but Java uses it at a low level, but it primarily makes use of the new variant calloc

[storm crystal]

Teachers know what we need on course better and they dont teach us it

[bitter rune]

Ah, I'm majoring in app development with a bit of history focused just because I like history

[valid burrow]

any ideas?

[lost matrix]

Only with a custom nms implementation

[bitter rune]

It's better to learn things or know things before taking a course that's supposed to teach you; you need to adjust your thinking to understand basic cis concepts I started about 7 months ago and I'm just taking my first core course which that plus khan acadamey and 7 months of messing around with code made it a lot easier to grasp

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityTargetLivingEntityEvent.html

just cancel this

or

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityTargetEvent.html

[lost matrix]

Meh

Remove him from the banlist

[tender shard]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/BanList.html#pardon(T)

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[valid burrow]

thx

[upper hazel]

what should the json file look like for a block that loads a texture for a specific state?

[wet breach]

I never went to school, got to mess with satellites, sub contracted with one of the largest DC's in Arizona, done some custom networking setups for a few different businesses, have been a systems admin for a few different places 😄

[valid burrow]

but is there a way were i would not need to constantly update the target?

[lost matrix]

Not really possible

[valid burrow]

i feel like that is gonna be VERY bad for the usage

cause in my situation i would have to do it for EVERY living entity

[wet breach]

you don't need to update the target, you just cancel it

[upper hazel]

I mean how to add a texture to a specific block state

[bitter rune]

I understand that and I understand college isn't for everyone... I just learn better this way in the environment for me personally it helps

[wet breach]

your other method if its for all entities is just to set the server peaceful

[glossy venture]

server resource pack

[valid burrow]

no i need to update it. as i said make a sheep attack a player for example

[upper hazel]

I only know how to use ModelData

[storm crystal]

And there are still places that wont hire you if you dont have the paper

[upper hazel]

but idk how use block state

[wet breach]

well sheep don't attack players and if you try to make them do so they kind of bug out

in order to do it, you would have to disguise another entity as a sheep XD

[valid burrow]

what does bug out mean

[wet breach]

glitch

make it do weird things

[valid burrow]

okay sure i can disguise another entity

[tender shard]

sheep in real life are already bugged, they don't give bacon

[wet breach]

lol

[valid burrow]

but couldnt i do it the otherway around then too

and what about hitboxes

[wet breach]

what do you mean the other way around?

[lost matrix]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Predicate

[valid burrow]

disguise a sheep as a zombie so the zombie doesnt attack the player

[upper hazel]

I know that textures require a texture pack. But I need to know how to bind a specific texture to a specific block state. How is this written in a json file?

[wet breach]

sure

[bitter rune]

You can stop mobs from attacking and it not bugging out if you want you can have my sneak skill that does just that

[valid burrow]

yh but i also need to make friendly creatures attack the player

i need to be able to set every level of hostility on every creature

and im looking for the best way to do that

[bitter rune]

It's probably possible you just need to get all the edge cases, and probably a better way to do it then I am thinking

[lost matrix]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Tutorials/Models#Block_models

[rigid otter]

Hello, I'm looking for Android library that can connect with the RCON. Hard tried on the internet. Does it really exist one?

[lost matrix]

Isnt RCON just a protocol?

Yeah its just a TCP protocol. So any TCP lib will do.

[rigid otter]

But i couldn't find one.

I've found only a java library, but it doesn't work for Android enviroment

[wet breach]

should be telnet protocol

[upper hazel]

oh tfnks

[wet breach]

generally not recommended to use

but MC has it so whatever lol

[lost matrix]

How much time do you have? You could just write a wrapper for that protocol yourself in a few hours. Maybe 2 days.

[rigid otter]

No, I can run server command on Android app, and do much more stuff. The problem is that the existing Java libraries do not work for Android.

The Socket class just does not work when I write it in an Android app

[wet breach]

you are better off using a SSH client on android then you are using RCON

[lost matrix]

Have you tried all those?

[wet breach]

or better yet just make your own mc plugin for connecting

then you don't really have to worry about much

[rigid otter]

Not all yet, but most not work

[wet breach]

for something basic and easy, the plugin only needs a single class really and all you are doing is using as a passthrough for console in essence

[rigid otter]

Because of this, I have no idea to hook from Android app to other Java application

There are some of Android apps using RCON. Why can't we?

[wet breach]

not sure what you mean by Socket class just does not work

android has sockets....it must since it has internet

question is, what in fact is actually wrong with the class file that needs to be changed

as there is difference between android sdk and java sdk

[inner mulch]

     //code
}```
are there better ways to do this? or are better ways not needed because it is efficient?

[wet breach]

its a foreach

so its fine

[inner mulch]

so even with 100 players it would cause lag?

[tender shard]

depends on what //code is ofc lol

[slender elbow]

Thread.sleep of course

[rigid otter]

Depends on your code inside that for each

[inner mulch]

an example would be a tabcompleter for a command

[lost matrix]

I would rename all to each or player

[inner mulch]

that recommends all players

[tender shard]

if looping over a collection with 100 entries would cause lag per se, we wouldn't have anything coded in java

[inner mulch]

good idea, i will rename it

[rigid otter]

each is not all by the way, 😄

[wet breach]

//alternative way instead of the for loop. This is the Lambda way.
Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers.foreach(player -> {
    //do something here
});

[lost matrix]

Thats the point

[tender shard]

you mean forEach(...) ?

[inner mulch]

would this be better? or does it change nothing at all?

[tender shard]

it wouldn't be better

[wet breach]

yeah I forgot the foreach, added it 😛

[tender shard]

it doesn't matter at all. just loop over it, it's not an issue

[wet breach]

it is the exact same, both are foreach so no difference just a different way

some people like using the enhanced for loop

others like using the lambda

the enhanced for loop internally uses foreach

so, preference 🙂

[rigid otter]

If you want more, I think that you can iterate each player in a tick. Do stuff with one player per tick. Hint is using Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask()

[wet breach]

depends overall what is they are trying to accomplish

[rigid otter]

Yeah

[wet breach]

not really necessary to use a scheduler just for iterating 😛

[rigid otter]

Now I still can't find the easiest way to use RCON on Android 😴 Maybe bye here. Suck Android limitation over Java.

[hazy parrot]

Isn't it translated to Iterator?

[tender shard]

fernflower at least shows exactly the same source code

[wet breach]

no, enhanced for loop internally uses foreach

[slender elbow]

it compiles to using the Iterator

you can break out of an enhanced for loop, you can't break out of a forEach

[wet breach]

enhanced for loop uses foreach

[hazy parrot]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-14.html#jls-14.14.2

[slender elbow]

might wanna take a look at your javap 🤔

[tender shard]

how would that work if forEach was added long after enhanced for?

anyway, doesn't matter whether one uses Collection#forEach or a normal for loop or an enhanced for loop to loop over all players, in the end

[wet breach]

because updates

they are basically both the same except in a few different scenarios

[wet breach]

helps to reference more up to date specs

[slender elbow]

it doesn't make sense for the enhanced for loop to compile to use forEach, again you can't break out of forEach, you can break out of an enhanced for, so how does that work?

in any case, the bytecode doesn't lie https://godbolt.org/z/hq9Y7bz9s

i'm surprised you don't know this one

[hazy parrot]

Sure, https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se21/html/jls-14.html#jls-14.14.2

[wet breach]

well too late now

I figured it was outdated specs when I was looking at it XD

[wet breach]

well according this, it essentially means that foreach would also be a form of iterable in the end

which makes sense

it doesn't say that enhanced for loop isn't the same as for each, just what the rules are for something to be an enhanced for loop. But this is isn't implementation though, more or less a specification. Big difference between a spec and an implementation

[storm crystal]

What is this static with {}

[eternal oxide]

a static initializer

[ivory sleet]

like constructor, but it runs when the class is loading

[eternal oxide]

runs when the instance is created

[ivory sleet]

So once per class basically

[storm crystal]

Why is there separate thing like that

[eternal oxide]

its usefull?

[ivory sleet]

Yeah well, it has its usefulness as elgar said

[storm crystal]

Why?

Cant you just use constructor

If its like it

[neat mesa]

emily

[slender elbow]

and the specification mandates how a language feature is implemented

powercas stfu

[tender shard]

well for example for the stuff I have sent

[lost matrix]

A constructor runs every time an instance is created.
A static block just runs once, when the class is loaded by the classloader.

[tender shard]

the static init block basically IS a constructor, but for the class itself, not an instance of it

[storm crystal]

So no difference, its still loaded either way

[tender shard]

no, a normal constructor is called per instance, not per class

[wet breach]

next weekend I will check the implementation

I could be wrong, and it may be something else that is the same as the enhanced for loop

[tacit thistle]

you are wrong

[storm crystal]

But you have your shit loaded and ready to go

In both cases

[tacit thistle]

the Iterable interface was introduced as a base for enhanced for loops

[slender elbow]

since day 1 an enhanced for loop has compiled to iterator usage

(for Iterables, indexed for arrays)

[wet breach]

I never said it didn't

[slender elbow]

you heavily suggested it changed in some versions which it clearly doesn't

[tender shard]

a static init block is, as the name suggests, there to initialize static stuff

unlike a constructor which only runs when an instance is created

[wet breach]

show me where I said its not an iterable

[storm crystal]

And why you cant do it in constructor

[tender shard]

because the list is static

and the methods that access it are too

so the list would be empty if I would populate it in the constructor

[storm crystal]

Why method needs to be static to access static shit

[slender elbow]

literally this

[wet breach]

all I said is that enhanced for loop uses foreach, which foreach is a form of iterable itself so it doesn't mean it breaks the contract. As I said I will check the implementation this weeked

[tender shard]

it doesn't have to be

[slender elbow]

man can't accept he's wrong

[storm crystal]

Why

[tender shard]

but why should it not be static if it does not require an instance

[tender shard]

because I have never created an instance

[lost matrix]

Because it doesnt make sense otherwise. Its like trying to drive the blueprint of a car.

[wet breach]

are you going to check the implementation?

[storm crystal]

Well people here told me to not make shit static

[tender shard]

because you don't understand what it means

[eternal oxide]

you don;t use static unless you know what you are doing

[slender elbow]

no because i know how it works

[storm crystal]

So make your mind

[wet breach]

oh so you don't know then

thanks for confirming you are not willing to show implementation 🙂

[slender elbow]

because you clearly do

[tacit thistle]

that's just wrong, forEach is a default method in Iteratable which then uses an enhanced for loop under the hood

[lost matrix]

You shouldnt abuse static. And 90% of beginners simply do just that when they see static, they abuse it.

[wet breach]

as I said, I will check the implementation this weekend

[slender elbow]

i literally shared a godbolt link with the bytecode

[storm crystal]

Then just make one lol

[slender elbow]

feel free to scroll up

[lost matrix]

So we suggest them to not use static at all for a while until they fully understood the difference between classes and instances

[tender shard]

why? it's not needed

[tacit thistle]

do whatever you want to do, what matters is what the JLS and method contracts say