help-development

[echo basalt]

it's a problem similar enough to concurrency except synchronized doesn't exist

[noble flume]

Yea. So, multipaper recommends plugins with SQL data

Right?

But theres no guarentee it;d work

[echo basalt]

Yeah, that's so plugins can also share data with other instances of themselves

so if I leave on server A, that saves to the same database that server B is using

[noble flume]

So how buggy is multipaper?

[echo basalt]

never used it

[noble flume]

I've heard its super unstable

[orchid gazelle]

You can expect a lot of plugins to straight up not work on MultiPaper

stuff like WorldEdit might not, because yeah it would need to message other slaves for cross-server-region-editing

[noble flume]

Theres a fork of worldedit/worldguard on multipapers discord

as well as a bunch of other forks from different plugins

essx

tab

etc

[orchid gazelle]

Oh okay

[noble flume]

I mean would realistic seasons work?

I bought the plugin

And I'm just curious

[orchid gazelle]

I don't know that plugin

[noble flume]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/realisticseasons-1-16-3-1-20-2-seasons-in-your-minecraft-world-with-temperature-and-calendar.93275/

[orchid gazelle]

Sorry im not logged in with spigot on my smartphone

[noble flume]

seasons but in minecraft

idk

winter, summer, etc

[slender elbow]

Fortnite seasons

[wet breach]

easiest solution is to start removing stuff from the server that you don't need

like entities you are not making use of etc

[river oracle]

Minestom

Only add as little as possible

[grand flint]

What is this about? Like does spigot have something for it

[slender elbow]

Folia :aware:

[river oracle]

What's the folia vs minestom benchmark look like

Genuinely curious

[slender elbow]

I mean

they're completely different software

[river oracle]

Though folia and minestom are very different

They achieve different goals

[slender elbow]

very

[river oracle]

Ig depends what person wants you could prob go crazy with minestom

How many did you guys get in with folia during the test

[slender elbow]

1k

[river oracle]

Dayumm

Makes me wonder how much minestom could handle if you threw everything you could at it

Considering the server doesn't do much at all base

[slender elbow]

if you keep it at a minimum then, uh, a lot lol

but like yeah not doing anything is cheaper than doing everything

[wet breach]

Disappointing that 1k was the benchmark

[slender elbow]

they just target different things

[river oracle]

After I'm done with my spigot PR I might try to do some funky stuff with minestom

[wet breach]

One day i will release an implementation for load balancing

[river oracle]

Impl for what

[wet breach]

For load balancing

[river oracle]

For spigot?

Like what platform is what I meant

[wet breach]

Well it wouldnt be spigot nor could it

[slender elbow]

odd take

[torn oyster]

What is the event for a cactus being destroyed from a block being placed next to it

[floral drum]

Is it blockphysicsevent or some shit?

[torn oyster]

That partially fixes it because it doesnt destroy the cacti above/below it if cancelled but it still destroys the one directly next to it

[kind hatch]

Was the folia benchmark done on one server?

Cause if it was, 1K players online on one server sounds nuts.

That CPU must have gone through hell.

[slender elbow]

single server single CPU, yes

[floral drum]

gotta love 16 cores for that though

we just need a cpu with high clock speed + super high core count

[slender elbow]

https://cubxity.dev/blog/folia-test-june-2023

cubxity wanted to make a 3rd 10k test but due to reasons we ended up deciding to not

^ blog post with all the deets

[floral drum]

cmon ryzen make a 32 core cpu with the same clocks

[kind hatch]

Damn, you did it with the 6.1 kernel? Someone should rerun it with the 6.2 kernel as there was some AMD CPU bug in 6.1.

[floral drum]

I believe in you ryzen!

[kind hatch]

Ok, there it is. 10Gbps. Was also wondering how it was managing 1K connections.

[floral drum]

gotta love system stuttering

[floral drum]

pretty sure even 1-2Gbps could do that imo

well actually on later versions... nvm maybe not

[slender elbow]

the major bottleneck was initially not giving enough threads for netty

so everyone joining at the same time was fun in that aspect

[kind hatch]

Hmm, any plans to do another large scale test in the future?

You could probably get more performance out of a threadripper.

Or at the very least more cores.

[toxic lava]

Hey, is there any way to change the color of the players' nametag above their head?

[thin iris]

textdisplay

[slender elbow]

cubx was tempted to collab with other streamers but iirc leaf didn't really need any more profiling data

[orchid trout]

teams

[wet breach]

You can easily do 1k connections with just 25 megabits. In fact you could as high as 10k

But it depends how much data is going through at any given time on those connections

[somber night]

i got the asset, pack.png, pack.mcmeta
in assets i got 2 folders, one with the textures, and one called "custom"
within "custom" there's another nmed "sound" and the .json file
within "sound" therer are the 2 custom sounds

[hybrid turret]

I'm a bit confused, the commands a player does not have permission to execute won't be shown to them/the server will say "unknown command"?

What is the permission message for then??

[eternal oxide]

unknown command is when a command does not exist. the command permission message is what is sent when the command DOES exist but you don't have the permission

[hybrid turret]

yeah

the command exists

but when i remove op permissions only the commands that don't have permissions assigned to them in the plugin.yml is shown

when i op myself again, they're all there

[eternal oxide]

you have to grant permissions

op gets all default permissions

[hybrid turret]

i want to test the state of not having permissions lol

op gets * permissions

if i op myself i have all permissions.

[eternal oxide]

then you need a permission plugin

[hybrid turret]

nO

[eternal oxide]

• is not a permission

/* is not a permission

[hybrid turret]

yes it is. i've been doing this for quite a long time. i just changed some things

before i checked for permission in the command and sent a permission message

[eternal oxide]

* is not a permission that is recognised by Spigot/Bukkit

[hybrid turret]

now i have the permission added in the plugin.yml

why does it work then?

[eternal oxide]

what permission plugin?

[hybrid turret]

idk if LuckPerms parses it or sum but it does work

[eternal oxide]

yes LP parses * as a wildcard

[hybrid turret]

anyway, that's not really the problem. The problem is:
The command exists 100%, if i have the needed permission, it's there, if not it's now shown

[eternal oxide]

thats teh correct behavior

[hybrid turret]

why tho

why does the permission message exist then?

[eternal oxide]

if you don;t have the permission it's not sent in teh command tab packet

you are confusing op and permissions

teh command message works just fine

[hybrid turret]

i tested it with op, i tested it with permissions.

is it bc i set the permissionMessage in the onEnable?? That wouldn't make sense but it's the only thing i can think of

[eternal oxide]

possibly

set it in your plugin.yml and test

if it works in your plugin.yml and not when you set manually, test it without LP

its probably LP reading the permissions before you set teh command message

as LP uses reflection to set/process the Permissible object

[hybrid turret]

oh can i set the load order?

iirc lp is loaded before my plugin

[eternal oxide]

not really

[hybrid turret]

damn it

[eternal oxide]

lp shoudl load before your plugin

[hybrid turret]

oh okay

[eternal oxide]

what you could do...

[hybrid turret]

same thing when i set it in plugin.yml :/

[eternal oxide]

set your command message in onLoad not in onEnable

[hybrid turret]

hmm that's an idea ig

[eternal oxide]

if you set teh message in your plugin.yml and it still didn;t work then setting in onLoad will not work either

from the sounds of it you have an LP issue

[hybrid turret]

b r u h, shit plugin then xD

imma unload luckperms and try again

[vast raven]

https://paste.md-5.net/ovavepehay.cs

mhhh performant

[hybrid turret]

damn, luckperms wasn't the issue either

[vast raven]

what's your issue?

[hybrid turret]

-->

[vast raven]

So you're problem is the presence of an existing command that doesn't work and says unknown command, isn't it?

[hybrid turret]

yesnt

everything works fine, as long as i have the permission to execute the command

once i take the permission away it's like the command is removed

and that doesn't make sense

[vast raven]

is it a plugin of yours?

[hybrid turret]

wym by that?

it's a command in my plugin, yes

[vast raven]

Ok, send the plugin.yml

[hybrid turret]

i mean it does the same with minecraft commands

i imagine it's intended

but it's dumb

[vast raven]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[hybrid turret]

eeh

all commands are made the same way

  heal:
    aliases: [ ]
    description: "Heal yourself and other Players."
    usage: "/<label> [Player]"
    permission: "serversystem.heal"

[vast raven]

send the whole file

[hybrid turret]

why do u need the whole file?

[vast raven]

I mean, paste it here

[hybrid turret]

mh fine

https://paste.md-5.net/epekinuroq.http

[vast raven]

jez

which is the command you are having issues with?

[hybrid turret]

all of em ig? lol

even if i add the permission-message in there it does the same thing

[vast raven]

btw why would you put an empty array of aliases?

[hybrid turret]

layout reasons idk

copy-paste

does it matter tho?

[vast raven]

I would never do it

Btw

[hybrid turret]

they are all written the same (except the last to, forgot the permission)

[vast raven]

Did you registered them?

[hybrid turret]

yes.

[vast raven]

And does the plugin starts too?

[hybrid turret]

yes.

as i said, if i have the permission, it works fine

[vast raven]

Any exceptions?

[hybrid turret]

nope

none

[vast raven]

ah okok

so you're trying to change the insufficient permission message?

[hybrid turret]

yes

[vast raven]

Ok

Try this:

permissions.
the.permission:
message: "you don't have the required permissions bla bla"

[hybrid turret]

before i tested it in the command with

if (!sender.hasPermission(<permission here>)) {
  sender.sendMessage(<permission message here>);
  return true;
}

Now a couple weeks ago, I asked here on the dc if I can remove those checks and just add the permission: "<permission>" and I set the permission Message onEnable bc of colors

[vast raven]

Idk how to use code format on discord mobile sorry 🥲

[hybrid turret]

backtick

same as on pc

```
code
```

[vast raven]

btw I never put them on the plugin.yml 'cause I organise project in commands with each permission in code

try mine

[vast raven]

^

[hybrid turret]

i mean that won't make sense really, would it?

[eternal oxide]

Seems you are correct. Somthign changed. You no longer receive the usage message when you don;t have the permission

[hybrid turret]

bc i set the permission custom

[vast raven]

I prefer manage the permissions in code

[hybrid turret]

that's so stupid 💀

[hybrid turret]

i did too, but the code is cleaner if the permission check isn't needed anymore

[vast raven]

If you still want to use the plugin.yml approach try that

[hybrid turret]

and the permission message is always the same

which is set onEnable

[eternal oxide]

you don;t need a permission check at all, just set a command executor

[hybrid turret]

huh?

[vast raven]

well then you can achieve this using a super with an abstract class

[hybrid turret]

that sounds unneccesarily complicated

[eternal oxide]

so long as each command has it's own executor you don;t need any permission check

[vast raven]

wdym

[hybrid turret]

yeah i know, if you add the permission in the plugin.yml

[eternal oxide]

if you are using a generic onCommand in your plugins main class you do

[hybrid turret]

aint no way ppl do that

[vast raven]

that's on you

[eternal oxide]

the correct way is each command has its own executor

[vast raven]

try my snippet

[hybrid turret]

i mean i could just change it back to the permission check but yeah mh idk if i want to lol

[vast raven]

btw I heard folia has a constructor in the main plugin and not a onEnable method

[hybrid turret]

it's just stupid, that it was changed

[eternal oxide]

I guess it changed when they added updateCommands()

[vast raven]

bro just use that snipett I sent you and then let us know if it has worked

[hybrid turret]

i mean fine

[eternal oxide]

if you add the permission in the plugin.yml on the command your onCommand will never be called if they don;t have the permission

thats how its always worked

[vast raven]

uh

[eternal oxide]

the only thing that has changed is the usage message is no longer sent

[vast raven]

I've heard you can change its permission message

[hybrid turret]

there is no message key 💀

[hybrid turret]

damn that's stupid

[eternal oxide]

usage is only sent if you error in the onCommand or return false

[hybrid turret]

is it a bug tho?

[vast raven]

ok just use a commandExecutor

forget about that

[hybrid turret]

i- what

[vast raven]

if it is actually that bad you can still use a command library such as acf

[eternal oxide]

if you have no permission it treats you as not having teh command so you get no help on it either

[hybrid turret]

i mean ig i'll just set it back to the permission check

[vast raven]

that's the solution

[eternal oxide]

the way it is now is correct behavior

[hybrid turret]

which is why the permission check is supposed to be the very first thing u check

which is kinda stupid :(

[eternal oxide]

it's working perfectly

[vast raven]

if it is called many times you can still manage it using an abstract handling

[hybrid turret]

i want clean messages and not a pure red message like this

[vast raven]

and each subclasses has an own permission

[eternal oxide]

that red message is correct

[hybrid turret]

yeah but not what i want lmao

fck spigot ngl 💀

[eternal oxide]

if you don;t have the permission you shoudl not get any informational messages on that command

if you fake it then players can discover commands they should not know about

[hybrid turret]

i mean they can discover it, they will just receive the permission message every time

[eternal oxide]

until they find it, use a hacked client and access the command anyway

[hybrid turret]

so also, i'm guessing

command.setPermissionMessage(<permission message>) is just useless now?

[eternal oxide]

exploits exist

[hybrid turret]

i mean i can imagine that a hacked client will find all the commands anyway, no?

or is this prevented by not even sending the info that the command exists

[eternal oxide]

unknown

well yes

no permission these days means the client is never informed of the command

[hybrid turret]

hmm i gues fine then, for security reasons i will just remove the permission message :(

[vast raven]

egar do you know anything about the bukkit raytraceblocks method?

[eternal oxide]

know like?

[vast raven]

it is very clear actually but I can't achieve my result sometimes due wrong raytrace results

such as very close players

[eternal oxide]

um rayTraceBlocks doesn;t detect players

[vast raven]

yep but I use it to create a NametagHider plugin

If it finds a block midway it doesn't show the player tagname

[eternal oxide]

you'd need to explain your issue

[solar mortar]

Anyone know why I can’t import the hickaricp library? I added it to my Pom, and reloaded and clean my project and still won’t import

[vast raven]

Have you imported the repository?

[solar mortar]

Developing

[vast raven]

I'll do it 3m

[solar mortar]

And yes I have

Wait what

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[solar mortar]

What repository?

https://paste.md-5.net/milurumogo.xml

[vast raven]

like sonatype

I don't remember actually

[solar mortar]

Hmm

I’m lost to why this isn’t loading

[upper hazel]

i try save inventory in string format but some reason items not loads

i was get empty inventory

[pseudo hazel]

and the data?

[upper hazel]

data not null

inventory too

but items in data

not exists

i mean

exists but not loaded

I had to come up with my own serialization

[pseudo hazel]

which is what

like what does data look like

[lost matrix]

Why strings? Do you use yml files?

[lost matrix]

Write inventory to FileConfig:

    FileConfiguration configuration = ...;
    Inventory inventory = ...;
    List<ItemStack> items = Arrays.asList(inventory.getContents());
    configuration.set("some.items", items);

Load inventory from FileConfig:

    FileConfiguration configuration = ...;
    Inventory inventory = ...;
    List<ItemStack> items = (List<ItemStack>) configuration.getList("some.items");
    inventory.setContents(items.toArray(new ItemStack[0]));

[molten hearth]

Does anyone know what the client expects as reply to the handshake here

[lost matrix]

I think handshake just tells the server to get into login state for this connection

[wet breach]

Well the first part is client to server. The server just acknowledges with state set to 2

[molten hearth]

Yeah but the client isn't sending a login start so I'm guessing it's waiting for a reply

[lost matrix]

Just an TCP ACK

[wet breach]

It only should be an ack

What smile said

[molten hearth]

Alright ill figure out how to do dat tx

[wet breach]

It should be automatic

[lost matrix]

I mean... yeah

What frostalf said

[molten hearth]

Yeah well that's what I thought

[wet breach]

Server doesnt do anything until step 3 lol

[molten hearth]

But idk even in the status handshake apparently the client didn't expect anything yet I found out it in fact wanted something

[wet breach]

Well handshake should be tcp protocol level. If ack comes back client should set state to 2 and proceed

It wouldnt make sense to implement a handshake at packet level unless you wanted to tell the client something. But server doesnt say anything until client sends step 2 and step 3 is server response

[molten hearth]

I mean the handshake has a custom packet so I don't see why not implement it on a protocol level

Yeah well i need to implement their protocol lol

atm I implemented the pinging and now im implementign the login sequence

[wet breach]

You could always just look at the source code

[molten hearth]

where does one find the vanilla jar src?

[wet breach]

Mojang has their auth lib on their github as open source

[molten hearth]

oh tx

yeah but

the vanilla client seems to hang at handshake.sendPacket for me

it seems to be waiting for something

im quite sure node automatically sends acks but ill have a look

[lost matrix]

Are you implementing a client or a server?

[molten hearth]

server

yeah I mean your client seems to follow a similar login sequence anyway

it should be 1) Send Handshake, 2) Send Login Start, then continue

but atm im receiving 1) Send Handshake, 😴

[quaint mantle]

Mobile coding? Bruh......

[molten hearth]

yeah I mean I have the login packet decoded

I can detect the client changed states to login

then the client just goes to sleep

lol

[lost matrix]

Then you dont properly end the TCP conv

[molten hearth]

wait im supposed to end the TCP conversation?

but then I just disconnect the client

lol

[lost matrix]

Usually this happens automatically *If you properly use the socket or whichever lib you are using

[molten hearth]

that doesnt seem like an epic gamer move

hmm

ill have a look

yeah no im pretty sure the ack is sent

[lost matrix]

Are you sure the next packet isnt sent by the client? Maybe its a problem further down the chain.

[molten hearth]

yeah i mean not even the wireshark dump is showing any further communication

o wait

im just dumb hold up

i sent the wrong dump

LOL

o shit theres quite a bit of shit going on

wait what now im receiving the packet

okay then

thanks i guess 😭

or am I

yeah well its a bit hard when the minecraft client shits itself one second

yeah no okay it works now

i guess i was gettign scuffed results

thankz

lol ty

I need blessing to get through this 💯

[errant narwhal]

hi i want to create the AttributeInstance to put it with attributeBase to my AttributeMap but i don't know what is consumer<AttributeInstance> somebody help

i am using nms mojang remapped 1.20.1

[halcyon hemlock]

What the hell is that light mode editor

[full laurel]

Eclipse

[halcyon hemlock]

What are you making? Client or Server?

[halcyon hemlock]

I'd recommend using intellij unless you are using eclipse because of preference or something

[full laurel]

I use IntelliJ, I simply answered your question

[molten hearth]

server

[full laurel]

The screenshot is not mine

[eternal oxide]

looks like a Consumer so you can edit the AttributeInstance after creation

[errant narwhal]

so what can i put in bro?

[eternal oxide]

a lambda

[shadow night]

How do lambdas work

In js lambdas are just the same as making a function, because function is a type there

[eternal oxide]

a lambda is an anonymous function

[shadow night]

And that means

[eternal oxide]

https://www.w3schools.com/java/java_lambda.asp

[shadow night]

void lambda

[wet breach]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25192108/what-is-the-breakdown-for-javas-lambda-syntax

first answer breaks it down really well

[lilac dagger]

what i didn't understood yet is how java can treat lambda methods as objects

[wet breach]

well it depends

() -> 2 for example makes sense to treat as an object because it returns a primitive or integer if you want it in object form. Also can be typed as () -> {return 2;}

[hybrid spoke]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17913409/what-is-a-sam-type-in-java

[lilac dagger]

i see

[wet breach]

thing you have to be careful with lambdas is that Java infers the context of what it is you are trying to do

so you can for example go wrong with a chain of lambda's because java chose the wrong context XD

[frank kettle]

Has anyone played around with custom items and "buffs" they may give to the player and can tell me which way to track this items would be the best?

I'm now implementing something on my server that will play around craftiny custom weapons and tools that will increase damage towards the world boss, and toold that can collect more stuff when breaking ores or trees.

So what would be the best way to check for this items? Like, everytime someone does damage to the world boss, I ran a for on the Lore Item and check if the weapon used had a lore like "+1 Extra World Boss Damage" or something like that

My problem with this is worrying if with every spam clicking damage and many players this will have some impact on the server and cause lag.

My other idea was creating an enum of items and their damage, and when a person damages something, a specific line of lore has an ID for this enum list of items and gets their damage output right away.

Or is there different better ways? 🤔

[hybrid spoke]

PDC probably

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[hybrid spoke]

now where i read to end, not probably

thats your way to go

[echo basalt]

Ehh somewhat

I've done it through multiple ways before

[wet breach]

create a wrapper for ItemStacks making use of PDC. The reason for using a wrapper is it will make it easier to feed and obtain appropriate data you are wanting. No different then creating a player wrapper when you want to have the player object to hold custom data 😉

[echo basalt]

a recent one was having an "effects" system where, for example, a "BossDamageEffect" just registers a listener that checks if the target matches our criteria and adds however much it needs to

I've also made itemstack wrappers

[lost matrix]

Iterating over all items in each event is a bit more expensive than having a class which tracks your buffs and
changes when the player changes his armor or active item. The main problem with this approach are dynamically
updated items. It requires you to precisely check when any equipment changes and do a recalculation of your stats.

Other than that: Do what the others suggested and tag items with a PDC. Never use player-visible properties for custom
item detection.

[echo basalt]

I used to exploit the fuck out of slimefun by using /rename commands to make myself alloys :)

[wet breach]

lol

[echo basalt]

think I got banned like 9x on that server

[lost matrix]

I mean... Yeah.

[frank kettle]

The item will still have the Lore informing the buffs it has, I was just worried about using it as a check.

I'll look into PDC, looks like what I need

Thanks for the info

[echo basalt]

I honestly like doing client-sided lore for stuff like this

allows you to easily change it across the entire server in case you want to rename stuff

[frank kettle]

Items can be dropped and sold on the market place, wouldn't that be affected? I would need to make another check for which item it is and then have it set that lore to that item for whenever that player drops it another or sells it, right?

[lost matrix]

If you want to be really clean with the information on your items:
Dont change the name or lore at all.

Read outgoing item packets and update how they look like before they get sent to the client.
This way you can change the design, look, format etc in later updates, without having to touch
already existing items at all 🙂

[frank kettle]

Oh wait, yeha

🤔

[echo basalt]

For client-sided lore there are a few points to keep in mind

[frank kettle]

Need to think really well on what exactly I want

[echo basalt]

You have 2 packets to handle:

• Window items (list of all the itemstacls + cursor, make sure to handle the cursor)
• Set slot

If you're on creative and you make a copy of the item, it actually copies the lore (go figure)

So what I've done in the past was to build the lore list, remove it from the real item if needed and apply it to the fake item

[lost matrix]

One thing right away:
Just dont touch the items in creative. You will create a mess bc the client has authority and will create scuffed lores/names.

[echo basalt]

just process it :p

[frank kettle]

I think for what I want to do, I won't need to do client side lore

[lost matrix]

Nah. Creative was out of question on production servers so we didnt bother.

[frank kettle]

Since the items will be costumizable, every item can be unique

[echo basalt]

last time I did this was on a youtuber server so sometimes they want to record videos on creative or copy items

[frank kettle]

The buffs can be applied, improved and removed.

[echo basalt]

it was also like 3 years ago

[frank kettle]

I think client side lore seems to not be what I want

[lost matrix]

I was thinking about getting into the youtuber scene. Seeing your work in videos must be very rewarding.
Not sure how to get connections going tho. There are probably some teams for hire out there.

[echo basalt]

it's not that great

[frank kettle]

I saw some youtubers post on the forum asking for devs to create custom mods and it seemed pretty not rewarding 💀 they were paying way below and asking for so many hours and never consistent.

[echo basalt]

• pay is mediocre, deadlines are tight sometimes
• you don't really have fun in the job as it's all very visual and there are no data structures, no databases no nothing
• you usually start over on every project
• little job security, I've had youtubers do multiple breaks after a couple projects
• no credit for your work, no one knows it was you

I've done work for 10-20 vids

[wet breach]

it can be sometimes. Server tutorial at one point made it into a couple of youtube videos, and so did HoloAPI 🙂

[hybrid spoke]

not worth it tbh

cool for the first few things but then it gets boring and monotonous

i find it cooler when random big ass servers are using your plugins

since they are usually very supportive

[wet breach]

typically in this scenario neither party pays because its a mutual benefit. However, I have never had anyone ask me to specifically make something for doing youtube or whatever. Rather both plugins I mentioned above some were just doing reviews of plugins they thought were interesting or cool and occasionally we got asked some questions when they couldn't figure something out in regards to setting it up.

[echo basalt]

I personally enjoy doing large-scale projects

If you're working on a team you get great contacts with lots of experience

and if you're doing by yourself you learn a lot beyond spigot that can be applicable in other niche industries

Also people respect you because you're not doing monkey work, you're actually bashing your head against the wall and you become irreplaceable

[frank kettle]

I wish to work on large-scale projects to improve my knowledge but every forum post I see asks for "great knowledge of NMS" and I'm kinda new to it and afraid to message at all

[echo basalt]

nms isn't hard, ppl have no clue what they're saying when they ask for it

[hybrid spoke]

just shoot your shot

[echo basalt]

we use it maybe like 2% of the time

Or well

You write a big system that needs it and never touch it again

[wet breach]

its weird for someone to ask for this really. Most servers who ask for this, actually would make due with a custom server instead. That is just modify the server code instea of messing with NMS lmao

[echo basalt]

That's for big big servers

I hate working on forks

the process is always annoying

[quaint mantle]

Hi is there a way to get all nms

Names

Per version 🐹

[hybrid spoke]

ah wasnt there this sandal link

[echo basalt]

pull these 2 scripts, wonder why it needs that one specific jdk version, repatch etc

?mappings

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.cephx.dev

[quaint mantle]

No

I want to get it, not make a list manually

[echo basalt]

just like

what you need this for

[quaint mantle]

Reflection

[hybrid spoke]

https://nms.screamingsandals.org/

[quaint mantle]

Bad /old

[echo basalt]

bro wants to pull the mappings file directly from mojank's cdn and make magic

what's stopping you from making a multi-module project

[slender elbow]

reflection-remapper in shambles

[quaint mantle]

Yes

[lilac dagger]

Is this a thing?

Sounds pretty cool

[quaint mantle]

Can’t use the thingy

Of spigot nor paperweight

[wet breach]

thingy o.O

[slender elbow]

not paperweight

it is partly a gradle plugin
https://github.com/jpenilla/reflection-remapper

nvm it isn't

cool

[wet breach]

most of the time not even necessary though

[worldly ingot]

I've worked for content creators in the past. The only good thing about it is that pay is guaranteed. They have money so you don't have to worry about, say, a server not getting enough purchases in their store or something

Everything else is pretty much a downside. The tight deadlines are abysmal. Content brain is so bad to work with

[young knoll]

Content brain?

[worldly ingot]

Has to be done in < 1 week time, if you're lucky, and then they make last minute changes

[wet breach]

I think the other advantage if its a decent channel, is you get your name out there/displayed

[worldly ingot]

lol no

Never once

[young knoll]

Nah why would they do that

[worldly ingot]

Only time I see devs shouted out is if it's a dev-run channel, because it's them

[wet breach]

well if its just purely money you are after then sure I guess that works, otherwise I wouldn't bother with such channels

waste of time if they don't properly give credit for whatever it is

[young knoll]

Smallant tends to shout out his devs

[lost matrix]

Meh

[worldly ingot]

The tight deadlines and last minute changes make it a terrible job

[young knoll]

I think he’s the only one I’ve seen do it

[worldly ingot]

They usually have no concept of how long it takes to make something worth presenting

No matter how many times you tell them

content brain

[slender elbow]

you'd think that a content creator would know about that out of everyone

[worldly ingot]

You would think huh?

[slender elbow]

sure

[wet breach]

There is plenty that do, but I guess it depends on your purpose if you want to cater to them. If its money, as Choco said typically not an issue. However, if I was to do anything for a youtube channel it would be purely for the free advertisement to make connections later

[worldly ingot]

I have yet to have that experience

[slender elbow]

yeah i mean

[young knoll]

Wonder how much money you could make with a marketplace team

Just shoving random shit on the bedrock marketplace

[slender elbow]

you'd think that they have gone through the experience of spending weeks if not months to create a really good video, but that just depeds on the type of content they want to present

if it's just a content farm channel, 🤮

something something quality quantity

[young knoll]

gamefreak has entered the chat

[echo basalt]

Only works if they're big youtubers

I have a friend doing work for smaller ~1-50k sub youtubers and they take weeks to pay

[worldly ingot]

I've worked for creators with 6 million and with 3 million

[echo basalt]

I've worked for creators between 1 - 15M

[worldly ingot]

If it's a channel geared towards a younger demographic, it's usually a content farm lol

[slender elbow]

oh yeah ofc

[echo basalt]

There's a lot of money flowing but you can never really take pride in your quality

Had to make like 20 custom items with particles and vector math in like 2 days for 150 bucks

Or sometimes they ask for stuff that you know will just blow up the server

like an item that when clicked makes a 200x200 hole or something

bro thinks I work 24/7

other times the content is super easy and boring and pays well

I've made 100$ for a plugin where you'd die if you touched the floor

so it was just a material whitelist

[wet breach]

can thank India and Brazil for this

[hushed scaffold]

Great feature if i could id add it to hypixel lobbies for free

[echo basalt]

unrealistic expectations everywhere

"you heal if you're looking at the sun" and I'm like

[subtle folio]

imillusion where the hell do you get jobs

i made a whole minigame for 20$ 😭

[hushed scaffold]

Fr

[echo basalt]

you do realize the sun looks bigger when straight ahead and smaller when directly above you, with a really annoying picky mathemathical model

[echo basalt]

I've made one for 45 bucks before

[subtle folio]

im going to built by bukkit

[wet breach]

I mean I guess, but I would never do this because my reputation I have built is based on quality and you can't guarantee quality like this

[echo basalt]

I've also made like this minigame event core for like 600 bucks

[wet breach]

nope

[echo basalt]

nah

[wet breach]

I have too much integrity for that

[slender elbow]

bahahaha

[echo basalt]

but tbf you need to learn to value your work and try to stay within ~80% range of your estimated hourly rate

[wet breach]

why for such a low price?

I mean I guess if it was easy or simple sure

[subtle folio]

im a straving child

[hushed scaffold]

Money is money

[subtle folio]

incredibly

[echo basalt]

So if you want 20$/hr, you'd estimate the number of hours and aim to go over at most, 20%

or however many you need to still be over 16/hr

[wet breach]

best bet is to find a few servers to work as a dedicated dev to do things for them

[echo basalt]

BBB is a hella toxic hypercompetitive environment

I avoid it

[subtle folio]

ohok

[echo basalt]

5$ ploogin with like 8 replies in 2 hours

where they ask you for your website n shit in order to make a /help command

with a ton of people with more marketing experience than development experience

Everyone I know that has a proper budget runs their own team

[subtle folio]

where

[echo basalt]

And reach out to devs they like with real offers

[wet breach]

and don't under sell yourself or try not to. However do note the more you intend to charge you should at the very least ensure quality matches. Doesn't have to be perfect but it should match whatever they are paying XD

[subtle folio]

yeah no kidding 🤣

[echo basalt]

this is how I get 80% of my work now

[wet breach]

in the business world, favortism is the game

[hybrid spoke]

"So do you know how to make a bedwars plugin? I can give you a vouch for that!"

[hushed scaffold]

"i only know scratch sorry"

[young knoll]

You work for exposure right?

[echo basalt]

lol no

[hushed scaffold]

"ill give you a rank on my server"

[wet breach]

doesn't matter, businesses make it obvious all the time. The way you compete with such things is connections. Connections are important. The more people you know that others also know, the better off you will be and your favortism starts to increase especially if you produce results 🙂

[echo basalt]

I have my own little minigame core so bedwars is probably ~5-10 hours of work to impl

[worldly ingot]

"You know coding languages?" Oh dear. Please tell me you didn't accept this

[echo basalt]

dude was just naive, doing a minigame for them

[young knoll]

Yeah I know a coding language or 2

[echo basalt]

they had bad experiences with other devs before so I gave them a little deal

[hushed scaffold]

Scratch and lua

[young knoll]

Skript and Byteskript

[echo basalt]

Speaking of, I'm going to a tech conference like 3 weeks from now for networking

[subtle folio]

anyone going to github universe?

[echo basalt]

it's like 2 hours away and I got free developer tickets

[wet breach]

You mentioned this, hope you make some decent connections there for yourself

[young knoll]

What's that guys name

With the plugin course

[echo basalt]

tickets there are going for 1.3k now

tommyinnit is giving a talk

[subtle folio]

stephen @young knoll

[echo basalt]

kangarko lmao

[young knoll]

Yeah that

[subtle folio]

oh

[young knoll]

Kangaroo man

[wet breach]

don't know who that is, not that I keep track of names really

[echo basalt]

cringe ytber

I'm thinking of doing like a little bingo game for fun

[subtle folio]

you should

[echo basalt]

with challenges such as "steal 8 pens" or "draw an evil moustache on someone"

[subtle folio]

"unrelated old comment"

[echo basalt]

"sneak into a stage"

[hushed scaffold]

I do those for free in school

[young knoll]

"Commit arson"

[echo basalt]

p sure binance was giving out free hoodies last year

[wet breach]

sneak into a booth and pretend you belong all the while knowing the product XD

[subtle folio]

whats wrong with jetbrains??

we ❤️ jetbrains

[echo basalt]

had a guy from a company called "datastax" invite me to have a 15min convo at their booth

[hushed scaffold]

Jetbrains made intellij right

[echo basalt]

about my work and stuff

[worldly ingot]

lol, pretty sure JetBrains will partner anyone that uses their products and has a company

[subtle folio]

yes

[young knoll]

I'll use their products if they partner me

[wet breach]

did you accept?

[echo basalt]

had like 3 different CEOs add me on their app

[wet breach]

I hope you did

[echo basalt]

eh sure why not

[hushed scaffold]

Id Die without intellij

[echo basalt]

about to blow my paycheck next week on housing

[wet breach]

they work a lot with the medical field just fyi

[hushed scaffold]

What that

[echo basalt]

they work a lot with AI

[wet breach]

that too

[hushed scaffold]

Is it better than intellij

[wet breach]

that is what the general channel is for

[hushed scaffold]

How what why

[wet breach]

and if you really wanted you could create a thread in here too

if you really want a dev general lol

[echo basalt]

yeah right now we're helping me develop connections with all the CEOs

I've had like 3 or 4 add me on their app

[wet breach]

maybe next year I will attend some conferences

[echo basalt]

see if you can get free tickets

I got mine by literally just linking my github to their website

[hushed scaffold]

I was about to Google it

[wet breach]

uh no, waste of time

[hushed scaffold]

Nope

[eternal night]

not that minecon still exists

[wet breach]

yeah its not overly difficult to get free tickets somewhere

[eternal night]

nah lol

[wet breach]

especially if you do it in advance

[echo basalt]

CEO of mozilla, VP of AI at amazon, mayor, prime minister, president, hotel chain ceos

[eternal night]

they announced minecraft festival in 2020 but it got clapped by covid and has yet to return

[echo basalt]

lot of ppl that are really good contacts

[river oracle]

minecraft festival is dead :(

[echo basalt]

and after the conference they do exclusive parties at night "where deals get done"

[wet breach]

I wouldn't mind getting in contact/meeting Mozilla CEO

the others I don't care about, except maybe the hotel chain one

hotel chain one is good if you want to do network related things as they always need someone to go repair that stuff lmao

[echo basalt]

CEO of neo4j

wtf is neo4j

lmao people talking about development in #general

[wet breach]

ACID compliant transactional database with native graphing storage and processing. basically its handy for anything involving graphs that are created or need to be created from the data or you need to combine graphs etc

[echo basalt]

oh fun they have roundtables where ppl talk about their product for an hour and you can ask them questions directly

[wet breach]

this is really awesome to participate in sometimes

other times can be boring if you get stuck at a table with boring products or stuff you really don't care about XD

[echo basalt]

thing is that I need to pick and choose what talks I want to attend because there's one every like 5 minutes in six different stages in this huge arena

[wet breach]

try to diversify the talks by category. Like one for networking, another for AI, maybe another for Aeronautics or whatever

[echo basalt]

uhh

[wet breach]

that is just examples

[echo basalt]

I'm attending one where dude talks about how we went from a minecraft youtuber and diversified into all sorts of industries

[wet breach]

I personally wouldn't prioritize that unless at that specific time there isn't anything else interesting lmao

[echo basalt]

well it's the one that most hits home

[wet breach]

well, idk who it is but its basically the audio version buy my book so I can tell you how to make millions

or sometimes they advertise their book on this topic during the talk

and don't really say all that much during the talk and just say generic things

hence why I said personally I wouldn't prioritize it, but if you want to go hear it then go for it 🙂

maybe it turns out to actually be interesting

however, I am going to laugh if they convinced you to buy a book XD

[echo basalt]

Nah there are no books, dude's legit going to talk about his side ventures

most of the schedule looks like this

[wet breach]

I would probably choose the social media one and the skills gap one

[echo basalt]

How to fix your shitty pitch

lmao

def going to that one

grr all the goofy ones are at the same time

[wet breach]

lol

[wet breach]

this might not be too bad

but I generally just ask my older brother since he has experience in marketing 😛

[echo basalt]

Added a few to my schedule

I should get to work if I want to afford this trip lma

[wet breach]

the two in the middle are probably boring

[echo basalt]

Filler content, there was nothing better

[wet breach]

the integrating your brand into games is actually pretty straight forward or should be. If you are having issues in how to integrate your brand into a particular game then odds are it probably doesn't belong there to begin with

[echo basalt]

I'm thinking of like having a destinct branding to your games that makes them peculiar type deal

Y'know your unique style

Rather than trying to mash two things together

[wet breach]

maybe, but then that means they didn't integrate their topic very well with the title

[echo basalt]

eh if it's boring I can just get up and leave

[wet breach]

I was just pointing out the irony 😛

[wooden hearth]

Hey with duration of being mute should I save the date and time and when they try and type keep checking until there time is up?

[quiet ice]

And what alternatives are out there?

Isn't that the same thing?

[wooden hearth]

Perfect just checking before I start doing anything as I’ve never done anything with duration lol

[quiet ice]

Like there is little difference between long, Instant and LocalDateTime

The main diff is OOP and Timezones, but that is negible

[wooden hearth]

I would get the time from the server

[quiet ice]

Hm? Shouldn't System.currentTimeMillis()/Instant.now()/LocaleDateTime.now() with </.isBefore suffice?

[uncut needle]

I figured out why

That tasks sometimes dont work

Dont cancel tasks on player leave event

it sometimes breaks

[wooden hearth]

Have you ever released a premium plugin before?

Just wondering if I need to do things in a certain way as I’m making a premium plugin

[subtle folio]

theres a level of quality that is expected

grules

[wooden hearth]

Thank you

Thank you, it’s not too bad then I’m guessing mcm is roughly the same

[river oracle]

do you meet the premiumplugin requirements?

[wooden hearth]

My plug-in ain’t finished yet but I would say so

[river oracle]

?premium these ones

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/premium-resource-guidelines.31667/

[wooden hearth]

Yeah it’s not a common plug-in I will provide updates and full support and it’s done in a good manor

[river oracle]

8 week old account
80 messages (forum posts) + 20 positive ratings
3 free resources
Two-step verification enabled

I'm more insinuating the forums requirements

lots of people forget about them

[wooden hearth]

Il have to check my messages but I have 3 free plugins already

[quaint mantle]

Hello im having an issue rn, i cant quite find a solution

    public void onBlockExplode(final BlockExplodeEvent event) {
        Material ExplodedBlock = event.getBlock().getType();
        Bukkit.broadcastMessage(ExplodedBlock.toString());
    }```


i cant actually find a way to check what the block that was exploded was

Like bed, respawn anchor

it just returns air

[wooden hearth]

You need to get the list of blocks what has been exploded look at the event api

[slender elbow]

that leaves a lot of room for false positives tho

this sucks lol

[wooden hearth]

I have another question if you brought a server core would you want a built in permissions system or use an external so like luckperms etc

[slender elbow]

i mean luckperms is extremely flexible, whatever "built in" means

[river oracle]

avoid actually using spigots direct permission API

you're best off Using Vault

or Luckperms API

you really shouldn't need to touch permissions a ton though

[wooden hearth]

Alright I’m just trying to get user input so I can make the plug-in more built around the users

[river oracle]

what are you doing that needs permissions anyways?

you can always just check Player#hasPermission

the only time you'd need an API is if you need to add and remove permissions which in most cases I can't see a reason a plugin would need to do this

unless well you're a permissions plugin

[chrome beacon]

I wouldn't rely on a single core plugin handling everything

[wooden hearth]

I was going to add something like setting permissions to players incase they wanted something extra to a player etc

[chrome beacon]

Personally I think core plugins are a bad idea

[orchid trout]

plugins that are like apis?

[river oracle]

seems like a job that really should be left to a permissions plugin

[wooden hearth]

Why tho, it dose most things in one plugin

[vital sandal]

hmm how could I do the math here?

[chrome beacon]

Core plugins as in plugins that try to do everything at once

[icy beacon]

Can I somehow see all subinterfaces of a class with IntelliJ? I think there was such an option, but I don't have it rn

[wooden hearth]

Alright thank you for your input

[orchid trout]

like permissions and punishments in one plugin?

[chrome beacon]

Yes

[orchid trout]

uh

dont look at my github

[chrome beacon]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[chrome beacon]

^^

[orchid trout]

'''

[river oracle]

he keeps post andkeeps deleting lol

[wooden hearth]

I know lol

[river oracle]

?codeblocks

well whatever

paste is better

[icy beacon]

?codeblock

[undone axle]

You can use the discord code block format to display code or just text in a more pleasing way:
```java
public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
@Override
public void onEnable() {

}

}```
Becomes:

public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {

    }
}```

[warm crater]

Hi what's wrong my code ```@EventHandler
public void Halálok(PlayerDeathEvent e) {
Player player = e.getEntity().getPlayer();
int deaths = 0;

    if (this.data.getConfig().contains("players." + player.getUniqueId().toString() + ".deaths"))
        deaths = this.data.getConfig().getInt("players." + player.getUniqueId().toString() + ".deaths");

    data.getConfig().set("players." + player.getUniqueId().toString() + ".deaths", (deaths + 1));
    data.saveConfig();

}

}```

[wooden hearth]

I use google before asking in here because there’s load of help using the spigot forum

[warm crater]

spam console with error message

[wooden hearth]

Ask yourself?

[icy beacon]

I don't know. What's wrong? What is not working? What is the error?

[chrome beacon]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[river oracle]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[icy beacon]

I'd assume that e.getEntity().getPlayer() is nullable

Maybe I'm wrong

Check the docs

[wooden hearth]

Could be the this.data is null

[icy beacon]

Yeah barely any info

[warm crater]

no

[chrome beacon]

Don't write to the file every player death

[wooden hearth]

What’s the error

[icy beacon]

^^

If you really want to track it without using statistics, cache it in some map that you load on startup and save on shutdown

[chrome beacon]

Just use statistics ^^

[warm crater]

Could not pass event PlayerDeathEvent to WorldCraft v1.0.0
org.bukkit.event.EventException: null
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader$1.execute(JavaPluginLoader.java:310) ~[spigot-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.RegisteredListener.callEvent(RegisteredListener.java:70) ~[spigot-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.fireEvent(SimplePluginManager.java:589) ~[spigot-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.callEvent(SimplePluginManager.java:576) ~[spigot-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.event.CraftEventFactory.callPlayerDeathEvent(CraftEventFactory.java:899) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.server.level.EntityPlayer.a(EntityPlayer.java:820) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.world.entity.EntityLiving.a(EntityLiving.java:1484) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.world.entity.player.EntityHuman.a(EntityHuman.java:936) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.server.level.EntityPlayer.a(EntityPlayer.java:978) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.world.entity.Entity.au(Entity.java:696) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]
at net.minecraft.world.entity.Entity.ao(Entity.java:623) ~[spigot-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:3871-Spigot-d2eba2c-3f9263b]

[chrome beacon]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[icy beacon]

I can see why one wouldn't, that's in case your plugin is supposed to work across worlds/servers

But if not, then absolutely statistics

[icy beacon]

Is this the full error? I can't find any traces to your plugin

Also

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/tutorial-how-to-read-stacktraces-solve-most-of-your-plugin-problems-by-yourself.48121/

[wooden hearth]

Maybe debug each variable aswell

[warm crater]

i fix it

ty

[icy beacon]

🤔

Good

[wooden hearth]

What was the issue

[warm crater]

e.getEntity can be a mob

[icy beacon]

Bump^

[wooden hearth]

Well yeah. Check the instance if it’s a player then run your code in that also always read the api of each event aswell

[river oracle]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42377330/intellij-idea-is-there-a-way-to-list-all-interfaces-implemented-by-a-class-and

If you haven't changed your hotkeys seems like Ctrl+H would work

[icy beacon]

I've seen this thread, but I'm not sure if this applies to also showing it in the docs so I haven't tried it

Ones ec

This only seems to be showing the superinterfaces, and it's also not in the docs (Ctrl+Q)

Nvm these are subinterfaces

Still not the most convenient placement haha

[river oracle]

unfortunately its not as esay as in the docs 🙁

[icy beacon]

I remember being able to see the subinterfaces in the docs window. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong 😄

So there's this cool shortcut Ctrl+Alt+B

Closest thing I could find

[river oracle]

oh that'd be nice for when I work with NMS

will keep that one in mind

especially since I changed my CTRL+H keybind lol

[icy beacon]

Identical behavior to this is holding Ctrl+Alt and LMBing the class, in case you need to do that multiple times on multiple classes 😛

[river oracle]

that's what I do currently

[icy beacon]

Alrighty

[glad prawn]

like this (T) new Double(t.doubleValue() + 1); instanceof check would be better

[vital sandal]

thank you (cam on)
although I found it a really stupid way to calculate

[river oracle]

lol I was kinda getting pissed when this wasn't working

forgot I use a modified combination of VSCode and Eclipse hotkeys

its f3 for me xD

[next stratus]

Hey, is there any reason why

    final Title.Times times = Title.Times.times(Duration.ofMillis(500), Duration.ofMillis(3000), Duration.ofMillis(1000));
    final Title title = Title.title(mainTitle, subTitle, times);

    audience.showTitle(title);

Isn't showing any titles?

[young knoll]

Hey that's not the spigot api

👀

[next stratus]

It's all the same 👀

[glad prawn]

no?

[lilac dagger]

looks like the problem comes from Title.title

or showTitle

[young knoll]

Spigot doesn't have adventure stuff

Our title system is much different

[lilac dagger]

i see

so someone is asking for help about paper on spigot

[young knoll]

In fact ours is just sendTitle(String, String, int, int, int)

[lilac dagger]

the Times class looks ugly

[slender elbow]

erm 🤓 ackshtually adventure is platform agnostic

[lilac dagger]

except it isn't on spigot

or is it as a lib?

[slender elbow]

lib yes

[lilac dagger]

oh i see

[slender elbow]

still the wrong place to ask lol

[lilac dagger]

ye

i mean people ask about help with plib

so not out of this world

[glad prawn]

lol

[orchid trout]

i use components for clickable chat

very cool

[lilac dagger]

to be honest most of the time people only pass a testcomponent

so why should we be forced is beyond me

waste of objects

[icy beacon]

Can anybody help me create a regex? I'm struggling to come up with one. I want to capture <c>, <e>, <h>, <k> (so basically any value encapsulated in angle brackets) with Regex, because I'm working on placeholders.
I've tried [.]*((<.+>)+)[.]* but it just captures everything between the first & last angle brackets (see screenshot, test case was a b <c> d <e> f g <h> i j <k> l m)

[lilac dagger]

alex could help you

[icy beacon]

I believe Alex is not available rn

[lilac dagger]

well, you can find him when he's online

[slender elbow]

.+?

[orchid trout]

isnt he in the hospital

[lilac dagger]

or guess emily knows

[icy beacon]

That's any character from 1 to unlimited times

[lilac dagger]

he's back isn't it?

[icy beacon]

If that's what you are asking

[slender elbow]

no, with the '?'

[icy beacon]

Afaik not

[orchid trout]

it

[icy beacon]

Oh, this does work, why does it work though?

What does it do

[slender elbow]

something something lazy parsing

non greedy or whatever

[icy beacon]

Haha, alrighty, thanks 🙂

[glad prawn]

? matches the previous token between zero and one times

[slender elbow]

not in that ctx

[icy beacon]

When together, they are combined it seems

[glad prawn]

ah this one

[slender elbow]

what happened

[orchid trout]

idk

check his about me

surgery or smt

[slender elbow]

oh

[icy beacon]

I think it's therapy

[slender elbow]

oh

[river oracle]

he's back now :3

@tender shard hiaaaa

[echo basalt]

avg mfnalex moment

[wet breach]

\<(.*?)\>

[icy beacon]

Oh yeah that seems like a better solution

Thx 🙂

[wet breach]

the only thing is, you might want to break up the string into an array everytime it encounters <

[icy beacon]

Is it?

[wet breach]

so maybe do a split on that character or the character before it

so it retains the diamond

then iterate the array with the regex

[icy beacon]

Yeah I'm still figuring out how exactly I'm going to be doing the placeholder system, I just got the general idea in my mind

[wet breach]

unfortunately don't think regex has anything to split the strings for you

or to do some kind of counting XD

[icy beacon]

I hope I'll figure it out swiftly haha

[young knoll]

That's what matcher is for

[slender elbow]

Pattern.split in shambles

[young knoll]

Ah

Yeah that works too

[icy beacon]

Actually last time I've used Regex was like 2 years ago so I forgot everything and I have 3 tabs open that have the kotlin regex & java regex docs lmao

Ok Baeldung let's see what you're cooking

[shadow night]

uh guys, a friend is asking me to make a plugin that adds cities with stuff, how possible is that considering the spigot api?

[covert valve]

woah thats really nice how have i never used that syntax

[icy beacon]

Sounds quite possible, depends on what exactly your friend (or you) need

[icy beacon]

Kotlin's syntax sugar is lovely 😄

[shadow night]

cities with npcs with ai and war and stuff

[icy beacon]

That sounds complicated but yeah you can do that

[covert valve]

its my favourite feature of the language. some people hate kotlin because there's fifteen ways to do the same thing but the stdlib is so nice that i can write code without having to think about how the language wants me to do things

[shadow night]

how hard is it tho

[icy beacon]

^^^^ I agree! I love how so much stuff is made to be easy and intuitive.

[covert valve]

other languages i always feel i have to worry about how the language wants me to write, kotlin bends to how I want to write

[tidal marlin]

Hello !
I try to use the PlayerInteractEvent event but when i right click on air with a fishing rod, i get two events :

• One with the action RIGHT_CLICK_AIR (correct)
• the other with the action LEFT_CLICK_AIR, but i don't left click and this second event comes only with a right-click on air with a fishing rod.
  Someone know if it's a bug or not ? And if it's not a bug, somebody knows how suppress this second event please ?

[covert valve]

that being said they absolutely could implement reified class generics with a bit of compiler hacks and they haven't. that pisses me off

[river oracle]

    public Inventory createInventory(InventoryHolder holder, MenuType<?> type) {
        if (type == MenuType.ANVIL) {
            return new CraftInventoryAnvil(null, new CraftInventoryAnvilSubContainer(2, holder), new InventoryCraftResult());
        }
        return null;
    }
``` this is so unbelievably cursed can't wait to expand this

[icy beacon]

I mean different aspects are harder than others. E.g. depending on what type of AI you need, it can take you a long time or a couple minutes/hours. The basic concept of cities should be easy, and as you add layers to it, it becomes more and more complex

[icy beacon]

Haha, true

[covert valve]

that doesn't look cursed?

[shadow night]

well, I'll see if I can do anything lol

[covert valve]

well

[river oracle]

well the cursed part is having to patch every container

[covert valve]

you could improve it by making each MenuType have an inventory factory

[icy beacon]

This looks very weird give me more

[icy beacon]

Happy coding!

[river oracle]

I'm not sure if this is easily possible when backing MenuType with the MC registry

considering that minecraft doesn't do that

they only have a containerFactory

[covert valve]

is MenuType a default MC thing?

[shadow night]

Thank you!

[river oracle]

yeah its called Containers with spigot maps IIRC but currently trying to fix Bukkits cursed system

[covert valve]

could make a big hashmap mapping meu types to factories and do it that way? would avoid doing a million if-else statements

[river oracle]

that's def the way to go

I already did that with Menus

[covert valve]

or wrap menu types and just use a decorator

[river oracle]

meh the former is probably more preferred within bukkit

[covert valve]

probably

[river oracle]

still it will be nice trying to get rid of CraftContainer

that class is actually cursed

[warped basin]

quick Q: how is world.getPlayers() sorted? is it by login order or something more arbitrary?

[river oracle]

depends what kind of list it is

let me look quick

[wet breach]

\<(.*?)\> ok I tested this and it should grab the content in the diamonds as groups

[icy beacon]

Yep, I tested it with regex101 as soon as you sent it

It should be working fine

[wet breach]

so you could use the regex to then create a string array and that array should be all the content you are looking for 🙂

[river oracle]

its seems like login order may influence the order, but Don't rely on it

[wet breach]

its by login

[warped basin]

gotcha, I was hoping it would do the leg work for me since I'm making a board game map that relies on turn order. oh well lol

doing it myself is pretty easy anyway so no biggie

[river oracle]

it might be pretty reliable actually

I don't think anything else adds to it

[warped basin]

oop

interesting

[wet breach]

don't think its mutable either

well, doesn't return a mutable collection that is

[river oracle]

well its not mutated by bukkit

bukkit copies the list

[wet breach]

ah well there you go

yeah nothing else should really touch that list, only thing is I believe fake players may show up in it?

don't remember

[warped basin]

but there's still a chance there's something at a lower level that might affect it, I take it?

[river oracle]

only if there are fake players

[young knoll]

I think there is a setting to shuffle players

[wet breach]

but that should only affect the tab list right

?

[wet breach]

didn't know spigot added that

[river oracle]

@warped basin either way the proper way to track player turns should be kept by you i'd say its initially adventageous for you to use the player list given the aformentioned setting isn't on

[icy beacon]

Do you have any idea on how I could do this? Struggling for no reason lol

Can't figure out the fallback

[lost matrix]

how about you return the fallback and not a Type...

Like...

[warped basin]

I think I'm gonna use my own system to determine the turn order just to be ultra safe, don't wanna run into any weird bugs later down the line because of it

[icy beacon]

Oh

Lmao

Yeah I think I need some sleep

Thanks smile

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-sad-what-is-sleep-no-sleep-gif-17598623

[covert valve]

return falback not T

[lost matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-free-microsoft-windows95-globe-gif-25756375

[icy beacon]

Yup got it already 😄

[covert valve]

probably better to implement it by making an enumValueOfOrNull<T>(name) and defaulting with ?:

[icy beacon]

Oh yeah perhaps

Is that a thing though? I don't see it

[covert valve]

no its not, but just make it

[icy beacon]

Lucky me

Yeah this looks cleaner

And how about safeValueLenient which capitalizes your string automatically lmao

I don't need it rn but it sounds funny

[covert valve]

cant believe that already exists i reimplemented that myself i am so dumb

[icy beacon]

It does?

[covert valve]

did you just write that

[icy beacon]

Yeah

[covert valve]

i thought it was stdlib nevermind

[icy beacon]

Lol

I wrote safeValue like a week ago

And today I decided I needed a fallback method as well

[covert valve]

also for KDoc you dont use @param and stuff like that you use [paramName]

[icy beacon]

For sheer convenience