I do not
#help-development
young knoll
kind hatch
It feels wrong to do so
echo basalt
the internet doesn't really synchronize and most of it just fails to work
like fr who the fuck is your target audience
young knoll
Thankfully your computer pulls time from the internet
echo basalt
don't write filler plugins just for the sake of publishing shit
average vk2pgz moment
kind hatch
Thankfully your computer pulls time from the internet
Ah the wonders of the Atomic Clock
young knoll
But what if those are wrong!
echo basalt
ok himothy him
kind hatch
What'd you give? List of contributions now.
vagrant stratus
You haven't really given much, tbh
echo basalt
goddamn I must've designed humanity if you did that much with just 6x 5 minute plugins
young knoll
But what if those are wrong!
You never know when the physical properties of a caesium 133 will change
echo basalt
what are my countless guides into advanced topics, such as multithreading, completablefutures or static abuse compared to "Pi", which displays a hardcoded message when you run a command
Just have high standards for yourself for a moment
kind hatch
You got a multithreading topic?
vagrant stratus
Honestly pi just feels like something someone would add just to meet the premium plugin requirements
echo basalt
and what solutions we use in the real world (synchronization, queues)
echo basalt
just look for this and give it a read
kind hatch
and what solutions we use in the real world (synchronization, queues)
You think it's good enough to apply to databases?
vagrant stratus
No one seriously goes I want to run Spigot on my phone
echo basalt
You think it's good enough to apply to databases?
ehh databases are wack
vagrant stratus
eh
echo basalt
no clue how you want yours to work
The usual approach is just to make an interface and your own 19 impls
kind hatch
Yea, but then I end up with a bunch of empty methods that don't do anything in certain impls
vagrant stratus
You just make a fake player sleep, of which there are multiple threads I'm sure of
echo basalt
something stupid like
public interface MyDataStorage {
CompletableFuture<Boolean> tryEnable(ConfigurationSection properties);
CompletableFuture<MyData> fetchData(UUID playerId);
CompletableFuture<Void> storeData(UUID playerId, MyData data);
CompletableFuture<Void> deleteData(UUID playerId);
CompletableFuture<Void> flush(); // Can be replaced with an executor. Join this onDisable
String getName();
}
And some other stupid stuff for remote databases n stuff
And then you have a registry where you toss all of them in and handle fallbacks n stuff
vagrant stratus
essentials? Massive contribution to the minecraft community as a whole
https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/spigot-plugin-development.52/?prefix_id=48
quite a few of these are huge contributions too
echo basalt
public class MyStorageRegistry {
private final Map<String, MyDataStorage> storages = new ConcurrentHashMap<>();
private String chosenStorageName;
public void register(MyDataStorage storage) {
storages.put(storage.getName(), storage);
}
public MyDataStorage get(String name) {
return storages.get(name); // You should probably validate that `name` isn't null
}
public CompletableFuture<Boolean> tryEnable(FileConfiguration config) {
chosenStorageName = config.getString("preferred");
...
}
}
I have a fallback system for example
In case mysql fails to load it automatically falls back to sqlite
y'know it's really up to you
vagrant stratus
essentials? Massive contribution to the minecraft community as a whole
<https://...
a plugin which print PI? Honestly, it's only a contribution to the already massive amount of poor quality resources on spigot
kind hatch
:3 https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/using-influxdb-and-grafana-for-internal-metr...
I got some work ahead of me then. :p
I'm trying to make a multi-database system that will also have a fallback to regular flat file storage. (Mainly cause I haven't completed the sqlite impl)
I just think I could be doing better, but don't exactly know how to fix it yet.
young knoll
You can make life less painful by just supporting like
echo basalt
because it's too tied down to a single data storage type
young knoll
a few common databases
echo basalt
nightmare
vagrant stratus
even https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/list-of-found-malware.389467/ is a greater contribution than a PI plugin, although I haven't updated it in a long time lmao
young knoll
Alright I think the lad has been roasted enough
echo basalt
let's start rapping on him
kind hatch
Time to make a diss track
echo basalt
wait I thought this was #general
young knoll
#general is a vibe, not a place
echo basalt
this is also a vibe
young knoll
This currently has the #general vibe
vagrant stratus
even <https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/list-of-found-malware.389467/> is a great...
I want to re-do this however, better though
kind hatch
Need a spigot-zone channel.
young knoll
Hey there is a domain for that
kind hatch
I want to re-do this however, better though
Make a website for it. You can do it a 1000x better.
young knoll
Use a set instead of a list
vagrant stratus
Yea, I plan on it. Just not entirely sure on how I want to impl it though design wise
young knoll
kek
vagrant stratus
Something like one of these two would be cool. I'm just not sure how the backend is handled.
young knoll
Left looks nicer
vagrant stratus
would also require a separate page per item though 🤔
young knoll
Not that hard if they all follow the same format
vagrant stratus
I'd still have to decide on other things, like if the page creation is handled client side or server side
kind hatch
What you'll be showing on the page will depend on what you are storing.
echo basalt
make all pages by hand
young knoll
^ yeah
vagrant stratus
Might be genned client side by just looping through the api results. I'll have to check later
okay nvm, I suck at the game I was playing
I'll check now lmfao
young knoll
Lol
It’s pretty easy to generate a page with the api results
Also saves storing a bunch of pages
vagrant stratus
note: I know exactly 0 front end stuff
Not difficult for me to do backend, front end though is 😬
kind hatch
You really just need one page design for how you want to display a result. Then just load the data when the user goes to the specific malware page.
vagrant stratus
Yea, but I'd still need to know the HTML, CSS, and JS to actually make the page
of which I do not know
Making it look nice is its own thing
something else I don't know how to do
kind hatch
Ur just bad. CSS is hella easy
kind hatch
Watchu talkin about?
vagrant stratus
I'm just not good at making things look nice 🤷♂️
young knoll
Hey I can make it look like an early internet website no problem
Nice and simple and clean
But nah modern websites need all the fancy schmancy stuff
vagrant stratus
I can't even do early internet lmao
kind hatch
The websites that rely too much on JS are the problem. CSS is very fast and people just aren't taking advantage of newer features.
vagrant stratus
Hell, I'm having issues just recreating things that already exist, let alone doing something myself
young knoll
You get a basic nav bar
You get a simple page with some tables and maybe an image
Take it or leave it
kind hatch
1v1 figma rn
vagrant stratus
eh.
young knoll
I’m a Frontend
vagrant stratus
I'd want it to look nice, not shit
vagrant stratus
That doesn't mean I'd be able to make something nice out of it
vagrant stratus
Hell, I'm having issues just *recreating* things that already exist, let alone d...
.
kind hatch
Frameworks are also kinda restrictive
vagrant stratus
I can use bootstrap all I want, I can't make shit w/ it because I can't come up with an actual design
young knoll
Wikipedia
vagrant stratus
No
young knoll
Bam perfect design
kind hatch
no no, you can't make shit with bootstrap because it sucks massive donkey dick
vagrant stratus
Bam perfect design
Not for what I need
young knoll
Fuck I was gonna say that
young knoll
Can it magically generate CSS for me
kind hatch
Not really. That's what some of the 3rd party plugins are for.
young knoll
I see
kind hatch
The autogenerated stuff is kinda bad. Even with their recent update
kind hatch
Why do you think I handled the BTGUI? lol
young knoll
“Does this line of CSS make it look nice?… nope”
“How about this one?… ope now the entire website is fucked”
young knoll
Why do you think I handled the BTGUI? lol
Heh
kind hatch
Heh
I mean, you saw the process. The first one I made was kinda bad, so I remade it and it is what it is now.
It's just a process thing
Can only get good at it with practice
quaint mantle
i tried recreating the issue in a new project but couldn't, i modified the original code to be this:
for (Path path : paths) {
if (Files.isDirectory(path)) {
ItemStack item = new ItemStack(Material.YELLOW_WOOL);
if (data.getDeleteMode()) item = new ItemStack(Material.RED_WOOL);
folders.add(itemProperties(item, ChatColor.YELLOW + path.getFileName().toString(), List.of("Folder"), "folder"));
}
else {
System.out.println(path.getFileName().toString());
String a = "§f" + path.getFileName().toString();
System.out.println(a);
ItemStack item = new ItemStack(Material.WHITE_WOOL);
//if (data.getDeleteMode()) item = new ItemStack(Material.ORANGE_WOOL);
System.out.println(item.getItemMeta().getDisplayName());
//item = itemProperties(item, a, List.of("File"), "file");
ItemMeta meta = item.getItemMeta();
meta.setDisplayName(a);
item.setItemMeta(meta);
System.out.println(item.getItemMeta().getDisplayName());
files.add(item);
System.out.println(files.get(files.size()-1).getItemMeta().getDisplayName());
}
}```
and it now outputs this result, i am totally lost.(i can't send images)
kind hatch
@vagrant stratus Do you have any idea what you want it to look like? Or better yet, what does the command line stuff look like?
?img
undone axleBOT
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quaint mantle
i just sent it in a different channel and sent the link to the image
but i am so lost with this
the varable changes when i don't change it
vagrant stratus
<@172395749814960134> Do you have any idea what you want it to look like? Or bet...
CLI? there's no CLI for any of the projects lol
kind hatch
I must be lost then. What are you making then? I thought we were talking about stuff for the anti malware project?
vagrant stratus
Yea, client-side. So an actual website
kind hatch
i tried recreating the issue in a new project but couldn't, i modified the origi...
What are you trying to do with this? As in, what is the expected output?
kind hatch
Right, but don't your current tools only work via the command line?
or loaded through the server?
vagrant stratus
The new stuff is gonna be the paper fork & plugins. None of which will use CLI, but be config based
There will be the current Anti-Malware, but that'll be EOL'd once the new stuff releases
vagrant stratus
The new stuff is gonna be the paper fork & plugins. None of which will use CLI, ...
bare minimum for the website (for now) though is
home page
register
login
user specific page which lists projects, api key for each (and various functionality related to them), and paypal buttons.
Still not entire sure how I'll handle the paypal buttons though. Still have yet to find a good & secure way to map a purchase to the right account 😐
river oracle
anyone know why my GUI would be centering elements even though they should be anchored to the NORTHWEST according to my code.
c.gridx = 0;
c.gridy = 0;
c.anchor = GridBagConstraints.NORTHWEST;
add(recipeLabel, c);
c.gridy = 1;
c.weighty = 1;
c.fill = GridBagConstraints.VERTICAL;
add(displayContainer, c);
kind hatch
The PTSD is coming back
kind hatch
Are there not any libraries that have been made for JFX?
river oracle
🤷♂️ I could try javafx but It makes a muck of my pom and I don't like it really
all rodes lead back to me having to figure out how tf javafx works lol
kind hatch
anyone know why my GUI would be centering elements even though they should be an...
As for this, have you set gridwidths?
river oracle
no I haven't thats probably it
kind hatch
Also, I think by default, if nothing is changed, elements will be placed in the center of the screen.
remote swallow
Use that netbeans gui thing
river oracle
I could just use intellijs
kind hatch
IJ's kinda sucks
Not near as easy as the netbeans one. At least when it comes to sizing.
I was contemplating buying the JFormDesigner plugin, but I never did. It's supposed to be easier apparently.
remote swallow
I havent
lethal python
coll can i dm you for help with something, i don't want to paste my code here because everyone will laugh at me
shadow gazelle
lol
So to go with my weather plugin I want to make mostly realistic wind
As in if it's fast enough it'll make mobs fly around
I'm not sure how I should do that because I think applying a velocity to every entity in a world would cause performance issues
echo basalt
just ask it here and understand why we're laughing at you
we point out your mistakes because we want you to improve as fast as possible
tough love type of deal
at the end of the day no one cares and you're here to get your problem solved
lethal python
ok turns out i have no idea what my problem even is
i made an inventory and for some reason when i open it it gets two copies of me as a viewer
i have an inventorycloseevent and event.getViewers() has 2 of me in it
echo basalt
basically it's a semicircle
or well
7 of them
where the radius increases slightly
vagrant stratus
I want to add it to https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/☄️aurora☄️-ambient-particle-display-customisable-per-biome.89399/ but math fucking sucks KEK
echo basalt
And you need to do some math to know when your angle starts and ends
It's really picky
echo basalt
or well you gotta like atan2
vagrant stratus
glad prawn
who added letters to math? 💀
glad prawn
😭😭😡
paper viper
Alan Turing
yo you're still here??
echo basalt
hol'up I'm getting there
paper viper
I thought you left lol
paper viper
🤠
young knoll
He also had enough people being mean to him when he was alive
echo basalt
yeah the idea is to render a semicircle around an axis perpendicular to the axis between the 2 points
or we can just use bezier curves lmfao
and make it 19x easier
with beziers it's just
public void renderRainbow(Location one, Location two) {
double distance = one.distance(two);
Vector difference = two.toVector().subtract(one.toVector();
Vector middle = difference.multiply(0.5).add(0, distance, 0);
drawBezier(one, middle, two);
}
type deal
it's kinda shit
thinking of the mathemathical way of doing this
public static final double BAND_RADIUS_INCREMENT = 0.1;
public static final double ANGULAR_DISTANCE_BETWEEN_PARTICLES = 1; // Might want to switch to a lerp based approach
public static final Color[] BAND_COLORS = {
new Color(...) // the 7 colors or whatever
};
public void renderRainbow(Location start, Location end) {
double diameter = start.distance(end);
double radius = diameter / 2;
Vector startVec = start.toVector();
Vector endVec = end.toVector();
Vector difference = endVector.clone().subtract(startVector);
Vector middle = difference.clone().multiply(0.5);
double startAngle = middle.angle(startVec);
double endAngle = middle.angle(endVec);
double min = Math.min(startAngle, endAngle);
double max = Math.max(startAngle, endAngle);
double increment = (max - min) * ANGULAR_DISTANCE_BETWEEN_PARTICLES;
for(double angle = min; angle <= max; angle += increment) {
double radians = Math.toRadians(angle);
trig here idk i failed maths
}
}
hm
vagrant stratus
I failed maths too, hence me not having it made already lmfao
echo basalt
something like
double y = radius * Math.sin(radians)
xz is a bit more complicated
I genuinely forgot
but for xz we need to calculate the angle of that separately
with atan2
thin iris
fuck atan2
vagrant stratus
on another note, do skin URLs have to come from the usual site or can it just be... any site?
young knoll
They must be from Mojang
young knoll
They need to be signed essentially
Mineskin provides an api for this
Which citizens uses
vagrant stratus
hmm, guess it could theoretically be replaced then.
I don't want to rely on a third-party though 😐
And depending on how they do it, it might not even bypass the mojang bans lmao
vagrant stratus
shame
was hoping to reimpl skin handling, but not so... limiting ig
but if it requires mojang services, that's fucked lmfao
young knoll
Smh making a system to bypass the bans
vagrant stratus
Nah, it would still include bans. Just make it possible to decide what gets banned
instead of fuck you, global ban
Would include other useful skin related functionality, but it's not worth touching if it has to rely on their services
echo basalt
can't wait for ppl to apply shit to mineskin and report the donor accounts
thanks for the suggestion github
young knoll
Idk if that matters
In theory the account only needs the skin briefly and then they can just revert to Steve
Plus they would have to get it on the same account several times for it to be banned, if you aren’t being a dickhead it just gets removed
slender elbow
+1s blue a single pixel oops
young knoll
Every account that has it yes
I mean the account doesn’t get disabled unless they violate it repeatedly
vagrant stratus
ah
well regardless you probably can't get around it the way you're suggesting
it'll likely just be deletes file and bans hash kinda deal
young knoll
Yea but I’m not talking about getting around it
I’m saying the accounts donated to mineskin will probably be fine
vagrant stratus
ehh
They'll likely lose the skins, regardless of the amount of skins passed through them
but banned? Maybe?
young knoll
They will only get banned if they repeatedly get reported with a bad skin
vagrant stratus
Yea, and those have 1000s of skins used on them. Probably not difficult
young knoll
True
vagrant stratus
It's also not hard to set -> wait -> report -> repeat
distant wave
Any idea how could i make player let sleep in bed but not set spawnpoint
strong parcel
Hey guys, I am having trouble with the EntityExplodeEvent
So I took e.blockList() and assigned it to a List<Block> variable. Then I removed blockes from the variable that should not be broken.
This used to work perfectly fine, but in recent testing, the blocks targeted by the explosion are still broken.
I also tried removing them directly using e.blockList().remove(block), but that had no effect
As well as e.blockList().clear() followed by e.blockList().addAll(blocksThatShouldBreak). This attempt resulted in explosions breaking no blocks at all regardless of the targets.
I don't understand what I need to do to edit the list of blocks that should be broken by the explosion.
All of the print statements fire at the appropriate times, so the code is definitely being run. It seems to me to have something to do with the event methods rather than the math or PDC calls.
vapid anvil
Maybe they made the block list read-only?
If there are separate events firing when the actual blocks are removed you could potentially cancel those instead
eternal oxide
you can;t remove a Block from a list you are currently iterating over unless you use an actual iterator.
valid kite
Is there any event for when an entity lands on a block?
eternal oxide
sometimes. Interact events
chilly hearth
e
btw
if we spawn an entity for example
and we set its customname as "example" + entity.gethealth it will show its health and will track when it go down am i right
ik its stuopid
just wana confirm
chilly hearth
how to
smoky oak
events?
chilly hearth
which event
smoky oak
EntityDamageEvent and EntityRegenEvent iirc
chilly hearth
like how to track it
smoky oak
uh
when those events happen, check if its that entity, if yes, change the custom name
chilly hearth
OHHH
UR SMART
smarty boiii
ik hes gona say "its basic" xd
nah i will just use scoreboard tags
smoky oak
fuck do u mean reference
chilly hearth
they work as well
smoky oak
id exists
chilly hearth
ik xd\
smoky oak
i mean zacken
chilly hearth
oh ye
smoky oak
an ID is not a reference, its the identification. It's not a reversible mapping
Reference = access to the object
uuid doesnt store location data
so you cant get the entity from an uuid
just make sure 'have i iterated over entity x yet?'
ivory sleet
They’re not necessarily unique tho, its just the data type UUID, yes it stands for universally unique identifier but it just represents 128 bits in practice.
smoky oak
pretty sure the algorithm used is dependent on the current unix time
ivory sleet
I was just picking on ur words since what you said isn’t 100% correct
upper hazel
does it make sense to create an additional level of abstraction if this class does nothing
so i can just impl hashDataStore
end use him
distant wave
Any idea how to prevent bed set respawn
undone axleBOT
distant wave
Everywhere I go I see you.
Same interests ig haha
distant wave
<https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot>
I tried few things but wasnt successful
quiet ice
I guess you could use https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerBedEnterEvent.html and reset the spawnpoint a tick later
vapid anvil
I have actually had that
got a console warning, a sheep had spawned with the same UUID as something else
buoyant viper
hushed scaffold
Any idea how could i make player let sleep in bed but not set spawnpoint
Sleep event, save the players old spawnpoint and set the players spawnpoint to that after a delay?
My guess
vapid anvil
Sleep event, save the players old spawnpoint and set the players spawnpoint to t...
spawnpoint can be set without sleeping
distant wave
Sleep event, save the players old spawnpoint and set the players spawnpoint to t...
Tried that it was bugging tho
Not on pc so i can show you rn
vapid anvil
Tried that it was bugging tho
Listen for a PlayerSpawnChangeEvent and cancel it if the event cause is PlayerSpawnChangeEvent.Cause.BED
distant wave
Listen for a `PlayerSpawnChangeEvent` and cancel it if the event cause is `Playe...
Didnt know its an actual event
Thats a cool idea
Must have missed it
Cant find it anywhere
Got docs
?
vapid anvil
distant wave
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerSpawnChan...
Is it version dependent?
vapid anvil
Is it version dependent?
Paper has PlayerSetSpawnEvent that does the same thing but appears to actually be implemented
distant wave
Paper has `PlayerSetSpawnEvent` that does the same thing but appears to actually...
No paper tho
vapid anvil
🤷♂️ might have to find some convoluted Spigot workaround
maybe something in a PlayerInteractEvent
chrome beacon
Yeah PlayerInteractEvent
Cancel the event or in the next tick remove the bed position
vapid anvil
the issue would be how do you cancel the spawn set but also let the player sleep
chrome beacon
Then you'd do the second option
Just remove it next tick and hope the player doesn't die during that time
chrome beacon
Yeah probably legacy
hexed crown
So a bit of a noob question as I just started with learning to make spiggot plugins, I keep getting this error
[13:26:31 ERROR] [Minecraft]: Could not load 'plugins\presenthunt-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar' in folder 'plugins': uses the space-character (0x20) in its name
But there doesn't seem to be any spaces in my pom.xml file?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd">
<modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
<groupId>org.nephalem</groupId>
<artifactId>presenthunt</artifactId>
<version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
<packaging>jar</packaging>
<name>PresentHunt</name>
<description>A plugin where players can run to heads around spawn and right click them for prizes Each present can
have 1 random reward from the regular rewards list When you get to ur final present, u get the mega prize
</description>
<properties>
<java.version>1.8</java.version>
<project.build.sourceEncoding>UTF-8</project.build.sourceEncoding>
</properties>
<build>
<plugins>
<plugin>
<groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId>
<version>3.8.1</version>
<configuration>
<source>${java.version}</source>
<target>${java.version}</target>
</configuration>
</plugin>
<plugin>
<groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-shade-plugin</artifactId>
<version>3.2.4</version>
<executions>
<execution>
<phase>package</phase>
<goals>
<goal>shade</goal>
</goals>
<configuration>
<createDependencyReducedPom>false</createDependencyReducedPom>
</configuration>
</execution>
</executions>
</plugin>
</plugins>
<resources>
<resource>
<directory>src/main/resources</directory>
<filtering>true</filtering>
</resource>
</resources>
</build>
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>spigotmc-repo</id>
<url>https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/</url>
</repository>
<repository>
<id>sonatype</id>
<url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
<version>1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>
</project>
Even in 1.12? I should try that tho
undone axleBOT
hexed crown
young knoll
So a bit of a noob question as I just started with learning to make spiggot plug...
plugin.yml, not pom
hexed crown
I'm confused as to why when I used intellij's Minecraft development plugin it made a pom.xml then lol
young knoll
That’s for maven
chrome beacon
The pom is for managing the Java project
plugin.yml is for the finished project during runtime
hexed crown
Wait then do I need to make a plugin.yml file or should it already be there?
chrome beacon
If you used the mc dev plugiin it's in the resources folder
vapid anvil
I mean the spawn change event probably works
It doesn't compile
marked for removal, you get an error if you try using it
chrome beacon
Draft api should compile
vapid anvil
huh it does compile
I guess IntelliJ just considers it bad practise enough to mark it as an error
I know what deprecated means
vapid anvil
it's specifically deprecated for removal, which I guess means its removal is imminent instead of at some point
young knoll
It’s not marked for removal in 1.20
vapid anvil
it is in 1.20.1
chrome beacon
It's not
glad prawn
can we pass null to setBedSpawnLocation to remove sp 😦
young knoll
Are you using spigot api
glad prawn
like setDeathMessage
young knoll
Or are you using paper api
young knoll
Mhm
vapid anvil
nevermind, I guess it's just Paper that has it marked
undone axleBOT
chrome beacon
?fork
undone axleBOT
SpigotMC maintains the Spigot server. If you are using a fork of Spigot (such as Paper, Airplane, Purpur, or other derivative works), you should seek support in the appropriate Discord servers.
vapid anvil
if it's deprecated in Spigot what's the workaround supposed to be?
lmao you guys get pretty worked up about that huh
icy beacon
lmao you guys get pretty worked up about that huh
Well it's not exactly that
It's just kinda hard to provide support for software we don't develop
young knoll
It’s not deprecated in spigot
vapid anvil
well I'm asking about the software you do develop
young knoll
Spigot just used to use @Deprecated for draft api
icy beacon
well I'm asking about the software you *do* develop
And that will be Spigot, thanks
young knoll
Now we use @Experimental
undone axleBOT
vapid anvil
Is it version dependent?
this guy doesn't seem to be able to use the event
that is what we're actually trying to figure out
nothing to do with Paper
scenic onyx
How i can get Entity in an ENUM? exist class?
hazy parrot
can you elaborate a little bit
lilac dagger
hexed crown
How do I add a fuction to an block? I wanna be able to right click a mob head / player head and have it give me an item
tall dragon
can be done with PlayerInteractEvent
upper hazel
is the privileges plugin similar to luckPerms or does it use it as a source of permission management?
hexed crown
can be done with PlayerInteractEvent
I'll look into it ty!
quaint mantle
Hey guys, how can I get the worldserver from a resourceKey (1.18)
@NotNull
private static final ResourceKey<World> resourceKey;
@NotNull
private static final Method method;
public FakeEntityPlayer18(@NotNull GameProfile gameProfile) {
super(MinecraftServer.getServer(), /** how to return the worldserver by resourceKey*/, gameProfile);
To use EntityPlayer:
public EntityPlayer(MinecraftServer minecraftserver, WorldServer worldserver, GameProfile gameprofile) {
I mean it's not necessary but for the versions 1.12 and 1.16 I have used it and it seemed to work
And what variable should I put as the world? A Bukkit world ?
chrome beacon
Yes
Also there's no need to reinvent the wheel
There are plenty of NPC apis you can use
Until you have to support 1.8-latest
and have to maintain that yourself instead of working on cool features
quaint mantle
^^
chrome beacon
Yeah I saw
I was thinking of doing the same
I've been researching on how to transpile Dart to Java
🤷♂️
quaint mantle
1 more question, how can I spawn here a fake player with the network manager?
private static final void spawnFakePlayer$lambda10(FakeEntityPlayer118 $fake) {
Intrinsics.checkNotNullParameter((Object)$fake, (String)"$fake");
EntityPlayer entityPlayer1 = (EntityPlayer) $fake;
NetworkManager networkManager1 = $fake.b.a;
EntityHuman entityHuman = (EntityHuman) entityPlayer1.getBukkitEntity().getPlayer();
//MinecraftServer.getServer().
try {
//MinecraftServer.getServer().ac().a($fake.b.a, (EntityPlayer)$fake);
//MinecraftServer.getServer().getPlayerList().a(entityHuman);
}
catch (Exception ex) {
ex.printStackTrace();
fakePlayers.remove($fake.cm());
return;
}
}
plugins for donations
is this a new level of abstraction for luckPerms?
scenic onyx
1 more question, how can I spawn here a fake player with the network manager?
``...
why $
chrome beacon
^^
quaint mantle
Yeah, I'm using my friend's spoofer and I'm trying to learn on how to make it since he's going to uni soon and he didn't want to give me the source code since he said I have to be learning, but rn I am kind of in a hole because I don't know how to spawn a player (since I am kind of a beginner) and I decompiled his plugin and wanted to see how he did it
scenic onyx
Yeah, I'm using my friend's spoofer and I'm trying to learn on how to make it si...
i use "luyten" or "recaf"
how?
quaint mantle
how?
i was ab to ask the same question xD
I see, thanks a lot for your advice, but since I think I'm kind of getting close to it, if it would be already, could you tell me how to do those mappings in 1.18.2?
scenic onyx
I never understood how that site works
quaint mantle
Thanks a lot 🙂
hasty prawn
Well those are obfuscated that's kinda the point of those
drowsy helm
just use moj map
hasty prawn
They're all the same thing, just different names.
strong parcel
you can;t remove a Block from a list you are currently iterating over unless you...
Yep, you're right. I thought it was fine because it wasn't sending an error, but I didn't realize that every time a block was removed from the list, all of the list elements were shifting, causing it to skip blocks. I think my successful tests were done with Obsidian blocks, and I was just testing the PDC aspect. LOL
strong parcel
That's rude, dude
chrome beacon
Show us the code you used
scenic onyx
strong parcel
lol
strong parcel
ChatGPT is actually pretty helpful if you can get past the hallucinations
scenic onyx
it pay
upper hazel
using api is the best solution don't listen to your friend
distant wave
Cancel the event or in the next tick remove the bed position
sorry for late reply, like this?
upper hazel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/826517769578479687.webp?size=48&name=stonks&qu...
how undestand this
scenic onyx
player1.teleport(player2.getLocation().add(y, x, z))
upper hazel
lol
echo basalt
if you are a beginner you shouldn't use copilot
bros losing his marbles because I called him a beginner
upper hazel
what to do in such a situation when the customer doesn’t have enough money to order a plugin but i doesn’t want to refuse
echo basalt
send a rotation packet with the vehicle entity id?
echo basalt
what to do in such a situation when the customer doesn’t have enough money to or...
you refuse
because skill comes at a cost
eh
I've tried but I'm not great
distant wave
sorry for late reply, like this?
why doesnt this cancel the bed respawn? it should right?
upper hazel
ProtocolLib use NMS ?
vapid anvil
internally yeah
tall dragon
<@274948157711056896>
hmm? what about them
hasty prawn
He can because ProtocolLib handles that.
upper hazel
another verision
vapid anvil
I use ProtocolLib because I don't want to have to deal with NMS
the ProtocolLib dev handles updating the NMS code for new versions
echo basalt
plib just uses reflections mostly
upper hazel
all sayEveryone says that NMS is version sensitive, but how does ProtocolLib deal with this?
tall dragon
i could try if you explain the issue sure
eternal oxide
open your jar with 7zip and see if the file really exists
quaint mantle
Hey, so I've checked the mappings, but I am still not sure how to make this spawnFakePlayer work:
private static final void spawnFakePlayer$lambda10(FakeEntityPlayer118 $fake) {
Intrinsics.checkNotNullParameter((Object)$fake, (String)"$fake");
EntityPlayer entityPlayer1 = (EntityPlayer) $fake;
NetworkManager networkManager1 = $fake.b.a;
PlayerConnection connection = $fake.b;
EntityHuman entityHuman = (EntityHuman) entityPlayer1.getBukkitEntity().getPlayer();
//MinecraftServer.getServer().
try {
PacketPlayOutNamedEntitySpawn packet = new PacketPlayOutNamedEntitySpawn(entityHuman);
connection.
//networkManager1.;
//MinecraftServer.getServer().ac().a($fake.b.a, (EntityPlayer)$fake);
//MinecraftServer.getServer().getPlayerList().a(entityHuman);
}
catch (Exception ex) {
ex.printStackTrace();
fakePlayers.remove($fake.cm());
return;
}
}
bro use api
Citizes
tall dragon
pretty sure that works out the box if you followed their demo yes
tall dragon
;d
hasty prawn
gradle is okay when it does what you want it to do
upper hazel
I don't want to use API's, I want to do it by myself
ok
tall dragon
gradle is okay when it does what you want it to do
which is... almost never
hasty prawn
fair enough
tall dragon
thing just is. gradle has 300 different ways to achieve the same result
so everyone does it differently lol
hasty prawn
Gradle just does too many things for it to be able to do the simple things easily
Like making a fat jar requires a plugin
shadow night
thing just is. gradle has 300 different ways to achieve the same result
Fr fr
tall dragon
pretty much yea
hasty prawn
But, with that being said, if you learn how Gradle does things 
quaint mantle
Hey, so I've checked the mappings, but I am still not sure how to make this spaw...
👀
tall dragon
i had to make a modular paperweight project a few weeks ago
lets just say im lucky i have a friend much smarter than me
pain
hasty prawn
Lol
I actually made a Gradle plugin recently, the documentation on Gradle's site is actually not bad
tall dragon
what the plugin do
hasty prawn
Applies Moj maps automatically
Basically just give it the MC version you want and it adds the moj map dependencies for you and then lets you rebuild back to Spigot
chrome beacon
There are also like 3 plugins that can do that with Spigot
hasty prawn
Yeah, I'm sure there are now. When I first started using moj maps there wasn't one for gradle
quaint mantle
Hey, so I've checked the mappings, but I am still not sure how to make this spaw...
Any idea?
chrome beacon
?notworking
undone axleBOT
"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.
strong parcel
lol, i have been using Maven for over a year and still only know what one button does
vapid anvil
I know what 3 of the buttons do 😎
hexed crown
?paste
undone axleBOT
hexed crown
So I am trying to add the ability to turn mob heads and player heads into little presents that when you right click them it gives you a reward, I have tried running the code though ChatGPT but it can't seem th find the issue as to why it's not doing anything when you right click the heads
https://paste.md-5.net/faruguvoyi.java
There isn't any errors in the server logs
echo basalt
502 bad gateway 
valid kite
I'm guessing EntityAirChange event is triggered every tick but if not how often is it triggered?
opal juniper
whenever the amount of air changes 
which i think is less than every tick - depends if it is a discrete or continuous value
valid kite
whenever the amount of air changes <:PES_AngeryWut:643758277230067732>
I know that much lol
Just making sure
valid kite
which i think is less than every tick - depends if it is a discrete or continuou...
Ok nice ty
hexed crown
Well I got the interaction reward to work but for some reason it only works with player heads and not mob heads as well >.>
https://paste.md-5.net/ekokuyarus.java
echo basalt
Well I got the interaction reward to work but for some reason it only works with...
maybe because you have a check for player heads??
Mob heads are a different material
echo basalt
for a countdown
I just go with a solid purple
hexed crown
maybe because you have a check for player heads??
Maybe, I ended up removing it and I'll just use player heads
valid kite
Turns out that EntityAirChange only really works when entities are in water
For me atleast anyways
Anyone know a good way to track when an entity falls or touchs a block?
clever lantern
is it wrong to use DI with listeners?
valid kite
Could i technically track an animation of the pig to see whenever it gets hurt or something?
Or entity
remote swallow
is it wrong to use DI with listeners?
no
river oracle
is it wrong to use DI with listeners?
that's the preferred method
unkempt peak
Random question, in what situation would https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEvent.html#getItem() return null if the player has an item in their hand?
clever lantern
that's the preferred method
i mean to inject listener to some class
valid kite
Wait entityairchange event is for how much breath the entity has my bad
I think i found the solution to my problem
clever lantern
Random question, in what situation would https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigo...
returns null if player has no item in hand
unkempt peak
That's what I thought, but for some reason it is returning null when the player right clicks a block
river oracle
i mean to inject listener to some class
you should never need to do that
clever lantern
That's what I thought, but for some reason it is returning null when the player ...
yeah, almost always null is an exception type value, so an exception in getItem() is when player has no item
unkempt peak
And, I have tried it with a sword item and a food item, the food item doesn't return null but the sword does
This is only when the event is RIGHT_CLICK_BLOCK
Is this because the food item tiggers a use action but the sword doesn't?
Sorry I had the wrong action
it's when clicking a block
mellow edge
if I iterate over Material class legacy values will be included, so could I maybe use !Material#isLegacy
worldly ingot
If your api version is set, it shouldn't include legacy materials
mellow edge
api-version: '1.20'
kind hatch
For compatibility with older plugins that have not been updated.
tough mica
Hello,
i got a class when a player died hes get in the spectator mode. now is the problem if the player scrolls on the mouse he can fly. but i want that the player cant move. the another problem is that the player can get in another players und can teleport to another players. how can i fix that?
quaint mantle
¯_(ツ)_/¯ this thing is so much fun to send
quaint mantle
Hello,
i got a class when a player died hes get in the spectator mode. now is th...
With listeners. Everything with listeners.
tough mica
yes, but which listeners?
quaint mantle
PlayerMoveEvent
tough mica
i tried it already, but the player can teleport into another players
that the hugest problem
quaint mantle
Hm. Wait, when I player moves the event gets triggered. So... if you can teleport to it, just save the previous location and teleport back the player.
quaint mantle
player teleport event probably
It's not a regular teleport.
tough mica
yea, thats a solution . but isnt it possible to remove the function that the player can teleport to another players in the spectator mode
echo basalt
Hello,
i got a class when a player died hes get in the spectator mode. now is th...
just
remote swallow
It's not a regular teleport.
it will still cause the event
quaint mantle
and force the player to spectate it
Best solution
tough mica
spawn an invisible armorstand
okay yea that a good idea
hexed crown
Sorry for the stupid question but can anyone help me figure out why you gain the rewards twice when you only right click once
https://paste.md-5.net/tosodapiza.java
eternal night
this count to the what ?
distant wave
this count to the what ?
i want to prevent setting the bed spawnpoint
eternal night
Use PlayerSpawnChangeEvent ?
distant wave
Use PlayerSpawnChangeEvent ?
im using 1.12.2 where this event isnt
eternal night
my condolences, gl!
distant wave
i dont know how to fix that lmao 😭
distant wave
<:skully:1033549294319439933> my condolences, gl!
is there a tick event in bukkit
hexed crown
interact is called twice
Where exactly?
eternal night
hm ?
remote swallow
?interactevent
undone axleBOT
The PlayerInteractEvent may be called once per hand. If you only want code to be executed once, you can check the result of https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEvent.html#getHand(), then decide functionality.
For example, only executing code if the main hand was used:
@EventHandler
public void onPlayerInteract(PlayerInteractEvent event) {
if (event.getHand() != EquipmentSlot.HAND) { // * if the hand used is NOT the main hand:
return; // do not progress past this point |
}
// provide functionality
}
u can pass null to setBedSpawnLocation
distant wave
u can pass null to setBedSpawnLocation
that would reset it to world spawn right?
what if the player has a normal /spawnpoint somewhere else
glad prawn
that would reset it to world spawn right?
distant wave
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/main...
that doesnt answer anything tho
hexed crown
Ok I got it working, thank you!
tough mica
is it possible in the playermoveevent, to activate the mouseviewing?
small current
how to disable tab complete of a certain username(s) in commands?
clever lantern
how to disable tab complete of a certain username(s) in commands?
filter them
worldly ingot
If it's your own command you can just omit them from your TabCompleter implementation
small current
filter them
great
small current
If it's your own command you can just omit them from your TabCompleter implement...
well its not
worldly ingot
You can't know whether a suggestion is a player name though. You just kind of have to assume they're all player names
lethal python
Custom inventory has duplicate viewers
clever lantern
great
you can use adventure library
BukkitAudiences.create(Plugin.getInstance()).filter(player -> !notInlcudedList.contains(player))
kind hatch
Adventure is not part of spigot though.
clever lantern
or just getOnlinePlayers and filter them by yourself
worldly ingot
I don't even know what that has to do with tab completion
clever lantern
someone knows what event is fired when player attacks other player?
remote swallow
entitiy damage event
small current
you can use adventure library
``` BukkitAudiences.create(Plugin.getInstance()).f...
does this filter ALL plugins?
worldly ingot
Or for a bit more precision, EntityDamageByEntityEvent
clever lantern
does this filter ALL plugins?
it filters online players
lethal python
i made a thread for a problem im having
remote swallow
does this filter ALL plugins?
use the tab complete event
worldly ingot
Then you can use <https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/serv...
Suggested above ^
small current
use the tab complete event
aight
worldly ingot
That's your answer. Ignore anybody else suggesting anything else
Literally no clue why they mentioned Adventure
quaint mantle
And is there a list of releasee versions like 1.18.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
worldly ingot
They'll all be <version>-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
sage dragon
Did Mojang remove the ability for zombies to wear heads in 1.20.2?
They aren't being rendered anymore
quaint mantle
Even back to 1.8?
worldly ingot
Starting from 1.8 actually, yeah
Exception to 1.8.9 because there was no server release for that version
quaint mantle
So 1.8.8
worldly ingot
Correct
wraith apex
Anyone know of the forum thread that talks about the faster methods of setting blocks in a world?
undone axleBOT
wraith apex
Thanks for the resource, however it's not what I'm looking for
remote swallow
do you know what discord ur in
lethal python
apparently there's a rule that if your thing is about paper then ur not meant to reply
tidal kettle
thx
wraith apex
If you're talking about coloured text in the console it is a thing
remote swallow
but paper is in major part spiogt?
spigot is inside paper, paper isnt in spigot
we cannot help with something that we dont add
tidal kettle
spigot is inside paper, paper isnt in spigot
ok i understand and i'm really sorry
lethal python
u dont have to apologise so hard it's ok
remote swallow
we addon to the vanilla jar, paper then addon to us. so paper add stuff seperately
lethal python
epicebic are you good at spigot
remote swallow
depends on what
wraith apex
the colour thing is spigot though
remote swallow
spigot console uses ansi
papers uses the same as mc colour codes
removethe inspection, ignore it, or null check it
remote swallow
spigot has a console
glad prawn
Override onCommand method, setExecutor to this
wraith apex
it's up the console if it supports the extended colours
wraith apex
public static String applyColour(String string,Color colour)
{
return ChatColor.of(colour) + string;
}
'Color' is from awt
'ChatColor' is net.md_5.bungee.api.ChatColor
none of this is paper
lethal python
omg bri ish
wraith apex
omg bri ish
omg muri cn
lethal python
im bri ish too
wraith apex
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lethal python
🤝
wraith apex
if you want to use §6 in console you have to use paper
aight after some testing it seems while the method is there, it doesn't seem to work in spigot. However you can still use basic colour codes in the console. You just can't use anything beyond the basic colours
sage dragon
How would I listen to packets in 1.20.2?
Seems like something changed in 1.20.2
wraith apex
although I'm using puffer
lethal python
logicaldark do u think u could check my thread
wraith apex
what thread
wraith apex
y
lethal python
maybe u know the answer
zealous scroll
would it be much strain on the server's storage to track player-placed blocks with a value in their pdc?
eternal valve
I want to write a small plugin to turn off vanilla fishing in Minecraf, where can I start?
My goal is to close the fish in vanilla and only the ones I added with itemsadder appear.
In addition, itemsadderda uses "fishing" so I just want to disable the vanilla loot table and run only "fishing" even if it is empty
vast ledge
would it be much strain on the server's storage to track player-placed blocks wi...
save it in a DB file, like core protect, you can look at what they did
zealous scroll
apparently saving it in the chunk's pdc is better isn't it?
hushed spindle
does anyone happen to have the item slot indexes for the creative menu armor slots
since the player inventory and creative inventory are different
actually nevermind ill just test that
they the same 👍
twin venture
InventoryCloseEvent : the item that is on the Courser will be removed no matter what i do is there a fix for it?
robust helm
How can I copy all properties of one Object(Player) to another object (also Player)? I was thinking about making a world profile system, so players have different effects, inventories, health, saturation etc. in each world
robust helm
How can I copy all properties of one Object(Player) to another object (also Play...
nvm found the words i have to search for while writing this lol
heady grove
Hi, I am having an issue with the BlockDropItemEvent
I'm using the getBlockState() method which the docs (https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/block/BlockDropItemEvent.html#getBlockState()) states "Gets the BlockState of the block involved in this event before it was broken.", I interpret this as giving a BlockState of the block prior to the event happening i.e. the block itself not a BlockState for AIR
When I break carrots I seem to be getting a BlockState with a getBlock() result of Material.AIR
Does anyone know how I can determine the block that was broken/why I am getting a BlockState for Material.AIR
Code:
@EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGH)
public void onBreakResultsInDrop(BlockDropItemEvent event) {
if (!isCrop(event.getBlockState().getBlock())) {
return;
}
new CropBreakEvent(event.getBlock(), event.getBlockState(), event.getPlayer(), event.getItems());
}
private boolean isCrop(Block block) {
//TODO: Update
return block.getType().equals(Material.CARROTS);
}
Using a remote Java debugger the event.getBlockState() result is
"CraftBlock{pos=BlockPosition{x=-1, y=63, z=42},type=AIR,data=Block{minecraft:air},fluid=net.minecraft.world.level.material.FluidTypeEmpty@29012da7}"
warm mica
Hi, I am having an issue with the `BlockDropItemEvent`
I'm using the `getBlockS...
That's because that event gets called when the block has already been broken (= type: AIR). The Block class represents and returns the live state of the block, while a BlockState is a momentum snapshot of possibly a past moment
Thus event.getBlockState() is not the equivaleng of event.gegBlockState().getBlock().getState()
You'd have to pass the BlockState to isCrop
heady grove
Ah brilliant - I probably should've looked further into BlockState did not notice it had a getType() method also. Thank you for your help 🙂
bronze crystal
hi, how do I get an object with the interface CraftingInventory in 1.20
Getting CraftingInventory for Custom Crafting Table
barren nacelle
Does anyone know how to cancel a task timer inside of the task timer itself?
wraith apex
cancel()
barren nacelle
Show us your runnable
Give me a minute and I’ll paste it
barren nacelle
Show us your runnable
Here you go
In the if statement I want to cancel the loop
glad prawn
...(plugin, task -> { task.cancel(); });
young knoll
^
livid dove
God imagine not making your runnable a separate class so you can just do this.cancel
wraith apex
How to get cancelled
livid dove
Search your feelings you know it to be true
young knoll
I normally only do that if the runnable is more than a few lines
wraith apex
new BukkitRunnable()
{
@Override
public void run()
{
cancel();
}
}.runTaskTimer(MyPlugin.getInstance(),20,20);
Ah I like the versatility of it being its own class.
Gets it's own fields, can added it to a manager if u were so inclined (for stuff like event checking etc )
livid dove
```JAVA
new BukkitRunnable()
{
@Override
public void run()
{
...
.... I hate this
glad prawn
```JAVA
new BukkitRunnable()
{
@Override
public void run()
{
...
why annoymous class, lambda is shorter
livid dove
If usually say go to the church and ask God to forgive you.
But they sint even letting u in bro
wraith apex
why annoymous class, lambda is shorter
because it doesn't matter?
glad prawn
clean🤑
wraith apex
so is this
livid dove
Clean isn't being it's own class
livid dove
Also you know someone is being pedantic when they see a runnable that just cancels itself being ran via run task timer and go "WhAt AbOuT lAmBdA ThO?" 💀
glad prawn
then
wraith apex
Also you know someone is being pedantic when they see a runnable that just cance...
lambda is overhyped
people like the very little verbosity it is
livid dove
Get that functional crap out of my OOP 💀
wraith apex
I can do all this complex shit in one line
livid dove
We are an instance based household sir
barren nacelle
How can reference main without making a new instance of my main class? I know it's probably basic java but I'm very stupid
young knoll
?di
undone axleBOT
Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/
brisk ice
Hello everyone, today when I wanted to download the plugins for my server, I downloaded one of the plugins, it directed me to the cloudfare page, the case is that it doesn't go beyond that page and I couldn't download anything, any solution?
wraith apex
store your main in an instance in itself
wraith apex
for exmaple
young knoll
You can also use a static getter for your main
DI is generally preferred
But ehhhhhhh
wraith apex
How can reference main without making a new instance of my main class? I know it...
public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin
{
public static MyPlugin instance;
public void onEnable()
{
instance = this;
}
}
then you can just do MyPlugin.instance
wraith apex
???
getters and setters are only needed if you need to control retrieval or setting of a variable like in race conditions
young knoll
Last thing you want is another plugin just doing MyPlugin.instance = null
wraith apex
they're not needed for literally every variable
wraith apex
Last thing you want is another plugin just doing MyPlugin.instance = null
they could easily do that with a setter
ivory sleet
```JAVA
public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin
{
public static MyPlugin inst...
thats goofy
wraith apex
also if you have another dev doing that, that sounds like a skill issue on their end
young knoll
Better safe than sorry
ivory sleet
Because java lacks whats called property semantics which languages like kotlin have encapsulation regarding data of objects become extremely nice, especially if u dont hate urself
there is more to a getter than just the field invocation
wraith apex
thats goofy
goofy?
ivory sleet
yea
ivory sleet
it's overkill
and no its definitely not
wraith apex
no it is
barren nacelle
If the code compiles I'm fine with using it
ivory sleet
thats a poor mindset
wraith apex
thank you
wraith apex
thats a poor mindset
no a poor mindset is someone who thinks every var needs a getter
barren nacelle
It's for a server only using my own plugins
wraith apex
they don't
ivory sleet
they don't
you dont know the point of encapsulation especially in java
prime reef
💀
ivory sleet
i mean sure if u work procedurally then yeah
wraith apex
I do
ivory sleet
but java is not really procedural
wraith apex
then make it final
prime reef
there are a few ways you can accomplish this besides getters though
ivory sleet
code becomes really coupled the way object orientation works if you dont encapsulate ur fields
prime reef
then make it final
I said unprotected, not none
If you don't need further write access that's fine
young knoll
public String name { get; set; } when
prime reef
I use struct-style classes where that's a factor
wraith apex
it's holding an instance of a main class
prime reef
`public String name { get; set; }` when
C# my beloved
wraith apex
there is nothing to write
ivory sleet
there is nothing to write
thats not the point of having it private
barren nacelle
Nevermind the code didn't work
ivory sleet
again you prob dont know why encapsulation is so vital
young knoll
Can’t be final here
wraith apex
I do
young knoll
Since you assign it in onEnable
brisk ice
Does anyone really know why cloudfare won't let me download spigot plugins please help me
prime reef
Does anyone really know why cloudfare won't let me download spigot plugins pleas...
this is for code
prime reef
Since you assign it in onEnable
yeah and since onEnable isn't a constructor...
(i am agreeing with you, i have learned that this is necessary to communicate with developers)
wraith apex
the difference is that I'm past the point of by disenchantment of getters and setters for everything
prime reef
it's good practice in case someone else ever touches your code
even if they won't
code conventions exist for a reason
young knoll
Or another plugin is on your server
prime reef
if you're entirely a hobbyist then do whtaever
young knoll
That isn’t your own
prime reef
Or another plugin is on your server
yeah and it reflectively tries to do some shit
prime reef
i hope you don't work in tech
wraith apex
and note
to even do that
you'd have to have my plugin as a lib
or reflect access it
wraith apex
not really my problem though
encapsulation can be but an illusion anyway if I can just reflect my way across a plugin
prime reef
encapsulation has more purposes than just write protection, y'know
java lacks pass by reference for primitives for instance
but that's neither here nor there
barren nacelle
I'll just use a getter
wraith apex
yes encapsulation hides what the class actually does and just provides you methods on how you can operate it
prime reef
I'll just use a getter
if you're after a reference to your plugin class just use the singleton pattern
wraith apex
I'll just use a getter
you really don't need to mate
prime reef
singleton pattern is very standard for this kind of thing
young knoll
Javaplz
wraith apex
singleton lmao
prime reef
Can we just have C# properties
java when they try to add structs and fail
wraith apex
singletons?
prime reef
singleton lmao
found the hobby coder
wraith apex
you mean static
wraith apex
static class
ivory sleet
I do
Clearly not, because if you have then you would be past the point of not being object oriented in Java. You know how much Java suffered cause of System.out and System.in hell just look at the implementation!? If we want to restrain consumers from touching our data unrestrained then you can't just do that whenever you feel like. Let's say the code you write becomes exposed to external modularity or you define an api layer, or you need to add thread safety, or maybe alter the implementation entirely. Why do you think Java decided to make record components expose methods and not final fields?
prime reef
that is not what a singleton is
static classes are tied to compilation units
not related
wraith apex
found the hobby coder
how many more labels are you going to label me with as if that somehow lowers my values of what I'm saying in your head hm?
prime reef
singleton pattern involves maintaining a static, write-protected reference to an object of which there will only be a single instance at runtime
prime reef
how many more labels are you going to label me with as if that somehow lowers my...
none, that's the label
young knoll
wraith apex
and the label means nothing
ivory sleet
The issue with not using encapsulation doesn't come right away, but if you don't have any experience in the enterprise industry or in larger code bases you probably don't understand and cannot grasp the bigger issue of avoiding these practices we got together after many years of trial and erroring
prime reef
Seriously, though, if you'd drop the "I'm right/it's someone else's problem" attitude, I'd be very willing to help
I never judge people for inexperience, I judge them for the attitude they display alongside that inexperience
wraith apex
I'm not a hobbiest
prime reef
you are objectively wrong on multiple counts and we've explained why
wraith apex
lol
wraith apex
??
ivory sleet
Anhwylder chill a bit
prime reef
yeah mb, i'm getting unreasonably fired up here
wraith apex
the fucking insults man
ivory sleet
Try to keep this constructive
wraith apex
chill
wraith apex
xD
prime reef
not sure what's up with me tonight
ivory sleet
I mean like, avoding encapsulation is just absurd but yeah, dw allg
i mean sure its possible
but so is a lot of things
singletons are already procedural enough as is, no need to make them stand out as that, we are trying object orienting ourselves at the end in java, we try to abstract away implementations to make things self conservative for long term, god idk even how long 5 years, maybe 10 or even 20
barren nacelle
wow I've created an argument over correct coding practices for java
ivory sleet
and also write once run everywhere (which is completely incorrect but im just gonna spit it out lol)
Anyway im gonna re qoute myself
"You know how much Java suffered cause of System.out and System.in hell just look at the implementation!? If we want to restrain consumers from touching our data unrestrained then you can't just do that whenever you feel like. Let's say the code you write becomes exposed to external modularity or you define an api layer, or you need to add thread safety, or maybe alter the implementation entirely. Why do you think Java decided to make record components expose methods and not final fields?"