help-development

[rotund ravine]

.toVector

[kind hatch]

I started with 3 text boxes.
Made text box 1 and 2 auto layout (grouping 1)
Made text 3 auto layout. (grouping 2)
Selected group 1 and group 2 and made them auto layout.
Centered the group using the auto layout grid.
Changed group 1 resizing property to fill.

Then anything extra like icon and box shadow came afterwards.

[vagrant stratus]

Just not sure how I screwed up though 🤔

[smoky oak]

wait, doesnt toVector concern direction?

[young knoll]

No

A location as a vector is just xyz

Well with toVector that is

If you use getDirection that will involve the pitch and yaw

[sage patio]

Any idea how can i figure out if a location is in a region? (i've a custom region object which it contains x-y-z 1 and 2)

[young knoll]

Turn it into a bounding box

Bounding boxes have methods for that, and a bunch of other stuff

[kind hatch]

If you want I can show you how I did it via screenshare.

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, that would probably be easier 😆

Luckily I only need to do this kind of stuff once, since I can just save it and re-use it

Making me get my phone out LMAO

[lunar wigeon]

Life is like Hello World - you can't live without it
~ Andrut Kokosowski

[sage patio]

the green lines are the blocks/locations the bounding box contains

also i set all of the locations

[vagrant stratus]

https://www.figma.com/file/YTxGBC31D7nDz7w7eifzEn/Android-UI-Kit-(Community)?type=design&t=dKAIqqR6msQThjXq-6

[young knoll]

Sounds like you just need to expand your bounding box

[sage patio]

any way to fix the problem instead of expanding?

[young knoll]

If you pass on the correct corners to BoundingBox.of it should be fine

If not you probably need to add 1 to the x and z of the max corner

[sage patio]

but its not unfortunately

i'm using worldguard api to get the pos1 & 2

so it should be fine

thank you for help

[young knoll]

Worldedit had cuboidregion which should function similarly

[echo basalt]

?

[shadow gazelle]

Is there a way to add glowing to a player with a specific color?

Without a team

[scenic valve]

What do you mean by specific color?

[kind hatch]

Glow color is defined by a Player's scoreboard team color.

[scenic valve]

Ah, thought they meant like coloured names or something like that

[cursive kite]

I am trying to decide a good database set up, I want a users table for UUID, rank, etc… I also need a factions table to store faction ID, faction name, faction description etc…. But how should I tie a user to a faction as I don’t really want to add faction to the user table since later I plan to expand to more than factions… but I need to be able to store which faction a player it and their faction rank

I also want to have a log of faction actions such as rename, kicked player, added players… but am not sure how I should design a table for that either

[forest minnow]

Have a users table, a factions table, and users-factions (this will be a many to many).

[cursive kite]

Even though each player can only be in one faction?

And whats the best way to go about a faction history log

[subtle folio]

what you want to do is store the faction id that relates to the faction table inside of the players table

then for a history you can make a faction history table that stores a foreign key to the faction

it’ll be importsnt that instead of deleting a faction row (bc it will have history referencing it) you can either remove everyone from that faction and let it collect dust to persev the history, or just delete the history related to it first

[cursive kite]

I kinda want it so if a faction is deleted the log is not

[tight bison]

I'm trying to set the item a Witch entity holds, but it's not working. The server I'm testing it on is Paper 1.12.2:

final Witch witch = (Witch) super.spawnEntity(location);
witch.getEquipment().setItemInMainHand(new ItemStack(Material.EXPERIENCE_BOTTLE));

The super.spawnEntity() method just returns an entity, which is of type Witch.

[subtle folio]

how would the log know what faction was deleted without it being stored in the database?

[subtle folio]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[glad prawn]

wat

[tight bison]

You're right, my bad.

[cursive kite]

That is what I am trying to figure out

Maybe I could have a flag, active or deleted for each fraction

[subtle folio]

just keep the faction toes

row

history is good

yes a for isActive

[cursive kite]

Awesome!

Any specific way I should setup the log table so I dont have to fix too much later on

factionuuid, playeruuid, action, desc?

[subtle folio]

sure

time of occurrence maybe?

[cursive kite]

thank you so much!

I wonder how I should store faction ids though

Basically right now I gen a random UUID and just ensure it is not currently used

But that is with config so its easier

More difficult to gen a random uid and ensure it doesnt exist within all the active/deleted factions

Maybe an id (autoi increment), factionuuid,

But then that doesnt solve the issue of overlapping uuids i guess

[subtle folio]

well mysql has an auto increment functionality

[slender elbow]

rest assured you will never witness uuid collisions tho

[subtle folio]

depending on what database your using it should all be the same

[subtle folio]

this is not guaranteed

[slender elbow]

it isn't, but the odds are infinitesimal

[subtle folio]

even with an insanely high unlikelihood it’s not 100% guaranteed meaning it’s not practical for production use

[slender elbow]

like yes technically if you have a 8192-bit number that is generated with guaranteed randomness eventually 🤓 in a billion years the odds of two matching will be 2%

realistically it won't happen

[subtle folio]

but it misses out on that opportunity 🙃

[slender elbow]

lol

[subtle folio]

it’s uuid not guid

tho i think that is also easy to implement within mysql itself

lemme look

[cursive kite]

I think imma have log_id faction_uuid issuer_uuid target_uuid action and desc

and have issuer/target nullable

Hopefulyl this will work long term

[quaint mantle]

if you are generating like 50b a sec or smth

[warm mica]

Uuids and guids are basically the same thing

[half swan]

I would like to make a spigot plugin that makes a new world with just an arena in it, and the rest void (or normal world generation, doesn't really matter).
I've found some resources that show how to make Minecraft world generation yourself, but I can't seem to find anything to make like just a single structure of some sorts.
Do I just make a method that creates a new world and set the blocks one by one (seems inefficient)?

How would I approach this?

Any help would be appreciated 👍

[eternal oxide]

Use the StructureManager to create/paste a template https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/structure/StructureManager.html

[quaint mantle]

i use world edit for templates but whatever you want lol

[eternal oxide]

Spigot/Minecraft has built in structures so no need for WE

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Bukkit.html#getStructureManager()

[quaint mantle]

i use worldedit for bigger structures (bigger than structure limit)

[half swan]

I'm afraid I don't understand how I could use this to make a structure for the first time
How I see it is, I can save a structure that's already stored somewhere and place it again, copy it,...

[wide coyote]

can we load worldedit created schematics using this?

I knew this existsed but I am not sure if we can actually load schematics

[quaint mantle]

then use worldedit api lol

[wide coyote]

I already do, just asking

[hybrid spoke]

fawe ftw

[eternal oxide]

You create a Structure, then #fill

then save if you want to keep it

[half swan]

could you maybe give me a little example code or something?

[eternal oxide]

to paste one you load it, then paste

manager = Bukkit.getStructureManager();
structure = manager.createStructure();
structure.fill(location1, location2, false);
manager.saveStructure(key, structure);```

that will create an nbt file for that structure

to load and paste it's very simple

structure = manager.loadStructure(key);
structure.place(location, false, StructureRotation.NONE, Mirror.None, 0, 1, new Random());```

you only need to load it once

then you can use teh manager.getStructure

[echo basalt]

How optimized is the structure manager?

[eternal oxide]

very poor

[echo basalt]

shit so I can't really use it in my Cosmos plugin

[eternal oxide]

teh manager is fine, but pasting is slow. As slow as WE

I did a test using structures to paste a chunk at generation in a void. It was slow

[quaint mantle]

you can always use worldedit :p

[echo basalt]

How slow

[eternal oxide]

pointless unless you want to paste a MASSIVE structure and then WE will kill yoru server anyway

[echo basalt]

Like would it be a viable alternative to just using worldedit for skyblock islands

or does it take like a minute

[eternal oxide]

server keep up messages as you moves pasting in chunk gen

oh yeah you could easily do islands

[hybrid spoke]

f-a-w-e

[quaint mantle]

there is i think multithreaded version of worldedit or something

[kind hatch]

@sullen marlin Would it be fine to remove "May be null" text on methods that are annotated with @NotNull & @Nullable?

[eternal oxide]

probably not

as those annotations don't force compliance

[quaint mantle]

just give it @Nullable

or use Optional

to force compliance

[icy beacon]

recode it in rust

[quaint mantle]

what

[icy beacon]

no null - problem solved

[quaint mantle]

rust supports null

[icy beacon]

there are Option and Result that are used instead of null

[echo basalt]

I'm worried about latency though

shit I guess I should just fuck around and find out

[quaint mantle]

https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/ptr/fn.null.html

it is useful for multithreading

[eternal oxide]

pre load the structure and you only have the overhead of pasting

[icy beacon]

welp my knowledge of rust is really basic because I just started learning it

but it doesn't seem like it would have that many use cases

[eternal oxide]

Skyblock isn;t going to be pasting new structures that often

[quaint mantle]

low level multi threading

[icy beacon]

feels like most times you could use result and option

[icy beacon]

could you give an example of how null could be used there? I'm struggling to come up with a use case

[quaint mantle]

when the value isnt yet initialized and you are trying to do data race for threads to initialize it

[upper hazel]

an urgent question, they took me to the team to create plugins on the server, they ask me how much I’m ready for this is the first time what fee to take once a week

[quaint mantle]

or controlled memory leaking

[echo basalt]

yeye

what's the Random for

can I pass null

I don't like having randoms

[eternal oxide]

the random is used if you have damage

[icy beacon]

pardon me but a month ago or so you were trying to save a horse to a file and now you're working, did you have a really good learning curve or are you still coming shit

[echo basalt]

hm

ThreadLocalRandom.current it is

[icy beacon]

oh welp

[eternal oxide]

oh and for loot

[quaint mantle]

cool low level multi threading where you need to handle memory manually in rust

[upper hazel]

I have gained skills now everything is fine more or less

[echo basalt]

Yeah I don't use loot

[quaint mantle]

due to cpu and language limitations regarding multi threading

[eternal oxide]

passing a seeded random you can ensure it's integrity(if used) and loot will always generate teh same each time

[echo basalt]

I wonder if there's a way to make an empty structure

[quaint mantle]

or i think you would use also null pointer for one way channels

[eternal oxide]

yes you can create an empty structure

[echo basalt]

with a predetermined size

that's just air

[eternal oxide]

yes, just save air

[quaint mantle]

or you can also save structure void

[echo basalt]

uhh

Does the structure have a center or is the center the lowest corner

[quaint mantle]

which is less than air

[quaint mantle]

you can manually set corners

[echo basalt]

trying to make a getDimensions() method which returns the min and max offset compared to the center of the structure

but I only have a getSize which returns a single vector

[quaint mantle]

you need to try and see

[eternal oxide]

if I remember the structure is corner based

[echo basalt]

ffs

[quaint mantle]

yeah they are

[echo basalt]

time to hold a Vector anchor

[eternal oxide]

Structure has a getSize so you can easily calculate it's center

[echo basalt]

nah I'll just use an anchor offset passed by my serializer

Can I create a structure of pre-determined size hm

[icy beacon]

well I take 500₽/hr, you can convert that to your currency

but iirc you're also Russian

[echo basalt]

maybe by passing a hacked location where getBlock always returns air

[upper hazel]

besides, given that we are talking about business, I am 100 percent sure that there will be shit code there, so everything is fine))

[eternal oxide]

you could try passing a location above build height

[sullen marlin]

Usually the docs explain why though

[icy beacon]

if you're working for a foreign company, e.g. USA, then the standard fee would be much higher (because, well, pricings differ between countries)

[icy beacon]

based

[echo basalt]

ehh these are just nms wrappers

fuck

It'd actually make me save an empty version of it

I can probably do that on startup

[eternal oxide]

you don;t have to save

[echo basalt]

well

[eternal oxide]

you can create/use without ever saving

[echo basalt]

I'm aware

my plugin's about saving and loading structures and pasting them on a grid

There's simply no Structure#setDimensions or a way to fill it without reading blocks

and just assuming it's air

[upper hazel]

based on source views and videos

[eternal oxide]

pass a location thats above build height and it's guaranteed to be air

[echo basalt]

yeah but it's still reading

[icy beacon]

ik that's why I said it's based

[upper hazel]

oh

bad speak

english

[eternal oxide]

yes, but you always have one world and you only generate at startup

[echo basalt]

eh fuck it I can read it once and save it in the db

[upper hazel]

I sometimes don't understand English slang

[icy beacon]

you'll get there

[desert tinsel]

is there any event from when a player changes his slot from the main hand?

like with his mouse wheel or the keyboard

[sullen marlin]

PlayerHeldItemChangeEvent or something

[desert tinsel]

PlayerChangedMainHandEvent can this be?

[sullen marlin]

PlayerItemHeldEvent

[twilit roost]

is there something like spigot config api but for bungee?

im getting tired of how bad it is on bungee
im making auto update config system, but want to keep comments while adding new values

its easy to do when new values aren't inside existing sections
but inside existing sections its just straight up impossible

soo is there something like the api or some other way to solve my problem?

[lilac dagger]

wasn't there one?

pretty sure there was

[onyx fjord]

i use boostedyaml

[twilit roost]

oh my
never heard of it

looks promising!
thanks so much

[lilac dagger]

what about this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-do-i-make-a-config-file-for-my-bungee-plugin.321147/

isn't this built in?

after all bungee does use yml

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/bungeecords-configuration-api.11214/

like for real

😄

there is a system on bungee

why not use it?

[white root]

even if there was just no built in configuration system, shading and using snakeyml isnt difficult

or you could go even more simple and just use json/gson

[tulip owl]

How can I get the location of bukkit.yml, It would be useful for my debug command as settings in there quite often cause issues? As it can be moved with --bukkit-settings I cannot just look in the standard position and searching for it seams a bit jank 😆.

There is getBukkitConfig() in the Paper API but I cannot use the Paper API sadly :(

[onyx fjord]

and you shouldnt

[tulip owl]

Is there an alternative in the Spigot API?

[hybrid spoke]

get the plugins folder location and step one out 🤔

[onyx fjord]

maybe you can look for -bukkit-settings

and if the arg is present use that path

otherwise the default

[hybrid spoke]

ah nvm it can be moved didnt read that

[tulip owl]

That was the plan but I couldn't think of how to get that option

[hybrid spoke]

you could also check what paper does

[tulip owl]

Good point

[echo basalt]

yeah it accesses the configuration field on CraftServer

Nothing's stopping you from using reflections to access it

[onyx fjord]

what do you wanna retrieve from bukkit settings

[echo basalt]

Server server = Bukkit.getServer();
Class<?> serverClass = server.getClass();

Field configurationField = serverClass.getDeclaredField("configuration");

if(configurationField == null) {
  return null;
}

configurationField.setAccessible(true);
YamlConfiguration config = (YamlConfiguration) configurationField.get(server);

lmfao

[tulip owl]

Preferably the whole file

I might just search for it after looking in the standard position

[echo basalt]

or just use reflections and move on

[hybrid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-meme-dont-make-me-fire-you-you-wouldnt-dare-gif-15719142

[tulip owl]

:(

[onyx fjord]

yeah but for what purpose

[tulip owl]

Debug command that will upload it to paste.gg etc

[distant wave]

is there anyone who knows how to use lightapi?

[tulip owl]

https://dontasktoask.com

[hybrid spoke]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[warm mica]

They have an example on their product page

Import the library, add it as a depend and use it as shown in their example

[distant wave]

im having troubles with reseting the light level back to the normal state

i know how to import a library

[warm mica]

I don't think that's easily possible, you'd possibly have to enforce a block update, so that the light levels are being recalculated

[glacial narwhal]

Is it possible to remove a recipe when its crafted ?

[rough drift]

you can easily

[warm mica]

i.a. block.getState().update();

[rough drift]

ye

[distant wave]

so does this makes sense to you that it doesnt work?

[warm mica]

I meant not easily in the context of that you cant just efficiently reevert it in their api

[lost matrix]

You mean to disable a recipe after it has been crafted once by someone?

[glacial narwhal]

ye

[lost matrix]

Per player or for the wholse server?

[warm mica]

Looks good, but you may also replace the if statement with
if (oldLightLevels.remove(location) != null)

[glacial narwhal]

wholse server

[distant wave]

well it does nothing, i just leave the path with light behind

altough it passes that statement

[warm mica]

and remove the .getName()

[lost matrix]

Listen for when an item is cratfted, add the recipe to a Set, and cancel the PrepareItemCraftEvent
if a recipe of that set is crafted again.

[distant wave]

cant

[warm mica]

https://github.com/BeYkeRYkt/LightAPI/blob/5.0/bukkit-common/src/main/java/ru/beykerykt/minecraft/lightapi/bukkit/api/extension/IBukkitExtension.java
I guess that you cast it to IExtension

[glacial narwhal]

ye but then if i want to do it for all crafts how do i do?

[distant wave]

or i use different version...

maybe i misused some fork

its possible

[lost matrix]

Do you want to remove all recipes from the beginning?

[glacial narwhal]

no just when ex: "crafting table" it can no longer be crafted and so for all crafts

[lost matrix]

That is oddly specific... So if anyone crafts a Stick, then nobody can craft anything else afterwards?

[distant wave]

are you sure i dont need to update the blocks state afterwards?

[glacial narwhal]

then nobody can craft sticks again

[warm mica]

I don't think so, as you'd reset the light back to its original level

There are some flags you can pass, maybe they are useful

[lost matrix]

Listen for when an item is cratfted, add the recipe to a Set, and cancel the PrepareItemCraftEvent
if a recipe of that set is crafted again.

[glacial narwhal]

thx

[young knoll]

You can just add the recipes key to the set

Also makes saving it across restarts easier

[distant wave]

its weird, i just used the update() and it did nothing

[warm mica]

You must set the first paramater to true to force it

It won't apply it as the material is already the same

[lost matrix]

Try a force update

[smoky oak]

I'm about 95% sure nobody in here had an issue like this before (and i haven't started working on it yet so i dont have any code to show for it), but does any of yall know if there's an uniform way to determine how semi-transparent blocks shift particle colors?
My ultimate goal here is to make particles 'visible' over longer distances by scaling them and projecting them closer to the player

[distant wave]

okay let me restart the servr

nope

[young knoll]

Wdy visible over longer distance

[distant wave]

still

[smoky oak]

particles get eaten after they're 31.5 blocks away

they just

[glacial narwhal]

what is the Set ?

[smoky oak]

pop out of existence

[young knoll]

There’s a Boolean for that

[smoky oak]

its a client side thing afaik

[lost matrix]

You can change the range of visible particles when creating them...

[smoky oak]

seriously?

[smoky anchor]

I don't think you can ?

[young knoll]

There’s a spawnParticle method with a Boolean force

force - whether to send the particle to players within an extended range and encourage their client to render it regardless of settings

[smoky oak]

its only giving me this method

[smoky anchor]

That's not spawning the particle

[smoky oak]

oh wait

yea i just realized

lol

[glacial narwhal]

What is the set ?

[smoky anchor]

Also, not every particle has the size parameter

[lost matrix]

Any set

[glacial narwhal]

string ?

[lost matrix]

HashSet would be best suited

[lost matrix]

NamespacedKey

[glacial narwhal]

thanks

[smoky oak]

I can't seem to find it, interestingly enough. IJ only shows me a bunch of doubles, but i dont see a bool in that list

[lost matrix]

Version?

[smoky oak]

im on latest

[smoky anchor]

world.spawnParticle

[smoky oak]

well yea

[lost matrix]

Do you use Player#spawnParticle or World#spawnParticle

[smoky anchor]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#spawnParticle(org.bukkit.Particle,double,double,double,int,double,double,double,double,T,boolean)

[smoky oak]

what the f

[young knoll]

Hmm yeah interestingly only the world version has it

[smoky anchor]

Hmm true...
Seems like a bug or something

[smoky oak]

i mean im not going to spawn more than 35k particles in anyways

should be fine

[glacial narwhal]

i never used "collection", "set", "list" how can i check if the set contains the namespacedkey ?

[young knoll]

The client won’t render more than 16k

By default

[smoky anchor]

set.contains

[smoky oak]

really?

[lost matrix]

By calling contains on the set

[young knoll]

Ye

[smoky oak]

I've stress tested that though?

[glacial narwhal]

thanks

[smoky oak]

it rendered anything below 40k in one go

wait

[smoky anchor]

do you perhaps have some mods ?

[young knoll]

Check the P count in f3

[smoky oak]

no

is it total particles or particle packets

cuz i send em in 4k packets saying 'spawn 10 particles' each

[smoky anchor]

well the packets will still be sent, but client will clear the oldest particles

[glacial narwhal]

how can i get the namespaced key of the recipe

[smoky anchor]

I am not gonna spoon feed you
Look into the docs

if you do recipe. any good IDE will tell you all the methods

[lost matrix]

Just looked at CraftPlayer.
Player#spawnParticle always overrides the spawn limiter for the particle packet.
This means particles sent this way should always be displayed.

[shadow night]

What even is CraftBukkit and what is it for

[young knoll]

Nice

[smoky anchor]

on the server ?
Don't see how that would affect client

[young knoll]

CraftBukkit is the implementation of the Bukkit api

[lost matrix]

CraftBukkit is the implementation of the Spigot API.
It acts as a bridge so that your spigot method calls actually reach the game (nms) objects.

[hybrid spoke]

the bridge between spigot api and minecraft

[young knoll]

There are two things, by default particles only render within like 32 blocks, but the server can tell the client to render them further

There’s also the hard cap of 16k particles rendering at once

[shadow night]

Oh yeah that makes sense

[lost matrix]

The packet has a distance limit override parameter to tell the client to render the
particle regardless of distance.

[smoky anchor]

Oh you mean the distance limit for particle spawning ?
I thought you meant overriding the count limit.

[young knoll]

Yeah distance limit

Afaik you can’t override the count limit

[smoky anchor]

Would require client modification

[lost matrix]

That would be griefing, lul

[smoky anchor]

I wonder, can you still spawn 10000000 particles and crash the client ?
Anybody wanna test that ? :D

[hybrid spoke]

that would be funny

[young knoll]

Probably not because of the limit

The client actually patched some crash exploits recently

[smoky anchor]

Depends on how the limit is implemented

[young knoll]

Ie explosions with massive power levels

[glacial narwhal]

how can i cancel the event ?

[young knoll]

(Power level is now capped to 255)

[smoky anchor]

try google buddy

[young knoll]

Set the result to null

[lost matrix]

I actually trolled a friend of mine by sending thousands of particle packets below the world to him.
His frames dropped to unplayable levels and he didnt know why he was the only one... That was within
the first week of learning spigot. Time usefully spent.

[smoky anchor]

:D

[young knoll]

Lul

[drowsy helm]

Learnt packets first week of learning spigot?

Took me half a year lmao

[lost matrix]

I mean by calling Player#spawnParticle. Not using packets directly.

[shadow night]

The first week of learning spigot I tried to understand wtf this programming language is

[lost matrix]

Ah yes. Windows 7, Eclipse, and too much time

He was not amused

[shadow night]

Who tf is Fiera and why do they stink

Firea*

[quaint mantle]

packets are that hard?

[rotund ravine]

Not really anymor with the mappings

The hard part is making it do what you want

[lost matrix]

Understanding what packets are if you have never learned about networking or how
multiplayer games work, is really hard to get a grasp of.

Wow im just discovering all the projects from my beginning. This was week 3.

[echo basalt]

mans got the mic on

time to boost the audio by 1000% to hear smile breathing

[lost matrix]

lol

[echo basalt]

It's.. not that complex

[lost matrix]

I thought i was the coolest little guy when i discoverd this

[echo basalt]

There's a way we can oversimplify it

[smoky oak]

can super be called after other operations in @Override methods?

[echo basalt]

yes

Or you can just.. not call it

[young knoll]

nice

[echo basalt]

welcome to inheritance

[young knoll]

super only has to be first in constructors

[smoky oak]

actually let me rephrase that

can you tell the method thats being ovverriden 'Execute this code, then what you're overridden with, then this code'?

[young knoll]

yes

[echo basalt]

so

[young knoll]

Oh wait

[echo basalt]

@Override
public void doWhatever() {
  this.doSomething();
  super.doWhatever();
}

but it's not any different from

[young knoll]

So you want your overriden code to be in the middle of the original code

[drowsy helm]

Half a year is an exaggeration but packets can be scary for newbies

[echo basalt]

doSomething()
doWhatever()
joe

[smoky oak]

ah i forgot about this that'd do it, thanks

actually wait no it wouldnt

thats the wrong method

[twilit roost]

well I didn't say there wasn't one
I was just saying it is ( in relation to Spigots ) bad

but that boostedyaml seems great enough for me to never touch bungees config api again

[smoky oak]

i meant if i could retain code from the method thats being overridden, not the method thats doing the overriding

[echo basalt]

xy problem

[smoky oak]

ah basically

i want to make a marker 'this method has been run'

problem being while i could easily do this with creating another method that sets that flag etc, it would break anything that depends on the class

[young knoll]

Have you heard of

ASM

[smoky oak]

no

[echo basalt]

no point in asm

just debug shit

or well ideally you'd use decorators

[smoky oak]

what are those?

[echo basalt]

it's a pattern that acts as a sort of proxy

[young knoll]

Don't ruin the fun

[echo basalt]

It's a weird ass pattern but

public interface StringProcessor {

  String process(String input);

}

public abstract class StringDecorator implements StringProcessor {

  private final StringProcessor processor;

  protected StringDecorator(StringProcessor processor) {
    this.processor = processor;
  }

  @Override
  public String process(String input) {
    return processor.process(input);
  }
}

It's a weird ass pattern

But basically it lets you do shit like

public class FancyStringDecorator extends StringDecorator {
  
  public FancyStringDecorator(StringProcessor processor) {
    super(processor);
  }

  @Override
  public String process(String input) {
    return "Fancy" + super.process(input);
  }
}

public class WackyStringDecorator extends StringDecorator {
  
  public WackyStringDecorator(StringProcessor processor) {
    super(processor);
  }

  @Override
  public String process(String input) {
    return super.process(input) + "Wacky";
  }
}

And lets you somewhat control the order of things by extending the decorator class

and doing the operations before calling super

or after calling super

tbh it might not be the right pattern here

but it's an interesting pattern to keep in mind

[smoky oak]

ah i see what you mean, though that wouldn't solve my issue, I'm trying to interject code between two 'layers' of inheritance
BukkitRunnable -> SpecialRunnable -> Non-class runnable thats actually getting run
I want to, in the special runnable, set a mark in run(), though i cannot recall right now why

[lost matrix]

This looks suspiciously like a Function<String, String> to me 🙂

[echo basalt]

not this argument again

[lost matrix]

XD

[glad prawn]

Nah both u again

[echo basalt]

we're like 2 old men bickering

[smoky oak]

youre like 19

[echo basalt]

I'm 18

[smoky anchor]

not again

[smoky oak]

yea

[young knoll]

If you need me i'll be not here

[echo basalt]

still trying to think wtf this 2am ping was about

while people were talking about DDOSing

[serene sigil]

hey, does anyone know how to get the IP address (the one where you can connect from) in spigot?

so you can connect with it

[autumn cave]

I don't understand, Bukkit.createInventory(owner, size, title) returns an Inventory but neither that class or CraftInventory contain a title? Where is the inventory title stored?

[echo basalt]

In the InventoryView

It's weird

[autumn cave]

How do I get an InventoryView? (without player.openInventory(...))?

[young knoll]

Idk why inventory doesn't have a get/set title

[worldly ingot]

Well, it's stored in the inventory but it's not accessible via API because it doesn't make sense to

[smoky oak]

thres a method in player for that

[young knoll]

what about a setTitle

[serene sigil]

in player?

[smoky oak]

ye

[echo basalt]

anyways

The title is actually stored in the nms container

iirc

[young knoll]

Currently to change the title of my static inventory I have to rebuild the entire thing

sadge

[echo basalt]

packts

[young knoll]

No no

The inventory not the view

[autumn cave]

Ahhh, ok

[young knoll]

I can change the title of the view with the new setTitle method

[serene sigil]

u mean player.getAddress()?

but that returns the players ip

i want the server ip

[lost matrix]

Bukkit.getServer().getIp()
Bukkit.getServer().getPort()

[autumn cave]

Do you guys know the exact field the title is stored within CraftInventory?

[echo basalt]

ping ipchicken and read the html data lmfao

[echo basalt]

There's none

[serene sigil]

actually, i did that, and tested it out on a minehut server, but it was an empty string

when is it not null?

[echo basalt]

something about online mode? no clue I don't use that

[smoky oak]

if you want that you should be able to just make a call from java's internals, somehow. Worst to worst i bet theres some api around websites like canyouseeme.org that you can ping

[lost matrix]

This returns the IP from server.properties

[serene sigil]

oh

[young knoll]

isn't that usually blank

[serene sigil]

yea

[lost matrix]

You can also go the classic way and use InetAddress

InetAddress IP = InetAddress.getLocalHost();

[young knoll]

F

[echo basalt]

ahh good ol' InetAddress

last time I used it was when I was an intern at a school and made a shitty java class that would wipe folders and store the ip address on a .txt file

[serene sigil]

with this, you can connect to the server remotely?

[lost matrix]

You also need the port the server is running on

[serene sigil]

yea

[smoky oak]

i couldve sworn that spat out the LAN address, not the WAN

[serene sigil]

doesnt that give the machine address?

[hybrid spoke]

@echo basalt watch out daddy

[echo basalt]

oh shit

[hasty prawn]

[echo basalt]

a literal god is coming after me

[lost matrix]

[echo basalt]

time do draw a pentagram

[smoky oak]

nah

a circle of salt is enough

[hybrid spoke]

yeah, summon me

[smoky oak]

hes not a real god

[echo basalt]

idk I'm not religious

I can just deny your existence

[hybrid spoke]

im not that bear from spongebob

[quaint mantle]

what god

[smoky oak]

see thing is youre not omnipotent so beliefs do apply to you

[hybrid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-end-game-thanos-dies-end-of-thonos-thanos-defeated-gif-14055334

[smoky oak]

demons get warded off by salt

[echo basalt]

everytime I read the word spongebob this music plays in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xILQRZ1F1OE

[smoky oak]

as a result so do you

[serene sigil]

@lost matrix

[echo basalt]

it's my favorite gym song

[hybrid spoke]

do you know what a mac adress is

[serene sigil]

no

[hybrid spoke]

oh

?bing then

[undone axle]

Bing your question before asking it:
https://www.bing.com/

[hybrid spoke]

& https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/net/InetAddress.html#getLocalHost--

[serene sigil]

fuck bing

[glacial narwhal]

how can i set the result of a recipe "null" without making a new craft ?

[autumn cave]

How to convert BaseComponent to nms Component?

[lost matrix]

Probably. For your public ip you would need to do some requests.

[smoky oak]

its the thing you change to get more limited wifi at airports

[hybrid spoke]

its the thing you change when you get banned in fortnite

[serene sigil]

well, i need the ip with what you can connect to the server

like externally

[lost matrix]

But your public IP could be shared between devices if you are behind a NAT

[quaint mantle]

people use bing?

[serene sigil]

?

[hazy parrot]

just make request on some api to get wan address

https://www.ipify.org for example

[smoky anchor]

Should be
event.getInventory().setResult(new ItemStack(Material.AIR));
But really, learn how to google these questions.

[serene sigil]

wait, wan address = public ip?

[hazy parrot]

yes

[lost matrix]

Cancel the PrepareItemCraftEvent

[young knoll]

Not cancellable

[lost matrix]

Thats weak

[young knoll]

event.getInventory.setResult(null)

[hybrid spoke]

coll faster than he can delete

[lost matrix]

If the event is fired before the preparation then this needs to be delayed by a tick.

[young knoll]

It's fired after

[hybrid spoke]

how would it be fired before

[glacial narwhal]

doesn't work

[lost matrix]

This sounds like it should be fired before and have a setResult() method honestly

[young knoll]

I mean

[glacial narwhal]

you cant cancel this event

[young knoll]

It does, i've used it before

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[hasty prawn]

Well if it was fired before it could just be cancellable

[lost matrix]

That as well

[hybrid spoke]

if it was fired before it could predict the future

[lost matrix]

How so?

[opal carbon]

fym ive done this before too

[hybrid spoke]

how would it know what the player places in before the player places in

or am i braindead

[echo basalt]

The event has a setResult that can be null

[lost matrix]

I dont think so

[echo basalt]

Unless we're talking about diff things

[opal carbon]

the inventory for prepareitemcraft you can get result and set to null

[echo basalt]

Idk I'm just waiting for my pizza

[lost matrix]

Its fired after the player places an item in but before the recipe is evaluated on the table.

[tender shard]

which kind of pizza

[young knoll]

The inventory has a setResult that can be set to null

[echo basalt]

Uhh

[young knoll]

Not the event it self

[opal carbon]

i mean having the output item can be useful though

[echo basalt]

Pepperoni

[tender shard]

nice

[echo basalt]

Domino's

[opal carbon]

sometimes

idk

[hybrid spoke]

so im braindead alright

didnt slept for 48 hours

[echo basalt]

I used to go with ham as a kid

But it's a bit too bland

[lost matrix]

You have the Recipe. This gives you the predicted item.

[young knoll]

It's fired after the output is calculated

Hence why you have the recipe and output

[opal carbon]

idk just feels wierd its fine the way it is

[lost matrix]

I still feel like it would be more consistent with other events if it was fired before the item
is placed in the result slot. Implementing cancellable and setResult() methods would be
really usefull here.

[opal carbon]

then just make it so if its cancelled it sets the result to null

instead of reordering things wierdly

[echo basalt]

ayy I got my food

[lost matrix]

Currently this event is fired in a weird order imo.
I dont see a reason for it being fired after the preparation
and not before. It would be so much more powerful if fired before.

[hasty prawn]

You sharing?

[lost matrix]

Gimme a slice

[hasty prawn]

Also yeah I agree with 7smile I don't really understand why it's fired after

[echo basalt]

well shit

[opal carbon]

idk just feels like a wierd idea why not just set result item to null

[echo basalt]

not sure about dessie but if smile DMs me his address I can get him a pizza

[opal carbon]

its not a real problem

[hasty prawn]

thats rough man

[echo basalt]

on me

[smoky anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/my-strawberry-anime-cute-kawaii-k-on-gif-13454925

[echo basalt]

sorry you aren't a literal prodigy

[hasty prawn]

yeah i get it i can't compete

i asked first but its whatever 😢

[hybrid spoke]

thought you are broke

[echo basalt]

I got paid this morning

and today's invoice day

bossman came back from the dead

[hybrid spoke]

i'll take 2 pizzas

one peperoni and one salami

[echo basalt]

you aren't a prodigy either

also you threatened me like 20 mins ago

[hybrid spoke]

rightfully

[echo basalt]

mans cosplaying as magmaguy

[opal carbon]

also you can mess with the item

[echo basalt]

I should frame his roasts

[opal carbon]

with this

[lost matrix]

Its inconsistent with how events are usually handled. Changing the result of an event
after its effects have already been applied to the world instead of changing the outcome
by calling the events methods is always a bit hacky and indicates a design problem.

[opal carbon]

if u just have the recipe wouldnt it be signifigantly more limited

[echo basalt]

can't wait for mixins

[smoky anchor]

wait are we getting those ?

[echo basalt]

someone should just make a mixin thing

so that we can actually like

[young knoll]

They have

[lost matrix]

You have the recipe and the result that is about to be placed in the output slot

[quaint mantle]

you can have mixins on spigot i think

[echo basalt]

fuck around and find out

[young knoll]

It's called ignite

[echo basalt]

type deal

[young knoll]

https://github.com/vectrix-space/ignite

[quaint mantle]

you can just add mixin library into your project lol

[eternal night]

you want mixins until you realise half the people in #help-development are going to absolutely trash your server internals

[opal carbon]

and then ur able to modify the result?

[young knoll]

Yeah it's not that easy lol

[lost matrix]

Yes

[echo basalt]

allows for limitless possibilities

[young knoll]

Just because you have the library, the server needs to actually load them

[opal carbon]

cause then thats just very similar to what we already have

unless im misunderstanding

[echo basalt]

like injecting a bunch of chunk stuff and making multi-threaded stuff

[young knoll]

That's half the fun

[eternal night]

limitless stupidity

[quaint mantle]

does mixins extras and mixins² also works?

[echo basalt]

paywall it

[young knoll]

kek

[eternal night]

probably best

[echo basalt]

and ban those who can afford

[young knoll]

You need a jvm arg

--mydevsreallyknowwhattheyaredoingiswear

[hybrid spoke]

and sell unbans

[echo basalt]

--ImNotStupidISwear

[young knoll]

--plzdaddygimmethemixins

[eternal night]

imagine debugging a server issue and some plugin just, yanked out half the server implementation 🙃

[echo basalt]

:)

[hasty prawn]

D:

[lost matrix]

On that note i just realized that every time we have to suggest "run it one tick later" its
probably a flaw with the API that should be resolved...

[echo basalt]

that's why I hate the 1 tick approach

imagine a PostEventEvent

wait no

[hasty prawn]

Isn't the 1 tick delay usually what makes inventory duplication possible?

[echo basalt]

yes

[young knoll]

I can already destroy the server's internals with ASM

Mixins just saves me the effort

[echo basalt]

still waiting for the day we have dedicated minecraft server hardware

[eternal night]

See, an entry barrier isn't the worst

[echo basalt]

dedicated lighting chip

[opal carbon]

real

[quaint mantle]

so server cpus made to run java?

[young knoll]

Yeah but the ASM approch relies on janky runtime attachment

[echo basalt]

nah we port half the stuff to jni

[lost matrix]

You can probably do some really really fast word generations by using FPGAs if you can
boil it down to a decently low level.

[echo basalt]

make a world generator using graphics cards

then some sort of encoder into .mca

"yeah bro I bought this 4090 to generate minecraft worlds"

[young knoll]

Sounds like NFTWorlds

[lost matrix]

I mean... technically you could abuse shaders if you have a ton of parallel chunk requests.

[echo basalt]

rip half my income because of those bastards

[young knoll]

They are dead now

Well

Kinda

[echo basalt]

they've had recent layoffs

like

[young knoll]

They are making their own game

[echo basalt]

really really recent

[young knoll]

kekekekeke

[echo basalt]

One of my customers was a designer / moderator for them

no clue about the exact job

but lost her job last week

[young knoll]

Our master plan is centered around the following:

Modernized Game Engine - Craft a groundbreaking, Minecraft-like game engine from scratch that is built in a more performant and modern language (Rust) that resolves competitors' long-standing limitations, modernizes gameplay, and meets the evolving demands of players and creators.
Cross Compatibility - Ensure seamless transitions for players and creators with backwards compatibility for Minecraft's network protocols, allowing play compatibility with legacy Minecraft servers while using none of their assets or code.
Free, Everywhere - Deliver an unparalleled, free-to-play, cross-platform experience on all devices, including web browsers.
Support Creators - Empower content creators by offering them flexible monetization policies, state-of-the-art tools, and a unified player ecosystem. All of which is governed and directed for decision and feature development through creator-led governance.
Leverage Competitor Shortcomings - Captivate players and content creators with enhanced quality of life offerings, long-awaited features that competitors have failed to provide, and superior content.

It'll be in beta this year

Trust me

[echo basalt]

delivering today

[young knoll]

Also hytopia is a legend of zelda term

[echo basalt]

just for you my friend

[young knoll]

Wonder if nintento will nuke them

[zealous osprey]

That sounds legit like something you'd find on a sketchy gofundme or smth

[young knoll]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1694506416881766537

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[echo basalt]

you know it's legit when their webcam is in the corner

and they're a middle-aged dad with no programming experience

[young knoll]

Needs a bandicam logo

[echo basalt]

using a mac

there's no windows crypto users

all mac

[young knoll]

They go on to talk about all the hate on NFTS

[echo basalt]

either the most ergonomic office chair or a 5$ gaming chair

[lost matrix]

Wait... this makes me wonder about something else.
What happened to Hytale?

[young knoll]

I didn't listen to it but I'm sure it's amazing

Hytale is still coming

Eventually

[echo basalt]

being worked on by riot

they're rewriting everything in c++

ditching all the java code

including server-sided stuff

[young knoll]

What's the you wanted to use your java knowlege to make addons?

No fuck you you get LUA

[lost matrix]

Writing plugins must be really fun then.
The will probably throw some scripting language like lua at us.

[echo basalt]

probably

[vagrant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[hasty prawn]

If I wanted to write Lua I would go design a Roblox game

no thank you

[echo basalt]

apparently it's in the testing & bugfixing stage

[shadow night]

Lol

[young knoll]

The keys steps to making a good minecraft competitor

1. Build hype 10 years too early with a teaser video
2. Promise easy server modification with java
3. Switch it all to C++

[lost matrix]

They need to provide absolutely outstanding creator tools in order to
come close to minecraft...

[shadow night]

In this world it is not possible to create a worthy minecraft competitor

[young knoll]

Wdym

Hytopia is gonna be it

Imean hytale

Imean Yogventures

[eternal night]

[young knoll]

Imean... ah shit

[shadow night]

Somethings gonna happen and poof

[lost matrix]

[shadow night]

Or something already happened

[young knoll]

Tbh I want compitition

Make mojang expand the creator tools on java edition more

[shadow night]

Yeah, that will force mojang to do good

[young knoll]

I WANT MY DATA DRIVEN BLOCKS DAMIT

[eternal night]

I mean, mojang is already on it

with their recent snapshots

[young knoll]

mhh

They have the framework but they must deliver

[eternal night]

I mean, gotta give. them time lol

can't just release creator tools

[lost matrix]

I want data driven UIs. Data driven mobs. Everything.
They could do it. But what do we get? Mobs that sniff some flowers.

[young knoll]

If I don't see data driven blocks by 1.22 I am going to sink sweden like atlantis

[shadow night]

Lol

[eternal night]

understandable

[echo basalt]

3d plotting of mob AI when

[young knoll]

Hey don't disrespect the sniffy boi

[echo basalt]

minecraft speedrunners been plotting enderdragon positioning for years

[rotund ravine]

Hmm

[smoky oak]

actually can you not already do that

the 3d mob ai thing

[rotund ravine]

Prolly with a third party tool

[hasty prawn]

They have to please all the 12 year olds to keep playing Minecraft so our development time isn't wasted!

[smoky oak]

pretty sure you can make it work with a plugin

[shadow night]

Have you heard of the server velocity based using a certain dragon hitbox arrow oneshotting thingy?

[young knoll]

yes

[smoky oak]

railguns in minecraft are dumb lol

ilmango made a wither farm out of it

tnt + arrow = 1 wither / 10 seconds

[young knoll]

You make an arrow freak out and go hyperspeed and then deliver it to the dragons forehead

https://tenor.com/view/funny-wtf-really-headon-throwbackthursday-gif-5952722

[shadow night]

It was like there is a hitbox of the dragon that gives insane server velocity, but doesn't move the player unless they take damage and when shootng an arrow with that velocity it can oneshot the dragon

[echo basalt]

yea

[shadow night]

I wonder if that counts as a glitch or just taking advantage of expected behaviour

[echo basalt]

There's a single pixel in one of the ender dragon's hitboxes that accelerates the player with so much momentum that firing an arrow at it, at the right time, causes the dragon to instantly die

[echo basalt]

advantage

[young knoll]

It's not a bug it's a feature

[shadow night]

Exactly that

[echo basalt]

Arrow damage is based on movement speed

And arrows are "critical" if the bow is fully drawn

[shadow night]

I've seen that in code

[echo basalt]

their velocity is also based on just a vector multiplied by the bow pull percentage

You can make all arrows go at full speed by multiplying their initial velocity by 1/pullPercentage

[shadow night]

Tbh the code was kinda confusing, but there definitely was something about when the bow is pulled for longer than a certain time the arrow is critical or some shit like that

[smoky oak]

you dont want to see my crit check code lol

[echo basalt]

you dont want to see my crit check code lol

[shadow night]

my code is bad

I wonder if I have my github linked in discord

[echo basalt]

you do

busted

[hasty prawn]

[shadow night]

Ooh well ya guys can look at this shit then

Wouldn't recommend it to people with heart problems tho

[echo basalt]

no clue why half your plugins don't follow the principle of encapsulation

but eh not my problem

[shadow night]

Do I even have plugins on my github?

I usually use it to syncronize my progress in between my devices lol

[echo basalt]

yes

I usually use gdrive

but my ideaprojects folder is like

30gb

and I can't bother paying 2€/mo to have 10bytes/sec read speed

[shadow night]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

What even is "the principle of encapsulation" lol

[echo basalt]

private fields with getters n setters

[shadow night]

And where I don't follow stuff? Yk I gotta learn how it's done correctly

[young knoll]

public fields are a sin

Or something

[hasty prawn]

how do you feel about a public static field

[smoky oak]

i raise you

[hasty prawn]

[smoky oak]

public static final

like you know

important data like

oh i dunno

Math.PI

[shadow night]

My favourite bois

[serene sigil]

ive tried getting the public ip of the minehut server, but i cant connect with it

[smoky oak]

isnt minehut down for a while now?

[remote swallow]

did you add the port

[serene sigil]

yea

25565

[remote swallow]

might be how their proxy works

is that actually the port

[young knoll]

how about uhh

public static final volatile strictfp

[remote swallow]

add a syncronized

[serene sigil]

is there maybe some api?

[echo basalt]

As long as it's final too

[hasty prawn]

no

[quaint mantle]

i like public static HashMap

[hasty prawn]

[smoky oak]

yall are insane but that might just be perspective considering i havent slept for the past 24 hours

[north nova]

public static final Map<Map<Map<Map<Map<NavigableMap<Map<Map<Material, Double>>>>>>>> thoguhts

[smoky oak]

ah fuck i just remembered i did something similar once

ive got no leg to stand on here

[north nova]

awkward....

[remote swallow]

missing a few commas

[young knoll]

public static final Map

:D

[north nova]

a

w/e

[autumn cave]

How to get an Inventory by its id? https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Open_Screen

[north nova]

no

its broken on purpose

[young knoll]

NMS

[autumn cave]

from which class?

[young knoll]

Heck if I know

[remote swallow]

you should

[smoky oak]

funny thing actually

the compiler cant handle multiple layer maps or distinguish them

any Map<K,V> no matter what the V is is equal

so a Map<UUID, Player> as parameter is the same signature as a Map<UUID, long>

[lost matrix]

Welcome to type erasure

[smoky oak]

bleh

[echo basalt]

generic types don't really exist either

they're autocasted

[lilac dagger]

if only arrays weren't so badly made

we wouldn't had type erasure

[smoky oak]

BRUH someone just fuckin deleted a server i was an admin on

man today is not my day

[lilac dagger]

tho not sure how it would've worked with the libs

like maps and arrays that were already a thing

[young knoll]

Type erasure is sadge

Someone go PR no type erasure

kek

[ivory sleet]

not true

u have reifiable and non reifiable generics

[smoky oak]

really? it can handle that now?

[ivory sleet]

well no but like, its not the the types necessarily are erased

its just because they (in most cases) are gonna get erased that java does not allow this

[smoky oak]

uh

define 'reifiable' please

[ivory sleet]

for instance new HashMap<String,UUID>(){}

[quaint mantle]

when reified in java

[ivory sleet]

this would not erasure to Object

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/generics/nonReifiableVarargsType.html#non-reifiable-types

[lilac dagger]

is this why i see gson, typetoken to be loaded like this for the types?

[ivory sleet]

yes

[smoky oak]

hey conclube (formerly conclure) doing this <link> stops the discord imbed

also thanks for said link

[ivory sleet]

yea ik, just too lazy :>

[quaint mantle]

WeakHashMap

[smoky oak]

:P

[ivory sleet]

every type token is basically its own anonymous subclass of a type token where type params have been passed

[ivory sleet]

yeah its pretty nice java has that, altho I wish they had SoftHashMap and a ConcurentWeakHashMap

[lost matrix]

Its like

public class SomeSpecificClass extends Map<String, Integer>

But its an anonymous class instead.

[ivory sleet]

^

[quaint mantle]

do you know preformence of weakhashmap to hashmap?

[ivory sleet]

performance?

[quaint mantle]

sped

[ivory sleet]

there's really no significant performance changes, just implementation changes afaik

since it just wraps entries with a weak reference

[quaint mantle]

but you could make concurrent weak hashmap

easily

[ivory sleet]

yeah, well you'd have some significant problems with a weak concurrent hash map like proper atomicity

[quaint mantle]

you can always make key and value a weak reference

[ivory sleet]

myea well, testing a weak concurrent hash map would be painful, concurrent hash map tests looked painful last time I read through that

[quaint mantle]

there is https://guava.dev/releases/23.0/api/docs/com/google/common/cache/CacheBuilder.html too

[ivory sleet]

yeah well that thing is kinda meh

id rather stick with caffeine :>

[quaint mantle]

lol

[lost matrix]

best cache lib+

[ivory sleet]

Ik guava has a MapMaker with ::weakValues() and ::concurrency() but I highly highly doubt that works as expected in a high concurrent environment

[quaint mantle]

i like using just WeakHashMap lol

[ivory sleet]

yea its pretty nice

so what do you have against normal HashMap >:(

[quaint mantle]

HashMap is bad becuz yes

[ivory sleet]

damn, I see how we do things

[muted dirge]

Why?

[quaint mantle]

becuz yes

[muted dirge]

😐

ok

[quaint mantle]

anyone know what is ConcurrentSkipListSet?

i use it for sorted set lol

[ivory sleet]

its well

a skip list data structure

[lost matrix]

Dont

[ivory sleet]

but as a set

and concurrent

[lost matrix]

Use a TreeSet instead

[ivory sleet]

well for concurrency you pretty much would use that

[quaint mantle]

i never heard of skip list tho

[smoky oak]

?library

[ivory sleet]

or lock if the set isn't exposed to large amounts of concurrent mutations

[smoky oak]

?packaging

?maven

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-maven/

[ivory sleet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_list

[lost matrix]

Well, yeah. But there are only very very few edge cases where you need a concurrent sorted set without
external synchronization

[ivory sleet]

indeed

[smoky oak]

bleh, any article around explaining how to build a lib?

[quaint mantle]

what else i could use for sorted set hmm

[lost matrix]

TreeSet

Elements need to implement Comparable or you pass a Comparator to the TreeSet on creation

[quaint mantle]

i have them comparable, i need it for priority lol

i had my own implementation but it was kinda messy

[ivory sleet]

yeah you can define prioritization with help of comparable api

[lost matrix]

What operations do you need? Depend on that there are other sorted data structures which would fit you best.

[quaint mantle]

i just want to add a subscriber to handler which sorts it by the priority, the highest priority is the first and the lowest is the last

[lost matrix]

Not sure if i understood that correctly but it sounds like a job for a PriorityQueue

[quaint mantle]

i dont understand priority queue

[echo basalt]

those are nice

I used them for queues

[serene sigil]

hi, is there a plugin or something that lets you optain the real minecraft server ip?

because just using the public ip doesnt really work sometimes

[echo basalt]

blud wants minehut's ip

[quaint mantle]

oh yeah now i know why i don't use it

it makes the lowest priority on top

[echo basalt]

just invert the comparator

[serene sigil]

i really dont understand how minehut works

[echo basalt]

@wet breach p sure you had some knowledge of how the network is setup

[lost matrix]

The new java collection interfaces will make this so much easier

[quaint mantle]

i used minehut and i was making some of the most popular servers on minehut lol

but after some changes and becuz i got a server from bisecthosting for free

it is useless for me

[echo basalt]

me, who just works for people instead of hosting my own server

[quaint mantle]

yeah

then thats good, i mean, i dont pay for hosting my server

however minehut requires paying for stuff and i hate it for that lol

[serene sigil]

isnt there some minehut thing?

[quaint mantle]

before it was great thing

[hazy parrot]

what

[echo basalt]

everytime you log into a minehut instance it goes through one of their proxies

[serene sigil]

for minehut

[echo basalt]

They did some docker container wacky stuff

[hazy parrot]

dk what that is

[echo basalt]

but frosty's the one knowing details

[hazy parrot]

oh athernos type deal

[serene sigil]

yea

[echo basalt]

yeah but there's a hub

[serene sigil]

its basically aternos on crack

[echo basalt]

that lets you snoop into peoples stuff

I wonder if aternos has job opportunities

[quaint mantle]

also im a network engineer on a network server so i just manage shit on bigger server lol

[quaint mantle]

it is better than aternos, you can add own plugins and i think own engines

[serene sigil]

yea

thats where i test out my plugin if I dont want to use localhost

[echo basalt]

what's the problem with localhost

other than the ability to blow up your machine with 60k packets / second and not noticing the problem

[quaint mantle]

i use dev env to test stuff lol

[serene sigil]

well, i want to test out how my plugin would work for others that probably use a host

[flint coyote]

maybe they only have like 8gb of ram

[quaint mantle]

ram is kinda cheap ngl

[echo basalt]

it is

[lost matrix]

Just use a response service like httpbin.org

[echo basalt]

I want to upgrade to 64gb ram

32gb ain't enough anymore