help-development

[rough drift]

If you don't use NMS it will automatically work with higher versions

For lower versions just use like spigot 1.17 and it will support anything above 1.17

[echo basalt]

yeah but

but

How can I avoid a block being scheduled for removal twice

Maybe I could store a hash of all the top positions due for removal

Something like a Map<RelativePosition, Byte> ticksLeft

[rough drift]

I mean

Set

and just check if it's already in the set

[simple girder]

Should I develop on the minimum version I want it to support?

[rough drift]

and if it is just ignore

[rough drift]

Exactly

[simple girder]

Thanks <3

[rough drift]

if the min is 1.17 develop on 1.17

if the min is 1.8 pray to god that you change your mind

[simple girder]

And is there a standart for this? Which version do you think a plugin I release should support as a minimum?

[tender shard]

someone join #bot-commands pls

[smoky anchor]

I would, but idk cars or geography :D

[rough drift]

I usually do up to 3 versions back

Though for the time being I am just sticking with 1.17.1

[lost matrix]

Minecraft trivia when?

[simple girder]

Thanks <3

[vivid skiff]

How can i get a Pair with a enumitemslot in it and check the the itemslot for after modifing the itemstack in the pair? Using protocollib packetlistener

[simple girder]

I get a warning like this, is this normal? https://i.imgur.com/FPiOthl.png

[grim hound]

Does anyone know how I could fix this issue? I understand that both of the files are compiled on different java versions, but at the same time I don't want to change my project java version from 8

[grim hound]

yep, it's normal

[chrome beacon]

You didn't do what I told you to

You need to set api-version to 1.13 in the plugin.yml

[simple girder]

Oh, okey. I changed the spigot version.

[chrome beacon]

spigot version should be the lowest you want to support

[tender shard]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[grim hound]

doesn't matter

[tender shard]

does matter, paper api is compiled for java 17

spigot-api is compiled for java 8

[grim hound]

happens the same with minecraft packets

for 1.17+

[tender shard]

that's because NMS is obviously compiled for java 17 too

[grim hound]

yeah I know

[tender shard]

use jdk 17+

[grim hound]

can you read?

[tender shard]

I can, you cannot read

I never told you to change the project java version

only to use another JDK to compile

JDK 17 is able to use source/target of 8 just fine

[grim hound]

damn you got me there

[tender shard]

are you using IJ and maven? If so just do File -> project settings -> SDK -> 17

and in pom you can leave target/source at 8

then it should work fine

if you also use the maven-shade-plugin, that must be updated to at least version 3.5.0

[grim hound]

nope, I'm using the IntelliJ artifact compiler

[tender shard]

I am not sure if that even supports using different source/target and JDK

[grim hound]

maven is too slow

[grim hound]

and neither am IIII

[cinder abyss]

Hello, I want to add a custom blocks using Spigot when the type of the oak slab is double and waterlogged. How can I make this in my resource pack ?

[tender shard]

probably that's not possible, I'd just use maven instead

(gradle btw also cannot do that as paper-userdev requires toolchains in gradle)

so I guess your only option to compile for java 8 while still accessing java 17 classes is to use maven

which you would normally do anyway because otherwise how'd you use mojang maps

[grim hound]

I just use reflections

[tender shard]

obfuscated mappings can't be properly used, not only because the names are nonsense, but e.g. because method names and their return types are clashing, e.g. if you extend entity classes

you'll get a message about "return type of x() clashes with EntityInsentient x()"

[grim hound]

and don't really use the raw mojang api that is not packet-related

[tender shard]

reflections? but all the method and field names change in every version

it'll be a() in 1.20.1 and c() in 1.19.4 and e() in 1.19.3 e.g.

[grim hound]

yeah I don't really use raw mojang classes

[grim hound]

I get it by return type and parameters used

    public static Method getMethodByReturnType(Class<?> instance, Class<?> returnType, Class<?>... parameterTypes) {
        for (Method method : instance.getMethods()) {
            if (method.getReturnType() == returnType && AlixUtils.equalsArrayCheck(parameterTypes, method.getParameterTypes()))
                return method;
        }
        throw new ExceptionInInitializerError(new NoSuchMethodException("No valid method returning: " + returnType + " in " + instance));
    }

like this

[tender shard]

how does one even create a .jar in IJ without maven or gradle

i dont see any "build artifacts" anywhere

[kindred sentinel]

Attributes for entities can only be given using NMS?

[grim hound]

magic

[grim hound]

no

[tender shard]

yeah well

[grim hound]

cuz you gotta create em first

[tender shard]

create what first

[grim hound]

the artifacts

you click the "+"

"JAR" > "From modules with dependecies"

[tender shard]

ah ok. yeah it seems like IJ doesn't support specifying -target or -source for artifact configs

maybe you can manually append it to the build config, idk

[grim hound]

yeah I didn't really find any info on that

well, I guess I don

't really need paper that much

[tender shard]

as said, maven is the easiest option

[onyx fjord]

maven has more boilerplate

[grim hound]

it builds too slow for me, maybe one day I'll find the ideal solution to this problem

[onyx fjord]

gradle once daemon starts builds in sub second

you can also enable additional caching

for config

[tender shard]

gradle doesn't support using a different source and target setting than the actual JDK being used when using toolchains

[grim hound]

and gradle seems difficult

also that /\

[tender shard]

this still doesn't create any .jar for me at all

[onyx fjord]

gradle spigot project is like 40 lines

or 30

in the build script

[tender shard]

ok so I found out how to it using IJ's very limited build artifacts system

[lilac dagger]

you need to build first

and then select the target classes

if you're generating jars the way i used to

[tender shard]

Run -> Edit COnfigurations -> add -source 8 -target 8 as options, but keep SDK at 17

[grim hound]

Build > Builder Artifacts

[tender shard]

this produces a .jar with java 8 class files

btw maven is not slower than IJ unless you run "clean" all the time

[grim hound]

wait, is this per-class?

[onyx fjord]

slow?

[tender shard]

no

[grim hound]

hmm I very much am doing something wrong here

cuz I still get the same error

of this

[tender shard]

project structure must be like this

language level 8, sdk 17

if that doesn't work, just use maven. this would have fixed the issue already half an hour ago 😄

Alternatively if you dont use paperweight but only the normal api jar gradle should also allow using different source and target levels than the JDK (just dont use toolchains, they force using the -release flag on javac)

[kindred sentinel]

Is there a way to find out the amount of armor a player has?

[grim hound]

yoo it compiled, thanks man

[tender shard]

Np

[grim hound]

there is

double armor = p.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_ARMOR).getValue();

at least according to the spigot forum, no idea if this is influenced by armor

[kindred sentinel]

nope

[tender shard]

pretty sure that this only returns the "base" armor an entity has

[kindred sentinel]

OMG

It's working

[cobalt thorn]

Hi question probably not that common but im making a plugin where you can get livestream from twitch and dispalyed in to maps the only issues ffmpeg can use rtmp that on twitch and most provider is closed by stream key, there’s an alternative to this and get live stream via rtmp without keys? (I want to use rtmp because it is the simplest to implement or another way to implement is by making the streamer add is key but that can be a security concern for streamers)

[grim hound]

the attribute?

[kindred sentinel]

Yeah

[grim hound]

yoo

dassick

[tender shard]

does it also work for specific armor attributes?

[kindred sentinel]

I compared the code and realized that I used getBaseValue

but just with getValue

it's working

[grim hound]

like armor items?

[kindred sentinel]

It's working with changing player's armor using attribute

[atomic flax]

Hello, i'm trying to build my plugin trough a GitHub Workflow with Maven but he show me that error (10 times)

Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.8.0:compile (default-compile) on project etercube: Compilation failure: Compilation failure: 
Error:  /home/runner/work/EterAuth/EterAuth/src/fr/arcade/eterauth/bungee/DataBase.java:[4,23] cannot find symbol
Error:    symbol:   class BungeeCord
Error:    location: package net.md_5.bungee```

Do you have any idea what the problem is?

[tender shard]

where is the class BungeeCord even from? it's not part of Bungeecord api

[rough drift]

It's just paper being annoying

[tender shard]

you must declare an api-version in plugin.yml

[atomic flax]

full line

I think my friend messed up the dev :p

[unreal pine]

?ima

[tender shard]

how would that even compile locally?

there is no class called BungeeCord in that package

https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/api/target/apidocs/net/md_5/bungee/package-summary.html

only class there is "Util"

[atomic flax]

yeah, he told me that he build his plugins with spigot and bungeecord.jar from jenkins 💀

[tender shard]

well you gotta add the same dependencies to maven that your friend is using locally

[atomic flax]

exactly

[tender shard]

but having both spigot and bungee in one .jar? what's the purpose

also spigot especially doesnt have a class called bungeecord

is he importing the bungeecord server .jar as dependency? o0

what does he use the BungeeCord class for?

[atomic flax]

it's an auth plugin, so to change server and things like that

[atomic flax]

i don't know :p

[tender shard]

you'll probably need bungeecord-bootstrap as dependency

or bungeecord-proxy

[atomic flax]

bungeecord-proxy is not maintened since 2020 in my memories

I'm going to ask him to remake the plugin.

Anyway, thanks for your advice, have a nice day :)

[chrome beacon]

?

The Bungeecord proxy module is maintained and is a core part of Bungeecord?

[tender shard]

that means you gotta build it yourself and mvn install it

[atomic flax]

yep

i know

I misspelled my message actually, sorry

[tender shard]

why can I not rename folders in winscp in the directory tree 🥲

[grim hound]

hmmm

Is there a reliable way to detect that a player killed another player?

cuz like

Player#getKiller could be from way before

and getting the last damage cause also doesn't help as someone could've like pushed them off a cliff

the death message would still contain those players' names as one was the cause of death for the other

oh, wait, is the Player#getKiller set to null if the player dies without receiving any hits?

[lost matrix]

It will return a killer based on vanilla rules and returns null if the has been no killer
or the last attack was too long ago.

[grim hound]

ahh I see

thnx

[worldly ingot]

Basically if it's in the kill message, it'll return the player lol

[rich inlet]

Hello. I want to launch the player from his location to another exact location (so that he always will land there when launched).

I haven't found anything in that direction which works. I want the player to always launch in a nice arch no matter what the destination location is.

I tried subtracting the two location vectors, but then the player will get a velocity in a direct path to the destination location and the launch force doesn't fit.

Does someone know a way to achieve this?

[echo basalt]

There was a combat tracker within nms

I wonder if it's possible to access its data in bukkit

[worldly ingot]

We have a lot of that stuff being exposed with the damage causes

Just a PR in limbo atm

[echo basalt]

Yeah but I'd like to access the entire combat entry history

I know a minigame server that had a pvp game with full combat history when you died

[worldly ingot]

Well... yeah... they can track that themselves

[echo basalt]

Nah it was hyperspecific

[worldly ingot]

Right... they can track that themselves

wat

[echo basalt]

ehh

p sure they just accessed the nms tracker

[worldly ingot]

I sincerely doubt that

You just don't have to. You can accomplish the same thing with just a handful of lines of code and a damage event listener

[kindred sentinel]

How to get the amount of armor an item adds?

[echo basalt]

uhh

You don't

But if you really care

LEATHER_HELMET: 1
LEATHER_CHESTPLATE: 3
LEATHER_LEGGINGS: 2
LEATHER_BOOTS: 1
CHAINMAIL_HELMET: 1
CHAINMAIL_CHESTPLATE: 5
CHAINMAIL_LEGGINGS: 4
CHAINMAIL_BOOTS: 1
IRON_HELMET: 2
IRON_CHESTPLATE: 6
IRON_LEGGINGS: 5
IRON_BOOTS: 2
GOLDEN_HELMET: 2
GOLDEN_CHESTPLATE: 5
GOLDEN_LEGGINGS: 3
GOLDEN_BOOTS: 1
DIAMOND_HELMET: 3
DIAMOND_CHESTPLATE: 8
DIAMOND_LEGGINGS: 6
DIAMOND_BOOTS: 3
TURTLE_HELMET: 2

[native ruin]

doesn't armor have an armor value?

[echo basalt]

Missing netherrite but idc

[lost matrix]

Do attributes not contain the default modifiers on items?

[echo basalt]

They might

In this case I did this for a customer that wanted to tweak armor

Which is why I have a config for this

[lost matrix]

I would get the attributes of the ItemMeta. You just need to keep armor toughness in mind.

[onyx fjord]

move if you can

renaming is just moving as a different name

[shadow night]

makes sense

[shell matrix]

So I updated to the 1.20 NMS today after some difficulties and I'm seeing that here has changed a lot of Stuff. It now wants DataValue instead of DataItem as it was in the 1.19.2. Is there now a other, better way to do that (I want to change the entity temporarily to something else) or should I try to port it to DataValue?
https://paste.md-5.net/jemutotixu.cs

[kindred sentinel]

oh yeah i know

i just did this

it's like... armor debuff?

or nerf

[grim hound]

Yeah no I just checked, it doesn't work

the Player#getKiller I mean

it's null whenever the death reason is different from physical kill (like throwing someone off a cliff)

[subtle folio]

correct

this is intentionally as the killer was (example) fall damage

[grim hound]

then how can I get the indirect killer?

[kindred sentinel]

Is there a way to find out the amount of a player's armor without considering attributes like only from armor besides checking every armor item?

[grim hound]

why not attributes?

[subtle folio]

you can store the last person to hit the player with entity damage by entity event

[grim hound]

so there isn't a built-in method?

[subtle folio]

you just need to be careful to stop storing the last person to hit them after death though

no

[grim hound]

easy enough

[kindred sentinel]

oh nevermind

I figured out how to make it easier

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[quaint mantle]

Would it be possible to teleport a player into a dif server without making them do the loading world screen?

[subtle folio]

server or world?

if server i don’t think so due to the nature of proxies

[quaint mantle]

Server ex hub -> mini game

[quaint mantle]

Yeah I was curious if there was a certain packet that caused that screen

[subtle folio]

i know you can with teleporting world to world, but server may be different, you can check out this resource though and see if anything they do may help you https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/worldchangescreenremover.54297/#

[hasty prawn]

Check what addBalance is returning

[quaint mantle]

Interesting

Does that return true or false

[echo basalt]

love the code

[subtle folio]

Haha i didn’t make it! i’ve just used it before, serves only as a reference 😂

[quaint mantle]

Yeah little hard to read on mobile

Looks cool tho

[echo basalt]

And how hard the author goes out of their way to not make a data class

[subtle folio]

though I think it was coded in net beans, looks like tabs > spaces

[quaint mantle]

Let’s keep in mind

It’s last commit was 4 years ago

Maybe they was just learning how to code

[echo basalt]

let's keep in mind that zombie_striker has had a premium plugin for sale for years and was an active member in the bukkit forums

[quaint mantle]

Never mind!!

[subtle folio]

love the main class name

“Main”

[quaint mantle]

MagicPacketHolder

[subtle folio]

7smile7 getting mad

[echo basalt]

ahh the public variables

[lost matrix]

Thats not a data class. This is a blatant attempt to sabotage his own plugin.

[echo basalt]

I think it's a she but yeah

static hashmap

crunchy

[timid hedge]

Ohh i forgot that thanks

[echo basalt]

who the fuck uses 8 character tabs

or 16 char

[lost matrix]

This is a troll i think

[echo basalt]

it's zombie_striker, previous author of QualityArmory(Vehicles)

[opal juniper]

thi

lollll

[echo basalt]

old community member

I wouldn't say it's a troll

But this has crackhead energy

I can imagine a drunk zombie_striker downing 5 red bulls after a night at the bar and writing a plugin in an hour

gold

[subtle folio]

hack level

[quartz elbow]

Good morning, I created a login system, and I would like to know if it is possible to disable the world cache, since it is a temporary world. I looked in the documentation and couldn't find it. For example, useful position, hunger

[echo basalt]

Uhh

Great question

You can delete the player's file

No clue if World#setAutoSave influences player data or not

But iirc player data is separate

interesting

[subtle folio]

// spigot

[echo basalt]

can't wait for the day that entity movement bugs are fixed

Had to actually put effort in a commission today because apparently primed tnt can phase through blocks

[subtle folio]

that’s a minecraft feature !!

[quaint mantle]

Fr

[echo basalt]

yeah but

[worldly ingot]

Pull requests welcome

Preferably into Spigot though. Those seem like things Spigot should adjust, not CraftBukkit

[echo basalt]

I don't think I'm ever signing that CLA

[worldly ingot]

I guess your alternative is to complain eternally, so that's a valid option as well

[echo basalt]

my alternative is to charge more and impl a shitty fix

[near crypt]

how can i spawn a blockdisplay which is white concrete?

[quaint mantle]

Win win

[worldly ingot]

It could be a much cleaner fix if it were in the server directly 👀

[echo basalt]

ehh

[hasty prawn]

We'll complain until you fix it then Choco

[echo basalt]

I have a history of "quick" and dirty fixes

[worldly ingot]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/BlockDisplay.html#setBlock(org.bukkit.block.data.BlockData)

Spawn the display entity, call setBlock() on it with a white concrete BlockData

[echo basalt]

Like that one time I had over 600 lines of nms to make entities collide with client-sided blocks

[near crypt]

and how can i call this method?

[worldly ingot]

By spawning the entity

Like you would any other

[echo basalt]

because mixins aren't a thing

and idk asm

[chrome beacon]

Time to learn ASM

[echo basalt]

I've also used unsafe to inject my own command map because spigot doesn't fire events if I call dispatchCommand directly

Namedly ServerCommandEvent or whatever it was

I was talking with someone here about doing a PR for that

[near crypt]

i would spawn a entity like this player.getWorld().spawnEntity(player.getLocation(), EntityType.BLOCK_DISPLAY);

[worldly ingot]

Or just spawn() so you can get the instance type, but yes

[echo basalt]

yOu can cast the result

[worldly ingot]

Yeah but why cast when you can get a generic type? :)

[echo basalt]

Ideally EntityType would be a weird class with generics for this one method

[worldly ingot]

It will be soon

[echo basalt]

time to break compatibility I see

Unless..

[worldly ingot]

Compat-safe

[echo basalt]

EntityTypes

hm

[slender elbow]

Commodore is getting a big update :^)

[near crypt]

but where can i then call the method setBlock()?

[echo basalt]

I wonder how many lines of code luckperms is running on

[worldly ingot]

With the Entity instance that that method returns

Or you can use the consumer

[quartz elbow]

Did not quite understand

[worldly ingot]

world.spawn(BlockDisplay.class, location, entity -> {
    entity.setBlock(Material.WHITE_CONCRETE.createBlockData());
});```

Argument order of that method might be wrong. I always forget location & class

[near crypt]

setblock isnt working...

[slender elbow]

entity.setBlock?

[chrome beacon]

Well what does it tell you

[near crypt]

oh nvm

[chrome beacon]

BlockDisplay https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/BlockDisplay.html#setBlock(org.bukkit.block.data.BlockData)

[worldly ingot]

I mean you can call it blockDisplay if you want lol. I just figured entity was shorter

[slender elbow]

112k

[echo basalt]

easy goal

[worldly ingot]

To be fair it's also abstracted to shit so it can support other platforms

[echo basalt]

I'm at 8k right now and all I do is load like 3 values from a database on player join

[slender elbow]

implementing it on a platform is an easy task tho, platform hooks are minimal

[echo basalt]

I'll probably reach 12k when I'm done with this command system

[worldly ingot]

I know but you often have to write code that is somewhat similar to what platform APIs already provide

[near crypt]

but it isnt working...

[worldly ingot]

I don't know what that error is telling you

I can't guess

[onyx fjord]

its crazy how someone with almost 10 years of experience can code this bad

[near crypt]

it just doesnt have this method

[worldly ingot]

Your IDE is broken or something

[slender elbow]

the better question is, does it actually compile. lol

[worldly ingot]

Right :P

[near crypt]

maybe its because i dont use build tools?

[distant wave]

does the eject function kicks all players riding on the player

[strong parcel]

Is it normal to only be able to reference a dependency's methods inside an event handler?

[lost matrix]

no

[near crypt]

how can i do this with player.getWorld().spawnEntity(player.getLocation(), EntityType.BLOCK_DISPLAY); ?

[chrome beacon]

Invalidate cache and restart?

[worldly ingot]

spawnEntity() returns an Entity instance so just assign it to a variable and cast to BlockDisplay

BlockDisplay entity = (BlockDisplay) world.spawnEntity(location, EntityType.BLOCK_DISPLAY);

[slender elbow]

oh

[chrome beacon]

eh I wouldn't recommend that

[slender elbow]

you have the arguments swappefd

[slender elbow]

location comes first, entity class second

[strong parcel]

I am probably doing something wrong, but the only time I can use methods from the dependency I imported is when there's an annotation like @Override or @EventHandler

[near crypt]

and where can i pass in the blockdata?

[lost matrix]

You are probably trying to run code in a class body

[worldly ingot]

entity.setBlock()

Same as before

You should really take a moment to understand some of the basics of Java

[near crypt]

ah true

[worldly ingot]

Methods that return values, instance methods, etc.

These are things you need to seriously have a good grasp of

[strong parcel]

Am I supposed to run it outside of the class body?

I thought all the code was supposed to go inside

[glad prawn]

"thought"

[lost matrix]

Nothing runs in a class body. You just define methods and variables there.
Its just a blueprint of which you create instances later on.

[valid basin]

Is it possible to make space gravity (actually lack of gravity) in latest spigot?

that actually works like 0 g

like exactly the same

i've tried combining levitation 255 and slow falling but that way player can still move forward or backward, just not up and down

And can't use elytra which is a major setback

[echo basalt]

write custom elytra physics

[strong parcel]

So I need to define a method in the class body to run methods from the dependency?

Or a variable

[worldly ingot]

I'm confused how you think programs work

Something has to call it in order for it to run

[valid basin]

? how can u do that? I'm not familiar with latest spigot mechanics. I mostly worked with 1.8.8

[worldly ingot]

You can ignore him. Stupid idea

[echo basalt]

:/

[worldly ingot]

"I want to visit Paris one day"
"lol just build your own airplane"

[strong parcel]

Maybe this is a part of Java I have never touched, but I have always put the code inside of the class brackets.

[tall dragon]

does any1 know what this component from intellij is called by chance?

[distant wave]

when adding a passanger to a player, do multiple passangers stack on each other?

[valid basin]

im sure he just tried to troll me anyway

[worldly ingot]

Well, yeah. It does. But there's a structure to a class. You can't execute methods just at the top level of a class. You have to do something with it

public class Foo {

    runSomeMethod();

}```

This is not valid

[echo basalt]

nah I've actually worked on custom elytra fizzics

it was crunchy

but worked fine

was just a scheduler

[distant wave]

anyone pls

[worldly ingot]

No, you can only have one passenger on a player

[strong parcel]

And so an eventhandler is an example of doing something with it?

[worldly ingot]

If you want multiple passengers you need to add a passenger to the passenger

[valid basin]

are you setting custom velocities with a scheduler while player is gliding or something?

[echo basalt]

yep

[worldly ingot]

An event handler is a method, yes. Bukkit will invoke that method (through "magic")

[echo basalt]

Was surprisingly smooth

[jagged thicket]

btw is that a constructor i forgor

its been long

[echo basalt]

Just make sure to make a speed cap and write nice curves

[worldly ingot]

Is what a constructor?

[distant wave]

why is this then

[valid basin]

yeah but idk if that'd work with no gravity (using potion effect levitation 255 and slow falling)

[worldly ingot]

Because some entities have multiple passengers

[echo basalt]

setPassenger is 1.8 stuff

[worldly ingot]

e.g. boats

[jagged thicket]

that yellow thing we used to see on the main method

[echo basalt]

addPassenger was added in like 1.9 or something

or 1.10 or whatever

[worldly ingot]

Right, when boats were allowed two passengers

[echo basalt]

I wonder what 1.11 added

[strong parcel]

That probably explains my confusion. I have always put the EventHandlers inside the class that defines the methods used.

I was just trying to check that the import worked, and I guess I have never run into this issue before.

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, event handlers are going to be a strange concept if you're just starting to learn a programming language. Though at the end of the day all you have to understand is that something will eventually call your event handler method

It's just not your own code calling it. It's CraftBukkit

If the code you're writing is top-level, nothing can call it so it won't run - or in the case of most languages, it won't compile

[echo basalt]

pro tip: don't ask some of us for help if you're a beginner, we'll overengineer our solutions and confuse you with all kinds of patterns

pink name = avoid

:p

[strong parcel]

haha

[echo basalt]

unless it's 7smile

then run

[strong parcel]

Alright, thanks!

Yeah, I have had that experience with some of the pink name people. I send a code snippet and then they are too busy roasting the rest of my program to answer the question.

[echo basalt]

we're picky

[rich inlet]

is there someone good with vectors?

[echo basalt]

Vectors aren't hard

[strong parcel]

My calculus teacher just went over those today

I got you 😎

[echo basalt]

I got these 2 links bookmarked

https://bukkit.org/threads/tutorial-how-to-calculate-vectors.138849/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBpDMLCC2uY

[opal juniper]

love vectors

[glad prawn]

hate math

[strong parcel]

Yeah, that's what they made the math package for 😛

[distant wave]

if i eject passanger on bottom will it eject everyone or only the first

[rich inlet]

alright.

Vector launchVector = someLocation.getDirection().normalize().multiply(force);

if force is something like 1 to 10 (smaller values), the player gets launched in the right direction (direction of someLocation).
but if force is a high value like 100, somehow the direction isnt right anymore, it changes

@opal juniper @echo basalt @strong parcel

why is that?

[echo basalt]

Something tells me it has to do with floating point innacuracies being scaled up to a number so big they become apparent

Launching an entity with a vector as big as that will always cause problems

Sometimes due to chunk loading

server might teleport you back etc

And it never really looks nice

[ripe moat]

Hallo 👋.

How do i create a folder (with boosted yaml library)? I can only find about files. Is that just with regular spigot/paper yaml?
I'm new to developing plugins. Don't blame if it's super obvious

[hazy parrot]

why don't you just create dir with pure java ?

[opal juniper]

really? you might be right but the float errors are very small

[echo basalt]

Well you're going from a big vector to a normalized vector

and back to a big vector

The innacuracies stack up

[ripe moat]

I didn't really think of that. I guess there's no reason to even make one with boosted yaml

but thanks

[chrome beacon]

Yeah I said that yesterday

[echo basalt]

Also keep in mind that in the protocol, yaw and pitch are converted to bytes

and are done in increments

1.4º increments

It's weird

[rich inlet]

so is there an easy way to fix this?

eg using int instead of float?

[opal juniper]

i suppose, yeah

to @echo basalt that message is

i mean you can try and combine the calculations but idk if that will help much

[rich inlet]

using integers doesnt work either

[opal juniper]

well you are making the error worse

[echo basalt]

time to test a goofy ahh plugin I made in 5 minutes

I wonder if there's a mod that lets me hotswap game versions without actually having to re-open the launcher

[river oracle]

that would be scuff

[onyx fjord]

do conventions say to use small or big letters for explicit floats, doubles and longs

1d vs 1D

[silent cove]

Hey, I'm trying to undrerstand wht criteria i am not meeting to submit my preimum plugin? I believe to have all requirements met according to here https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/premium-resource-guidelines.31667/ my profile is here: https://www.spigotmc.org/members/z1haze.7626/

sorry if im not in the right place, ill delete if needed

[echo basalt]

Got 2fa on?

[silent cove]

yeah i just did it today after i read that req

[echo basalt]

Just gotta fix interpolation

[echo basalt]

will take a while to kick in

So just be patient

[silent cove]

alright

[subtle folio]

make more smooth (real)

[near crypt]

how can I destroy a block?

[smoky oak]

depends what you mean by destroy
setting its material to air is usually enough

[near crypt]

ah true im so lost haha

[topaz cape]

is it possible to know if the player moved his head through bungeecord?
i know bungeecord reads all packets and i know how to inject into netty
im stuck on here:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1131926831759638640/1143590563459899542/image.png

[lilac dagger]

What do you mewn by moved his head? Do you mean teleport between servers?

[topaz cape]

no just a normal headrotation packet

[lilac dagger]

Then find the packet, i assume you need to use bytes to denote the packet

Most likely you have to use minecraft protocol to find the data you need

[topaz cape]

Thats the part which i cant

[lilac dagger]

I don't remember the site, protocol something

[chrome beacon]

wiki vg

[remote swallow]

wiki.vg

[lilac dagger]

There you go

[topaz cape]

is it possible to use some lib to do it or is it jus not

[chrome beacon]

Protocolize

[near crypt]

how can I add a tag to an entity in spigot?

[chrome beacon]

What type of tag?

Your own custom nbt tag?

[near crypt]

a entity tag...

/kill @e[tag=idk] so that i can use this command

[chrome beacon]

so a scoreboard tag

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Entity.html#addScoreboardTag(java.lang.String)

[near crypt]

oh is it called a scoreboard tag?

[kindred sentinel]

I want to make it so that every 5 seconds the player has 1 heart restored, but so that if he takes damage, the timer for 5 seconds is reset, is it possible?

[kindred sentinel]

player.addScoreboardTag("name")

[subtle folio]

yes.

[kindred sentinel]

and player.getScoreboardTags().contains("name")

[kindred sentinel]

hmmm

[subtle folio]

you can set up a runnable system, giving each player their own time stamp and the runnable can do the math in order to see if the player needs a new heart given, and then in an entity damage event you can set the time needed for a new heart +5s

[kindred sentinel]

So the only way is to save cooldown in the plugin config?

[subtle folio]

why would you need to save the cooldown in a config?

i don’t think it’s worth persisting 5 seconds..

[kindred sentinel]

yeah, but where could i store time stamp?

[chrome beacon]

pdc

[subtle folio]

you could ise a hashmap

pdc would be stupid for this

[chrome beacon]

Depends on if they want it to be persistent or not 🤷‍♂️

[subtle folio]

highly doubt it, based on it only being 5 seconds

[chrome beacon]

Yeah I didn't read that part :/

[kindred sentinel]

oh I didn't understand how it works very well, do you happen to have a short hashmap tutorial?

[subtle folio]

sure,

https://www.baeldung.com/java-hashmap

Baeldung is a great resource for future reference ^^

[kindred sentinel]

is it something like an array/list?

[kindred sentinel]

oh thx

[subtle folio]

it’s a similar idea, but instead you store miltiple key-values

where you key is the player’s uuid and the value is a long (unix time stamp)

[kindred sentinel]

something like [[Player, Key], [AnPlayer, AnKey]]?

oh

it's like objects in JS

[subtle folio]

Yeah, exactly

[kindred sentinel]

{UUID: Key}

[subtle folio]

but more like Player=Key

[kindred sentinel]

Yeah

[subtle folio]

yup

[kindred sentinel]

like json or js objects

[subtle folio]

exactly like json

[smoky oak]

I've noticed some attributes can be set directly using Player and some not.
Is there a difference between them I'm not aware of, or are they just 'exposed' since they're more commonly modified?

[subtle folio]

oh yes

some attributes only go on items or armor and some onto players

[smoky oak]

im intending on modifying the attack speed attribute of the player to not accidentally leave 'residue' on items

[subtle folio]

mhm

[smoky oak]

so im trying to work out how to edit attributes properly rn

[subtle folio]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/set-item-attribute.357065/

[smoky oak]

i didnt meant the display thing

[subtle folio]

right.. that resources goes over covers how to use them in general, you’ll need to@modify it to what you want

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/ItemMeta.html#addAttributeModifier-org.bukkit.attribute.Attribute-org.bukkit.attribute.AttributeModifier-

[smoky oak]

hm I'm staring down the numbers and it looks like they got floating point issues

is there an explanation on how that calculation works internally?

i want the final value of the attribute to temporarily become 1.6

[pseudo hazel]

i mean it pretty much is

[smoky oak]

can i just add a +/- number to the attribute

[pseudo hazel]

just round it down to a few decimals

[smoky oak]

oh thats my reference value

im assuming its supposed to be 1.6

[pseudo hazel]

well yes but floating precision error turns it into 1.5999999999

you don't compare floating values directly anyways

[smoky oak]

not the point
yes or no - can i just add a purely numeric modifier to attributes

[pseudo hazel]

oh idk anything about attributes lol

i was just talking about floats

[smoky oak]

well my plan was
double modifier = 1.6 - value

[scenic onyx]

Hi, I would like to create a plugin that when you receive an effect says which plugin gave you the effect. Because there is a plugin that gives me the effect of wikness and mpm I can figure out what it is.

Who can help me?

[tender shard]

listen to EntityPotionEffectEvent, check if the cause is PLUGIN, walk through the stacktrace until you find a class that's neither from your classloader nor the bukkit one, then use JavaPlugin#getProvidingPlugin(thatClazz)

[smoky oak]

hm actually this is concerning
this implies the modifier needs to be kept in memory and there's no easy way to reset it
do i need to cache the modifiers i apply?

[scenic onyx]

Can you tell me a code example?

[rare rover]

how would i improve this?:

    public static String formatNumber(double num) {
        int index = 0;
        while (num >= 1000 && index < (FORMAT_THINGS.length - 1)) {
            num /= 1000;
            index++;
        }
        return String.format("%.2f", num) + FORMAT_THINGS[index];
    }``` was thinking of just doing a StringBuilder but that wont improve it by much

10ms ain't bad but

[lilac dagger]

what about space waste?

[rare rover]

also have tried:

return String.format("%.2f%s", num, FORMAT_THINGS[index]);```

[tender shard]

    @EventHandler
    public void onPotion(EntityPotionEffectEvent event) {
        StackTraceElement[] stack = Thread.currentThread().getStackTrace();
        for(StackTraceElement element : stack) {
            String clazzName = element.getClassName();
            try {
                Class<?> clazz = Class.forName(clazzName);
                try {
                    Plugin plugin = JavaPlugin.getProvidingPlugin(clazz);
                    System.out.println(plugin.getName() + " added a potion effect to an entity");
                } catch (IllegalArgumentException ignored) {
                    // Class does not belong to any JavaPlugin
                }
            } catch (ReflectiveOperationException ignored) {
                // General exception from Class.forName(...)
            }
        }
    }

idk if that works

[scenic onyx]

tnx

[smoky oak]

switching items doesnt by chance reset the generic attack speed modifiers does it?

[rare rover]

no

[scenic onyx]

it is my plugin. It does not work.

return the name of the plugin

[carmine mica]

yeah, you'd have to filter out your plugin

cause the first stack trace element is going to be your plugin since its your listener

[scenic onyx]

How do I filter it?

[carmine mica]

if plugin = my plugin, continue

[scenic onyx]

ok

[tender shard]

obviously you gotta filter out your own plugin

[carmine mica]

could also just start not at the first stack trace element

[tender shard]

i thought you would at least TRY to understand the code I sent instead of blindly copy pasting it

[valid burrow]

is there a way to get all online servers in a bungeecord network

[tender shard]

ProxyServer#getServers()

[scenic onyx]

The code write all plugin do it, do not return;

[scenic onyx]

I did, that's why I thought it worked.

[tender shard]

print out the whole stacktrace instead, then send it

[valid burrow]

thx

anyone know a formular to calculate a players missing health? I suck at math but i dont get how this can possibly return 20
double missingHealth = p.getMaxHealth() - p.getHealth();

[pseudo hazel]

what does p.getHealth return

[glad prawn]

From 0 to getMaxHealth()

[pseudo hazel]

well yes in theory

im just asking what it returns in this case

[valid burrow]

ill try 1 sec

max health returns 20
health also returns 20
when im at full hp

[glad prawn]

yes

[valid burrow]

then this should return 0

but it doesnt

it returns 20

[glad prawn]

Nah, show your full code

[valid burrow]

oh nvm i think i got it nvm

i used the method twice and the second one had a /2 at the end for some reason

i think because i wanted to round it or somethin? idk

i was to tired to think probally

[glad prawn]

Lol

[river spear]

Entity entity = player.getWorld().spawnEntity(location, EntityType.); How can I spawn a bamboo raft with this?

[chrome beacon]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/use-consumers-when-spawning-custom-entities/
and spawn a boat with the type bamboo

[tender shard]

world.spawn(someLocation, Boat.class, boat -> {
  boat.setBoatType(Boat.Type.BAMBOO);
}

mb

[river spear]

thanks

[smoky oak]

a or b?
A)

if(modifier != null) {
    modifier.remove();
    modifier = null;}
modifier = new Modifier();

B)

if(modifier != null) {
    modifier.remove();}
modifier = new Modifier();

at this point there should be no other references to it

[slender elbow]

there is no difference

also the closing brace right after the semicolon is cursed

[smoky oak]

you aint getting 'normal' out of me lol

if(modifier) modifier.remove() there ya go

wait that only works in lua

dammit

no

its throwing an error

[kindred sentinel]

is using runTaskTimer very bad for optimization?

[tender shard]

no

[kindred sentinel]

So is it about the same as a cyclic command block in terms of optimization?

[smoky oak]

I'm not understanding this...
player.sendMessage("Speed: "+player.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_SPEED).getValue());
I'm manipluating this attribute to be 1.6d, but why do axes still have their long recharge time? Do i need to bind it to the item?

[lilac dagger]

just try to run it as sparse as possible

don't just use tick when you can use every 20 sec

[orchid trout]

why clazz

why not just class

[lilac dagger]

class is a keyword

[orchid trout]

oh i was just gonna say

didnt know that

[lilac dagger]

you can't have variables with keywords, at least in ides

[tender shard]

ofc something like "eventClass" would be an allowed name but it's quite common to always use clazz, e.g. eventClazz instead

[lilac dagger]

once mojang mappings had a method name called do

i had to reflect to get it

[kindred sentinel]

yeah i know

[tender shard]

i once got a warning by staff because my obfuscator also called a class "do" (because it used the normal aa, ab, ac, etc naming)

since then I switched to $ + keyword naming

e.g. my methods are called $case()

[lilac dagger]

i see

[sullen marlin]

Tbh that sounds like a mistake

Not the intention of the rules anyway

[tender shard]

IAmAFord said "do is a keyword and hence not allowed" so I just changed it

not a big deal

[lilac dagger]

to be honest it doesn't affect readability

[tender shard]

it was "if", not "do", my bad lol

i then messaged allatori and they now made the "aa, ab, ..." mode not use keywords anymore lol

[kind hatch]

Kinda surprised the obfuscator didn't already do that.

[tender shard]

well usually it's not a problem if a class is called "if"

[lilac dagger]

interesting that you can just message them and have stuff actually done

[tender shard]

yeah they even made a custom version for me once

i asked them to add an option to change to which class the string decryption method gets added since it just used a random class and sometimes, that used to be my WorldGuardHandler class that must ofc not be loaded if WorldGuard is not installed

[lilac dagger]

or if it was a nms class

this is so cool

[tender shard]

oh I see the custom version they made was for sth different

[lilac dagger]

with proguard you're kind of on your own

[tender shard]

yeah but proguard is free, isnt it?

[lilac dagger]

yeah

technically you can pay for more features

like string encryption

[tender shard]

i was spectical about allatori at first because their website looks like 1999 but the customer service is great and they added every single of my suggestions / fixed all my bug reports within 1-2 days

[sullen marlin]

Still looks more modern then zelix

[tender shard]

yes lol

[lilac dagger]

you can't really fault devs for making bad website pages

[tender shard]

yeah I also just bought themes for my websites

if I would have to make them myself they'd look like 1999 too

[smoky oak]

did some testing, it's not a visual glitch on the axes. for some reason the attribute just gets flat out ignored
anyone know why?

[kindred sentinel]

Is it possible to make an Overlay for a player like powdered snow or barrier

like if player in the snow biome he has overlay like from powdered snow

[sullen marlin]

I think freeze ticks?

Not sure if it's client side

But try setting that

[kindred sentinel]

Yeah

it's freeze ticks

[echo basalt]

p sure the player actually starts shivering n stuff

The nice way of doing this is to just send a packet

[kindred sentinel]

but what about barrier overlay?

[echo basalt]

yeah that's the warning distance of the world border

[kind hatch]

That's the world border overlay. For when you're too far away outside of the barrier.

[echo basalt]

the vignette intensity has to do with the distance you are compared to the warning distance

[kind hatch]

I think it's referred to as warning distance.

[echo basalt]

So if the warning distance is 5, and you're 2 blocks away, it's 60%

[kindred sentinel]

yeah but is it possible to display it artificially?

[kind hatch]

With packets, yes.

[kindred sentinel]

packets?

[upbeat gale]

Hey, im trying to build and im recieving these errors ```2023-08-22T21:38:34.221+0100 [ERROR] [org.gradle.internal.buildevents.BuildExceptionReporter] Error occurred during initialization of VM
2023-08-22T21:38:34.221+0100 [ERROR] [org.gradle.internal.buildevents.BuildExceptionReporter] Could not reserve enough space for 2097152KB object heap

Has anyone got any clue how to fix this, I have over 5gb ram available right now so im a little confused

[grim hound]

The way the client and server communicate

[kindred sentinel]

hm

it's too difficult for me i think

[smoky oak]

player.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().addAttributeModifier(
    Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_SPEED,
    new AttributeModifier("GGP",1.6 - player.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_SPEED).getValue(), AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER));

This is slightly modified code, but it should still work? Why is the modifier not getting applied?

I'm running the code while holding said wooden axe

[sullen marlin]

GetItemMeta returns a copy that needs to be .setItemMeta

[lilac dagger]

^

[smoky oak]

hm

and about the other issue?

[remote swallow]

im only seeing 1 issue

[lilac dagger]

keep in mind that setting an attribute wipes away existing ones

[smoky oak]

where it says my attack speed is 1.6 but its in actuality closer to 0.7?

well im doing this nonsense cuz setting player Generic_attack_speed doesnt do squat

[smoky oak]

see here

it prints out my speed is 1.6

but when i actually attack it recharges with normal = slow speed

[sullen marlin]

Not sure if that method takes into account items

[smoky oak]

it does

it registers 'weapons' and 'tools' if you print out the components for the player attribute

depending on whats in your hand

it just doesnt accept any input

or well, ignores it

[ornate mantle]

i hate nms

[tender shard]

same, but with mojang maps it's halfway usable

[ornate mantle]

not anymore

[valid burrow]

is there a way to get bungeecord servers status without using bungeecord

[ornate mantle]

the connection variable in 1.20 is now private

[tender shard]

what do you need it for?

[ornate mantle]

in the serverplayer class

[ornate mantle]

packet listener

i tried the reflection method

[tender shard]

then you have to getDeclaredFields(), loop over that until you find one of type ServerGamePacketListenerimpl

[smoky oak]

wait

[sullen marlin]

There's a public method

[smoky oak]

can creative mode mess with attributes?
thats ALSO not it, im losing my mind

[tender shard]

which class exactly do you need? the Connection or the ServerGamePacketListenerImpl?

[ornate mantle]

servergamepacketlistenerimpl is public

connection isnt

which is what i need

[tender shard]

well then do

Class<ServerGamePacketListenerImpl> clazz = ServerGamePacketListenerImpl.class;
Connection connection = null;
for(Field field : clazz.getDeclaredFields()) {
  if(field.getType.getClass() == Connection.class) {
    connection = field.get(myServerGamePacketListenerImpl);

[ornate mantle]

reflection is so unreliable man

[tender shard]

oh dont forget to set it accessible

but yeah if you get the field through its type, you don't have to worry about the obfuscated name

[ornate mantle]

public Connection getConnection(){
        Field field = ((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().connection.getClass().getDeclaredField("f"); // connection
        field.setAccessible(true);
        return (Connection) field.get(((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().connection);
}```

this is what i did

[tender shard]

yeah but that's bound to that specific mapping

better use the field's type

[sullen marlin]

Which part of there's a public method was unclear

[tender shard]

there is none for Connection?

[ornate mantle]

^

[tender shard]

there is a field to get the ServerGamePacketListenerImpl on ServerPlayer (called connection, it's public))

but Connection is another class (extending the SImpleChannelInboundHandler) and there is no method to get that

see here, field "connection" https://nms.screamingsandals.org/1.20.1/net/minecraft/server/network/ServerGamePacketListenerImpl.html

the only way to get the "Connection" object is to get it from the private field "connection" in ServerGamePacketListenerImpl

[ornate mantle]

why'd they change it tho

[tender shard]

because mojang doesnt care whether you need it 🥲

[ornate mantle]

does mojang make nms?

lol

[tender shard]

yes ofc lol

[ornate mantle]

i barely know anything about this

[tender shard]

NMS is the original minecraft code

[smoky oak]

and remapped is the slightly more stable version created by spigot

[ornate mantle]

why is the obfuscated mapping called spigot and the good one mojang?

[smoky oak]

i dont think it is?

[ornate mantle]

oh i cant read english

its the mojang mappings remapped

its called remapped-mojang

[carmine mica]

there is obfuscated, spigot mappings (not good), and mojang mappings (good)

spigot only changes the names of classes now, and not new ones

[smoky oak]

wait theres three?

[tender shard]

that's not correct.

Obfuscated mapping is the REAL obfuscated mappings, with classes called aa, ab, ac.

Spigot uses spigot mappings, which uses the obfuscated method and field names, but its own class names.

[carmine mica]

there's way more than 3, other projects use others

[smoky oak]

which one of the remapped ones does --remapped spit out then?

[ornate mantle]

and mojang?

the good one everyone likes

[carmine mica]

but its own class names.
but not for new classes, new classes use mojang's mappings

[tender shard]

see here:

1. MOjang mapped name: what mojang uses in their own code
2. Obfuscated name "aig" - that's what the vanilla server calls it
3. Spigot - that's how spigot called this class

if you use mojang maps in your plugin, then first the class name gets translated from mojang > obfuscated and then from obfuscated to spigot mappings, IIRC

although the only difference between spigot and obfuscated nowadays is class names

before 1.17, spigot also renamed methods and fields (sometimes), since 1.17 it does not do that anymore (in favor of mojang maps)

[ornate mantle]

i feel like you're chatgpt the way you bring up massive amounts of information in seconds

[tender shard]

🥲

[smoky oak]

he writes a blog

hes used to this

also on the earlier topic...
i really dont want to have to mess with item metadata if i dont have to. I just cant figure out why the final value of the attribute is ignored and replaced with a different one somehow? 1.6 -> 0.7

[naive loom]

Do clients have client side interpolation with items? (e.g. if I set the location of a stone block item entity will it smoothly transition to the set location or does it just teleport)

[smoky oak]

i think stuff just teleports

[tender shard]

yeah that's correct

e.g. Spigot: EntityZombie, Mojang: Zombie
but for Camel (1.20), it's both Camel

[kind hatch]

Items/Entities just teleport. The only things that interpolate are Display Entities.

[tender shard]

my beloved display entities ❤️

best addition in the history of additions, maybe ever

[naive loom]

How would I make it so it smoothly transitions to another location?

Like how if you throw a water in a flowing water stream it just flows down.

Trying to create a sort of "conveyor belt".

[onyx fjord]

chat signing is theb est addition

we all wanted it

and mojang delivered

and number 2 are armorstands

[sullen marlin]

mfnalex wiki when

[tender shard]

install mediawiki 🥲

the spigot wiki is pain because of bbcode - and people flood the discussions with their own personal problems instead of simply discussing the article

[kind hatch]

I'm not too sure about that. I think that's done with velocity, but it might be something else that controls that type of movement.

[remote swallow]

looks like wikipedia

[tender shard]

it is wikipedia

[remote swallow]

oh its trash then

just the docs better

[tender shard]

mediawiki is not trash

well but probably overkill for most things

[green plaza]

When i want to sell plugin on spigotmc can i make obf with my own obfuscator?

[tender shard]

the list of obfuscators allowed are listed in the rules on the website. other obfuscators require approval

[onyx fjord]

Docusaurus is great

especially for programming related stuff

[tender shard]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/approved-obfuscators.420746/

No other obfuscator, whether public or private may be used on resources uploaded to this site. To inquire about adding an obfuscator to the above list, please contact staff and provide a sample plugin.

[green plaza]

Why is that?

[onyx fjord]

is it really worth it?

[green plaza]

Well obfsucators from this list are all easy cracked by anyone who can use google

[onyx fjord]

yours will also get cracked

[tender shard]

because "the decompiled code must be somewhat legible by staff"

as mentioned in the general rules: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-rules/

[sullen marlin]

will you write all the articles :p

[tender shard]

point 4.1.6

[smoky oak]

so is nms

[green plaza]

I didn't code project for a month so a day after release it will be available at black spigot for free

[carmine mica]

Obfuscation isn’t the thing preventing that…

[green plaza]

Why

[onyx fjord]

bad news, obfuscation wont make your plugin uncrackable

and DRM isnt allowed

so have fun

[green plaza]

Yea it is XD I'll show u something

[onyx fjord]

no its not

[tender shard]

maybeeee 😄

[naive loom]

public class ItemInterpolationTask extends BukkitRunnable {
    private final Item item;
    private final Location targetLocation;
    private final int steps;
    private int step = 0;

    public ItemInterpolationTask(Item item, Location targetLocation, int steps) {
        this.item = item;
        this.targetLocation = targetLocation;
        this.steps = steps;
    }

    @Override
    public void run() {
        step++;

        double progress = (double) step / steps;
        double x = item.getLocation().getX() + (targetLocation.getX() - item.getLocation().getX()) * progress;
        double y = item.getLocation().getY() + (targetLocation.getY() - item.getLocation().getY()) * progress;
        double z = item.getLocation().getZ() + (targetLocation.getZ() - item.getLocation().getZ()) * progress;

        item.teleport(new Location(item.getWorld(), x, y, z));

        if (step >= steps) {
            cancel();
        }
    }
}
```You think this would handle interpolation of the item smoothly? With steps being the "smoothness" of movement.

[onyx fjord]

you dont need the full deobufscated code to remove a part of DRM

also @green plaza im assuming you will use obfuscation + some form of drm

[green plaza]

Lmao

[onyx fjord]

is that correct

???

[green plaza]

u cant even decompile this shit

[tender shard]

obfuscation is pretty pointless - and I say that as someone who paid for obfuscators twice

[onyx fjord]

send me the jar

[tender shard]

no need to, you look at the byte code

[remote swallow]

so you cant publish to spigot

[carmine mica]

Open source + premium support is the better model

[remote swallow]

staff need to be able to read it

[tender shard]

^

[green plaza]

Why

[green plaza]

Ofc i'll send u

[tender shard]

to see that you're not doing total shit in your plugin

you know, premium plugins require approval

[remote swallow]

check for malware, check for drm, etc

[carmine mica]

Pay for compiled jar on spigot, open source, only offer support on discord or whatever to those who pay

[ornate mantle]

if theyre not gonna fix my bugs then whats the point

[tender shard]

i do it like that, but the distributed .jar is still obfsucated kek

[onyx fjord]

obfuscation is good at hiding bad code

lets be honest most premium plugins have shit code

[green plaza]

So it should work like that that staff compile your project from src and post it and verify from src.

[onyx fjord]

because why care if noone sees it

[tender shard]

idk they must have at least a minimum standard of code quality to get approved in the first place

[onyx fjord]

you dont need that, just post checksums

i do that

[green plaza]

Posting on spigotmc premium projects is basicly allowing someone to crack it and post it 2 days later on black spigot

[onyx fjord]

then dont publish anything

keep it to yourself

if you are scared of publishing something

[carmine mica]

(This is why you do paid support, can’t “steal” that)

[tender shard]

you can easily write an email to [e-mail] and ask to get your custom obfuscator approved. Otherwise, it's simply not approved, and discussing WHY with us doesn't help because we didn't make the rules

[green plaza]

OKay great

Perfect

I didn't know its available option

[onyx fjord]

you cant stop it, your plugin will get cracked sooner or later

[tender shard]

yeah because you didnt read the rules

I have sent you both articles that both mention this and also included a quote where it's mentioned

[onyx fjord]

@green plaza but why obfuscate when someone can just repost the obfuscated jar?

makes no sense

[tender shard]

here's AGAIN the links:
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/approved-obfuscators.420746/
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-rules/ rule 4.1.6

[green plaza]

Belive me or not its not going to be. I don't belive anyone here is able to crack it

[onyx fjord]

you will be suprised

[green plaza]

He can not

[onyx fjord]

whats stopping that person

[kind hatch]

Words before disaster.

[onyx fjord]

every one of them say the same thing

[tender shard]

why not? you do realize that DRM is only partly allowed right? your .jar must work straight "as is" after downloading it, without any additional setup or internet connection - which is btw, also mentioned in the rules

[green plaza]

No one is secured but using more complicated and advanced techniques to secure the code drasticly decrease amount of ppl that can crack it

[chrome beacon]

Is that a challenge

[kind hatch]

I'd bet Optic or Frost could do it in less than an hour.

[onyx fjord]

wdym by secure the code

[tender shard]

i bet even I could do it

[green plaza]

So no one can crack it. Do everything to secure it

[kind hatch]

Security through obscurity is a myth.

[onyx fjord]

your plugin has to work offline you know that?

[tender shard]

the more effort you put into obfuscation, the more people will see it as challenge to make you look stupid

[green plaza]

It does

[green plaza]

I' even plan to pay for cracking it

[onyx fjord]

yeah then your attempts of making it uncrackable are pointless

anyone can just firewall any drm you got

or straight up remove it

[green plaza]

U seem like u pro

So great

[tender shard]

how much?

[onyx fjord]

im interested

make that a competition

lets see who does it first

but deposit money to staff so we know you dont scam us

[green plaza]

Depends but from hundreds to thousends

[tender shard]

yeah you can open a thread in spigot forums and send your .jar there, then ask people to crack whatever there is to get cracked

[green plaza]

No XD

Why would i help ppl to crack it

[onyx fjord]

how do we know that you are not going to scam us

[green plaza]

I don't rly give a fuck what u know or u don't

[tender shard]

a minute ago you wanted to offer them thousands of dollars and now you don't want to distribute a .jar? then how would someone crack it if you don't send the .jar? is your method of preventing cracks that you simply not upload anything? because if so, then yeah, that'll work

[onyx fjord]

there are many reasons not to trust you

first is you trying to hide your code

thats shady

[tender shard]

brb smoking

[green plaza]

Anything u buy from internet is trying to hide its source code. From games to applications so u can not make copy of it and sell it

[onyx fjord]

no

[kind hatch]

You smoke? I thought you just drank? .-.

[onyx fjord]

i dont really buy proprietary software

nor i use it

[kind hatch]

Not true. Yes, there are a large amount of programs do that, but there are just as many open source programs out there.

[onyx fjord]

some games are an exception

[green plaza]

There are bilions ppl here except u

[onyx fjord]

cool i dont care

[river oracle]

Proprietary software has its place, granted I don't think its great in all scenarios

[onyx fjord]

the rest of the world doesnt matter to me besides my family and friends

[tender shard]

Nah i only smoke (cigarettes)

[green plaza]

Okay mine is not open source so why do u even compare it to opean source XD

[onyx fjord]

@green plaza do you know whats the license of bukkit api / spigot api

[green plaza]

Idk never thought of this

[onyx fjord]

LOL

look into it

[kind hatch]

Well uhh, you're not going to like it then. lol

[onyx fjord]

spoiler: its not on your side

[river oracle]

just turn a blind eye and pretend you didn't see it :P

[onyx fjord]

i wish i could do that for taxes

[green plaza]

GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE

[onyx fjord]

and just not pay them

[green plaza]

Is that it?

[river oracle]

ikr

GPLv3

[onyx fjord]

yes version 3 (or later)

[tender shard]

Yeah that would be very handy lol

[green plaza]

Great bcs its not a plugin

So i don't think it apply for this license

[onyx fjord]

it doesnt matter

you use it in your plugin

[tender shard]

Then you cannot sell it on spigot

[onyx fjord]

so it applies

ogh its not a plugin

then what is it

[tender shard]

You can only sell plugins on spigot

[green plaza]

I can not sell engine on spigot?

[onyx fjord]

💀

[green plaza]

Oh weired

[onyx fjord]

mf is trying to sell mojangs code

[tender shard]

Have you still not read the rules?

[onyx fjord]

@green plaza is the fork for version 1.8

[tender shard]

I sent them thrice

[green plaza]

Yea ofc

[onyx fjord]

let me go ahead and notify mojang about that

you know that its illegal to resell their code right

[green plaza]

XDDD

[quaint mantle]

Good evening, I'm using CombatLogX and I can't add the menu command. Can you help me?
Picture here #verified

[onyx fjord]

you can be sued for that

[remote swallow]

ud have to use bbb to sell server jars probably

[green plaza]

U stupid asf

[onyx fjord]

theres a reason theres no public access to compiled spigot jars

[onyx fjord]

i think you are

[tender shard]

Are you 13 or sth

[onyx fjord]

based on your knowledge

[green plaza]

Great i have not a single code from mojang

[green plaza]

20

[onyx fjord]

really?

[green plaza]

Yea magic

What it is

[onyx fjord]

you built minecraft server from scratch?

[tender shard]

Then behave like that and stop insulting people

[green plaza]

A little bit

[onyx fjord]

then does it have their code or not

[green plaza]

Nope

It does not

[onyx fjord]

can you prove it?

[tender shard]

Itd be mojangs job to prove they used their code

Not the other way around

[onyx fjord]

not hard to verify

if its a fork theres a ton of code

[green plaza]

It only handle necesery things like ArmorStand, Players, Worlds, Blocks, locations, Items, Commands, Inventories

[tender shard]

you forgot that their obfuscation is uncrackable /scnr