help-development

[spare hazel]

dude i give up i will just find one on black spigot
idc if it has viruses

[remote swallow]

what are you even making

[kind hatch]

Either a premium plugin that requires manual compilation for non buyers.
Or an addition to an old plugin.

[spare hazel]

Trails Plugin With Individual Perms For Each Trail Particle

[remote swallow]

does a plugin already exist that adds the trails?

[spare hazel]

yes i know about GadgetsMenu

but it has a bunch of other unnecesary stuff including the spooderman set which litteraly destroys the game mode im making

[remote swallow]

i found this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/gparticles-recoded-new-1-19-infinite-particles-trails-customization-paged-gui-system.10225/

its os so you can just add the feature

[spare hazel]

All the Plugins That Have G before their names need GCore
but whatever i will use it

[remote swallow]

oh no?

[lost matrix]

You want this guy to shade in his library instead? 😄
Having 3mb on each plugin instead of a 2.9mb lib and several 0.1mb plugins.

[spare hazel]

why is a core plugin even needed? cant he just do everything inside of the plugin? im sure only %5 of the 2.9MB plugin is needed for the particle plugin to work

[remote swallow]

its a library

do you think people rewrite every util method they ever use

[ivory sleet]

smile when u worked with netty and packets

did u by any chance use reflection to get the data from the packet fields

or did you just edit raw bytes

[lost matrix]

let me check

Wait

I most certainly did not read the bytes. That would be insane.
You would have to use a pipeline component of netty to deserialize them again.

[ivory sleet]

yeah alr alr

cuz iirc both packet events and plib do use reflection

[flint coyote]

It does make sense if the lib changes and the plugins don't wanna update with each library change. Either that or no breaking changes in the library (ever)

[lost matrix]

Thats how you design a library or api. You dont break them and if you fundamentally change something then
you add a deprecation annotation about your old code and let it sit there for half a year (see spigot)

[flint coyote]

I am aware of that. I just wanted to mention it

[kind hatch]

Bukkit#getOfflinePlayer(String name) would like to speak with you.

[lost matrix]

I mean this one is just abuse of the deprecation tag...

Like painting a skull on something so that children dont use it. But in reality its usage is just a bit tricky.

[sinful edge]

Looks like this was a mistake. In the history of the chunk format site they changed it to "X, then Z, then Y" on 03:26, 27 June 2020.

[kind hatch]

So what you're saying is, to pr an update to the javadoc with the skull emoji. Gotcha

[lost matrix]

lol

[remote swallow]

thats how we should deprecate stuff from now on

fill the jds with skulls

[flint coyote]

Well it might be deprecated but it isn't marked as "will be removed"

Therefore it is kinda fair to say "Should not be used since there's UUIDs"

[kind hatch]

I think there's an @Use tag that could have been utilized.

The problem with that method specifically is that it has valid usecases. It's just that the majority of the time, you want to be using UUIDs.

It shouldn't be deprecated, but marked some other way.

Not sure if there's an existing annotation tag that covers this specifc case though.

[flint coyote]

I wouldn't say there's a need for a specific annotation. Just mention it in the javadoc

[lost matrix]

I would prefer one because my sonar settings wont let me compile while using deprecations unless i manually exclude classes...

[grim ice]

any ideas on a good obfuscating method?

just ideas are fine

[flint coyote]

Can you add single methods or only classes?

[flint coyote]

just don't write readable code in the first place /s

[grim ice]

Im serious lol

[kind hatch]

Honestly, not bad advice for a language that isn't made to be obfuscated.

[flint coyote]

Do you want to code a method to obfuscate or what do you mean by "obfuscation method"?

[grim ice]

I need a method, that i can implement to make a long lasting obfuscator

just an idea

of how to make it harder for people to deobfuscate

[lost matrix]

Just use an obfuscator?

[grim ice]

Easily deobfuscatable

even a toddler can crack it, in most cases

[flint coyote]

in that case: Don't use java

[grim ice]

when you have 50 people striving to crack it

public obfuscators arent really an option

[kind hatch]

You're not going to stop determined people though. :p

[grim ice]

nah

[kind hatch]

Especially with this language.

[grim ice]

im gonna make their life extremely hard

thats all

[worldly ingot]

So long as you're aware that you're coming into a community built exclusively on open source software to ask if there's a way to obfuscate closed source software

[clear panther]

Hello i made a plugin that spawns bosses and theres only some of them work another just send the usage
like /FR
but the question is i used all stuff correctly i registered all command and event and write command on plugin.yml
still doesnt work HELP

[grim ice]

e.g Rijndael's key schedule isnt uncrackable

[flint coyote]

The possibly best obfuscation that you can have for java is annoying variable names and spaghetti-code. You can't go as far as to encrypt it

[grim ice]

its just extremely tedious to solve it, and needs a lot of power

[lost matrix]

Code

[grim ice]

It isnt a spigot plugin

[clear panther]

wym

[kind hatch]

Make a translator that obfuscates it into emojis.

[grim ice]

I just wanna learn how to make one

[grim ice]

and how would anyone access it

[lost matrix]

Please send your code. We cant help you otherwise.

[flint coyote]

how should the JVM execute a jar full of emojis?

[clear panther]

okay dm

[worldly ingot]

That's... not relevant...?

[kind hatch]

Pretty sure it would use the string representation of the emoji.

At least if it was converted properly.

[flint coyote]

you can't just translate

public static void main...
to
☺☻♥♦...
and expect it to work lol

[lost matrix]

Simply use an established obfuscator. You wont be able
to write something more intricate than a whole team which
researched this topic for years.

[kind hatch]

Well, not in java, but it would def make it harder to understand.

[lost matrix]

?code

[flint coyote]

I thought we are talking about java here?

[lost matrix]

?codeblocks

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[grim ice]

the problem is the method of how it obfuscates it is public

so its easy to reverse

[kind hatch]

I feel like it could be done in theory.

[flint coyote]

so is the encryption of https

[lost matrix]

Thats not how obfuscation works...

[clear panther]

uh i created 9 bosses and 4 doesnt work soo u want full code? or just the main class and plugin.yml or u want pom or smh?

[lost matrix]

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: The skull profile is missing a name or textures!

You sometimes can take exceptions literally. Add a name or textures to your profile before applying it on a skull.

[remote swallow]

is that below 1.18.1

[grim ice]

All i would like is, to be able to link the usage of a code to a key, that can be regenerated for a good amount of time

[remote swallow]

is it still below 1.18.1

[clear panther]

i think u can just spawn a fake player and make them send packet

[remote swallow]

if it is theres a better way

[lost matrix]

Just the command

[remote swallow]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/creating-custom-heads-in-spigot-1-18-1/

[clear panther]

okay

[grim ice]

Ugh

[clear panther]

Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("kit")).setExecutor(new Kit());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new Kit(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("ZW")).setExecutor(new ZoneWarrior());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new ZoneWarrior(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("Titan")).setExecutor(new Titan());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new Titan(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("fr")).setExecutor(new Sword());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new Sword(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("ac")).setExecutor(new AncientSkeleton());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new AncientSkeleton(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("Skilra")).setExecutor(new Skilra());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new Skilra(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("TD")).setExecutor(new TheDupe());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new TheDupe(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("SE")).setExecutor(new SoulEater());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new SoulEater(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("levi")).setExecutor(new levitation());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new levitation(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("TE")).setExecutor(new TheEnd());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new TheEnd(), this);
Objects.requireNonNull(getCommand("VD")).setExecutor(new VoidDragon());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new VoidDragon(), this);
}

@Override
public void onDisable() {
    // Plugin shutdown logic
}

}

[clear panther]

name: SkyMine
version: '${project.version}'
main: com.github.cutealpacafr.skymine.SkyMine
api-version: 1.18
commands:
kit:
description: Your description
usage: /kit
ZW:
description: Your description
usage: /zw
Scroll:
description: give you scroll
usage: /Scroll
fr:
description: Your description
usage: /fr
Titan:
description: spawns titan
usage: /Titan
AC:
description: Your description
usage: /ac
Skilra:
description: SKilllllra
usage: /Skilra
TD:
description: the dupe!
usage: /TD
SE:
description: se
usage: /SE
levi:
description: se
usage: /levi
TE:
description: se
usage: /TE
VD:
description: se
usage: /VD

[lost matrix]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[lost matrix]

Paste the commands that dont work.
And make sure to send any exceptions

[clear panther]

https://paste.md-5.net/awatukesof.coffeescript

[kind hatch]

I think I found out why there is no easy javadoc parsing discord bot. Turns out everyone does their javadocs differently!
The HTML is the pretty much the same, but the css class names used vary from project to project without any form of consistency.
So now I have to write pretty much everything from scratch. :3

Fucking kotlin.

MySQL?
It's all HTML though....

[lost matrix]

You need to show the actual command method...

Lets start with just one

[grim ice]

Question, would obfuscating an already obfuscated jar file 100 times, make it harder to deobfuscate?

[lost matrix]

No

[grim ice]

💀

worth a shot

[kind hatch]

That would likely just cause it to not work at all.

[grim ice]

Made sense though, since if there was an algorithm to crack it, it work for any amount of obfuscations

[waxen plinth]

it's like asking if scrambling a rubik's cube 100 times is better than scrambling it once

[waxen plinth]

not necessarily

stuff like that tends to be probabilistic in nature

[kind hatch]

Tmw all rubiks cubes are solvable in under 12 moves.

[waxen plinth]

20

[lost matrix]

Imagine having to wait 20mins to find out what your exception does even with the keys at your disposal

[lost matrix]

Write some stuff in C, compile dlls and make JNI calls.
Just make sure to support every target instruction set

[grim ice]

I would be lying if I said I fully understand what you told me to do

I know whats C, dlls and JNI calls, but in which way does that solve my problem

[waxen plinth]

write some stuff in rust*

[lost matrix]

You cant reverse engineer compiled binaries

[waxen plinth]

native binaries are much harder to decompile

[grim ice]

even if there some if statements in there?

Since I would need a verification system in there

to check if the user should be allowed access to the program or not

[lost matrix]

I mean you can but its really really fking hard

[lost matrix]

Yeah Rust is the goat. Currently learning it by writing some stuff for Bevy

[grim ice]

Not sure if that would really work, since I am using a framework

[waxen plinth]

❤️

what're you making with bevy

[grim ice]

ayo wtf redempt

i thought u were banned

[waxen plinth]

yeah I was banned

[kind hatch]

Fuck it, make your plugin borderline malware by having it download an obfuscated jar, loading it into memory, and then scrambling itself every 3 seconds.

[waxen plinth]

they banned me for being too cool

they've definitely removed plugins from the spigot forums for less

[lost matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScy18pVR58

We are rewriting this so we can let our chess bots battle in a small tournament

[remote swallow]

who is we

[waxen plinth]

oh nice

that sounds like a really fun project

[lost matrix]

Me and some fellow students. We all chose Machine Learning, Applied Statistics and Computer Vision last semester
and wanted to see if we can use that knowledge for some fun 😄

[waxen plinth]

code golf with tokens instead of characters seems better

you could probably make a minimax in that pretty easily

[grim ice]

GOD DAMN SEBASTIAN LAGUE

I LOVE THAT DUDE

my whole day gets lightened when he uploads

[grim ice]

Doesnt really work

since the obfuscated jar

could be stolen

from ur code

that doesnt work

[lost matrix]

Sure. If you can do that with 1024 tokens ^^
But there are a few interesting approaches within
the evaluation method of this implementation

[grim ice]

would you be able to clarify on this

[lost matrix]

I said that half jokingly

[grim ice]

hmm

what if i like

encrypt code

then encrypt the encrypted code

for like

100 times

and have a list of 100 keys

then list them all in an array

then encrypt it

that would still be useless right?

[kind hatch]

You'd need 100 different encryption methods. Not to mention they would have to produce a result that still follows java rules.

Many encryption hashes end up with numbers at the front.

[grim ice]

yes the result is unobfuscated code

[grim ice]

end the code with a // maybe

[grim ice]

it would still not provide a hard to decrypt result right

[waxen plinth]

2hex what is your obsession with obfuscation

[grim ice]

since the encryption method is still gonna be available

[grim ice]

i am very triggered

[waxen plinth]

by what

[grim ice]

that i know nothing about this

[waxen plinth]

obfuscation sucks tbh

generally I don't think there is a good reason to do it

[grim ice]

still, its something i want to learn

[grim hound]

I'm trying to let Essentials or basically any other plugin register their command and not let my own commands override them. But for some reason (Essentials in particular) it seems that it doesn't even attempt to register their own commands and my plugin ends up overriding them no matter what

what the f-

[kind hatch]

Essentials does that on purpose.

[grim hound]

E

But it somehow does it before even anything has happened

[waxen plinth]

it could be reading your plugin's description and see that it's going to register commands

[grim hound]

mother hacker

[kind hatch]

Or just loading after.

[grim hound]

but I want it to override my commands, not the other way around

[waxen plinth]

this seems like a good time to advertise my libraries

[grim hound]

It's somehow always [My plugin's name]

'e' is the command executor

[waxen plinth]

just make a command framework

[grim hound]

Like this mfo somehow doesn't even let his plugin.yml load

[kind hatch]

Do we still not have a way to set command priority?

[grim hound]

I made my loadbefore so his commands could register later and override mine, but somehow it seemed to have never registered

[waxen plinth]

huh

wouldn't you want essentials to load first

I'm pretty sure it's first to register, not last to register, that stays

[grim hound]

like it's overriding it's own plugin.yml

[grim hound]

I also tried after

but no, I'm pretty sure it's the last one

[kind hatch]

If it's first registration, then Essentials would get the priority regardless if it loaded first.

[grim hound]

what do I dooo

[grim ice]

should I try for example, link the user's MAC address to the code

[grim hound]

maybe I should ping md5? He did this plugin, he should know

[grim ice]

so that the only key that could decrypt it is the mac address of the user

and if one was to advertise the decrypted version

it would leak their mac address

[kind hatch]

That's only going to work on your computer. Everyone will end up with the obfuscated version, which will have the same hash.

[grim ice]

no

i will have the users

[kind hatch]

???

[grim ice]

i mean the program

ttake the user's mac addresss

[kind hatch]

How do you expect to recompile the plugin on their computer??

[grim ice]

U can still leave traces to a jar file

on the fly

cant you?

and thats not what i meant to do

basically i would have a jar file

which i give to users

[kind hatch]

You do realize that you're entering malware territory now right?

[grim ice]

nah

[shadow night]

lol

[grim ice]

they will legally claim

that i am allowed to do this

assuming i am allowed to do all of this

this should work right

but

they would end up using it in a virtual machine

[hybrid spoke]

tf are you trying to do

[kind hatch]

Bruh. 💀
How is this not malware at this point. xD

If I'm booting up VMs to test a jar file, I already know it's got something in it.

[shadow night]

lmao

[grim ice]

im trying to make whoever tries to unobfuscate a jar file's life

significantly harder

[hybrid spoke]

then dont use java

[grim ice]

I need to use java

[hybrid spoke]

just obfuscate and turn it into exe

[shadow night]

I wish my internet worked

[grim ice]

the framework im using requires java

[hybrid spoke]

or just share your code

your code wont be some nasa logic nobody should know

[hazy parrot]

why do you want so hard to hide your code

[grim ice]

the whole point is not to

Lets not get into my reasoning

[vast ledge]

Idk if its payed content, he might want to protect it

[hybrid spoke]

to not be ashamed of.it

[hazy parrot]

that is what i trought of

[vast ledge]

but a simple obscufation layer should do

[grim ice]

easily deobfuscatable

[vast ledge]

Theyd just upload the plugin to black spigot

[grim ice]

using a random online deobfuscator

[vast ledge]

whats the point

[grim ice]

it is not a plugin

[hazy parrot]

doens't matter how good obfuscation is, if someone wants to crack it, he will crack it

[hybrid spoke]

i can just edit your jar lol

and build out everything you put in

[vast ledge]

Ik, it should put of the randoms that dont understand it tho

[grim ice]

I know

But i would love to make their life harder

so that it atleast takes a lot of time to deobfuscate

OH OH

[vast ledge]

You do know, they can just upload the entire jar

[grim ice]

maybe

[vast ledge]

and they can just decompile

[hybrid spoke]

even the point that you think it is interesting enough to be deobfuscated

[kind hatch]

You're contradicting yourself here.

If you want to make it harder to deobfuscate, how will it be easy to deobfuscate?

[grim ice]

i can make it so the first time they run the jar, it inserts a hidden task in their device, that would stop any packet that contains the jar file or something that resembles it?

[vast ledge]

Yea why he think his code is so important that it cant be seen

[grim ice]

Unfortunately

[vast ledge]

Illegal

[grim ice]

i profited 30k off this

[hazy parrot]

yeah that is called malware

[grim ice]

so

[hybrid spoke]

i really doubt that

[grim ice]

idk what to tell ya

[vast ledge]

Do you know any software

[grim ice]

why do u think i care about this so much

[vast ledge]

that does this?

[grim ice]

if its useless

[vast ledge]

no

because theres no point

[grim ice]

Well, any public one is not gonna be effective

[grim hound]

Is pinging md5 against the rules?

[grim ice]

Its with consent

[vast ledge]

Idk

[remote swallow]

no

[vast ledge]

Hell ban you if hes in a bad mood

[grim ice]

malware if provided with consent is legal

[grim hound]

well the f- it

[hybrid spoke]

lmao

[vast ledge]

Who is going to consent to malware

[kind hatch]

I'm pretty sure most people who have accidently ran malware did not give their consent.

[grim ice]

and how is this even malware

[hybrid spoke]

i mean try your best, but as it seems you wont receice any help here since its stupid

[grim ice]

Unfortunate

[vast ledge]

There, comes vilsibility again, youre asking a user, to give up there right to make claims against you, and allow you to run background tasks, which they dont know which ones because you cant tell them or they would diable them

[grim ice]

any other idea then

[vast ledge]

No

[grim ice]

rip

[vast ledge]

It pointless

[hazy parrot]

just make it oss smh

[kind hatch]

Installing a system service to monitor tasks runing in memory... Geez, I wonder how that could be deemed exploitative?

[grim ice]

There are many people

that achieved this

[vast ledge]

Why

What is the point

[grim ice]

and nobody could deobfuscate their file for years

[vast ledge]

Yea

now

any newer computer

[hazy parrot]

doubt

[vast ledge]

has the power to deobscufate the shit in less than a day

And the Obscufation would take so long

That there is just no point

[shadow night]

very true

[grim ice]

There is apoint

god, im not asking for an impossible to reverse obfuscation

[hybrid spoke]

there isnt

[grim ice]

Just to the point it would be annoying to reverse

[grim ice]

obviously

[hybrid spoke]

you are asking for malware help bro

[grim ice]

Im not asking for malware help brother

that was an idea

[vast ledge]

And You already come on with "I have to obscufate my Code", the user is going to say, oh what is the company trying to hide, are they using my computer in a botnet, because they want to run backround rasks?

[kind hatch]

Right, but how would a system service fit into obfuscation?

[grim ice]

which would be consented to

[shadow night]

if we were in modding mc server they would be banned already lmao

[hybrid spoke]

i think a good placed grow up is needed here

[vast ledge]

Yea

[grim ice]

what does growing up have to do with this

[vast ledge]

Blyat

There is not point

Just take the fact

[shadow night]

why do you say blyat

[hybrid spoke]

exactly that question lol

afk

[grim ice]

я могу говорить по русски ты шлюха

[vast ledge]

Why again

are you on the spigot discord server

asking about file encryption

[grim ice]

where else am i gonna ask

[shadow night]

АХАХАХАХААХХА

[vast ledge]

and or obscufation

[kind hatch]

Alatori?

[shadow night]

what?

[vast ledge]

On a discord that isnt about a friggin mc development

[shadow night]

can't even laugh in spigotmc

[grim ice]

dont know any other

[fluid river]

what u guys doin

[grim ice]

i expected at least one person to help

damn it

[vast ledge]

We aint helping

Somethign seen from a legal standpoint

[grim ice]

im being brutally bullied by 5 people

[kind hatch]

Help develop malware?

[vast ledge]

is viewed as malware

[grim ice]

again this is not malware

[hybrid spoke]

bullied lol sure

take it as that

[shadow night]

well, thats a sign that you should leave

[kind hatch]

From what you are describing, it most definitely is.

[grim ice]

thats a joke

[hybrid spoke]

that we dont fulfill your pointless wish

[grim ice]

WTF

[shadow night]

I'm not trying to hate, but they don't like you here

leave if you don't want a lil hole in your head

[grim ice]

dont see how people dont like me

[eternal oxide]

I like 2Hex fine enough

[vast ledge]

Ok, im going to explain this is simple words, If you are trying to run background tasks, obscufate files beyond reading, you are attempting to save peoples mac address, you are commit a crime, you are writing malware

[grim ice]

:D

[shadow night]

malware is a crime?

I didn't know

[vast ledge]

Idk

[grim ice]

if anything, i would say that this idea itself has a bad stigma to it

[remote swallow]

ur a malware

[vast ledge]

But Taking a persons data without there consent

Isnt legal

[grim ice]

Malware isnt malware when you consent

???

[shadow night]

google

[grim ice]

if they consent to it, it is not malware

[vast ledge]

Nobody is going to consent to give away there personal Data

[grim ice]

On a theoritical situation where they do

[kind hatch]

Yes, this is factual, HOWEVER, you are doing it WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT.

[eternal oxide]

Rootkits. Sony installed backdoors and malware with owners permission

[vast ledge]

What code did you write that has to be fricking encrypted, the nuclear launch codes?

[grim ice]

it is not without consent

[shadow night]

wat

[kind hatch]

Yes it is. Unless you disclose the entire system in full to all end users, it is malware.

[eternal oxide]

also recently a laptop manufacture was found to be installing a root certificate on all their laptops to give a backdoor

[kind hatch]

There is no reason for a Minecraft Plugin to be installing system services and grabbing system information such as MAC addresses.

[shadow night]

what laptop manufacture?

[grim ice]

Yall just ignore that the CIA

[vast ledge]

Thats what we call malware

[eternal oxide]

began with an L is all I remember

[shadow night]

didn't he say its not a mc plugin or something like that?

[grim ice]

installed recorders in smart TVs

[shadow night]

or am I high?

[kind hatch]

No, he wants this to be a plugin.

[grim ice]

its public info, so nobody can do shit about this really

[kind hatch]

Jar file and all.

[shadow night]

ah, ig I'm high then

[grim ice]

Not a plugin btw

[shadow night]

wait so I'm not high?

[kind hatch]

Then wtf are you asking for?

[grim ice]

You are not high

a jarfile, ran within a framework

[shadow night]

or am I so high I saw the future?

[grim ice]

that would be difficult, and or annoying to deobfuscate

[vast ledge]

Ok

[grim ice]

obviously it cant be impossible to

[vast ledge]

what the actaul fuck are you trying to make

[grim ice]

but just difficult is enough

[eternal oxide]

Lenovo, and Dell

[kind hatch]

Apparently. Quick, give me the lotto numbers.

[eternal oxide]

I just googled

[vast ledge]

What is the service you are offering

[grim ice]

Irrelevant

[vast ledge]

Its not

[grim ice]

however, it's quite demanded so Im sure they would agree to anything

[vast ledge]

Are you trying to make some software?

[kind hatch]

Cheating software?

[grim ice]

No

[kind hatch]

Crypto miner?

[grim ice]

If i want to make cheats, i aint making it in java

💀

[shadow night]

python?

[vast ledge]

nodejs

[grim ice]

lets just not talk about it

[remote swallow]

what can you even be making that you need it to install malware (even if you get end user consent)

[vast ledge]

Not even the anti cheats softwares

[kind hatch]

Hey, you brought this up.

[vast ledge]

That go to kernel level

[eternal oxide]

Help him or not but arguing will not change his mind. I don;t help with anythign possibly illegal but I'd suggest you either help or ignore.

[vast ledge]

do that type of shit

[spare hazel]

do you guys think hypixel used spigot as their base for their custom server software or something else?

[vast ledge]

Yes

[grim ice]

yall just heard me say one suspicious thing

[vast ledge]

pr üaüer

or paper*

[grim ice]

and assumed im comitting a federal offense

[vast ledge]

Creating malware is a federal offense

Installing**

[shadow night]

bro be making cheats in fucking nodejs 💀

[vast ledge]

xD

[fluid river]

for what

[remote swallow]

paper didnt exist in 1.7.10 iirc

[remote swallow]

bukkit

[vast ledge]

They run on 1.8 rn right?

[remote swallow]

they run modified 1.7.10

[shadow night]

like, python is made for all the stuff, but bro, nodejs isn't made for any manipulations of the system in any ways besides well files. No cursor tracking or anything

[grim hound]

How can you identify a player which sent a PacketPlayInEncryptionBegin (using ProtocolLib)? The username from 1.20 is 'UNKNOWN' for some reason making the LoginStart packet pretty useless and the uuid is not yet initialized.

[grim ice]

even assisted homicide is legal when consented to in Canada

[vast ledge]

In canada

[grim ice]

Consent matters

[vast ledge]

are you in canada?

[grim hound]

is saving the player var to a set the only way?

[grim ice]

I live in africa

how bold of you to think there are enforced rules here

[shadow night]

well, by that logic I live in the baltic sea

[grim hound]

yeah, that'll throw an error, fuck

[grim ice]

Well, does anyone know a server in which I can find people that are willing to help?

[vast ledge]

No

[echo basalt]

With?

[grim hound]

with what?

[echo basalt]

some of us got absolutely no context

I just got home

[vast ledge]

Trying to find a server that will help him create malware

[kind hatch]

He's creating malware.

[grim ice]

I am trying to create a difficult to reverse obfuscator

I am not creating malware

i swear

😭

[echo basalt]

ask optic lm ao

[kind hatch]

xD

[vast ledge]

Running backround tasks, that are invisible to a user, saving there mac

[grim hound]

like java code obfuscator?

[echo basalt]

there's no reason to run obfuscation

[grim ice]

I know

[vast ledge]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[echo basalt]

if you actually trust your own code

[grim ice]

but thats not the point

[echo basalt]

it kind of is

XY problem

no reason to be doing X so we won't help you with Y

[vast ledge]

He wont even tell us what hes making

[grim hound]

okay guys, really, please help

[grim ice]

Look

I already came to the conclusion

[echo basalt]

That packet might fire after handshake login

[grim ice]

that I need to do this

[vast ledge]

Why

[grim ice]

you dont need to care about why im doing this

[hybrid spoke]

good for you

[echo basalt]

but it gives you no player context

[hybrid spoke]

then dont ask us

[grim ice]

Whats wrong with you?

[echo basalt]

so we don't care about helping you either

[vast ledge]

But what is the point

[echo basalt]

simple enough

[vast ledge]

Yep

[grim ice]

No need to be rude about it

[hybrid spoke]

lmao

[grim hound]

It's Handshake, LoginStart, EncryptionBegin. As I was testing I saw the LoginStart before EncryptionBegin

[grim ice]

I'm not saying im entitled to any help lmao

[echo basalt]

LoginStart sends player data

[grim ice]

just say no, and speak for yourself

[vast ledge]

I still dont understand why you are on a serveres software discord, asking about file encryption, obscufating, creating malware etc.

[grim ice]

Ironic.

[shadow night]

2Hex I told you to just leave this discussion a while ago, that'd be better for the mental health and stability of all of us

[hybrid spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin venture]

hi nop question , will this stripe the string from any color codes

ChatColor.stripColor(tag)

[grim hound]

yeah, but the username is 'UNKNOWN[player's ip]' since 1.20

for some reason

[echo basalt]

That strips colors

[kind hatch]

it will strip all bukkit color codes.

[vast ledge]

yep

[echo basalt]

if you want to strip color codes

[kind hatch]

It won't remove hex codes.

[echo basalt]

You translate the color codes before stripping

[twin venture]

so if i do :
&7Admin , it will only send Admin

[kind hatch]

Yes

[twin venture]

alr thanks that what i want :p

[echo basalt]

yeah you translate and strip

[vast ledge]

You might have to translate it before

so

ChatColor.translateAlternatColorCodes('&', urString);

and then strip

[twin venture]

naa , iam creating a guild system and each guild have a tag and there is a custom value for Color so each tag have its own color

[echo basalt]

man knows how to translate a tring

[twin venture]

./guild color colorcode

[high pewter]

Is there a static field for or a function to get the default config file name (or even better, the File object)? I'm using Jackson to deseriallize it, so I need to obtain a File object, but it feels wrong to hard-code "config.yml" lol

[vast ledge]

I just wanted to make sure 😢

[echo basalt]

getConfig just returns config.yml

Jackson is a json lib

[twin venture]

but when creating a guild , there was a glitch admin can create a guild with a color code ..

[high pewter]

Jackson supports YAML too

[echo basalt]

huh

[shadow night]

did you install a trojan for fun on your friends computer?

[vast ledge]

yes

[high pewter]

Doesn't that only return Bukkit stuff though? Not something I can give to Jackson?

[vast ledge]

i installed a few of them

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

Me hacking the neighbors wifi

[vast ledge]

it should return the file

if i read correctly

[high pewter]

It returns FileConfiguration, which is a Bukkit thing

[shadow night]

the only thing I installed on my friends computer is a teamspeak 3 server and a linux vm

[vast ledge]

then get the file

[echo basalt]

the file is present on the JavaPlugin class but not exposed

[vast ledge]

from file configuration

[grim hound]

mmm

[shadow night]

and then I told him I overode his windows with linux and made him shit his ass lmfao

[kind hatch]

Should have done it for him. lmao

[high pewter]

There isn't anything under FileConfiguration which returns the file 🤨

[vast ledge]

check the docs

[high pewter]

Ye I'd rather hard-code than use reflection lol, just thought there must be some constant for it somewhere. Oh well

[grim hound]

File file = new File(YourMainInstance.getDataFolder(), "config.yml");

[high pewter]

I have...

[kind hatch]

No

[grim hound]

oh, the default config?

[high pewter]

Yep that's what I have right now, just felt wrong to hard-code "config.yml"

[grim hound]

yeah it's easy, don't worry

[flint coyote]

it's hardcoded in spigot aswell

[high pewter]

Oh lol

[flint coyote]

you could get it via reflection, too

[kind hatch]

You're expected to provide a file in the first place.

File file = new File("file.yml");
FileConfiguration config = YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file);

[grim hound]

    private static File getWithJarCompiledFile(File copyInto, String name) {
        try (InputStream in = Main.class.getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream(name)) {
            Files.copy(in, copyInto.toPath(), StandardCopyOption.REPLACE_EXISTING);
            return copyInto;
        } catch (IOException e) {
            throw new RuntimeException(e);
        }
    }

[flint coyote]

what do you think? "config.yml" won't be there "magically"

[high pewter]

That's only for custom configs isn't it? For "config.yml" you just do getConfig()

[grim hound]

this gives you the file config in the jar file

[kind hatch]

You can use it for the normal config.yml as well, but yes #getConfig() will return the config.yml

[high pewter]

Yes, but they could have like```java
public static final String defaultConfigName = "config.yml"

public FileConfiguration getConfig() {
doSomethingToGetConfigByName(defaultConfigName);
}```Which wouldn't be "hard-coding" it in the same sense I meant

[grim hound]

Wait wait wait

you feel wrong to 'hardcode' config.yml?

[flint coyote]

well then make a constant, too xD Or access the one internally via reflection

[grim ice]

OH

cant i just compile the bytecode to llvm ir?

that should stop casual users from succeeding

[kind hatch]

You might as well just write in a different language at that point.
Please stop asking here.

[high pewter]

It's generally a bad idea to hard-code stuff from another API. For the same reason even though you could just use the value 3 instead of EntityType.ELDER_GUARDIAN since Enum values are literally just numbers, but that's a bad idea because, for example, that value could be updated

[flint coyote]

They will never change that value as it will break ALL servers with plugins

also there isn't a valid reason to do so

[high pewter]

Same with hard-coding the maximum int size. Even though it's always gonna be 0x7fffffff, you use Integer.MAX_VALUE instead

[flint coyote]

Generally you are right

[grim ice]

One question though, why do people dislike obfuscation that much

[flint coyote]

But for this part it really doesn't matter

[kind hatch]

Well, you could just do new File(#getConfig().getName())

[vast ledge]

We dont dislkie it, we dont encrougae malware production/development

[grim ice]

🤦🏻

[vast ledge]

Now stop

[grim ice]

When did i say im making malware

[vast ledge]

fighting

[high pewter]

Ohh that works, thanks!

[vast ledge]

with us

[grim ice]

please, just tell me

when did i ever say im making malware

[vast ledge]

The description yo are giving

is malware

[grim ice]

that was an idea

to encrypt something

[flint coyote]

As Choco already told you
"So long as you're aware that you're coming into a community built exclusively on open source software to ask if there's a way to obfuscate closed source software"

[grim ice]

True

[kind hatch]

> Quote

[flint coyote]

Oh, thx

[grim ice]

but that doesnt explain the unusual hatred for closed source code

[vast ledge]

We dont like it

[flint coyote]

google told me /quote and the other results are wrong aswell

[grim ice]

reason being?

[vast ledge]

Why are you trying to hide code

[kind hatch]

Wack

[grim ice]

so people dont copy it

[vast ledge]

We like open source, that what our entier community isbuilt on

[grim ice]

before you say no one cares about it, they do

[grim ice]

i also like it

[vast ledge]

Spigot is the only reason we can make plugins

Minecraft Is closed source

[grim ice]

does that mean i hate closed source? no

[high pewter]

/quote used to work, but they removed it alongside a few other built-in slash commands when they introduced better Markdown support

[vast ledge]

cries

[flint coyote]

I don't go into a vegan store and ask them what meat they recommend either.

[vast ledge]

🤣

[grim ice]

Very true

[high pewter]

Honestly not against closed-source (though I do love open-source) but I do love myself a good analogy lol

[grim ice]

But im here because the people here might know something about it

its like how a vegan, might also know where to buy meat in a city

[high pewter]

Using Fabsi's analogy, vegans often know a lot about meat too, but you still wouldn't ask them (at least not just because they're a vegan)

[flint coyote]

Also a bunch of people already mentioned that java is not meant to be obfuscated. The best you can do is encrypt your code and decrypt it during runtime with your own class loader.
And yes people can still crack it

[grim ice]

and could recommend you a store

[grim ice]

I clarified that

I know that its never impossible to crack obfuscated software

But all i wanna do, is make it annoying

[kind hatch]

Ok, but installing system services is not the way to go about it.

[flint coyote]

As I already stated - what I just said + the public obfuscators is the best you get

And that's enough to get rid of script kiddies - actual engineers, not so much

[high pewter]

2Hex it's not really a Spigot-specific question anyways. If you're looking for a server with loads of people who might know how to obfuscate Java, why not just a generic Java server lol

[grim ice]

would be great if you have one

[high pewter]

Literally just search "Java Discord server", there's plenty (including one I think is official)

[flint coyote]

I just wanna add that commercial java software is usually delivered as an unencrypted docker image or jar file

[high pewter]

I'm not gonna name a specific one cos I'm not sure what this server is like about advertising (I wish they would just repeat the forum rules in #rules instead of just linking to it...)

[kind hatch]

Linking is fine if you are directing people to a certain server.
Randomly coming in and posting invite links trying to get people to join is against the rules.

[high pewter]

Oh? I did actually just look at the rules out of curiosity and it said no advertising whatsever so now I'm confused lol

[kind hatch]

Well, advertising boils down to intent. Are you encouraging everyone who sees the link to join the server?

[high pewter]

Fair enough haha

[flint coyote]

Hopper you haven't said ? in general yet.

[silent steeple]

How do I get more then 16 lines on a scoreboard

Or do I need to use custom Minecraft server implementation

[steep scroll]

how to code spleef kill credit plugin

[flint coyote]

Probably a clientside limitation - or have you seen it on other servers?

[silent steeple]

No I haven’t

Seen it on other server

(S)

[flint coyote]

Then that's probably because the client only supports 16 lines. You are out of luck

Would require a mod on the clientside

[lilac dagger]

why not create pages that you change every once in a while?

[flint coyote]

if (player.getLocation.getY() <= playAreaHeight) {
 // player died
}
``` And then probably keep track of which block was broken by which player and the time.
If the block was broken more than 1-2 seconds ago I would not let it count for the kill since the player might as well have failed parcour.

[silent steeple]

How can I double check

[flint coyote]

dig deep into forge

[silent steeple]

Forge?

I need vanilla

[flint coyote]

forge is the modding api

They use vanilla code as a base

So there you can check whether it's limited in vanillas code

[onyx fjord]

you cant

[high pewter]

Context?

[silent steeple]

How can u be so sure

[onyx fjord]

because ive seen the games code

[flint coyote]

Just join the gang in #general

[silent steeple]

Where

[onyx fjord]

i dec00mpiled it

[silent steeple]

Ok can I see it

[onyx fjord]

yes you gotta decompile

[silent steeple]

Liar

[onyx fjord]

???

[flint coyote]

???

[high pewter]

My guy, vanilla Minecraft doesn't let you do more than 16 lines, so a server can't force the client to see 16. You could maybe "fake" more by using a texture pack at best

[onyx fjord]

not again

[flint coyote]

xD

[livid dove]

in before its a server with a forced texture pack

[silent steeple]

I am not taking anyone’s word

I want proof

[young knoll]

I thought it was 15

Either way, have you seen a big server with more?

No?

I wonder why

[high pewter]

I think it's 15 scores + 1 line from the title

[flint coyote]

unwritten rule among all big servers! Carlos said so

[livid dove]

That has got to be one of the most moronic things ive ever heard.

You are in the spigot help dev chat. The documentation exists, the wikis exist.

Im ngl, i rarely go off politeness but sod off with that stuff man

Go screw around with it yourself if you dont believe us

[vast ledge]

So you came onto a spigot dev server

asked

us

And when the people who usually have 2-3+ years of expierience

tell give you an anwser

[high pewter]

Actually, I think you can get 17 by using a team-specific slot and adding all players to that team lol

[vast ledge]

you dond believe us

[livid dove]

Doesnt sound real. Give me proof or that didnt happen

[vast ledge]

#help-development message

[livid dove]

I dont believe you

lol

[vast ledge]

#help-development message

[livid dove]

Clearly faked

fr fr

[vast ledge]

You fake

[livid dove]

throw new FakeDevException

[high pewter]

My guy would deobfuscate it then think the deobfuscator was lying to them. Then they'd find a way to use a microscope to look at the bits themself then think their eyes are lying to them and it's an optical illusion

[livid dove]

"hey guys, how do I turn minecraft into call of duty warzone in perfect 4k, the documentation says it doesnt do that, but I dont believe it"

[silent steeple]

I found the method to get more then 16

[high pewter]

tbf I don't think the documentation says it doesn't do that anywhere

[livid dove]

Then honestly and openly I will happily apologise, care to share the documentation so we can all be enlightened?

[high pewter]

Is it the one I mentioned?

[livid dove]

And what is the max with this new method?

[vast ledge]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/max-amount-of-scoreboard-lines.176280/

You can rotate through them

if you want more

but that still only gives a max

[young knoll]

You could technically have more with custom fonts

[livid dove]

I mean im just here waiting to see his method

genuinely curious now

[high pewter]

They're probs only saying it to prove they're right without giving the proof they've been asking of us the whole time lol

[vast ledge]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/scrollboard.24697/

[livid dove]

Nah i never assume that.

[vast ledge]

Idk how he did it

[livid dove]

Anyone can be wrong

even us

So ill wait and see

[vast ledge]

It still scrolls

You can havbe more lines

but you can only display

X amount

[eternal oxide]

Scoreboard size is client side. no length is ever sent to the client

[vast ledge]

so 15

[vast ledge]

yep

[livid dove]

@silent steeple , would you be able to enlighten us please?

[silent steeple]

You can add as many lines as you want to the list

[flint coyote]

the secret ingredient is crime -> hack their computers -> infuse own client

[silent steeple]

But due to client side bullshit it is not rendered

[vast ledge]

but you can only display 15

[livid dove]

....

[flint coyote]

Isn't that what we told you? lol

[vast ledge]

THATS WHAT I JUST SAID

[silent steeple]

But

[livid dove]

I believe this is the moment you go "sorry guys i was wrong"

"This was a learning experience and we can all learn from it humbly and productively"

[silent steeple]

Wrong about what

Anyone can make shit up without backing it

Had to double check 💯

[vast ledge]

Now stop trying to be a smart ass, and just admit, that the people that have been working with this enviroment for alot longer then you probably know what there talking about

[silent steeple]

Environment*

[flint coyote]

oh wow

[vast ledge]

Then why are you hear, ho to the wiki

go*

[silent steeple]

It goes full circle

[vast ledge]

?

[silent steeple]

You teach me one thing I teach you another

[vast ledge]

Ok, but if you dont want to learn, why are you here

[flint coyote]

It was a typo. Just because others were right you don't have to gather hate of the full community

[silent steeple]

Who said I don’t

[livid dove]

Stackz, you were wrong, you came to a channel with very experienced spigot devs.

Yes, we may not know everything all the time. But you dont go "i dont believe you" when 4-5 people all concur with the same reasoning.

Your skeptisism is healthy in terms of academia.
But, i'll risk the temp mute to say what everyone else is probably thinking, and a lesson i hope you take away from this more than anything else.

Respectfully, you were an utter twat about it, and it isnt a good look.

[vast ledge]

Your actions speak for you

[silent steeple]

I ain’t reading allat but sure

[vast ledge]

all that*

[livid dove]

Tl;dr: Stop being a twat

[vast ledge]

Is that the short for tldr

[silent steeple]

You play stonework’s?

[vast ledge]

I though it was different

[silent steeple]

Do you know mr albus

[livid dove]

I havent played stoneworks in a long ass time.

[vast ledge]

The more you know

[livid dove]

Its a toxic cesspool with corrupt ass staff

[silent steeple]

Yeah I got false banned for xray cuz I got lucky

While admins spawn in netherite for their friends

Vpns do tend to work on there tho

[livid dove]

Nah u 100% xrayed.

Their staff are utter morons when it comes to cheat detection. So if they detected you, you must of been doing it so moronically a 5 year old noticed

[silent steeple]

No

I got 2 veins in a row

No change in y level

I’ve been mining in that line for ages

[livid dove]

I don't believe you.... I need proof 😎

[silent steeple]

And they banned me

[livid dove]

And on that notes chaps, see ya later

[silent steeple]

I swear on everything

[silent steeple]

Decompile the game

And see for yourself

[vast ledge]

Cya

[grim hound]

But like, config.yml name updated? If it ever is you can also update your resource.

[high pewter]

Well ye, same logic applies to EntityType.ELDER_GUARDIAN and Integer.MAX_VALUE, but it's just generally good practice as far as I understand for maintainability, readability and even memory consumption

[lilac dagger]

but as far as i've seen integer max value get's replaced by the integer in the code

[high pewter]

I've never seen that lol

[young knoll]

Inlining

Constants may get inlined by the compiler

[lilac dagger]

probably the call for Integer.MAX_INTEGER has no benefit over the actual value

[lilac dagger]

so i guess that's the name for it

i've seen it in c

[high pewter]

Oh right well ye, but I'm not talking about the compiler lol. And I think that's only for small constants, and String is comparitively longer than int

[lilac dagger]

even string is inlined

if it's only a call by a method and you have it as a constant at least

[high pewter]

Honestly that seems really strange to me. Wouldn't it be more memory-efficient to only store it once (as the constant) and share that constant between all usages?

[lilac dagger]

i guess it's due to caching

strings are cached

so it makes no benefit in that case

[high pewter]

But isn't the whole point of caching that you only cache a value once then re-use it?

[lilac dagger]

yes but strings are cached by java

[onyx fjord]

java uses a cool trick to save on memory when using strings

deduplicates them

you can have a billion strings

of the same content

and they will have the same memory address

[high pewter]

That's more aligned with what I'd expect it to do

[fluid river]

String pool it's called

[eternal oxide]

not guaranteed though

[fluid river]

if you are doing new String() then yeah

[spare hazel]

Can i create custom entities by editing spigot's server software code? Like creating an EntityAmogus?

[lilac dagger]

completely custom?

you can make existing entities

but nothing custom without editing on client side too

[spare hazel]

Like its connected to an EntityPlayer but with red armor and custom name&health

[young knoll]

You can do pretty good custom entities with something like model engine

[lilac dagger]

oh yeah, you can use armor stands

^

[spare hazel]

I want something like Hypixel Skyblock. The items are custom but they are mapped into something like a Diamond Sword or Emerald

[lilac dagger]

oh texture packs then

[echo basalt]

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[echo basalt]

Pretty much

[quasi berry]

Can someone with some dev experience explain what's going on here? Relatively new with Java and I have no clue why this is considered static

[spare hazel]

No

[young knoll]

Skyblock just identifies their items with an NBT tag

Which on modern versions is just

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[echo basalt]

Syndicates.getConfig is being called like a static method

You want to pass around an instance of Syndicates, ideally through DI so you can call your getConfig on the variable instead of on the "class"

Think of static methods / variables as "belonging to the class" and everything else as "belonging to the object"

[spare hazel]

Someone told me that hypixel doesnt have any plugins. Its just extremly modified 1.7.10 bukkit

[echo basalt]

They have plugins

But they run on a really modified 1.7.10 fork where they wrote their own 1.8 patches

And have a lot of utility stuff

They have dev blogs explaining some of this

But they do run plugins, the codebase would be massive otherwise

[spare hazel]

Link? Please

[echo basalt]

https://hypixel.net/threads/dev-blog-6-keeping-up-with-the-masses.2251554/ is the main one I like to link

But there's a lot of hypixel info I know about just from my time speaking to devs during my interviews

So I don't have sources for everything because some of it was personally told to me

[waxen jackal]

Shading Issues With Intellij

[lilac dagger]

I'm already doing most of it

I always like to reuse resources

[young knoll]

Why did they hack 1.8 into a 1.7 server instead of just using 1.8

[brisk estuary]

Does anybody know if I it is possible to mock bedrock players?

[echo basalt]

Because they already patched it beyond belief

and it was cheaper to just patch their own 1.8 additions

Than to re-patch their entire fork

[young knoll]

I see

[unborn sable]

Is there still a way to create items with NBT data so using them automatically applies the data? Like a sheep spawn egg always spawning pink ones

[young knoll]

You’d have to use NMS

Or some fancy magic with the interact event and the creature spawn event

[unborn sable]

I still can’t get NMS working lol

[young knoll]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[quaint mantle]

can blocks have custom model data

[eternal oxide]

if they have a tilestate

[young knoll]

No

Custom model data is only for items

[eternal oxide]

oh right, my bad

I was thinking pdc. Its late

[primal goblet]

i wanna make 1vs1 game, and it might be the avg players will 50.. so i cannot duplicate so much maps, and i'm lazy to make a docker or anything else to handle servers automatic..
so everyone goes in game he will be hidden at the other players, but the player can set a fire (using flint and steel) so how can i make this in packets, i need to like send a packet that puts a flint and steel to the players (only ingame).
that's the first code but have some bugs like the flint doesn't make damage to the players

Location location = e.getBlockPlaced().getLocation();
            PacketPlayOutBlockChange packet = new PacketPlayOutBlockChange(
                    ((CraftWorld) e.getPlayer().getWorld()).getHandle(),
                    new BlockPosition(
                            location.getBlockX(), location.getBlockY(), location.getBlockZ()));
packet.block = Block.getById(51).getBlockData();
((CraftPlayer) player).getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(packet);
``` so what should i do? any advices?

[sullen marlin]

Why are you using a packet for this

also of course a client side fire won’t damage players

[primal goblet]

cuz the same map can be more than one game in it, so the other players are hidden
that means i only see the other player i should fight with

i saw some servers do this

and ig this will be better than i make a huge amount of servers.

[young knoll]

Why not just clone the map a bunch

In the same world

[primal goblet]

i tried before the game was working in this system, but it uses a lot of memory

[flint coyote]

how would that use a lot of memory? It's only one world

[primal goblet]

uhh i made a world for each map

[flint coyote]

Yeah that's why. Use one world and paste your "arena" multiple times

At different coordinates of course

[primal goblet]

uhm i did this before and i don't like it how it gone

[sullen marlin]

well no one makes client side games

[flint coyote]

It makes a lot of things easier though

[sullen marlin]

because nothing will work without you recreating it

[primal goblet]

only the flint and steel will be on client side using packets

other things will be as normal

[sullen marlin]

for starters use sendBlockChange

[primal goblet]

do you mean: player#sendBlockChange?

[sullen marlin]

yes

[flint coyote]

Are there bows involved? Snowballs? Any projectiles? Those are blocked by invisible players aswell

[primal goblet]

only the flint and steel so that's why i wanna use packets for this

[flint coyote]

Also drops can be picked up by everyone

[primal goblet]

ik that, and the players will not drop any item i disabled that

[flint coyote]

I wonder what minigame only requires a flint and steel but if that's the only thing then sendBlockChange is the way to go.
Just keep in mind, that you also have to send packets (another block change) to all players to "extinguish" the fire. And only if someone interacted with the top side of the burning block

[primal goblet]

uhmm sendBlockChange(Location arg0, Material arg1, byte arg2) the location for the block location, and the material for the block, but the byte for the block's data??

[sullen marlin]

download the javadocs or source lol

but yes

also 1.8

[primal goblet]

yeah got it

[young knoll]

We need some kind of outdated emote

Md plz

[primal goblet]

yeah i'll do that

[sullen marlin]

propsoe one

[primal goblet]

thank you guys

[nimble oxide]

package com.marqus.hytteminer.Listeners;

import com.marqus.hytteminer.HytteMiner;
import org.bukkit.ChatColor;
import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
import org.bukkit.event.EventHandler;
import org.bukkit.event.Listener;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerJoinEvent;

public class DbStatementListener implements Listener {

    @EventHandler
    public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent e) {
        Player player = e.getPlayer();
        if(player.hasPermission(HytteMiner.getInstance().getConfig().getString("admin_perm"))) {
            if(!(HytteMiner.getInstance().dbStatement)) {
                player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&8[ &2&lHYTTE &f&lMINER &8]"));
                player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', " &c&oDer blev ikke tilsluttet en database, sørg for at oplysningerne i config.yml filen er korrekte!"));
            }
        }
    }


}
``` Its meant to sent every admin an message when they join that the database isnt connected, but I get no messages? and I am OP.

no errors ^^

[lost matrix]

Add debug messages and check which condition fails

[nimble oxide]

alright, just a sout?

[lost matrix]

Also: Is your listener registered?

[young knoll]

Man idk what would make a good outdated emote

[nimble oxide]

ohh

[lost matrix]

That would be a classic

[nimble oxide]

I forgot that HAHAHAHa

that is the classic one I did

im an idiot

jeez

[lilac meteor]

hey guys, I was making a custom plugin for some friends and I that is a simple replanting plugin with the hope of making it mesh with MCmmo better for 1.20.1
the issue im running into is that I am checking the age of the crop before replanting because we want to only replant when its fully grown.
seemingly at random, the age from using the Agebable.getAge() function returns 0 despite the f3 menu showing that the age of each crop is fully grown

is there a race condition that Im not aware of that could be causing this?

I dont know how waiting longer would help... but ill try

but if the age is maxed several ticks before the break event, that shouldnt ever be a problem

unless bonemealing the crop is handled weird

is there a better way of waiting other than Thread.sleep() or using the sheduler?

yeah I was looking into that last night cuz I was getting errors even trying to use Threading

but is there a simpler way just to wait or do I have to use the scheduler

:(

[sullen marlin]

?nocode

[undone axle]

It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.

[lilac meteor]

@EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST)
    public void BlockBreakHandler(BlockBreakEvent event) {

        Player actor = event.getPlayer();

        //Allow user to ignore when pressing shift
        if (actor.isSneaking()) { util.debugMessage("Player sneaking, handler ignored"); return; }

        //If block is not a crop, ignore
        Block blockBroken = event.getBlock();
        BlockData blockData = blockBroken.getBlockData();
        if (!(blockData instanceof Ageable)) { util.debugMessage("Block is not a crop type"); return; }

        //Complete the final checks of when this handler will control the event
        Ageable targetCrop = (Ageable) blockData;
        int currentAge = targetCrop.getAge();
        int maxAge = targetCrop.getMaximumAge();
        if (currentAge < maxAge) { util.debugMessage("Crop was too young " + currentAge + "/" + maxAge); return; }

        //...Other stuff, doesnt matter rn
}

and yes, I tried changing the priority

[young knoll]

Are you using the correct ageable

[lilac meteor]

import org.bukkit.block.data.Ageable;

[lilac meteor]

it works like half the time, then at random the age reported is 0

[sullen marlin]

code seems fine, are you running any other plugins on the server

what does /version say

[lilac meteor]

no, am running new server specifically for dev debug, then once this was working we were gonnuh try it with other plugins

[lilac meteor]

I cant send files rn
CraftBukkit version 3836-Spigot-3374045-08ec344 (MC: 1.20.1) (Implementing API version 1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)

[sullen marlin]

I’d open a bug report, but this sounds like a very surprising bug so I assume something else is going on and it won’t be reproduceable

Maybe some other part of your plugin is affecting it

[lilac meteor]

thats all there is. I register the handler in onEnable, print to the console that the plugin is running, and thats all the code running at the start of that handler

the only other function in that handler class is just a foreach to drop all items in an ItemStack collection

can you point me in the right direction to doing this? I just dont entirely understand how to create a Runnable

I just want to try this and see what happens

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[sullen marlin]

Don't see how it would help given the block would be destroyed after the event

[young knoll]

You should only have to delay the replanting

[lilac meteor]

well

im actually cancelling the event after that part, then just resetting the age of the block to 0

[young knoll]

Hmm can’t say I ever tried it that way

But I don’t see why it wouldn’t work

[lilac meteor]

@EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST)
    public void BlockBreakHandler(BlockBreakEvent event) {

        Player actor = event.getPlayer();

        //Allow user to ignore when pressing shift
        if (actor.isSneaking()) { util.debugMessage("Player sneaking, handler ignored"); return; }

        //If block is not a crop, ignore
        Block blockBroken = event.getBlock();
        BlockData blockData = blockBroken.getBlockData();
        if (!(blockData instanceof Ageable)) { util.debugMessage("Block is not a crop type"); return; }

        //Complete the final checks of when this handler will control the event
        Ageable targetCrop = (Ageable) blockData;
        int currentAge = targetCrop.getAge();
        int maxAge = targetCrop.getMaximumAge();
        if (currentAge < maxAge) { util.debugMessage("Crop was too young " + currentAge + "/" + maxAge); return; }

        //Cancel event as to prevent the block breaking after replanting
        event.setCancelled(true);

        //Drop the items that would normally drop
        dropAllItems(blockBroken.getDrops(), blockBroken.getLocation(), blockBroken.getWorld());

        //"Replant" the crop, really just setting the age back to 0 to look like
        Ageable newBlock = (Ageable) blockData;
        newBlock.setAge(0);
        blockBroken.setBlockData(newBlock);
    }

heres the whole handler if that changes anything

[eternal oxide]

block break is an odd event, it fires after the change and undoes the break if cancelled

[sullen marlin]

No I don't think it does

[eternal oxide]

Chatting with Choco a while back he said it did

[sullen marlin]

Also wouldn't explain the issue being "random"

[eternal oxide]

if you delay setting the age

I wasn;t listening to the convo so didn;t see a random part 😦

[lilac meteor]

I just noticed im casting into an Ageable again when setting the blockData. Im going to see if reusing the original targetCrop changes anything

[lilac meteor]

also f3 menu shows the age being non-zero

[sullen marlin]

Isn't the issue you getting block was too young when you shouldn't

Code after that won't affect it

[lilac meteor]

im just eliminating weird behavior

nope bugged on a freshly planted potato :/

shouldnt say worked

[sullen marlin]

If it's freshly planted the age will be 0

[lilac meteor]

well freshly planted, bone mealed to age 7 then broken

was more meaning that the ""replanting" couldnt have affected it even if that may have been the issue

[young knoll]

Are you sure you aren’t somehow breaking it twice

Since crops break very quickly

[lilac meteor]

let me try setting the age to 1 and see if it reports back a 1

[sullen marlin]

That could be it

Would explain it being "random"

[lilac meteor]

hm well that seems to be it

how do I prevent that

[inner mulch]

Is there any way that i can change a players name to a color gradient?

[lunar forge]

Yes.

[inner mulch]

pls tell me more, i ve been searching all day on the internet for help

[lunar forge]

Search how RGB colours work and how to change the player name.

[inner mulch]

i did

it wasnt helpful tho

[lunar forge]

Use ChatGPT

[inner mulch]

are you trolling me :(

[lilac meteor]

https://rgb.birdflop.com/

[inner mulch]

yes, but how do i change the playername AND NAMETAG

okay

[lilac meteor]

how do you think I could prevent this? setting the age to 1, thats what shows up when it doesnt work, so this is definitely the problem

[young knoll]

You could always go with the replanting one tick later

Or cancel all subsequent break events on that position for a few ticks

[inner mulch]

i have never used packets, are you experienced with using packets?

so they are bad?

[lilac meteor]

but either way I need to basically wait a tick or two... I was not looking forward to using the scheduler

[inner mulch]

ok