help-development

[rare sedge]

The more I read what little there is on JIRA, the more convinced I am that I'm correct and this should be working

[rare sedge]

It seems @lone jacinth is the SME on this, curious what they think.

[bleak hemlock]

Transferring NBT via "/data" deleting/skipping information?

[grave lagoon]

prevent pdc item from being put in container

[lone jacinth]

Should work the way you have it. It should first calls the should method, then generates vanilla (if true was return) and after that calls the generate method regardless if you have return true or false.
Will look at it if something broke.

[rare sedge]

Great to know that I did interpret the javadocs correctly

[atomic swift]

why would i get this java.io.IOException: Permission denied while using this backupFile.createNewFile();

[rare sedge]

Does the JVM have permission to write?

[vast ledge]

If you have no permission

in the working directory

[atomic swift]

idk

houw would i get permission

[vast ledge]

idk

[rare sedge]

Sounds like a super solid opportunity to learn about filesystem permissions

[atomic swift]

agreed

[vast ledge]

Permissions

[wet breach]

The permission of the jvm is dependent on the user that launched the java process

So if said user doesnt have perms for the directory in question then the jvm wont either.

[atomic swift]

liek the panel user or the process that the jvm is on

were using bloom as our host

[wet breach]

Dont know them and dont use panels as this is one of the reasons of many

All i can tell you is that whatever user launched the java process that is the perme the java process has

[atomic swift]

but wouldnt the jvm need permission to let plugins save configs?

[wet breach]

Sure, doesnt change that the jvm inherits the perms of the user

[grizzled oasis]

Hi something wrong is with this code, it doesn't take the deepslate biome any tries I had, it didn't work any advice?
https://paste.md-5.net/dibazawubo.cs

another thing someone knows a mod for displaying blocks by the given coordinate a sort of "xray" but i need to provide my coordinate

[rare sedge]

Make sure to set it as Java code so it gets Java formatting

[grizzled oasis]

i can't it autodetecs

[rare sedge]

Well, I’m looking at this code and frankly I don’t understand what you’re trying to do here

[grizzled oasis]

checking the event to chunkload and then detecs if in the chunks there are specific blocks

[rare sedge]

Where is this blocks array coming from?

[grizzled oasis]

i didn't write it but its not important

the problem is always in my math about the loop on y not taking negatives

[rare sedge]

Also, you’re assuming the bottom of the chunk is at 0. It isn’t, use the methods to get the top and bottom of the chunks.

[grizzled oasis]

and so deep state is not calculated

[grizzled oasis]

and what it is?

[quaint mantle]

Why does PrepareAnvilEvent get fired 3 times?? lmao

[rare sedge]

public Block containBlock(Chunk chunk) {
    for (int x = 0; x < 16; x++) {
        for (int y = chunk.getWorld().getMinHeight(); y < chunk.getWorld().getMaxHeight(); y++) {
            for (int z = 0; z < 16; z++) {
                if (blocks.contains(chunk.getBlock(x,y,z).getType())) {
                    return chunk.getBlock(x, y, z);
                }
            }
        }
    }
    return null;
}

[grizzled oasis]

ok thanks

[rare sedge]

You should prioritize vertical scanning so the method returns faster

Horizontal slices are going to be mostly homogeneous

[lone jacinth]

@rare sedge It's a bug, will make a PR to fix it.

[pure dagger]

.

[smoky anchor]

What do you mean by "store"
As in save the teams to disk ?

[pure dagger]

in code, i mean i need to make these teams but i dont know how, in some hashmap or what

[cerulean igloo]

So this is where all the coders end up.

It has been a long time since I have taught myself Java, is there a simple minecraft plugin project I could make to try and start learning again?

[warm mica]

Hello world when right clicking on a dirt block

[icy beacon]

it might be out of bounds

[zealous osprey]

Your strings array might be null?

[icy beacon]

if strings only has 1 element, strings[1] must throw ArrayIndexOutOfBounds or smth

[pseudo hazel]

whats in string

[icy beacon]

it's not null

[pseudo hazel]

just print the whole thing

[icy beacon]

it's just not a thing

show the array in question

yeah

[smoky anchor]

if strings has one element, then you would access that element with strings[0]

so yes

[icy beacon]

i'm saying exactly that

how did you manage to make it null

[pseudo hazel]

well string[1] gives an exception

[icy beacon]

it must throw out of bounds

[pseudo hazel]

it should be a crash

print the whole array

[smoky anchor]

sout Arrays.toString(array)

[icy beacon]

String[] strings = new String[] { "option1" };
String a = strings[0]; // option1
String b = strings[1]; // ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException

[pseudo hazel]

or the chad way "" + strings

[smoky anchor]

wait that works ?
Would that not do String[L something ?

[pseudo hazel]

checking if string[1] is not a thing

thats not how arrays work

[icy beacon]

no. it's not null, it doesn't even exist

it must throw aioobe

[pseudo hazel]

no since the + just calls .toString or whatever

[icy beacon]

tell us what you are trying to do

this seems like

?xy

[undone axle]

http://xyproblem.info/

[pseudo hazel]

check the length of the array

[icy beacon]

if (strings.length == 2)

[pseudo hazel]

and fucking print the array

[pseudo hazel]

well all I know is that it works for me

[icy beacon]

different java versions do differently perhaps?

[pseudo hazel]

maybe

im using 17

[smoky anchor]

should not be the case

[pseudo hazel]

or im misremembering

[icy beacon]

welp just use whatever's most convenient for you

[pseudo hazel]

im not at my pc

[icy beacon]

maybe you had a list

[pseudo hazel]

yes perhaps

[smoky anchor]

Must have been a list

since I doubt the toString would change between versions

[pseudo hazel]

yes sure im not dying on this hill xD

[smoky anchor]

lol :D

[humble lynx]

I'm creating an 'editor' mode for a plugin I'm making. Is it bad practice that I'm using PDC to check if the player is in editor mode to prevent them from altering any inventories? (Such as hotbar, dropping items, transferring to other inventories, etc).

[terse pumice]

How does one make a plugin work on both 1.16 and 1.18, I am aware that java compile versions are different so how would I go about compiling it in a way that suits both in one jar?

[pseudo hazel]

no thats a good way I think

[pseudo hazel]

idk if you can, easiest is probably making 2 jar files

[terse pumice]

You can also compare the inventories:
event.getClickedInventory().equals(yourInventory)

[quaint mantle]

You can store editor data on inventory's holder

[humble lynx]

isn't inventoryholder in this case the player?

or do you mean if it was a GUI i could store it in there also

[terse pumice]

There are a fair few plugins out there that offer 1.16+ support through one jar, I'm sure there's some way I just haven't got a clue personally aha

[humble lynx]

actually would be pretty handy to store it in the GUI

[quaint mantle]

Create data class, then implement InventoryHolder.

[pseudo hazel]

well you need to atleast use the highest of the java 2 versions obviously but apart from that idk either

[smoky anchor]

the older java no ?
Since you can load jars from old java on new java but you can't load new java jars on old java.

[pseudo hazel]

oh I thought you need the newer version to run the game on 1.18

[smoky anchor]

yes, but if you want the plugin to run on older versions as well, you need to compile it on that older java version

But I am not sure about this one, I don't support older versions or multiple

[tacit wing]

Hey, I want to create Bungeecord plugins again, where can I find the best docs ?

[inner mulch]

Is there a way to detect the correct inventory for an inventoryclickevent, without event.getview.gettitle.equals...

[smoky anchor]

yes

[inner mulch]

which one?

[smoky anchor]

I believe ppl here normally link this one when such question arises
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[inner mulch]

ok

[cerulean igloo]

I'll do it

[livid dove]

Yeah we used this as the base of our menu abstracts for our library

[pseudo hazel]

yeah same, though heavily altered because I wanted more features

[prisma sedge]

        Random random = new Random();
        World world = center.getWorld();
        Material material = world.getBlockAt(center).getType();
        FallingBlock fallingBlock = world.spawnFallingBlock(center, new MaterialData(material));

        double velocityX = (random.nextDouble() - 0.5) * 0.5;
        double velocityY = random.nextDouble() * 0.5 + 0.5;
        double velocityZ = (random.nextDouble() - 0.5) * 0.5;

        fallingBlock.setVelocity(new Vector(velocityX, velocityY, velocityZ));
    }``` anybody able to help me out with this? Not sure why it isn't working

[smoky anchor]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[prisma sedge]

Sure let me describe it to you, I execute the function, and nothing happens

no stack trace

nothing.

there wasn't anything to explain

[smoky anchor]

new MaterialData()
Seems fishy

[somber scarab]

im so close to publishing my first plugin

[somber scarab]

@noble lantern

@wet breach

[prisma sedge]

Sure I'll try something else

[noble lantern]

whats up

[somber scarab]

look at me ma

im doin it

[noble lantern]

What plugin?

[somber scarab]

Floor is Lava

remember?

[terse pumice]

Anyone else know anything about this?

[somber scarab]

all good. When you see how awesome it is you wont forget it

[smoky anchor]

material.createBlockData()

you can't "delete" messages from chat
Just send a bunch of empty lines before your actual message

[fast merlin]

not just printed lines but actually deletes from chat

[smoky anchor]

well, if you achieve that, show me
I am really curious
Might be something I do not know about.

[terse pumice]

likewise ^^

[hazy siren]

Hey so uhh, weird question but I only have Java knowledge outside of Spigot and I don't want to learn the Spigot API, so I was going to make a Skript to Java converter, it would bundle the scripts in and remove the unnecessary event listeners (and I might use SQL instead of RAM to improve variable performance) to improve performance, and I was wondering if I'd be able to sell my resource on Spigot if I did that.

[smoky anchor]

Like I do know mojank added some delete chat message packets, but that is restricted to player messages only I think and the messages are still visible for like 3 seconds

[fast merlin]

i believe the spigot fork was 1.7.10 to 1.8.9

[prisma sedge]

Please don't make skript to java converter 😦

[hazy siren]

why not?

[prisma sedge]

well multiple reasons honestly

I can imagine upkeep would be Impossible

[hazy siren]

it would

[prisma sedge]

uh, let me think of another reason

[hazy siren]

basically it would go into the Skript SRC and remove unnecessary event listeners and that means it wouldn't be using a custom SRC but rather another thing, and therefore also improve performance

and it would bundle the script in

[prisma sedge]

I mean yeah that would help, but you also have to consider the fact that skript is just too high level

It would be damn near compiling human speech into byte code

let alone skript addons

[smoky anchor]

wait so...
you want to convert skript "code" to java code
and also you want to remove event listeners ?
That's like 95% of plugin development
Anyways, you would still need to know the spigot API to know what to call when skript says "if player has item"

unless I am not understanding

[hazy siren]

yeah but I'd research that

I don't wanna research it every time

or remember

[prisma sedge]

Oh also, that already exists

I mean believe it or not, some insane human being did it

[hazy siren]

Byteskript?

that compiles to jvm but not mc plugins

[prisma sedge]

nah they're multiple

[pseudo hazel]

you would need to use the spigot api to do like most of that so your point is kinda invalid

[prisma sedge]

why would you need spigot in specific?

[hazy siren]

yeah but what im saying is that i'd research them once, but i dont wanna bother researching like 999 times

[pseudo hazel]

well thats why you have a brain that can hopefully retain information

[hazy siren]

i mean skript was a bukkit plugin but when bensku forked it I'm not sure if he made it spigot

[smoky anchor]

I find it kinda funny how your actual question was ignored

[hazy siren]

and I have bad memory

i mean true

[prisma sedge]

wait no way skript is spigot only

[hazy siren]

this is kinda turning into a debate

[prisma sedge]

I've used it on paper a lot

[hazy siren]

im not sure

no

paper

[pseudo hazel]

and looking up stuff is like half the job anyways

[hazy siren]

is a fork

of spigot

[prisma sedge]

Oh yeah, forgot about that

Oh yeah paper is making themselfs a fork of bukkit instead

[hazy siren]

why

nooooo

[prisma sedge]

I'm imagining for performance

[hazy siren]

my spigot plugins :c

or rather the ones i bought

[pseudo hazel]

since when are they doing that

[prisma sedge]

A staff member said that in their discord

Not sure when they started

[hazy siren]

yeah but i still dont want to do it, I learnt a bunch of programming languages already and my brain cant remember more

[smoky anchor]

wait that would mean no more ppl coming here with paper related issues

[hazy siren]

true

ive seen so many forum posts

just about paper

[prisma sedge]

and paper being even faster

[hazy siren]

true

[prisma sedge]

all is well

[pseudo hazel]

then just forget about those

[hazy siren]

i cant

i use a bunch of them

like

all teh time

because when i wanna do diff things

i use different ones

like for example if theres a library thats only on one

i can use that one

[smoky anchor]

paper is awful
they "fix" vanilla "bugs" with no option to enable them again
fucking TNT duping, which is still intentionally enabled was "fixed" by them.
Thank you for coming to my rant

[hazy siren]

wait what

tnt duping

doesnt exist

[pseudo hazel]

epic rant

[hazy siren]

on paper?

[pseudo hazel]

not on paper

[hazy siren]

bruhhhh

[pseudo hazel]

cuz they patched it

[prisma sedge]

paper is also faster, I think it's worth the sacrafise

[hazy siren]

bruhhhhhhhhhh

[smoky anchor]

if you're not a technical player, sure

[hazy siren]

can samwan pwease answer my owiginaw question

[prisma sedge]

even if it's a VERY little amount

[prisma sedge]

Do it, then you can cry yourself to sleep for the next atleast 5 years.

[smoky anchor]

Why do you think you would not be able to sell it ?

[hazy siren]

idk

[pseudo hazel]

you can

[hazy siren]

I feel like Spigot might like ban me or something

[smoky anchor]

for what

[pseudo hazel]

why

[prisma sedge]

They probably shout

[hazy siren]

idk

[prisma sedge]

should

that's a nasty thing to do

[hazy siren]

how is it nasty

[smoky anchor]

like.. read the terms and whatever

[hazy siren]

true

[grim ice]

in my opinion

[prisma sedge]

Bro converting skript to a .jar file is horrendous

[grim ice]

a bug is a bug

so them removing it is justified

just make a creeper and sand farm lmao

[hazy siren]

actually BUD (block update detection) switches arent bugs anymore

if you didnt know

but anyway we're going off topic

I'm going to make it

[grim ice]

so tnt duping isnt a bug? nah

[hazy siren]

should i share it

or keep it private

[prisma sedge]

        Random random = new Random();
        World world = center.getWorld();
        Material material = world.getBlockAt(center).getType();

        FallingBlock fallingBlock = world.spawnFallingBlock(center, material.createBlockData());

        double velocityX = (random.nextDouble() - 0.5) * 0.5;
        double velocityY = random.nextDouble() * 0.5 + 0.5;
        double velocityZ = (random.nextDouble() - 0.5) * 0.5;

        fallingBlock.setVelocity(new Vector(velocityX, velocityY, velocityZ));
    }``` Also this still doesn't work. I thought that you were right but I guess not

[pseudo hazel]

no you keep it to yourself forever

[grim ice]

share what

[hazy siren]

cuz if I share it I think everyone will optimize it but it would also pose problems

[grim ice]

share what??

[hazy siren]

skript to java converter

[pseudo hazel]

I mean

[smoky anchor]

I get that, but they have the ability to provite the server owner the option to opt out of the "bug fix"
And they choose not to, that is my problem

[grim ice]

do it

[pseudo hazel]

first just make it

[hazy siren]

ive been planning to make it for like yaers

[grim ice]

actually dont

[pseudo hazel]

then make it

[grim ice]

its gonna be annoying

[prisma sedge]

Didn't work sadly

[smoky anchor]

are you calling it on the correct coordinates ?

also, doesn't Location have getBlock or something ?

[prisma sedge]

It would throw an exception if it was

        World world = startBlock.getWorld();
        Vector direction = endBlock.toVector().subtract(startBlock.toVector());
        int points = 50; // Number of points to create the line

        new BukkitRunnable() {
            int currentPoint = 0;

            @Override
            public void run() {
                if (currentPoint >= points) {
                    startBlock.getWorld().playSound(endBlock, Sound.BLOCK_GLASS_BREAK,1.0f, 1.0f);
                    throwBlockUpwards(endBlock);
                    this.cancel();
                    return;
                }

                Vector pointVector = startBlock.toVector().add(direction.clone().multiply(currentPoint / (double) points));
                Location pointLocation = new Location(world, pointVector.getX(), pointVector.getY(), pointVector.getZ());
                world.spawnParticle(Particle.CLOUD, pointLocation, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1);

                currentPoint++;
            }
        }.runTaskTimer(Main.getInstance(), 0L, 1L);``` I'm using it here

It's playing the sound at the locations

so the function is being ran, but none the less nothing is occuring

[smoky anchor]

ok, try to make like a temporary command or something and run the function on a block you know exists

[prisma sedge]

I did, it works like it draws lines towards blocks it's going to fling upwards

so it draws the line to the block, plays the sound at the block

but doesn't throw the block in the air

[smoky anchor]

Ye, test that method only

[prisma sedge]

Yeah I am

[smoky anchor]

since this looks correct

[prisma sedge]

I've confirmed is is indeed something wrong with the function itself.

I just have no idea what it is

It could be something with the Y velocity since it's not moving?

[smoky anchor]

try to spawn the block 1 block higher and give it velocity of 0, 1, 0

might be solidifying before it gets the chance to move?

[buoyant viper]

true, paper shoots themselves in the foot a little

provide higher performance servers at the cost of possibly not having the audience that could benefit the most (hardcore tech players) using it

[tender shard]

yeah I also find this very stupid

[prisma sedge]

Believe it or not, haven't once had an issue

[buoyant viper]

i had an issue w simple rail duping my friend was using on our SMP :v didnt actually look for a config to toggle it but.. switched back to spigot anyway for it

[prisma sedge]

that's because they saw it as a glitch and patched it.

[buoyant viper]

yes

im not saying Paper is bad software

like at all

[prisma sedge]

Found out why, It's because it doesnt work on ice in specific.

[buoyant viper]

just that the group that could potentially benefit the most by using it cant/wont use it BECAUSE of how it improves performance

[prisma sedge]

oh

[tender shard]

disabling duplication stuff isn't really improving performance

[smoky anchor]

hmmm... could be that the ice is just not being rendered ?
Try doing it with F3+B and see if you can.. see the entity outline

[prisma sedge]

it's just patching a glitch

[prisma sedge]

It's 3 am I'm all good with it not working on ice for now

it also works on water

which is interesting looking

[smoky anchor]

dafuq, water does not have a model for falling sand
I am like sure of this

[buoyant viper]

ehh, it could still deter hardcore players from using it

[prisma sedge]

Oh it doesn't but you can do it anyways

it's kind of just water apearing all over the place

[smoky anchor]

can you post a picture

?img

[undone axle]

Not verified? Upload screenshots here: https://prnt.sc/

[tender shard]

yes, I think it's highly stupid to fix gameplay stuff like this in the default settings, even worse if it's not possible to disable it at all

we also run spigot instead of paper for reasons like this

[prisma sedge]

wait I was wrong again, it doesn't work on solid blocks.

Like it works on water, snow, and grass

but not blocks.

[tender shard]

it should just be configurable with default being vanilla behaviour, and everything'd be fine

[eternal night]

for hardcore players, that is a sensible default yes

[prisma sedge]

                if (!blockLocation.getBlock().isBuildable()) {
                    drawLineBetweenBlocks(center, blockLocation);
                }
            }``` Oh nevermind.

[smoky anchor]

aight, something is wrong with your client
what you're saying is literally not possible
Unless you have some other piece of code that like deletes either the data from the entity or just despawns it

[eternal night]

is this a sensible default for the normal vanilla server ? probs not

[prisma sedge]

with that masterfully made piece of code

It is possible.

[eternal night]

Given that you'd have to decide "what exploit to disable by default and which to not disable by default"

[prisma sedge]

if the block is and IS NOT buildable

then it works.

[smoky anchor]

i hate you

[buoyant viper]

honestly im okay with every "fix" being enabled by default, just let it all be toggleable to return vanilla functionality

[smoky anchor]

/s ofc

[eternal night]

I mean most should honestly

the only thing is sand that comes to mind

[prisma sedge]

that's my bad.

[smoky anchor]

yeah
"I tested the function"

[prisma sedge]

it's funny because I actually did, that code is running

I was running that code, and that code was causing this

It works beutifully now.

[buoyant viper]

interesting @eternal night

[tender shard]

what about breaking bedrock

[buoyant viper]

from the looks of that PR it doesnt seem bug-prone but i sorta want to see if it can get bugged

[eternal night]

has a config option ?

[eternal night]

I mean, give it a go

if you find a bug, shoot it at me 😅

[buoyant viper]

will as soon as i figure out how to actually get a dev env for paper

reading Contribution wiki page rn

[tender shard]

where? the "unsupported option" that's documented nowhere and that you can only find by looking through the github code?

[eternal night]

git clone [e-mail]:papermc/paper.git
cd paper
./gradlew applyPatches
./gradlew runDev

there

[buoyant viper]

pretty sure its in paper-global.yml isnt it

[tender shard]

well it's in unsupported settings, hence I guess it's unsupported, hence not considered an actual usable setting

[eternal night]

https://docs.papermc.io/paper/reference/global-configuration#allow-permanent-block-break-exploits

[tender shard]

why is it called unsupported-settings? is it supported to disable it, or not

[eternal night]

because we don't support you if enabling that option does not fix it for you

[livid dove]

THE SACRED JEDI TEXTS

[buoyant viper]

eh, dont think ill need runDev, just looking at source code lol

[eternal night]

ah xD

then yea, just applyPatches

[buoyant viper]

apply patches will generate a decompiled env right?

[eternal night]

yea

[buoyant viper]

pog

[livid dove]

I have always wondered why paper and spigot haven't done the funni tango and spent the 20 billions years it'd take to resolve all the emergency conflicts and just. Yknow, merged lol

*merge conflicts

[buoyant viper]

different priorities

and also Paper is basically what u just described

Spigot + Paper patches = Paper

[livid dove]

Sounds like an excuse to of implemented github workflow with branches, not split up lol

[buoyant viper]

well Spigot was on github

until the

?dmca

[undone axle]

An unofficial explanation of the DMCA can be found here: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/unofficial-explanation-about-the-dmca/

[eternal night]

who the fuck would have two projects with different goals on the same github project but on different branches

[livid dove]

I just hate mom and dad fighting 😭

[eternal night]

you'd still have to fix merge conflicts then

[buoyant viper]

xdd

[livid dove]

See people always say priorities but, like do either team actually have a mission statement lol

[eternal night]

I mean

[buoyant viper]

Papers priority is performance and fixing exploits

Spigots priority is performance and maintaining the Bukkit API

[eternal night]

Given how extreme some of papers changes are, and what downsides come wwith those, spigot just isn't the place for it

[livid dove]

Now I have to ask what does that even mean? Maintaining the bukkit api.

I.e. surely paper does that too or else it erm... wouldn't work lol

[buoyant viper]

i do, however, pride myself in making Paper undo a patch on their side, for one API method.

[eternal night]

which patch was that

[buoyant viper]

like setMaxPlayers in Server

[eternal night]

or did you just push that to spigot

[buoyant viper]

LOL

[eternal night]

lmao

[buoyant viper]

i pushed it to Spigot yeah

along with setMotd

[eternal night]

noice

[buoyant viper]

and then Paper clapped back with setMotd(Component)

[eternal night]

Yea, i mean it is a dagnerous game for us to maintain compat

[buoyant viper]

ill have to wait for Choco to do setMotd(BaseComponent)

[eternal night]

infinite components

[buoyant viper]

xddd

yeah and then paper will @Deprecate setMotd(BaseComponent)

[eternal night]

at least all the spigot stuff is tucked away into the Spigot types

I mean, we deperecate all of bungee chat

I think wwe have an automated tool for that

[buoyant viper]

double edged sword, if some lunatic ran pure CraftBukkit

also papers applyPatches just full froze my PC for a solid second

[livid dove]

Lmao
See this is what I mean. We say different priorities but like, to this day I struggle to see the big things that armt just fundamentally better on one or the other. Just seems like if you pineapple pen'd them and got em to set up a good communication ethic, would be amazing all around

[eternal night]

Yea decompiling takes a lot

[buoyant viper]

the Spigot CLA also scares people away from contributing to the upstream

@ Raziel

[livid dove]

Lmao

[eternal night]

also like, I don't think the paper team agrees with the spigot backwards compatibility policy etc

[livid dove]

E.g I know it's a meme at this point but inventory.getHolder(boolean) is god tier 🙏

[eternal night]

which is the reason they are working towards the soft spoon

[buoyant viper]

to be fair neither do some spigot people here and would like to see breaking changes some day

xd

[eternal night]

Yea I mean

we all would want to

and I am hyped about the "breaking" enum -> reg change

[buoyant viper]

true

[livid dove]

Oh?

I've not heard of this

[buoyant viper]

u ever seen the Material class?

[livid dove]

....

[quiet ice]

Everyone is

[livid dove]

We do not speak of the clinically ill here

[quiet ice]

Bukkit 3.0 basically

[buoyant viper]

woo

[eternal night]

[shadow night]

Bukkit 2.0 exists?

[livid dove]

That shit haunts my sleep

[buoyant viper]

thats actually roughly how long BuildTools takes for me too lol

[quiet ice]

Yeah that is 1.13+

[shadow night]

Oh right

Thats why anything below 1.13 is considered legacy

[livid dove]

So... wtf is even up with the material class...

[buoyant viper]

anything before latest is legacy

smh

[livid dove]

Like ... why

[buoyant viper]

a relic of older times id imagine

it probably made sense when it was created

(probably)

[quiet ice]

You cannot add your own materials even if you really wanted to

[livid dove]

I read it and was like "Jesus christ our entire plugin community is built.on garbage" lmao

[eternal night]

it is xD

[buoyant viper]

thats basically Minecraft

[shadow night]

Lmao

[buoyant viper]

it all trickles down the chain, theres a reason we call them "Mojank"

[quiet ice]

Modded is much much much worse

[livid dove]

This is legit a case and point of why if we ever invent time travel we need to find the bukkit devs and fire Robert c Martins entire book collection straight at their heads at maxh 11.2

Mach 11.2

[shadow night]

Not that much, come on

[quiet ice]

Modded drama is really something

[shadow night]

Quilt?

oh no, what did I just

[quiet ice]

Also (neo-)forge, fabric and anything else

[livid dove]

Ngl our team got offered $300 dollars to do a mod quote and I legit vetod that shit

Was not worth

[shadow night]

Ah right, forge

That guys name was Lex, right?

[quiet ice]

Yup

[shadow night]

The guy who banned people for mentioning fabric or mixins

[livid dove]

Lmaooo

[quiet ice]

Still clinging to forge

[quiet ice]

Oh and multimc and forks - how could I forget?

[buoyant viper]

ah, nvm, paper does account for if certain parameters would be null

[livid dove]

I never got that really. It's why I love the spigot discord as we xan say talk about paper n shit and everyone, even mods, are chill.

We are all playing funny block game. And if anything talking about alternative mod clients etc is a good thing as that's how new ideas happen

[eternal night]

[shadow night]

Modded is drama

[buoyant viper]

thought that maybe it couldve caused calls to PlayerInteractEvent willy nilly

[shadow night]

Wait, aren't you that guy who was talking about doing what sounds stupid or something?

[livid dove]

Aye I am stupid idea man

I need a cape

[buoyant viper]

arent we all stupid idea people

[livid dove]

Made of bin bags

[shadow night]

Well yes

[quiet ice]

Meanwhile me: Transforming random plugins via the bukkit unsafe

[livid dove]

Especially raydan 👀

[quiet ice]

Slimefun, please add a proper API.

[buoyant viper]

now transform them via agents

[shadow night]

Especially me, doing the greatest shit solutions for no reason

[livid dove]

Lmao.
You'll never beat core protects spicy 1000 line lookup command 👀

I remember seeing it for the first time and being like "erm... how?" 🤣

[smoky anchor]

how about you share with the class ?

[livid dove]

Share a class? I'm not github

Lol

Give me one sec

[smoky anchor]

lol what :D

[livid dove]

Jk

[quiet ice]

Well but https://openjdk.org/jeps/8306275

[buoyant viper]

true

[shadow night]

What if I write the greatest bullshit code ever just to replicate pdc on 1.8

[livid dove]

https://github.com/PlayPro/CoreProtect/blob/master/src/main/java/net/coreprotect/command/LookupCommand.java

[buoyant viper]

gotta run -javaagent smh

[quiet ice]

Oh fuck, it is no longer a draft

[livid dove]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[buoyant viper]

this looks.. backwards? time to actually spin up paper to see what the config comment says

[smoky anchor]

WHY DOES IT HAVE CLASSES INTISE OF THE METHOD

[livid dove]

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST I HAVE NO IDEA

[quiet ice]

Oh I do that often

[livid dove]

1100 lines worth geol? xD

[quiet ice]

Well every once in a while

[smoky anchor]

oh god the nesting

[buoyant viper]

ive done anonymous inner classes, never full on classes

[livid dove]

Im tempted to start doing "Plugin jams" like we discussdd last month.

"Remake this class in less than 200 lines with the same functionality" would be first on the list lmao

The winner gets to put a PR into CO with a smile on their face lol

[buoyant viper]

ah

[quiet ice]

As in Triples or custom pair classes are usually classes within methods

[smoky anchor]

why no generic

[eternal night]

no, that is intended

usually parrots don't dismount un sneak

[buoyant viper]

i saw

lol

[eternal night]

ah xD

nice

[quiet ice]

Autoboxing is very expensive sometimes

[eternal night]

I mean, cool kids just use fastutil

[smoky anchor]

Fair point I guess ?
Never knew that could be an issue

[eternal night]

given they have pair combinations for like

anything and their mother

[quiet ice]

For millions of ops a second it is noticeable

[smoky anchor]

I mean I get that primitives are a special case and could be slower,
No idea if objects have that problem tho

[quiet ice]

Objects themselves are fine

Checkcasts get jitted most likely

[quaint mantle]

intelj wont crash anymore!?

[smoky anchor]

the what does what

[quiet ice]

But autoboxing is not jitted

[quiet ice]

Casts (required for generics) get JIT-compiled I assume

But autoboxing is not compiled properly

Hence the object alloc is done anyways, GC must do its job anyways and we see a performance impact

[buoyant viper]

oo paper event, interesting

[eternal night]

Yea that one is pretty nice

for those client side NPCs

[grim ice]

why the fuck

is forge named neoforged now

[quiet ice]

Fork

[smoky anchor]

I think I get like half of that lol
would have to learn what Just In Time actually is/does

[grim ice]

is there some type of drama

[quiet ice]

Yes. Lex was really a pain to work with. So the maintainers just nuked him from the equation

[quiet ice]

Basically optimizing your code while it runs

[wet breach]

Took me a bit to find this ping. Nice lol

[silent steeple]

is there a way the get a list from a JsonObject (com.google.gson.JsonObject;)

there is no Object.get().getAsStringLIst()

[twilit roost]

how should I make resource automatically update?

like when I rename some variable to it automatically renaming the old name into the new etc..?

Im currently trying to make my own changelog and slowly go through it and do every step it says was changed

any other better thoughts on how to do this?

[desert tinsel]

so Im using a dependency for embeded sqlite database:

<dependency>
            <groupId>org.xerial</groupId>
            <artifactId>sqlite-jdbc</artifactId>
            <version>3.39.3.0</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>```

and when I enable the server on a 1.8.9 server, I get this error: No suitable driver found for jdbc:sqlite:plugins/DeathMatch/database.db, but when I enable this plugin on a newer version like 1.18 I dont get the error and all is fine, why? This is the code: 
```java
public static void connect() {
        connection = null;
        try {
            File file = new File("plugins/DeathMatch/database.db");
            if (!file.exists())
                file.createNewFile();
            String url = "jdbc:sqlite:" + file.getPath();
            connection = DriverManager.getConnection(url);
            System.out.println("Baza de date creata");
            statement = connection.createStatement();
        } catch (SQLException |java.io.IOException e) {
            System.out.println("EROARE");
            e.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```.

[quiet ice]

A JsonObject is an object, not an array

[silent steeple]

i got it

thanks

i got anotherr question

public Hypebox(JsonObject object) {
        new Hypebox(object.get("name").getAsString(),
                (List<String>) object.get("lore"),
                object.get("item").getAsString(),
                (List<ItemStack>) object.get("rewards"));
    }

java.lang.ClassCastException: com.google.gson.JsonPrimitive cannot be cast to java.util.List

how do i make a list

(the other hypebox) Hypebox(String name, List<String> lore, String item, List<ItemStack> rewards)

[quiet ice]

I never used gson tbh

Always used org.json:json

[silent steeple]

hm ight

[quiet ice]

You probably have a .getAsArray method somewhere

[silent steeple]

https://www.javadoc.io/doc/com.google.code.gson/gson/2.8.5/com/google/gson/JsonElement.html

nope..

maybe a json array can be casted to a list

[quiet ice]

no

[silent steeple]

Inconvertible types; cannot cast 'com.google.gson.JsonArray' to 'java.util.List<java.lang.String>

nope

[quiet ice]

But jsonArray can be converted to a list easily

[silent steeple]

how

[quiet ice]

.asList?

[silent steeple]

where

[quiet ice]

JsonArray

[silent steeple]

https://www.javadoc.io/doc/com.google.code.gson/gson/2.6.2/com/google/gson/JsonArray.html

no such method

[spare hazel]

i need to get worldguard as a dependecy but it says:

com.sk89q:worldguard:pom:7.0 failed to transfer from http://0.0.0.0/ during a previous attempt. This failure was cached in the local repository and resolution is not reattempted until the update interval of maven-default-http-blocker has elapsed or updates are forced. Original error: Could not transfer artifact com.sk89q:worldguard:pom:7.0 from/to maven-default-http-blocker (http://0.0.0.0/): Blocked mirror for repositories: [sk89q-repo (http://maven.sk89q.com/repo/, default, releases+snapshots)]

Since Maven 3.8.1 http repositories are blocked.

Possible solutions:
- Check that Maven pom files do not contain http repository http://maven.sk89q.com/repo/
- Add a mirror(s) for http://maven.sk89q.com/repo/ that allows http url in the Maven settings.xml
- Downgrade Maven to version 3.8.1 or earlier in settings

[quiet ice]

Then you are on an outdated ver

[silent steeple]

oh

[eternal oxide]

you are trying to use http not https

[quiet ice]

I exists since 2.10

You need to use enginejub anyways

Sk89q repo is deprecated

[silent steeple]

nice

thx

[spare hazel]

how can i add the enginehub repo?

[silent steeple]

it returns a list of JsonElement but i need it to be a list of String

Inconvertible types; cannot cast 'java.util.List<com.google.gson.JsonElement>' to 'java.util.List<java.lang.String>'

cant cast it either

[wet breach]

because sqlite isn't shaded into older spigot versions but is for newer versions

so for older versions you would need to shade sqlite into your plugin

[remote swallow]

JsonElement to object to getAsString

[silent steeple]

hw

how

[remote swallow]

Check the methods

[silent steeple]

yeah

i need a List

not a String

[smoky anchor]

stream the list, map it to string with element.getAsString
at the end convert to string list

[hazy parrot]

you dont need to create file yourself

sqlite will handle that

[twilit roost]

InputStream resourceStream = Otto.class.getResourceAsStream(name);
        if (resourceStream == null){
            Logger.warn("-=:> Didn't update resource because it's stream was null! " + name);
            return false;
        }

this always returns null
even tho I know the path is correct and all

any ideas why?

[hazy parrot]

what are you getting

from where and show your project structure

[hazy parrot]

and also variable name

[twilit roost]

im always getting null
otherwise it wouldn't always log that message

[dry hazel]

prefix the path with /

[twilit roost]

it works fine in saving method without that prefix tho

[hazy parrot]

you can also just use JavaPlugin#saveResource, it will automatically save to your plugin folder

[twilit roost]

well here I need to get the contents of the resource so I can update it or sum stuff

imma try to prefix it tho

probably worked? :D
got configuration error so it got pass that resource stream

thx :D

[buoyant viper]

he he...

(part of a check of LivingEntity's)

[tender shard]

LivingEntity is a weird name anyway

all entities are "alive" somehow

[buoyant viper]

Paintings are an entity

paintings are not alive

[smoky anchor]

Is the distinction not having AI ?

[buoyant viper]

do armor stands have AI?

[smoky anchor]

I doubt it

[buoyant viper]

maybe the distinction is if it has an inventory or not

[flint coyote]

giant doesn't have AI anymore but is still a living entity

[tender shard]

well they are kinda alive if they are there and dead if they get removed

[buoyant viper]

since iirc armor stands need an inv to display equipment

i dont think non-living have inventory

but idr

[smoky anchor]

They don't have AI since it was removed, but they can have AI
can non-living entities have AI ?

[buoyant viper]

petition to PR to spigot to add (back) zombie AI to Giants

[smoky anchor]

sounds more like Paper thing, they like to change gameplay

[buoyant viper]

xd

[flint coyote]

it won't change gameplay since giants don't spawn naturally

[buoyant viper]

petition to PR Giants to spawn in those big open plains at night

with low spawn chance ofc

unless

[eternal oxide]

giant collisions was annoying

so hard to hit them

[buoyant viper]

was?

[flint coyote]

All zombies become giants at full moon if they are non obstructed

[buoyant viper]

if zombie hit by lighting, gigantify it

[eternal oxide]

I like the idea of all becoming giants at full moon

[buoyant viper]

hmm

[fast merlin]

when building spigot is there any way i can change the name that the jar saves as? for instance right now it is [INFO] Spigot 1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT ......................... SUCCESS [ 23.933 s] but i would like to change 1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT to something different

[buoyant viper]

not yet nah

[tender shard]

--final-name

[buoyant viper]

not a flag yet isnt it

[tender shard]

it is

[fast merlin]

i mean when i run mvn clean install

is that how id do it

[tender shard]

just use --final-name outdated-server.jar and there you got your 1.8.8

[tender shard]

you don't build spigot using just mvn install though

[buoyant viper]

u lie, dont see it on stash

[tender shard]

idk I use the version from #1117702470139904020

that definitely has this flag

[kind hatch]

It hasn't been PR'd yet.

[tender shard]

why not

[buoyant viper]

tht version isnt official yet

[fast merlin]

i mean i rebuild patches after im done editing and then mvn clean install and i have my jar... so how would i change the name it builds as

[bitter rune]

Hey spigot development. I'm currently messing with saving information. It's great I got it saving in a folder with the UUID, issue is I'm having issues getting that information out of the folder upon relog, and restart. I can see the value in the file going up so it's saving correctly I just can't pull the value from it

[kind hatch]

Cause @river oracle is cleaing up code.

[tender shard]

1.8.8 also isn't official anymore

[buoyant viper]

its official, just not supported

[tender shard]

it's dead and everyone who uses it should feel bad

[fast merlin]

dont some of the biggest servers still use it

i mean most people play hypixel on 1.8.9

alot better performance

[tender shard]

ofc a game with less features needs less cpu

windows xp also ran on 500mhz pentium 2

[fast merlin]

i mean why do i care about bees and swimming mechanics when i want to pvp

my server is kitpvp

so 1.8 works

[buoyant viper]

OldCombatMechanics ezpz

[bitter rune]

Not always the case, because higher versions of programs learn how to optimize better over time but yeah

[tender shard]

isnt pvp on 1.8 simply "who can spam click the fastest"

[fast merlin]

not exactly

[tender shard]

while in 1.9+ you gotta time your attacks etc

[fast merlin]

i mean theres alot to it

[tender shard]

carlos recently updated to 1.20.1.

be like carlos

[flint coyote]

reminds me of the website that runs on a 4.77mhz cpu on a 39 year old DOS Webserver with 736KB RAM

[bitter rune]

For old pvp there's always bedrock. I personally would love bedrock if the mob spawns weren't bad and you could customize realm servers a little more

[flint coyote]

http://brutmanlabs.org/

will probably crash if we all open it at once lmao

[tender shard]

Lol thats awesome

It probably already dies when there‘s more than 7 actual visitors per minute

Took 10 seconds to load for me

[bitter rune]

I'm scared to click on it

[eternal oxide]

most home hosted websites can be taken down by 3-4 people holding F5 when visiting their page

[flint coyote]

2650+ hours of uptime though

[tender shard]

Thats less than 4 months though

[silent steeple]

4.77mhz

LOL

[flint coyote]

they built it in march

http://brutmanlabs.org/status you can see it here.

[tender shard]

Average 1.8 user‘s cpu

[flint coyote]

it even got 56kb of free ram

[silent steeple]

https://imgur.com/lVx4ofq

1.7 user 💪🏿

[tender shard]

My fridge probably got a better cpu than this webserver lol

[flint coyote]

time to run a webserver on my old tamagotchi

[silent steeple]

can you run a webserver on a nintendo 3ds

[tender shard]

Does it have any network stuff

[silent steeple]

yeah it can connect to the internet

[tender shard]

Then go for it

[silent steeple]

nah im good on that 😭

[bitter rune]

You'll need to homebrew it, but it should be possible afterwards

[silent steeple]

It already is

[grizzled flame]

or just gutter it like a fish and remove the original electronics and put a 10$ qt py esp32-s2 in it and pretend it's a nintendos 3ds since it says so on the casing

[desert tinsel]

.

[astral horizon]

can i check the boat before it hits the certain wall (*block)?

[remote swallow]

you dont load the driver

[desert tinsel]

how?

[twilit roost]

java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.lang.String cannot be cast to class net.md_5.bungee.config.Configuration (java.lang.String is in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap'; net.md_5.bungee.config.Configuration is in unnamed module of loader 'app')
    at net.md_5.bungee.config.Configuration.getSection(Configuration.java:136)

any ideas why it thinks im casting?

[hazy parrot]

because you are calling getSection and its not section but string in config

[twilit roost]

like this
don't know the correct name tho

you gotta google that

[twilit roost]

ooh
tysm

[desert tinsel]

tysm

[silent steeple]

is base64 itemstack serialization standard

[quiet ice]

Myesn't

It generally will work but it can fail if you change versions

[silent steeple]

well we out here 🤷🏿‍♂️

[silent steeple]

well 1.8< users are not legally allowed to use the plugin

[quiet ice]

The best was to serialize itemstacks would be through paper API as that uses DFU (Data fixer upper) but that is not part of bukkit API

[silent steeple]

nah we dont fw paper

i only fw CarbonSpigot

my beloved

[quiet ice]

Lemme guess - that is a paper fork

[silent steeple]

no

spigot fork

[quiet ice]

No, it's a paper fork.
Though given that it uses the antiquitated "PaperSpigot" name I'd not use it under any circumstance

[carmine mica]

smh, what is CarbonSpigot

[silent steeple]

what is the paperspigot groupId

[quiet ice]

Paid paper fork no 206

[remote swallow]

1.8 is probably destroys tokyo

[quiet ice]

Paperspigot is dead

[vast ledge]

Java is beautiful i love it

[quiet ice]

And in that case the DFU method does not exist so at that point might as well stick with bukkit API as it'd be stable regardless

[silent steeple]

?

[onyx fjord]

what

[quiet ice]

What I'm saying it's called PaperMC for a while now

[remote swallow]

papers package now is io.paper.papermc, it used to be something destroystokyo

[silent steeple]

no its not

[onyx fjord]

same thing

its still a fork of spigot

[quiet ice]

PaperSpigot is the name of VERY old paper releases

[onyx fjord]

LOL

u must join our discord

hell yea

[quiet ice]

Back before paper was really worth using

[silent steeple]

oh i just realised i had vSpigot in my project not carbonspigot

lol

[quiet ice]

Probably the same thing

[carmine mica]

is vSpigot a thing too, or just a typo

[remote swallow]

aper used to use com.destroystokyo.paper

[onyx fjord]

mfs use the whole alphabet

[quiet ice]

Any XSpigot forks are in 90% of cases a paper fork

Or in regex speak: any [a-zA-Z]+[Ss]pigot forks

[onyx fjord]

i dont speak regex

i speak glob

[silent steeple]

yeah

ValorSpigot

[onyx fjord]

no google results

[silent steeple]

https://github.com/disclearing/vSpigot

fork of mspigot

[eternal night]

We do love publishing mojang owned code

[vast ledge]

Yea

isnt it lovely

[carmine mica]

Some of those “features” on carbonspigot are really stretching it…

Configurable tps command? Like great stuff

[silent steeple]

nah there is proof in their discord

[carmine mica]

I’m not talking about the bigger ones, but it looks like they were just trying to put as much on the list as possible

[silent steeple]

yeah competition

[carmine mica]

Several of those I wouldn’t really consider “fork features” as a plugin could easily do the same

[silent steeple]

wtf is a
ASM Based Event-Bus replacement for Bukkit (2x Faster)

whats ASM

[eternal night]

|| purpur ? /s ||

[silent steeple]

assembly?

[onyx fjord]

i vanna zee ze proof

[silent steeple]

join ze ziscord

[eternal night]

ASM based event bus, you mean paper's ? xD

[carmine mica]

Pretty sure regular paper has that too

Yeah

[quiet ice]

Java bytecode library

[silent steeple]

so assembly

[onyx fjord]

y would it need to be asm based

[eternal night]

100% yes

[quiet ice]

Nah, ASM is something else

[eternal night]

bytecode is assembly honestly

[hybrid spoke]

thought JBL is about music

[eternal night]

its magic

[carmine mica]

Cause it’s better than using reflection

[silent steeple]

java version of asm

[quiet ice]

ASM at least in java space is a library that operates with java bytecode.
Java bytecode is different to normal assembly in that it is far more human-readable (it isn't machine code) and is stack-based instead of register-based

[eternal night]

var handle moment.

[silent steeple]

any good JNI guides

[quiet ice]

Don't.

[silent steeple]

why

[quiet ice]

We live in a world where JNI is to be eradicated

[silent steeple]

i enjoy JNI

[quiet ice]

Use FFI instead

[silent steeple]

ok but

[quiet ice]

Or just don't work with low-level stuff

[silent steeple]

it doesnt support java 8

[quiet ice]

There is 0 reason to use Java 8 my man.
Java 21 is the future and anyone disagreeing will get removed.

[eternal night]

removed

[silent steeple]

java 21 is gonna ruin java for the better 😭

[eternal night]

[silent steeple]

what is java without public static void main

[eternal night]

the syntactic sugar is the least exciting bit in that release

[silent steeple]

whats exciting

then

[carmine mica]

the ordered collections stuff I think is really handy

[quiet ice]

java 21 my beloved: https://openjdk.org/jeps/445

[carmine mica]

the destructuring stuff is in too right? after a zillion previews

[eternal night]

I mean, record patterns and the related JEPs all left preview

yea

pattern matching is gonna be great

[silent steeple]

its actually crazy java got better

[ivory sleet]

Structured concurrency still in preview 😭

[eternal night]

valhalla when ?

[quiet ice]

Well at least FFI/Project panama is out

[silent steeple]

noooooo not Unnamed classes 😭

[quiet ice]

2038 probably

[eternal night]

[quiet ice]

But I mean valhalla is going to absolutely stun all java bytecode fuckery for some time

[eternal night]

True that

but the speed

and the efficiency

[dull goblet]

Is it safe to use vault rn? Plugin page says 1.17 max but some people in comments say it works.

[quiet ice]

Let's just hope mojang doesn't use it anytime soon though.
Spigot would be in deep trouble if that is the case

[eternal night]

vault is pretty much feature complete

and does not need updating

[quiet ice]

As a vault contributor: Yes - perfectly.

[eternal night]

you can use it

[dull goblet]

Okay thank you!

[maiden thicket]

vault only uses basic non breaking api i think thats why its still compatibel

[quiet ice]

Well Folia still manages to break it

But in that case just use my fork

[maiden thicket]

damn

[sturdy zealot]

what is a nice way to detect if a player is in a cave?

[maiden thicket]

i havent touched folia yet

[maiden thicket]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/Block.html#getLightFromSky()

maybe

[eternal night]

I mean, folia breaks everything

[quiet ice]

Well it is the update detection logic that is a tiny bit incompatible with folia - but it still causes it to fail to start

[eternal night]

that is why you gotta add the flag to your plugin.yml

lol

[maiden thicket]

folia is out to get me

@eternal night i forget, is paper making a custom server software from scratch or has plan to?

to move away from mojang code

[eternal night]

no

[maiden thicket]

damn

[eternal night]

those projects seem pretty damned to fail

at least from the looks of it

[maiden thicket]

true

compatibility would die

[silent steeple]

hypeBoxMeta.setLore(parts.getLore().stream().map(line -> ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', line)).collect(Collectors.toList()));

common java W

[vast ledge]

xD

[silent steeple]

whats the event for when a player right clicks an item

player interact event?

[vast ledge]

yes

Action.RIGHT_CLICK

[icy beacon]

why can this be occurring?
Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: No value specified for parameter 1
debug:

[19:18:45 INFO]: Query:
      UPDATE kitpvp_abilities
      SET cooldownseconds = ?
      WHERE uuid = ? AND abilityid = ?;

[19:18:45 INFO]: Param1: 60
[19:18:45 INFO]: Param2: 3aca9dd9-313c-3d02-8034-872cbf00b219
[19:18:45 INFO]: Param3: lovely

so the params are there and conform to the query, but i'm still getting the exception

i can post the full exception but it's not too relevant prob

[vast ledge]

then air or a block is option

[eternal night]

I mean, provide code

[dull goblet]

I'm trying to access essentialsX API, but i'm not sure what the repository should be. I am using maven.
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/net.essentialsx/EssentialsX/2.20.0

I already have this as dependency:

<!-- https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/net.essentialsx/EssentialsX -->
<dependency>
    <groupId>net.essentialsx</groupId>
    <artifactId>EssentialsX</artifactId>
    <version>2.20.0</version>
</dependency>

[silent steeple]

shout out to the .stream() method, my favourite type of method

[icy beacon]

wait, i have a dangling update statement lmao

[onyx fjord]

maven central probably

oh this one https://repo.essentialsx.net/releases/

[icy beacon]

i had this statement that i forgot to remove

let me see if this will work after removal

[silent steeple]

anyone got a command framework with annotations

please put me on 🙏🏿

[eternal night]

cloud ?

[onyx fjord]

eyo 💀 i dunno it it should be like that

[eternal night]

it should

that way you can wake up each day

[silent steeple]

wym

[eternal night]

and think to yourself, will mojang DMCA my repo

or not

[onyx fjord]

uare not supposed to release mojangs code

[eternal night]

maybe its gone, maybe it isn't

[silent steeple]

yeah but they r different

[eternal night]

doesn't matter

[onyx fjord]

who is different

[silent steeple]

they disregarded the dmca with "No"

[onyx fjord]

???

[eternal night]

they are not different enough to not be considered copyrighted

[onyx fjord]

its on github

github doesnt ignore dmca

[quaint mantle]

I have added a custom sound (a song) to a resourcepack, and I want to play it so every player hears it. I had thought on putting this line inside a for loop:
player.playSound(player, "custom:playerjoin", SoundCategory.VOICE, 1f, 1f);
however, when the sound provided is a string, the method doesn't seem to allow me to pass a player as the first argument

[silent steeple]

nah they replied with "No"

[eternal night]

I see

honestly, No seems like a generally good answer for that project

[silent steeple]

yeah

[dull goblet]

I added that one but i suddenly get this when i try to package:
Unsupported class file major version 60, haven't had that before.

<repository>
    <id>net.essentialsx</id>
    <url>https://repo.essentialsx.net/releases/</url>
</repository>
<dependency>
    <groupId>net.essentialsx</groupId>
    <artifactId>EssentialsX</artifactId>
    <version>2.20.0</version>
</dependency>

[onyx fjord]

ok ill contact mojang and ask them what they think

[eternal night]

would be kinda funny honestly

[onyx fjord]

jk im not their employee

[eternal night]

could open a support ticket idk

[onyx fjord]

they ignored me ima ignore them

[silent steeple]

lmk the reply

they will be like we have already asked them multiple times but they have sent bomb threats back to us

nothing we can do about it

[onyx fjord]

ze reply

[silent steeple]

archive

d

[remote swallow]

https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2014/2014-09-05-CraftBukkit.md

read the craftbukkit dmca

[silent steeple]

wolverness is weird

[eternal night]

[silent steeple]

yeah but those people got removed they didnt reply with bomb threats

[eternal night]

idk man, bomb threats from a dude that maintains 1.8 forks don't seem really scary

[remote swallow]

eaglercraft be like

[icy beacon]

you're wrong actually

if someone is so insane to maintain 1.8

they are insane enough to fulfill their threats

[remote swallow]

eaglercraft is currently benig took down it seems

[eternal night]

Yea but I doubt they are evolved enough to know how to get those to mojang HQ

[remote swallow]

cant wait for minecraft to submit a dmca to google and have all eaglercraft search results removed

[icy beacon]

having spent years maintaining something with such a shitty api, they've sworn to destroy their hq many times

[silent steeple]

https://imgur.com/WK9xBWA

@remote swallow

[remote swallow]

doubt it would be very hard to get it took down

"Hi mojang, link"

[sterile breach]

Hello, what is the better? bukkitrunable or Scheduler?

[silent steeple]

so many people use nachospigot

for years

and its not been dmca

[remote swallow]

or they just dont give a shit about 1.8

[silent steeple]

yet

yessir

[eternal night]

I mean understandable

who in their right mind gives a shit about 1.8

[buoyant viper]

internally they probably call the same methods

use what u please

[icy beacon]

i'm working on a 1.8 commission atm and i want to die and kill

[silent steeple]

me

my favourite fork: https://github.com/Electroid/SportPaper

[tender shard]

only legitimate reason I can think of why anyone'd use 1.8 is if you just woke up from a 7 year coma and didnt realize how much time has passed

[grim ice]

well

not necessarily

[icy beacon]

it also starts up fast

the only upside

[grim ice]

1.20 is way more extensive than 1.8

[icy beacon]

yeah and its api is not dogshit

[grim ice]

people who play on potato pcs

may not like 1.20

personally i didnt have trouble working with 1.8

[silent steeple]

+1

[grim ice]

doesnt mean i like it though

[icy beacon]

its api is missing key features, such as, uh, documentation

[grim ice]

eh

might just be me

but mostly its self explanatory

[icy beacon]

not really pleasant to be working with something and not being able to even know whether something is nullable

[grim ice]

test it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[icy beacon]

bruh

[grim ice]

arguably, this is a design flaw

[icy beacon]

"if my code was hard to write it should be hard to read, no docs for you"

[silent steeple]

how do i check how many chars/words in my whole project

[icy beacon]

a design flaw on behalf of 1.8 api

of course i can nullcheck everything

it's stupid and unnecessary though

just lemme know what is and what isnt nullable and under what conditions

[grim ice]

most languages like csharp

have null safety

[icy beacon]

i use kotlin and it has null safety

[grim ice]

then?

[icy beacon]

are you saying that the fact, that 1.8 api doesn't state nullability, is a design flaw of java???

[grim ice]

well, in a perfect world, you'd love your programming language to tell you if something is non existent...

[icy beacon]

well it can't read the minds of an api

[sterile breach]

so, which one to use?

[grim ice]

it doesnt have to

[icy beacon]

public abstract String getName();

tell me if this is nullable

exactly, it is

but what if it isn't, and it just lacks an annotation or docs

see the difference:

public abstract String getName();
// invokation
if (x.getName() == null) return;
x.getName()...

@NonNull
public abstract String getName();
// invokation
x.getName()..

if there's no @nonnull i'm just gonna assume it's nullable in 95% of the cases

[grim ice]

well

in csharp

[icy beacon]

or well for kotlin
x.getName()?... which is much more convenient but still not convenient if i need to pass a strictly non-null value

[grim ice]

you have Nullable<> or ? for short

so technically

it is somewhat of a design flaw

[icy beacon]

lack of docs is a language design flaw

got it

mb

[grim ice]

okay that is not what i said

💀

[icy beacon]

see this snippet

this could be simplified to the first 2 lines if i knew whether damager & entity are null or not

i do assume they aren't

but what if they fucking are

[grim ice]

well..

you already checked if damager is instanceof player

so the nullcheck is not necessary at all

[icy beacon]

ah right, kotlin does allow for this, however i'd easily argue that most of the spigot community uses java

including the api itself 😭

[grim ice]

it aint kotlin that does this

its java

🤦🏻