help-development

[silent steeple]

i guess

[loud steeple]

id wanna use vscode but no tutorias

and i wanted to try kotlin

[river oracle]

kotlin 💀

just stick with java and vsc buddy

[loud steeple]

nah

[noble lantern]

2 new things at once? sounds like a recipe for failure

[loud steeple]

java makes me want to kms

[river oracle]

kotlin is just spicy java

you won't have much more fun

[sacred berry]

java literally the best?

[remote swallow]

[noble lantern]

ide wanna kms too if i had to learn a IDE and a new language syntax at the same time

sounds painfull

[tender shard]

you can use kotlin for spigot without problems

[young knoll]

fun

[tender shard]

you can also use VSC without problems

[noble lantern]

were having fun with kotlin guys i promise

[loud steeple]

is there a way to reload a plugin?

[young knoll]

They could have at least used func

Smh

[river oracle]

VSC has 0 kotlin support :P

[tender shard]

you mean to reload the whole .jar file?

[river oracle]

kotlin is pretty much exclusive to IDEA

[tender shard]

huh didnt know

[flint coyote]

/reload

[chrome beacon]

But that's no fun

[loud steeple]

test a plugin without restarting the server

oh?

[young knoll]

Reload will reload all plugins

[tender shard]

/reload confirm works on both spigot and paper

[young knoll]

Be aware that it can break things

[loud steeple]

it worked! can i ask why it genereted paper-plugin.yml isntead of plugin.yml? should i worry on why i had to rename it?

[remote swallow]

you had the paper option under bukkit selected

[young knoll]

Because you selected a paper plugin

[remote swallow]

its jank with the new gui

[flint coyote]

Yeah reloading worldedit too many times makes me have to sigkill my server lol

[river oracle]

theirs a syntax highlights pluygin last time I checked, but its obvious why there isn't a VSC plugin, one of the biggest IDE companies in the game makes a language, ofcourse they aren't going to officially support anything outside of their platform.

[young knoll]

Yeah worldedit doesn’t like reloading

[tender shard]

because you selected paper instead of spigot

[echo basalt]

you can literally tell intellij to use vsc's keybinds

[young knoll]

Causes a lot of memory leaks

[loud steeple]

i wanted paper

[echo basalt]

not as fun as corsair's memory leaks

[remote swallow]

why are you complainign here then

[echo basalt]

if you have rgb lights on your headphones or mouse or anything

their controller leaks

[young knoll]

Then you need to run it on a paper server

[remote swallow]

like i said spigot plugins work on paper, paper plugins do not work on spigot

[tender shard]

earlier you said you wanted to use spigot

[loud steeple]

i dont think i did ;v or im dumb

[echo basalt]

I've had rgb lights consume 12gb ram

[remote swallow]

do you want your plugins to run on spigot servers

[young knoll]

Mmm yes

Rgb ram

[tender shard]

or my bad, I misread

[loud steeple]

no, paper is fine

[remote swallow]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[flint coyote]

more rgb = more ram - noted

[young knoll]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[echo basalt]

I use mismatched sticks

[young knoll]

Damn

[tender shard]

anyway, is that plugin supposed to be public plugin, or just for yourself?

[echo basalt]

like a true person

one's a team group

one's a crucial ballistix

[loud steeple]

for myself

[echo basalt]

both overclocked to 3600mhz (they're 3200mhz sticks)

[tender shard]

then why are you running your paper plugin on spigot?

[loud steeple]

i swear i have a paper server?

[echo basalt]

mor elike

Then why are you asking here?

go bother the paper people

[tender shard]

well but then you're running an old version

[loud steeple]

i thought this was the sever for spigot and paper

[remote swallow]

nope, were spigot

paper is a downstream for of us

[loud steeple]

isnt it just spigot < paper

[echo basalt]

no

Paper is a heavily modified fork of spigot

with a completely different culture

[sacred berry]

craftbukkit>?

[loud steeple]

oh its a fork, i thought it was built as a replacement for spigot from ground up

[tender shard]

no, this is the spigot discord

[remote swallow]

spigot is bukkit with the api, craftbukkit is that impl and spigot modifes both

[tender shard]

paper is spigot with a few useful additions and a few bullshit additions / removals

[echo basalt]

and they ban people for random reasons

as I said, different culture and view on how minecraft should be ran

[sacred berry]

"how minecraft should be ran" 😂 It's literally a block game, not too deep

[echo basalt]

It's an industry

It's my day job

[sacred berry]

damn

[flint coyote]

What's your night job?

[echo basalt]

also minecraft

[young knoll]

Murder

[echo basalt]

but the bad part

where I cleanup disgusting projects for 50$

[timid hedge]

I am trying to male a command with a cooldown, and the cooldown can be set in a config file
(Config.get().getInt("Cooldown")) = is what you have set tre cooldown to in the config file

If i am sending (Config.get().getInt("Cooldown"))to the player it sends what is inside the fil but in the class when im trying to set the cooldown its not working

Here is the line:
cooldown.setCooldown(player, (Config.get().getInt("Cooldown")) * 60 * 1000, TimeUnit.MILLISECONDS);

Here is the most importens from the class

    @Override
    public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args) {
        if (sender instanceof Player) {
            Player player = (Player) sender;
            if (player.hasPermission((Config.get().getString("Permission")))) {
                if (!cooldown.hasCooldown(player)) {
                    cooldown.setCooldown(player, (Config.get().getInt("Cooldown")) * 60 * 1000, TimeUnit.MILLISECONDS);
                    player.setFoodLevel(20);
                    player.sendMessage("§7Du blev mættet.");
                    player.sendMessage(Config.get().getString("Cooldown"));
                } else {
                    if (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.MINUTES) >= 1){
                        player.sendMessage("§7Du skal vente §f" + cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.MINUTES) + " §7minutter og §f" + (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.SECONDS) - (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.MINUTES) * 60)) + " §7sekunder.");
                    }
                    if (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.MINUTES) == 0) {
                        player.sendMessage("§7Du skal vente §f" + (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.SECONDS) - (cooldown.getCooldownRemaining(player, TimeUnit.MINUTES) * 60)) + " §7sekunder.");
                    }

[young knoll]

I mean

Worth it? Maybe

[flint coyote]

sounds more like 2 hours than a whole night

[remote swallow]

in the day he writes cool stuff, in the night he saves servers from skript

[young knoll]

You underestimate the spaghetti

[tender shard]

mine is oiling the poles in strip clubs

[flint coyote]

Well if someone pays me for something I certainly won't work more than 2 hours for 50€ lol

[loud steeple]

quick question, if i wanna make a 1.8 plugin do i still use like 1.20 spigot/paper

[echo basalt]

no

[flint coyote]

Sounds fun, can I join some time?

[remote swallow]

no

[echo basalt]

Here's a fun one I've been doing

[tender shard]

no, you use "spigot-api" version "1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT"

[echo basalt]

https://github.com/kanesada2/SnowballGame

thank me later

[timid hedge]

.

[loud steeple]

i only saw 1.12

can i just change

[remote swallow]

yes

[loud steeple]

my yml file

i mean xml

[remote swallow]

1.12 is the farest back mcdev supports

you can go further

[flint coyote]

Nice package structure

[loud steeple]

<version>1.20-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version> do i change this? and itll work like magic?

[remote swallow]

reload it and change api-verison but yeah

[echo basalt]

straight garbage

they use strings instead of data objects

or enums

[flint coyote]

not even used an autoformatter

[echo basalt]

just a big ol if(tier.equals("highest")) coefficient = 1.2

else if

else if

no pdc no nothing, raw lore checks

and some other fucked stuff

[flint coyote]

yikes. I wouldn't touch that for 50€

[echo basalt]

pity price

I like reminding myself of my outstanding quality

by forcing myself to work for the equivalent of minimum wage in vietnam

[flint coyote]

that code is horrible

and I only looked at one class

[young knoll]

You can always send the better paying ones to me then

[flint coyote]

https://github.com/kanesada2/SnowballGame/blob/master/src/main/java/com/github/kanesada2/SnowballGame/BallJudgeTask.java
wtf is this

[young knoll]

If you don’t want them

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[echo basalt]

nah I'm good

saving to travel to the states

[quaint mantle]

After setting the base value of a players Attribute do you need to do anything else to save it?

[echo basalt]

also just bought a new phone and I gotta go to the dentist for some pricy stuff

So like

I need the cash money

customer feels bad for making me touch this

[young knoll]

Lul

[clever musk]

How to resend block updates?

[flint coyote]

I feel bad for the guy who writes code like this

[remote swallow]

calling it now'

this plugin was made as a first plugin with barely knowing java witht he mc dev plugi

[flint coyote]

till this day I never used that plugin

[remote swallow]

its meh

[quaint mantle]

People have to learn

[remote swallow]

kinda useful for gradle, if you use maven just use an archetype

[quaint mantle]

you don’t come in knowing it all

[trail coral]

how would i enable a player to move items from their inventory to my gui but not the other way around lol

like i want to be able to move stuff around in my inventory

but not in the gui

i just dont know how i would detect if the inventory is a players inventory

[young knoll]

So do we!

[flint coyote]

Well they could start with smaller projects that they are more in control of. This looks like someone who learned to ride a bike went to fly a jet

[quaint mantle]

I mean does it work

[trail coral]

u m

[flint coyote]

idk - probably - just like a jet will land at some point, no matter who's flying it and how skilled he/she is

[tender shard]

yes

[flint coyote]

maven magic 🪄

[trail coral]

bruh

[orchid trout]

you can check if the inventorytype equals inventorytype.player

the clicked inventory type

[timid hedge]

Can someone help me?

[trail coral]

if(e.getClickedInventory().getType() == InventoryType.PLAYER) {return;}

thanks

[trail coral]

?cooldowns

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/feature-command-cooldowns/

[tender shard]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[opaque scarab]

This is a guess, but you can run an event for when a player clicks the item. If they move the item into another inventory type, remember that. If the event then runs again but the inventory type for the same item is back in the player inventory, put it back or cancel the event.

[trail coral]

nah they should be able to move their items inside the gui aswell i just explained it bad there

but thanks

[timid hedge]

When i am using the command ingame there isn’t a cooldown i can just spam the command

[trail coral]

@timid hedge i already replied to tou

[hallow jackal]

Currently trying to make a method that opens the sign gui using ProtocolLib (so no sign is needed to be really placed). Does anybody know why the gui is closed immediatly in any other version that's not 1.20/1.20.1 or simply another way to achieve that?

    public void openSignGui(BlockPlaceEvent event) throws InterruptedException {
        ProtocolManager manager = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager();
        Location playerLocation = event.getPlayer().getLocation();

        PacketContainer createSignPacket = manager.createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.BLOCK_CHANGE);
        createSignPacket.getBlockData().write(0, WrappedBlockData.createData(Material.OAK_SIGN));

        PacketContainer openSignPacket = manager.createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.OPEN_SIGN_EDITOR);
        openSignPacket.getBlockPositionModifier().write(0,
                new BlockPosition(playerLocation.getBlockX(), playerLocation.getBlockY(), playerLocation.getBlockZ()));

        manager.sendServerPacket(event.getPlayer(), createSignPacket);
        manager.sendServerPacket(event.getPlayer(), openSignPacket);
    }```

[trail coral]

probably different packets in older versions or something

[sacred berry]

didn't papermc use to be developed by spigotmc tho

[hallow jackal]

Yeah, Open Sign Editor takes a new argument in 1.20 that controls the side you write on, but i'm not providing it in the first place and i'm starting to believe my approach is just wrong

[young knoll]

No

[echo basalt]

no

[chrome beacon]

Paper is a fork

[terse bough]

I have a question about the newer versions is there a way to send e.g. the ItemDisplay by packet or so that only special players see them. because I can only do it with the EntityItemDisplay classes but this does not exist.
maybe someone could dm me

[tender shard]

show your config

[tender shard]

the class is called Display.ItemDisplay

[worldly ingot]

You don't have to do this with ProtocolLib at all. I don't understand

Player#sendBlockChange(), Player#openSign()

[timid hedge]

Sry i gtg, i can do it tomorrow

[terse bough]

Yes I already tested also but without result? The ItemDisplay did not spawn

        PacketPlayOutSpawnEntity packetPlayOutSpawnEntity = new PacketPlayOutSpawnEntity(itemDisplay);
        ((CraftPlayer)player).getHandle().c.a(packetPlayOutSpawnEntity);```

Is only an example are the methods at all correct and how do I have to change here the item like the location?

[tender shard]

no idea how it works in obfuscated mappings

is there a reason why you don't use mojang mapped names?

[chrome beacon]

They probably don't know how

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[tender shard]

then you would have methods like "player.getConnection().send(Packet)" instead of player.c.a(...)

[hallow jackal]

Just tried using those methods, they create a real sign. idk if i'm missing something

[flint coyote]

the commit message warcrime

[chrome beacon]

Fake sign for one player

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, they're "real signs", only on the client, not on the server

[worldly ingot]

"Minor changes"

OH WAIT THAT ACTUALLY IS THE MESSAGE

lol I was making a suggestion

[flint coyote]

xD

I hid it well

[young knoll]

Small refactor

[flint coyote]

"some small adjustments"

now my 13 hour coding session comes to an end.

[young knoll]

I’m also bad at that

Doing a full session as 1 commit

[echo basalt]

"made some stuff"

[flint coyote]

Well to be fair it was all one big refactor

and 1 or 2 small bugfixes

Swapped all my "Map<String, Object>" to ConfigurationSerializables

[trail coral]

what the fuck

[hallow jackal]

I must be missing something then, because they are pretty real right now. I can interact with them from a different mc instance.

    public void openSignGuiNoLib(BlockPlaceEvent event) throws InterruptedException {
        ProtocolManager manager = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager();
        Location playerLocation = event.getPlayer().getLocation();
        Block imaginarySign = playerLocation.getBlock();
        imaginarySign.setType(Material.OAK_SIGN);
            
        event.getPlayer().sendBlockChange(playerLocation, imaginarySign.getBlockData());
        event.getPlayer().openSign((Sign) imaginarySign);
    }```

wrong reply btw

[young knoll]

Well yeah

You called setType…

[tender shard]

i stopped writing commit messages completely

[young knoll]

Use Material.OAK_SIGN.createBlockData

[flint coyote]

nah I still do. I obviously did not name it "minor changes" I just love seeing that in repos

[tender shard]

usually I just write "1.20 support" or the new version name, e.g. "12.3.1" and that's it lol

[flint coyote]

Well ya if there's no new features added that makes sense

I haven't released yet

[tender shard]

lol

[flint coyote]

And I still have a lot of (unfun) stuff to do before doing so. Documentation, language files, javadoc - and figuring out how to push it into some maven repo

[tender shard]

i love writing javadocs

[flint coyote]

sus

[tender shard]

deploying to a repo is basically just declaring the repository, and declaring username and password

[flint coyote]

Do I need a pipeline for that? Or do I just grab some files and upload them?

[tender shard]

you only need this in your pom.xml

[flint coyote]

how does it know which version to push? Does it just take the one from the pom? I'll probably forget changing that every time lol

[deft thistle]

Taking a moment to apprenciate the beautiful Spigot API
Having lots of fun creating my own custom events 🙂

[tender shard]

and then in ~/.m2/settings.xml you declare username and password, like this:

[tender shard]

you just run mvn deploy and then it uploads whichever version you currently build

mvn deploy is like mvn install + upload it

[flint coyote]

oh so deploy is another stage, did not know

[tender shard]

yep

[flint coyote]

Guess I can keep in mind to change the version when running deploy

[tender shard]

i usually do mvn install and see if it works, if yes I do mvn deploy and that's it

[hallow jackal]

it works now, ty :)

[flint coyote]

how do you deploy with javadoc though? Or is that automatic?

I've seen some plugin for it

[tender shard]

you only need to add this execution to the javadoc plugin

then it automatically gets uploaded on deploy too

[flint coyote]

well first of all I need the javadoc plugin lol

the links you provided - what do those do? Since spigot isn't compiled into the jar

[tender shard]

Just copy paste it https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/MorePersistentDataTypes

[tender shard]

So you can eg click on Block and it links to spigot javadocs

[flint coyote]

oh that's cool

[tender shard]

Example: https://hub.jeff-media.com/javadocs/morepersistentdatatypes/

There are links there to the spigot docs

[flint coyote]

The worst part before release will probably be to think through all the update processes. To not enforce breaking changes for new features

Therefore I'll probably not be done before end of 2023

[deft thistle]

How do I pass an object to bukkitRunnable?

I know I can still use the class that created the BukkitRunnable atributes, but I don't know how to reference the class that created the BukkitRunnable itself

[flint coyote]

You can create a variable beforehand and access that variable from inside the runnable

[deft thistle]

OO nice workaround thank you

[tender shard]

just extend that class with your own one

    {
        class MyRunnable extends BukkitRunnable {
            
            private Object myObject;
            
            public MyRunnable(Object myObject) {
                this.myObject = myObject;
            }

            @Override
            public void run() {
                // Do something    
            }
        }
    }

[deft thistle]

or I can create my own runnable

would it be more correct?

it's just a runnable for a timer

[tender shard]

that's what I just suggested

[deft thistle]

Yeah I saw it

[timid berry]

where one dot 8

[remote swallow]

it only goes as far back as 1.12

you have to manually change it to go to 1.8

[noble lantern]

chad intellij plugin

[timid berry]

how

[timid berry]

sob

i need one dot 8

[noble lantern]

why specifically 1.8.8 before i tell you how to do it

[remote swallow]

change it in pom.xml

[noble lantern]

why cant 1.13 work?

[timid berry]

my server is ran on 1.8

[river oracle]

I feel like someone needs forcefully destroy the version 1.8

[timid berry]

why do u guys hate it lmao

[noble lantern]

i promise you all your plugins you got are updated to at least 1.12-1.16 by now

[tender shard]

i wish md wouldn't have fixed log4j on all the old versions

[noble lantern]

ikr

[river oracle]

legacy software go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[timid berry]

my player base is 1.8

[kind hatch]

Fr

[timid berry]

why bro

no one has a valid reason to hate 1.8 other then its old

[noble lantern]

is it to late to git revert

[timid berry]

ok

so i just select 1.12.2

[river oracle]

the reason to use it is stupid

[timid berry]

and edit it to 1.8

[noble lantern]

compare the API between the two and you will easily see why

Yes, use 1.8.8-SNAPSHOT

[tender shard]

are you really using 1.8? not even 1.8.8?

[timid berry]

the reason to use the latest version is stupid

[river oracle]

no its not

[noble lantern]

wtf

its not lmao

[timid berry]

yah i ment 1.8.8

[noble lantern]

even using 1.13 is godsend

[timid berry]

i like minecraft version 1.8

whats the problem

[river oracle]

more features, and they are even starting to improve performance 😭

[noble lantern]

api is the problem

try to get a glass pane on 1.8

go ahead

how about ink sacks

need to edit anvils? no anvil events

its SO limited its insane

[tender shard]

the problem is people who download a plugin that says "1.19+" and then writing a one star review because "why no works on 1.8.3"

[noble lantern]

i cant believe we even coded like that back then and thought it was alright

[timid berry]

anyone actually wanna tell me how to make a plugin for 1.8.8 since its not in the list

[river oracle]

learn how to edit maven and gradle files

[timid berry]

im fine with 1.12.2

[river oracle]

🤷‍♂️

[timid berry]

if i have to

[tender shard]

you change the version of the spigot-api dependency in your pom.xml

[timid berry]

but most of my players will be using 1.8 clients

with via version to join

[noble lantern]

then they can use any version

[timid berry]

no

they cant

[noble lantern]

can

[timid berry]

they really cant

[noble lantern]

you can make your server support all versions lol

[timid berry]

if most of my players are 1.8, isnt it better to make my server run on 1.8 then 1.12.2 with via version

[noble lantern]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/viabackwards.27448/

[timid berry]

yes

but wouldnt they have a better experience if the server was 1.8

instead of 1.12.2 with via

[noble lantern]

they will always have a better experience using whatever version the server is on yeah

[noble lantern]

also iirc you can add rewind with this to go backwards

[tender shard]

and an even better experience if they can use new features like offhand, dolphins, nether bastions, pigstep music disc, world gen below 0, netherite, ...

[timid berry]

they wont have that

they are 1.8

clients

[noble lantern]

what version did world gen below 0 come in

[tender shard]

are they all using illegally downloaded 1.8 versions or why can't they just click on "update" lmao

[tender shard]

1.16/1.17

[noble lantern]

i make all my plugins in 1.19 rn but i emphasize for 1.13+

[timid berry]

wait lemme show u why

[tender shard]

technically 1.16, but actual world gen below 0 was 1.17 IIRC

or maybe it was 1.17/1.18

[noble lantern]

not suer tbh

[tender shard]

i remember that World#getMinHeight() was added in 1.16.5

[noble lantern]

i barely kept track of updates past 1.16 lol

wtf why does via backwards have an api

[tender shard]

okay so
1.17 added the technical possibility for y<0
1.16.5 already added the method World#getMinHeight() (which was later moved to WorldInfo)
1.18 added actual world generation below 0

[noble lantern]

might as well just develop on 1.19 then

[timid berry]

ok one sec guys

[river oracle]

no

[noble lantern]

only on more than 1.18

[river oracle]

develop on 1.20 guys

[noble lantern]

imma wait

yall do ur bug shit so i dont gotta deal with it

ill come when the fires over

[river oracle]

there is not enough people on 1.20 yet I think 1.19.4 is a good start

[tender shard]

tomorrow I'll play 1.20, never played it before

[noble lantern]

armor trims do seem cool

but yeah i never launched it myself either

[tender shard]

25% of bstats servers are 1.20+

[noble lantern]

wow

awesome tbh

im glad were finally ditching older

[noble lantern]

naw wtf

[tender shard]

46,6% are still on 1.19.X

[timid berry]

and so

my clients are 1.8

so i need to make 1.8 plugins

[tender shard]

why would anyone play the game in the browser instead of downloading it lol

[noble lantern]

minecraft in a web browser ive seen it come full circle now

[timid berry]

its for chromebooks

believe it or not

it runs very well on chromebooks

[noble lantern]

cracked?

[timid berry]

its actually just a bungee plugin

[silent steeple]

do permissions have to be registered

[timid berry]

so any java server can support it

[noble lantern]

i aint adding that to my server for damn sure

[kind hatch]

No, it's a legit thing. They announced it a while ago.

[noble lantern]

oh

[timid berry]

lol no

thats adiff thing

yes its techinically on crack

[noble lantern]

the domain just makes it look sketch

"minecraft very epic"

[timid berry]

anyone can host the client

[tender shard]

minecraft is made with java, it runs on literally any OS

[timid berry]

i own that domain

[noble lantern]

oh

[timid berry]

it wont run on school chromebooks

this one will tho

[silent steeple]

do permissions have to be registered

hpw

[tender shard]

no

[silent steeple]

whats the way to register

huh

[tender shard]

you don't have to register any permissions

[timid berry]

any ways

how doi make 1.8 plugins if i cant select 1.8

do i just edit the pom.xml and continue like normal

[noble lantern]

you type 1.8.8-SNAPSHOT in replace of the current version

[timid berry]

where

[kind hatch]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-launching-chromebook
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-available-chromebook

Not sure about the browser support, but the Chromebook is coming soon enough.

[tender shard]

yes

[timid berry]

aight bet

[tender shard]

and java edition runs anyway

[timid berry]

it wont run on school chromebooks tho

most of the players are on school chromebooks

[kind hatch]

It's for the bedrock edition.

[timid berry]

or ones with playstore and stuff blocked

[noble lantern]

interesting

[timid berry]

ima shut down the site for now

[noble lantern]

nah lemme try it rq

jkjk

[timid berry]

aight

its open souce

its java compiled to javascript or something

teamvm

[noble lantern]

were literally coming full circle holy shit

jesus christ

[timid berry]

aight

[noble lantern]

java was originally designed for browsers

[timid berry]

yah lmao

[silent steeple]

  40:
    slot: 39
    item: "PISTON_BASE"
    name: "&f&lBuilder Kit"
    permission: ""
    enchanted: true
    lore:
      - "&7A kit that gives you a selection of"
      - "&7blocks and decorations to build your base."

if (!(p.hasPermission(eachItem.getString("permission")))) {
                                coloredLore.add("");
                                coloredLore.add(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&cYou do not have access to use this kit!"));
                            } else {
                                coloredLore.add("");
                                coloredLore.add(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&aYou have access to use this kit!"));
                            }

it always adds the lore You do not have access to use this kit! even though there is no permission

[timid berry]

its not a remake or whatever

its litterally the whole 1.8 client

lmao

it can join any server

shutting down the web server now

[tender shard]

You have a permission set, an empty string

[silent steeple]

oh yeah right

[tender shard]

Check if the string is null or empty before checking if they have that permission

[timid berry]

man java seems complicated as hell

[noble lantern]

it sucks

[timid berry]

should i learn java first and then try to make spigot plugins or do both at the same time

[tender shard]

Learn at least basic java

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[tender shard]

Third link is good

[timid berry]

idk about java

i know javascript tho

[tender shard]

It’s completely different

[timid berry]

i know

[noble lantern]

[timid berry]

i am javascript pro

[noble lantern]

the offsprings so good

[river oracle]

I only really like You're gonna go far kid

[noble lantern]

if you do know javascript really well, transitioning to java shouldnt be realtively complicated, just needing to get a handle on OOP

And of course java is a compiled language so your gonna need to learn about that too

[noble lantern]

same LMAO

its the only song i know tbh i kinda just assumed the were one hit wonders maybe

sum41 is rly good tho

[river oracle]

no :((((((

not eagler craft

[silent steeple]

minecraft on the browser

wha

[noble lantern]

GOOD IDEA

im gonna add this as afeature to the plugin

ty for that idea

[timid berry]

yes add epic aosid asioeaoeia

[timid berry]

eaglercraft epic

[river oracle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5zsHmE2gO3RefVsPyw2e3T?si=5eaf15825b464bea :3

[noble lantern]

wait thats a server

thought that was yours lmao

[timid berry]

no its a single player world

eaglercraft v 1.5;2 had single player

1.8 has no single player

this is v 1.8

i dont own the server

[noble lantern]

okay im adding it for that one line lmfao

[timid berry]

i am staff on it tho

[noble lantern]

"i like tall building so i can leap off of em" 💀

bangar

[river oracle]

What's up danger

[timid berry]

nothing much

[noble lantern]

oh its from the spiderman movie

can defo add that then

[timid berry]

blud didnt see the cover art

[noble lantern]

copyright incoming

[river oracle]

nahhhh

they'll never find you

[timid berry]

does it actually play the song

[noble lantern]

yes

[timid berry]

?

[river oracle]

you're not the one distributing the song

[timid berry]

does it convert it to note blocks or whatever

[river oracle]

you're downloading it from a source

[noble lantern]

it converts youtube links to a resource pack that plays with a gui and a queue

[timid berry]

woah im gonna steal that idea

[noble lantern]

its HARD

[timid berry]

but first i need to figure out how to make 1.8 plugins

[noble lantern]

took me 1.4k+ lines of code just to get something functioning

on top of the 1.1k that was there for the music playing tiself

shits aids

did a bunch of refactoring tho, cut a bunch of code out

[timid berry]

i would personally outsource development of it to unprivildged java programmers in southern asia

cheap work

ez plugin

[noble lantern]

they wouldnt make it async i bet

[timid berry]

no payment until they are done

[tender shard]

Tenofovir/emicitrabine prevents getting HIV = no aids

[timid berry]

aint aids from monkeys

[noble lantern]

https://timings.aikar.co/dev/?id=9e9db7268e7f405aae60f2ca8b11ad7c

[timid berry]

or gay ones

[noble lantern]

timings from my plugin

[timid berry]

or is that a diff thing

[noble lantern]

lemme do one where it constructs the resource pack

[river oracle]

damn that's pretty performant

wonder what happens if 100 players were to play music at once

[noble lantern]

idk but i can spam the fuck out of playNextSong without any drops

[river oracle]

wtf is MMOItems doing lol

[noble lantern]

LOL

who fuckin knows

[timid berry]

oof i can imagine the plugin creating the resource pack being the most

hard part?

[river oracle]

I have code in PlayerMoveEvent that is more performant

[noble lantern]

its downloading to youtube and converting it to OGG is the hard part

[timid berry]

why did they specify object oriented/

[noble lantern]

converting to resource pack was straight forwardish

[timid berry]

does java have a functional part to it

[river oracle]

kinda

[timid berry]

bruh wth

can i use both

[noble lantern]

FunctionalInterfaces

[timid berry]

so like javascript

[river oracle]

FunctionalInterfaces and Functions

[timid berry]

ok guys i am pro java dev now

[river oracle]

but only if you are in a good java version

[timid berry]

8

[atomic brook]

buildtools caused by: difflib.patchfailedexception: incorrect chunk: the chunk content does n't match the target. Help please

[remote swallow]

wtf is that domain

[timid berry]

epic domain

im gonna take the webserver down now

[noble lantern]

ugh can i force it?

[remote swallow]

did you do what choco said

yuck timings

spark better

[timid berry]

timings ddos attack

make 500 spigot servers make a timmings report at the same time

ez

[noble lantern]

yeah ik i should use spark tbh

[atomic brook]

İ dont remember what he said but i did everything without look their name

[noble lantern]

they rate limit

[timid berry]

rate limit what

500 differnt spigot servers

at the same time

ez

[noble lantern]

unless you have 500 machines theyre all gonna be the same ip

sooo

[remote swallow]

"Possibly a botched pull. If you delete the work, CraftBukkit, and Spigot directories and rerun BuildTools, it should apply fine"

[timid berry]

proxy

too easy

[tender shard]

Ipv6

[timid berry]

yah that too

[tender shard]

(If they even have an aaaa record)

[atomic brook]

İ have delete whole file and redownload it but still same

[timid berry]

yes

[noble lantern]

https://timings.aikar.co/dev/?id=28a74f6ec4394e25ab45cd8f0aab7b1a#timings

No way that 1500% is on the main thread wtf thats confusing

20 tps = 1500% of tick

make sense

[timid berry]

naw

tf

what is museplus

is that the plugin

[noble lantern]

its async so it doesnt actually hurt performance unless you dont have extra cores

and thats just for resource pack download, ffmpeg download, and resource pack creation

[noble lantern]

the actual hosting of the file and regular running is this report

[timid berry]

make it send a request to a vps or something that handels all that

[noble lantern]

timing sis just whack

[timid berry]

and make it send it back to the plugin

which sends it back to the player

ez

( i have no idea what im saying)

[noble lantern]

sure 2k please

[timid berry]

no use 2 dollar vps

[noble lantern]

haha

[timid berry]

wait

i have cheap vps link

[noble lantern]

those vps's couldnt handle this

shit would bottneck and take forever

[timid berry]

https://moom0o.github.io/shockprohosting/index.html

here

cheap vps

[noble lantern]

dont udnerstand how that says 52% loss when the tps is 20 though whack af

wtf

[river oracle]

aikar timings is having an anurism

try spark

[noble lantern]

yah downloading that now

i wouldnt doubt if that 1500% is on other threads but to say 52% tps loss when servers 20 tpsis whack lmao

[noble lantern]

okay but actually

wtf

[timid berry]

bro its the best

[noble lantern]

💀

whats worse

this is sme guy that actually owns all this

those are his pictures lmfao

theyre discord is 10x better holy fuck

they post status updates 💀

[silent steeple]

how is this real

[noble lantern]

its a meme

[silent steeple]

who took the time to do allat 😭

[noble lantern]

but its so good of a meme it legitmatly looks like some 12 is trying to make a hosting company lmao

they even have a trustpilot

[silent steeple]

Ok Burchard thirty seven

[noble lantern]

https://spark.lucko.me/jRB4lgsWcO

Yeah this makes a lot more sense

[river oracle]

aikar timings literally halucinating

[noble lantern]

i tried this without async one time

💀

poor server went down to like 15 tps when generating

[noble lantern]

(wtf is an mspt)

"Master of Science in Physical Therapy" thanks google

[silent steeple]

milliseconds per tick

[tender shard]

ms/t would make more sense imho

[noble lantern]

ah yeah that definatly makes more sense

tyty

[silent steeple]

Ok Burchard thirty seven

[noble lantern]

?

[silent steeple]

?

[tender shard]

womp

[noble lantern]

womp

[tender shard]

finally being verified has a purpose

womp club member

[silent steeple]

mfnalex you are so zesty

[noble lantern]

wtf operagx has built in chatgpt

[tender shard]

ikr

[silent steeple]

Real (im at my lowest rn)

[timid berry]

@noble lantern https://mzunguhosting.ml/

[tender shard]

This is real btw

[timid berry]

OH NAW

[tender shard]

Debian 5 lol

[river oracle]

they;re out of stock :(

[tender shard]

back in 2008 or so, I had my first ever VPS there

[minor aurora]

wild question: is using spring a bad idea? really I just want to use something like spring data jpa to save stuff..
Actually, what is good practice to save player data?

[river oracle]

You could use spring though that seems overkill

Plus it would bloat the jar file like crazy

[minor aurora]

I thought so too...

I really don't want to make sql queries myself :,v is there a good way to do this?

[eternal oxide]

depends on the data

[minor aurora]

Player uuids/names + numbers, potentially relational data, too

[eternal oxide]

the amount of data and if it needs to be accessible offline would decide

[minor aurora]

~ 150 rows on one (player data) and could be 10ks on another table (if I were to save logs on a database instead of a *.log). It would only need to be accessible on the local computer the server is running at

[eternal oxide]

10k total for all players?

[minor aurora]

For now, the basics, just 150 rows on a table

[eternal oxide]

I'd probably consider using the player PDC and the world PDC

so long as you can keep the amount of data down

player PDC is only available when the player is logged in

world PDC is always available

[minor aurora]

Ooo I might need offline player data

[eternal oxide]

saves to the world files so is deleted when a world is deleted

yeah player pdc not available when offline

is great for player specific persistent data though

[minor aurora]

I'll go that way first then, and perhaps cry about it if/when I have to change it

Thanks!

.. I could make an interface and make it easy to change... yeah I'll do that

[eternal oxide]

there isd also chunk pdc

all entities have PDC, world and chunks

[young knoll]

And items

PDC could be available for offline players if I could figure out how to design this api

[eternal oxide]

I'd suggest identical to online Player

[tender shard]

I just use a Future for offline PDCs

https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/jeff_media/jefflib/data/OfflinePlayerPersistentDataContainer.java#L71

[young knoll]

The problem is that player extends offline player

[tender shard]

public class OfflinePlayer {
  public CompletableFuture<PersistentDataContainer> getPersistentDataContainerFromDatFile();

or sth like that

[young knoll]

Yes but then that has to exist in player

And sure you could just make it instantly return their in memory pdc

But it’s kind of ugly

[tender shard]

player could override that and return the online PDC with an instantly completed future

[golden warren]

Where’s the best place to go to hire someone to develop a plugin for me?

[tender shard]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[golden warren]

Gotcha thank you

[young knoll]

Someone suggested a new interface that only applies to offline players

And that’s all well and good but you’d need to check and cast to get an instance of it

Which is meh

[eternal oxide]

the getpdc in player woudl return the current pdc as normal, The offline player getpdc would return a future. I see no issue there.

[young knoll]

Don’t think those return types are compatible

[eternal oxide]

in getpdc in offline player it shoudl check if there is a player object, if there is return its pdc

[young knoll]

Either way this isn’t just about pdc

It’s all the offline players data

Currently it only adds 3 new methods, loadData, saveData, and isDataLoaded

But of course those methods don’t really belong in Player

But they have to be

[tender shard]

LoadedPlayer - an offline player whose .dat file is loaded lol

so it's like an online player (pdc, can check health, potions etc) but you can't send packets or anything

[young knoll]

Mhm

But then how do you obtain an instance of one

[tender shard]

// in Bukkit.class
public static CompletableFutuer<LoadedPlayer> loadOfflinePlayer(UUID);

[eternal oxide]

Bukkit.loadOfflinePlayer

[tender shard]

or LoadedOfflinePlayer

whatever

[young knoll]

Hmm

Not a bad idea

[tender shard]

would be quite easy to do, just get the .dat file, throw it into NBTIO or however it's called, then throw that into a compound tag

[young knoll]

That’s what it does currently

But it caches the values to variables

I guess technically I could just leave it as the compound, it shouldn’t be that much of an overhead

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/pull-requests/865/overview

That’s the draft PR for reference

[sacred berry]

Is there a way to use custom colors in minecraft or just the default ones?

[young knoll]

What version

Also where, in chat?

[jagged monolith]

Use hex colours if 1.16+

[young knoll]

On wool?

[sacred berry]

Yes

[young knoll]

Yes 1.16+ supports full RGB chat

And pretty much anywhere else that uses text

[sacred berry]

Damn, I didn’t know

[jagged monolith]

Apart from above head names

unless you mess with packets

[ivory sleet]

The only problem I can see with this is the fact that you’d probably end up needing to use excessive amounts of locks since you don’t want it to read whilst the file is getting written to

which may end up affecting more behavior than what you initially think about

I mean ofc u can use NIO api

[young knoll]

It should only be written when someone calls save on said data

[ivory sleet]

yes but that is enough to require concurrent locking mechanisms

[young knoll]

But yeah you’d have to stop multiple save calls from running at once

Which is annoying

[ivory sleet]

Best way is probably a stamped lock

But else reentrant read write

Altho that does lose the optimistic read and upgradable lock part

[young knoll]

I’m not even sure what would be best

Should calls to save while it’s already saving block or just be discarded

[ivory sleet]

Well since u have to avoid concurrent writes

They’d need to be synced

Altho necessarily not on the server thread

But more like each coming write awaits the current write

[young knoll]

Hmm

[ivory sleet]

I mean you could if you wanna be simple:
ReadWriteLock lock = new StampedLock().readWriteLock();

//read (this is in a CF)
lock.readLock().lock();
try{
//file read
} catch (…){
} finally{
lock.readLock().unlock();
}

and the same for writing

Think this is what LuckPerms is doing iirc

[young knoll]

Seems easy enough

[ivory sleet]

Yeaaa, :)

[young knoll]

Idk what thread it should be run on

I don’t think mc has a dedicated io threaf

[eternal oxide]

OfflinePlayerData

[ivory sleet]

Yeah don’t they just lay their backs on netty? 😅

[somber hearth]

Hey how do I use the MOUNT packet for protocollib? I tried setting it like this:

passengerPacket.integers.write(1, 1)
passengerPacket.modifier.write(0, IntArrayList(botId))

But it crashes with an index out of bounds exception

[young knoll]

I believe so

Ah crap I also have to worry about minecraft trying to access the file, not just plugins

[ivory sleet]

Ahh shit, I forgot about that also

U got this tho :3

[young knoll]

Plus I need to decide what to do if the player joins while their data is loaded

[ivory sleet]

U block it

Like in apple

(At that stage I think?)

[remote swallow]

if the join you just like force run any tasks that are queued or whatever then load their data

[ivory sleet]

Or wait let me ask

Does the OfflineData thing represent the .dat file?

or does it represent the player data

[young knoll]

It represents the contents of the file

[ivory sleet]

Ah, then you don’t have to care right?

Just read the file, and map it to the object regardless

Cuz then you only worry about writes

[young knoll]

Yeah

My first idea was to block them joining and force a write first

So nothing is lost

[ivory sleet]

force a write?

[young knoll]

Force anything that’s been modified in OfflinePlayerData to be saved so it isn’t lost

And then let minecraft read it

[ivory sleet]

Oh yeah, well that’s just a write right

Myea

I think that works, when does mc decide read it btw?

in terms of spigot events

[young knoll]

Good question

Lemme check

I believe it’s after the prelogin event and before the login event

Also minecraft doesn’t write to the data file directly

File file = File.createTempFile(id + "-", ".dat", this.playerDir);       NBTCompressedStreamTools.writeCompressed(compound, file);
File file1 = new File(this.playerDir, id + ".dat");
File file2 = new File(this.playerDir, id + ".dat_old");
SystemUtils.safeReplaceFile(file1, file, file2);```

[ivory sleet]

Ahh

Just what does safeReplaceFile do? I assume thats a mc util class

And is this async? (If u can find it out, what thread 😅)

[young knoll]

Reading is done from netty

I’m not sure about writing

[river oracle]

        if (this.scheduledTask == null || this.scheduledTask.isCancelled()) {
            return;
        }
``` this won't error right once I reember combining a nullcheck in an or statement and it erroring until I sepparated them

[young knoll]

It should fail fast

And therefor be fine

[worldly ingot]

Yeah if the first condition is true it won't evaluate the second

[young knoll]

So it appears safeReplaceFile does the following:

• Remove the old backup
• Create a new backup
• Remove the old data file
• Rename the temp data file
• Restore from the backup if above fails

Each one is attempted 10 times

Which I suppose is one way to make sure it gets saved

[real fable]

I'm trying to simulate blocks particles that spawns when a player run on a block but
MaterialData is deprecated.. anyone know how can I do that ?

[worldly ingot]

BlockData is the replacement for MaterialData as of 1.13

[real fable]

Oh okay, thanks !!!

[worldly ingot]

Gonna have to narrow that down a bit, chief

There are a few getColors()

Though as far as we're aware, yes, they should all work

setColor() I meant

What are you trying to call it on?

Oh, you need to cast the meta to LeatherArmorMeta

[young knoll]

Smh generics when

[river oracle]

frfr smh generics when

I'm sure that won't make anything annoying

[worldly ingot]

LeatherArmorMeta meta = (LeatherArmorMeta) chestplate.getItemMeta();

[strong niche]

is this were id ask for help with running certain cmds with plugins

[worldly ingot]

Probably better suited in #help-server

[strong niche]

ok ty

[noble lantern]

Is this method: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/net/InetAddress.html#getHostAddress--

For getting the IP of the currently running machine consistent across windows, Mac and Linux? Would it ever return something other than the external IP address if i do something like:

Basically just not sure if it would return something funky in an environment like pterodactyl/docker where networking might be done differently

try {
  final InetAddress address = InetAddress.getLocalHost();
  return "http://%s:%s/%s.zip".formatted(address.getHostAddress(), this.resourcePackServerPort, fileUUID);
} catch (UnknownHostException e) {
  throw new RuntimeException(e);
}

[minor aurora]

can spigot run paper plugins?

[remote swallow]

if they have a normal plugin.yml and dont use any paper api yeah

if they use any paper methods they wont run anymore

[minor aurora]

So, essentially, no. Thanks~

[swift shell]

It returns the current ip address associated to the localhost.

It could be the external ip, it could be the external ip but intern, it could be 127.0.0.1, basically you can‘t be sure and should get the ip by a configuration file

[noble lantern]

would there be a way to always ensure you can receive the external IP address? Thats how i was doing it before with a config file but im trying to go for a near-seamless install where the user only needs to open a port for setup

guess i could always add an option that if the ip address received is 127.0.0.1 i could retrieve the config value as a fallback

yee imm a do that ty

[swift shell]

Use public apis like https://api.ipify.org or https://ifconfig.me/ip

[noble lantern]

good idea thanks :))

[sour folio]

some people were telling me to add hidden item data how do i do that?

[kind hatch]

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[sour folio]

ty

[small holly]

Sooooo I am having the weirdest issue ever.
my @EventHandler isn't wanting to work.
I have registered the listeners in the onEnable(), I have made sure that the class is implimenting Listener. I have added a PlayerMoveEvent listener as a test to be sure this event just wan't firing. I can't think of why this isn't working

relivant code https://sourceb.in/OEeZs5D1W3

Tried putting in the same class because idk maybe broken but nope

no errors but no debug messages

if I put a debug in the checkFishingTimes() method it prints

[remote swallow]

are you moving your head around or actually walking

oh wait

[small holly]

all of the above

[remote swallow]

you have 2 instances of the class

[small holly]

Tried with just the one

same issue

[remote swallow]

add (ignoreCancelled = false) to the event handler

[vital yacht]

I think they would notice if the event was cancelled lol

[small holly]

If it was canceled I wouldn't be able to move

[vital yacht]

Can you send your full main and listener class in a paste?

[small holly]

Uhhh its a really old project so don't judge the poor code XD

one sec brb

Main class
https://sourceb.in/HTiL4TwlO2
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[vital yacht]

Can you send your logs?

Also what server jar are you using

[small holly]

no errors so log kinda pointless

[wet breach]

Are you in creative?

[small holly]

paper fork

[small holly]

ye?

[wet breach]

Thats the issue try in survival

[vital yacht]

For PlayerMoveEvent?

[small holly]

No events are being triggered

[vital yacht]

Try control + f your plugin name in the logs

[wet breach]

Well test the events in survival not in creative

[vital yacht]

Including startup logs

[vital yacht]

Why?

[wet breach]

Because some events dont fire in creative or have their own specifically for creative

[vital yacht]

Do you have any other plugins?

[small holly]

Yes only a select few though

[kind hatch]

Maybe try adding @Override to your #onEnable() and #onDisable() methods.

[vital yacht]

That won’t change anything

[wet breach]

That annotation doesnt do anything for runtime

[vital yacht]

Do this

[small holly]

method is being triggered its just the event handlers

[wet breach]

Anyways i told you what to try

[vital yacht]

And make sure your paper fork isn’t removing System.out for some reason

Try using Bukkit.broadcast

[small holly]

nope tested in the method that is called from onEnable

works fine

[wet breach]

Alright you both can keep trying to figure out other causes i guess. Not sure why its an issue to test it in survival lol

[small holly]

Oh I see the issues now

Plugin GlitchMCLootLake v2.0.0 has failed to register events for class dev.selena.glitchmc.lootlake.FishingEventListener because com/mewin/WGRegionEvents/events/RegionLeaveEvent does not exist. forgot to add the WGRegionEvents plugin lmao

[vital yacht]

See there was an error

Control + f always wins

[wet breach]

That would do it, but for future reference though, test in survival

[vital yacht]

That’s not necessary for the events being tested

[kind hatch]

^

[wet breach]

Because as i said not all events fire in creative

[vital yacht]

Almost all of them do

[wet breach]

No

[small holly]

There are select few that don't trigger in creative

[vital yacht]

Besides damage events what else doesn’t trigger?

[wet breach]

Inventory events, some move events wont. Other stuff

[kind hatch]

Most inventory events. There are some events for creative mode, but they are lacking.

[vital yacht]

Inventory events trigger, just not well

[remote swallow]

is there a way to get the default damage of an item without nms

[vital yacht]

The client just doesn’t send info when in creative

[wet breach]

Attributes?

[remote swallow]

but what part of it

if i do ```java
AttributeModifier damageModifier = new AttributeModifier(attributeModifierUUID, "damage adding", newValue * 0.5, AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER, EquipmentSlot.HAND);
meta.removeAttributeModifier(Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_DAMAGE, new AttributeModifier(attributeModifierUUID, "", 0, AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER));
meta.addAttributeModifier(Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_DAMAGE, damageModifier);

[wet breach]

So i looked and it doesnt appear there is api for getting item attributes like damage

Attack damage is the damage from entity not sure if that also includes if it uses an item

[remote swallow]

a normal item without any changes is like this so

[tropic lark]

can someone help me. I had a eco plugin downloaded but deleted it since it had a loud and annoying notification so i downloaded another one and it keeps telling me i dont have perms to do /money or anything ive already /eco reload but nothing is working

dont even know if this is the right chat

[wet breach]

You need a permissions plugin and then give yourself the relevant permissions

[tropic lark]

any suggestions ?

[wet breach]

Get a permissions plugin. Luck perms seems the be the go to. i personally use group manager but others will yell about it being outdated or something even though it is still maintained lol

[tropic lark]

dang, well thank you i dont even know if this kind of issue is supposed to even be posted here or under server

[wet breach]

It more of a server problem then it is development

But its fine, you didnt need extensive help and no one is here chatting lol

[tropic lark]

@wet breach im sorry but i downloaded it and its already hurting my head

im new to plugins and stuff so i hope you can forgive the ping

[wet breach]

Np. But i dont know luck perms. They should have a wiki on how to set it up and use it though

There might be someone here who knows it better then me

[tropic lark]

i downloaded group manager im on a spigot server

[kind hatch]

LP is easy dawg

[wet breach]

Oh Gm

Gm is super easy. Just open up the permissions yaml file. And either create a group or use the existing ones and add the perms you want

The plugin in question you are having issues with earlier it should have on its resource page the relevent permission nodes

[wet breach]

Then once you finish adding perms to the group you can then use a command to add yourself to said group in gm

[tropic lark]

im running my server on sharkbite

[wet breach]

Dont know that host

But

[tropic lark]

sharkbyte**

[wet breach]

First op yourself, and then using gms resource page you can from within the server add perms to the group you want and add yourself to said group

[tropic lark]

.. how do i find it in the server

[somber scarab]

@wet breach yooo frost

how u doin :))))))

sooo uuuuuhhhhh.. I am using World Edit's api in my minigame.

[wet breach]

Idk. Not familiar with your hosting provider

[shadow night]

Is there a way to check if a block was placed by a player or generated naturally?

[remote swallow]

shockbyte?

[somber scarab]

no. the only way is to store all blocks placed and broken somewhere

and compare aftrer

[tropic lark]

ya ...

[remote swallow]

built in sadly not, i just used alex's customblckpdc and saved a byte to it

[kind hatch]

You know, LuckPerms only requires console use once and then can be configured completely in game afterwards.

[shadow night]

Sounds fine to me

[tropic lark]

when i was downloading it it didnt have a spigot option

[remote swallow]

bukkit is spigot

[somber scarab]

but with a faucet

[shadow night]

I wonder if I can use block PDC to make stuff like modded

[tropic lark]

im lost ...

[shadow night]

🧠

[somber scarab]

no spigot? use Bukkit. It's the same

[kind hatch]

It’s hard to explain, but if you see plugins labeled as Bukkit, they will run just fine on spigot.

[tropic lark]

im currenly running a spingot server so i can use gyseer plugin

[somber scarab]

great! so no issue?

[tropic lark]

and that doesnt support buket servers i believe

[remote swallow]

if there isnt a spigot option, use the bukkit one, it'll work

[kind hatch]

Spigot servers can run bukkit plugins as they are compatible.

[somber scarab]

or get a better provider. kek

better yet, host yourself

[shadow night]

I bet if you changed one lil line in the pom.xml of most spigot plugins it'd run on bukkit and I bet it work the opposite way too

[tropic lark]

the gyseer plugins to run crossplatform and thats a main one for my server even tho its really just for my group of friends that have bedrock

[remote swallow]

on the luckperms download you can use the bukkit version, you dont need to change the server version

[kind hatch]

^

[wet breach]

They went with GM

Gm doesnt have a specific version and is typically labeled bukkit but it will work on spigot or paper and most other forks that implement bukkit api

[kind hatch]

It even gives examples on the website. smh

[noble lantern]

ifconfig works like a charm thanks a bunch for that suggestion 🙂

[hallow jackal]

Is it possible to use Player#openSign on a "fake" sign created using Player#sendBlockChange?

[somber scarab]

Guys an open-ended question about design choise of my plugin:

Im running a minigame where people would be teleported to a 9 chunked-randomly vanilla generated terrain (so the map is never the same).

Lava slowly creeps upwards and whoever dies last, wins.

After a game, This area needs to be get rid off. and players teleported back.

I thought about using multiple worlds for multiple game lobbies, but that turned to be very resource intensive and I would like my plugin to work on an 8 gig server.

Any Ideas on how to efficiently and smoothly make lobbies of randomly generated 9 chunk terrain and use it then get rid of it?

[wet breach]

No. Once the sign is placed there is no option to edit later thus the only time open sign can be used is when a sign is first placed

[somber scarab]

and frostalf. I know, I dont wanna have a convo about upgrading yet again.

[kind hatch]

There should be in 1.20.1. You can now just right click the sign to edit in vanilla.

[hallow jackal]

yes i'm on 1.20.1

[wet breach]

Use a void world, each minigame is a schematic to include its floor. Use regions to help identify borders and to just remove the arenas and repaste in. This will remove lava as it will just get removed and anything left over falls to the void

[hallow jackal]

can't find a way to open said sign's gui without placing it "for real"

[kind hatch]

I'm leaning towards no as I believe that it looks for placed signs on the server, not the client.

[wet breach]

Oh that must be new then

[somber scarab]

how do I generate random terrain where the players will play?

[noble lantern]

what if you placed a sign in another world and then opened that sign to the player 💀

[wet breach]

That being the case the api is probably not updated yet to handle that

So odds are it still wont work from the api like that

[shadow night]

Or placed it at the height limit and opened it

[noble lantern]

too much can go wrong with that one

[wet breach]

Got to give some time for api to fully update to 1.20 features

Might take a couple of months but it will get there

[shadow night]

Just save the block it replaces and place it back once done

Or you could make an algorithm that searches for the nearest air

[wet breach]

I dont see a problem with this if 1.20 allows editing signs after they are placed

[hallow jackal]

i'm afraid that's not a possibility :(

[wet breach]

This would be cool in fact

As i have a game mode in mind that could use that

[noble lantern]

just go - 30 million -30 million and place em there then

29mil*

[somber scarab]

I thought about using a void world and a normal world. Players get teleported to different "plots" for game lobbies in the void world, A random 9 chunk area will be coppied from the normal world and pasted where the plot is, make lava rise, end game, delete the plot and flag it as free for the next game.

How does that sound?

[noble lantern]

if you got players at 29m blocks somethin wrong

[hallow jackal]

sending block updates to unloaded chunks is very risky afaik

[shadow night]

Imagine the players going to the worldborder and suddenly seeing a signyard

Doing anything within unloaded chunks is a bad idea

[wet breach]

The reason i said void world was because when you remove the arena you want anything that gets left behind to just fall into the void. Removing flowing lava and water is a pain because stationary and flowing are two different things and it will take too much resources to find all the stationary and flowing lava bits

[noble lantern]

yeah having 4 chunks or so loaded out there wont do much for your server perfoamcne

and 4 is excessive

youll likely be breaking the signs when your done, so 1 chunks prolly plenty

[somber scarab]

I see.. But what about the idea I said in that message?

[wet breach]

Its basically about what i said

Using regions from worldguard just helps with borders automatically since it saves that info etc

And you will need something like that anyways to prevent players accidentally leaving said arena

[somber scarab]

I was using player.setworldborder

[hallow jackal]

i'll narrow the question down, i haven't explained myself well enough. My code right now looks like this:

BlockData imaginarySign = Material.OAK_SIGN.createBlockData();
event.getPlayer().sendBlockChange(playerLocation,imaginarySign);

Now i'd need to Player#openSign(Sign), but I have no idea how to go from a BlockData object to a Sign one.

[noble lantern]

Sign extends BlockData iirc

[wet breach]

Worldguard will be better and has more features for your use

[noble lantern]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/block/Sign.html

ah yes forgot theyre tile entitys

[wet breach]

You need to cast blockstate to sign

[noble lantern]

so tbh theyre not even blocks (you can still get block data and cast it back and forth though)