help-development

[tardy delta]

and no bools, everything different than 0 is considered to be true

[flint coyote]

I would basically want it for conditional stuff in mc.

e.g. every sunday with an odd day (date) between 10 and 11am something should be active

[quaint mantle]

Yes?

[wraith bane]

ProtocolLib has a working version for 1.20?

[tardy delta]

dont think that will work with my parser lol

all it does is evaluating mathematical stuff

[fluid river]

weren't you NazarXeXe or smth

[fluid river]

idk

[quaint mantle]

Its forum name. But in discord is nazarxexe

[flint coyote]

sad :( Could add >= <= == != operators though

[tardy delta]

ye

[fluid river]

imagine

[flint coyote]

And true and false as values

[tardy delta]

currently in exams for this week

[quaint mantle]

Google exist

[fluid river]

calculator which gives you true/false

instead of math stuff

[tardy delta]

nothing wrong with 1 and 0 lol

[noble lantern]

1+ 1

true

Yes

[flint coyote]

Well depending on how the project is structured it can be an additional parser that runs as the last step if configured

[wraith bane]

Wow really? I already googled it, and it wasn't out from what I have seen, which is why I specified in my message that the plugin is 1.20

[tardy delta]

just let me know

[young knoll]

But 2 isn’t true

2 is some kind of quantum state that is both true and false

No

[flint coyote]

(DAY=6&8*3333=2&(2<5|7%1123>10|!F|(!T|(!F|!(!F|!F&!T)))))
That was one of the test cases I had mine run through but the code is super messed up so I would have to create it from scratch instead of "workarounding" bugs.

[tardy delta]

what even is 10|!F|(!T|(!F|!(!F|!F&!T)))))

or not?

[flint coyote]

T = true F = false | = OR !T = F etc

[tardy delta]

ah lol

[flint coyote]

a lot of things are replaced on the initial parsing already

e.g. expression.replace("!T", "F");

[remote swallow]

you added a bracket in the wrong place

[young knoll]

^

[remote swallow]

player.addPotionEffect(new PotionEffect(PotionEffectType.FAST_DIGGING, Integer.MAX_VALUE, 4, false))

[flint coyote]

Variables can also be inserted by a preparser

[young knoll]

b

[remote swallow]

c

thats the duration

[tardy delta]

currently my variables are functions that return a constant (like pi()) but im thinking about something like $PI

[remote swallow]

yeah

[young knoll]

Yes

[remote swallow]

correct

[flint coyote]

Well you can insert variables by a simple string replace

For Pi it would be expression.replace("$PI", String.valueOf(Math.PI));
You would run something like that in a loop for all possible variables - maybe even optimize it by actually preparsing and storing which variables are in that expression instead of looping the full set every time

[tardy delta]

mye you could but String#replace is slow so ill probably make some kind of dynamic lookup like i did with functions

ill look into it

[flint coyote]

Yea that makes sense

If you add some kind of api for custom variables that would be cool aswell

But step by step I guess. Also focus on your exams, those are more important. Gl!

[tardy delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/928419182545088522.webp?size=48&name=PepeHmm&quality=lossless

[flint coyote]

[remote swallow]

where is that from

tell me now

[flint coyote]

The emoji?

[remote swallow]

yes

[flint coyote]

From some discord of a game I played a while ago. They got loads of pepe emojis

[remote swallow]

invite me

[tardy delta]

ask md5 for pepe emotes

shouldve done that instead of

[flint coyote]

This discord has a lot of slots left - should get all pepe emojis

Whenever someone does database queries on the main thread

[young knoll]

We only have 245 slots left

[flint coyote]

We at least need that one for when you just woke up and people already ask questions

[subtle folio]

there

[tardy delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861365325336281118.webp?size=48&name=kotlin&quality=lossless

[flint coyote]

But I guess less emojis are more healthy for the help-development channel

[young knoll]

[flint coyote]

Imagine everyone reacting with crying pepe emojis everytime somebody compares Strings with == or does IO on the main thread or forgets to register their listener etc

[young knoll]

Sounds good to me

[paper viper]

Is there an event to check if a map's pixels have changed?

[restive mango]

Anyone know if there’s a way to directly pass entity IDs to packets like ClientboundAnimatePacket?

Instead of passing a net.Minecraft entity?

I can use protocol lib for this of course

But I prefer using the minecraft packets instead

[young knoll]

If the packet constructor doesn’t take an id then no

[flint coyote]

time to get nitro and join some server with cool emojis I guess

[restive mango]

Ah darn

[young knoll]

Effort

And money

[restive mango]

Oh well, I’ll just use protooclllib then

[flint coyote]

Was about to say "I can invite you to a bunch" I do understand the money part, yes. Nitro is way to expensive. I also only have a 2 week trial

[young knoll]

You could try PacketEvents

It’s similar to plib but you can shade it

[flint coyote]

it's fine looking through the values after receiving them if you have to execute something based on it on the main thread. It is not fine to run the query on the main thread.

especially not in a plugin you publish on spigotmc since then you don't know how long the connections to the database take (which will be less of an issue if your db runs on localhost)

[restive mango]

I honestly don’t really know what shading is

And at this point I’m too afraid to ask

[remote swallow]

you include it in your jar

lets say i wanted to add my library that has util methods i shade it

[tardy delta]

does anyone know if ij has a dialog window to see the actual merge conflicts rather than just saying they exist?

[flint coyote]

I usually get it to show conflicts and let me resolve them when updating a branch via the git window (right click -> update)

that is on ultimate, dunno whether it's the same on community

[tardy delta]

idk im on ultimate too

[flint coyote]

then it should work like that

[tardy delta]

so just "update project"?

i resolved it already so it doesnt show it anymore

[flint coyote]

Oh

in that case I dunno if you can view them again

[flint coyote]

nah you should have a git button where all the branches are listed aswell as the one you are currently on

bottom left corner on new UI if you didn't remove it

[tardy delta]

mye

[ashen bolt]

I'm working on a plugin for a shop, this shop will have a limited amount of each item. whats the best way to store the shop data?

[flint coyote]

and there you right click on your branch and say update

that's a pull with merge - if there a are conflicts you will get a popup with the option to resolve them

[ashen bolt]

I was thinking about just using json but I'm worried that constantly updating the stock will be inefficient

[tardy delta]

yap got it, thanks

[flint coyote]

YamlConfigurations are already cashed after loading them so you have that data in memory. It only updates the file when calling save. Besides making a designated map with some optimized data structure there's not a lot more you can do

You could use a database if you have a lot of data - you would still have to cache the data and update the database (not from the main thread) every once in a while

[ashen bolt]

updating after every transaction will not be recommended right?

[flint coyote]

You can also do an update after every transaction if you deem it necessary. Usually you would save it every few minutes and in your onDisable

Just make sure to not do the IO/database access on the main thread. Then you are fine with updating after every transaction. Also cache the data

[ashen bolt]

thank you

[restive mango]

actually

just quickly

is there a way to cast a org.bukkit.entity.Entity to net.minecraft.world.entity.Entity?

[remote swallow]

cast to craftentity and getHandle iirc

[royal hinge]

Hey, greetings from Germany, I'm just starting programming Minecraft plugins for the first time, where can you find a list of meanings of the terms?

[restive mango]

ty

[remote swallow]

which terms

[royal hinge]

The basics

[remote swallow]

?basics

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[royal hinge]

the basics of how and when to do an event and stuff like that

thanks a lot

[remote swallow]

this is stuff for learning java, spigot stuff is on the wiki

[next zinc]

Anyone know how to remove the type of goat horn from the items lore?

[remote swallow]

probably the hide potion effect flag

[next zinc]

I'll try that

Oh nice it worked

ty

Never would've though of it as a potion effect

[royal hinge]

can you look for people here who program for a fee or is that forbidden here?

[remote swallow]

its just mojank internals lol

[remote swallow]

that would be on the forums

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[tender shard]

255? lol that'd be bad. max integer is 2.147.483.647 or sth like that

[ivory sleet]

2^31 - 1 iirc

[young knoll]

Mhm

[tender shard]

yep

i always find it weird that "lowest int" is basically one more than "max int"

[remote swallow]

is that 32 bits

or bytes

[tender shard]

ints are 4 bytes = 32 bits

[ivory sleet]

32 bits

[tender shard]

where 1 bit is the +/- sign

[ivory sleet]

^

[remote swallow]

makes sense

[tender shard]

and 0 is positive, so there's one less positive number than negative numbers

[ivory sleet]

well more correctly 0 is non negative

[tender shard]

yeah with "0 is positive", i mean that the "positive/negative" bit is set to 0 which is used for all other non-negative numbers

[ivory sleet]

yea fair

[young knoll]

2s compliment

Or whatever

[ivory sleet]

yeah bitwise negative numbers are represented as compliments

[humble tulip]

It makes sense tho

-2147483648 to 2147483647 is int range in java

That means there are 2147483648 negative numbers and 2147483648 non-negative

[hazy parrot]

he said that its weird that 2147483647 + 1 = -2147483648

[eternal oxide]

its just ignoring the carry flag

[humble tulip]

Ohhhh

[young knoll]

Yay overflow

[quaint mantle]

So im little lost here I have this ```java
public boolean inputCode(Scanner scanner, boolean fromFile) {
int newItemCode;

    if (fromFile) {
        newItemCode = scanner.nextInt();
        scanner.nextLine();

        Inventory inventory = new Inventory();
        int existsIndex = inventory.alreadyExists(this);

        if (existsIndex != -1) {
            System.out.println("Item code already exists");
            return false;
        }

        itemCode = newItemCode;
        return true;

    } else {
        System.out.print("Enter the code for the item: ");
        while (true) {
            if (scanner.hasNextInt()) {
                newItemCode = scanner.nextInt();
                scanner.nextLine();
                break;
            } else {
                System.out.println("Invalid code");
                System.out.print("Enter the code for the item: ");
                scanner.nextLine();
            }
        }
    }

    Inventory inventory = new Inventory();
    int existsIndex = inventory.alreadyExists(this);

    if (existsIndex != -1) {
        System.out.println("Item code already exists");
        return false;
    }

    itemCode = newItemCode;
    return true;
}

the array is private and I cannot modify the parameter or make any new methods

[hazy parrot]

what

[quaint mantle]

Yes same

Im so lost

I have to check if the itemCode in the arraylist exists already

[hazy parrot]

you provided 0 info, what is even Inventory class

[quaint mantle]

The inventoryof items

[hazy parrot]

also do you know what this keyword means

[quaint mantle]

It contains the array

Yes the instance of the class

[hazy parrot]

array of what

[quaint mantle]

The arraylist of the inventory

[eternal oxide]

you created a new Inventory then check if your current object is already in it??

[quaint mantle]

bc I couldn't figure out how else I could do it

But I knew that it wouldn't work

[hazy parrot]

is it arraylist or array

[quaint mantle]

arraylist

[eternal oxide]

his Inventory object seems to be a Class with an arrayList in it

access shoudl be via DI or static

[hazy parrot]

you could also send that inventory class, as we cant know what is in it, but making new instance and checking on new instance seems wrong

[quaint mantle]

It cannot be static

[eternal oxide]

can;t be static?

teh class can be a singleton

[hazy parrot]

you have to pass it somehow, using di or static getter if its singleton

[eternal oxide]

it holds an array of data so it has to be a single instance

[quaint mantle]

https://hastebin.com/share/volutixaqi.java

Inventory class

[eternal oxide]

or you make teh array static so IT is a single instance

[quaint mantle]

I have existsAlready which checks it but i need to access that in the other class

But I can't without making a new instance

[hazy parrot]

arraylist have #contains method, you can override equals and hashcode of your FoodItem class

[hazy parrot]

you can, by passing already existing instance

[quaint mantle]

isEquals is a custom method ```java
public boolean isEqual(FoodItem item) {
return itemCode == item.itemCode;
}

[hazy parrot]

why not override equals

and then your whole code can be replaced with inventory.contains(item)

[quaint mantle]

Wouldn't change anything really

[quaint mantle]

Can't change the parameters

[hazy parrot]

why not lol

[eternal oxide]

looks like homework

[quaint mantle]

I don't know man ask my prof

It's very stupid

[hazy parrot]

have to be static singleton then ig

But seems wrong that prof is not allowing you to make your own solution lol

[quaint mantle]

ALL data members MUST be declared as private (or protected in the Base class when necessary only).

[eternal oxide]

it doesn;t say you can;t make it static

private static on the array

then every instance of the Inventory you create uses the same array

[quaint mantle]

ah

[hazy parrot]

or make whole class singleton, and call Inventory.getInstance()

[eternal oxide]

yep

[quaint mantle]

do you not then need a public method to access the array so it can be accessed in another class?

[eternal oxide]

yes

[quaint mantle]

Unfortunately "If you need any other methods, they must be private helper methods."

[eternal oxide]

in that case you have to create a singleton

[hazy parrot]

tbh that approach of prof is stupid

[eternal oxide]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/singleton-class-java/

[quaint mantle]

I can't make it singleton though

I cannot make public methods

[eternal oxide]

you are not allowed to create a new Field?

[quaint mantle]

No

Not in the methods

This is why im super confused on how I could approach it

[mossy prairie]

Is the repo working for you guys?

[hazy parrot]

what repo

[mossy prairie]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus

It is timing out

[chrome ferry]

ye having problems to

[eternal oxide]

Only private helper methods so singleton is impossible.

which means your ONLY choice is DI

[mossy prairie]

Glad I'm not the only one

Probably a issue on their side than

[eternal oxide]

or there is something you mis read in the task

[quaint mantle]

I can send you the document?

[hazy parrot]

but he can't change constructor parameters lol

[quaint mantle]

I don't think I read the tasks wrong

[eternal oxide]

He has to be mis-reading somethign as those two make the task impossible

unless he uses reflection to instantiate it 😛

[mossy prairie]

Where can we actually contact SpigotMC to get a fix?

[eternal oxide]

You wait

[quaint mantle]

Don't think I did

[mossy prairie]

They check this channel?

Ok ig will be waitin than 🙂

[quaint mantle]

Yea see FoodItem:
Updated: public boolean inputCode(Scanner scanner, boolean fromFile)

[worldly ingot]

We're actually missing some raid API

RaidId and Wave aren't obtainable via the Raider interface. I'll add that now lol

[remote swallow]

bad choco

[young knoll]

Is there a raid spawn reason

[worldly ingot]

Yes

I suppose the CreatureSpawnEvent is an option if you're okay with doing something immediately as it spawns, or for tracking later

[young knoll]

Can always add a pdc tag for later use

[worldly ingot]

Or just hold it in a Set. Depends on how urgently you need it

[young knoll]

We don’t persist the spawn reason do we? That’s a certain fork iirc

[worldly ingot]

We do not

[stiff knot]

Hey does anyone know why my plugin is downloading from the SpigotMC repo every time I compile it? It's causing minute+ build times and it's really slowing down my workflow :/

It just started doing this around an hour ago and I never changed anything in my pom.xml

[remote swallow]

@RequiredArgsConstructor
public class PlayerJoinListener implements Listener {
    private final BloodlineManager bloodlineManager;
    private final Map<UUID, CompletableFuture<BiValue<Bloodline, AbstractTrait>>> playerBloodlineCache = new HashMap<>();

    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerPreJoin(AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent event) {
        UUID uuid = event.getUniqueId();
        CompletableFuture<BiValue<Bloodline, AbstractTrait>> bloodlineFuture = CompletableFuture.supplyAsync(() -> {
            if (bloodlineManager.hasBloodline(uuid)) {
                System.out.println("has bloodline");
                return new BiValue<>(bloodlineManager.loadBloodline(uuid), null);
            } else {
                System.out.println("doesnt have bloodline");
                return bloodlineManager.createBloodline(uuid);
            }
        });
        playerBloodlineCache.put(uuid, bloodlineFuture);
    }

    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        UUID uuid = player.getUniqueId();

        CompletableFuture<BiValue<Bloodline, AbstractTrait>> bloodlineFuture = playerBloodlineCache.remove(uuid);
        System.out.println("being called?");
        System.out.println(bloodlineFuture == null);
        bloodlineFuture.thenAcceptAsync((BiValue<Bloodline, AbstractTrait> bloodlineData) -> {
            System.out.println("is null");
            if (bloodlineData != null) {
                player.sendMessage("Bloodline created with the trait " + bloodlineData.getValue().getName());
                System.out.println("e");
                bloodlineManager.getBloodline(player).handleEvent(event, PlayerJoinEvent.class);
            }
        });
    }
}
``` anyone able to spot why the thenAcceptAsync in the join event is never ran, doesnt work with thenAccept the sysouts happen, future isnt null or anything

[echo basalt]

what the fuck

1 - make sure you use a ConcurrentHashMap

[remote swallow]

i was bored and make chatgpt write it

[echo basalt]

Also given you're already using futures

no point in doing the whole prelogin thing

Just do your fetches on join

[remote swallow]

true

[young knoll]

Just do them in the async pre login

And block

[remote swallow]

i was doing this before

[echo basalt]

yeah but then you gotta wait 2 years to login

[young knoll]

Meh

[remote swallow]

its sqlite so it shouldnt be too slow

[echo basalt]

also

[young knoll]

Neither should MySQL tbh

[echo basalt]

you repeating your getPlayer call

[young knoll]

Unless it’s on the moon

[remote swallow]

im just using futures because i have a slight feeling ill be updating to mysql

[young knoll]

You can still use futures and block

[echo basalt]

mysql has a latency of usually up to 1.5s

in case you need to re-do the connection

[young knoll]

If it isn’t local

[remote swallow]

only reason i have the 2 events is to load it before they join and send the messages

[echo basalt]

You can send them once they loaded

[remote swallow]

im gonna take a wild guess and say i can just call Bukkit.getPlayer in the event and then send the message

[latent pilot]

is there a way to completely stop a creeper from exploding when near a player? i still want it to follow the player, just not explode

[cedar pine]

spigot-repo be down?

[remote swallow]

yeah

[cedar pine]

oh just checking ty

[echo basalt]

p much

[remote swallow]

this works too

[young knoll]

You don’t really need to make the future a variable there

[echo basalt]

ExplosionPrimeEvent fires when the creeper explodes

You can cancel it

[remote swallow]

im still confused how the thenAccept isnt called

the called sout doesnt happen

[echo basalt]

something tells me it aint firin

[stiff knot]

.

[echo basalt]

probably some hash checking process

[young knoll]

And the repo is down atm

Which is causing issues

[remote swallow]

spigot repo is down so im guessing its trying to update constantly

[stiff knot]

oh right

[young knoll]

Spigot is a SNAPSHOT dependency so probably

[stiff knot]

that would probably do it lol

[remote swallow]

its returning the right id here so going to load data

[young knoll]

Inb4 forgot to register events

[remote swallow]

josh the sysouts outside of the future were called

and that sysout was called

that is triggered in the listener

[echo basalt]

what sysouts

[remote swallow]

the hasBloodline, being called? and null check on this, but the is null was never sent

so the called is sent, the traits sysout isnt

adding another prior to it is called

[echo basalt]

I'd add a .exceptionally to your future just for sanity

[latent pilot]

now the creeper will continually try to explode and its very annoying

[echo basalt]

you can run a scheduler to set the "swell" at 0

[remote swallow]

okay so what

it has a result, but doesnt return anything

that dont add up

[young knoll]

You can also set the fuse to just be really really long

So it’ll get fat but never explode

[echo basalt]

nah your setLevel can still throw an error

[latent pilot]

wat

[echo basalt]

just change your trycatch to accept all exceptions

[remote swallow]

for duck sake

im missing a to upper case

[echo basalt]

fool

[remote swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-dead-kermit-dies-pinguman-dies-mikefoster-dies-gif-25965824

[young knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/mayweather-for-you-throw-gif-8082067

[remote swallow]

so the trait and stuff is added but the event handle still doesnt get called

the bloodlineData is null

somehow

[echo basalt]

add souts everywhere

[quaint mantle]

Futures can fail

[remote swallow]

just reloaded and it worked

eexcept i got a funny error

[echo basalt]

heheheheaw

[remote swallow]

nice

[echo basalt]

just make a

public void sync(Runnable task) {
  if(Bukkit.isPrimaryThread()) {
    task.run();
    return;
  }

  Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(plugin, task);
}

so you can do a

thenRun(() -> sync(() -> {
  whatever
})});

[remote swallow]

im lazy and just used my scheduler utils with 1 tick delay lol

shit works now atleast

[echo basalt]

meanwhile I got an executor that calls runTask

[remote swallow]

spoke too soon

its because of this i know it

[young knoll]

callSyncMethod also exists

Shame it still requires a plugin instance

[echo basalt]

pretty sure that's a paper method

[young knoll]

No

[echo basalt]

unless it's 1.20 stuff

[young knoll]

Also no

It was in 1.19

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/scheduler/BukkitScheduler.html#callSyncMethod(org.bukkit.plugin.Plugin,java.util.concurrent.Callable)

[sullen marlin]

It's at least a decade old

[quaint mantle]

How come Code already exists loop the same amount of times as there are items being added? ```java
String itemType = scanner.next();
scanner.nextLine();
FoodItem item;

        if (itemType.equalsIgnoreCase("f")) {
            item = new Fruit();
        } else if (itemType.equalsIgnoreCase("v")) {
            item = new Vegetable();
        } else if (itemType.equalsIgnoreCase("p")) {
            item = new Preserve();
        } else if (itemType.equalsIgnoreCase("d")) {
            item = new Dairy();
        } else {
            return false;
        }

        boolean codeExists = false;
        if (item.addItem(scanner, true)) {
            int existingIndex = alreadyExists(item);
            codeExists = (existingIndex != -1);
        }

        if (codeExists) {
            System.out.println("Code already exists...");
            return false;
        } else {
            int insertIndex = 0;
            while (insertIndex < numItems && inventory.get(insertIndex).getItemCode() < item.getItemCode()) {
                insertIndex++;
            }
            inventory.add(insertIndex, item);
            numItems++;
            return true;
        }
    }```

    public int alreadyExists(FoodItem item) {
        for (int i = 0; i < numItems; i++) {
            if (inventory.get(i) != null && inventory.get(i).isEqual(item)) {
                return i;
            }
        }
        return -1;
    }

Does anyone know what this error means in IntelliJ? org.spigotmc:spigot-api:pom:1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT failed to transfer from https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/ during a previous attempt. This failure was cached in the local repository and resolution is not reattempted until the update interval of spigotmc-repo has elapsed or updates are forced. Original error: Could not transfer artifact org.spigotmc:spigot-api:pom:1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT from/to spigotmc-repo (https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/): transfer failed for https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/org/spigotmc/spigot-api/1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/spigot-api-1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.pom, status: 504 Gateway Timeout

It should only print once when the itemcode exists already

[remote swallow]

the repo is down

[quaint mantle]

Any eta on it anywhere?

If so, where would I check

[remote swallow]

md is looking into it, so shouldnt be too lon

[quaint mantle]

Shouldn't be too long as is a few mins? a few days? what scale of time are we talking?

few years

Ight

[remote swallow]

max an hour id guess

just check if its up in like 30 min/hour

[young knoll]

It should be up now

[remote swallow]

so it is

[young knoll]

Idk how long the maven cache is tho

[remote swallow]

daily iirc

[young knoll]

No way it caches the failure for a day

[remote swallow]

oh yeah

idk

the download cache is a day

[young knoll]

Actually it’s “update interval”

[remote swallow]

coll you want some chocolate

[young knoll]

And it looks like the repo itself sets it

[remote swallow]

im gonna steal chocos knee caps

their the best bit

[young knoll]

Oh geez the default interval is a day

[quaint mantle]

So is it fixed or no

[quaint mantle]

bump

[young knoll]

But you can run maven with -U to force an update

[young knoll]

Yes

[remote swallow]

coll

you didnt answer

[quaint mantle]

Working

Whenever the item code exists already it spits item code exists already as many times as the item count there ```java
if (item.addItem(scanner, true)) {
if (alreadyExists(item) == -1) {
int insertIndex = 0;
while (insertIndex < numItems && inventory.get(insertIndex).getItemCode() < item.getItemCode()) {
insertIndex++;
}
inventory.add(insertIndex, item);
numItems++;
return true;
} else {
System.out.println("Item Code Exists already");
return false;
}
}

    public void readFromFile(Scanner scanner) {
        System.out.print("Enter the filename to read from: ");
        String path = scanner.next();
        Scanner file = null;
        try {
            file = new Scanner(Paths.get(path));
            while (file.hasNext()) {
                addItem(file, true);
            }
        } catch (FileNotFoundException e) {
            System.out.println("File not found.");
        } catch (IOException e) {
            System.out.println("File does not exist.");
        } finally {
            if (file != null) {
                file.close();
            }
        }
    }

Its loop everytime an item is being added

[young knoll]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[river oracle]

if anyone gets this guy to stop cross posting i'll give you a pat on the back

[quaint mantle]

watchu services

[left pine]

Hi, I have a question why parseComments doesn't save the comments?

[eternal oxide]

depends what parseComments you are using

?nocode

[undone axle]

It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.

[eternal oxide]

default is true so you should never need to use that method

[dawn hazel]

so i have this command, the check to see if the args length is 0 works just fine. but when i go to check if the args are "reload" it throws an error. ik it should throw an error if the args arent "reload" but even when they are "reload" it throws an error

    @Override
    public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args) {
        if (args.length == 0){
            sender.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Usage: /chatpolice <arguments>");
            return true;
        }

        if (args[0].equals("reload")) {
            chatPolice.reloadConfig();
            sender.sendMessage(chatPolice.config.getString("messages.reload"));
            return true;
        }
        return false;
    }```

[young knoll]

the error is at sendMessage

Which means the config.getString is returning null

[dawn hazel]

strange

oh nvm im stupid

[young knoll]

?stacktrace

[undone axle]

We cannot help without the full stacktrace; Please paste it here: https://paste.md-5.net

[young knoll]

Nah that’s not what I wanted

[dawn hazel]

its suppost to be messages.reloaded

[young knoll]

We need a thing on how to read stack traces

😔

[dawn hazel]

ik how to read stacktraces i was just having a blankmind moment lmfao

okay yeah it be fixed now

thanks

[eternal oxide]

?stacktrace

[undone axle]

We cannot help without the full stacktrace; Please paste it here: https://paste.md-5.net

[eternal oxide]

not that

there was a thing for reading stacktraces

[next zinc]

Anyone know how I can make a custom boat? No clue how I would detect that a custom ItemStack was placed in the water and then get that specific boat vehicle and alter its settings.

[young knoll]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityPlaceEvent.html

[next zinc]

Would that allow me to customize the setting of the boat for when its used after?

As well as if I don't pick it up and hop back in it will that still apply the same settings?

[young knoll]

It’s called when you place the boat

You can then do whatever with said boat

[next zinc]

Alright I'll test with it then

[noble lantern]

does this have to be used on the main thread if im using custom events?

Or is there a way to mark my custom event as "async safe" according to the doc?

If i call it in a bukkit task it fires the event fine, but calling my event just results on nothing (Not even the exception being thrown)

[eternal oxide]

you set in the constructor if its async or not

[noble lantern]

ahh didnt see there was a super ty

[echo basalt]

or be a clown like me

and do super(!Bukkit.isPrimaryThread()) to always be safe

[noble lantern]

very odd this library runs the callback async tho

normally theyre thrown back onto the main thread lmfao

so that just tripped me out why i had to do that

works so smooth though god dayum

[echo basalt]

can't wait until the dudes at work do their job so I can showcase my exponential meshing setup :)

[next zinc]

So regarding the event. What you suggested works, but it appears that everything boat related is deprecated and the type of deprecated that doesn't work anymore. Do you know of any way around this or am I going to have to do NMS or something

[sharp bough]

what could be causing this much garbage collection?

it peaks at a random time

[ivory sleet]

Do u have more stuff to show us

Like jvm flags

And a tree of what eats cpu/ram

[sharp bough]

yeah will do tomorrow in going to bed now

[humble lynx]

I've been having an issue with my silk spawner plugin, it retains data when the player that places the spawner down is in creative mode, however when the player is in survival, it places an empty spawner. I've attempted looking at similar posts on forums, and have gone down different paths (using PersistentData, checking the block on BlockPlaceEvent), however I'm getting stumped. I have no idea why the spawner appears to be empty due to the game mode the player is in. Has anyone had this issue and know how to resolve it?

[eternal oxide]

delay changing the spawner 1 tick

[humble lynx]

I'll give that a try..

[humble lynx]

Yeah issue still persisting. Still works in creative

[eternal oxide]

show some code

[humble lynx]

    public void onSpawnerPlace(BlockPlaceEvent e) {
        if (e.getBlock().getType().equals(Material.SPAWNER)) {
            CreatureSpawner spawner = (CreatureSpawner) e.getBlock().getState();
            EntityType entity = spawner.getSpawnedType();
            Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Entity " + entity);
            Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(main.getInstance(), () -> {
                Bukkit.broadcastMessage("test 1");

                Bukkit.broadcastMessage(spawner.getSpawnedType().toString());

                spawner.setSpawnedType(entity);

                e.getBlock().setBlockData(spawner.getBlockData());
            }, 5L);
        }
    }```

When in creative, placing the spawner shows the Bukkit broadcastmessage as the entity that is meant to be placed (cow)
When in survival it gives an error saying entity can't be null

[eternal oxide]

When you place a spawner in survival it's always a pig. Try setting the entity type manually in the runnable

as a test

[smoky anchor]

I wonder what the behavior is on vanilla.
If you pick-block the spawner and place it in survival, would it still reset the entity ?
Do you possibly have any other plugins that could break this ?

[humble lynx]

it's all been moved around as a test unfortunately :/

[eternal oxide]

you can also just use runTask instead of runTaskLater

[smoky anchor]

as of 1.19 the spawners are empty iirc

[humble lynx]

Vanilla it's impossible to get a spawner in your hand of a different type, they're expecting mob spawn eggs to change it when block is placed.

[eternal oxide]

yes for survival

[noble lantern]

Does calling close on this stream also close the other one? Im getting some weird file issues where things like Files.copy and FIles.move hang indefinitely with files created from this stream, and when i open the directory containing all the files the names go down the list one by one and turn white, once they turn white the folder reloads and then the files are useable again

[humble lynx]

Only other plugin I have on is essentials, and using their /give command their spawners work, and placing it shows all my debug information as normal

[smoky anchor]

try middle clicking while holding control on the spawner and then place it in survival

[humble lynx]

let me try delete essentials to see if that was the issue lol

[eternal oxide]

just use a try with resources so you don;t have to bother closing

[noble lantern]

ohhh thats what olivo was talking about earlier

thought it was only for errors

tyty

[smoky anchor]

In any case, if you have access to the item the block is being placed with you can get the spawn type from there.. somehow... probably
But seeing you try PDC, you already did that.
Like.. I don't even see a reason to have the event, you can just store the entity in the item itself with BlockEntityTag

[humble lynx]

it wasn't a problem in the past

[smoky anchor]

Unless BlockEntityTag is broken in vanilla (or spigot broke it) it should work

[humble lynx]

I last worked on the plugin in 1.17, went off MC for 2 years and now in 1.20 it's not working lol

[noble lantern]

is there a way to use try with resources while the methods inside async? switched it over and now everything inside try doesn't fire hmm

[humble lynx]

Might look into NBT tags since that's what single player MC was using

[hybrid spoke]

tf are you doing

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[noble lantern]

This: https://paste.md-5.net/pagisobade.java

its a lib but im having issues with files from the output stream itself i think

like files created do this

and one bye one turn white, then after they all turn white the folder reloads and the files are fine

[hybrid spoke]

i mean it should work if its not delayed, otherwise the stream could be close before the async is done

but you could instead make the inner part sync and call the method async

[noble lantern]

well the lib im using is async

its downloading videos

so yeah, the output stream isnt used until later

[noble lantern]

so i guess it loops back to this question then since it seem try-with resources is off the table

Are both streams handled seperatly in this context or do both have to be closed?

[hybrid spoke]

ah btw i just looked it up async in try resources should work

[hybrid spoke]

both are getting closed by the call

[noble lantern]

idk switched my code from the screenshot to try with resources and the my entire thing is just fucked

so imma just have ptsd that try with resources doesnt work async now

like only changed that and it just broke it entirely lmao, or at least "later"

[hybrid spoke]

i mean what exactly doesnt work with try resources

tried to debug?

[noble lantern]

look at the screenshot i sent then the code

[noble lantern]

from here

[noble lantern]

and even then

disreguarding everything else

why am i having the issues here

[wet breach]

why aren't you catching ioexception?

still need the catch block even with try with resources, however the nice thing with try with resources is you get a third block to use

when the resource is closing

you can do some cleanup

which is called the finally block

if I remember correctly

[pseudo hazel]

wont finally always happen?

or only if it didnt catch anything

[flint coyote]

always

[pseudo hazel]

from what I remember finally is pointless

[crystal palm]

i want to store a boolean against a player. is using an nbt tag fine in this case?

[pseudo hazel]

version 1.14+?

[crystal palm]

yep

[pseudo hazel]

use pdc

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[crystal palm]

my bad. i meant pdc :P

[pseudo hazel]

then yes

thats good

[crystal palm]

ok cool. kinda tired of using silly maps for everything

[pseudo hazel]

assuming with against the player you mean inside

[crystal palm]

yeah. itll stick around after restarts too, correct?

[pseudo hazel]

yes I would hope so

[crystal palm]

thanks!

[pseudo hazel]

easy to test though

[crystal palm]

the wiki seems to suggest that itll stick

[hazy parrot]

persistent data container 😛

[pseudo hazel]

I mean

if I put pdc on an item

then nuke the item

the data will be gone

so its persistent till the front door

[eternal night]

[crystal palm]

so true

hey hold on. does pdc even support boolean

[eternal oxide]

yes

[smoky anchor]

since 1.20 yes

but you can use a byte instead on lower versions

[eternal oxide]

you can put whatever you like in it, custom data types

[noble lantern]

TBH that one i want to ignore but you did remind me that i did this on my Files.move call and uhh that seemed to be my issue

Seems using a newly made directory with Files#copy / Files#move for some reason leads to a permission issue

Changed it to File#renameTo and it works fine though, wonder why that is

tbh not even sure why this would leads to any permission issues

But if renameTo works i wont complain any further

just odd those files do that weird white name thing, maybe its some win11 bug

[wet breach]

the permissions to move something is different then to rename something

[noble lantern]

i see so it generally better to just rename then? files arent important theyre getting shoved into a zip folder immediantly after

i just needed them all sent to a folder for zipping basically

[wet breach]

well, idk what exactly is being moved and from where, but in windows if you move a file that already exists in that directory you will get a permission denied

[noble lantern]

yeah its weird cause the /music is empty, its a fresh directory as its flushed after the zips created

prolly some weird windows limitation

after all the files im dowloading with this program are acting weird, lemme get a video

notice how my server isnt running either, its like how the files are saved windows isnt liking it

no other programs interfering with em at the moment, and there just doing that goofy shiz lol

[wet breach]

that is just the windows indexing/com surrogate program running that is doing that

[noble lantern]

so that wouldnt of been the cause of the permission error and i can just ignore em doing that

cause it was rly concerning me for the past few hours lmao

[wet breach]

well if your program isn't running and its doing that, then yeah. If your program is running and its doing this, then it could be because your program touched the file which updates the timestamp for accessing and thus causes the index to run

this is generally why I disable indexing on windows lmao

[smoky anchor]

wait where do you disable indexing ?

[noble lantern]

so thats why when i delete something everything in the directory flickers

[wet breach]

there are two places, you can disable indexing on the drive where you just go into the properties for the drive

[noble lantern]

thought i was going insane

[wet breach]

and there is the service

I disable the service

[noble lantern]

side note though so glad this is finally working after so long

[wet breach]

all because of not catching an exception to show you the problem

but I am glad you finally got it working though 🙂

[noble lantern]

tbh ive never copied files before in java so i kinda just assumed Files.copy and Files.move would do some magic fuckery lmao

guess not

[wet breach]

well the Files API in java for the most part invokes OS api methods

so, move and copy are considered different. Moving a file requires it to copy and then delete the old file

where as copy doesn't move anything and instead its a new file leaving the old one

but both of these invokes the OS api

so Java itself isn't doing it

but that is why you have to catch the exceptions because if it doesn't work, java can detect this and then has a way to notify your program that something isn't right

[noble lantern]

yeah tbh idk why i was using sneakythrows during dev that was dumb of me

top 10 dumbest moments for me right there ngl

[wet breach]

there are ways to not invoke the OS api or do so in a limited fashion

but generally you want the OS to handle it

[noble lantern]

is that why renameTo works compared to the others then i assume

[wet breach]

for example copying. You could just read the bytes yourself, make a new file and that be the only api and then put the data in yourself for the file

[wet breach]

probably, but its generally best though that you use the OS to manipulate files unless you have some specific reason to avoid it. Like maybe you are making so many changes you don't want the OS to handle all of that right away, just at the end

so you could instead implement your own copy, and to the OS it just appears as new files

the advantage of this is that its faster and causes less reading when you want more writing 😛

the disadvantage of this, is that if something happens there is a higher potential for corrupted files

generally OS's have redundancy in regards to moving files or copying that if something happens, technically it hasn't moved yet

windows usually has more safeguards then say linux however but linux is becoming better in this area too

[rose trail]

which database to use to save player parties?

[wet breach]

depends on the criterias you have

[noble lantern]

thankfully the files its throwing together for this can easily be redownloaded from youtube again so if something does ever happen its not gonna be un-recoverable

Will definatly look into other ways of making copies though :))

Ty for all the info!

after that i just gotta spin up a javalin server to serve the resource pack and this hellish conversion can be over >.>

[wet breach]

also, in regards to files you might want to look into the async methods of files too

[noble lantern]

oh theres other methods to files?

Current works already on another thread rn, didnt know there was async File methods though

[wet breach]

Java still has old methods that work but are not thread friendly and then it has new methods that are thread friendly

so have to be careful which ones you use too

[noble lantern]

AsynchronousFileChannel ?

[wet breach]

that is one of them

there is a lot of new api's in regards to files so just have to look through and see.

[noble lantern]

sadly i think im gonna be restricted from using them for this project since this YouTube API im using is really limiting for the file writing aspect

Definitely will look into them though

[wet breach]

for the writing aspect I would probably use memory mapping, and toss them all into a single file until all of them are done downloading, and then after download then split that large file into its own separate files

this is how browsers handle downloads these days in the event a download is interrupted

it can start where it left off

since these are audio files, they have a format which helps indicate the start and end of each one therefore making it less of an issue if it all ended up in a single file

also, you can pad that file out ahead of time if you have a really good approximate of the overall size

and then all you are doing is just changing the bits that were used to pad out, with the actual information

which is significantly faster since the size isn't really changing

but yeah there is all kinds of things you can do. Just don't forget to catch them exceptions 😛

they are useful and you can still do things even though an exception happened, maybe perform alternate method of saving in that case

[noble lantern]

sounds like a lot of work just for a mc plugin though :p

• my speeds limited by ffmpeg conversion too which is only really the slowest thing rn tbh

the youtube downloading of m4a files downloads and saves ~20ish songs in a few seconds

But the ffmpeg conversion just takes like 45+ seconds

[wet breach]

well, I don't know what you are coverting from and to, but if it turns out its not all that difficult, you could instead implement the conversion directly into your program instead of relying on an outside program

most of the time the conversion is just changing the file format and not the data itself

[noble lantern]

sadly couldnt find many things for mp3 -> ogg or m4a -> ogg

Only way was making a ffmpeg installer for the binaries and then using the java wrapper for it

[wet breach]

so for example, changing an xml to a yml file isn't all that hard and is an example of changing file format and not the data contained

mp3 is very well documented

and ogg is an open standard

[noble lantern]

its the ogg part mainly

i couldnt find any ogg conversion libraries for java specifically

just the ffmpeg wrapper

[wet breach]

There is ogg specific libraries for java

MC uses one them

[noble lantern]

yee just not the conversion from mp3 -> ogg

or m4a *

[wet breach]

I think it does have that ability

maybe not for m4a

maybe I should create a lib that transcodes mp3 to ogg

it really isn't all that hard since both are almost the same in what they do

[noble lantern]

from what i heard online i heard its rather complex for that conversion, though i didnt rly pay attention or look into that part of it much, was just looking through stack overflow hoping to find something on how to convert the two

[wet breach]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg

the easiest place to start with either of them, is finding the places where they are relatively the same

each have their own file format

the only hard part between either of those is the encoding

ogg uses Vorbiss for its encoding unless you specify some other encoding as ogg is just a container

much like MP4 is a container and not the encoding itself

mp3 is both a file format and encoding

so good news with the mp3 is that you don't have to implement much to find the data you are looking for

but both Mp3 and Vorbiss are losseless compression

since Mp3 is already compressed, when encoding with vorbis you generally don't need further compression although you could

so in reality it is just turning the mp3 bits, into what vorbiss produces

[noble lantern]

yeah that all sounds waaaay above any type of programming knowledge i have 🤣

[wet breach]

lol

[noble lantern]

i didnt even know the different file extensions had different encoders

[wet breach]

well, to give you an idea of this conversion

[noble lantern]

i kinda just assumed they were theyre own formats & encoders

So it confused me why this isnt just something more universally standard lmao (converting different audio files)

[wet breach]

it would be like you converting an xml file to yml file. The hard part isn't the converting rather where to stick all the necessary info inside the yml file

so in your case really the hard part is sticking the relevant info to make it a valid Vorbiss encoding

[somber scarab]

Hello! I am coding a minigame where I need to load just 9 chunks of a random new world so That I do not lag my whole server.

Is there a way to do that?

[wet breach]

mp3 doesn't allow for more then 2 channels, so you are not going to have issues with that. Vorbiss on the other hand allows for 256 channels if I recall

so if you were going from Vorbiss to Mp3 it would be more difficult especially if you have an ogg file that has surround sound

because now you have 7-16 channels and then going to a format that only allows for 2

the Vorbiss encoding and Ogg format is basically the advanced version of Mp3

that allows for compressed audio but still allowing for true surround sound channels

the containers you would commonly see mp3 in, is mpeg2 and mp4 as the encoding for the audio

[wet breach]

first it depends on the server.properties settings in how many chunks load initially. But there is api methods for loading and unloading chunks. So yes it is possible and doable however might want to ensure your players don't go outside of the chunks that are not loaded otherwise they fall to their deaths

[flint coyote]

Is there any valid alternative to overriding a static method (which is not possible)?

I wanna design an API that is based on extending a class. The extending class should have a way to get a Map<String, String> or Map<Field, String> that holds the documentation for each field. However at the point where I wanna get that documentation I do not want to create an instance of that extending class since it's an overview in an inventory and creating 40 classes just to get the documentation and throwing them away after is kinda wasted.

I could still use a static method but I can't enforce the implementation of it since those can't be declared abstract to enforce overriding them

Therefore if people don't read the documentation they'll forget it :/ Any ideas?

Beforehand I decided on using an @Documentation annotation over each field. The problem with that is that there can't be any multi-language / generated documentation

[rose trail]

how is it better to make a table with parties: an array of uuids or use a new column for each uuid?

[flint coyote]

neither. You would have a 1:N

unless I understand your question wrong. I suppose you want to possibly add a player to multiple parties

[rose trail]

I will have the leader as the primary key in the table and then the players

[flint coyote]

Then you would have

• A party table that contains the ID, the Leader (ID?) and other fields like name, generation date etc
• A member table that contains the party ID and the player (ID?) -> primary key = party+player

[rose trail]

second

[flint coyote]

Actually if the leader is the primary key for your parties you don't need another id. You would however need to make sure that the leader can't be part of another party then since that's probably not what you want

[rose trail]

yes but how to save party members

[flint coyote]

on the second table

[rose trail]

but there may be too many of them

[flint coyote]

| leader id/party id | player id |

[wet breach]

you would probably be better off in making the party itself as the key maybe make a UUID of it. And then have the party members being the values in a list. Which could be its own object and probably the perferred

and this allows you to have a hashmap

if the parties have their own objects and you made a method of checking of who is part of said object, it is super easy in terms of checking

as for saving, it depends where you are saving to really

if a yaml file, then its just a simple map in the file with the party id being the section and members below that

[rose trail]

it will be necessary to check whether the player is already joined to the party

[wet breach]

yes as I said, if the party has its own object to identify itself its not that hard really

personally if I was implementing a party system, I wouldn't bother saving parties

they should only exist for as long as the members of said party are online

and it goes away once all members are gone

[rose trail]

player's persistent data container does not move between servers?

[wet breach]

not automatically no

PDC is specific to each server

[rose trail]

yes, but so that all servers know that the party exists, you need to store them somewhere

[wet breach]

not true

you could make use of the bungee server stuff to transfer information to other servers or you can make your own communication method between each server, but you don't have to store it anywhere

[rose trail]

it seems more complicated

[flint coyote]

I don't think having a party table and a partymember table is that bad.
Also enables access from a website or generally other sources

[fluid river]

jree

[rose trail]

there is an idea to simply store somewhere in the main player database the true or false value in the party column

[flint coyote]

You could also add a column in the player table if each player can only be part of one party

but not a true false, a party id

[rose trail]

maybe

thanks

[flint coyote]

anyone got any idea for this one? Or just stick with static and scream at the devs when they forget to provide the method?

[wet breach]

never said it was a bad idea, just in terms of easness if its not something that really does need to percist I would opt to just not use anything to store it.

[wet breach]

this is where abstract classes come in

or even interfaces

[flint coyote]

I have an abstract class to extend - still I can't create a static abstract method to enforce it's implemented

And if it ain't static I can't call it without creating the object for nothing

[somber scarab]

Is there a link or somewhere you can point to help me look further in this?

[wet breach]

well generally, your api shouldn't be worried about whoever extends something, just that they adhere to the api

[somber scarab]

This sounds exactly like what I want

[flint coyote]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[wet breach]

well server.properties contains settings in regards to the spawn, such as spawn protection and I think loaded chunks too for the spawn. The minimum is 1 chunk must be loaded for every world

[somber scarab]

But you also mentioned I can say in the API that I do not want any chunks to load further than my initial

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Chunk.html

well there is methods in the API for unloading chunks, but it does depend on server settings too

[somber scarab]

Act like its a skyChunnk instead of sky block, but using a random chunk everytime

[wet breach]

so lets say in server.properties its specified to have 4 chunks, you won't be able to unload those no matter how many api calls you make

I think its the spawn protection setting that also causes the chunks to stay loaded

don't remember if they made a separate setting or not

[silent steeple]

how to send colors to the console?

[flint coyote]

Well I have this class that is used to create Events (don't mistake them for Events to listen on) I just couldn't think of a more generic name
https://paste.md-5.net/qobukesuya.java

And an implementation could then look like this: https://paste.md-5.net/ikicovacub.java

As you can see there's that getDocumentation() method that I kinda wanna integrate in the EventDefinition abstract class. However since it's static I can't do so and it doesn't make sense to have it non static

So the only way to actually use the API is to extend EventDefinition. It's not a "could happen" it's a "must happen"

[somber scarab]

I see, would you say that would actually fix the problem of my server lagging for 1 minute every time someone wants to create a world to play my minigame?

What I mean is.. is limiting the loaded chunks actually effective in making the world creation go much smoother?

myWorldCreator.create() <- this is the point where my server dies.

[wet breach]

probably not, world loading is resource intensive in regards to I/O. So, removing the amount of chunks it needs to load isn't going to necessarily remove the need for it as eventually those chunks will need to load regardless. The most it will do is just get the world loaded in the server faster, but you are still going to at some point need to load those chunks.

[silent steeple]

public void quit(PlayerQuitEvent e) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}

why doesnt it work

[wet breach]

in regards to minigames, you are better off spooling up another server then you are creating another world

because at least then your OS can optionally move that server to its own core to run on

[flint coyote]

That event does not implement cancellable

[wet breach]

where as worlds don't necessarily have their own cores to run on separate from that of the main application

[silent steeple]

aw

[flint coyote]

You can't prevent someone leaving a server, how would you?

[somber scarab]

Okay.. how would you recommend I go by this issue then? I just need a random set of chunks to be loaded in an abbys where ppl can play for a few minutes, then it deletes

[wet breach]

because you can't stop a player from quitting your server

[somber scarab]

spooling?

[silent steeple]

why not

damn

[flint coyote]

how? They can just disconnect their internet, what you gonna do?

[wet breach]

because you don't have control of their computer or connection lol

[wet breach]

another way of saying starting

[somber scarab]

oh man. So I either have to make a Schematic or have another mega server..

Hm......

[wet breach]

not necessarily

[somber scarab]

?

[wet breach]

bungee server doesn't care if servers are offline or online

it only cares about that if someone tries to join a server that is defined and its offline

however, the servers defined can be changed via a plugin on the bungee server too

so you can dynamically create servers at a whim if you want

and still have them connected to the proxy

[somber scarab]

yeah but I dont know if I have the money to host a seperate server just to do that.

[wet breach]

what is your current budget now?

I assume you are making use of a host that charges ridiculous amounts for a server

[somber scarab]

well I pay 20 quarterly

[flint coyote]

for which specs?

[wet breach]

its most likely an overloaded box and they just have a VM

[somber scarab]

not really. I use pebble host works very good so far and all

[north hornet]

how would i make it so in the console it removes all the colors from a text but ingame it keeps them? (im using configuration for the messages, so i can't just remove them in the message itself when sending to the console)

[wet breach]

yeah they charge ridiculous amounts. I will give an example. If you want a server with 64GB of ram how much would they charge for that?

and lets say I want 15 IPV4 addresses and a /32 of IPV6

and 8TB of HDD space

[somber scarab]

possibley 64 ~ 80 a month?

not sure

[wet breach]

for a VM with that?

[tardy delta]

64 gigs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897425462014378015.webp?size=48&name=pepesusthink&quality=lossless

[wet breach]

awesome, I can have an entire dedicated box with the amount you specified with those exact specs with a gigabit connection

A dedicated box is different then a VM from pebble host

[tardy delta]

i just logged in into the college server, i believe i can install a minecraft server on here 💀

[somber scarab]

an ARM computer?

[wet breach]

I typically rent my boxes from OVH

[flint coyote]

dedicated and 750€ one time pay with no additional cost

[wet breach]

well more specifically a subsidiary

[flint coyote]

pay once, keep forever

[wet breach]

soyoustart

[north hornet]

how would i make it so in the console it removes all the colors from a text but ingame it keeps them? (im using configuration for the messages, so i can't just remove them in the message itself when sending to the console)

[wet breach]

soyoustart has entire boxes for like $70-$80/month

[tardy delta]

mc server wont exactly work 💀

[somber scarab]

ANYWAYS, that was not my point!!!

I want my plugin to utilize one server. not two.

hm..

I have an idea

[wet breach]

however I understand that may not help you right now, but it is worth looking into though considering it isn't all that expensive to rent an entire box for yourself

where you can run 10-15 servers whatever

and not have to be charged for each one you want to run

[somber scarab]

I could look into it..

[somber scarab]

can you link me a decent provider of your choice that i can look into?

[wet breach]

in the interim you could try looking into plugins or making something yourself where not everything loads at once, but all you are doing is extending the load time so as to not interrupt your current server

which can work

[wet breach]

as I said above I use OVH, soyoustart is a sub company of OVH

[somber scarab]

wouldnt that cause the game to take like multiple minutes to start?

[wet breach]

probably, but with sub par specs there isn't much you can really do

even more so if you are not allowed to make another server

to take advantage of hardware

[somber scarab]

all good. I have another idea..

what if...

[wet breach]

https://www.soyoustart.com/us/offers/2204sys01.xml

[somber scarab]

I have a world that has minimum chunks loaded. and everytime a lobby wants to play, I pick a random chunk coords, load it, play, then reset the chunk to it's original form

[wet breach]

look at this they have a sale

$30/month

[somber scarab]

how does that sound?

[wet breach]

4 core, hyperthreaded 32GB of ram and 4x2TB of HDD space

[flint coyote]

wouldn't an SSD be reasonable for MC?

[somber scarab]

If I am gonna pay 30 a month for alota services. I can just upgrade my own home server that I have.

Thanks alot for telling me about this tho.

[wet breach]

I am not a fan of using SSD for something like MC, but they definitely can go with it. However you end up with less harddrive space for the same price

so might as well go with more

I have used HDD's for MC the entire time and never really had issues

[flint coyote]

then again you don't need 8TB for MC. Actually for most servers <1 TB is perfectly fine

[somber scarab]

is there a considerable change in start time of the server with SSDs? Its a major "selling point" on many hosting services

[wet breach]

true, but the dedicated box can be used for other stuff. like DB's. I had a plugin that was better then core protect and it used up 500GB in just DB alone XD

you can use it for website stuff and other things

also, its 4HDD's all at 2TB

[flint coyote]

ye ofc I just said normally you don't need it

[wet breach]

so you can make use of each of those on their own

its handy for MC because you can put your MC on its own HDD

OS on a different one

[flint coyote]

I personally wouldn't rent a server anymore. In Germany we have a hoster that sells lifetime servers. Lifetime unless they go bankrupt but so far they are doing fine

[wet breach]

if you ever need to reformat because OS died or you want to change you can do so without losing your MC stuff

[wet breach]

unfortunately I am not on that side of the globe

[flint coyote]

I mean they also host in the US but not for their dedicated servers (yet)

[wet breach]

SSD's are faster however servers performance like MC or whatever are not measured based on start up times

[north hornet]

how would i make it so in the console it removes all the colors from a text but ingame it keeps them? (im using configuration for the messages, so i can't just remove them in the message itself when sending to the console)

[wet breach]

if you have a decent MC server with decent plugins you can run an MC server without restarting it for months at a time

myself and alex have done this

and I am sure some others have to

restarting mc routinely is not something that is suppose to be normal

[flint coyote]

Guess at some point they'll offer dedicated servers at all those regions aswell - this is their offer for rootservers

[wet breach]

nice

well just let me know when they are in the US and I will check them out

I am pretty ruthless in my testing of servers so if they impress me I have no problems tossing their name out there as being decent 🙂

so far, other then PhoenixNAP, OVH is actually not all that bad at least not when I have used them several times

PhoenixNAP is decent, but in terms of price not so much but they offer more in support though which makes up for price

[flint coyote]

Well sadly they use pretty old cpus for their dedicated servers. Therefore it's cheap as you can see here. That's a lifetime price

[wet breach]

OVH uses old hardware too

that is why you have OVH Main

then Soyoustart

then Kimsufi

OVH main, has the most modern hardware, which gets moved to soyoustart after a few years

then after more years from soyoustart it goes to kimsufi

[flint coyote]

oh and they do 10-30% vouchers like all the time. So that servers is probably more like 600€ than 740€

[flint coyote]

sounds reasonable

[wet breach]

600 euros is still quite a bit

[flint coyote]

well after 1 or 2 years you don't pay anything anymore

[wet breach]

I would have to see that hardware perform before I invest that much

[flint coyote]

if you divide it by months

[wet breach]

just because its slightly outdated doesn't mean it can't perform lol

that is why OVH has those two sub companies

because they know that too

you don't need modern hardware to run a website

or even run MC

so as long as the hardware performs, its age doesn't really matter all that much for such things

[flint coyote]

that same server is 62,20€ per month if you don't use a voucher. So basically a year if you compare the prices

But I get the point about trying it out - you could rent it for a month before making your decision. For renting they also have the same vouchers. On black friday you might even get a 50% one

[wet breach]

nice

well I am primarily focused on US stuff since I don't like all the extra rules for doing international stuff 😛

so I will wait for them to come to the US

[flint coyote]

I mean it's a german company. They might offer US Servers but the company will still be german

[wet breach]

where the company is HQ'ed is not relevant, its where the hardware is located that is

[flint coyote]

I see. Guess you'll have to wait for them to offer dedicated hardware in other locations

[wet breach]

if its in the US or even canada, I am not subject to a lot of the international rules. Like following some of the EU stuff for example

[tardy delta]

cmon java why does this even need a default case

[wet breach]

lol

[flint coyote]

yeah I get that

[tardy delta]

ill stick to my habit of throwing assertion errors then

btw does the compiler now translate Enum#valueOf, that method isnt present anymore in java.lang.Enum

[flint coyote]

To get back to my original problem
@wet breach did I get it right that you would just stick to the static version and expect people to comply with the documentation?

[wet breach]

I probably would. Unfortunately you can't always force people to comply but as long as you have documentation though it really shouldn't be an issue

[flint coyote]

Well I can force them when the engine does not allow that method to not exist

And just prints an error and makes that event unusable

[wet breach]

yes but people are dumb and they will always find a way

😛

[flint coyote]

I'm still the one in control since I'm the one developing the engine that uses all those resources 😛

Unless they fork it - in that case that would only affect their server so it isn't a problem either

I mean I'll probably use my own API the most for different "Eventpacks" - I just wanna give others a fair chance of doing so aswell 🙂

Why is it still missing? :(
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Registry.html

[worldly ingot]

Because it's added in the enum -> class PR

Which wasn't merged yet

[wet breach]

well if its mostly for yourself I probably wouldn't even worry about it all that much

[flint coyote]

It isn't I just don't know how many will be willing to use it :)

[flint coyote]

Unfortunate

[river oracle]

Hopefully everything is de-enumed by 1.21

[worldly ingot]

We'll get to experimental stuff soon which hopefully devs will be willing to try

[tardy delta]

sometimes im wondering what i even was doing

[flint coyote]

I kinda hope that people will like the engine/api and use it. But you never know :) So for now I just expect myself to use it. Will still provide documentation etc for others

[river oracle]

What kinda engine you making

[flint coyote]

If that includes that Registry I'll be willing to try

[flint coyote]

An engine for regional "events". I put quotes because those are not to be mistaked with events that you listen to.

So basically you can define and configure as many events as you want for different regions. The engine got its own regions or you can use WG regions (or both).
It'll be all customizable ingame via book GUIs.

The events are code based, based on this class https://paste.md-5.net/qobukesuya.java

So basically it can go from simple stuff like "Players get potion effect while in region" to complex events like a parcour event that also stores checkpoints and timings etc

[river oracle]

Looks interesting

[flint coyote]

I'll also make a huge test server where all my events will be showcased with some explanation (might also grant access to other devs to showcase theirs if I trust them)

basically like a big house with many rooms, some eastereggs to find etc - so it will kinda be playable for fun but also the get ideas

A lot of things are already completed. It's some smaller features and some optimization that still has to be done - aswell as documentation

[worldly ingot]

Oh, experimental stuff is available already 🙂

java -jar BuildTools.jar --experimental, 1.20.1-experimental-R0.1-SNAPSHOT

I should update my tag PR later today

[flint coyote]

How sure can I be that this experimental Registry will be kept in the original release? I don't wanna change my engine to the experimental change for it to then be left out 😛
Besides that I can already do the swap to check if I find any bugs

[worldly ingot]

I mean it's experimental so the typical API guarantee is out the window

But it's meant to be used and tested

[flint coyote]

Well might still swap but not adjust code yet

[worldly ingot]

I wouldn't run the experimental build in prod btw

[flint coyote]

Never used an experimental version though. How common are bugs? Or is it usually just structure changes?

[worldly ingot]

Strong potential for bugs

Hence experimental. I'm sure md will make an announcement thread sooner or later explaining it more in detail. He only just did this 2 hours ago

[flint coyote]

as in "can destroy your worlds and all server files" or as in "might have bugs that annoy players"?

[worldly ingot]

Probably more of the latter. I sincerely doubt current changes would at all corrupt your world

[flint coyote]

in that case np. Will still backup my world :)

[worldly ingot]

But still,

I wouldn't run the experimental build in prod btw

Unless it's like a small server between your friends or whatever

[flint coyote]

Currently that's my engine test server only. Would just be a shame if I lost the world

[worldly ingot]

Yeah that's fair. Always good to backup to be certain

[flint coyote]

will there be a short changelist? So I know what I might have to stumble upon?

[worldly ingot]

Right now it's just the enum -> class PR

So, one sec

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/compare/diff?sourceBranch=refs%2Fheads%2Fexperimental&targetRepoId=11&targetBranch=refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster

[flint coyote]

Well that clashes pretty hard with my current implementation so I might actually be able to do valid tests with it

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, you'll almost certainly have source level incompatibilities

[fervent prawn]

How can I check that the block on which I respawn the player is safe (no lidquid (lava, water) and on the ground)?

[worldly ingot]

Well, you've listed out the conditions you want already

!block.isLiquid() and !block.isEmpty()

[flint coyote]

Well, no since I interacted with all the Enums via Reflection since it's pretty dynamic.
But if there are no more enums it will automatically fall back to the "Keyed" case which will then either work or die

[flint coyote]

what login do I use here? I just get a 500 and my spigotmc account is not working

[ancient plank]

Guh I wanna view the changes but I'm on my phone :(

[worldly ingot]

Ugh. Stupid Stash

No idea why that's a permission

[fervent prawn]

Thanks. I try this condition before, but it seemed to don't work every other time. Apparently the error is in another

[worldly ingot]

Are you able to access this page, Fabsi? https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/compare

[ancient plank]

Well it's bc I'm not logged in

[flint coyote]

no, 500

[worldly ingot]

stupid

[flint coyote]

I'm not logged in though. Do I have to be?

[ancient plank]

Ye

[worldly ingot]

Yeah if you log in it should let you

No clue why you have to be though

[flint coyote]

Which account do I use? I tried my spigot credentials but it did not work

[ancient plank]

It's a pita to log in on my phone so I just dont

[worldly ingot]

Separate account

[ancient plank]

You need a stash account

[flint coyote]

Alright where do I register?

[worldly ingot]

If you have a JIRA account I think they're shared

[flint coyote]

I don't

[ancient plank]

Jira and stash are same ye

[worldly ingot]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

Good thing to have an account for. Source and bugs

[flint coyote]

Where is the register button?

[worldly ingot]

Uh, probably top right? 😅 Not sure. I'm always logged in so I don't even remember

[flint coyote]

Use an incognito tab - I only see a login and if I click on that there's a "problems logging in" - no registration 😅

[wet breach]

jira and repo use the same account, but to have repo account active you have to have the CLA

otherwise you only get the jira

[flint coyote]

maybe there's a registration on the jira then

?jira

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa

[flint coyote]

ah yes there is

[worldly ingot]

You can still browse the Stash without CLA access, Frostalf

You just can't create or view PRs

But you should be able to see the compare tab

[noble lantern]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#setResourcePack(java.lang.String,byte[])

This says the sha1 has to be 20 bytes long - but they're normally 40 (At least mine is)

Do I just use the first half of the sha1 string then?

[flint coyote]

Well I did register in Jira and now it says "You have no permission to access bitbucket" when logging in on the stash

[tender shard]

sha1 is always 20 bytes

[worldly ingot]

If you login via the Stash you should be fine

[tender shard]

sign the CLA

[flint coyote]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/login?next=%2Fprojects%2FSPIGOT
i tried logging in here

[tender shard]

oh wait you registered on jira but try to use stash? that's two separate accounts

[noble lantern]

mines 40 hexa dec but using getbytes returns 40 wtf....

[flint coyote]

no it's not. I'm not getting an invalid credentials

[worldly ingot]

Thought they were the same

[tardy delta]

ah yes

[flint coyote]

So do I have to sign the CLA to gain access?

[worldly ingot]

You shouldn't

Bro I hate Atlassian lol

[tender shard]

yeah it's really annoying

[flint coyote]

"No Permission to access Bitbucket"

[tender shard]

huh weird, I am pretty sure I made two accounts. one for jira, and one for stash

[flint coyote]

there isn't even a registration on the stash

[tender shard]

i got 2 different profile pics, so I assume it's also two different accounts for me

[flint coyote]

weird. It definitly recognizes my account though

[tender shard]

hm yeah anyway, I'm pretty sure you can only log in onto stash after signing the CLA

[ancient plank]

I have one sign in for both 🤔

[flint coyote]

where do I sign it?

[tender shard]

https://www.spigotmc.org/go/cla

[wet breach]

?cla

[tender shard]

nvm first link I sent was just jira sign up

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/cla/

[flint coyote]

oh it's a google form. Well my google account has a different email

[tender shard]

doesn't matter

you just enter you JIRA name there

[wet breach]

^

[flint coyote]

Does full legal name include all my first names or only the primary one?

[tender shard]

doesn't matter at all lol

[flint coyote]

I see

[wet breach]

legal name is your name legally, even if you omit some of your first names that is fine as long as it is still legal

for example, I can use my middle name in place as my first and that is still legally my name

[flint coyote]

I think I can't omit my primary first name in germany - I am however not a lawyer

[tender shard]

you can use your middle name if you want but you don't need to

[atomic brook]

does spigot have 1.8.9 ?

[tender shard]

I never use mine

[wet breach]

?outdated

oh does that not work

[flint coyote]

Well some banks require it

[wet breach]

!outdated

hmmm all well

[atomic brook]

sad

[tender shard]

no