help-development

[remote swallow]

i do both

[river oracle]

only thing annoying abt paper is they deprecate all legacy things

otherwise the api is fine

[remote swallow]

kinda forgot to save the paste

[wary topaz]

tbh i've always wanted to try nms but the buildtools doesnt work for me

[young knoll]

The api that never comes upstream

[remote swallow]

how

[young knoll]

😔

[wary topaz]

wdym how

[remote swallow]

how does buildtools not work for you

you still arent saving the pastes

fun

[river oracle]

its fun

[young knoll]

Because the api isn’t I N F I N I T E

Sadly

[river oracle]

oh and that, but mostly cuz its fiun

[wary topaz]

this is how you do it?>

[remote swallow]

correct

[wary topaz]

holly shit

should I use nms in my plugin?

[young knoll]

Do you need it

[wary topaz]

yes

kindof

[young knoll]

Then sure

If you need it you kinda have no choice

[remote swallow]

?paste ur plugin.yml

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[river oracle]

looks like your command name isn't in your plugin.yml

[wary topaz]

i need to edit nbt data

[young knoll]

Well

[remote swallow]

use nbt api

[young knoll]

Vanilla NBT data is exposed with the api

[river oracle]

1.8 needs to touch Nms a ton but newer versions less and less every version

[remote swallow]

you really dont want to make nms modules for every version with 1.8 to 1.20

[young knoll]

Kek

[wary topaz]

true

also is there really a big difference between spigot api and bukkit?

[river oracle]

code?

yes

[wary topaz]

name one

[river oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/those-components-arent-everything-not-important-look-at-the-big-picture-nonsense-useless-gif-15836675

[young knoll]

Spigot api is mostly just the chat component stuff

[remote swallow]

we have components

[wary topaz]

true but you cna just make a simple function to do chat stuff

[remote swallow]

go add components to item lore

its very fun

[wary topaz]

o lol

[river oracle]

which line is line 25

[young knoll]

Quick someone ping choco

[wary topaz]

lmfao

createLobbyCommand code?

[river oracle]

mm

thats not the issue

do you have anything to read the inside of a jar file

check the plugin.yml inside the jar

[wary topaz]

damnn

whats your plugin.yml saying

[river oracle]

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.setExecutor(org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor)" because the return value of "com.CTF.src.CTFPlugin.getCommand(String)" is null according to this your command is null

[young knoll]

Man bought a winrar license

[wary topaz]

yeah its free if you just reinstall it

[young knoll]

Do people not just use 7zip

[wary topaz]

winrar is faster

[river oracle]

try recompiling it and putting it back in

[wary topaz]

I tested it unzipping java 8

[river oracle]

you may have just not updated it or something

[young knoll]

Who unzips a java

[wary topaz]

no like source code

like JAVA

[young knoll]

That’s what decompilers are for

[wary topaz]

well you gotta unzip the file

[young knoll]

No you don’t

[wary topaz]

ya

[young knoll]

What

[vagrant stratus]

You can decompile it

[young knoll]

Just shove the jar in the decompiler

[wary topaz]

openjdk-10_src

5 gigabytes XD

[young knoll]

What about the other 11 months

[rough ibex]

I may be stupid

[vagrant stratus]

In other news:

I'm trying to figure out a good way to handle database and realtime cache updating.
Currently it's handled via multiple HashMaps (Caching) and loading from an SQLite database (multiple tables, 1 for each HashMap) x amount of hours. This is not ideal for something that should be real-time.

[wary topaz]

why are you calling "this" if you dont even use it just use new Command();

[rough ibex]

"This post may contain erotic or adult imagery."

[wary topaz]

lmfao

its fine lol

"I checked" lmfao

[young knoll]

Yeah Imgur is wack

[vagrant stratus]

The DB will be updated. I'm not too sure you can update it via third-party means

[wary topaz]

I made this meme lol

[young knoll]

Oh no you log a custom message when it enables

Burn it

[vagrant stratus]

On start - Load database. This is simple

On database update - Get the table & value and then update the correct hashmap

[zenith gate]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[wary topaz]

lul

[zenith gate]

no thats for me

lol sorry

[vagrant stratus]

So unless I can still update the DB via third-party means, it being purely in memory isn't an option

[brave sparrow]

Let me take a look see

[vagrant stratus]

I would still need a way to listen for and pull updates w/o just reading the entire DB again. Although I can see if that's possible

[wary topaz]

https://paste.ethannetwork.net/fuhatowaga.txt

chatgpt lol

[vagrant stratus]

Which I'd prefer not doing since it would be costly with a large amount of entries, no?

[young knoll]

If it exists it’s a language

[brave sparrow]

@vagrant stratus why are you trying to load the entire thing into memory

[brave sparrow]

No

This is the exact use case of a database pretty much

[young knoll]

I can’t imagine it’ll always put the entire db in memory

What if the db is bigger than the heap

[brave sparrow]

By default it does not load the entire database in memory no

You can specify to have SQLite use an exclusively in memory database if you want

But that then has to be written to disk

I would not recommend using M$SQL lol

[vagrant stratus]

I did say "currently", never said I was against something better

[brave sparrow]

Use MySQL or MariaDB or PostgreSQL or something

[orchid trout]

sqlite

[tender shard]

so you got a nullpointerexception when registering your command executor, and you also got the "usage" message (by default /<command>) when entering the command

[vagrant stratus]

It would most likely be one of those lmao

[brave sparrow]

@vagrant stratus it doesn’t matter if it’s SQLite, that will still be able to handle queries of a large amount of data just fine

[echo basalt]

microsoft access

[young knoll]

Ah yes

[brave sparrow]

@vagrant stratus the main trade off with caching is that you have to accept serving some level of stale data, you can’t really get around that unless you’re going to use a centralized service to handle the caching and the database interaction

[young knoll]

Excel, the best database

[remote swallow]

excel, the best csv viewer

[tender shard]

but you did get a NPE although you said you didn't get any errors and refused to send your log

[remote swallow]

i store all my data in csv

[wary topaz]

phpmyadmin lol

[tender shard]

maybe you did after 20 minutes

[wary topaz]

damn

[vagrant stratus]

That's pretty much what I'm doing. Spring application to handle checking against the database, it would just be checking if a value exists in a table and if so, pull a different value from the same column

[wary topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/web-developer-mycrxn-javascript-php-css-react-wordpress-mongo-db-html-bootsrap-gif-21308149

[remote swallow]

adminer >>>

[rough ibex]

wait what is the top right

[echo basalt]

when someone asks what languages I speak

[wary topaz]

lmfao

[vagrant stratus]

Lmao, updating my Anti-Malware by making it remote

[wary topaz]

I speak https://paste.ethannetwork.net/fuhatowaga.txt

[rough ibex]

oh its not a programming language

fucking kek

[brave sparrow]

In that case you can use Redis or something to cache, and then when you update you can expire that cache value

[vagrant stratus]

You clearly don't know Spigot's malware scene kek

[brave sparrow]

There’s nothing inherently wrong with caching

[wary topaz]

just use ch mod

[vagrant stratus]

Permanently in cache, so any sort of "recent" cache is not really going to be that useful given what this is for.

[brave sparrow]

Redis can persistently cache

You would just only expire the key when the data is updated

I haven’t seen your error

Send it

You don’t want to put a TTL on it if you want a persistent cache

No you don’t

[onyx fjord]

command isnt in plugin.yml likely

[brave sparrow]

@analog basin optic wants the cache value to stay in the cache until the database gets updated

It should never be changed by an external source

[onyx fjord]

and code?

[brave sparrow]

That would not be a persistent cache, that would be an expiring cache

[wary topaz]

what is your plugin.yml

[onyx fjord]

dont use onLoad

[brave sparrow]

That’s the exact opposite of what optic wants

[onyx fjord]

use onEnable

[echo basalt]

lmao imagine not having a proper gui lib that makes you actually enjoy the process of making guis

[wary topaz]

I n eed one so badly

[brave sparrow]

It’s not a stale cache because whenever the database is updated, the cache values affected are expired

[vagrant stratus]

I could yes.

the actual db would be in the format

table_name
hash, caro_string
x however many tables are needed

It would use this to check against a whitelist & blacklist, checking specific tables for specific hashes & pulling the caro string if the hash exists within said table

[tender shard]

Yikes it took slimefun 4 months to merge my pull request

[wary topaz]

for f**** sake my friend has a button class for gui making

[young knoll]

What did you pr

[brave sparrow]

In which case it’s no longer a persistent cache lmao

[tender shard]

Nothing interesting https://github.com/Slimefun/Slimefun4/pull/3771

[onyx fjord]

my caching system is the best

it has ttl and all that shit

[echo basalt]

ehh

[brave sparrow]

The trade off is that if you’re only going to write rarely, it makes sense to leave it in the cache indefinitely

[echo basalt]

that's the basics

[wary topaz]

anyone have a gui lib I can steal now that illusion brought up the topic

[echo basalt]

I have an interface instead

[wary topaz]

wait really

[brave sparrow]

There’s no need to self refresh because the data will only be written a few times

[wary topaz]

WTF

[echo basalt]

just make your own

[wary topaz]

it would be a waste of time as my guis are already hard coded

[brave sparrow]

Yes, if your reads are substantially more frequent than your writes

[vagrant stratus]

Definitely reading more than writing. Any writing would be ocassional

[onyx fjord]

why

[wary topaz]

bro was using onLoad instead of onEnable

[onyx fjord]

less than 30

[wary topaz]

🧠 :fart:

[onyx fjord]

i had to open a browser

and load the link

[young knoll]

I forget onLoad exists most of the time

[onyx fjord]

so thats minus 5 secs

[fervent robin]

Hey do you think there is any improvements I could make to my project structure?

[wary topaz]

only use onLoad for like mysql

[onyx fjord]

managers in utils?

utils are generally classes with no public constructor that have static methods

[opal carbon]

damn never even heard of onload

[fervent robin]

True

ill fix that anything else?

[onyx fjord]

i would rename events to listeners

because they are listeners right?

np

[young knoll]

Isn’t it better to have packages names be singular

[fervent robin]

wym

like manager instead of managers?

[onyx fjord]

these names are pretty confusing

[young knoll]

Yes

[onyx fjord]

because you dont know what they do

without looking at package

[chrome beacon]

I believe it's just preference

[opal carbon]

events i would assume they define their own events

[young knoll]

Fair enough

[onyx fjord]

i'd rename to like PVPListener, RegionCheckListener, SQLLIstener

[fervent robin]

Alright

[onyx fjord]

if they are listeners ofc

but they are correct?

[fervent robin]

idk if ive seen a lot of plugins have it both ways

[fervent robin]

they are

[onyx fjord]

then rename package

listeners arent events

listeners listen for events

[young knoll]

Police police police police

[onyx fjord]

i would include to the class names what the class really does

for example

HelpCommand

ToggleArenaCommand

or at least Cmd

also what does GetLB mean?

[fervent robin]

lb = leaderboard

[young knoll]

Lemon balls

[fervent robin]

💀

[onyx fjord]

GetLeaderboardCmd then

thats what i would call it

[vagrant stratus]

@brave sparrow as for rough specifics for DB content

~7 tables, with 821 being the current highest column count in a single table.
The new DB once finished will have 10s of thousands of entries in a single table

[fervent robin]

dont you think its evident enough that they are under the packages impl and commands?

i mean that kinda specifies what they do

[onyx fjord]

nope

[fervent robin]

alright

[onyx fjord]

you have to look at imports

and sometimes theres a lot of them

[brave sparrow]

Yes?

[onyx fjord]

its always a good idea to specify what class does

in its name

or what it is

[fervent robin]

Ok I have fixed all the mistakes listed so far here is current structure:

[vagrant stratus]

Perhaps this gives you a better idea on how to go about it kek

[fervent robin]

anything else

[onyx fjord]

looks much better already

i personally add word Util to all my utils

so its easier for ide to find

or Utils

but stick to one naming scheme

[fervent robin]

alright

thanks for the help

[onyx fjord]

np

[echo basalt]

I put my lib stuff on my utils package

and have like individual folders

so I can copypaste them across projects

[vagrant stratus]

Connections themselves will be at most 2. 1 for the webserver and 1 for whatever program I use to update the DB itself.

It's more reading/writing and that slowing down which could be an issue.
The webserver will only read, but it'll do a fuck ton of it most likely.
Write on the other hand could be often, ocassional, or rare w/ small-large updates for each update

[eternal oxide]

be careful using the same package names for utils across packages

[echo basalt]

I don't do that

it's always me.illusion.project.utils

[eternal oxide]

good. I got hit by that one in the past

[echo basalt]

I've been doing java for long enough

trust me on this one

[vagrant stratus]

Realistically it should also be setup to allow multiple clients to read from it w/o issues, e.g. if I have to run multiple instances of the webserver due to traffic

[opal carbon]

forgot this once with nms stuff but realized that it would probably break something before it even became an issue

got lucky though

[remote swallow]

dev.illusionthe.project.utils when

[echo basalt]

I still want to buy illusion.dev

and I can

but I don't want to fork over 150$

[remote swallow]

ask ur boss for a bonus

[echo basalt]

last time he gave me a bonus it was 7 grand in crypto

that got stolen while I was playing apex

[young knoll]

It’s now worth $10.57 anyway

[echo basalt]

I sent him a goofy figurine a couple months ago and he just sent me a video of him at disneyland pointing at goofy and asking "is your name <my real name>"

[echo basalt]

2 grand

it started at 400$

went to 7k in like 2 days

and now it's chilling

dude's fine getting us all any kind of subscriptions we want

I asked for a 1 year copy of yourkit and he just paid no questions asked

but a domain name?

[young knoll]

Weird man

[echo basalt]

he just has a ton of cash and wants to leave something for the community to enjoy

and by a ton I mean like

he offered to buy me a kitted out macbook just because

[young knoll]

What’s he leaving

[echo basalt]

a minecraft server

that's been in the works for over a year

[young knoll]

I see

Is it hypixel 2

[echo basalt]

nope

I do want to expand into minigames but like

can't bother writing countdown logic

[young knoll]

I like how that’s the limiting factor

Just a countdown

[echo basalt]

it's just

braindead code

unlike what I do in the day-to-day

my task for this week was to write uhh

[cold pawn]

Anyone know how I can fix this Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.core.Holder.a()" because "var0" is null error? I'm trying to create a respawn packet using protocolLib, to change a players skin, using it to refresh the player. I've tried various methods but it seems that I always get this issue. Any thoughts? Also im using 1.18, in-case you were wondering.

[echo basalt]

player housing with furniture

[remote swallow]

im braindead

[young knoll]

Interesting

[echo basalt]

did it in like an hour

[young knoll]

I’m curious what this never before seen tech is

[remote swallow]

illusion what server is it

[echo basalt]

something to do with the ability to place images on maps with any block offset

or the ability to play passpartout in minecraft and start painting shit

or maybe the concept of having a spray can and doing grafitti on any wall

[brave sparrow]

I was thinking you would have the web server read and write, and that way you could delete from the cache when a write occurs

[remote swallow]

oh alex, now that someone bought mineplex do you still work there or are you not in it

[brave sparrow]

I still work there

[echo basalt]

or how we use subdomains to track players

[echo basalt]

is the codebase as bad as the leak seems?

[fading bear]

Anyone knows how to create placeholder players like in the adventurelib tablist example? MCC Island did the same too, do I need to use Protocollib?

[brave sparrow]

That leak is several years old lol

[echo basalt]

true

but the code's ass

so did you guys keep the tech debt or did y'all nuke most of it

[brave sparrow]

Most of the code in that leak is no longer used or even present in the repo

[echo basalt]

because it was quite a big project

[remote swallow]

set the footer and header in a scheduler with papi

[brave sparrow]

It’s still a rather large project but it’s been pretty substantially redone

[fading bear]

I don't want to change footer/header, I want to add placeholder players

[echo basalt]

bet

I remember applying a few years ago when I was a clown and never getting a response

I wonder if y'all still looking

[brave sparrow]

Well we’re still getting back up and running at the moment

[echo basalt]

and if y'all pay more than 15$/hr

[hybrid spoke]

they are looking for good devs

[young knoll]

Gottem

[echo basalt]

[young knoll]

I remember playing bedrock mineplex

Mob arena is really easy when the mobs move at 1 block per miniute

[echo basalt]

It's alright I'm still in time to become competition

[brave sparrow]

When I was a starter dev several years ago I think our hourly rate for that was around $20/hour

[fading bear]

Like, I want to add those empty PfPs with no pseudo to show how many slots are still open

[young knoll]

Then why did you circle the header and footer

[fading bear]

I didn't, it's the image that came in the adventurelib docs as i said

[young knoll]

I see

Well yes you need to use packets

[fading bear]

Is there even docs for that?

[echo basalt]

lol no

[hybrid spoke]

insert a screaming md5 here

[vagrant stratus]

tbf I don't think there's proper API for it

[fading bear]

Well, I found this, but that's all
https://wiki.vg/Protocol

Wiki.vg is such a great resource for so many things but there's a lot of errors as i recall

[hybrid spoke]

that is indeed all

[fading bear]

Well, i guess I'll do that one day... When i have time

[vagrant stratus]

How hard would it be to add the ability to create empty tab list slots to the API @worldly ingot ?

[fading bear]

Also, again if anoyone knows, I'd be really interested to know how to create my own plugin APIs. Like a plugin that manage chat, another one for queuing system, etc... So when I create a new project i just have to add the ones I need and I have already half the work done

[echo basalt]

It's called

writing good code

[young knoll]

I just have a standard library that I shade into everything

[echo basalt]

I have a bunch of folders I copypaste

[young knoll]

It’s not meant for specifics like chat tho

[vagrant stratus]

^ most likely what I'll end up doing too

[young knoll]

Ew copy and paste is effort

[echo basalt]

just select the folder

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, do a python script you nerd

[young knoll]

Effort

Just shade

[fading bear]

lmao, I don't know how to do all this

[vagrant stratus]

Assembly code 100%

Learn assembly just to copy folders to a specified directory

[fading bear]

Not worth it

[young knoll]

I feel there are at least 20 better ways to do that Xd

[vagrant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/but-it-was-worth-it-worth-it-i-have-no-regrets-worthwhile-it-is-worth-gif-15140438

[fading bear]

I tried and it took me 3 hours to get 5 colored pixels on the screen

[whole stirrup]

When making a plugin is there any reason to use the Paper API instead of the normal Spigot API as a maven dependency?

[glad prawn]

Is there a way to retrieve the uuid from the no-player event?

[young knoll]

If you use the paper api it won’t run on spigot

[young knoll]

What uuid

[vagrant stratus]

And a decent-ish sized chunk still used spigot

[whole stirrup]

Does the Paper API have stuff the regular Spigot API doesn't

[young knoll]

Yes

[glad prawn]

Uuid from player..

[vagrant stratus]

But they're also stupid and make dumb choices

[young knoll]

What event

[echo basalt]

wdym no-player event

PlayerQuit?

[young knoll]

PlayerNotExistEvent

[echo basalt]

PlayerThanosSnapEvent

[vagrant stratus]

16 servers use Yatopia, tf

[young knoll]

Lol

[glad prawn]

i mean from events not have getPlayer or getEntity option.

[echo basalt]

probably the devs making more malware

[vagrant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

[echo basalt]

Why would you need an entity in that context?

[young knoll]

Damn cat server is close to Bukkit

Idk which is worse

[vagrant stratus]

Mohist

[young knoll]

Fair but at least that is lower

[vagrant stratus]

Getting there

[quiet ice]

Mohist? Isn't that age-old technology?

[vagrant stratus]

yes

735 servers are using it though kek

[quiet ice]

Same with catserver. Is that even maintained these days?

[vagrant stratus]

1426 for catserver

[quiet ice]

Though I guess bukkit isn't maintained either

[vagrant stratus]

I think it's updated though

Yea, it's got a 1.19.4 branch

[young knoll]

Isn’t magma the more active one

Idfk

[vagrant stratus]

The 1.16.5 branch was last updated 2 weeks ago

[glad prawn]

I save player uuid to Map<UUID, Generator> and from event i get Generator from that uuid.

[young knoll]

What event

What generator

What

[vagrant stratus]

Still no proper 1.19.4 or 1.20 branch for CatServer

[glad prawn]

CustomOregen plugin lmao

[young knoll]

Purpur is a fork of paper

That does… idfk actually

[vagrant stratus]

no idea either lmao

[quiet ice]

Sponge will support 1.19.4 via SpongeForge though as it seems like

[vagrant stratus]

it just.... exists

[young knoll]

Good for sponge

I wish bStats wasn’t dead :(

[vagrant stratus]

It's dead?

what

[young knoll]

Idk seems pretty inactive

Afaik you still can’t make bar graphs or remove default graphs

[vagrant stratus]

I mean.. it's still up, unless you mean the repo

[remote swallow]

we still dont have bar graphs

[young knoll]

Okay well

Inactive

[vagrant stratus]

oh

well

get rekt nerds

[young knoll]

We need bStats 2

[remote swallow]

bar graphs would be great be feature lists

[young knoll]

cStats

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, a lot of stuff is just a fork of paper

[remote swallow]

you can do it

[young knoll]

No thanks I don’t have the money for the servers

[vagrant stratus]

Even I'm doing a paper fork kek

[young knoll]

There’s like 19484737374 forks of paper and spigot

[remote swallow]

you have enough to get an free aorcle

[vagrant stratus]

*I don't want too, but it's the most popular server software lmao

[young knoll]

Ah yes one oracle VM for all that traffic and storage

[vagrant stratus]

Do it

you won't

https://tenor.com/view/burn-notice-michael-weston-jeffrey-donovan-gun-gun-cock-gif-18299992

do it

https://tenor.com/view/angry-annoyed-stressed-gif-26272714

https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-idk-i-dunno-i-dont-know-no-clue-gif-5178996

[young knoll]

You see what you do is remove a bunch of vanilla features

Then advertise that it’s faster

[vagrant stratus]

Okay tbf I'm not doing that lmao

[young knoll]

0/10

Won’t buy

[vagrant stratus]

It'll be free kek

[remote swallow]

wont download

[vagrant stratus]

I have an Anti-Malware: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spigot-anti-malware.64982/
Said Anti-Malware has reached limitations in certain situations, hence paper fork to make stuff easier

Paper: 78,602 servers
Spigot: 36,600 servers

If I want the highest chance of it being adopted, forking paper is the way to go lol

[young knoll]

We need with a gun

[vagrant stratus]

It goes from Oh fuck, API is missing to Oh hey, extra security AND it's drag & drop?

Third-Party stuff related to running the server, easier to just make a paper fork than fuck around w/ it

[remote swallow]

@worldly ingot we need ur art skills

[vagrant stratus]

The problems I'm having? Yes, for what I'm trying to do specifically. It happens to be that the easiest route is just forking paper instead of figuring out how to do the same thing but third-party

bytebuddy fucking sucks

[young knoll]

Add mixins and I’ll use it

Kek

[vagrant stratus]

but why lmao

[young knoll]

Yes

[vagrant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[vagrant stratus]

It's good up to a point, but it's easier to just fork paper and supply that

[young knoll]

Just learn raw asm

[vagrant stratus]

That wouldn't help

I have to make changes at arbitrary points within methods... in multiple classes

Easiest to just fork paper

[young knoll]

Mixins can do that

Heh

[vagrant stratus]

I'd still need a paper fork + mixins, might as well just make a paper patch that others can use

[young knoll]

Shh

Not the point

[vagrant stratus]

You ain't getting mixins kek

[young knoll]

Fine I’ll just use ignite

Or PR things like a peasant

[vagrant stratus]

Oh yea, I need to add a bunch of classes too and make that shit work

It's just not worth it lmao

[young knoll]

Fair

I mean uhh

Back in my day we made entire games in assembly

[vagrant stratus]

Yea. If Paper wasn't so easy to fork, I'd deal with it buut it's not worth it lmao

Some will use it, I highly doubt it'll be mainstream. It's just meant to give extra protection while still supporting the most common server software

[young knoll]

Call it condom

[vagrant stratus]

The base software (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spigot-anti-malware.64982/) is more likely to be used by the majority kek

[merry viper]

https://paste.md-5.net/coyepofuwa.java

anyone know why this return AIR instead the item i holding? if i print itemJson to console it return the json of the item

{"type":"minecraft:diamond_sword","item-meta":{"enchants":["DAMAGE_ALL:5"]}}

[lusty forum]

What's the best way to connect Minecraft with discord? Want to create a "connect" command which sends a link to the plater and he can click on autorisize on the discord website (oauth I think) but I don't understand it...

And than a mySQL table with the Minecraft uid and the discord id

Or is there a better way?

[tender pond]

Anyone know the best way to detect whether a Sign is waxed or not? I can't see any new additions to the API to check whether a sign is waxed or not in 1.20

[young knoll]

Should be isEditable

[robust zenith]

Good evening everybody. I am trying to do a throwable axe or something like that but i do not want any help from the internet, i just want to understand what's going wrong

https://hastebin.com/share/dulapeqiqe.typescript

[tender pond]

Ahh thank you, will give it a go

[opal carbon]

most plugins give a code

so you do /link on mc, it gives you a code, and you dm it to the bot or do a command on the discord bot and then yay

[echo basalt]

.

bruhz

[copper scaffold]

This is the code from the enchantment:

Enchantment TELEPATHY = new EnchantmentWrapper("telepathy", "Telepathy", 1);

Enchantment Table code

@EventHandler
    public void onEnchant(PrepareItemEnchantEvent e){

        if(e.getItem().getType() == Material.NETHERITE_SHOVEL){
            if(Math.random() < 0.2){
                e.getOffers()[1] = new EnchantmentOffer(CustomEnchants.TELEPATHY, 10, 1);
            }
        }

    }

[young knoll]

Okay

And

[copper scaffold]

How can i make it work that it is shown in the enchanting table?

[young knoll]

You can’t

Custom enchantments won’t display properly

Because the client doesn’t understand them

[copper scaffold]

oh okaz

thx

[sharp bough]

is there any way to save an inventory to sql other than serializing each item and saving it into a row with a slot id? if im not mistaken i remember seeing a serializer that would take a full inventory and convert it to base64 by converting each item to byte array

public static byte[] serialize(ItemStack itemStack) throws IOException {
        itemStack = NBTIManager.cleanItemOfGuiTag(itemStack);

        ByteArrayOutputStream outputStream = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
        BukkitObjectOutputStream dataOutput = new BukkitObjectOutputStream(outputStream);
        dataOutput.writeObject(itemStack);
        dataOutput.close();
        return outputStream.toByteArray();
    }

    public static ItemStack deserialize(byte[] data) throws IOException, ClassNotFoundException {
        ByteArrayInputStream inputStream = new ByteArrayInputStream(data);
        BukkitObjectInputStream dataInput = new BukkitObjectInputStream(inputStream);
        ItemStack itemStack = (ItemStack) dataInput.readObject();
        dataInput.close();
        return itemStack;
    }

thats what i have, but im looking for a better option

i need to save the items in a sql database that only accepts primitive types

using sqlite

[drowsy helm]

Just use Inventory#getContents

Then serialize the array

[sharp bough]

thats what i already have

and i want something better if theres anything

[noble lantern]

advocate for mongodb and pojo classes here

[drowsy helm]

Whats better then that?

[noble lantern]

pojo is

[young knoll]

But my host doesn’t offer free mongodb server

[noble lantern]

atlas does

[young knoll]

:(

[noble lantern]

idk if any pojo -> sql exists though

[drowsy helm]

Idk why you wanna improve something that already works

[noble lantern]

sounds complex

[young knoll]

I mean you could cheat

[noble lantern]

https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage/room

huh

[young knoll]

And just turn it all into bytes

But at that point why use sql

[noble lantern]

shiiit this is gonna make me use mysql again

wtf

[drowsy helm]

Download it from the java website same way you would on windows

[young knoll]

JREs got twitter canceled

[noble lantern]

back in my day we had to install jre and jdk's seperatly 👴

i remember that being a thing when i first launched a pc

couldnt get it working for like 3 hours and i was crying my eyes out

[young knoll]

I remember when java 8 was the modern java :(

And 1.8 was the modern mc

[noble lantern]

1.7 was a bangar i wish i was old enough to know how to mod back then

[drowsy helm]

Python superior? Lmao

[noble lantern]

who remembers Flying Squid JS

i think its still in dev too

https://github.com/PrismarineJS/flying-squid

ahaha

[worldly ingot]

There are a bunch of those

[noble lantern]

i literally just linked one

oh

[worldly ingot]

You're wanting Glowstone

Glowstone is the only other ground-up, no Mojang code server that implements the Bukkit API

[hardy comet]

hi, i'm just starting out and i'm using the "Creating a blank Spigot plugin in Eclipse" guide. however after step 5, i get the error "The type org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin is not accessible"
i've already tried searching online for a fix, and i made sure to include the spigot api shaded file in the project (it's in "Referenced Libraries" if that helps)

[young knoll]

Is glowstone still active

[worldly ingot]

I want to say they're still stuck on 1.12

[vagrant stratus]

Probably are

[young knoll]

Sad

[worldly ingot]

Active, yes, but not up to date

[vagrant stratus]

https://github.com/GlowstoneMC/Glowstone I see 1.19 references

[drowsy helm]

Your imports aren’t correct

[young knoll]

1.19 is so 4 days ago

[vagrant stratus]

They're just super slow lmao

Not even datapacks, just everything in general. e.g. entities, packets, inventory, modding api, etc, etc, etc

[drowsy helm]

Show your proj setup

[vagrant stratus]

It'll be multiple version before everything is fully implemented

[worldly ingot]

It's also a very incomplete project. I don't believe everything is done

[vagrant stratus]

It's not

[worldly ingot]

There may be some non-functioning blocks, entities, or other features

[vagrant stratus]

Glowstone is not finished. Nothing is guaranteed to work, though many things are likely to. If in doubt, file an issue.

[hardy comet]

sure, but it says i need to link a spigot account which i don't have yet so it'll be a bit

[young knoll]

Nah it’s coming in 1.73

[hardy comet]

(for sharing images)

[worldly ingot]

I mean keeping up with Mojang is very difficult. It's not easy to write a server from the ground up, and not only that, keep up with Bukkit which commits practically daily

[young knoll]

?img

[undone axle]

Not verified? Upload screenshots here: https://prnt.sc/

[drowsy helm]

Yep

[vagrant stratus]

Plugin API i.e. modding the server to impl things

[sullen marlin]

java edition discontinued when

[coarse finch]

so i forked a discontinued repository and updated the namespace (from ac.grim.grimac to me.alecjensen.grumm) and now im getting this error. org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: Cannot find main class 'me.alecjensen.grumm'
i have combed through the code and i cant see anything that would be causing this

[noble lantern]

all of us out of our side hustles when

[sullen marlin]

need to edit plugin.yml

[vagrant stratus]

md_5 server software when

[young knoll]

If they cancel java edition I’ll have to learn cpp

Well not really behaviour packs are pretty good

[noble lantern]

is bedrock on cpp? or c#?

[young knoll]

cpp

[sullen marlin]

c++

[coarse finch]

i think i figured it out

[noble lantern]

nooo why not c# fawk

[sullen marlin]

ridiculously fragile as a result

[vagrant stratus]

You have to implement the entire protocol for it to be complete 😄

[drowsy helm]

Plugin.yml

[sullen marlin]

look at it wrong and the whole thing crashes

[coarse finch]

yeah i found it lol

[vagrant stratus]

no

[noble lantern]

but 64 render distance no fps drops11!!!!!!1!

[vagrant stratus]

ban

[coarse finch]

no

[vagrant stratus]

Choco, we need another kick

[young knoll]

Man everyone is a hoe for rust these days

[sullen marlin]

microsoft not porting java to console/mobile was their biggest mistake

[noble lantern]

minecraft needs LODs soooo bad

[sullen marlin]

having two versions of the game is ridiculous

[worldly ingot]

Possible? Yeah absolutely. But you're going to be working around the clock for at least a year or two before you even reach parity with 1.20, and by that point they'll have released 1.22

And that's also assuming you're writing perfect code with no bugs

[young knoll]

Which I always am

[hardy comet]

is this what you're looking for? sorry, i'm a bit uncertain
https://prnt.sc/d6B8T5gW4q1Y

[vagrant stratus]

I mean, you'd have more luck going commit by commit for bukkit & spigot, and then just better implementing those

but you'd still need to impl base MC stuff kek

You still have to impl a fuck ton of stuff 😄

[drowsy helm]

Looks fine to me

[vagrant stratus]

That's the fun part, packets change

In newer versions, yes

Some get dropped, renamed, modified, etc, etc

hell even the world format changes

[sullen marlin]

what are we even arguing

yes it is possible to make a custom server; no it is not possible without huge amount of time and effort

[worldly ingot]

It's not an argument. It's a hypothetical. Glowstone 2.0 lol

[young knoll]

Just use the existing server but write a better api

[vagrant stratus]

You'd have the most luck going server version to server version and re-implementing everything lmao

[young knoll]

We’ll call it faucet

[livid dove]

Call it cardboard

[vagrant stratus]

That... reminds me of a project actually, I don't think it was ever complete nor do I remember what it's called lmao

You can't

It has to be 1:1 to the client

[sullen marlin]

I still dont understand what we are arguing

[livid dove]

Something something crazy idea

[vagrant stratus]

pügge here wants to make yet another from the ground up server

[young knoll]

That’s taken

[livid dove]

Hmmm.... voila?

[vagrant stratus]

I need to find it again lmao

[young knoll]

Alright now we’re talkin

[livid dove]

Don't wanna bring it up again here btw, but if what I've heard is true and u were the one who added snapshot functionality to inventory.getHolder, would you mind if we had a discussion about it as it has fascinated me and I'd love to hear more of the low-level side.

Dns maybe

*dms

[sullen marlin]

BlockStates are always snapshots and the only block that can hold an inventory is a BlockState

there's not really much more to discuss, I didn't design that part of the API, it's at least a decade old

[young knoll]

So we need to contact dinnerbone

Or maybe Grumm

[noble lantern]

• it was always reccomended not to use it for many years now (but we still do tbf)

[drowsy helm]

because you cant achieve some things without nms

[young knoll]

In a perfect world people would PR everything

Although even then not everything would be accepted

No

[drowsy helm]

we have remapped

[livid dove]

Huh very odd someone quoted you by name.

Either way is there any sort of sanity check that could be added low level to prevent unnecessary snapshot creation?

Seems like such a waste if its snapshotted every time its clicked in an inventory, as you have the hindsight benefit of knowing the inventory is just the one the player is already in

[young knoll]

Api is meant to abstract packets

[drowsy helm]

someone has to maintain the api for that

remapped is easier

as well as docs

[vagrant stratus]

FOUND IT: https://github.com/RackDevelopment/Wyvern2

[sullen marlin]

what are you trying to do, by calling getHolder presumably you are wanting the block that owns the inventory

[vagrant stratus]

It's got problems though iirc lmao

[young knoll]

Convince MD :p

[noble lantern]

they are using getHolder() as a means to identify the inventory, not for anything related to the block (i think)

[livid dove]

The issue is that plugins such as core protect, and various other sources use it for initial checks.

So every check, regardless of if the check is successful, can and does snapshot the inventory.

So if called from an on click event... yeah.

[young knoll]

That’s what protocollib is for

Or packet wrapper

Yes

[drowsy helm]

ProtocolLib sucks

[sullen marlin]

only optionally

[livid dove]

Pardon?

[sullen marlin]

by default protocollib makes you read the packet structure yourself

[young knoll]

A janky raw packet api is not good api design

[livid dove]

Oh right sorry mb

Thought u meant my bit haha

[sullen marlin]

will never be added because you cant do that in a version independent way and the point of the API is version independence

it undermines the entire API

[vagrant stratus]

That still goes against the point of the API

[drowsy helm]

more in the sense of api upkeep

[young knoll]

Just add mixins! Problem solved

[vagrant stratus]

NO

[young knoll]

||/s||

[sullen marlin]

aka ProtocolLib

[drowsy helm]

so protocol lib?

[noble lantern]

you arent touching the nms tho

[livid dove]

As a minimum, it'd be nice tk have in the documentation a big thumping warning to use it with care.

I say this as on investigating it does legit seem to be a decentlyncommon resource sink that's led to the idea custom items are universally bad for performance.

In reality half the plugins out there make snapshots every single click of an inventory, so if that inventory has lots of lore custom items.

[vagrant stratus]

I guess it makes some sense... but I'm not sure how you'd translate every packet received to a generic enough API class 🤔

[drowsy helm]

so what if it does?

the spigot api would use nms either way whats the difference between putting behind a facade

[noble lantern]

"In reality half the plugins out there make snapshots every single click of an inventory, so if that inventory has lots of lore custom items."

Thought this was only for getHolder calls....

custom items plugins are laggy because of theyre listeners and how much SHIT they handle for every damn event that happens on the server

[glad prawn]

Generator generator;

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockBreak(BlockBreakEvent e) {
        if (e.getBlock().getType() != Material.COBBLESTONE && getFromBlock(e.getBlock()) == null
                && getToBlock(e.getBlock()) == null)
            return;

        if (generator == null)
            generator = DATA.get(e.getPlayer().getUniqueId());
    }

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockForm(BlockFormEvent e) {
        if (e.getNewState().getType() == Material.COBBLESTONE) {
            e.setCancelled(true);
            e.getBlock().setType(generator.next());
        }
    }

If there is any performance problem when I checks between 2 events like this?.

[noble lantern]

and it only scales the more players and items the plugin has to handle

[livid dove]

I mean ngl I thought the same.

Then brewery plugin went from 12% thread use to 0.7% by removing the get holder checks and replacing with sensible checks...

I was legit shocked it was thst dumb

[noble lantern]

so then make a spigot post and jira post about it? people are gonna use getHolder either way

[young knoll]

Not with getHolder

Get that AuthorNagException out

[livid dove]

?

[drowsy helm]

no

[noble lantern]

thats fine for the items its innevitable

But for inventories a hashmap of uuid, inventory is likely fine for checking inventories

[young knoll]

Or inventory view

Yes those are the correct ways to do it

[livid dove]

Legit it is.

Get holder should legit be the utterly final thing done after every check.

I.e. it should only be called if the custom stuff is 100% about to happen

[noble lantern]

IGNORE WHAT I SAID

im tarded

[young knoll]

The bottom line is

[noble lantern]

or getHoldre() should be ditched/ PR'd to be fixed to return the cached holder

[young knoll]

Don’t use getHolder to identify inventories

[noble lantern]

idk why this debate has been going on for so long

[livid dove]

Hence why I suggest to md just at the utter least putting that in the docs

[noble lantern]

someone should just make a spigot post about it

[sullen marlin]

what exactly would a cached holder be?

[young knoll]

PRs are welcome

[livid dove]

Main reason Is im on phone till Monday my man

[sullen marlin]

the docs already tell you not to implement InventoryHolder

yet guess what plugins devs do all the time?

If they followed that part of the docs then they wouldnt be having this issue in the first place

[livid dove]

Put in the method itself, foll are morons sometimes and won't go directly to the source.

[sullen marlin]

just because its an easy to implement interface with 1 method, doesn't mean that it's free real estate

[noble lantern]

I dunno, i assume the getHolder() method doesnt directly return the stored InventoryHolder from the created inventory hence why theyre experienceing what they are

[sullen marlin]

because thats not at all what the method claims to do?

[livid dove]

Because ngl my man I've got devs I'm trying to convince this is even the problem

[sullen marlin]

     * Gets the block or entity belonging to the open inventory
     *
     * @return The holder of the inventory; null if it has no holder.
     */```

[noble lantern]

nope, i even said this yesterday when it was brought up that everyones always said to not use the getHolder() methods

[sullen marlin]

that hardly looks like "he stored InventoryHolder from the created inventory " to me

[noble lantern]

posts going back for many many years of it

dot

[livid dove]

Ngl that doesn't tell u the inventory is gonna get reconstructed for the snapshot from how I interpret it. And that's eith the context of me knowing that's what it does.

[sullen marlin]

open a PR with the doc changes you want and they can be discussed there

[noble lantern]

make a pr for getInventoryHolder

[coarse finch]

ok so i mentioned earlier i am continuing a discontinued project, and theres something that i dont understand. basically, the old namespace was ac.grim.grimac, but the new one is me.alecjensen.grumm. what i dont get, is that after changing the namespace, some imports still reference the old one, but the plugin works fine?

[livid dove]

No worries.

Just find it mad half the servers out there have fobbed off custom items as they are too bad for tps, when in reality this magic happens by removing one line

[noble lantern]

tldr: performance issues because of unintended uses

[coarse finch]

and the referenced classes i cant find anywhere in the code

[livid dove]

Hurts my soul it was that big of a jump 😅

[sullen marlin]

still hardly an API issue but a custom item plugin developer issue

[livid dove]

I mean tell that to @rain cypress

Core protect does it too

[coarse finch]

ok i see. there is another project for the API and that's what this is

[noble lantern]

idk tbh nor care too much since I've been using maps to differentiate inventories for a long time now

[sullen marlin]

presumably coreprotect actually wants the holder, because again "Gets the block or entity belonging to the open inventory"

[livid dove]

But it's done very early on

And in on click events

Tbh that's the biggest issue

[noble lantern]

make a PSA then

[young knoll]

They should cache it then

[noble lantern]

or a pr to return cached holder

or if you dont wanna, use reflection

[livid dove]

Anyone with half a brain can make a lag machine with an inventory, coloured text and a n auto clicker

[sullen marlin]

not really any such thing as a cached holder unless you can explain further

[livid dove]

Is there a way to sanity check if the inventory about to be snapshottednisnt just the one the player is in

As this is only a problem in legit just player click event

And move etc

[noble lantern]

when you createInventory() you can supply a InventoryHolder of your choosing, which is how people are differentiating inventories between one another

I would assume that InventoryHolder from createInventory() gets stored in the Inventory class somewhere

Havent checked to be fair

[livid dove]

This isnonly ever a problem on scenarios where the inventory is already 100% sure

What's that code rule number 1? Never do the same check twice?

[sullen marlin]

1. you're not supposed to do that; but 2) yes that is what is returned for those inventories, but if you call getHolder on an actual chest in the world then it is going to return a snapshot of the actual in the world chest inventory which is the point of the api

[livid dove]

So the fact it's callable from inventory move and click events is a bit of an odd one. I know how java works but it just doesn't feel quite right to allow that straight up

[sullen marlin]

you can't cache a snapshot of a chest in the world in the inventory because you don't know when the chest is going to be invalidated

yes, where the inventory is a block in the world

[noble lantern]

inventory instance*

theyre using the holder to tell what inventory is what when the player clicks on it in InventoryClickEvent

[livid dove]

Just think it'd be nice to include some sortnof sanity check or id or something to bypass snapshottijg the items in the inventory somehow.

As said this is a problem due scenario's like this:

Player has chest full of gradient lore lined custom items.

They move all 27 to a shulker...

The inventory get golder was used for some custom check.

Those 27 custom items are reconstructed 27 times due to snapshot creation

I know it's against the grain.

But I genuinely just have a gut feeling a sanity check is in order for the events that already have the items 1000% guaranteed

[noble lantern]

bruh

[noble lantern]

.

[noble lantern]

well, like md_5 said you can always pr the javadoc to warn people not to use it/word it differently

that would only get the players inventory name

if that last method even exists

[livid dove]

Aye. I agree. But tbh it is bugging me. It feels like this should be something that is sanitychdckable somehow

[river oracle]

You shouldn't even ever need the Inventory Name ever anyways

[noble lantern]

its more like getView()getDisplayName() iirc

just use the view/inventory and a hashmap

[river oracle]

InventoryView#getTitle
and to even make more clear there was a recent pr for
InventoryView#setTitle
Just more proof its not ID at all

[noble lantern]

you can test your luck and make a getInventoryHolder() pr that directly returns the holder but i 100% doubt it would get added since its not the way its meant to be used as md5 said

[noble lantern]

setTitle!?!?!?!?!?!!?

[river oracle]

not really? What is hard with using th Events API

[noble lantern]

that is REVLUTIONARY

however tf its spelled

[river oracle]

lol

[noble lantern]

discord aint telling me its wrong but ik damn well it is

[river oracle]

REVOLUTIONARY

[noble lantern]

hashmap 3x

[livid dove]

How u mean with the events api?

[river oracle]

lol your a funny guy

[river oracle]

PlayerInteractEvent

because adding 1 if statement was too hard

introducing RightClickEvent

[noble lantern]

anyways

How sloppy is this for doing 2x block drops (taking the entire list copying it and adding it to itself)

[livid dove]

Omfg yeah and store it in a manager to then check in the onClicks.

Fuckijg big brain

[river oracle]

no too performance

while(true){
   Thread.sleep(19231923)
}

[livid dove]

Lmao

But yeah it made me realise just how screwed a rep custom items have got from this for non devs

[river oracle]

CustomItems?

[sullen marlin]

?

[river oracle]

what Custom Items

[livid dove]

As due to CP and other plugijs having this problem a lot of servers assume its the norm

[noble lantern]

why would getHolder make custom items performance bad....

[sullen marlin]

its still an issue with the custom items being badly programmed lol

[livid dove]

*items with metadata

Specifically gradient lorenlines

[sullen marlin]

so they still deserver the reputation

[river oracle]

you might not wanna use the CP please expound

[noble lantern]

thought this was about getHolder...

[livid dove]

Ffs

[livid dove]

The 2 are very very connected.

[river oracle]

@analog basin why do you delete responses so often

I get like .1 seconds to read it

[noble lantern]

so the call does nothing when normal coloring is used, but gradiest is used?

[livid dove]

.

It is bad either way

But more meta data

Worse issue

[river oracle]

wait are we recreating core protect?

guys I've got an idea

[noble lantern]

either way thats not gonna show up on the custom items plugins load

[river oracle]

Download CorePortect :s

[noble lantern]

its gonna come up on the plugin calling getHolder()

[rain cypress]

PR

[livid dove]

No we are ssaying custom items srnt even 1/4 as bad as they currently are if this issue in plugons are resolved

[livid dove]

Moment I'm home from holiday chief i gotchu homie

[noble lantern]

idk i doubt getHolder() magically makes all custom items plugins work like crud

Most are very poorly made or have code bases ranging from 6+ years without any major rewrites/bases

[livid dove]

I know it's a bit odd to say but imagine ur not a dev for a min.

Ur Johnny server owner.

Custom items added to ur server caused ur server to shit the bed.

Are u ever ginna think "gosh darn that fuckijg core protect get holder"

The issue isn't the actual problem itself, it's the fact it's such a subtle problem that's missable that it's caused a community stigma for the wrong reasons

[sullen marlin]

you're really dramatic lol

[noble lantern]

this is gonna sound really mean but

I dont think little johnny should be handling a MC servers without learning how to use basic server tools like a profiler

[livid dove]

I'm British

[young knoll]

I think little Johnny should also open an issue on coreprotect

[livid dove]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-keaton-tea-gif-11399815

[noble lantern]

and a PSA on spigot about why getHolder() is bad and alternatives to it

shi

i might do it for free spigot clout

[livid dove]

Imagine Johnny sees 15 plugins all running at 2-3% with no real red flags.

How is Johnny gonna know they should all be running at 0.3%?

Ladies and gentlemen, the point made manifest 🤣

[naive loom]

It's been a while since I've made a cross-version solution for a Minecraft Plugin and I was wondering if the JDK is upwards or downwards compat, e.g. if I wanted to use Java 17 as my JDK and ran it on a 1.8 server would it recognize my record and still run?

[noble lantern]

Johnny would go into the servers software's #help-server and send his profiler results, and ask why his server is having performance issues

To which, someone experienced could look into the issue further

2% is bad for a single event

2% for an entire plugin is fine (with everything firing)

But a 2% tps increase from simply clicking is the cause for a major lag machine

[chrome ferry]

Depends if u used java 17 features, it won’t work for older java versions

[naive loom]

Okay, so if I wanted to support minimum 1.8.8 I should use that jdk and it will work for future versions?

[livid dove]

No joke I'd love u forever.

As u can imagine my personality makes me to erm.. u don't wanna listen even if I'm right due to how I approach it.

It'd be amazing for folk to hear it from "not raz"

[naive loom]

That's what I thought it's just been a while, thanks 🙂

[sullen marlin]

1.8 doesnt work very well on anything other than java 8

[young knoll]

If you compile with java 8 support it’ll run on java 17

Minus janky reflection hacks*

[livid dove]

I.e. I've tried telling a big 200+ player community this issue and they don't believe me 😅

Because as I hope you can sympathise after dealing with my ass, it was me saying it 🤣

[noble lantern]

were the 200 players developers though

[sullen marlin]

ok now go sell this java verison on mcmarket for $200

people will buy it

[livid dove]

Real

[noble lantern]

people buy anything on mcmarket

i know because ive bought shit from there before

[young knoll]

Uhh it’s BuiltByBit

Smh

[livid dove]

Sorta my point.
I love that community to bits and I know several others who have this issue too.

I'd just like something, some source, some quote that I can throw at them and be like "look... its a thing ffs"

[noble lantern]

point then to the source code method

[young knoll]

Show them a profiler

But dumbed down

[noble lantern]

generally minecraft players arent the brightest

So its to be expected you got those results

[livid dove]

It's more the fact it's me saying it, which I hope u all understand considering how pissed I got everyone yesterday

I need someone else to say it 😅

[noble lantern]

why do they gotta know anyways arent you deving the plugin theyre using?

or patching/fixing

[livid dove]

It is one of those where unless admins give the bkg cheff kiss of approval it ain't getting changed.

[noble lantern]

If they cant approve a performance improvement i would leave in a heartbeat

especially such a simple one

would take maybe 30-60 mins to rewrite a decent sized plugin to use maps instead of holders

[livid dove]

It goes back to the rep vs common sense thing

E.g: coreprotect has this problem

You are trying to convince Johnny server owner that there is an issue thst core protect, a plugin almost every other big server uses, has.

[noble lantern]

make an issue on theyre github

[livid dove]

And hasn't fixed even though its a simple issue

I thibk we are privileged as coders sometimes to knownjust how rubber band and glue stick even reputable companies code is

Most folk genuinely can't fathom shit like core protect being the cause of a problem with custom brews yknow?

[young knoll]

The world runs on jank

[livid dove]

And most folkndont realise it

[noble lantern]

javas JVM is holding on by a thread at this point (literally)

[livid dove]

Lmao

[noble lantern]

goofy ahh

[livid dove]

This is my point.

We forget... most folk don't know this

[noble lantern]

those are the folk that dont need to run a server

[young knoll]

You’ll be happy to know when people ask about gui in here we usually send smiles guide

Which does not use holders

[noble lantern]

if anyone serious about running a server they need to be able to keep an open mind to a whole plethora of issues

?inventory

whats smiles guide

[young knoll]

Idk if we have a command

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[livid dove]

I sympathise with them as I agreem.im an engineering lecturer and preach this very message every day.

But due to that I know most folk don't see what we see.

E.g before java I didn't even consider things being bugged a lot of the time and figurd I was an idiot.

Now I see em everywhere and realise its cause some pillock pushed something without reviewing lol

[noble lantern]

ah so he stores Inventory too nice

[sullen marlin]

now thats worth smiling about

[livid dove]

I do legit think we forget just how much more we see of the jank than everyone else

[noble lantern]

our nuclear missiles are ran on pre 80's software btw

floppy discs

worlds fucked

[livid dove]

...I'm an aerospace engineer , preaching to the choir haha

[noble lantern]

i remembe hearing about this nuclear plant that had a computer that it relied on for cooling and when some tech came out to work on it it was just caked in dust

lemme see if i can find the vid

[livid dove]

Before we get too off the point from before. I would highly highly appreciate someone writing this all out in a neat format.

Hell I'd be infinitely grateful.if it was md_5 as it'd hold weight.

But I'd understand if not

But worst can be said is no

Because legit all I'd need is someone else to say this, fully.and clearly and I'd hope that'd be enough

I.e. the get holder issue and why it effects custom items hard

[noble lantern]

just tell your boss to hop in this discord channel and we all call him dumb for not listening to his dev, ez /s

[livid dove]

🤣

This is why I love and hate coders

[young knoll]

Inb4 boss is like

12

[noble lantern]

i wouldnt be surprised tbh

[livid dove]

Ur my people. Blunt, honest, to the point.

[noble lantern]

but if they pay they pay

[livid dove]

It's more a shit tonne of politics

[noble lantern]

idk why you couldnt just make the change and push it

like whats reallystopping you

[vagrant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/allan-spiller-20dollars-twenty-bucks-money-cash-gif-17442373

[livid dove]

The way they do their releases 🤣

Nice shiny git hub don't mean they gonna grab and release server side

[vagrant stratus]

kek

[noble lantern]

but, if the change is there, next time they want something it will be there 😉

[livid dove]

Plus once again its the thing where let's say core protect. I could fix that in an afternoon

[noble lantern]

you dont need to fix others just make issue requests

[livid dove]

U gonna trust me when I say I changed a well known plugon to "fix it"

[pseudo hazel]

hang the fuck on

are you still talking about the get holder thing?

[noble lantern]

why not

[sullen marlin]

^ was just gonna say

[noble lantern]

no one else is talkin bout anything else

[pseudo hazel]

man needs to chill

[livid dove]

They ripped me apart yesterday for it 🤣

[pseudo hazel]

rightfully so might I add

[livid dove]

Aye

[pseudo hazel]

but thats enough of me

its way to late where I am

[livid dove]

Md was in chat and he is literally thenmost qualified to discuss it. Got some good stuff out the convo lol

[hybrid spoke]

justified

[livid dove]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-25785566

[astral scroll]

Bro, whats the error here? https://pastes.dev/DYnWIRSxxx

!help

!unverify

!verify

[undone axle]

Usage: !verify <forums username>

[hybrid spoke]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[astral scroll]

lemme verify rlly quick

!verify 1src

[undone axle]

A private message has been sent to your SpigotMC.org account for verification!

[astral scroll]

k now

literally is a huge error

[river oracle]

idk much about IJ but what java version you using

[astral scroll]

1.8

?pastes

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[astral scroll]

https://paste.md-5.net/ogofivepid.xml

wait

that's not the pom.xml i use normally

[river oracle]

your pom is targetin java 7

[astral scroll]

now https://paste.md-5.net/qesupezuqo.xml

this

lemme reload

yes that was

[astral scroll]

Someone that knows Kotlin would like to explain this to me?

 companion object {
        var config: Configuration? = null
    }```

[river oracle]

Kotlin + maven?

thats interesting

[grave kayak]

        unbreakingPoints.put(3, plugin.getConfig().getInt("enchantments.DURABILITY.3"));
        unbreakingPoints.put(4, plugin.getConfig().getInt("enchantments.DURABILITY.4"));
        unbreakingPoints.put(5, plugin.getConfig().getInt("enchantments.DURABILITY.5"));
        unbreakingPoints.put(6, plugin.getConfig().getInt("enchantments.DURABILITY.6"));

        enchantmentPoints.put(Enchantment.DURABILITY, unbreakingPoints);``` i have this code trying to load the points from my enchantment_points.yml but it will not load the values into my gui. everything worked fine when i had just the number value in the points section. it is loading the file into the plugin folder too

[noble lantern]

getConfig() only returns the config.yml

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/config-files/

If you wanna use config files with other names (or more than one config file) use this guide and go down to "Using CustomConfigurations"

[grave kayak]

thank you!

[astral scroll]

no no

just a code i was looking in github

[thorny trout]

i need a spawner plugin like donutsmp

[river oracle]

you'll need to pay a developer for that

[thorny trout]

how and where

[river oracle]

idk

thats for you to figure out

?services is a place to start

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[merry viper]

anyone

[shadow night]

Is there a universal method to check for entities on a certain area, like from -4, 0, -4 to 4, 4, 4 or do I have to loop through each location in-between of those to do that?

[green prism]

Hello everyone, just a quick question: Do I have to set the position of the Lode Stone of the compass to create a player tracker compass?

I would like to make it so that only that specific compass points to a specific player

[sullen marlin]

World#getNearbyEntities

[sullen marlin]

yes, can do with itemmeta

[true perch]

If I wanted to program a network based marketplace system, would it be acceptable to use the bungee server as the place each server requests whether or not an item has been purchased? I was thinking each request could be processed within a queue and mark the item as purchased for the first request in the queue to purchase said item. OR is there a better alternative? I'm not sure how standard it is to program a system like this on the bungee server it's self.

[green prism]

md_5 solving a problem for me, what an honor!

Thank you md

[sullen marlin]

Usually you'd just use a database or something?

Rather than try and make bungee a database

[true perch]

I was thinking that, but I was afraid that if Server A requested to purchase an item, it goes through then sends a request to the database to update it's availability, maybe Server B also checked the item's availability at the same time and returned that the item is available before Server A was able to update the availability

[vocal cloud]

That's not how DB's work. If you could do that you'd be able to withdraw money from the bank twice if you clicked the button fast enough

[true perch]

Right, that's my fear with it. Is there a way to check the database and update it simultaniously based on the data?

[vocal cloud]

Yes?

[true perch]

what sql command would do that?

I suppose I'll google it actually, thank you!

[vocal cloud]

Why not just delete the item from the DB when it's purchased?

You can check the result to see if it actually was deleted and if it wasn't then just send an error message

[true perch]

Okay so:

• player purchases item (can afford)
• delete item on database
• check if item is deleted, if so purchase was successful
  correct?