Anyone know why EntityType.byString("ZOMBIE").get() doesn't seem to work? It throws
[17:17:34 WARN]: Caused by: java.util.NoSuchElementException: No value present
[17:17:34 WARN]: at java.base/java.util.Optional.get(Optional.java:143)
#help-development
restive mango
I assume it's something stupid
remote swallow
hikari is coded in english iirc so if you cant understand english to an extent you should learn more first
quaint mantle
yep
quaint mantle
Anyone know why EntityType.byString("ZOMBIE").get() doesn't seem to work? It thr...
can u send ur code ?
restive mango
i'm really just looking to know why the method doesn't work with the input of 'ZOMBIE'
quaint mantle
u need do to EntityType.ZOMBIE ?
remote swallow
im not finding a fromString method in the EntityType enum, use EntityType.fromName
remote swallow
that may make sense
exotic moat
can someone help me do this and compile it for me im new
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/scoreboard-toggling.333621/
remote swallow
can someone help me do this and compile it for me im new
https://www.spigotmc.or...
just that isnt gonna work at all
restive mango
NMS EntityType
i'm doing conversions from bukkit entities to nms crap so i can use packets
so u can pat urself on the back aye
young knoll
((CraftEntity)yourEntity).getHandle
exotic moat
just that isnt gonna work at all
:( i just want my users to be able to toggle off scoreboard
restive mango
sounds smart
remote swallow
:( i just want my users to be able to toggle off scoreboard
what scoreboard plugin do you use
remote swallow
yeah you most likely will need a plugin if you want it toggleable
exotic moat
yeah you most likely will need a plugin if you want it toggleable
can i put scoreboard objectives with a scoreboard plugin?
remote swallow
if you find one with placeholderapi support you can do alot
exotic moat
i use /scoreboard to make objectives and display them on the sidebar, can a scoreboard plugin use those objectives?
remote swallow
what do you have on your scoreboard currently
exotic moat
time played
remote swallow
yeah theres a placeholder for that, you just need a plugin that can load them
exotic moat
ok
flint coyote
is there a way to get Keyed objects as string?
e.g. from StructureType structureType = StructureType.BURIED_TREASURE;
I'd like to get BURIED_TREASURE
Do registries have a function for that?
I'd be willing to use reflection if necessary
hybrid spoke
learning by doing
orchid gazelle
I'd be willing to use reflection if necessary
StructureType.BURIED_TREASURE.toString()
It returns the name of an enum in a string
flint coyote
It has to be dynamic for all Keyed Objects. Also StructureType is not an enum
remote swallow
iirc doesnt it have a getKey() method
flint coyote
doesn't that return the NamespacedKey but not the actual key of the object?
hybrid spoke
StructureType.BURIED_TREASURE.toString()
Enum#name()
hybrid spoke
It has to be dynamic for all Keyed Objects. Also StructureType is not an enum
oh well then receive the field name
remote swallow
doesn't that return the NamespacedKey but not the actual key of the object?
you can then call getKey again and get the after colon part
orchid gazelle
Enum#name()
Does it exist for Java 8?
remote swallow
getKey() should return minecraft:buried_treasure getKey() again should return buried_treasure
flint coyote
you can then call getKey again and get the after colon part
ohhh yeah if that works it's fine
hybrid spoke
Does it exist for Java 8?
yes
hybrid spoke
basic java ¯_(ツ)_/¯
orchid gazelle
I have been using .toString for my entire life
flint coyote
oh well then receive the field name
which field?
orchid gazelle
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
hybrid spoke
which field?
i believe BURIED_TREASURE is a field isnt it
flint coyote
Yes but I can't know the name
Keyed test = StructureType.BURIED_TREASURE;
test.getClass().getField("name???");
it's not like I can do that. Remember that this is just an example and I usually don't know the value of the Keyed object like I do in this example.
hybrid spoke
loop over the fields
flint coyote
and search for?
hybrid spoke
whatever you need
upper case or whatever
look for patterns
or look for an easier way
weird enough that StructureType is not an enum
flint coyote
I only have a Field that implements Keyed with a value and reflective access to it.
flint coyote
weird enough that StructureType is not an enum
They'll remove most enums if I understood that correctly
buoyant viper
getDeclaredField 
carmine mica
why aren't you just using the key itself? why do you want the field name?
flint coyote
For configuration files
orchid gazelle
They'll remove most enums if I understood that correctly
Why?? Enums are the most goated thing ever
carmine mica
use the key for config files
onyx fjord
any standalone (ideally minimal) libraries to listen to mc packets?
flint coyote
Yeah I'll try the key thing
carmine mica
some-structure: minecraft:buried_treasure
or
some-structure: buried_treasure
you could also make a parallel enum class which has the same constants as the class's fields
hazy parrot
Why?? Enums are the most goated thing ever
minecraft is kinda data-driven, so enums aren't really suitable there
flint coyote
you could also make a parallel enum class which has the same constants as the cl...
would break with each update sadly
hybrid spoke
otherwise just use the key if you dont want to overcomplicate it
flint coyote
yeah I can use the key, thx
hybrid spoke
you are looking for the best looking solution while already having one
carmine mica
you should be using the key for everything, not Enum#name (if it is an enum) or toString
orchid gazelle
minecraft is kinda data-driven, so enums aren't really suitable there
Don't care, enums always great
carmine mica
do you think Material should be an enum?
flint coyote
I don't get the point of ditching enums either
carmine mica
like does the Material enum make sense, as its designed now?
orchid gazelle
Yes and no
visual laurel
how can i make these particles only last for 4 ticks?
private void shootParticleLaser(Player player, double damagePerTick, double maxDistance, int tickDelay) {
new BukkitRunnable() {
double distance = 0;
public void run() {
Location particleLocation = player.getEyeLocation().add(player.getLocation().getDirection().multiply(distance));
// Spawn laser particle
player.getWorld().spawnParticle(Particle.REDSTONE, particleLocation, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, new Particle.DustOptions(Color.GREEN, 1));
// Check for players in the laser path
for (Entity entity : particleLocation.getWorld().getEntities()) {
if (entity != player && entity.getLocation().distance(particleLocation) < 1 && entity instanceof LivingEntity) {
// Apply damage to hit entity
LivingEntity livingEntity = (LivingEntity) entity;
livingEntity.damage(damagePerTick);
}
}
distance += 0.1;
// Check if the laser has reached its maximum distance
if (distance >= maxDistance) {
this.cancel();
}
}
}.runTaskTimer(this, 0, tickDelay);
}```yes
orchid gazelle
But honestly, more like yes
carmine mica
I don't get the point of ditching enums either
Biome biome = Biome.CUSTOM
yeah, enums make sense... for that
orchid gazelle
I think the Material rnum is good
carmine mica
It combines Block and Item in a way they shouldn't be combined
why are Stone block and Stone the item type the same thing?
orchid gazelle
I mean
carmine mica
Ok, so then what about potatoes.
hybrid spoke
you can seperate them
carmine mica
or carrots
orchid gazelle
There maybe should be a BlockMaterial and ItemMaterial enum
hybrid spoke
but the enum would be as a type probably the best option
carmine mica
those have separate enums
remote swallow
There maybe should be a BlockMaterial and ItemMaterial enum
what about adding custom items
carmine mica
Material.POTATO, and Material.POTATOES, those are the same thing too, just like the item stone, and block stone
hybrid spoke
a reason to change, but not to ditch enums
carmine mica
you can't have a server implementation of an enum, so that means if you want to get some property of that enum, either it has to be hardcoded to the enum constructor, or you have to make a bridge method to get it, through UnsafeValues, Server, ItemFactory, one of those bridges
orchid gazelle
what about adding custom items
BlockMaterial.CUSTOM, then attach your Block to it
remote swallow
so im meant to do some hella jank do check if its a custom item
onyx fjord
do you think Material should be an enum?
Yes I don't like magic strings
remote swallow
no thankyou
quaint mantle
try with resource can close statement and connection after leave onenable?
carmine mica
yeah I know, but people said that block stone and block item are the same thing #help-development message
hybrid spoke
you can't have a server implementation of an enum, so that means if you want to ...
first of all, why would you want to implement a new material in a plugin context
onyx fjord
Should be an enum if it has limited options
hybrid spoke
this isnt modding
remote swallow
yeah I know, but people said that block stone and block item are the same thing ...
try with resources closes the connection when the code is done running
carmine mica
first of all, why would you want to implement a new material in a plugin context
what are you talking about... that doesn't make any sense as a response to what I said
orchid gazelle
this isnt modding
By definition it is
hybrid spoke
what are you talking about... that doesn't make any sense as a response to what ...
not quite sure what you meant with "server implementation of an enum"
onyx fjord
It's server side modding
orchid gazelle
Yes
carmine mica
not quite sure what you meant with "server implementation of an enum"
what server impl always means here, all those CraftXXX classes are implementations of api types
and you can't do that with an enum, so you have to hardcode properties or have bridge methods
remote swallow
the material enum in its current state for the pr is being deprecated and stuff is converted to BlockType and ItemType
carmine mica
both of which are not needed if you just follow the interface + impl pattern
orchid gazelle
the material enum in its current state for the pr is being deprecated and stuff ...
Wait really?
orchid gazelle
I literally just guessed that BlockType and ItemType would be a way LMAO
carmine mica
they aren't enums
remote swallow
one machine maker is also there
orchid gazelle
I did not know it was a thing
onyx fjord
Why would that be split
carmine mica
because they are separate things
you can't have new ItemStack(Material.MOVING_PISTON)
onyx fjord
But block has the same material as it's item
carmine mica
not always
onyx fjord
Ah
remote swallow
not for everything
carmine mica
potatoes and carrots
remote swallow
theres a load @young knoll found
carmine mica
its a completely arbitrary connection, that an item and block happen to have the same name. It doesn't signify anything about them
onyx fjord
So there would be duplicates?
Or
Yeah what do you do with those with regular behavior
carmine mica
you also shouldn't be able to do block.setType(Material.DIAMOND_PICKAXE)
but because they are combined as a single monstrocity, you can
tardy delta
shouldnt?
onyx fjord
Never tried, does it error?
carmine mica
idk either, and thats a great reason why it shouldn't be a thing, which is why splitting them up is good
it could error, it could go to air, idk
onyx fjord
As long as it stays as enums
onyx fjord
What are they
carmine mica
static final fields in ItemType and BlockType
onyx fjord
Ehh
carmine mica
idk why ehh
onyx fjord
What does that benefit
remote swallow
hybrid spoke
What does that benefit
extendable
carmine mica
What does that benefit
you don't need to hardcode properties, or have bridge methods to get properties of an ItemType or BlockType
which is what the Material enum does all over the place now
you can have a CraftItemType which just gets the property directly from the nms type
carmine mica
well, they won't
hybrid spoke
once material is gone they will
carmine mica
lots of stuff is being fixed with bytecode rewriting, and Material isn't being deleted
no, its just being deprecated
hybrid spoke
fuck the latter
remote swallow
onyx fjord
Maybe material could redirect to the new solution or something
carmine mica
and all methods that use it are being replaced with bytecode rewrites fixing the ABI breaks that causes
onyx fjord
So it doesn't break
young knoll
Material is staying as is
carmine mica
they need to fix their "compiles", but at runtime, most things will work
and there's an option to make sure pretty much everything will work, at a potential small performance hit, but that's disabled by default
a plugin complied against an api with Material-related methods and other enums that will be changed will still work after
you will just have to fix those issues before you compile against the new api
onyx fjord
any standalone (ideally minimal) libraries to listen to mc packets?
Bump it got lost a bit
young knoll
PacketEvents
remote swallow
im taking a wild guess thats what he uses already and was wonder if any smaller exists
onyx fjord
Yea I need it as minimal as possible
remote swallow
how big even is packet events
onyx fjord
Over a meg shaded
remote swallow
just use libby to load it
onyx fjord
Could be even more
remote swallow
its like 25kb
chrome beacon
Yeah you can download the jar and then load it
warm mica
one machine maker is also there
I want to die
Multi support is getting extensively more complicated with each update
low marten
wrote a spawner plugin and i use minecraft’s block storage system to store data. there was no lag the server just crashed, i don’t understand too much about what happened or how to fix the issue
warm mica
They should just keep Material as they had it before where it included both items and blocks
sharp bough
does anyone konw how hypixel makes this kind of things?
chrome beacon
wrote a spawner plugin and i use minecraft’s block storage system to store data....
You managed to freeze the server for 30 seconds or so
sharp bough
what are they?
low marten
does anyone konw how hypixel makes this kind of things?
amorstands
invisible ones holding the items
low marten
You managed to freeze the server for 30 seconds or so
yeah but how and why
i need to fix it, it was for a client who spent a ton 😂
sharp bough
is there a guide, api or smth to work with it?
low marten
is there a guide, api or smth to work with it?
armorstands are entities
chrome beacon
yeah but how and why
?nocode
undone axleBOT
It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.
chrome beacon
Can't help then
low marten
im just so confused
chrome beacon
Something you did froze the server
You can see the thread dump for what exactly
We can't help you more than that
low marten
is that something other than what i sent?
chrome beacon
No
low marten
the error points to the customblockdata code which just uses mc’s block info storage system
which makes no sense
remote swallow
check the lines the thread dumb is saying is causing the errors
chrome beacon
You could be stuck in an infinite loop or smth
low marten
nah not that
low marten
check the lines the thread dumb is saying is causing the errors
the error points to the customblockdata code which just uses mc’s block info storage system
no line #
remote swallow
check cmd's code then, see if its a bug and report it
low marten
i hate weird errors
sharp bough
armorstands are entities
does this mean that they are not friendly and shot not be used that freely?
remote swallow
if its 1.19.4 you can use the new item displays
sharp bough
if its 1.19.4 you can use the new item displays
wdym
low marten
i was just saying armorstands are entities and you can spawn them
remote swallow
wdym
in 1.19.4 mojang added item displays
they're non ticking entities for display items
with transformation
remote swallow
its intellij enabling ligatures
worldly ingot
lol I'm glad you already answered because I was going to say they were ligaments
and I realize that those are joints
remote swallow
smoky anchor
Heyo, how do I play a note in world ?
I have not found a anything like playNote that is in player
quaint mantle
actually why i need check is connection not null and return connection ?
smoky anchor
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#playSound...
ye, that is player specific, no?
I would like to do what noteblocks do
but in code
tall dragon
actually why i need check is connection not null and return connection ?
that code either returns an available connection. or when null attempts to establish one.
tall dragon
ye, that is player specific, no?
I would like to do what noteblocks do
but in co...
well you can use exactly the method i provided for that
remote swallow
you probably want to run that async and return a future if you arent using hikari
tall dragon
the method takes a "Sound" Enum
smoky anchor
well you can use exactly the method i provided for that
I do not believe that is what I want
tall dragon
which contain "BLOCK_NOTE_BLOCK_<instrument>"
smoky anchor
I want to play the note in world, not for a specific player
smoky anchor
ok so I have to create the pitch myself, can't use the Note class for this
sad
tall dragon
??
tall dragon
yea whats the problem with specifying that urself.
smoky anchor
That I should not have to do that, Spigot should have the API for this
The same one as it is for player
sullen marlin
Add a feature request
quaint mantle
Connection connection;
public Connection getConnection() throws SQLException{
if (connection != null) return connection;
String userName = "root";
String password = "12345";
String dbUrl = "jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/players";
this.connection = DriverManager.getConnection(dbUrl, userName, password);
return connection;
}
public void initializeDatabase(){
try (Statement statement = getConnection().createStatement()){
String sql = "CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS playerstats(name varchar(16) primary key, emerald int, token int, level int, skillpoint int)";
getLogger().info(ChatColor.RED + "There was an error in database -> ");
statement.execute(sql);
}
catch (SQLException exception){
getLogger().info(ChatColor.RED + "There was an error in database -> ");
exception.printStackTrace();
}
}``` is my code true ? i don't wanna use try cath in onEnable so i do twrI expected that
May you please point me to the correct place ?
sullen marlin
?jira
undone axleBOT
smoky anchor
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-open-source-opensource-linux-gif-183641...
I don't feel like signing the thingie
ty
remote swallow
so you dont want to meet md's kangaroo
quaint mantle
can we cancel the item using ?
i mean bow pulling shield blocking ?
quaint mantle
when i add the itemcooldown to shield
shield has cooldown but i can still blocking
vocal cloud
Do you want to cancel it sometime or all the time?
quaint mantle
Do you want to cancel it sometime or all the time?
sometime
when player get damage from sword attacker
livid dove
I want to play the note in world, not for a specific player
Adventure api
vocal cloud
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#playSound(org.bukkit.Location,org.bukkit.Sound,float,float) I don't think you need adventure do you?
young knoll
Adventure is for components anyway...?
young knoll
TIL
pseudo hazel
quaint mantle
Where can I find a modified 1.8 spigot for good knockback etc, something like NitroSpigot but 1,8 only
opal carbon
adventure messes with everything yeah
carmine mica
They should just keep Material as they had it before where it included both item...
why tho? the Stone item type and Stone block type are different things
warm mica
why tho? the Stone item type and Stone block type are different things
I find the two new type classes pretty cool but it's pain that plugins developer must create a wrapper class to retain proper support for older versions
carmine mica
well, Material will still exist, just deprecated and not getting future updates
and the 2 new things aren't enums either, saw you corrected your statement
warm mica
well, Material will still exist, just deprecated and not getting future updates
That's what I mean. You therefore must create wrapper classes each time you'd previously use Material
carmine mica
if you are developing for older versions, you probably aren't compiling against the new api right?
well actually, idk if its decided that Material won't get new constants, I think that's still up in the air
but new methods, I think is off the table
warm mica
This depends on the plugin itself. Newer ones likely use the new API
carmine mica
well if you use new api, you obviously can't use it on a server that doesn't have that api, like an older version
that's just how it works
warm mica
But this rather seemless change has massive affect on plugins as EssentialsX and any other
Each plugin is forced to create the wrapper classes if they want to retain the support
carmine mica
idk what seemless means to you in this context, if you mean seamless, that doesn't make sense either
warm mica
I mean that it's a small change with massive consequences for almost any plugin
carmine mica
I feel like you still aren't understanding that you can't use new api on old servers, that's always the case, not something new that's happening here
if you compile against spigot api for 1.19.4 and use material, that will still work on a hypothetical 1.20 spigot server (assuming this happens for 1.20), and into the future
livid dove
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#playSound(org.buk...
Eh QoL
vocal cloud
QoL to use an entire library over just using a native method?
warm mica
But there's nothing new. Something existing is just being split apart enforcing everyone to adapt something that's basically the same thing as before. Material will likely stay until the death of Spigot itself, similar to the past legacy methods that have been deprecated. It wouldn't be a lot of effort to add new items/blocks into the Material enum as well. As a result of this not being done, almost any plugin needs an overhaul if they just want to make use of the new materials
I can understand that it's being deprecated. There is no way around that
But the transition should be done easier for everyone
carmine mica
I said I don't think its been decided if new constants will continue to be added to Material
it sounds like doing that would solve all your issues
warm mica
Yes, that's my main concern
livid dove
I find the two new type classes pretty cool but it's pain that plugins developer...
Why arnt they just making them sub classes?
remote swallow
I said I don't think its been decided if new constants will continue to be added...
we can probably figure out when 1.20 comes out, im guessing the de-enumifcation is happening then too
opal carbon
I find the two new type classes pretty cool but it's pain that plugins developer...
they aint gonna just straight up get rid of them i doubt
wait what are they doing to material anyway
warm mica
wait what are they doing to material anyway
As far as I have understood it's being deprecated and possibly new entries aren't being added to it with future updates. They are being added to new ItemType and BlockType classes instead
warm mica
we can probably figure out when 1.20 comes out, im guessing the de-enumifcation ...
Their first plan was to actually keep the Material classes (without it being deprecated) and to just de-enumificate it
opal carbon
do they just not like enums since they not flexible or smthm
warm mica
Ig because of potential mod support
opal carbon
makes sense sorta ish
cause yeah enums on their own do tend to be rather hardcoded
so its understandable sorta ish
restive mango
I've been having some trouble using packets to simulate the movement of falling blocks. I find that they 'stutter' in space, teleporting 0.1~ blocks rapidly as they travel, rather than move smoothly. Here's the code:
public AsynchronousEntity(Vector velocity, Location spawnLocation, org.bukkit.entity.EntityType entityType, Material mat,
int x){
this.unmodVec = velocity;
this.velocity = new Vec3(velocity.getX()*x, velocity.getY()*x, velocity.getZ()*x);
this.lastLocation = spawnLocation;
lastTime = System.currentTimeMillis();
entityID = new Random().nextInt(Integer.MAX_VALUE);
entityUUID = UUID.randomUUID();
if (entityType != null) {
this.entityString = entityType.getKey().toString();
Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach(player -> {
CraftPlayer craftPlayer = (CraftPlayer) player;
if (mat != null) {
craftPlayer.getHandle().connection.send(new ClientboundAddEntityPacket(entityID, entityUUID, lastLocation.getX(), lastLocation.getY(), lastLocation.getZ(), 0, 0, EntityType.byString(entityString).get(), getId(CraftMagicNumbers.getBlock(mat, (byte) 0)), this.velocity));
} else {
craftPlayer.getHandle().connection.send(new ClientboundAddEntityPacket(entityID, entityUUID, lastLocation.getX(), lastLocation.getY(), lastLocation.getZ(), 0, 0, EntityType.byString(entityString).get(), 0, this.velocity));
}
craftPlayer.getHandle().connection.send(new ClientboundSetEntityMotionPacket(entityID, this.velocity));
});
}
}
public AsynchronousEntity updateLocation(){
Long timeDiff = System.currentTimeMillis() - lastTime;
lastTime = System.currentTimeMillis();
Vector vec = new Vector(unmodVec.getX(), unmodVec.getY(), unmodVec.getZ());
vec.multiply(((double) timeDiff)*0.05);
lastLocation.add(vec);
vec.multiply(32*128);
Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach(player -> {
CraftPlayer craftPlayer = (CraftPlayer) player;
if (vec.length() <32767) {
craftPlayer.getHandle().connection.send(new ClientboundMoveEntityPacket.Pos(entityID, (short) vec.getX(), (short) vec.getY(), (short) vec.getZ(), false));
}
craftPlayer.getHandle().connection.send(new ClientboundSetEntityMotionPacket(entityID, this.velocity));
});
return this;
}
Random.nextInt(1,101) should give from 1-100
then check for 30 percent for example if number is < 30
restive mango
I have an asynchronous task which runs updateLocation
opal carbon
and obviously that percent could just be a variable
?
wdym
then it doesnt activate
90% chance for that to happen, so 1-90 mean it activates
95 means they dont get it
so make it 100%
ex
warm mica
I have an asynchronous task which runs updateLocation
You shouldn't simulate movement using teleportation. 20 packets + potential ping aren't able to hold up against interpretation handled by the client with potential 165fps
opal carbon
if you want it to have to proc then make it 100% chance to proc
opal carbon
You shouldn't simulate movement using teleportation. 20 packets + potential ping...
physics stuff is handled client side right
some of it at least
warm mica
You shouldn't simulate movement using teleportation. 20 packets + potential ping...
You could alternatively use the new display feature, disable gravity and use velocity instead or put it on an armorstand as a passanger
opal carbon
or am i just stupid
warm mica
physics stuff is handled client side right
For some things. E.g. particles like arrows are being handled client side
For other entities it's usually just using the velocity
opal carbon
thats what else is for
restive mango
You shouldn't simulate movement using teleportation. 20 packets + potential ping...
absolutely, i'd prefer the client handle everything
but i can't tell a client to simulate spinning a floating object made of blocks in 3d space without simulating the movement of all the blocks composing that floating object
opal carbon
if (random <= 10) {
// rare item
} else if (random <= 45) {
// uncommon
} else if (random <= 90) {
// common
} else {
// dogshit
}
warm mica
but i can't tell a client to simulate spinning a floating object made of blocks ...
Before 1.19 you'd have just put the falling block as passanger on an armorstand (maybe disabling gravity also works?). For 1.19.4 i'd def use display entities
restive mango
of the stuttering
I'm on 1.18.2
Uhuh... you realize even if I put it on an armorstand or whatever, it would still have the same problem? In normal MC, falling blocks throw packets every few seconds to update their locations, otherwise everything is done by simply updating motion using ClientboundSetEntityMotionPacket(entityID, velocity)
But I can send more packets more frequently than MC would normally.
Causing it to update the location more often
Now, when I send a motion packet to the FB, when it 'moves', it should 'line up' with where ClientboundMoveEntityPacket places the falling block at, but it doesn't, and I'm not sure why
Maybe my math is broken somewhere
I've been running through different X's to try to find the proper motion, but alas
warm mica
Oh I thought you meant stuttering because of it falling down. That'd be a common question back then
restive mango
no
i just turn off gravity lol
i don't include it in the above
because it was over the character limit
warm mica
Everything is so easy nowadays
restive mango
if (hasNoGravity) {
PacketContainer metapacket = new PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_METADATA);
metapacket.getIntegers().write(0, entityID);
List<WrappedWatchableObject> metadat = new ArrayList<>();
metadat.add(new WrappedWatchableObject(new WrappedDataWatcher.WrappedDataWatcherObject(5, WrappedDataWatcher.Registry.get(Boolean.class)), true));
metapacket.getWatchableCollectionModifier().write(0, metadat);
ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().sendServerPacket(player, metapacket);
}
hm
restive mango
No.
I have a large collection of FBs, say in the shape of a sword. When I 'rotate' that object in space, the relative positions of all those FB's change.
opal carbon
having a hard time understanding your problem then
opal carbon
I have a large collection of FBs, say in the shape of a sword. When I 'rotate' t...
ohhhh
restive mango
I need that rotation to be 'smooth', that is, as the group of FBs move through space, they shouldn't 'stutter'.
opal carbon
hate to be that guy but why not just use texture packs
restive mango
Because it's a server-side plugin.
opal carbon
well duh
restive mango
There are other reasons I want to simulate using BOTH motion and moveentitypackets, namely, that this will allow me to ignore collision.
opal carbon
but server texture packs do exist
restive mango
Anyway, if anywhere here knows why that stuttering exists, or how to fix it, let me know.
(hilariously, the motion packet isn't useful for living entities, go figure, all their movement is interpolated)
though
@warm mica do you know how I could send a packet of an invisible entity with a falling block riding it?
maybe that would solve this problem
opal carbon
isnt that literally exactly the armor stand suggestion
restive mango
that's with MC entities
i'm asking packets
packets avoid having the server simulate hundreds of entities and their collision
compact haven
he wants to have the same goal without the burden of the server knowing about it
restive mango
yuh
restive mango
buy more ram?
opal carbon
just send packets pretending a armor stand exists
compact haven
there is definitely lmao
probably not called “riding entity” though
probably called a Vehicle packet of sorts
compact haven
opal carbon
like if you want to make a fake entity just make a fake entity
compact haven
restive mango
uuuuugh
compact haven
Send the armor stand packet, then the set passengers and it might work
restive mango
well
opal carbon
you just asked how to create a fake entity
restive mango
that is one possible solution
opal carbon
this is how to do it
restive mango
bruh
i know that
what i am hoping for is someone to go 'oh yes that stuttering problem, i fixed it by just sending a server motion packet every other tick instead of every tick'
this is very much a roundabout solution
opal carbon
this is a roundabout problem ngl
gleaming grove
Is possible to get class object of class with generic type?
compact haven
no
at least definitely not that way
Class class is used for runtime nonsense and generics are pretty obsolete at runtime
What’s the actual goal you want to accomplish with clazz
gleaming grove
register to DI container
compact haven
register, and container?
gleaming grove
ok nvm its not related to Spigot
gleaming grove
dependecy injection container
compact haven
I know what DI is but what you just said makes no sense
DI is a principle, are you talking about a DI framework in particular?
because otherwise you just use constructors
no idea what a “container” is in Java to be honest
gleaming grove
For example Spring framework register all classes with @Bean annotation to its DI container
compact haven
oh I have little Spring knowledge but do you mean a class that you can pass that contains all of your typical DI objects instead of passing each object individually?
please delete this epic lmao
gleaming grove
oh I have little Spring knowledge but do you mean a class that you can pass that...
ye
remote swallow
but beans
gleaming grove
oh Xd
compact haven
alright so now I need more information
register how? Are you using Spring or was that just an example?
gleaming grove
register how? Are you using Spring or was that just an example?
Own implementation of DI. Its just pretty handy for to pass class as parameter for type i'm looking for in container. So it's bad that java don't allow to use ConfigOptions<TestConfig>.class in this case
compact haven
yeah you can’t do that
pretty sure that’s the most specific a Class object can get
maybe you can use type tokens somehow which is a major hack?
gleaming grove
well I can bypass this like that
compact haven
pretty sure that the class will not have that generic parameter
like the TestConfig generic won’t be part of the object from getClass()
gleaming grove
like the TestConfig generic won’t be part of the object from getClass()
It seems that generic type is part of object
remote swallow
yeah, its like how lists work
List<String> list = new ArrayList<>()
like you dont add the type on the 2nd half
gleaming grove
as I remember for case List<Some<Stuff>> list = new ArrayList<>() an Stuff type will be not included to relfelctions
compact haven
Some won’t be either
gleaming grove
as I remember for case `List<Some<Stuff>> list = new ArrayList<>()` an `Stuff` ...
is it true?
compact haven
It’s just a List
It’s true and wrong, it’s just a List in reflections, not even a List<Some>
gleaming grove
it is
drowsy helm
generics get removed after compilation, so no you cant get the type
compact haven
idk if you are trying to correct me Jacek because I’m absolutely positive it’s just a List lmfao
gleaming grove
well I've check that. In case of Field you can get the Generic type of list. In case of local variable you can't
compact haven
No you can’t, you can get the class of the first element which is likely to be the generic parameter of the List, that’s all
gleaming grove
var memberType = arrayType.getActualTypeArguments()[0];
var memberClass = Class.forName(memberType.getTypeName());
``` Here is some code that can be use to get generics parametersoh my bad, you’re right
gleaming grove
compact haven
you can’t get it with just the object though is what I mean, at least I’m pretty sure
gleaming grove
yes
compact haven
Only if you have the actual reflection field, and possibly method parameters it’ll work as well
actually not sure how they’re returned for that last bit
buoyant viper
Java 👍
tender shard
java > kotlin
opal carbon
java > kotlin
so true bestie
tender shard
kotlin sucks for a huge amount of reasons, imho.
- caring about what's important. what is more important? the type of something, or the name? imho the type is more important
String someVar;
this is definitely better than this:
someVar: String
-
getters and setters. kotlin thinks it's nice to break encapsulation and just mess around. You can literally do
someObject.someField = anotherValuelike Wtf. Is this now calling a setter? The funny thing is, it depends on whether the setter is available (aka visible). How stupid is that. Why not just use the setter? Erm.... -
"Consiseness" lmao yeah well, no. Kotlin is less lines of code, that is true. and Semicolons in java are useless, I agree with that. But Kotlin only makes everything more complicated. It's so ambiguous, I really do not understand why anyone would use it. Open for suggestions though, ofc
also kotlin claims to use less code than java, but a simple variable declaration needs more chars than java does
not that I'd care about that, but I wanted to mention it
tender shard
kotlin sucks for a huge amount of reasons, imho.
1. caring about what's importa...
just see here
river oracle
kotlin sucks for a huge amount of reasons, imho.
1. caring about what's importa...
its not less chars if you write java like me
I'm a maniac
I include final
:P
final String someVar = "Value";
how does that look like on kotlin?
river oracle
it doesn't
I'm just saying if you're literally mad like me and don't like the compiler do its job its longer :P
tender shard
i dont get it
type > name
kotlin is like "yeah the variable has the following value.... oh and btw it's a string"
like wtf
why not just directly say that it's a string
wary topaz
this one little line of code took 3 hours 🙂
public List<String> getMessageList(String key) { if (language.getStringList(key).equals(Collections.emptyList())) { BufferedReader reader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(this.getResource(translations.language))); return YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(reader).getStringList(key) .stream() .map(s -> s.replace("&", "§")) .collect(Collectors.toList()); } else { return language.getStringList(key) .stream() .map(s -> s.replace("&", "§")) .collect(Collectors.toList()); } }
river oracle
kotlin is like "yeah the variable has the following value.... oh and btw it'...
most modern langauges do name first, but I'd argue since there are a ton of great more modern languages I'm fine putting up with name first even though its not something I prefer. Unfortunately, for kotlin its not one of the more modern languages I care about its a java reskin because google and oracle got in a fight
river oracle
this one little line of code took 3 hours 🙂
`public List<String> getMessageList...
this is terrably inefficent
lavish hull
can someone explain why Deluxe Coinflip shows up as a trojan virus when I download it?
wary topaz
this is terrably inefficent
how?
river oracle
can someone explain why Deluxe Coinflip shows up as a trojan virus when I downlo...
also if it shows up as a trojan make sure @vagrant stratus heres about it
I'd report it and he will deal with it later
on spigot
wary topaz
wary topaz
no it doesnt
tender shard
most modern langauges do name first, but I'd argue since there are a ton of grea...
imho kotlin tries to fix issues that java simply doesn't have
wary topaz
river oracle
also the overhead of loading an entire config for one value
is horrid idea
cache the config
tender shard
imho kotlin tries to fix issues that java simply doesn't have
e.g. nullability
river oracle
and reuse it
tender shard
nullability is not an issue, it's a feature
wary topaz
its a static config which means I can access it anywhere
tender shard
oh yeah that reminds me, kotlin does not even support static members
"companion objects" lmao yeah, no
tender shard
most modern langauges do name first, but I'd argue since there are a ton of grea...
every language that thinks "name is more important than type" has not understood some very important concepts imho
wary topaz
wish the yamlconfiguration accepted inputstreams else I wouldnt have to go through the trouble of all of that code
and yes ik its deprecated
tender shard
wish the yamlconfiguration accepted inputstreams else I wouldnt have to go throu...
it does accept a reader
wary topaz
yes a buffered reader
tender shard
and no, it's not deprecated
tender shard
yes a buffered reader
it accepts any reader
wary topaz
check rn its dep
tender shard
wary topaz
I said inputstream
wary topaz
BufferedReader reader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(this.getResource(translations.language)));
wary topaz
https://paste.ethannetwork.net/lulivajasu.java
^
tender shard
why are you wrapping it into a BR, that's not needed
wary topaz
fixed lol
tender shard
does it work correctly now?
wary topaz
ye
InputStreamReader.
CharArrayReader.
FileReader.
PipedReader.
BufferedReader.
FilterReader.
PushbackReader.
LineNumberReader. 🙂
opal carbon
are you jeff or alex
wary topaz
are you jeff or alex
?ask
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opal carbon
what
wary topaz
do you have a question?
opal carbon
i was asking if he is jeff or alex
wary topaz
#general
opal carbon
that was the question
river oracle
every language that thinks "name is more important than type" has not understood...
Rust...
a great lang
river oracle
no, Go is for different things
river oracle
you should use Go to solve problems go is best at solving
and Rust to sovle problems rust is best at solving
opal carbon
rust is the only name first language i respect
river oracle
rust is the only name first language i respect
no respec for python 😢
opal carbon
i despise python
wary topaz
opal carbon
python is one of my least favorite languages
river oracle
i despise python
hmmmm? What was your first language
wary topaz
opal carbon
python was my first but after learning new languages i hate it lol
river oracle
poor python
wary topaz
python gives me aques
river oracle
its so great, but no one loves
opal carbon
its main good quality is the fact so many people use it
river oracle
its main good quality is the fact so many people use it
its also just easy and extremely fast to write
its a scripting language after all
its goal isn't blazingly fast programs like C or C++
wary topaz
who hates arraylists cause I just found a better option
river oracle
who hates arraylists cause I just found a better option
why would you hate ArrayLists
wary topaz
`import java.util.Map;
import java.util.TreeMap;
public class Main {
public static void main(String[] args) {
Map<String, Integer> treeMap = new TreeMap<>();
// Adding elements to the tree map
treeMap.put("A", 1);
treeMap.put("C", 3);
treeMap.put("B", 2);
// Getting values from the tree map
int valueA = treeMap.get("A");
System.out.println("Value of A: " + valueA);
// Removing elements from the tree map
treeMap.remove("B");
// Iterating over the elements of the tree map
for (String key : treeMap.keySet()) {
System.out.println("Key: " + key + ", Value: " + treeMap.get(key));
}
}
}` ||(joke)||
river oracle
they are a good data structure
wary topaz
lmfao
opal carbon
its goal isn't blazingly fast programs like C or C++
okay but i most of all hate doing : then indentation to show functions
river oracle
okay but i most of all hate doing : then indentation to show functions
I get not liking the syntax but it is geared to be as stupidly simple as possible
opal carbon
I get not liking the syntax but it is geared to be as stupidly simple as possibl...
yeah thats the only reason i dont like it
its simple as shit
but also i hate its syntax
and lack of any sort of decent typing
river oracle
typing in python is very strong if you use it
river oracle
number: int = 582
kinda like ruins the whole point of python
river oracle
kinda like ruins the whole point of python
not really I mean who makes a value of a type than randomly switches the type of that value
that's a design flaw
opal carbon
not really I mean who makes a value of a type than randomly switches the type of...
yes i know
but its possible
wary topaz
🤡
opal carbon
im saying typing being weird
like it should be mandatory
and at least in ts you can trust people are probably gonna use typing otherwise they wouldnt be using ts
opal carbon
why did you make a wrapper for buildtools
river oracle
would have taken way longer in java
opal carbon
this doesnt need to exist
river oracle
why did you make a wrapper for buildtools
adding paper support when i get around to it
opal carbon
ah
opal carbon
would have taken way longer in java
true
river oracle
also manages cacheing etc though its not fully flexible yet with the cacheing
opal carbon
simple scripts are what python is good for
i just dont like when people take super fancy massive projects
and do it in python
river oracle
if someone makes a big project in python they are stupid
opal carbon
just dont like reading large py code
opal carbon
if someone makes a big project in python they are stupid
ok so we agree
river oracle
unless the project is AI, then Its semi-excusable
it'd still be better to use C, but I'd understand not wanting to touch that shit show
opal carbon
dayum
but yeah python is fine as a scripting language
but large projects in python just feel confusing to me
river oracle
I have uncoditional love for python as my favorite scripting language
(javascript can just go die)
opal carbon
i prefer js over py for most projects ngl
opal carbon
discord.js my beloved
river oracle
I code my discord bots in java
opal carbon
i use nodejs as just a scripting language
for small projects
like for example a stock checker for those peepy stuffed animal things
river oracle
also main reason I use py, is because latest version comes preinstalled on most linux distro
so it just makes it super portable
opal carbon
i made a stock checker for those lol
in js
im fine with py as long as it's used as a scripting languages i just hate having to look through big ass codebases with no brackets
the lack of brackets scares me
im just happy i made a little wrapper for bungee messaging channel i cant wait to hopefully never touch it again
like ill have to look at docs more cause all i did is make the messages automatically send but they dont know the specific data to send or anything
but its less work then writing everything to the message
buoyant viper
would have taken way longer in java
hey listen BTGUI only took me uh
too long
to get working the way i wanted it to
started as an afternoon project ended up taking like a good week
scenic onyx
"TextComponent message = new TextComponent(ConfigUtil.getplayerconfig((Player) p, "TpaArrivato"));
message.setClickEvent(new ClickEvent(ClickEvent.Action.RUN_COMMAND, "/tp " + p.getName() + " " + target.getName()));
target.spigot().sendMessage(message);" How do I get it to run from the console?
sullen marlin
dont cast to player
scenic onyx
How do I not do this from the player?
desert tinsel
Does anyone know how to use firebase with spigot, if there is a library or smth?
desert tinsel
just use the firebase java library
Could not find artifact com.google.firebase:firebase-firestore:pom:24.6.1 in spigotmc-repo I tried to use https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.google.firebase/firebase-firestore/24.6.1 maven dependency
desert tinsel
Need to add google repo
like this?
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>spigotmc-repo</id>
<url>https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/</url>
</repository>
<repository>
<id>sonatype</id>
<url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/</url>
</repository>
<repository>
<id>google</id>
<url>https://maven.google.com/</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
<version>1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.google.firebase</groupId>
<artifactId>firebase-firestore</artifactId>
<version>24.6.1</version>
</dependency>
</dependencies>```cause I get the same error
silent belfry
Does anyone know any alternative to Hibernate that works using libraries flag in plugin.yml
sullen marlin
Whats not working
silent belfry
still get this
with this issue
Using 1.19.4
but I can give you full stack trace log if you want it
silent belfry
Whats not working
any help is appreciated
sullen marlin
Not running spigot
warm mica
I posted my code here: <https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/libraries-flag-in-plugi...
I'm pretty sure that either your hibernate code is wrong or that hibernate uses reflection to access your class, in which case you'd have to somehow pass your plugin's classloader to hibernate
Using another library won't fix that. This is not caused by a spigot bug or hibernate. It's just that two components are being loaded by different class loader
By default, Class.forName (without passing a classloader) only goes through the classloader you currently are in and your parents. That being e.g. your plugin and the system classloader (used for Bukkit, NMS etc)
Alternatively you could also use hibernate with annotations instead of declaring everything in that xml file
But I may also be wrong. I am not certain how Spigot handles that internally
quiet ice
I mean technically it could be fixed on spigot's by using different classloading techniques. But classloading is painful from time to time with many rouge bugs so I understand if one doesn't touch it
blissful wagon
how we can get all entities with specified scroeboard tag ? like how we do it with command @e[tag=test]
or at least how we can get a list of every entity in server ?
nvm
hazy warren
BlockDisplay#setIntepolationDuration doesn't seem to be working for me.
I assume it works by simply setting the delay, and afterwards all following transformations will take X ticks to interpolate?
I've set the duration to 10 but all transformations happen instantly
young vine
I find the two new type classes pretty cool but it's pain that plugins developer...
Supporting outdated versions should never be a concern for new API, the only concern is that a easy migration path exists. Supporting old shit is a you problem. You choose to go thru that pain, even tho the majority of servers are always on latest.
People with a mentality like you are the reason why the Bukkit API is in such a horrible state and we have to push back on that mentality whenever possible to be able to move forward
Glad to see that Choco agrees
quiet ice
Yeah honestly there is little point in supporting older versions
usually there is an older download of your plugin or a specifically made backport if you fancy latter so it is not as if the people running older servers are missing a lot. But new plugins should be written for new technology (which will get outdated in 5 years time but that is another issue)
warm mica
People with a mentality like you are the reason why the Bukkit API is in such a ...
"People like me"? Wtf? Sorry for not wanting you to break like thousands of plugins and server with a minor change that can easily be prevented? It's not about not wanting to move over, it's about making the transition easier
If you can't provide a proper stable API that doesn't break in the span of 5 updates, I could just as well use NMS
Only thing that I want is that the new materials are being added to the Material enum as well. It's that simple
eternal oxide
No point
The API has been stable and not broken in MANY years. This is a change that is long overdue. Time to break.
warm mica
It's not like as if there is anything that'd hold up from doing that. Just the mentality of the people responsible for that
Imagine if windows would remove 32bit support for programs just because they feel like it. Exact same thing
eternal oxide
Material Enum is already a nightmare. It kills IDE's for many people
tardy delta
download sources
eternal oxide
Imagine if Windows removed outdated 32bit support after MANY years of legacy support, in a NEW release. Some would complain. Many would update.
lone jacinth
There is a compatibility layer provided (where multiple days worth of hours were put into) to make sure older plugins will stile work
warm mica
Imagine if Windows removed outdated 32bit support after MANY years of legacy sup...
However, there are tons of programs that still run 32bit that people can't move from. Microsoft didn't remove it because there is literally no benefit in doing that, it'd just annoy everyone
icy beacon
if anyone has ever worked with Reflections please take a look and tell me if this is obviously wrong or if it could potentially work
i want to go through every class in a package and create an instance of it
eternal oxide
Every plugin I've written supports teh version it was written for and backwards. Going forward I'll support only the new system. If people want older versions they can download the appropriate jar.
icy beacon
if anyone has ever worked with Reflections please take a look and tell me if thi...
i just kinda stole it from stackoverflow so this might be obviously wrong and outdated to someone who's worked with the lib before, if not, i'll test it later today
warm mica
Every plugin I've written supports teh version it was written for and backwards....
That's the lazy solution
eternal oxide
However, there are tons of programs that still run 32bit that people can't move ...
Do you expect MS will retain 32bit support JUST for old programs? or do you think there is another reason?
warm mica
It's not like as if the Material enum disappears with the update. It'll still he very actively used with many following updates
It's a transition. 32bit -> 64bit was a transition as well
warm mica
I think they shoudl actually break teh API with 1.20
For what reason?
eternal oxide
performance
warm mica
Performance. By removing that one class from the memory
eternal oxide
yes
warm mica
Lets just make everyone spend tons of time into forcing them to do something that can easily be avoided just to save a couple of bytes in the memory
eternal oxide
yeah, a "couple of bytes"
warm mica
Literally. You won't notice a difference
A mob spawned in your world likely consumes more
eternal oxide
probably, but I think it's time to trim the fat.
warm mica
As I said, you just want to get rid of it because you feel like it. Not because there is actually any benefit in doing that
eternal oxide
There is guaranteed to be a benefit to removing it.
My reason for removing it is two fold.
Performance for one. Second is it would clean the gene pool of all old and outdated plugins. Those willing to update would be be clean.
hazy parrot
Look up about weighted random
tardy delta
are those supposed to add up to 100
quiet ice
Yeah, you'd need to change the values so they add up to 100 first
Except if you just do other tricks - I guess that would work too
scenic onyx
TextComponent message = new TextComponent(ConfigUtil.getplayerconfig((Player) p, "TpaArrived"));
message.setClickEvent(new ClickEvent(ClickEvent.Action.RUN_COMMAND, "/tp " + target.getName() + " " + p.getName()));
target.spigot().sendMessage(message);
how do i make the console execute the command?
and dont't the player
eternal oxide
If you have 10 items all with a 90% chance, how do you expect to decide which it shoudl give?
I don;t believe you understand percentage chance
you tell us what you want it to do
scenic onyx
no, i want when i click the message the console execute it
the code you gave me executes the command and that's it, I want to put it when I click but I don't know how to do it
eternal oxide
Do what? You need to explain how you want it to work
eternal oxide
sour folio
Hey there, im trying to make a homesGUI plugin, how would i go about creating a folder that stores all the player data, so in the homesGUI folder there would be a UserData folder with many files of all the userID's with homes
sullen marlin
new File(plugin.getDataFolder(), "UserData").mkdir()
tall dragon
Hey there, im trying to make a homesGUI plugin, how would i go about creating a ...
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/working-with-data.562421/ this is quite a nice resource to read for that
sour folio
Thanks for all the help, appreciated 👍
solemn dome
Hey! I'm working on a framework for integration testing on Spigot plugins and I was wondering if you were interested in such a thing. The wiki entry is here: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/testing-with-watchwolf/ any feedback/suggestion is appreciated. Thanks!
young vine
"People like me"? Wtf? Sorry for not wanting you to break like thousands of plug...
It's not even a fucking break, lmao
Just a deprecation
Nothing major will be broken, the cases that will be broken has been warned for for years, in literally every major spigot update post
This API didn't change in 11 years
11 fucking years
Even tho Mojang completely rewrote their code in 1.13, which forced plugins to adopt anyways, but spigot decided to not change the API
That was the error right there
When Mojang did the flattening it would have been the perfect time to do this change
young vine
Imagine if windows would remove 32bit support for programs just because they fee...
Apple did remove 32bit support, forcing everybody to update
And they did, nobody really complained
young vine
However, there are tons of programs that still run 32bit that people can't move ...
You don't know that. Removing old code is always a benefit. Removing compatibility layers is always a benefit. Reducing maintenance burden, code complexity, easier to innovate, etc
orchid gazelle
Apple 🤮
young vine
Every plugin I've written supports teh version it was written for and backwards....
👏 👏, that's how everybody should do it. Don't let yourself hostage by a handful of idiots that decided to run outdated versions, holding back the majority of servers that actually update and taking a huge hit on your sanity
orchid gazelle
You don't know that. Removing old code is always a benefit. Removing compatibili...
Removing old software is not a benefit
young vine
I said code
young vine
Removing old code from your codebase is a major benefit
quiet ice
I'd like to see 32 bit compat gone
young vine
Apple fully removed 32bit compat years ago
quiet ice
Too much is still using 32 bit. It's time to embrace technology
young vine
Was it Catalina?
quiet ice
Half the software im using, gone
that is the point I'm making
orchid gazelle
Too much is still using 32 bit. It's time to embrace technology
Old software will just break and not update
young vine
Software can be updated
quiet ice
Then just don't use old software?
orchid gazelle
But won't
young vine
If it's not getting updated, chances are you shouldn't use it anyways
If it's Foss, somebody will make the update
shadow night
They would have to announce: "You either update to 64-bit or your application is not runnable"
orchid gazelle
Then just don't use old software?
When I need old software, I need old software
young vine
If it's commercial software, there is an incentive
young vine
They would have to announce: "You either update to 64-bit or your application is...
Well of course, apple did a grace period, warned on starting a 32bit app, etc
orchid gazelle
You cannot expect some 10 year old open-source project made by one person that now has a full-time job to get updated
young vine
Just like spigot gave a big warning about the material enum, will but it a compat layer for a few versions and then hopefully nuke the material enum and the compat layer
shadow night
You cannot expect some 10 year old open-source project made by one person that n...
The community is gonna update it then, there will be atleast one person
orchid gazelle
The community is gonna update it then, there will be atleast one person
Not if the project is unknown
young vine
You cannot expect some 10 year old open-source project made by one person that n...
For most people it's just recompiling, lol
shadow night
Not if the project is unknown
Atleast one person
orchid gazelle
One person will not make the effort and update
Also, they would have to confirm the PR
young vine
There is always gonna be impact
orchid gazelle
Which they won't if they don't care
young vine
But should we hold back innovation because of that?
orchid gazelle
Maybe
eternal oxide
Its been years in the making. Time for breaking changes
young vine
Exactly
orchid gazelle
Take Materials
shadow night
I wonder what will happen to 32-bit devices
orchid gazelle
They are gonna break a stupidly high amount of plugins
Which will never come back
ivory sleet
the Material enum is subject for removal even in spigot rather soon (or at least deprecation from what I understand)
orchid gazelle
Since half of the old spigot devs are 10y/o kids that don't even know about those changes
shadow night
the Material enum is subject for removal even in spigot rather soon (or at least...
Why
young vine
Because there is a compat layer
eternal oxide
If a plugin breaks and is popular it will be updated
eternal oxide
if its not popular it won't be missed
orchid gazelle
And the code must be public
eternal oxide
not essential
orchid gazelle
Yeah yeah lets just rewrite 100k plugins, its that easy
warm mica
👏 👏, that's how everybody should do it. Don't let yourself hostage by a handfu...
You basically called every plugin developer and server owner an idiot. Congratz. I don't think that there is anyone who enjoys to do work that could be avoided by people who'd have just thought a step further
young vine
But again, if a plugin doesn't receive updates in general, you shouldn't use it anyways and look for alternative
ivory sleet
Why
because there are more accurate ways to represent item materials, and block materials etc
eternal oxide
No just the ones that break and are popular enough to need it
orchid gazelle
There is gonna be damage for sure
I know that there will be plugins I need and cannot use in the future because of that
young vine
You basically called every plugin developer and server owner an idiot. Congratz....
No, only idiots are idiots. Running ancient software is idiotic. Supporting ancient software is idiotic.
And the work can't be avoided
lone jacinth
Yeah yeah lets just rewrite 100k plugins, its that easy
You can make a program (which already somewhat exists) to make it automatically.
young vine
We need to move forward
orchid gazelle
No, only idiots are idiots. Running ancient software is idiotic. Supporting anci...
Thats wrong for some things
warm mica
No, only idiots are idiots. Running ancient software is idiotic. Supporting anci...
It's idiotic to declare something ancient that hasn't even been deprecated yet
eternal oxide
grasping at straws now
orchid gazelle
For example, minecraft content modding. Way better in the past
eternal oxide
Subjective
orchid gazelle
Well, is it really? You cannot deny variety
young vine
It's idiotic to declare something ancient that hasn't even been deprecated yet
It's not deprecated because there is no alternative. The PR that brings the alternative will deprecated the material enum, but not break anything.
Plus it has been verbally deprecated in literally every single spigot update post of the recent versions
warm mica
It's not deprecated because there is no alternative. The PR that brings the alte...
All I literally want is that the Material enum receives the new materials as well. This'd add a transition that'd make it easier for everyone. Never said that moving on is a bad idea
young vine
All I literally want is that the Material enum receives the new materials as wel...
But why
orchid gazelle
All I literally want is that the Material enum receives the new materials as wel...
^
warm mica
Because it is literally no effort? And it's a huge ton of work to update all these plugins?
young vine
To use new materials you would need to compile against a new spigot version anyways, they only work on new spigot versions, you have no reason to not adopt the new API then
young vine
Because it is literally no effort? And it's a huge ton of work to update all the...
Not really
tender shard
the Material enum is subject for removal even in spigot rather soon (or at least...
soon(TM)
young vine
Structural find and replace can catch most of the places most likely
tender shard
Because it is literally no effort? And it's a huge ton of work to update all the...
dw, class loader will do some bytecode magic
warm mica
Structural find and replace can catch most of the places most likely
And now do that for almost any plugin, in which many cases aren't as easy as to just replace the word
tender shard
unless you do use an EnumSet, you'll be alright
young vine
And now do that for almost any plugin, in which many cases aren't as easy as to ...
You will have ages to update most likely
orchid gazelle
ctrl r Material -> new name
Ah yes where do you detect if its a BlockType or ItemType then?
young vine
No rush needed
lone jacinth
unless you do use an EnumSet, you'll be alright
There is a compatibility layer for EnumSets
tardy delta
BlockType being for what?
tender shard
There is a compatibility layer for EnumSets
there is? I did not know that
warm mica
I find it fascinating how a lot of people here enjoy literally avoidable work
warm mica
It's unavoidable
Adding new entries to the Material enum is unavoidable?
tender shard
I find it fascinating how a lot of people here enjoy literally avoidable work
you probably have not understood the reasoning for the change
warm mica
you probably have not understood the reasoning for the change
I have never said that I have something against the change
lone jacinth
there is? I did not know that
Was added this week
orchid gazelle
Hi
solemn dome
Adding new entries to the Material enum is unavoidable?
Enums in java have a limit on how entries can have, and Minecraft is touching that limit
tender shard
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young vine
The compat layer for enum sets is expensive tho
tender shard
The compat layer for enum sets is expensive tho
and pointless, probably
quaint mantle
public class rtp implements CommandExecutor {
private HashMap<UUID,Long> cooldown = new HashMap<UUID, Long>();
private int cooldowntime = 10;
@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args) {
if (sender instanceof Player){
if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("rtp")){
Random random = new Random();
Player p = (Player) sender;
if (cooldown.containsKey(p.getUniqueId())){
long timeLeft = ((cooldown.get(p.getUniqueId()) /1000) + cooldowntime) - (System.currentTimeMillis() /1000);
if (timeLeft > 0){
if (timeLeft <= 4){
p.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Możesz się teleportować dopiero za " + timeLeft + " sekundy");
}
else {
p.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Możesz się teleportować dopiero za " + timeLeft + " sekund");
}
}
}
else{
int x = random.nextInt(1000);
int y = 150;
int z = random.nextInt(1000);
Location location = new Location(p.getWorld(),x,y,z);
y = location.getWorld().getHighestBlockYAt(location);
location.setY(y);
p.teleport(location);
cooldown.put(p.getUniqueId(),System.currentTimeMillis());
}
}
}
else {
Bukkit.getConsoleSender().sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Komenda może być wykonana tylko za poziomu klienta gry!");
}
return false;
}
}
Yeah, using an enum set for material is stupid, lmao
tender shard
Yeah, using an enum set for material is stupid, lmao
yeah it was announced 2 years ago that people should not use them for stuff like this, anymore
tardy delta
```java
public class rtp implements CommandExecutor {
private HashMap<UUID,L...
hmm insert some early returns in that lol
warm mica
Enums in java have a limit on how entries can have, and Minecraft is touching th...
There are 2746 entries in that enum?
young vine
No like it brings no benefit because the enum is so large, it's gonna degrade to a normal hash set anyways, iirc
quaint mantle
after cooldown command don't teleport player
young vine
There are 2746 entries in that enum?
The class itself is getting to large
Like the class file
tender shard
```java
public class rtp implements CommandExecutor {
private HashMap<UUID,L...
it looks like you only teleport the player if they are NOT in the hashmap, which makes little sense
orchid gazelle
The class itself is getting to large
Whats the issue with a huge class file?
tender shard
the actual issue is that using an enum will prevent dynamically adding new entries, e.g. because of data packs etc
shadow night
How do I make a cooldown for the user of a certain item? Like on some servers there is a counter on the xp bar
solemn dome
There are 2746 entries in that enum?
~1k
orchid gazelle
Thats fair
young vine
It's also a massive burden on mc Updates, have you seen all the switch cases?
quaint mantle
how to fix it?
orchid gazelle
I don't have an issue with changing, but for god sake just let compat be there
orchid gazelle
Not forever
tender shard
how to fix it?
step one: add a comment to every line that explains what it does, I'm sure you'll then find out the problem yourself
young vine
Forward compat is stupid
shadow night
How do I make a cooldown for the user of a certain item? Like on some servers th...
I have no idea how that would work
warm mica
Nothing that'd prevent them to add further entries for the next few updates until everyone has transitioned
orchid gazelle
No its not
young vine
Nobody will transition then
tender shard
I have no idea how that would work
you can use the builtin cooldown feature
Player#setCooldown(...)
tardy delta
I have no idea how that would work
young vine
If you just let everything continue to work we can never actual remove the enum because the cry would be too large
orchid gazelle
Imagine that you got some guy that made you a commission 2 years ago. You still use the plugin because it is great. Then its bonked
young vine
Instead we can use that little trick to force people to update their code if they are touching it for new blocks or items anyways
tender shard
i remember how 1.13 broke literally every existing plugin, because people kept ignoring the announcement "item IDs will soon get removed"
shadow night
you can use the builtin cooldown feature
Is it that minecraft built-in cooldown like ender pearls?
tender shard
Is it that minecraft built-in cooldown like ender pearls?
yes
exactly that's what it is
young vine
i remember how 1.13 broke literally every existing plugin, because people kept i...
Spigot should have removed the material enum in 1.13
Or well deprecated and remove later
tender shard
Spigot should have removed the material enum in 1.13
but there was no replacement for it back then
shadow night
exactly that's what it is
Is it a thing in 1.8.8? I would love to use a newer version but the way my server is doesn't let me do that
orchid gazelle
Spigot should have removed the material enum in 1.13
I agree there since it already broke everything
If you break every plugin, make ALL important changes to that point
young vine
The PR we have right now could have been done back then
tender shard
Is it a thing in 1.8.8? I would love to use a newer version but the way my serve...
I don't know anything about 1.8
warm mica
If you just let everything continue to work we can never actual remove the enum ...
That'd be their fault then if you'd have announced it beforehand. But giving them no time and expecting things to go fluently is just a bad solution
young vine
There have been plenty announcements
warm mica
It's not like as if not adding the new entries would prevent anyone from using it
young vine
Plus again, there will be a compat layer
tender shard
The PR we have right now could have been done back then
true. but just to be sure again - was this actually merged now? Material is now not an enum anymore, but a normal class with public static final fields that implements Keyed, right?
warm mica
The class is still there
tender shard
true. but just to be sure again - was this actually merged now? Material is now ...
I will run buildtools now and check it out
lone jacinth
The PR we have right now could have been done back then
You would need to find a person which would have been willing to make all those changes back than
young vine
true. but just to be sure again - was this actually merged now? Material is now ...
Split into items and blocks
tender shard
Split into items and blocks
great!
young vine
You would need to find a person which would have been willing to make all those ...
I would have loved to do it
But I knew I wouldn't have a chance
tender shard
did you not sign the CLA or what lol
young vine
Am happy that MD finally sees that it's important now
But he wouldn't have been open to it back then
People tried pushing it back then
orchid gazelle
If you do that drastic changes, finally give me a mixin-loader lmao
young vine
Oh god please no
warm mica
Or well deprecated and remove later
That'd have been a great opportunity, I agree
tender shard
If you do that drastic changes, finally give me a mixin-loader lmao
never gonna happen for spigot
tender shard
Imagine if you give them mixins
please, no
orchid gazelle
never gonna happen for spigot
Gonna have to somehow get a JavaAgent in there then
quiet ice
Imagine if you give them mixins
Yes please
shadow night
Imagine if you give them mixins
Don't, minecraft will die
young vine
It would be a desaster of incompabilities
quiet ice
Finally I can fix stupid plugins not being compatible with my plugin
solemn dome
I'm sure someone will do some kind of library/plugin that fixes this issue...
young vine
Exactly, monkey patching other plugins code, wooooooo
icy beacon
how do I properly setup MockBukkit? i remember that there was something that I had to add to my main plugin class, but it's not in the docs anymore and now i get an error at this line:
plugin = MockBukkit.load(UnderscoreEnchants::class.java)
young vine
What could go wrong
tender shard
hm material still is an enum
quiet ice
What could go wrong
I mean my Slimefun transformer seems to work. Didn't get any bug reports yet
lone jacinth
Plugin devs already do stupid shit
It will be interesting to see what plugin devs come up with to still support 1.8.8 and up.
orchid gazelle
What if I finally write my system to get a JavaAgent inject at runtime, overwrite some shit and go STONKS?
young vine
I don't give a shit about please that touch 1.8
dire marsh
material IDs
kek
young vine
They deserve all the pain and suffering possible
young vine
What if I finally write my system to get a JavaAgent inject at runtime, overwrit...
That's not possible on modern java anyways
solemn dome
It will be interesting to see what plugin devs come up with to still support 1.8...
I'm one of those devs... Just a singletone class with interfaces that each "MC version" implements different
orchid gazelle
Why not
orchid gazelle
They removed the ability to self inject
Wow thats VERY bad
ocean hollow
if I need to load content from the past inventory, should I do that?
orchid gazelle
Fuck them for doing that
orchid gazelle
<https://github.com/xxDark/Unsolver-8306275>
Lmao
Can I run that shit on runtime?
quiet ice
Yep and from a remote process
quiet ice
It was made by the Recaf guys
quiet ice
Whatever Recaf is, they deserve to win the lottery rn
what the fuck are you doing then
quiet ice
If you have never heard about recaf you shouldn't be doing bytecode patching
warm mica
https://openjdk.org/jeps/451
I thought that this was already not possible
orchid gazelle
Recaf, yeah
quiet ice
Stupid BCV users, smh