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tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:40 PM

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if you really care about uniqueness just have an atomicinteger counter 🥲

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:40 PM

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There are only 2^32 possible identity hashcodes and over the full lifetime of an application there can be much more than 2^32 objects. So some are bound to have duplicated hashcodes

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:40 PM

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quiet ice There are only 2^32 possible identity hashcodes and over the full lifetime of an...

object references are 32 bit though

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so no 2^32 objects at once

ivory sleet May 6, 2023, 3:40 PM

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System::identityHashCode is fine as default impl for Object because whenever Object::equals is true, Object::hashCode should be the same for the 2 objects

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And that obeys contract

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:41 PM

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isnt Object#hashcode native?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:41 PM

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glossy venture object references are 32 bit though

Wut? I thought they allow more than that

ivory sleet May 6, 2023, 3:41 PM

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It returns identically to identityHashCode

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iirc

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 3:41 PM

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Let me say this, I had a hashmap check function where the block.getDrops(item) is if( Arrays.asList(BlockFace.UP,BlockFace.DOWN).contains(face) ) { for(int x = -size; x <= size; x++){ for(int z = -size; z <= size; z++){ if( !(x != 0 || z != 0) ) { continue; } if( !block.getRelative(x, 0, z).getDrops(item).isEmpty() ) { block.getRelative(x, 0, z).breakNaturally(item); } }} }But if you had the hashmap with 25-100 objects, what is there to improve?

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:41 PM

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hmm

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:42 PM

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quiet ice Wut? I thought they allow more than that

if your jvm doesnt have more than 32 gb of memory the implementation spec says its a type 1 computational type
so 32 bits

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but 4 billion objects is a lot

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more than enough

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:42 PM

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That max address size for 32 bit applications if 2-4Gb fyi

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:42 PM

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yeah but an object reference isnt an address

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:43 PM

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quiet ice That max address size for 32 bit applications if 2-4Gb fyi

2GB if PAE is not used, otherwise 4GB

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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glossy venture but 4 billion objects is a lot

actually more then 4billion objects can be addressed in 32bit

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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wet breach 2GB if PAE is not used, otherwise 4GB

Hence 2-4

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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this is because that each object doesn't take up a full 32bits to address and also how Java addresses objects as well

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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if u had 4 billion Objects im pretty sure the headers would already be over 32 gb of memory

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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wet breach actually more then 4billion objects can be addressed in 32bit

tf

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how

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at once

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:45 PM

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According to https://wiki.openjdk.org/display/lilliput objects have to be quite large in JVM world

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The identity hashcode field is already 64 bits long

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However since the object is not aware of it's own address I can fairly state that no, there can be more than 2^32 objects at the same time

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:46 PM

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16 byte object headers sometimes 🙏

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:47 PM

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isnt the first 64 bits multi purpose

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not just identity hash code

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:47 PM

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But the identity hashcode part is 64 bit long

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:48 PM

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where is that stored

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:48 PM

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Ah no. I read it wrong

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:48 PM

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quiet ice However since the object is not aware of it's own address I can fairly state tha...

in 32bit java, its 8bytes instead of 16

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:49 PM

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theres physically no way to reference more than 2^32 objects with 32 bits

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:49 PM

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that means in a single 32bit address size, you could store 4 objects

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:49 PM

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glossy venture theres physically no way to reference more than 2^32 objects with 32 bits

Yes, but modern hotspot uses 64 bits

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The identity hashcode is - contrary to popular belief - not the memory address, so the fact that it is 31 bit long is irrelevant

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:50 PM

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no shit its an int

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Ugh. Let me just do a test then

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:50 PM

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quiet ice Yes, but modern hotspot uses 64 bits

for what

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object references?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:53 PM

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glossy venture theres physically no way to reference more than 2^32 objects with 32 bits

you do know that Java can compress references right? If an object doesn't use up the entire width of an address space, Java will place another object in there

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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glossy venture for what

CPU instructions

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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wtf now we talking abt cpu instructions??

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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bytecode ig

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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you mean addresses

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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wet breach you do know that Java can compress references right? If an object doesn't use up...

no i didnt know that

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what if another object gets that reference normally

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without compressing

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you still only have 2^32 possibilities

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right

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:55 PM

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if java didn't compress yes

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:56 PM

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that doesnt give u more possibilities in a 32 bit number

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:56 PM

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I think you are not understanding

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here is an analogy in how you can fit more in less

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:56 PM

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im 100% sure im not understanding

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:57 PM

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if you have 32 slots, but 64 things. Nothing said you could double up the things in a single slot. So therefore, you could place 2 things in each slot

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the amount of things exceeded the number of slots

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but it still stored them

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:57 PM

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If I had more than 32 Gb of memory I might be able to test it for use but as it seems I am unable to obtain enough space vm-wise

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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are we talking about storing partial objects in an address space 👀

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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wet breach if you have 32 slots, but 64 things. Nothing said you could double up the things...

so java stores multiple objects under the same reference?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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But it still seems to be able to use up 20 Gb no problemo

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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im talking about object references here not addresses

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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quiet ice But it still seems to be able to use up 20 Gb no problemo

that has nothing to do with the object references

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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glossy venture so java stores multiple objects under the same reference?

it wouldn't be the same reference per-say, that is why offsets exist you know

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:58 PM

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Aren't they the same thing fundementally so?

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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nah a reference is not an address into memory im pretty sure

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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...

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You mean reference?

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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object reference

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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glossy venture nah a reference is not an address into memory im pretty sure

a reference does require a pointer, however duplicate copies of the reference don't require their own pointers

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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that 32 bit number

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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isnt that an address offset?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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but there does have to be at least 1 pointer

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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glossy venture that 32 bit number

that is the i-hashcode

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 3:59 PM

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yeah?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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I already said it before lol

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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all i know is that i read in the jvm spec that object references are 32 bit unless youre on a 64 bit system and have more than 32 gb of memory allocated to the jvm

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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There is bound to be duplication in the i-hashcode

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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quiet ice There are only 2^32 possible identity hashcodes and over the full lifetime of an...

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glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:01 PM

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i mean at once

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a reference doesnt need to account for past objects

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:02 PM

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glossy venture all i know is that i read in the jvm spec that object references are 32 bit unle...

references or pointer addresses are indeed 32bits, however nothing said that only 1 object must occupy the entire width of that address space either. You can split that address space and put 2 objects as long as they fit. If java determines that it can't make use of the entire width for any other objects it just pads out the rest of the width

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 4:02 PM

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Even at once there could be more than 2^32 but you need a very beefy PC for that

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:02 PM

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quiet ice Even at once there could be more than 2^32 but you need a very beefy PC for that

i dont see a single use case where youd have more than 4 billion objects at once

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and if there is one

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dont use java

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

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wet breach references or pointer addresses are indeed 32bits, however nothing said that onl...

every object is a minimum of 16 bytes

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

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In the future you might see such usage

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

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right

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ig theyll update the jvm then

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

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glossy venture every object is a minimum of 16 bytes

16bytes for 64bit, 8bytes for 32bit

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

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ok yeah

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how can one pointer point to 2 8-byte objects

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:04 PM

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because you have an offset

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:04 PM

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to memory?

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does java multiply the object reference by 32 bytes and use that or smth?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:04 PM

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yes, and as well as if memory didn't have one you could just have your program remember the offset of a given address

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:05 PM

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im so confused

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so one object reference can point to two objects?
im not talking about pointers into memory im talking about jvm object reference
the values passed around on the stack and shit during execution of a java program to reference objects on the heap

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:06 PM

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jvm object references requires at least 1 pointer

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:06 PM

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so the object reference points to a table which has a pointer to the object in memory

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:06 PM

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how would you exhaust the amount of addresses on the stack 👀

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i believe im mixing up between the word address and reference lol

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:07 PM

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or does a reference contain the pointer into memory

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for an object

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:07 PM

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typically they contain the pointer into memory, otherwise some equality checks wouldn't really be possible

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:08 PM

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but that would limit it to 32-bits of memory

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so like 4 gb

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which it isnt

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:08 PM

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if we assume each object takes up an entire memory address width

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:09 PM

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wtf is a memory address width

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you mean like a byte for normal pointers

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how big one block is?

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:09 PM

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java reference impl https://github.com/openjdk/jdk15/blob/e208d9aa1f185c11734a07db399bab0be77ef15f/src/hotspot/share/oops/oop.hpp#L58

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seems to contain a ptr and a header

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now everyone's gone and i dunno why :(

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:12 PM

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yeah a pointer to the class

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and the mark word

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:12 PM

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which is the header with hashcode info

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and gc info etc

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:13 PM

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yeah

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but thats not the reference right

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thats the header

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for the data

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:14 PM

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ye

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but what reference are we talking about cuz im messing up 💀

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:15 PM

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object reference

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on the stack

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:16 PM

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glossy venture how big one block is?

it can vary, however it should be noted that I refer to modern stuff therefore PAE is most likely going to be enabled/available on a given system. PAE makes use of virtual addressing that is then mapped to physical addresses. Thus allowing you to use less of the physical addresses at once

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:16 PM

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isnt that on every single OS ever
virtual memory

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:16 PM

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it is similar how you can have 300 threads, but your processor only have 2 logical threads

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:16 PM

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glossy venture isnt that on every single OS ever virtual memory

no

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you are thinking of paging

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:17 PM

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is that the thing that the cpu caches when it requires smth within that page?

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like block of memory

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:18 PM

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if i write

*((void*)0)

in c++ that doesnt try to access address 0 of my physical memory right

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the process has its own memory space

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:20 PM

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glossy venture if i write ```c++ *((void*)0) ``` in c++ that doesnt try to access address 0 of...

it depends really on the system. You could store in physical memory outside of the process

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:20 PM

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glossy venture if i write ```c++ *((void*)0) ``` in c++ that doesnt try to access address 0 of...

that will give you a straight up access violation LOL

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me trying to free nullpointers uwu

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:20 PM

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well yeah ofc it depends on the system its something the OS has to do but every modern OS does that

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:21 PM

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average programmer

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:21 PM

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you don't know about for loops?

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packages in java are just directories

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:22 PM

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Class.forName

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you were given the solution

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or well a wack solution

wet breach May 6, 2023, 4:22 PM

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lol

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a solution regardless though

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no one said it had to be the ideal one 😛

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:22 PM

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why would you even need that, too lazy to register classes yourself?

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just wondering

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its good to be lazy

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:23 PM

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tardy delta or well a wack solution

its the only way to do it

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for unloaded classes

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:23 PM

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ye <insert for loop and try with resources here>

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isnt there a reflections dependency thing

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org.reflections

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:25 PM

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yeah

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:26 PM

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i believe

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:26 PM

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idk if that works for unloaded classes though

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and if it does it has to do it a similar way

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:26 PM

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better hope so

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i would just implement it myself

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how many items?

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i smell hardcoded things

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i was thinking about loading items from json files but loading behaviour doesnt really work 💀

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 4:28 PM

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load from lua

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:29 PM

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ew

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straight up assembly ofc

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💀

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https://www.baeldung.com/reflections-library

Baeldung

A Guide to the Reflections Library | Baeldung

Learn how to configure the Reflections library and use it in your Java projects

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 4:36 PM

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Hello, how can I kill a player with a custom cause ?

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then show this custom cause in the chat

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:40 PM

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isnt there a SomeEvent#setDeathMessage

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 4:40 PM

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PlayerDeathEvent

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you just kill her and keep track that you were the one that killed her and keep track of the cause

vocal cloud May 6, 2023, 4:41 PM

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When you kill the player add some PDC you can read and remove in the death event?

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 4:41 PM

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^^

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:42 PM

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you just kill her

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wow

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you got something to say on that?

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 4:46 PM

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i dont remember typing her

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or he

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or anything relating to that

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:46 PM

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tell that in court

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 4:47 PM

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what date

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:48 PM

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bruh this somehow explains my current situation

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 4:49 PM

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i wanna do that

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sounds fun

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 4:49 PM

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who ever said relational databases were fun

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even json files feel more appropriate for this

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i dont really get the relational part

flint coyote May 6, 2023, 5:02 PM

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tardy delta i dont really get the relational part

No duplicate data. Change the address of a customer once and it's changed for all the data.

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it's easy to implement a changelog

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 5:02 PM

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anyone have intellij say it cant access a class but said class is in the same package

flint coyote May 6, 2023, 5:02 PM

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huh?

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screenshot and further explanation?

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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intellij is having strokes recently

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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ive got an abstract class and a normal class in my lib, same package but the class is unable to access it, still builds fine just visual error

flint coyote May 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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sounds like you wanna clear caches

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 5:03 PM

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i should do that shouldnt i

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love the fact it worked and i forgot about caches

pseudo hazel May 6, 2023, 5:24 PM

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tardy delta intellij is having strokes recently

when is it not

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 5:26 PM

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about three months ago

vocal cloud May 6, 2023, 5:44 PM

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Increase ram usage to 10GB

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:45 PM

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Bukkit recommends Netbeans anyway

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 5:46 PM

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thats because md uses it

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Use whatever you prefer, but support is most likely on InteliJ and Eclipse

vocal cloud May 6, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Most support is for intellij

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:50 PM

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netbeans is a shit IDE

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I gave it a try many times

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it cannot even auto-complete pom.xml files

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I understand that md uses it, because that's probably how he learnt java, but honestly speaking, it's a shitty IDE that has next-to-none maven support

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I hate IntelliJ every day, but it's still the best thing out there as of today

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 5:52 PM

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free tops my requirements 😉

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:53 PM

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community edition

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:53 PM

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eclipse is "okay" too but unfortunately the auto-complete is utter garbage

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:54 PM

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is there any advantage of eclipse over IJ?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:54 PM

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"oh, you wanna get the display name of an itemstack? why don't you cast it to player?" ~eclipse be like

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:54 PM

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exotic zinc is there any advantage of eclipse over IJ?

none that I could think of

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imho IntelliJ is shit but still better than anything else

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:55 PM

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why is it shit?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:56 PM

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it's not shit, but there's many issues with it. For example, please Ctrl+B into some random class, then try to "find references". it won't find any, even though there's refenceres in the same class

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with "random class", I mean "decompiled classes"

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:56 PM

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what

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Yeah, if it has the sources available it can find references

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:57 PM

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exotic zinc _what_

enter "CraftPlayer", then Ctrl+B into it

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you'll quickly see what I mean

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:57 PM

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Eclipse has huge issues when sources are not attached

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:57 PM

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quiet ice Yeah, if it has the sources available it can find references

please tell me more about how it cannot find references about a class I already got open

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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You need to attach sources for it to find the references

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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in the same class?!

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lemme explain

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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Even in same class

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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gimme a minute

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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ECD is total garbage

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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intellij can download sources automatically

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you dont need to attach anything by hand

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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CB does not have sources

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:58 PM

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you guys don't understand the issue I'm describing

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maybe I explained it badly

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I will attach a screenshot in a few minutes

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Well it's not that suprising that it is garbage given that ECD is based on literal malware

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:59 PM

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quiet ice CB does not have sources

skill issue then

tender shard May 6, 2023, 5:59 PM

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people saying "skill issue" are usually 14 year old jerks

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 5:59 PM

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how did you guess my age?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:00 PM

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tender shard you guys don't understand the issue I'm describing

I know what you mean. But it is a rather sporadic issue as I recall not having the issue recently and being a bit suprised by it

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:00 PM

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no usages found for "entityId"? I found at least 3 usages just by looking at it

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Ah that is IJ

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Thought you were talking about Eclipse

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:00 PM

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yeah, as said, IJ is shit

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:00 PM

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quiet ice Thought you were talking about Eclipse

oh no. eclipse is shit for other reasons

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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thats maybe because it cant find usages in decompiled class files?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Because Eclipse has a similar issue there

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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exotic zinc thats maybe because it cant find usages in decompiled class files?

yes? that is what I said

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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yeah

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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exotic zinc thats maybe because it cant find usages in decompiled class files?

Well it's more that fernflower does not support tokenization yet

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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idk i thought you were talking about bugs

daring bear May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Hi guys im intrested in creating a plugin anyone can help me setup the first file?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:01 PM

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exotic zinc idk i thought you were talking about bugs

it IS a bug

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:02 PM

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tender shard yes? that is what I said

just ctrl+f entityId

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:02 PM

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it says there's no "usages" while they are clearly there, in the same file

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:02 PM

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exotic zinc just ctrl+f entityId

I know how to workaround it

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another issue is jetbrains "support" which is basically non-existent

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(for the paid version, that is)

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:03 PM

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tender shard it IS a bug

oh no i meant that its maybe unable by design to find usages in decompiled class files

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:03 PM

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exotic zinc oh no i meant that its maybe unable by design to find usages in decompiled class...

so it's shitty by design?

daring bear May 6, 2023, 6:03 PM

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daring bear Hi guys im intrested in creating a plugin anyone can help me setup the first fil...

i dont need much help just to open the file cause like the guide i found in google doesnt help very much

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:03 PM

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exotic zinc oh no i meant that its maybe unable by design to find usages in decompiled class...

Well I mean it would be possible

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:03 PM

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daring bear Hi guys im intrested in creating a plugin anyone can help me setup the first fil...

yes, sure. are you using intelliJ?

daring bear May 6, 2023, 6:04 PM

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yea

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im in the menu

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:04 PM

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tender shard so it's shitty by design?

im sure that, if its by design, there is a reason why it doesn't work.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:04 PM

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daring bear Hi guys im intrested in creating a plugin anyone can help me setup the first fil...

https://blog.jeff-media.com/how-to-create-your-first-minecraft-plugin-using-the-spigot-api-and-maven/

JEFF Media Developer Blog

mfnalex

How to create your first Minecraft plugin using the Spigot API and ...

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Quiltflower (Fork of FF) supports Tokenization and is used in Enigma for example. However IJ uses stock FF which does not support that feature

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:04 PM

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exotic zinc im sure that, if its by design, there is a reason why it doesn't work.

idk customer support of jetbrains told me "it's a bug, we're working on it"

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that was like a year ago

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:05 PM

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ok then it's really shitty

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:05 PM

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I still agree that IJ is the best IDE out there

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:05 PM

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but it doesn't make intellij shitty just because of this

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:05 PM

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that is true

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I'm just angry at jetbrains

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:05 PM

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intellij has thousands of useful features. i forgive it for some minor things.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:06 PM

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true. but I pay for it, and I demand bugs to be fixed within like, at least a year

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:06 PM

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then go to jetbrains

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:06 PM

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as I said, I did

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"working on it"

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:06 PM

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no, i mean work at jetbrains

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:06 PM

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how slow are their devs working

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I cannot work there, I'm a lawyer, not a coder

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I never studied any IT stuff

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:07 PM

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The main problem with IJ I have is that it only supports one project per window. That is why I still stick to Eclipse and won't ever dare to think about switching to IJ for the foreseeable future

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:07 PM

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I also demand that a company is supposed to fix bugs themselves, even without me applying for a job there

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is that too much to ask?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:08 PM

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quiet ice The main problem with IJ I have is that it only supports one project per window....

it does support "any amount of projects" on macOS. but yeah on windows it doesn't

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idk about linux

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:09 PM

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And the main problem with Eclipse I have is that their debugger is a bit iffy if you don't have a setup that can be described as orthodox

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On linux I haven't been able to replicate Eclipse's workspace feature to any degree

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:10 PM

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tbh I switched to IJ 5 years ago because I hated this whole "workspace" idea lol

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I want to have one project per window

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:10 PM

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it has been reported 8 years ago

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:10 PM

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I truely love it if I am working with 2 - 5 projects at a time

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:11 PM

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https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-137736

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:11 PM

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imagine opening some project and eclipse opens 287 other projects

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like

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why?

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:11 PM

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yeah thats funny haha

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:11 PM

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I never understood it

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what's the purpose of that

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Ah, you probably are talking about m2e automatically resolving dependencies between projects

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Really nice feature I must say

grizzled oasis May 6, 2023, 6:12 PM

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      let id = event.target.id;
      if (id.contains(button)) return;

Doesn't work on html/javascript someone knows an alternative to this?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Sadly it's not a thing in gradle world unless you use subprojects

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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grizzled oasis ```javascript let id = event.target.id; if (id.contains(button)) ret...

why are you asking for js support in a Minecraft server api discord?

vocal cloud May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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grizzled oasis ```javascript let id = event.target.id; if (id.contains(button)) ret...

JS uses includes

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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quiet ice Ah, you probably are talking about m2e automatically resolving dependencies betw...

the bultin feature of maven?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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No. it eclipse's maven integration that does it

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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grizzled oasis ```javascript let id = event.target.id; if (id.contains(button)) ret...

?notworking

undone axleBOT May 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

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"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

grizzled oasis May 6, 2023, 6:14 PM

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exotic zinc why are you asking for js support in a Minecraft server api discord?

because i needed fast help

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:14 PM

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It basically sees "hey, project X is depending on Y. However project Z is actually Y, so we can make project X depend on project Z"

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:14 PM

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grizzled oasis because i needed fast help

then explain the issue please

vocal cloud May 6, 2023, 6:14 PM

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It's probably because the method they're looking for isn't contains but includes

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:14 PM

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quiet ice It basically sees "hey, project X is depending on Y. However project Z is actual...

hm idk anything about gradle. in maven + IJ, that'd work fine

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but I guess everyone here knows that "gradle = maven - features"

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Well the issue with maven is that it is far too locked down

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:15 PM

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how so?

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wdym

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:16 PM

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You can't add dependencies through plugins

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:16 PM

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ofc you can, but why would you

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that is easily possible?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:16 PM

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You cannot. At least not conventionally

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:16 PM

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every plugin can add dependencies

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but, as said, why would you?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Ah yeah they can, but the IDEs will fail to find them

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The IDEs only evaluate the POM but never execute them

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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that's eclipse's fault then

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Also applies to IJ back when I tested

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Hence "The IDEs"

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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maybe, idk. I just declare dependencies when I need them

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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wym by executing the pom?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:17 PM

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he means "eveluating"

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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No

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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then idk

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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I mean executing a noop task (such as :nothing in gradle)

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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why dont you just add the dependency

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Because it is computed at compile-time

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:18 PM

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wtf

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:19 PM

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but really,,,,, if you need such features switch to gradle....

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:19 PM

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gradle users be like "i want my build to reproducable" and then they they are like "oh I want this dependency to be computed at run-time" erm whjut

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Basically it deobfuscates a jar and sets the access of classes and their members based on an accesswidener file that is dependent on a per-project basis

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:20 PM

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it "deobfuscates" it? how? for what? to compile?

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why don't you simply have the deobfuscated version in your local maven repo

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:21 PM

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tender shard it "deobfuscates" it? how? for what? to compile?

As if it were to apply mojmap on craftbukkit for example

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:21 PM

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just use the mojang mapped artifact?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:21 PM

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However I cannot do that the way you are familiar with since I am using the accesswidener system

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So I'd need a jar for every project and that'd get messy real quick

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:22 PM

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how so? just run buildtools with the -remapped flag

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then you got the "unobfuscated" version in your maven repo

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:23 PM

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it's not minecraft-related. I'm just using minecraft-related comparisions since you have no clue what I am doing

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:23 PM

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you only mentioned minecraft, so that's the only thing I can talk about

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:23 PM

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lol

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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but you do you, ofc

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I'll go take a bath now

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Technically it is 95% minecraft-based technologies being applied on a non-minecraft setting

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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again, why are you use maven where it seems to be much more complicated than just using gradle and write your own task to do things?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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exotic zinc again, why are you use maven where it seems to be much more complicated than jus...

gradle is much more complicated imho

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but you can use it, if you want to, ofc

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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gradle has the issue of being a bit hard to debug

daring bear May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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@tender shard followed the tutorial and got to here:

package me.Sylent1305.skyblockplugin;

import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerJoinEvent;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public class SkyBlockPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        getLogger().info("Yo bro, my awesome plugin is indeed working!");
    }

    public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        if (!player.hasPlayedBefore()) {
            player.sendMessage("Welcome to the server, " + player.getName() + "!");
        }
    }
}

but its not working can you help me understand why?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:24 PM

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you are fine to use gradle if you want to

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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tender shard gradle is much more complicated imho

correct. But if you need to do complicated stuff you should be able to do it with complicated tools

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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daring bear <@632994436401594368> followed the tutorial and got to here: ```java package me...

you need to register the listener

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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exotic zinc correct. But if you need to do complicated stuff you should be able to do it wit...

exactly. most people don't need that, hence we use maven

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Though I have figured out that you can append --debug to the gradlew command to debug gradle from your IDE

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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imagine needing to study for 4 years just because you wanna do a simple thing

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nah

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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quiet ice Ah yeah they *can*, but the IDEs will fail to find them

a maven plugin can modify the pom

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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im trying to optimize my plugin (minigame)
which makes new void world for instance

I tried unloading all worlds and loading them only on demand, but this resulted in Loading terrain when player tries to access them, even tho I loaded that world before hand.

any ideas why it occurs?

my load world:
https://paste.md-5.net/bopotahuce.java

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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"how to shade a library in gradle and relocate it?"

OH I forgot, it's not possible in gradle 🥲

daring bear May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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package me.Sylent1305.skyblockplugin;

import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
import org.bukkit.event.Listener;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerJoinEvent;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public class SkyBlockPlugin extends JavaPlugin implements Listener {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        getLogger().info("Yo bro, my awesome plugin is indeed working!");
    }

    public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        if (!player.hasPlayedBefore()) {
            player.sendMessage("Welcome to the server, " + player.getName() + "!");
        }
    }
}

like that @remote swallow ?

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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tender shard exactly. most people don't need that, hence we use maven

would be really great if you use gradle for spigot with a task to start the server with the changed code and a plugin to test the code. Like paper does it.

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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dont you need an @EventHandler

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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tender shard "how to shade a library in gradle and relocate it?" OH I forgot, it's not possi...

what? you can shade and relocate just fine

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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exotic zinc would be really great if you use gradle for spigot with a task to start the serv...

you can easily do that?

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just use the maven-exec plugin?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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exotic zinc would be really great if you use gradle for spigot with a task to start the serv...

there is a plugin that does that, it just isn't free

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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wet breach a maven plugin can modify the pom

I guess that'd be a way to do it - cursed but ultimately possible I guess

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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tender shard just use the maven-exec plugin?

and how do i do that?

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:27 PM

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daring bear ```java package me.Sylent1305.skyblockplugin; import org.bukkit.entity.Player; ...

getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this) on onEnable + annotate the onJoin method with @EventHandler

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:27 PM

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okay first of all, you should NOT use your build tool to start a server.
BUt if you wanna do it, just add the maven-exec plugin to your pom, then tell it the args "java", "-jar", "server.jar", and that's it?

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I don't understand how that'd be an issue

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:28 PM

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run-task be like https://github.com/jpenilla/run-task

GitHub

GitHub - jpenilla/run-task: Gradle plugins adding tasks to run Mine...

Gradle plugins adding tasks to run Minecraft server and proxy software - GitHub - jpenilla/run-task: Gradle plugins adding tasks to run Minecraft server and proxy software

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:28 PM

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remote swallow run-task be like https://github.com/jpenilla/run-task

wtf is that

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:28 PM

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a gradle plugin

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:28 PM

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gradle task to run a server

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:28 PM

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lmao funny

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that's all you need in maven

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:29 PM

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we can also do it without a plugin

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most people just cannot be bothered

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:30 PM

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tender shard okay first of all, you should NOT use your build tool to start a server. BUt if ...

yeah but thats just overcomplicating things. It already required me a day to figure out how to change something on the 3 different repositories spigot has.

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:30 PM

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run paper also downloads the jar

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:30 PM

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exotic zinc yeah but thats just overcomplicating things. It already required me a day to fig...

maybe you are just not understanding how maven works

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:31 PM

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what has that to do with the incomplete explanation on what is responsible for what. we have bukkit and its implementation craftBukkit and we have spigot. When do i make changes to (craft)bukkit directly and when do i make changes on spigot?

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:32 PM

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craftbukkit has changes for the bukkit api

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:32 PM

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gradle is great for people who just wanna do things without understanding. they just copy/paste stuff and then "keep it like that" because "it works in gradle 7.3"

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it's also great for people who spent 2 years into understanding how exacrtly it works

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it's bad however for everyone inbetween

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:32 PM

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idk. Somehow you all have different opinions than everyone else i have talked about this topics.

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:33 PM

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probably because we understand the two different build systems

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:33 PM

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exotic zinc idk. Somehow you all have different opinions than everyone else i have talked ab...

that's normal, different people have different opinions

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:33 PM

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tender shard gradle is great for people who just wanna do things without understanding. they ...

i would not encourage any new plugin developers to use gradle. However if you need to do complicated things gradle is good.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:34 PM

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exotic zinc i would not encourage any new plugin developers to use gradle. However if you ne...

you can do the same with maven, though

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:34 PM

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wet breach probably because we understand the two different build systems

oh believe me, the people i talk to do know the difference between those 2 systems

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:34 PM

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90% of what you can do with gradle can be done with maven, same vice-versa suprisingly enough

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:34 PM

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gradle is nice if you want a more procedural build system, utilizing scripts and the sorts

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where as maven is all about making use of plugins

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:35 PM

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wet breach gradle is nice if you want a more procedural build system, utilizing scripts and...

yeah

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:35 PM

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as far as performance goes, both are the same unless you got a super massive project but even then it still depends in what it needs

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otherwise small projects you will never notice a difference between the two

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:35 PM

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yeah

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for small projects maven works fine

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i also rather use maven over gradle for plugins

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:37 PM

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maven works fine for large projects too. Just most people don't know you need to tell maven to use more resources before it actually will. Maven is conservative where as gradle is the opposite in this regard

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:37 PM

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just dont understand why spigot doesn't m or at least provide a way to test the changes without me having to definite 17 run configurations

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:37 PM

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gradle usually takes like 30 minutes longer

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it needs to downloads itself

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then it sets up its own repo in the project folder

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:37 PM

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you can just downloaded gradle from its website and tell IntelliJ to use that one?

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over the wrapper

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:37 PM

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it depends on the project

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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you can, but how's that going to work if this specific build file only works with "gradle 6.3.1"

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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Well at least you have the wrapper

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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then you shouldn't use them.

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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quiet ice Well at least you have the wrapper

and this

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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funny

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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It's worse when the dunce that uploaded the project doesn't include the wrapper

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:38 PM

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"I just cloned this repo that only works on gradle 6.3.1. But I use gradle 8.0. Guess I'll just not use it" lmao

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funny idea

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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yeah

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why rely on old shit

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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you do you

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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fork it and make it work for new versions

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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you do you

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maven builds are reproducable on basically every version

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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it has been 2 major versions in-between? time to update.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:39 PM

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3.6? 3.8? who cares

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it works

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:40 PM

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exotic zinc it has been 2 major versions in-between? time to update.

tell this people who still use gradle 6. erm... eg... sponge?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:40 PM

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tender shard 3.6? 3.8? who cares

To be fair there is no 3.7

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:40 PM

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this is like ah "uh oh why does this not work on my 1.8 Minecraft server" buddy you expect a 2014 released Minecraft server to have the up to date features?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:40 PM

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maven works so well, that a lot of the times, I forget to update maven plugins XD

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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exotic zinc this is like ah "uh oh why does this not work on my 1.8 Minecraft server" buddy ...

no, the opposite is true. it's like asking "why does my 1.19 server not support 1.8 plugins"

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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same difference

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Nor is there no 3.8.0 iirc - but 3.8.1 does exist

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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outdated shit, shouldn't be used

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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quiet ice Nor is there no 3.8.0 iirc - but 3.8.1 does exist

that is weird

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 6:41 PM

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tell that to my car

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:42 PM

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wet breach that is weird

They had a last minute bug and decided to bin the version number

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:42 PM

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exotic zinc outdated shit, shouldn't be used

outdated is a bit more of a personal thing at times. You could argue everything is outdated

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:42 PM

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eternal oxide tell that to my car

no, because you probably maintain it. A 1.8 plugin, if it would be maintained, will work for new versions.

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:42 PM

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quiet ice They had a last minute bug and decided to bin the version number

but that doesn't make sense to do that though

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:43 PM

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yeah whatever, you're a bit weird, I don't feel like talking to you anymore. Everyone knows that gradle breaks build files on every update, while maven does not. Everyone also knows that maven build files are detailled and just work fine on the next update, while gradle cannot even decide on which language to use (kotlin, groovy, and the other thing they used earlier). There's also no archetypes in gradle, btw. But granted, gradle fanboys like to just copy/paste other people's stuff, so that's fine, I guess

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:43 PM

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https://maven.apache.org/docs/3.8.1/release-notes.html#why-does-this-version-have-the-value-3-8-1

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:43 PM

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wet breach outdated is a bit more of a personal thing at times. You could argue everything ...

im sorry but we have over 10 major versions between 1.8 and 1.19 there is no "personal thing" 1.8 is outdated. Should not be used.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:44 PM

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let's all agree, 1.8 is dead and shit

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maven, gradle, whatever ... 1.8 is shit

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and dead

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and should be dead

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:44 PM

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tender shard yeah whatever, you're a bit weird, I don't feel like talking to you anymore. Eve...

we are all weird.

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:44 PM

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frostalf is making a good point in that it is really a personal matter. At long as someone uses it it isn't truely dead

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:45 PM

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exotic zinc we are all weird.

I'm cute

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:45 PM

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quiet ice frostalf is making a good point in that it is really a personal matter. At long ...

yes, he's right

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:45 PM

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quiet ice frostalf is making a good point in that it is really a personal matter. At long ...

yeah but they shouldn't expect support and rely on their own.

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 6:45 PM

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even hypixel is doing the switch

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 6:46 PM

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quiet ice frostalf is making a good point in that it is really a personal matter. At long ...

I seen servers supporting 1.8 to latest before

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:46 PM

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exotic zinc im sorry but we have over 10 major versions between 1.8 and 1.19 there is no "pe...

I understand the view point you are coming from with the whole outdated thing, however since there isn't like any formal or standard thing in what constitutes as being outdated its really of your opinion most times. Second, just because you consider something outdated doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't work or it is suddenly bad as well.

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 6:46 PM

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But know this is the dev channel we talking on

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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slim wigeon I seen servers supporting 1.8 to latest before

yeah it's called viabackwards

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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I agree 1.8 is old and people shouldn't use it, however my reasoning for people not using it is mostly because they are going to encounter issues they don't know how to fix on their own even though they were warned

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Or viaVersion for 1.8 but yes, its backwards

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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wet breach I understand the view point you are coming from with the whole outdated thing, h...

unpatched security leaks, known for multiple years, sounds bad to me

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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yeah anyway, whatever. gradle is an awesome piece of software. it just doesn't come close to maven, which actually is able to do reproducable builds

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:47 PM

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echo basalt yeah it's called viabackwards

thats what viarewind does, viaback only does to 1.9

wet breach May 6, 2023, 6:48 PM

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exotic zinc unpatched security leaks, known for multiple years, sounds bad to me

not everything outdated has security problems

zealous scroll May 6, 2023, 6:48 PM

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Is there a way I can check if a player's hitbox will collide with a nearby non-passable block (like a door or solid block, but not grass) upon teleporting them to a location? If they do collide, I want to be able to shift their hitbox out of the way of the collided block.

I've tried checking for collisions using Player#collidesAt and World#hasCollisionsIn but they only return a boolean and not the points the box collided with, so I can't shift the location back out of the obstacle's way

Example of what I mean:

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:48 PM

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wet breach not everything outdated has security problems

exactly. my old opel (vauxhall in USA) has no security issues

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 6:48 PM

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zealous scroll Is there a way I can check if a player's hitbox will collide with a nearby non-p...

do a raycast

zealous scroll May 6, 2023, 6:51 PM

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echo basalt do a raycast

raycast? is that not the same as raytrace

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 6:51 PM

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it is

zealous scroll May 6, 2023, 6:51 PM

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yeah i've tried raytracing but that does a single line and i need to account for the player's hitbox. and ray sizes are only taken into account for entity collision checks

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:53 PM

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tender shard exactly. my old opel (vauxhall in USA) has no security issues

whatever

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 6:53 PM

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wet breach not everything outdated has security problems

Running a outdated version of MineCraft is not a bad thing, When I was searching stuff I don't remember on Bukkit on how to use a API. All I seen is threads on 1.16 and in 2016. I knew that code was not going to work on the latest version of MineCraft or 1.19.3 in my case. I think I was trying to add a custom enchantment and I seen a function is deprecated. I did not know what was happening

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Its like trying to run newer programs on Windows 98 for a example, there is a cause of something not working

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So don't be scared to run any of these versions, just create a new profile and set a directory for that profile so it does not interfere with the .minecraft folder. I done talking about this

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:57 PM

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idk if its only on paper but their javadocs mostly provide a reason why it is deprecated and, if there is one, a replacement

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 6:58 PM

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I know

tender shard May 6, 2023, 6:58 PM

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the paper javadocs basically deprecate everything

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:58 PM

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no paper depreciates everything

opal juniper May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Adventure

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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and in most cases the deprecation has a valid reason

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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opal juniper Adventure

for example

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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slim wigeon Running a outdated version of MineCraft is not a bad thing, When I was searching...

as weird as it is, that 2016 code will most likely still work as long as it isnt nms

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Adventure is great,,,, once you get used to it

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 6:59 PM

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remote swallow as weird as it is, that 2016 code will most likely still work as long as it isnt...

Or any event constructors

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Paper‘s deprecated. The spigot works just fine

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:01 PM

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remote swallow as weird as it is, that 2016 code will most likely still work as long as it isnt...

I don't think it was nms but I don't remember what the code was

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 7:01 PM

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tender shard Paper‘s deprecated. The spigot works just fine

is that paper

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:01 PM

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remote swallow is that paper

it was

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:01 PM

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yes

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:02 PM

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i still wonder why they called themselves "paper", which obviously gets destroyed by a spigot. why did they not call themselves "hydrant", which is basically a "super-spigot"

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but yeah we all know, paper staff is a bit slow

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:02 PM

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but i can understand why you are so pissed about paper. They take your work and make it better.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:02 PM

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exotic zinc but i can understand why you are so pissed about paper. They take your work and ...

make it better? my work?

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I have never contributed anything relevant to spigot

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:02 PM

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you = plural in this case

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:02 PM

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ah ok

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better? Nah, I doubt that

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they have accomplished to turn a nice fork into sth that's incompatible with upstream

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but this is not the correct place to discuss this

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paper was nice a few years ago

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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at this time its probably just a matter of fact until paper drops spigot support and goes for the hardfork

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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...```irectory of D:\Home\Servers\MineCraft.Launcher - PAUSED\Versions\Paper

[.] [..] 1.10.2.jar 1.11.2.jar 1.12.2.jar 1.13.2.jar 1.14.4.jar 1.15.2.jar 1.16.1.jar
1.16.2.jar 1.16.3.jar 1.16.4.jar 1.16.5.jar 1.17.1.jar 1.17.jar 1.18.1.jar 1.18.jar 1.19.1.jar
1.19.2.jar 1.19.3.jar 1.19.4.jar 1.19.jar 1.8.8.jar 1.9.4.jar
22 File(s) 878,368,543 bytes
2 Dir(s) 665,099,268,096 bytes free```

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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exotic zinc at this time its probably just a matter of fact until paper drops spigot support...

exactly, and that's when they'll die

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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haha no

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:04 PM

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I hope they won't do it

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paper is, and was, supposed to be an "addition" to spigot

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:05 PM

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I hope they won;t. I've no interest in plugin deving for Paper. Not going to do it.

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:05 PM

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if they actually wanna "do their own thing", they gotta listen to what others said, and claim "spigot's api is copyrighted" and stpo using it

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yk

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can't claim "craftbukkit is copyrighted", then keep on using it

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:06 PM

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tender shard paper is, and was, supposed to be an "addition" to spigot

PaperMC improves Minecraft’s ecosystem with fast, secure software and an expanding plugin API, providing quick releases and helpful support as the most widely used, performant, and stable software available.

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:06 PM

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"helpful" Is that marketing speak for toxic?

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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that's just ChatGPT

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Similarly, if gnomes snuck into your house at night and replaced the internals of your TV remote with a different (but compatible) technology, you probably wouldn’t even notice! lol

ivory sleet May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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guys this type of debate doesn't suit in this channel

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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true

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let's rather talk about chickens

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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eternal oxide "helpful" Is that marketing speak for toxic?

i have experienced more toxicity in this discord in 3 days than in the paper discord for over a year

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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ivory sleet guys this type of debate doesn't suit in this channel

Redirect to #general

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/gregmercado-respiratory101-chicken-rooster-hen-gif-25332502

Tenor

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is this a beautiful chicken, or is it not?

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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he's looking at me

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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at you too?!

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I thought I was the only one

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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he definitely has eyes for me

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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This channel is #help-development

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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ask a question then 🙂

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I'll help your mom to develop, but she didnt ask any question

opal juniper May 6, 2023, 7:09 PM

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programmatic differentiation without using first principles?

exotic zinc May 6, 2023, 7:10 PM

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can i have en example of the state pattern please?

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:10 PM

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Back to my plugins I guess

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:10 PM

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I'd push my glasses up the bridge of my nose and compile an answer... but I know you were not serious 🙂

opal juniper May 6, 2023, 7:11 PM

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i saw it in an AI video recently but it made me cringe seeing them pluging in 0.00000000000000000001 as h

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😄

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 7:16 PM

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?paste

undone axleBOT May 6, 2023, 7:16 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

wet breach May 6, 2023, 7:18 PM

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slim wigeon PaperMC improves Minecraft’s ecosystem with fast, secure software and an expandi...

they don't provide security

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 7:18 PM

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i still keep calling it async spigot

worn tundra May 6, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Is there any reason why a spigot commandexecutor only spits this out in chat if there's an error in any code that affects the command, but nothing in the console? I'd expect a stacktrace, but it's almost as if the commandexecutor eats the error up in a try catch somewhere?

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 7:19 PM

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library provider source: https://paste.md-5.net/uqoxalarev.java
error: https://paste.md-5.net/xulosicuvi.cs
anyone know why eclipse aether is failing to resolve the artifacts?

wet breach May 6, 2023, 7:20 PM

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worn tundra Is there any reason why a spigot commandexecutor only spits this out in chat if ...

it depends on the problem. Not all problems raise an exception

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only exceptions cause there to be stacktraces

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so, that means there could be something like not registering the command

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being the problem

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 7:21 PM

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wet breach they don't provide security

TCPShield

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:21 PM

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glossy venture library provider source: https://paste.md-5.net/uqoxalarev.java error: https://...

are you not using maven?

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or gradle

wet breach May 6, 2023, 7:22 PM

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slim wigeon TCPShield

hardly consider that security

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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wet breach hardly consider that security

what did they say about "security" lol. I can't check, I blocked them

wet breach May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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that paper provides a secure software

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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haha erm ok

wet breach May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I just said they don't provide security

tender shard May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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yeah this is one of those 50/50 chances where I agree with you

worn tundra May 6, 2023, 7:23 PM

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wet breach it depends on the problem. Not all problems raise an exception

Gotcha, ty

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 7:35 PM

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tender shard are you not using maven?

im making a standalone application but i dont want to shadow in all dependencies

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so im trying to download and load them at runtime

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with eclipse aether

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:37 PM

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why not do your own? its quite basic

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https://github.com/ElgarL/GroupManager/tree/master/src/org/anjocaido/groupmanager/dependencies

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Hello, how can I get the players in a chunk ?

glossy venture May 6, 2023, 7:38 PM

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eternal oxide why not do your own? its quite basic

oh i didnt know it was that simple

young knoll May 6, 2023, 7:38 PM

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Does Chunk have a getPlayers?

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If not World#getPlayers and filter

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:39 PM

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young knoll Does Chunk have a getPlayers?

no, but a getEntities

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 7:39 PM

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stream and filter it

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:40 PM

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remote swallow stream and filter it

I've got this but I can't convert :java List<Player> player = (List<Player>) Arrays.stream(event.getChunk().getEntities()).filter(e -> e instanceof Player).toList();

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 7:40 PM

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eternal oxide <https://github.com/ElgarL/GroupManager/tree/master/src/org/anjocaido/groupmanag...

chances are this will works for other repos too

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:40 PM

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yes, if you change the address

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 7:40 PM

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cinder abyss I've got this but I can't convert :```java List<Player> player = (List<Player>) ...

convert what

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:40 PM

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remote swallow convert what

List<Entity> to List<Player>

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Inconvertible types; cannot cast 'java.util.List<org.bukkit.entity.Entity>' to 'java.util.List<org.bukkit.entity.Player>'

young knoll May 6, 2023, 7:41 PM

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You need to add a cast in your stream

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:41 PM

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young knoll You need to add a cast in your stream

how ?

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Arrays.stream(event.getChunk().getEntities()).filter(entity -> entity instanceof Player).map(entity -> (Player) entity).collect(Collectors.toList());

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:42 PM

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remote swallow `Arrays.stream(event.getChunk().getEntities()).filter(entity -> entity instanceo...

thanks !

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I replaced .collect(Collectors.toList()); with .toList to get a List 👍

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 7:43 PM

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teh Collectors.toList() is just backwards compatible

ivory sleet May 6, 2023, 7:44 PM

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remote swallow `Arrays.stream(event.getChunk().getEntities()).filter(entity -> entity instanceo...

Player.class::cast
and Player.class::isInstance

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:45 PM

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eternal oxide teh Collectors.toList() is just backwards compatible

okay

wise mesa May 6, 2023, 7:45 PM

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does ItemDisplay#isDead() always return true

cinder abyss May 6, 2023, 7:45 PM

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eternal oxide teh Collectors.toList() is just backwards compatible

'collect(toList())' can be replaced with 'toList()'

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My plugin is only compatible with 1.19+ so I think I can use this

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 8:00 PM

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ye

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:04 PM

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twilit roost im trying to optimize my plugin (minigame) which makes new void world for instan...

bump

chrome beacon May 6, 2023, 8:06 PM

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twilit roost bump

Do you mean the "loading terrain" loading screen

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:16 PM

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chrome beacon Do you mean the "loading terrain" loading screen

yes that screen

chrome beacon May 6, 2023, 8:20 PM

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twilit roost yes that screen

That's client side loading. The client needs to get the chunks from the server also Mojang hardcoded a 2 second minimum loading time (This has been fixed in a snapshot I believe)

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:21 PM

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just why would they hard code it :D
also that loading screen goes forever

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or atleast 1 minute

chrome beacon May 6, 2023, 8:21 PM

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https://modrinth.com/mod/forcecloseworldloadingscreen

Modrinth

kennytvs-epic-force-close-loading-screen-mod-for-fabric - Minecraft...

Instantly closes the loading terrain screen on world changing and drastically reduces the resource pack loading screen duration

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You can install that to help

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:22 PM

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looks good
but how can I actually make it load, since it just won't ever load those chunks

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or so I think

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I can't see whats in that world

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:22 PM

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The 2 second hardcode is gone in latest

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:22 PM

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great

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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yes Teams

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Seems they did it to hide the client falling through the ground

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lul

twilit roost May 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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my problem isn't waiting for it to load
idc 'bout that

i only have problem with it loading the world or chunks
since I can't seem to ever load into that world (no matter that 2 sec)

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 8:28 PM

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then packets

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:36 PM

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How do I access a plugin from one plugin?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Bukkit.getPlugin(name)

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Or the other plugin may have some sort of api

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:37 PM

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I trying to make a shop plugin and have my farm rod plugin add its custom items to the shop

quaint mantle May 6, 2023, 8:41 PM

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Anyone want me to make them a free custom plugin? DM me

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 8:41 PM

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?services

undone axleBOT May 6, 2023, 8:41 PM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:42 PM

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Do I need to do what vault did? private boolean setupEconomy() { if(getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugin("Vault") == null) { return false; } RegisteredServiceProvider<Economy> rsp = getServer().getServicesManager().getRegistration(Economy.class); if(rsp == null) { return false; } economy = rsp.getProvider(); return economy != null; }

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:42 PM

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You can

tardy delta May 6, 2023, 8:42 PM

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if you dont have a service provider, no

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:42 PM

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If you want to

quaint mantle May 6, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Anyone want me to make them a free custom plugin? DM me

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 8:43 PM

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that being said using services is rather rare

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:43 PM

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I just trying to access my plugins from one. Like a core plugin if you call it

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 8:44 PM

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The only plugin making active use of the service interface that I know of is vault. But that is about it

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 8:45 PM

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and permission plugins

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:46 PM

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I don't want to combine all my plugins to one huge plugin just to add a server shop with my Timber Axes, Hammers, Shovels, Portable Chests and Gps Compasses

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And Farm Rods

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6 different plugin files (.jar)

young knoll May 6, 2023, 8:46 PM

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Then like I said

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Just use getPlugin

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Or provide some kind of api to obtain an instance

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Or design your plugin(s) in a way that the plugin instance is not needed

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:49 PM

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quiet ice Or design your plugin(s) in a way that the plugin instance is not needed

Like turning all 6 plugins to one plugin?

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 8:49 PM

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no. I'm talking about the forbidden keyword

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Forbidden?

pseudo hazel May 6, 2023, 8:51 PM

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your plugins sound like they dont need to know about the core plugin at all

chrome beacon May 6, 2023, 8:51 PM

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slim wigeon Forbidden?

||static||

quaint mantle May 6, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Anyone want me to make them a free custom plugin? DM me

quiet ice May 6, 2023, 8:53 PM

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quaint mantle Anyone want me to make them a free custom plugin? DM me

I'll report you to Choco if you continue like that

pseudo hazel May 6, 2023, 8:54 PM

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?services

undone axleBOT May 6, 2023, 8:54 PM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 8:57 PM

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How can I tell if a player hit another player from behind? I'm trying to implement a feature where if you hit a player from behind you do bonus damage

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It's just a lot of math with vectors which idk how to do

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 8:58 PM

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    /**
     * Is the Player behind the Entity?
     *
     * @param player
     * @param ent
     */
    public boolean isBehind(Entity player, Entity ent) {
        Vector playerDir = player.getLocation().getDirection();
        Vector entityDir = ent.getLocation().getDirection();

        double relativeAngle = (Math.atan2(playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getZ() - playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getX(), playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getX() + playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getZ()) * 180) / Math.PI;

        return (relativeAngle <= 60 && relativeAngle >= -32);
    }```

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 8:58 PM

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grab the player's view angle

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and compare

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 8:58 PM

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eternal oxide ```java /** * Is the Player behind the Entity? * * @param pla...

thanks I'll try this

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 8:58 PM

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quaint mantle Anyone want me to make them a free custom plugin? DM me

You should not be doing that as some people think you trying to affect them like if I wanted you to make a plugin for me, I would ask for the source code so I can check before I run the plugin. Just stop, anyone can report you

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:00 PM

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That’s why we have a forum thread

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Which is moderated

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 9:00 PM

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echo basalt and compare

also the issue is idk how to compare

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too much maths

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 9:02 PM

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eternal oxide ```java /** * Is the Player behind the Entity? * * @param pla...

wait where do you define angleInDegrees

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:02 PM

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sorry that shoudl be relativeAngle

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:02 PM

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60 and -32

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Interesting values

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:03 PM

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wasn;t my code but I pinched it

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 9:03 PM

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alr testing it rn

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Works perfectly, tysm

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I should rlly study up on this tho

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:05 PM

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that one is a bit tough to be honest

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Now how do I detect what body part got hit :p

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Ask him where the bad man touched him

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 9:07 PM

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eternal oxide Ask him where the bad man touched him

Please don't, you remind me of my past. Can you keep this in #general . I give you a task, find how I can access my plugin from my other plugin

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That is what this channel is for

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:08 PM

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No, when you've been here longer than me I'll allow you to dictate how I behave.

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:08 PM

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We’ve already told you

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The simplest way is just Bukkit.getPlugin(name)

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:09 PM

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^ you have already been given your answer, more than once

storm scaffold May 6, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Is there a way to make custom advancements in Spigot?

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:11 PM

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Three ways, Create your own RegisteredServicePrivider, Use Bukkit.getPlugin(... or create an API in your plugin you can access via an instance.

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:11 PM

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storm scaffold Is there a way to make custom advancements in Spigot?

Several

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There is an experimental method to load a advancement from a json string

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Or you can just have your plugin deploy a datapack

river oracle May 6, 2023, 9:12 PM

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I'm trying to make a simplified connection string for my config, but I'm kinda stuck when its coming to the regex to match the parts
nitrite:user@password:/home/user/path/to/database
(\S*?):
Currently I've come up with this regex but it only matches if there is a : character after the portion I'd like to match the end portion as well

Current:

Group 1:
- Match 1: nitrite
- Match 2: username@password

What I want:

Group 1:
- Match 1: nitrite
- Match 2: username@password
- Match 3: /home/user/path/to/database

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:12 PM

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why regex and not String.split?

river oracle May 6, 2023, 9:13 PM

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different params in the future rn I'm hoping to start semi simple though I suppose String.split works for now

echo basalt May 6, 2023, 9:16 PM

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string.split does regex internally anyways

quaint mantle May 6, 2023, 9:26 PM

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slim wigeon You should not be doing that as some people think you trying to affect them like...

oh'

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Does anyone know if it’s possible to get the skin of a player and change the colors code wise? So I can for example make stone statues of players that way

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If not it doesn’t really matter, just a fun idea I was forming in my head

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:28 PM

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No skins come from Mojang and are signed

regal scaffold May 6, 2023, 9:33 PM

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Can I not make items take longer to eat using NBTAPI

nbtItem.setInteger("UseDuration", ticks);

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I did it and now it seems like I can never actually eat the item, it's eating forever

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 9:34 PM

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How can I alter the speed of a particle effect

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:35 PM

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eternal oxide No skins come from Mojang and are signed

I don’t want to change the players skin, I just want to take it and modify it (and then apply it to an npc)

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:35 PM

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modifying it IS changing

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Yes but I don’t want to change it on the player

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Get what I mean?

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:36 PM

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yes I know, the answer is still the same

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Okay sadge

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Skins are downloaded by the client from Mojang not the server

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:39 PM

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I’ve seen citizens load skins from a random image file

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Idk how

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:39 PM

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Yeah they do it

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Skins have 2 values

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A texture and signature or smth

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And there’s tools, for example mineskin.org , to convert an image of a skin into those values

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 9:40 PM

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they use the skins API (I forget the name)

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still comes from Mojang

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Mineskins

worldly mountain May 6, 2023, 9:41 PM

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yes that website

young knoll May 6, 2023, 9:42 PM

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Ah it uses that

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Magic

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 9:56 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/juqahaloli.css

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Anyone there that can help me with accessing this plugin?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:02 PM

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Sounds like you have 2 classes with the same package and name?

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Yes, same name. Is that my issue?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:17 PM

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Yes

hollow plume May 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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How can I set a custom head skin (i'm using the last api verion 1.19.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)... i don't don't understand how to create a PlayerTexture object (and if i want to use a base64 code for the skin for example). It's even possible in this version?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:21 PM

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Yes

hollow plume May 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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Ok, that a great starting point, how can i do this?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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https://blog.jeff-media.com/creating-custom-heads-in-spigot-1-18-1/

hollow plume May 6, 2023, 10:23 PM

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❤️ Tanks

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Still the same error, I renamed com.mrnategeek.serverShop.Main to com.mrnategeek.serverShop.ServerShop_Main

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:24 PM

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You need to be using the same import

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You can’t just magically cast it to a completely different class

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:25 PM

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        if(getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugin("MGN_ServerShop") == null) { return false; }
        this.shop = (ServerShop_Main) getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugin("MGN_ServerShop");
        return true;
        /*
        RegisteredServiceProvider<Economy> rsp = getServer().getServicesManager().getRegistration(Economy.class);
        if(rsp == null) { return false; }
        economy = rsp.getProvider(); return economy != null;
        */
    }```

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            getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage(ChatColor.YELLOW + "+ " + getName() + " Disabled (Server Shop not found)");
            getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this); return;
        }
        
        getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage("Creator: " + shop.creator);```

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I tried everything

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 10:38 PM

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How can I get every mob within view of a player

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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slim wigeon I tried everything

Are you still getting a class cast exception?

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:40 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/efezolosek.bash

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:41 PM

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Did you make the same class in both plugins

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:42 PM

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What you mean? com.mrnategeek.<pluginname>.<rootclass>, the pluginname and rootclass is the only thing different

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Oh you are trying to cast the main of one plugin to the main of the other

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Yeah you can’t do that

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You have to cast it to the main of the plugin it belongs to

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Can you show a example? I seeing examples of this being done by static and all that. I don't want to use that unless I have to

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Well

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If I had a plugin called MyPlugin with a main class of me MyPluginClass

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I would do

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MyPluginClass <name> = (MyPluginClass) Bukkit.getPluginManager().getPlugin(“MyPlugin”);

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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That is what I did. https://paste.md-5.net/osafolasic.http

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:52 PM

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Alright

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How are you depending on the other plugin

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 10:53 PM

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is there an entity death by entity event

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cause i cant seem to find one in the docs

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:53 PM

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young knoll How are you depending on the other plugin

https://paste.md-5.net/hajokijafe.http

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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that doesnt really show anything, do you have the other plugin as depend in plugin.yml

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Are you using maven

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Gradle

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Just depending on the jar?

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Maven

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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ornate patio is there an entity death by entity event

EntityDeathEvent, Entity#getKiller

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Are you accidentally shading the one plugin into the other

young knoll May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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brave sparrow EntityDeathEvent, Entity#getKiller

(Killer is always a player)

remote swallow May 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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what does the dependency look like

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 10:55 PM

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young knoll (Killer is always a player)

True

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 10:55 PM

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brave sparrow EntityDeathEvent, Entity#getKiller

Thanks

slim wigeon May 6, 2023, 10:56 PM

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young knoll Just depending on the jar?

Thanks, I was including it from the class folder. Did not think that was the issue but its working now. I can add my custom items to this shop

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:04 PM

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Any suggestions on how to get every mob within a player's views?

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 11:05 PM

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Depends on what you define as the players view

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:06 PM

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Any mob within 90 degrees of where a player is looking, up to 20 blocks away i guess

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:07 PM

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get all mobs within a 20 block range, then use the code I gave you (rewrite) to check if they are in the 90 degree arc of the getEyeLocation().getDirection()

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:09 PM

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i dont understand how to do the second part

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:10 PM

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just reverse teh last line so it checks the correct angle, and change teh first to use the eye location not the players facing

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I have a feeling those angles shoudl be 45 and -45 currently, so invert that for in front 135 and -135

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I believe they are 60 and -35 currently as the player doesn't face directly forwards.

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or somethign close

young knoll May 6, 2023, 11:16 PM

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The players body faces different from their head

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Idk why they didn’t use that vector

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:17 PM

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no clue

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:18 PM

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I'll see what I can do but im prob gonna come back for questions lol

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:19 PM

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eternal oxide just reverse teh last line so it checks the correct angle, and change teh first ...

and sry i dont understand what u mean by this

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:19 PM

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if you look at teh code you can see it currently uses the players Location

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instead use the players getEyeLocation

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then the last line use 135 and -135

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I've not tried it, doing it from memory as no code in front of me

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:21 PM

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eternal oxide then the last line use 135 and -135

why 135 and -135

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:22 PM

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MC uses 0 to 180 and 0 to -180 for direction

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:23 PM

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ah

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and 180-45=135

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also how do I access getEyeLocation

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it's not a method of Player

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:25 PM

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yes it is

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cast entity to Player

young knoll May 6, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Inb4 1.8

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:26 PM

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oh wait im just blind

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didnt realize the param was Entity and not Player

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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young knoll Inb4 1.8

1.8 has getEyeLocation lmao

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I've altered the method to look like this

/**
 * Is the Player behind the Entity?
 *
 * @param player
 * @param entity
 * @param angle
 */
public boolean isBehind(Player player, Entity entity, int angle) {
    Vector playerDir = player.getEyeLocation().getDirection();
    Vector entityDir = entity.getLocation().getDirection();

    double relativeAngle = (Math.atan2(playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getZ() - playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getX(),
            playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getX() + playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getZ()) * 180) / Math.PI;

    return (relativeAngle <= 180 - (angle / 2) && relativeAngle >= -135 + (angle / 2));
}

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oh wait

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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180?

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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i just realized why am i modifying this

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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why are you adding in (angle / 2) ?

young knoll May 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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brave sparrow 1.8 has getEyeLocation lmao

Idk man it’s 1.8, you could tell me it didn’t have items and I’d believe you

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:D

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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yeah nvm ima revert it

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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change method name too

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to facing

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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Idk why my brain decided to modify the old function

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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or is Facing

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so you should end up with 2 methods, isBehind and isFacing

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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yeah ik

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i just did a stupid

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    public boolean isFacing(Player player, Entity entity) {
        Vector playerDir = player.getEyeLocation().getDirection();
        Vector entityDir = entity.getLocation().getDirection();

        double relativeAngle = (Math.atan2(playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getZ() - playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getX(),
                playerDir.getX() * entityDir.getX() + playerDir.getZ() * entityDir.getZ()) * 180) / Math.PI;

        return (relativeAngle <= 135 && relativeAngle >= -135);
    }

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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looks fine

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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so i'll just loop through player.getNearbyEntities(20, 20, 20)

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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then loop over whatever mobs are within 20 blocks

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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and run that check

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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I'd not do 20 up and down

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well you could I guess

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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ur right actually

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i'll just make it like 5

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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so .forEach over it and add any that fit to a Set

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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i feel like i should also check to make sure theres no blocks in the way between the player and the entity

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i could use a raycast for that right

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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if you want line of site too, raytrace after checking isFacing

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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yeah ima do that then

young knoll May 6, 2023, 11:36 PM

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Just send out a million rays to find all entities in view

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duke

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:37 PM

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🙂

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use the raytrace with a predicate so you check for that specific mob

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:39 PM

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this is my current code without raytracing

player.getNearbyEntities(20, 5, 20).stream().forEach(nearbyEntity -> {
    if (!(nearbyEntity instanceof Mob)) {
        return;
    }

    Mob mob = (Mob) nearbyEntity;

    if (!mob.equals(event.getEntity()) && isFacing(player, nearbyEntity)) {
        mob.damage(event.getDamage(), player);
    }
});

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this is within an EntityDamagebyEntity event btw

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if u couldnt tell goal is to make the attack damage all mobs in view

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:40 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getNearbyEntities(org.bukkit.Location,double,double,double,java.util.function.Predicate)

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yours works too

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do the isFacing check first

zealous scroll May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Is there a way to get the non-passable blocks a player would collide with if he was at a certain location? I know there's Player#collidesAt but that checks they're current location and that also doesn't give me the blocks that he would collide with

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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its quicker

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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oh

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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no point in doign a heavy raytrace if it's not inFront

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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zealous scroll Is there a way to get the non-passable blocks a player would collide with if he ...

use the player's bounding box

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put that bounding box at the target location, and see what blocks are in the bounding box

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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he's checkign for line of sight

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or will be

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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eternal oxide he's checkign for line of sight

im talking to someone else

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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ok wait before i move on to raytracing

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my current version isnt working

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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take off the !

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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as in

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Why

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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why are you comparign it to the entity from the event?

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Because i don't want to damage the entity that got hit twice

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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you are going to have to explain what you are doign better

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM

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Let's say I punch a chicken

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It should also punch 20 other chickens that are in my view

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM

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ah ok

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM

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but I don't want to do double damage to the chicken that i punched

zealous scroll May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM

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brave sparrow put that bounding box at the target location, and see what blocks are in the bou...

thanks

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM

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so you want to check it IS the same type but not the same entity

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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doesn't need to be the same type

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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and is inFront

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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Just not the same entity

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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you just said 20 other chicken

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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i want to be able to punch a cow and hurt a player and a ghast too

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:46 PM

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ok

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code looks fine to me

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:47 PM

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ima do some debugging and figure out whats up

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ok what

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It just worked somehow idk

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Maybe i forgot to reload

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:48 PM

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I always full stop/start for every test

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:48 PM

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it just takes too long tho

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:48 PM

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not that long

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:49 PM

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like 20 seconds

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:49 PM

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unless potato

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:49 PM

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ive got a pretty beefy pc

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still takes like 10 seconds to start server

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:49 PM

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patience then grasshopper

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:49 PM

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ive rarely encountered an issue where a reload caused issues compared to a restart tho

wet breach May 6, 2023, 11:53 PM

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ornate patio ive rarely encountered an issue where a reload caused issues compared to a resta...

you haven't done enough coding then

brave sparrow May 6, 2023, 11:54 PM

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^

young knoll May 6, 2023, 11:55 PM

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Meh, you eventually get used to what does and doesn’t work through a reload

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:55 PM

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I also usually specifically design my plugins so that they would function on a reload

eternal oxide May 6, 2023, 11:56 PM

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replacing teh jar is unreliable at best

wet breach May 6, 2023, 11:56 PM

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ornate patio I also usually specifically design my plugins so that they would function on a r...

there is some things no matter how you code it, will never be reload safe

ornate patio May 6, 2023, 11:58 PM

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yes ik

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but i'd much rather make it as safe as possible and save time

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also how do i get the vector of the player towards an entity

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if that makes sense

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:01 AM

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targetlocation.toVector().subtract(playerlocation.toVector())

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:02 AM

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thx

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still no idea how vectors work

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:04 AM

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imagine a x/y graph

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x = 1 and y = 1 would draw a line from 0,0 straight up at 45 degrees

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so thats an arrow pointing in that direction

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:04 AM

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mhm

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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thats a 2d vector.

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at Z for depth

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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ohhh wait a min

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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thats a 3d vector

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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so is the arrow drawn from 0 0 0

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in a 3d world

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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yes

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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ok that makes some sense

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precalc knowledge kicking in again

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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and a unit vecotr teh sum of x,y and z totals 1

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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yeah im starting to remember

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:06 AM

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so from 0,0,0 its just an arrow pointing in whatever direction that values of x,y,z plotted on a graph point

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a vector has no location as it's just a direction

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what you are doing with the subtracting is reducing them to the smallest value (the difference between locations), so the target or player is at 0,0,0

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the remainder of x,y,z is teh vector pointing to the target

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:08 AM

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mhm

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:09 AM

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you shoudl .normalize() to ensure it is a unit vector

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:10 AM

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eternal oxide a vector has no location as it's just a direction

while true, it can have an origin

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:10 AM

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if you don;t normalize you can vector.length to get the targets distance from the player

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:10 AM

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wet breach while true, it can have an origin

an actual 3f can;t have an origin

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it has no world space

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:10 AM

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so with this information

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does this look fine to you

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Vector vectorTowardEntity = entity.getLocation().toVector().subtract(player.getLocation().toVector());
RayTraceResult rayTraceResult = player.getWorld().rayTraceBlocks(player.getLocation(), vectorTowardEntity, vectorTowardEntity.length());

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:11 AM

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yes

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:11 AM

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great

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:14 AM

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eternal oxide an actual 3f can;t have an origin

well it can, that is what position vectors are. they describe a point in space

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:14 AM

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not a 3f vector though

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:14 AM

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yes

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a position in of itself is just another vector, but to get it, you need at minimum 2 vectors

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a single vector isn't enough to know where in space it is at

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:15 AM

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so as I said not a 3f

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:15 AM

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yes a 3f can

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because its just another vector

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:16 AM

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no you are using a second 3f to represent teh origin

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:16 AM

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vector3fA - vector3fB = vector3fC C would be the position vector

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but its still a vector

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:16 AM

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one vector for origin, another for distance and direction

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no a vector is singular

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:17 AM

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what you mean to say, is that 3f vectors don't store anything about their positions in themselves

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:17 AM

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in every mention I referenced a single 3f vector

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A 3f vector has no origin.

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factual

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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frostalf, elgar, you are both betrayers

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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definitely

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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you should watch macgyver instead of being here

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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possibly

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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(the old version, not the shitty new one)

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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its doing something pretty strange now

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after I added the check it seems to be only hitting random mobs in view

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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I've watched them all when they were originally aired 😉

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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not all of them

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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ornate patio its doing something pretty strange now

this is generally called progress 😉

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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eternal oxide I've watched them all when they were originally aired 😉

dude how old are you?

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:18 AM

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lol

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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you must be like 45+

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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and some

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about another 10 on that

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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great! anyway, what's the issue with okay1204's code?

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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no clue

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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yeah me neither

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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they are about the same age as @knotty shell

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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nvm it is working correctly, I just can't hit mobs who are standing behind like grass

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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no code = no help

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:19 AM

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he's not shown us anything complete

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lol

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:20 AM

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oooh

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:20 AM

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Gotta code that swing through grass plugin

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:20 AM

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hmm

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i also want it to go through flowers

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and ferns

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all those junk

tender shard May 7, 2023, 12:20 AM

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young knoll Gotta code that swing through grass plugin

support folia when??

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:20 AM

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RayTrace with an ignore set of all the blocks you want to go through

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:21 AM

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could just ignore transparent blocks

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:21 AM

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but then it would also ignore like glass

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:21 AM

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Nope

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Glass isn’t that kind of transparent

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However it does ignore cobwebs

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Found that out the hard way -_-

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:21 AM

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i thought by transparent it meant like

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:21 AM

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we don't care about the webs

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:22 AM

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blocks that redstone can go through

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like slabs

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Someone on my server got killed through cobwebs and then there was a big accusation of hacking and blah blah

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:22 AM

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young knoll Found that out the hard way -_-

actually funny you found out about the webs this way

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:22 AM

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And then I had to fix it

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:23 AM

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that short story makes it even better

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XD

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Stupid cobwebs

echo basalt May 7, 2023, 12:23 AM

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just a tiny commit

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:23 AM

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how do i ignore transparent blocks

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nvm i found ignorePassableBlocks

wet breach May 7, 2023, 12:23 AM

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young knoll Stupid cobwebs

you probably spawned a small cult of conspiracy theorists that are now trying to prove how the staff are covering up for the dude hacking

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:24 AM

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isPassable is what I used

eternal oxide May 7, 2023, 12:24 AM

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try using Material#isSolid

young knoll May 7, 2023, 12:24 AM

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Covers any blocks that you can walk through

ornate patio May 7, 2023, 12:25 AM

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theres an argument for rayTraceBlocks

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ignorePassableBlocks

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anyways now this is all fully working