help-development

[eternal oxide]

your error says you are wrong

[quaint mantle]

but the files are right

[chrome beacon]

Send the jar here

[eternal oxide]

The jar on your server does NOT contain the plugin.yml you are showing us

[tawdry echo]

Use String instead of Object and String.equal()

[quaint mantle]

thanks

[quaint mantle]

the jar has plugin.yml

wdym

[quaint mantle]

ok I did not do that

so its maven

poggerz

[chrome beacon]

Nah it's not maven

It's a you problem

You did not use the newly generated jar

[quaint mantle]

I mean its changing it after it compiles

I'm compiling again

[chrome beacon]

it might not be able to do that while the server is running

[quaint mantle]

showing this for the record

it might take like 30 seconds

don't switch off

I hate how it worked

ok problem solved

somehow

thank u

and thanks for being patient

** dies **

[quaint mantle]

is not worked

[lost matrix]

Show your updated code

[regal scaffold]

Are the names above the players head

Considered player.setDisplayName#?

[analog thicket]

Yo, quick question. I have a plugin with generators. Basically, it saves their generators to a file, loads on join, and unloads on leave. The problem is if a player spam joins the server the file bugs, and ends up deleting all their stuff. How would i fix this?

[earnest lark]

Im making a tabCompleter how would i make it so that there are multiple different things for each of the different spaces

[eternal oxide]

check args.length()

[earnest lark]

yea

but

i dosent work

[eternal oxide]

your code doesn't work. The design does.

[earnest lark]

yea

thats usually how it goes

[eternal oxide]

The magic 8-ball says "you messed up"

[earnest lark]

The magic 8-ball says "your dumb"

not you

me

[eternal oxide]

🙂

?paste some code

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[earnest lark]

i got it

im just sooooo good at coding

[eternal oxide]

We all gods here

[earnest lark]

but my String[] keeps something from one before

[eternal oxide]

?

you shoudl be returning a List

and args[] will contain what you have typed

eg```java
List<String> result = new ArrayList<>();

    /*
     * Return a TabComplete for users.
     */
    switch (args.length) {

    case 0:
        break;

    case 1:
        result = tabCompleteUsers(args[0]);
        break;

    default:
        result = getPermissionNodes(args[args.length - 1]);
        break;
    }

    return result;```

[regal scaffold]

Is

Smile around

I'm having a bit of an issue with this GUI implementation

If I have a clickable item that's supposed to open a new gui

[lost matrix]

Kind of

[regal scaffold]

But I also want to be able to use escape to go back

There's a conflict

And it takes you back every time

    @Override
    public void onClose(InventoryCloseEvent event) {
        super.onClose(event);
        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, () -> {
            plugin.guiManager.openGUI(new MainMenuInventory(ultraChest), (Player) event.getPlayer());
        }, 1L);
    }

Inside InventoryButton

                    Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, () -> {
                        plugin.guiManager.openGUI(new MembersUpgradeInventory(ultraChest), player);
                    }, 1L);

I want the inventoryButton to refresh the current inventory

I guess I could call decorate again instead of opening the same GUI again, right?

[lost matrix]

Yeah both should work. But clear the inv before decorating again.

[regal scaffold]

Oh ok

Also... uhhh

Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Specified class does not exist ('me.tomisanhues2.ultrastorage.utils.UpgradeType')

        ConfigurationSerialization.registerClass(UpgradeType.class);

But it is registered

Ah... hehehe. Code is obviously executed top to bottom

[quaint mantle]

    public void OnEvent(PlayerDropItemEvent event){
        Player thePlayer;
        thePlayer = (Player) event.getPlayer();

        String salam = thePlayer.getDisplayName();

        String mrdxo = "mrdxo";

        if(salam == mrdxo){
            thePlayer.sendMessage("Salam Owner");
        }else{
            thePlayer.sendMessage("Salam"+salam);
        }
    }
}```

[worldly ingot]

== won't work for strings

[lost matrix]

You are still comparing Strings with ==
Dont do that

[river oracle]

you never know bro they could somehow end up at the exact same memory location

[quaint mantle]

any of you has a good youtuber that teaches spigot basics?

[river oracle]

not that I know of

if you have a good foundation of java though it shouldn't be too hard

I'd argue spigot is the easiest of the Minecraft api's out there

[quaint mantle]

I keep finding old tutorials

where do you learn?

[river oracle]

My friend taught me java and spigot

mostly used google though

combination of using forums + google got me to where I am

mostly

[quaint mantle]

Y2K_ one question

you see how in forge 1.17 stuff wont work in 1.18 because they keep changing class names and shit? is that the same with spigot?

[river oracle]

no

[quaint mantle]

or would 1.17 spigot scripts work in 1.18?

[river oracle]

spigot is braindead easy to maintain

[quaint mantle]

nice

[river oracle]

unless you use a shit ton of NMS

there might be breaking changes every great once and a while

but more often than not its 0 effort to get to the next version

[quaint mantle]

I'll pay you 2 dolars if you teach me all the basic stuff

not more than 2 'cuz I'm broke

• a thank u

[serene sigil]

does any one know why it tps me always to the surface?

like not actually underground

[quaint mantle]

I hate compiling everything in a .jar every time I wanna test the plugin. Is there a way to open minecraft dev mode or something like in forge?

[quaint mantle]

sorry so how to type equals in the if ? without == ?

[rough ibex]

if (string1.equals(string2)) {}

[quaint mantle]

sorry thanks

[serene sigil]

Kody Simpson

[serene sigil]

can some one help me?

[torn oyster]

well it doesn't work

        redissonClient.getTopic("status").addListener(String.class, (channel, msg) -> {
            System.out.println(channel);
            System.out.println(msg);

            String[] args = msg.split(" ");
            if (!args[0].startsWith("minigame-")) return;

            MinigameServer server = getServer(Integer.parseInt(args[0].replace("minigame-", "")));
            if (server == null) return;
            MinigameState state = MinigameState.valueOf(args[1]);

            System.out.println("Server " + args[0] + " sent state data: " + state + ".");

            server.setState(state);

            if (state == MinigameState.CLOSING) {
                MinigameServerManager.get().removeServer(server);
            }
        });```

it establishes the connection with redis fine

redissonClient.getTopic("status").publish(minigameId + " " + state.toString());```
this is on the other server's end

it established connection fine too

[torn oyster]

this does nothing though (not channel nor msg prints)

[serene sigil]

hello??

[tardy delta]

cuz chunk loading

[misty current]

can I code a pseudo-random number generator with a seed that would always return a fixed value when I input two values?

[eternal oxide]

a seeded random will always produce the same sequence of numbers.

[misty current]

is there an implementation in java or do I have to create one myself?

[ivory sleet]

There is

[eternal oxide]

just java random will do

[ivory sleet]

All of them except thread local random

Hence why thread local random is bad due to lack of reproducability

[fluid river]

fast

[misty current]

i know that if i input the same seed in two different Random objects i'll always get the same output, but i don't know in what order will the nextSomething methods be called, and also some could be called twice and yield the same result

[fluid river]

cast ArrayList<Entity> to ArrayList<Player>

how

[ivory sleet]

Not a good excuse

SplittableRandom is faster

[misty current]

i basically need a method that does something like boolean shouldSpawn(int x, int y, double chance)

[fluid river]

joking

[ivory sleet]

And has reproducability

[misty current]

now that i'm putting it this way, this is similar to what perlin noise does

but i don't need it to be gradual

i just need random values to be always the same with the same x and the same y

could I make an hash of the two values and evaluate a pseudo random number from that?

[eternal oxide]

explain better what you need to do

[misty current]

i have a chunk generation system and i want a method to reliably check if at said x and z something should spawn

[eternal oxide]

for generation, to ensure it always generates teh same you use a seeded random. You access that random in teh exact same order every time

[misty current]

i am aware of that, but i need to check if a certain structure would spawn/has spawned not necessarily when the chunk generates

[fluid river]

meh

[eternal oxide]

I'm not understanding yoru issue

chunk spawns exactly the same every time

if there should be a structure there, it will be there every time

[misty current]

i need to generate structures using such a formula so i can then tell if a structure spawned at that location

or i can tell before the structure itself is generated

[eternal oxide]

what EXACTLY are you trying to do? as it doesn;t sound like you actually want chunk generation

[fluid river]

how do i get the vector of where player is looking

for rayTraceEntities

[eternal oxide]

really nuker?

[misty current]

i've made a chunk generator that randomly generates structures using the provided random from the generateNoise method, but chunks close to that chunk also generate structures depending on what generated in the first chunk, so i need nearby chunks to be able to tell if the original chunk will spawn a structure

[fluid river]

idk i never used the thing

i preferred old good algorithm

[eternal oxide]

Player#getEyeLocation().getDirection()

[fluid river]

Location eye = player.getEyeLocation();
for (Entity entity : player.getNearbyEntities(64, 64, 64)) {
    Vector toEntity = entity.getEyeLocation().clone().toVector().subtract(eye.toVector());
    double dot = toEntity.normalize().dot(eye.getDirection());
    if (dot < 1) return entity;
}```

[fluid river]

i thought that's the velocity thing

OOOOOH

shit

there is a getVelocity

im dumb

[eternal oxide]

there is

has the same vector but different magnitude

I don;t believe you need to do that, you just set whether the generator can spawn structures

also if you go using the random from noise you will alter how the chunk spawns

unless you use it identically every time

[misty current]

i see

i'll try that way

thanks

[fluid river]

Entity result = player.getWorld().rayTraceEntities(player.getEyeLocation(), player.getLocation().getDirection(), 8).getHitEntity();```

this thing don't return player in creative mode in front of me

[eternal oxide]

exclude the player

it will collide with yourself

[fluid river]

how do i do that

is there a method or param or smth

[eternal oxide]

use teh raytrace that accepts a predicate

[fluid river]

oh

[eternal oxide]

(e) -> e != player

[fluid river]

yeah i know

would the != work tho

[eternal oxide]

yes it's an instance check

[fluid river]

shouldnt i compare UUID's or smth for safety

polymorphism and freaking Player object both go brrt

[eternal oxide]

no, there will only ever be one instance of the player during a raytrace

[fluid river]

when was this rayTrace added

i used the Vector#dot() since like i started coding for mc

[eternal oxide]

not sure https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#rayTraceEntities(org.bukkit.Location,org.bukkit.util.Vector,double,java.util.function.Predicate)

[fluid river]

shit

the RayTraceResult can also be null

not only the HitEntity

[eternal oxide]

yes for no hit

[fluid river]

then why is getHitEntity nullable heh

[rotund ravine]

1.14

[eternal oxide]

no clue 😛

oh it would be null if you were tracing blocks

single RayTraceResult for both entity and blocks

[fluid river]

oh shit rt result is for both

var rtr = player.getWorld().rayTraceEntities(player.getEyeLocation(), player.getEyeLocation().getDirection(), 8, e -> e != player);```

this still can't find player in creative mode right in front of me

spamming everywhere possible

it returns null everytime

[eternal oxide]

not surprising if the target player is in creative. Creative is a nightmare

[fluid river]

shiit

so i need to switch back to my old method

with vector stuff

[eternal oxide]

I see no reason it wouldn't find them, but when it comes to creative.

[fluid river]

nope

doesn't also work in survival

[eternal oxide]

are you sure you are looking the right direction and are within 8 blocks?

[fluid river]

i guess

[eternal oxide]

Thats an actual player and not an NPC?

[fluid river]

yes

sitting one meter to the right from me

[eternal oxide]

Sorry you dude needs a white stick

and a guide dog

[fluid river]

?

[eternal oxide]

did you mess up your predicate?

[fluid river]

its right here in the code

i just pasted

[eternal oxide]

player not Player

[fluid river]

it is

[eternal oxide]

yep looks ok

[fluid river]

if (event.getAction() != Action.LEFT_CLICK_AIR) return;
Player player = event.getPlayer();
var rtr = player.getWorld().rayTraceEntities(player.getEyeLocation(), player.getEyeLocation().getDirection(), 8, e -> e != player);
if (rtr == null) return;
if (!(rtr.getHitEntity() instanceof Player target)) return;
UUID damagerId = player.getUniqueId(), targetId = target.getUniqueId();```

probably also need to add filter for only searching players

instead of if in the end

i just made sysout before checking if rtr == null

and it always says null

[eternal oxide]

no clue, makes no sense

[fluid river]

var rtr = player.getWorld().rayTraceEntities(player.getEyeLocation(), player.getEyeLocation().getDirection(), 8, e -> e != player && e instanceof Player);
if (rtr == null) return;
Player target = (Player) rtr.getHitEntity();

still

fucked up

it's on playerinteractevent and the action is left click air

lol

it actually worked for some reason

var rtr = player.getWorld().rayTraceEntities(player.getLocation(), player.getLocation().getDirection(), 8, e -> e != player && e instanceof Player);```

but it only works if i click above players head now

not on the player body or head

and player is in creative

[eternal oxide]

due to using player location it's using teh vector of yoru body, not the direction you are facing

[fluid river]

cool lets go

ohh

i get it

[worldly ingot]

Pls make a variable of that. New Location instances are created each time

[fluid river]

player interact event is not called when you hit random player in the way

[worldly ingot]

PlayerInteractEntityEvent should be though

[fluid river]

it's for right click only

stated on javadocs

[worldly ingot]

Gotcha

[fluid river]

i need creative player left click

[worldly ingot]

If you want a right click, it's a damage event ;p

[fluid river]

damageevent is not working on creative

[worldly ingot]

Unsure if that's called for a "damaged" player in creative though

[eternal oxide]

listen to the https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerAnimationEvent.html for swing arm

[fluid river]

Craft event

[worldly ingot]

while loop?

[fluid river]

cringe bukkit

oh you mean

you just have chest

umm, you just listen to inv clicks

[flint coyote]

while(true) on main thread

[fluid river]

sleep()

[flint coyote]

why does the server keep crashing, I'm pausing the loop

while(true) {
sleep(1000);
System.out.println("test");
}

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[eternal oxide]

NO clue, code looks fine to me 😉

[flint coyote]

Dang it. Better create a jira ticket, surely a bug in spigot

[eternal oxide]

Probably md5 messign up again

[flint coyote]

Last time I saw md5 blaming Choco that he broke something 🤔

[eternal oxide]

probably chocos fault then

[worldly ingot]

D:

I mean it was my fault

But D:

[ivory sleet]

Dw Choco you our sweet chocolate no matter what :3

[flint coyote]

Server crashing due to while(true) is a bug. Just like I'm from america, right Choco?

Only because I used "mile" once in my life D:

[quaint mantle]

Is there any easyish way to make a custom crafting table that only crafts certain recipes? My friend had me make a plugin where similar to hypixel the ender dragon has special drops and he wants a special crafting station to craft stuff with the material it drops (which is really just gonna be something like iron but with a custom model id that retextures it and a display name)

I know I can make menus but idk if there's an easy way 🥲

[ivory sleet]

There is sorta

I mean u can use the crafting stuff nms uses

Or write ur own matrix logic

[river oracle]

Do better than mojang write some 200iq matrix logic

Blow everyone away

[ivory sleet]

Fr lol

[river oracle]

Write code and say I did better than Mojang ever could

[trim lake]

Can I someonehow get instace of class? I just want some simplest way 😄 Want to make pl for editing and disabling/enabling recipes. Ofc first I need to save them some how.

for(Iterator<Recipe> iterator = Bukkit.recipeIterator(); iterator.hasNext();) {
            Recipe rec = iterator.next();
            if (rec instanceof BlastingRecipe) {
                
            }
            else if (rec instanceof CampfireRecipe) {
                
            }
        }

[river oracle]

what java version

if your on java 20 or above you can use pattern matching

[trim lake]

JaveSE-17 rip 😄

[river oracle]

rip yeah I wish 17 had some nice 20+ features

unfortunately you will have to just write the else if statements

you could also use a switch statement if you use rec.getClass() you could match like that

[trim lake]

Just looking for some ezy way to save recipes. Saving in YAML file trowing errors 😄

org.yaml.snakeyaml.constructor.ConstructorException: could not determine a constructor for the tag tag:yaml.org,2002:org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R1.inventory.CraftShapedRecipe
 in 'reader', line 2, column 3:
    - !!org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R ... 
      ^
        at 
...```

[river oracle]

Looks like you should avoid the "!"

[young knoll]

Aww man there is no event fired when an empty dispenser activates

Sad

[river oracle]

Time to PR :O

or is there just no packet

[young knoll]

Why would there need to be a packet

Dispensers fire on the server, events are called on the server

[river oracle]

oh truee

[trim lake]

code was like this just simple xD

for(Iterator<Recipe> iterator = Bukkit.recipeIterator(); iterator.hasNext();) {
            Recipe rec = iterator.next();
            listRecp.add(rec);
        }
        
        recipes.getConfig().set("recipes", listRecp);
        recipes.saveConfig();

[young knoll]

Yeah sadly recipes are not ConfigurationSerializable

[river oracle]

I just noticed the get "server jar" website has a discord

[trim lake]

Hmm Im probably gona do yml like this (or idk in what else I can save it, new in java 😦 )

rectype:
  name:
     atributs:

Is there some better way? 🤔

[ivory sleet]

recipes:
  <recipe-name>:
    type: <type>
    attributes:
      #type specific stuff

[trim lake]

thanks a lot

[ivory sleet]

cheers

[young knoll]

Someone go make recipes ConfigurationSerializable :p

I’ll add it to my list I suppose

[mortal hare]

man clion is so good

compared to vs

i recently got my educational license

[worldly ingot]

Honestly probably not a horrible addition

[mortal hare]

and its literally intellij idea but on c++

[earnest lark]

In my TabCompleter i want to just have all the playters online be displayed how would i do that

[delicate lynx]

make it return the online players

[earnest lark]

Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers() returns a collection not a List

[young knoll]

It needs to be strings anyway

Use a loop to add their names to a list

[delicate lynx]

iterate through it and make your own list then

[young knoll]

Or get fancy with streams

[worldly ingot]

You can also just return null

[earnest lark]

oooh

yea

[worldly ingot]

Word of warning on that though, Paper has an option to disable that functionality (for some reason?)

[earnest lark]

well

[worldly ingot]

• it doesn't support vanished players

[earnest lark]

im not on paper

[worldly ingot]

Then you're good to go lol

[earnest lark]

yea

[young knoll]

Wait that isn’t a paper only feature

Dang

[warm mica]

You can also just return null I believe

Should be the standsrd behavior

I am not the first

Nvm

[warm mica]

Don't be surprised, they're really into with trashing their software with things nobody has really asked for

And they're decision making is more depandant on the position of the sun than whether it really makes sense and whether it would potentially damage existing servers, plugins or compatibility

[trim elbow]

If anyone needs help I can develop any plugin

message me any time

[warm mica]

Wrong place

[river oracle]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[worldly ingot]

Two to three days at most

He's consistent there

[young knoll]

Keep track of where the inventory was opened?

[warm mica]

I also don't think that you need to actually clone the items as spigot does that for you when it converts it to nms

.clone() is not needed in that line

[young knoll]

💀

I don’t understand how that plugin causes issues for people

Sounds like it should be a pretty simple plugin

[river oracle]

what plugin

if ur talking about crafting plugins I think i'd struggle with an effective way to chex matrixes without looping a god awful amount

that might actual require some decent though

Oh nvm

I miss reading lol

[river oracle]

Intellij moment 💀 just join vscode gang

[worldly ingot]

?

BlockPlaceEvent?

I'm not sure I understand

[young knoll]

If you are placing an item into an inventory slot it’s basically always the click event

Unless you are dragging it over multiple slots, then it’s the drag event

[worldly ingot]

Why'd you say block then? lol

putting a block in a space

[valid solstice]

Hello i’m not sure if this is dev related but when I try running a command or chatting, I get an error “Chat disabled in client mode”

Anyone know how I can fix this?

I’m pretty sure it’s plug-in related

Cause when I restart the server, I can chat again

Then when a function runs from my plugin (essentially turns my gamemode to spectator), I can’t chat again

And I can certainly chat in other servers

@EventHandler
public void onRespawn(PlayerRespawnEvent e){
        Player player = e.getPlayer();

        if(not_yet_respawned.contains(player)){
            not_yet_respawned.remove(player);
            player.setGameMode(GameMode.SPECTATOR);
            String msg = mainClass.getConfig().getString("messages.end_event_leave");
            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', msg));
    }
}

this is the event handler

the if condition is what triggers this effect I think. That's my hypothesis

Fixed it… nvm

[tepid acorn]

Is there any way to change the players name on bungeecord?

You know like how there is the .setUniqueId(); method is there a .setUsername(); ? or similar?

[misty ingot]

iirc #setDisplayName should work on bungee

[tepid acorn]

no but i dont want a display name lol, like changing the actual players name

[misty ingot]

cant do that

not possible

[tepid acorn]

rlly?

even if i modify bungeecord source?

[misty ingot]

you cant force change a someone's username in a game

you can only put a false username instead of it for show

yes, even if you modify source

[tepid acorn]

This apparently does what im trying to do
https://github.com/BlockyTheDev/bungee-spoofer

[misty ingot]

yeah, thats called setting a display name 💀

the plugin just sets your display name to the target's username

it doesnt actually change your base username

[tepid acorn]

Yeah of course not but like the forwarded username gets changed right?

[misty ingot]

"forwarded username"?

[tepid acorn]

Well yeah its gonna be offline since its a backend lol

[misty ingot]

https://offlinemo.de moment

[tepid acorn]

no like

[misty ingot]

this guys brain is all over the place

[tepid acorn]

Username -> Bungee (Changes to NotUsername) -> SMP

Well the username is changed after the client logins so auth?

[misty ingot]

my brother in god, for the sake of ours and your own sanity
just make use of #setDisplayName and set it to the target name
and do pretty much the same for the skin

offline stuff = spigot is not the place

[tepid acorn]

where is the place

[misty ingot]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[misty ingot]

nobody knows

[remote swallow]

most likely you would also have to spoof the name the client knows, so it still gets told the right thing

oh lmfao

[tepid acorn]

Well i just searched change name on bungee its the only thing i could find

[misty ingot]

only thing i could find != works

[tepid acorn]

true it doesnt work cuz the class it uses doesnt exist or smth

so i cant compile it

[misty ingot]

ok at this point theres 2 possibilities

[sullen canyon]

you mean you want something like hypixel's /nick system?

[misty ingot]

1. this guy is trolling hard
2. this guy is genuinely dumb but is at the wrong place because spigot is not the right place for offline stuff

[remote swallow]

i already know the exact issue why it cant compile and exactly how to fix it

[tepid acorn]

Kindaaaaaaa

[tepid acorn]

whats the issue

ik

[misty ingot]

bro its literally #setDisplayName just give up

[remote swallow]

im not going to say, i dont support piracy

[sullen canyon]

nah hypixel is using packets for this

[misty ingot]

thy must only useth resources why thine be bound by

[tepid acorn]

bruh its for testing

[remote swallow]

highly doubt that

[misty ingot]

packets is only for skin i believe

[remote swallow]

if anything hypixel works like libs disguise

[misty ingot]

^^^

[tepid acorn]

its kinda not a disguise

[sullen canyon]

😭 bro just look at proper copy of hypixel nick system like advancednick or smth

[remote swallow]

its a plugin, it works similar to it

[sullen canyon]

setdisplayname is not enough

for something like that

the advancednick plugin is opensource

[remote swallow]

do hypixel use advanced nick?

[misty ingot]

ok @tepid acorn , "kinda" isnt accurate enough for us to help you
tell us what it IS and then maybe we could help

[sullen canyon]

advancednick was coded as a copy for hypixel's nick system

[remote swallow]

okay? its not a copy

[sullen canyon]

if you think for a second you will understand setdisplayname is not enough bruuh

[remote swallow]

it might be similar but it isnt the exact hypixel code

[misty ingot]

cant be a copy if you dont have the og source

[remote swallow]

oh no how sad

[misty ingot]

its schrodinger's cat thing

[tepid acorn]

Okay

so

basically i have a bungeecord hub

so you can do /name (username)

[remote swallow]

they set display name , modify chat formatting, use npcs for the skin and an armor stand for the name

[tepid acorn]

and then /join (ip) to join a server with that username

[remote swallow]

your pretty much describing offline mode

[tepid acorn]

You can start yelling abt piracy now ig...

[sullen canyon]

this is literally hypixel's nicking system

gimme a sec

[tepid acorn]

Yes but i have a proxy on top that handles the name changes cuz yea

[sullen canyon]

i will send you the srcs

[tepid acorn]

GPT4 doesnt know anything about minecraft either so i cant use that 😢

[remote swallow]

this is most likely how any plugin like hypixel nick's work

[remote swallow]

it knows java and most likely knows bungee

[misty ingot]

from (ip) do you mean like, any server at all?

or just servers on your network

[tepid acorn]

No but i need the player to join a bungeecord proxy
Then set a command to change its name and then set a command to connect to a server and play under that name

[remote swallow]

so you need a plugin on that proxy

[tepid acorn]

Idk in theory you could put hypixel.net and it would work

[misty ingot]

ok yeah

[tepid acorn]

except for the fact that its online mode

[misty ingot]

this is not happening sir

[tepid acorn]

Yes

[misty ingot]

nope

not possible

[tepid acorn]

i already have the /join (ip)

but i need to change name

[remote swallow]

you would also need it on all backend servers

you cant

[misty ingot]

thats the impossible part

[tepid acorn]

y not

bruh

[remote swallow]

you cant auth with mojang

[tepid acorn]

so i can change UUID but not name

[misty ingot]

BECAUSE

[remote swallow]

you cant even connect to the servers

[tepid acorn]

but its gonna be offline who cares

[misty ingot]

you cant change UUID either bro 💀

[tepid acorn]

only connect to offline servers

[misty ingot]

BRO

MY

GUY

LISTEN UP

[remote swallow]

you still need something on that server to spoof your info, there is no way to do it without

[misty ingot]

yes that

[remote swallow]

if you want only want offline only, there is no point of this

just join with offline

[sullen canyon]

https://github.com/JustixDevelopment/EazyNick

[tepid acorn]

You can tho that already works

[tepid acorn]

yes there is a point

cuz the bungeecord modifies packets

[remote swallow]

an extra step in the process

[misty ingot]

whatever point there is, you arent going to get the answer here

[remote swallow]

if its oflfine the server doesnt care what your name or uuid is

[misty ingot]

spigot is not the place for piracy

sorry

[tepid acorn]

yes

[remote swallow]

so why do you need bungee

[torn oyster]

Just gonna bump this

[remote swallow]

may need to wait for 7smile

[sullen canyon]

tbh this is funny how the whole minecraft coding community that injected their api beforehand decompiled minecraft srcs caring about piracy

[tepid acorn]

Cuz it modifies packets

[torn oyster]

I mean it’s not just for him

[sullen canyon]

isn't it piracy 🤔

[torn oyster]

Surely more than one person knows how to use redisson

[remote swallow]

so you want to modify the inital join packet the server no longer cares about if its offline mode

[tepid acorn]

e.getConnection().setUniqueId(Plugin.getUUID());

[tepid acorn]

nono

The player joins the proxy

selects a name

and joins a server

then on the server i can modify the player's packets since its connected through a proxy

[remote swallow]

no?

thats not how bungee works

[tepid acorn]

Yeah it would have probably been easier to make my own reverse proxy but imma figure out the packet modification part later

[misty ingot]

@tepid acorn what part of "spigot is not the right place for piracy" do you not understand

and also what part of "that is not possible" do you not understand

so we can help you understand that part

[remote swallow]

you pretty much have to rewrite the entire bungee passing system to work on servers that arent even expecting "bungee" packets or info

[tepid acorn]

okay shit

[remote swallow]

it may be possible and this is a heavy maybe, if you had full access to the backend servers and could constantly modify that data if anything you have to modify the entire bungee passing and even at a minimum modify the server jar before spigot or anything gets to it

[tepid acorn]

bruh

so it would be easier to make a custom reverse proxy right?

so i have full access to the packets

[remote swallow]

idk why you are "bruhi"ing minecraft isnt built for this

[tepid acorn]

i mean like 2 ppl have done what im trying to do already

[slim wigeon]

Anyone has made a project in eclipse? I cannot get a working 1.19.3 spigot plugin, stuck using older versions like 1.17 or 1.16

[tepid acorn]

just that their stuff is private

[remote swallow]

you most likely need to find bugs in the way bungeecord connects to spigot if you even want an attempt at it

[remote swallow]

use maven or gradle and the reason you cant use later versions is because of

?bootstrap

[undone axle]

Bootstrap Jar
The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or the entire contents of the bundler directory from your server, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.

Please read the release notes for further information: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/9-years-of-spigotmc-spigot-bungeecord-1-18-1-18-1-release.534760/#post-4305163

[tepid acorn]

it wouldnt use like ipforwarding or anything

[remote swallow]

okay?

[slim wigeon]

Do you mind I talk to you via PM, I tried everything possible?

[remote swallow]

i dont use eclipse or an ide build system so i prob wont be much help

[slim wigeon]

I guess I have to downgrade my server and throw viaversion onto it

[remote swallow]

you can make a plugin for 1.17 and it work on 1.19

[slim wigeon]

I just seen that, thanks

[torn oyster]

@lost matrix issue

[wet breach]

What do you need a reverse proxy for?

[tepid acorn]

👀

dm

[slim wigeon]

@remote swallow Does 1.17 plugins work on 1.19.x? My plugin works but look at #help-server

[wet breach]

I dont do dms. There is nothing about it that would warrant such things

[remote swallow]

if it uses nms it most likely wont, if it just uses api it should work

[remote swallow]

he wants to spoof a name and uuid on a server he doesnt have backend access to

[wet breach]

Sounds like illegal things

[kind hatch]

^

[tepid acorn]

no ilegal

[slim wigeon]

Well, I don't know. it allows me to use /fly and /god like I said there, I just don't know

[tepid acorn]

its allowed on minecraft ToS

[kind hatch]

I don't know about that one chief.

[wet breach]

No it isnt

[slim wigeon]

You right @wet breach , who said anything about this?

[tepid acorn]

well its just like an alt manager on your usual utility client

[remote swallow]

except it isnt

[remote swallow]

check your using latest dev build from https://essentialsx.net

[wet breach]

Occasionally you might enocunter some bugs with multiple versions even if using the api due to implementation occasionally slightly changes. Only usually encounter this minor issue if you rely like on certain order of events firing for example so best to test your plugin on all versions you intend to support

[wet breach]

If you dont have backend access to something to use a custom plugin. Then spoofing your account to an online mode network will not work at all as the auth would never be correct

[tepid acorn]

Its offline mode network

[wet breach]

Then just send the packet with whatever name you want. We dont support offline mode here nor support doing shady things that have nothing to do with spigot

[tepid acorn]

but i cant send that packet with bungee right?

[slim wigeon]

Offline mode/Cracked accounts. These don't work on paid servers such as Hypixel but I recommend stop talking about it as hacking into servers is illegal. No, I not talking about Wurst. These are 2 different things. Now to my programming

[wet breach]

Bungee does not alter packets and offline mode there is no auth therefore no verifying player details

But again go somewhere else with your shady stuff. Mc tos does not allow you to use offline mode for the purposes you have described, you not having backend access network to said network also points to you wanting to do shady things that is basically illegal or borderline as such. In all, this is not the place for such support and goes against the spigot rules and what spigot supports.

[quaint mantle]

Hello, does anyone knows reason of why ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager() is null?

Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "com.comphenix.protocol.ProtocolManager.createPacket(com.comphenix.protocol.PacketType)" because "pm" is null

google says In maven, I have to add <scope>provided</scope> but im using gradle

[lost matrix]

Then use the appropriate scope for gradle. compileOnly

[quaint mantle]

Then i get this: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/comphenix/protocol/ProtocolLibrary

[lost matrix]

On runtime?

[lost matrix]

Well... did you install ProtocolLib?

[quaint mantle]

yes

on my plugins folder

[torn oyster]

7smile idk if u saw but i kinda need your help with redisson

[lost matrix]

Hm? Whats the problem

[torn oyster]

well it just doesn't work

lemme reply to my post

[torn oyster]

^^

[lost matrix]

So this a runtime exception, right?

[torn oyster]

the publish + subscribe

[true perch]

I don't need help at the moment, I just wanted to say that you're awesome @lost matrix ❤️

[lost matrix]

[true perch]

You're here helping people every time I check the discord haha

[slim wigeon]

@lost matrix You used maven before?

[lost matrix]

Did you add a debug message right before calling .publish()?

[quaint mantle]

ig yes error on console

[torn oyster]

no, but the method 100% runs

[lost matrix]

Yes, both maven and gradle

[torn oyster]

otherwise the entire thing would not work

[slim wigeon]

I tried to write a plugin using maven and it was not compling so I just downgraded to 1.17 plugin structure

[lost matrix]

Use /pl and check that Plib is properly installed.

[lost matrix]

Let me get a minimal setup working, one moment

[lost matrix]

Use the minecraft dev plugin from Intellij to generate you a clean spigot project.
How do you compile your plugin?

[slim wigeon]

Eclipe

[lost matrix]

Ok and how do you compile there?

[slim wigeon]

What you mean how?

[lost matrix]

What steps to you take in order to kick off the compiling and packaging of your plugin

Do you click buttons? Do you type something into console?

[slim wigeon]

I clicked buttons

I just tried to upload a gif

Showing what I do

[lost matrix]

sigh
Do you build artifacts? Thats what interests me.

In that case you can as well delete your pom.xml
because you dont use maven at all.

[remote swallow]

use imgur or verify to upload stuff

[quaint mantle]

yes

[lost matrix]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[slim wigeon]

I did but I first ran into this Java 18 error which I fixed but this one error showing the directory is not in the project folder, I just gave up and downgraded to 1.17 structure so I can just program without errors

[lost matrix]

All of this doesnt matter. You are not using maven so we cant help you with a supposed maven problem.

[lost matrix]

Here i wrote a minimal working example.
https://paste.md-5.net/umagejimos.java

[slim wigeon]

Before I switched to 1.17, @remote swallow said he does not program using mevan and I cannot find anyone to help me with it. If you the one that can, allow me to switch back. Otherwise, I running out of options

[torn oyster]

mine looks the same though

or well similar

do i have to create a new RedissonClient every time

or should I keep one instance defined in my class body

[lost matrix]

Stay with LTS versions. Java 17 is perfectly fine.
Java 18 has mostly garbage features. Nothing that would justify any hustle.
Just a heads up:

• If you use maven, then you never manually add jars or other artifacts to your project (breaks maven)
• You also dont compile by building artifacts. You compile by running a maven lifecycle (install or package)

[lost matrix]

What do you mean by that?
You should only need one client per server.

[torn oyster]

good

does my code look fine

[lost matrix]

Also, this is considered IO:

RTopic topic = client.getTopic(TOPIC_NAME);

As well as this:

topic.publish("Message [" + i + "]");

So not on the main thread pls

[lost matrix]

Let me double check

[torn oyster]

oh

well i'm not too sure how to not do it on the main thread

[remote swallow]

futures or scheduler, futures are prob better

[torn oyster]

okay

[lost matrix]

Your code looks fine. Make sure that both connect to the same redis instance.
Also: Add a debug message right before your subscribe and right before you send a message

[true perch]

My main plugin has 3 Manager variables.

public final ItemManager ITEM_MANAGER = new ItemManager(this);
public final GroupManager GROUP_MANAGER = new GroupManager(this);
public final PlayerManager PLAYER_MANAGER = new PlayerManager(this);```Is there any way my API could reference these variables? I can't think of a way for the life of me but it would make my life so much easier

[slim wigeon]

This is what I was seeing at first```Build path specifies execution environment J2SE-1.5. There are no JREs installed in the workspace that are strictly compatible with this environment. MG-Staging Build path JRE System Library Problem

[lost matrix]

First of all: All fields have to be private.
Only exception are constants (public static and final)

Your naming should be

• itemManager
• groupManager
• playerManager

For referencing:
Really depends on how your API and plugin are structured.
The easiest way would be to create a static getter in your
JavaPlugin class. Then API methods should look like this:

  public static PlayerData getPlayerData(UUID playerId) {
    YourPlugin plugin = YourPlugin.getInstance();
    PlayerManager playerManager = plugin.getPlayerManager();
    return playerManager.getPlayerData(playerId);
  }

[lost matrix]

You need a JDK to build ofc. If you want to build for java 18 then you need a java 18 JDK

<properties>
    <maven.compiler.source>18</maven.compiler.source>
    <maven.compiler.target>18</maven.compiler.target>
</properties>

Add this to your pom as well

[quaint mantle]

problem solved thanks 7smile

[lost matrix]

What was it?

[quaint mantle]

protocollib problem

[lost matrix]

Not version 5.0.0 i suppose

[torn oyster]

figured it out

i think

[lost matrix]

What was it?

[torn oyster]

oh well it turns out

i called the setState() method before i initialized redis

so i made it call again after the server was ready

its a bit hacky since its setting itself to PRE_GAME twice but it shouldn't affect anything

[slim wigeon]

@lost matrix I missed a config tag, that might be why I was seeing errors. Lets see

I got it to work, plugin shows on my server

[torn oyster]

also is there a way to write to a database?

redis is a database right

how would i use that? i'd like to keep track of all live minigames

[lost matrix]

An in memory db

[torn oyster]

yeh that's fine

how do i read/write to it

[lost matrix]

Get a RMap and use it like a map

[torn oyster]

does it use SQL

[lost matrix]

No

[torn oyster]

what would be the best way to track the following:
minigame-id | port | state | player-count

all in one

[lost matrix]

RMap<Integer, MinigameData>

Or whatever your minigames id is

You can think about RMap like a HashMap.
But its on redis, so all connected servers can use it

[slim wigeon]

You can just use the Map built on Java. I forgot what function it is but it does work if you don't care about SQL

[torn oyster]

how do i write?

[lost matrix]

map.put(id, minigame);

[quaint mantle]

Hello, I hope you're doing well. in 1.19.4, how do you spawn a fake armorstand with custom name?

It prints "SEND FAKE ENTITY2.9",
This is my code and when I run this, server says "An internal error occurd..." Without Any coonsole errors.

ProtocolManager pm = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager();
        PacketContainer packet = pm.createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.SPAWN_ENTITY);
        packet.getModifier().writeDefaults();
        packet.getEntityTypeModifier().write(0, EntityType.ARMOR_STAND);
        packet.getUUIDs().write(0, UUID.randomUUID());
        packet.getIntegers().write(1, 1);
        packet.getDoubles().write(0, location.getX());
        packet.getDoubles().write(1, location.getY());
        packet.getDoubles().write(2, location.getZ());

        WrappedDataWatcher.Serializer byteSerializer = WrappedDataWatcher.Registry.get(Byte.class);
        WrappedDataWatcher.Serializer chatSerializer = WrappedDataWatcher.Registry.getChatComponentSerializer(true);
        WrappedDataWatcher.Serializer boolSerializer = WrappedDataWatcher.Registry.get(Boolean.class);
        List<WrappedDataValue> dataValues = new ArrayList<>();

        Byte flags = 0x20;
        dataValues.add(new WrappedDataValue(0, byteSerializer, flags));
        Optional<?> optChat = Optional.of(WrappedChatComponent.fromChatMessage(name.replace("&", "§"))[0].getHandle());
        dataValues.add(new WrappedDataValue(2, chatSerializer, optChat));

        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY2.5");
        Boolean nameVisible = true;

        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY2.6");
        dataValues.add(new WrappedDataValue(3, boolSerializer, nameVisible));

        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY2.7");
        Byte armorStandTypeFlags = 0x10;
        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY2.8");
        dataValues.add(new WrappedDataValue(15, byteSerializer, armorStandTypeFlags));

        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY2.9");
        packet.getDataValueCollectionModifier().write(0, dataValues);

        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("SEND FAKE ENTITY3");
        pm.sendServerPacket(player, packet);

So i stacktraced, stacktrace says that packet.getDataValueCollectionModifier().write(0, dataValues); is the problem
[20:18:56 WARN]: FieldAccessException: Field index 0 is out of bounds for length 0

[torn oyster]

oh i see

redissonClient.getMap("name").doSomething

right?

[lost matrix]

Get the map once

[remote swallow]

anyone know if its possible to somehow use rcon and gradle to execute reload confirm on said rcon

[lost matrix]

Spawning an entity and applying metadata has to be done in two separate packets.
You can write metadata into a spawn packet.

[eternal night]

What's stopping you from just adding a rcon library to your build source?

And writing the small kotlin yourself

[remote swallow]

bc ill prob only be using it for testing stuff

[rotund ravine]

You can.

[eternal night]

https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/tutorial_using_tasks.html#sec:build_script_external_dependencies

Like

Just smack a rcon lib in there

Have a buildAndReload task somewhere that depends on build/jar/shadowJar that copies the jar over into the plugins folder and then shoots a rcon command

[remote swallow]

kekw i cant find any working gradle rcon libs

[eternal night]

What do you mean gradle libs

Any java lib will do

[remote swallow]

ive tried them too

[eternal night]

I mean, either all tried open source java rcon libs are broken or you messed up somewhere XD

[quaint mantle]

hm what do you mean?

[remote swallow]

https://github.com/Pequla/RconCore

[eternal night]

What are you doing

Did you read the gradle docs I linked

You don't add that dependency as a dependency for your plugin, it's a dependency of your build script

[remote swallow]

still the same

[eternal night]

You reloaded the gradle project properly I presume ?

[remote swallow]

yep

[eternal night]

Version 1+ is a funny one ,

[remote swallow]

works as the latest 1.--- version

same error if i specify a version

[eternal night]

Missing the dot tho

But yes

[remote swallow]

doesnt work if i add the dot

[true perch]

They're now private, properly named, and I added getters for all of the managers. Thank you!

Are you sure this would be best to do though? java public static PlayerData getPlayerData(UUID playerId) { YourPlugin plugin = YourPlugin.getInstance(); PlayerManager playerManager = plugin.getPlayerManager(); return playerManager.getPlayerData(playerId); }

I've been doing my absolute best to avoid static methods

since the data inside the PlayerManager is a HashMap (and I was told exposing that is not a good idea)

[true perch]

Also in the API how would I be able to run plugin.getPlayerManager() when the API doesn't know what Realms extends JavaPlugin is, only knows what JavaPlugin is?

[eternal night]

yea dunno what you are doing

buildscript {
    repositories {
        maven("https://jitpack.io")
    }

    dependencies {
        classpath("com.github.Pequla:RconCore:1.+")
    }
}

tasks.register("example") {
    Rcon("localhost", 42, "password".toByteArray())
}

works for me

obviously a import net.kronos.rkon.core.Rcon at the top

but beyond that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote swallow]

without the dot

huh

it does work with the dot

it never did that like 2 weeks ago

[eternal night]

[remote swallow]

fun

it appears rcon didnt want to start

[lost matrix]

You API needs to know your plugin ofc.
And you can design this non-static if you want to

[true perch]

Ahhh, I wasn't sure if I should add my main plugin as a dependency to the API or not

[lost matrix]

I mean that you need to send 2 packets.
One for spawning
One for setting the metadata

[lost matrix]

Otherwise your API would have no idea what to do. lul

[true perch]

Yeah and that's why I was so confused XD

For some reason I thought it'd be bad if they depended on each other

🤷‍♂️

That makes this so much easier! gaaaaah thank you

[lost matrix]

Well, your plugin should not depend on your API

[true perch]

What exactly do you mean by that?

My main use for the API at the moment is to have a way for multiple servers to be able to understand the same thing. Like, what a custom item is. I have all custom items loaded into memory on each server so they can be quickly accessed right away.

[lost matrix]

Your main should not use your API

[true perch]

Are you suggesting the way I'm using it at the moment is bad design? If so I would love to hear your thoughts on how I can improve.

[lost matrix]

You plugin should not use an API to basically communicate with itself.
It should work as a standalone application. The API should be written
after you are done with your plugin. If you follow the basic design principles
then your plugin should easily be accessible through the means of an API.

[warm mica]

"The API should be written after you are done with your plugin" I find that statement tough, I believe that you should try to design your code with the API in mind as you are otherwise left with a bunch of Impl classes that implement the interfaces you created for the API

But a separation between API and business code is definetly important

[warm mica]

It's similar to tests, you should have them in mind when you are writing your code. If you don't write modular enough you'll have a tough time creating them

[true perch]

At the moment my plugin is depending heavily on the API. I will do my best to take both of your advice and revert that

[lost matrix]

This is like calling someone over a phone that stands right next to you.
Why not just talk with him instead? If others want to speak with him they
need a phone and his number. But you dont.

[remote swallow]

i cant tell if your text is being forcefully wrapped across lines or you're doing

[lost matrix]

XD this is actually just me adding newlines at the end. Its because i have DC on
my second monitor and i dont want to turn my head all the way to the right when
writing something.

[remote swallow]

ahhh

[echo basalt]

bruh moment

just... create some distance between you and the monitors

no need to have your eyes glued

[remote swallow]

thats literally me

my bed is right behind my desk so i even put my feet up

[wet breach]

Just use a vr headset

I have a virtual computer workspace in vr. Its so awesome

[wet breach]

No need for physical monitors

[wet breach]

Lmao

[eternal oxide]

I've considered VR for dev work but I'm reluctant to buy

[wet breach]

I recommend it

[eternal oxide]

crappy lenses make it hard to pick a system

[lost matrix]

beat saber

Shapeless should be pretty easy, right?

But shaped recipes are really complicated to get right here.

[true perch]

How does VR contribute to your work as a developer? I've never considered that before.

[lost matrix]

InventoryClickEvent?

Yeah

[wet breach]

I can have as many monitors as i want or use no monitors and just have floating windows i can move freely. Since i dont need physical stuff i am free to have a laying down chair. I use a physical keyboard and mouse but with vr this isnt even required either. The headset i have also allows me to see my physical environment at will so i dont have to really remove my headset

[true perch]

How would you program in VR without a physical mouse or keyboard?

[wet breach]

You learn to type and grab stuff in the air

My headset can see and track my hands and arm movements

[lost matrix]

The hard part will be to actually detect which recipe is inside the matrix.
Checking when to update should be easy. Every time the matrix changes you need to
recalculate the output.

[wet breach]

Think of the second matrix movie where they have people in that control station

Its like that

But highly customizable to your liking lol

I can watch movies in vr too. Headset i have lets me create virtual rooms

So i can a movie going in vr and be doing stuff on my virtual computer. Virtual computer is linked to real computer but lets you do some neat stuff

Yes but no

I would use a 2d array. Map the slot id to the array indexes

This makes it easier to check the slots without needing to do a loop

[wet breach]

I recommend trying it out. I love vr

I will probably eventually get into vr programming

Then i could just wear my headset out in public and it provide me all kinds of info in regards to the physical environment. Like telling me how fast vehicles are travelling for example

[true perch]

What's your WPM with a physical keyboard compared to a VR keyboard? Is it a huge difference?

[lost matrix]

You dont program in VR when programming for VR

[wet breach]

When first learning it your wpm will suffer

[wet breach]

You can. But depends what you are doing

Thats like saying you cant use a java ide to program in java lol

[remote swallow]

anyone know how i can relocate + exclude stuff from a minimize task in gradle, ive tried excluding in the minimize with / and . but it still removes the classes

[lost matrix]

I have never seen anyone program in VR.
Its more like saying: You wouldnt program a game by starting another game and sitting on a virtual computer.
Makes little sense

[wet breach]

My wpm for physical is about 130wpm. Virtual its faster sometimes. Because you dont have to press keys just only make the motion

[wet breach]

Virtual computer still needs linked to a real one. But you definitely can program in vr for vr. Testing would be the only nuisance in doing so sometimes but it depends what is you are making. If you are making an app to runin vr then i can just uninstall and install the app from within the vr itself since its menus are accessible from within the headset

Applications for vr are separate from the vr os system. Its no different the reloading an app on your computer. You dont need to reboot your entire computer to do it unless it involved the os itself

[icy beacon]

saw you talking about wpm and decided to test myself

last time i checked it was about 80-90

[icy beacon]

in my native language (Russian) my wpm is 94 💀

lower than in English

[icy beacon]

what site is that btw

[remote swallow]

https://monkeytype.com

[eternal oxide]

if we are talkign no typos I can do about 10

[icy beacon]

ty

[remote swallow]

surprising

[icy beacon]

u

[wet breach]

Not bad

[remote swallow]

wait until you find out i only do 7 second tests

[icy beacon]

yeah i thought it was lower lmao

[icy beacon]

fair enough

let me try that

[remote swallow]

you get a lot higher speed on 7 second tests if you get lucky

[icy beacon]

7sec

[wet breach]

Most employers in the us that require typing typically have a minimum of 90 lol

[icy beacon]

consistency is really hard to keep

i'll try 2 minutes

[remote swallow]

not too bad

[eternal oxide]

All my time is spent correcting mistakes

[wet breach]

A proper test measures in 5 minute intervals

[eternal oxide]

Then again I havn't typed in MANY years

[icy beacon]

fair

[wet breach]

Its not super important to have 100% accuracy.

[icy beacon]

fr? shouldn't 2 be enough

is this good lol

[remote swallow]

im so slow

[icy beacon]

let's try 5 minutes

maybe you'll unlock your second breath

[wet breach]

Its not the worst. You should strive to have 85% or 90 minimum

[icy beacon]

hmm

yeah i'll try 5 minutes now

my fingers will not thank me

[wet breach]

At 90% you should easily have over 100wpm

Its faster to correct typos later and therefore you shouldnt worry about correcting a lot of them while typing.

You need to make your own matrix

[lost matrix]

This is a matrix

[wet breach]

Hence why i said use a 2d array

Int[][]

[lost matrix]

How is this helpful?

[wet breach]

I suppose you could keep it 1d array

[lost matrix]

What does that even mean?

I got to drive to uni now

[wet breach]

But 2d is just super quick in terms of looping if its needed.

[lost matrix]

alf will do

[remote swallow]

god im not good at typing for long periods of time

[icy beacon]

this shit was hard

[eternal oxide]

the matrix is the 3x3 grid

[true perch]

I ask one question about WPM and the chat really just took it and went with it lol

[icy beacon]

lmao

[remote swallow]

i find it funny that you beat me

[icy beacon]

tbh i didn't except this high score

[remote swallow]

do you type with your hands left on f, right on j

or just randomly

[wet breach]

This is really good

[eternal oxide]

just override it

to return the 9 you want

[icy beacon]

would i have chances to be hired for a writing-esque job with this

[wet breach]

Definitely

[icy beacon]

oh damn

[remote swallow]

when i was like 10 my school tried to teach us home row, left hand on f, right on j but i was way quicker just typing with two fingers but i just slowly after that started picking up where i could put other fingers to make it quciker to type

[icy beacon]

ngl every hand-related part of my body hurts now though

[remote swallow]

now i just use all fingers and mis spell a lot

[remote swallow]

yeah

my hands dont hurt, my elbows do

[icy beacon]

oh same yeah

[remote swallow]

posture be like

[icy beacon]

i don't use my pinkies for some reason

probably should rethink my ways of typing

[remote swallow]

my left pinky is shift and control my right just kinda sits there

or presses enter

[wet breach]

You took a test 5 minutes long and got 100wpm. That means you could write 4 paragraphs or a small essay in 5 minutes as that is 500 words in that 5 minutes

[remote swallow]

ha

[eternal oxide]

If your elbows hut you need to adjust your sitting position. You will suffer carpal tunnel syndrome VERY quickly. It will start with numbness in your pinkie finger

[icy beacon]

it'd probably be 6 minutes seeing as my speed would decrease over time but that's a good point yeah

[icy beacon]

good to know, thanks

i'll keep my posture in mind

[remote swallow]

how do i adjust my posture

[wet breach]

Also the reason for 5 minutes being the minimum for proper tests is it prevents copy and pasting

And makes such things more obvious

[remote swallow]

im just too quick

[icy beacon]

daamn

[true perch]

holy crap

insane.

F12 op

[icy beacon]

you'd type a 500 word essay in 0 minutes

[remote swallow]

nah

[icy beacon]

impressive

[remote swallow]

do the words test then just pre-emtively get read

[icy beacon]

frostalf

what's your wpm

you probably said it already but i forgot

rusting slowly 😛

[wet breach]

In regards to this recommend a rest pad for your wrists for when typing prolong periods. This helps your hands not get tired, and provides some comfort without losing posture

[remote swallow]

but its my elbow that hurts

its only my left elbow that hurts, because it rests off my desk

[icy beacon]

as a person who used to jitterclick a shit ton, your elbow and fingers are somehow related

[round finch]

why should developers be fast a typing
all we do is copy and paste

[icy beacon]

and copilot does all the typing

we are the minds

[wet breach]

Indeed because you have 2 nerves that run from your shoulder to your hands that go through your elbow on either side

[icy beacon]

that's easy though

Shift+F6, new name, enter

[remote swallow]

i changed that so i can shift right click lol

[icy beacon]

also good

[remote swallow]

zbll

[icy beacon]

hm?

[remote swallow]

do a punctionation + numbers minute test

[wet breach]

Yes

[icy beacon]

hm

alright

[remote swallow]

or just punctuation

[icy beacon]

time?

[remote swallow]

60

[icy beacon]

kk

[wet breach]

Numbers is easy as long as you have a numpad

It can be 1d, but it should be a 2d array

[remote swallow]

why would i have a numpad

[icy beacon]

that's quite eh

[remote swallow]

i already know thats better than me

[wet breach]

Most keyboards have numbads unless its a small keyboard

[icy beacon]

numpad is too far away though

[remote swallow]

i have a tkl keyboard

i dont have the space for a numpad

[icy beacon]

let me try with a numpad actually

nah

it isn't convenient for me

[remote swallow]

numbers are hard

[icy beacon]

epic

try a long quote

[remote swallow]

im a fuckin speedy bitch

[icy beacon]

"custom"

speedy

xD

do this

[remote swallow]

it was The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

[icy beacon]

I just had the quote from all star

[remote swallow]

thicc

[wet breach]

Numpad you use your right hand and keep it placed in the center. Index on 4 middle on 5 and ring finger on 6. In this fashion you dont have to move your fingers very far to hit any of the numbers and your thumb is used for the 0 and bottom keys

[icy beacon]

Well, the years start coming and they don't stop coming Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense not to live for fun Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb So much to do, so much to see So what's wrong with taking the back streets?

this shit

but i restarted it

😭

[icy beacon]

yeah but i still have to write words

moving the hand from here to there is a hassle and a bit

[wet breach]

Thats when you learn a different style of typing. But numpad is only good if you have a lot of numbers to type

[remote swallow]

fuck me

[wet breach]

Not just a few lol

[remote swallow]

punctuation is hard

[icy beacon]

quotes are goated

you can both practice wpm

and get an existential crisis

[remote swallow]

im great at all lower case no punctuation

[icy beacon]

try english 450k

[remote swallow]

as soon as i need to add capitals, full stops or quotes in im dead

[icy beacon]

😄

[wet breach]

Yeah sometimes punctuation tests can be hard. Most of my accuracy misses on tests is mainly me forgoing punctuation because its faster for me to leave those out and then go back after i am done to add them in

[remote swallow]

i'll add commas randomly if i think what im saying is too long but thats it

and i wont be typing at max speed

[wet breach]

I usually have my word processor setup to auto capitalize after using a space after the period

[icy beacon]

should we move to #general ?

[remote swallow]

this is general

[icy beacon]

fair

[remote swallow]

im gonna give my elbow a break

it hurts a bit

[wet breach]

Lol

[remote swallow]

for some reason its only my left elbow

[wet breach]

Also the type of keyboard you have affects your wpm too

I use a mechanical keyboard

[remote swallow]

if you dont you arent a real dev

[icy beacon]

i have a membrane keyboard

[remote swallow]

get out

[icy beacon]

because i can't afford time to buy a mechanical 😭

[brisk estuary]

or you just don't have money to buy one

which is my case lol

[icy beacon]

i've wanted one for like 1.5 years to get it

[remote swallow]

also when you do get one, whatever you do

[icy beacon]

but yeah first of all shit's expensive

[remote swallow]

dont get blue switchesd

[icy beacon]

haha

[remote swallow]

blue switches are so loud

[wet breach]

Costs like $50 for one

[icy beacon]

yeah if i buy one i want to get a good one

[remote swallow]

you only get blue if you live alone

[icy beacon]

expensive for me, haha

[wet breach]

Lol

[icy beacon]

i'm waiting for my commission pay still

and i'll put off 100% of it

[wet breach]

You live in the US?

[icy beacon]

nope

Russia

[remote swallow]

how much is it

the comission

[icy beacon]

170$ approx

[wet breach]

Nvm then cant buy you one

[remote swallow]

dayum

[icy beacon]

which is a steal ngl

[brisk estuary]

I wish I lived in US, everything is cheaper

[icy beacon]

i've increased my prices approximately 3 times after this commission lmao

[remote swallow]

zbll are you in helpchat

theres so many just easy comissions there

[icy beacon]

i can, but it's harder to find one

[icy beacon]

what's that?