help-development

[tender shard]

we've all been there

dont worry

[eternal oxide]

Yay, you're one of us now 🙂

[earnest lark]

idk why i blanked so hard on it

[tender shard]

relatable lol

what was the issue though

did you forgot to set back the itemmeta?

[earnest lark]

like i was using setItemMeta

[eternal oxide]

The lifesaver is search on the javadocs

[tender shard]

yeah tbh the javadocs are to blame sometimes - getItemMeta() doesnt tell you that you need to set it back, iirc

[eternal oxide]

true, but you can often fine everything you need just by using a partial match

[tender shard]

sure

still, annoying

[young knoll]

Sounds like a free PR to me :p

[tender shard]

go for it, then I dont have to do it

[eternal oxide]

I'd only typo it 😛

[tender shard]

btw can we all appreciate that I added the comments to the particle class?

I want hugs now

[young knoll]

I added comments to some of the potion effects that just had shitposts

:p

[tawny remnant]

thank you all for the help

[tender shard]

oh yeah there's also the ItemFlags class that bugs me so much

[tawny remnant]

i might never be able to repay you in any way

[tender shard]

did you get it working?

[tender shard]

That's me!

[young knoll]

His name Jeff

[tawny remnant]

yes

[worldly ingot]

You mean to tell me you didn't find "Squee'ek uh'k kk'kkkk squeek eee'eek." to be descriptive enough? wtf?

[tender shard]

CHoco ban that dude, he used my name

[young knoll]

[chrome beacon]

Wait so I was right the entire time

[earnest lark]

im using the InventoryPickupItemEvent how do i get the person who picked up the item

[tender shard]

get the InventoryView, then get the first viewer

getView(),getViewers(0)

sth like that

[young knoll]

InventoryPickupItem event

Pretty sure that’s for hoppers

[worldly ingot]

Yep

[chrome beacon]

^^

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerPickupItemEvent.html

[earnest lark]

oh

[tender shard]

the "normal" event for picking up items is EntityPickupItemEvet

the player evet is dep

[young knoll]

Tbf it probably still works but yeah

[tender shard]

yes, I used a setting for it in my Drop2Inv plugin

"im-using-outdated-plugins"

[young knoll]

I wonder if MD will ever implement a policy to remove deprecated stuff after X minecraft versions

[tender shard]

I hope he won't, we're not paper

[tawny remnant]

i have a question how can i upgrade my nms project to 1.19.4

[worldly ingot]

[tender shard]

spigot is there to be version indepedent

[earnest lark]

ok

what event should i use then

[tender shard]

?xy

[undone axle]

http://xyproblem.info/

[tender shard]

what are you trying to do @earnest lark

[earnest lark]

im trying to see if someone is taking a specified item out of a gui i made

[tender shard]

InventoryClickEvent & InventoryDragEvent

then check whether the clicked item is yours

[earnest lark]

yea

[young knoll]

Yeah that’s fair

Granted if a plugin is that old maybe it deserves to die :p

[tender shard]

funny thing

PlayerPickupArrowEvent is not dep, but it extends PlayerPickupItemEvent

which is deprecated

[worldly ingot]

It's deprecated by inheritance. There is an EntityPickupArrowEvent

[tender shard]

but the javadocs don't tell that it's deprecated

to me, it looks like it's fine to use https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerPickupArrowEvent.html

[young knoll]

Another free PR :p

[tender shard]

someone should PR the Dep annotatio to that too. I would so, but setting up the repo for PR is annoying

let's just hope that @worldly ingot does it

[worldly ingot]

[tender shard]

ugh ok I'll do it

[young knoll]

I feel bad having so many PRs open

[tender shard]

sometimes I understand paper lol

BUT ONLY SOMETIMES

[young knoll]

Oh?

In reference to what

[tender shard]

well there's two things I dislike about paper.
1st thing is, they deprecated every string method i spigot. e.g. setDisplyName(String) - they want it to be a component. It kinda makes sense that they want this. But granted that it's a fork of spigot, which they claimed to be compatible with, they cannot remove this method. and if they don't actually wanna remove it, they shouldn't deprecate it imho. a normal @see annotation in the javadocs would be enough
2. sometimes, the add things, which are then later added by spigot, too. For example the AdvancementDisplay class, which they used an enum for (iirc, might be mistaken), then later spigot added it. or the Translatable interface, which I added

[icy beacon]

you're at a high risk of getting a whereami from a random member of the server

[tender shard]

and then they complain about spigot adding it too

like as if they had any right to decide "oooh we added it 2 weeks ago, now upstream adds it too? Ugh" lol

[young knoll]

One of my PRs is something I think paper already has

[tender shard]

imho paper adds many great things, but they should just fucking contribute upstream. ffs

[tender shard]

that's totally fine, if you didnt steal their code

[young knoll]

Nope

But they’ll have to deal with the conflict

[icy beacon]

not our problem hehe

[young knoll]

True

[tender shard]

what did you add @young knoll ?

[young knoll]

But still

[young knoll]

TNTPrimeEvent

[tender shard]

and they already have that?

[young knoll]

I believe so

[tender shard]

IIRC paper uses their own package for events

[young knoll]

Yeah but they’ll have to make sure both events fire

[tender shard]

they will probably make one event extend the other

[young knoll]

True

Forgot about that

[tender shard]

probably their event extends the spigot one

[young knoll]

Someone made a spigot PR for the event way back in 2016

But it kinda died so… rip

[tender shard]

if a pull request dies with no obvious reason, I#d just ping md_5 every day

he also pings me like every third day sooooo I guess he wouldn't worry about a ping lol

[young knoll]

Lol

Someone requested changes in 2021 but the author is probably long gone by now

[tender shard]

oh this reminds me, fuck

I had to reply

[young knoll]

So I just remade it, it was for legacy versions anyway

[wise mesa]

is there a way for a plugin to immediately stop server start up

like if something's wrong

like during load say

prevent all plugins after from loading

[eternal oxide]

system.exit but it's dangerous

[young knoll]

Can it not just Bukkit.shutdown

Or does that not work during startup

[wise mesa]

it does but I think it lets other plugins load first

[young knoll]

Hmm

[buoyant viper]

reminds me that i had a PR from a while ago that i never submitted, but id probably get shunned by paper shills bc they already had it since like 1.16 api apparently

[wise mesa]

and I don't want to use system.exit because its dangerous

[young knoll]

Not sure you can do much else

[wise mesa]

alright

[buoyant viper]

why should your plugin stop the server?

[wise mesa]

unfortunate

[tender shard]

I'm good at being honest, at least

[young knoll]

What’s the use case that if your plugin has an error all plugins must die?

[wise mesa]

its meant for updating plugins

so I kind of want to stop immediately if a plugin needs an update

its for auto downloading development builds from jenkins

[tender shard]

erm sure, many. but it makes no sense

[eternal oxide]

don;t stop the server, download the update into teh update folder. It will be applied at teh next server start

[tender shard]

you could e.g. get the Unsafe object, then putAddress(0,0)

[wise mesa]

yes I know

but my plugin does that and then stops the server

[tender shard]

or you just use Bukkit.shutdown() or however it's called

[wise mesa]

so that the new dev build will be applied immediately

[tender shard]

anyway, admins will fucking hate you if you do that

[buoyant viper]

^

[wise mesa]

its for development servers only

[tender shard]

you should NEVER shutdown the server just because your plugin sucks

[wise mesa]

its not for production servers

[buoyant viper]

until it accidentally gets pushed to prod

[wise mesa]

its for developers to auto download the latest dev version of their plugin from jenkins

[tender shard]

and a message isn't enough?

[wise mesa]

its not for my plugins

[young knoll]

Make the plugin shutdown the OS

[wise mesa]

its for their plugins

i mean i use it on my plugins

[buoyant viper]

True

[tender shard]

"Download latest version, otherwise, maybe, in a future, this plugin will kill your server"

[wise mesa]

no

[tender shard]

I definitely wouldnt update

[wise mesa]

you misunderstand alex

[tender shard]

maybe I did haha

[wise mesa]

lol

here's the point

[tender shard]

anyway, you can use Bukkit.shutdown() or sth like that

[wise mesa]

yea that's what im using

just annoying i have to wait for plugins to initialize that are about to immediately shut down

[tender shard]

Bukkit.getServer().shutdown()

that inits a "nice" shutdown - so it saves the worlds properly, etc

if you just wanna kill the JVM asap, you can do Unsafe#putAddress(int, int)

[orchid gazelle]

System.exit(0);

Lmao

[tender shard]

my putAddress method is even worse

[wise mesa]

you are a developer, you have a jenkins server that builds on git commit

[icy beacon]

unplug the system

[wise mesa]

my plugin will download the latest jenkins build whenever there's a new one of whatever plugin

so its meant for your own plugin that you're developing

for easier testing

[tender shard]

yeah just print a message "Please, dear sys admin, press Ctrl+C" lol

[wise mesa]

not even

you are the sys admin

its your dev server

its really for my own purposes

because I test my plugins with other people

and I'm literally too lazy to upload it each time

[tender shard]

yeah I got it lol, just use this: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Server.html#shutdown()

[wise mesa]

aight

[buoyant viper]

if i am the dev i have the plugin jar on hand and i will sftp it over

[sterile token]

Whats your point ? i have seen you sending messages the whole day - hahaha

[icy beacon]

takes more than 2 seconds

[tender shard]

do you people remember "EasyNicks" plugin?

[buoyant viper]

vaguely

[tender shard]

which basically added some crypto miner lol

[wise mesa]

exactly

[sterile token]

Yes. what happen to it?

[wise mesa]

gotta automate everything

reduce my two seconds to zero

[buoyant viper]

now thats my kind of plugin

#XMR 🚀

[tender shard]

from what I know, the author went to jail

[wise mesa]

??? I'm trying to get assistance with my problems? is it that crazy?

[buoyant viper]

yes

[wise mesa]

my bad

[icy beacon]

I think the effort won't pay off if we count the amount of seconds wasted on SFTP vs seconds wasted on coding this, but I gotta respect the hustle

[orchid gazelle]

Imagine WorldEdit quietly always using 1% of our GPUs and CPUs

They would be rich rn

[tender shard]

don't worry about verano, he's usually quite high when he writes here

[wise mesa]

i mean

i've already made it

and have been using it

[icy beacon]

unmake it

[tender shard]

lmao

[wise mesa]

but trying to reduce my seconds even more 😎 😎 😎 😎

[icy beacon]

negative time wasted

bro is GAINING time when committing

[tender shard]

"yo, boss, I introduced a major flaw in Log4j back in ..." ~ "JUST UNMAKE IT"

[orchid gazelle]

time unwaste

[tender shard]

that's how log4j happenede

[wise mesa]

that's how they fixed it

[tender shard]

kinda lol

I'm still angry at md5 about it

[icy beacon]

you know what? fuck you

unmakes your plugin

[orchid gazelle]

What did md do

[tender shard]

he added fixes to spigot, way back to 1.7

he could have said "no, we only fix latest"

[orchid gazelle]

Good

Thanks for that md

[tender shard]

he could have basically give the death sentence to old versions

[icy beacon]

you are transforming into verano and there's no need to

[wise mesa]

it does this and then stops the server if enabled in the config

[orchid gazelle]

Would be sad

[wise mesa]

and I have pufferpanel set to auto restart the server on stop

[tender shard]

which I expected, because he's also the first one here to complain about "why don#t you just use latest"

[orchid gazelle]

1.12.2 modded gameplay still 10000% the best

[wise mesa]

so i just git commit and then /stop and wait

[icy beacon]

1.8 pvp still on top

[wise mesa]

but that has nothing to do with spigot

[icy beacon]

I love me some new features and better API don't get me wrong

[orchid gazelle]

It has, since less spigot 1.12.2 users -> less 1.12.2 modded users

[hazy parrot]

Is it still alive

[icy beacon]

but it's like trying to get rid of windows xp

you won't

[orchid gazelle]

-> less content for me

[tender shard]

I usually answer to people who at least use 1.16+. but I guess md did it to stop people using even more obscure forks who claim to be "spigot 1.8.8 but with log4j fixed"

[wise mesa]

?

[sterile token]

I mean i wasnt trying to being rude, just wondering to get a why, because i didnt understand what he was asking for help

[hazy parrot]

Pufferpanel

[wise mesa]

ah

no

i murdered it

brutally

[hazy parrot]

?

[wise mesa]

um no they have a discord

and they'll reply

but they don't really update it

it works well enough for me though

[tender shard]

does puffer use docker too btw? and is it "mc only", or other games too?

[wise mesa]

docker optional

[hazy parrot]

I trough that project evolved into pterodactyl lol

[wise mesa]

other games too

[tender shard]

thx

[wise mesa]

no its kinda separate

[icy beacon]

good night everyone it's 3:30 am for me

❤️

[wise mesa]

pterodactyl was meant for big production stuff

[sterile token]

oh lol, only for the reason of the auto miner?

[orchid gazelle]

So if u guys someday make a mc mod, make it 1.12.2. It is forever going to be the best modded version

[tender shard]

good night @icy beacon

[wise mesa]

pufferpanel meant for small servers and stuff you just use for yourself

[tender shard]

I hope you dream about horses

[wise mesa]

like not hosting

[icy beacon]

I will

[tender shard]

cute horses

and ducks

[wise mesa]

false

create is on latest

therefore latest is best

😎 😎 😎 😎

[orchid gazelle]

No

[wise mesa]

im too cool to listen to reason

[tender shard]

are you drunk or sth?

[orchid gazelle]

1. I don't like Create 2. Don't take the only "good" new version content mod instead of 99% of all mods 10x better or more existing on 1.12.2

[tender shard]

1.12 is outdated since like, idk. 2018

[orchid gazelle]

And its still best for modding

[tender shard]

how so? beause you don't understrand the new API?

[orchid gazelle]

All those garbage updates all the different mods did...

[tender shard]

"best for modding" is always "Latest"

[ancient plank]

Create is pog mod

[orchid gazelle]

Im talking about playing, not developing

[orchid gazelle]

1000% cap

[tender shard]

1.12 sucks ass, and not in the good way that I can talk about as a gay person

[orchid gazelle]

And all those good mods not existing on latest

[tender shard]

1.12 is so outdated, it doesnt even have turtles

[orchid gazelle]

Not for modded gameplay

[tender shard]

who tf wants to play MC without turtles

[orchid gazelle]

It has turtles with mods

[tender shard]

everyone wants to have turtles

[weak meteor]

Can someone help me with smth? lol

[orchid gazelle]

Yes just use a turtle mod then

[tender shard]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[round finch]

Turtle helmet op

[tender shard]

wtf no, we just use 1.19.4 and got turtles builtin

[flint coyote]

why use a turtle mod when you can get the same by installing the latest version? + you get updates

[tender shard]

exactly ^

[orchid gazelle]

And no im not drunk last time I drank something was saturday :)

[orchid gazelle]

10000x better mods on 1.12.2

[young knoll]

Latest has plenty of good mods

[tender shard]

so you're still drunk from yesterday

[weak meteor]

Ye, so i wanna make a world edit selection like, something like that, so im creating the hoe for that but idk how to listen when the player is clicking the blocks and stuff, so someone can help me w/that?

[young knoll]

Sure some good mods died on old versions

[young knoll]

But there are new good mods that don’t exist on those old versions

[flint coyote]

You need the player interact event

[orchid gazelle]

Latest has plenty of good mods, 1.12.2 has literally all of them (not counting create)

[tender shard]

listen to PlayerInteractEvent, then check #getItemInHand()

[weak meteor]

i tried look

i know the code isnt equal but in the moment i made it it was supposed to work.

[round finch]

Drunk coding is the best jking

[orchid gazelle]

And also, imo all the mod-updates and new mod-textures suck on latest

[tender shard]

everything I ever got paid for was done drunk, so yeah

[orchid gazelle]

Wait really? Lol

[tender shard]

DO NOT USE ==

[weak meteor]

ok

[tender shard]

1. Do not compare strings using == (use equals() instead)
2. Do not check your items using lore, name, etc, but use PDC tags instead

[orchid gazelle]

== is completely fine for enums

[tender shard]

it is, but they use it for the name

[weak meteor]

pdc?

[orchid gazelle]

Yeah but there are also some for enums, those gotta stay

[tender shard]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/persistent-data-container-the-better-alternative-to-nbt-tags/

[flint coyote]

I want to add to this that it's not just Strings, it's generally objects, unless you want to compare by reference

[young knoll]

Don’t check for custom items by name

Cough cough SLIMEFUN

[tender shard]

yes, ofc you are right - using == requires people to know what they are doing

[young knoll]

Simple rule to keeps things easy

[tender shard]

general rule: ALWAYS use equals() or Objects.equals(...) unless you know that you don't need it

[young knoll]

== for primitives and enums

Otherwise, .equals

[weak meteor]

gotta give it a try

[round finch]

Strings . equals

[orchid gazelle]

Maybe I should start writing my PDC api to finally use pdcs

And still have the vanilla feeling of nbttags

[tender shard]

you should really do that. e.g. you can use a custom PDC tag like "my_custom_item:my_awesome_netherite_sword" or sth like that

[earnest lark]

dont make fun of me for this one

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[earnest lark]

https://paste.md-5.net/esapuqovow.cs

[tender shard]

okay, promised

[earnest lark]

why do i get like 20 outputs when i get the item

[tender shard]

because you loop over the inv, and "like 20" items match that crit

[earnest lark]

no but i only have one of the items in my inventory

[flint coyote]

Why is your event handler a static void?

[tender shard]

because it doesn't need any instance vars - that's fine

[earnest lark]

idk man

i never understood static and stuff

i need to learn it

i understand how it works

just not when to use it

[tender shard]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/static-methods-and-fields-when-to-use-them-and-when-to-avoid-them/ read this pls

your current usage of static is "okay"

however you are comparing itemstacks using ==

you should NEVER do that for itemstacks

[young knoll]

Apparently paper is able to better optimize non static event handlers

Idk if that’s true

[tender shard]

use equals() instead

[tender shard]

how so?

does it complain about that too?

[young knoll]

No idea

Something about ASM maybe

[tender shard]

having a static event method is totaly fine

[flint coyote]

I do wonder why it's always true tho. There's no way they all have the same memory address

[tender shard]

I should redo my blog's design lol

[tender shard]

yeah I also wondered about that. my guess is somethig simple - they simply did not show their current code

[flint coyote]

Or the current item is AIR and the inventory is empty

[tender shard]

or the GC is very quickly in getting rid of new objects lmao

[flint coyote]

Could be that they have a single AIR itemstack and reuse it

[earnest lark]

how are those two different

[tender shard]

imagine this:

You got two people. both are called "mfnalex" and both are 28 years old

[flint coyote]

.equals() is compare by value
== is compare by reference

[tender shard]

equals() wiill be true. Because it only checks "name" and "age". However, == will be not true, because it's still 2 different people,. who just by accident have the same name & age

You should ALWAYS use equals(), unless you know why you don't wanna use it

[ivory sleet]

well its technically compare by memory address

[tender shard]

yeah

[flint coyote]

the memory address kinda is the reference

[tender shard]

also, yeah

[flint coyote]

But strictly speaking you are right, yes

[tender shard]

let's just stick to saying "use equals()"

and do idetify itemstacks, you should use PDC tags

[flint coyote]

unless you work with primitives, equals() is right 95% of the time

[tender shard]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/persistent-data-container-the-better-alternative-to-nbt-tags/

yeah, unless people wanna check for null ofc

[flint coyote]

Depending on the order of comparison you can also call equals with null

[tender shard]

tbh, when talking like this, I do understad those kotlin simps

[tender shard]

sure, that's what Objects.equals is for

[flint coyote]

The best part about kotlin is their streams imo.

[tender shard]

i dont know anything about that

[ivory sleet]

function types, null safety, coroutines and first ordered higher ordered function

[flint coyote]

They just added a lot of qol for streams

[ivory sleet]

very nice stuff

[tender shard]

all I know about kotlin is how much worse the code looks, how much more "mismaintable" it becomes by adding methods to classes that you didnt declare, and how unpredictable it is by using their fake getter/setter shit

[ivory sleet]

their java interoperability is dog water yes lol

[tender shard]

for example?

[ivory sleet]

but its a decent lang otherwise

[young knoll]

Why can’t java adopt some of that good stuff

Smh

[tender shard]

yeah idk, to me kotlin is like "wannabe java" that gets rid of all the advantages java has, while adding shitty things from other langs that nobody ever asked for

[ivory sleet]

u have Object::filter Object::let Object::any Object::map etc

or well

Any

[tender shard]

which dym?

like, not knowing what type a var has? java unfortunately adopted that 🥲

or allowing code outside of any class

[ivory sleet]

i think null optional operator would be good

[tender shard]

I strongly disagree on that

[ivory sleet]

because?

[tender shard]

I am based. I know that objects can be null in java, and primitves can't. this is truly one of those things where I don't have a strong "pro-java" argument about.

However, kotlin also fucked up,. I dont wanna use ?????? everywhere, just because it MIGHT be null

[flint coyote]

        // java
        List<String> playerNames = players.stream().map(Player::getName).toList();
        // kotlin
        val playerNames = players.map{ it.getName() }

[ivory sleet]

i am strongly for that null type semantics in terms of statement and expression operator is better than null semantics in terms of statement and expression

u wouldn't use ? everywhere tho lol

[tender shard]

the idea of null safety is "okay" / mediocre at best. it's either a stupid idea, nor was it ever needed imho

[ivory sleet]

u only use it on incoming return values and variables where null may be a possibility

[tender shard]

it's one of those things that kotlin "fixed" although it was never broken

[ivory sleet]

null is good

if used correctly

because at some point

a program has to represent absence more or less

99% of programs have to atleast

[tender shard]

good luck using a normal java lib in kotlin there, where everything now suddenly is nullable, despite the @Contract annotation

[ivory sleet]

kotlin doesnt fix stuff because stuff is broken

[eternal oxide]

the only real alternative to null would be throwing an exception]

[ivory sleet]

that's not really their aim altho its not an irrelevant factor

[ivory sleet]

that's completely besides the point

[tender shard]

exactly, kotlin causes more problems than it solves imho, If the kotlin devs would actually care about improving things, they wouldn't have invented their own weird lang, that doesn't care about types, but rather would just submit their rhoughts (as weird as they may be) to the actual java specs

[ivory sleet]

what problems does it cause?

their aim is to make a language more semantically justifiable for devs

[tender shard]

it is not, imho. Java, and kotlin, are both tools that people use to "get the job done". and if "getting the job done" requires using a java lib in kotlin, it's not "completely besides the point" to be afraid about how shitty kotlin is

[ivory sleet]

and java has also denied enhanced null control repeatedly

many java devs years after years have been complaining

[tender shard]

yeah but it does the opposite

[ivory sleet]

especially in enterprise

[ivory sleet]

well look at the android industry see where it has gone

java usage is decreasing by time

[ivory sleet]

its besides the point of how u're scared of ? everywhere which is far from true

you'd use other semantics that kotlin provide also

[flint coyote]

Another good thing about kotlin is the visibility modifier "internal".
No longer forces you to do a tradeoff between visibility and package-structure. Especially useful for libs/apis

[ivory sleet]

im not saying kotlin is the ingenious solution alex

[hazy parrot]

I hate that thing in kotlin for some reason, no package-private

[ivory sleet]

but u cant deny that null is a problem in java, that kotlin has addressed better

[tender shard]

that doesn't mean it's good though.
VHS also defeated Video2000, and trump also defeated the other... okay, let's not go into that.
My Point is, just because it "won" in some election doesn't mean it's actually better.

I also don't have any strong reasons to hate on kotlin. it's probably 200581% nicer than PHP. But I grew up with java so I defend java. idk why, but I just dislike kotlin and every "feature" it introduces, I always think "well java can do it too, just in a better way"

so yeah I am biased

[ivory sleet]

technically internal as fabsi said could achieve equivalent

but it decreased because kotlin addressed many of java's weaknesses

[hazy parrot]

Isn't internal module-private?

[ivory sleet]

the industry in programming rarely adopt something because its worse

[tender shard]

conclure are you drunk or sth?

[ivory sleet]

ye

[flint coyote]

yes

[ivory sleet]

no, why ask that?

[tender shard]

"the industry" led us to windows / win 32 api and directX

when much better alternatives were available

[ivory sleet]

the industry? that was rather the consumers

consumers liked windows

[flint coyote]

As someone who uses both java and kotlin on a daily basis (java for personal projects, kotlin at work) I can say that I would swap to kotlin if I was as fluent in kotlin as I am in Java. Sadly 1.5years of kotlin != 8 years of java

[tender shard]

fair enough, but still - just because "sth exists" and "has a greater market share", doesn't mean it's any better. I wanna remind that basically 100% of iOS apps are written in C# instead of kotlin (nor java)

[ivory sleet]

mfnalex I just think your argument for "i dont like ? everywhere" is flawed in many aspects
additionally the fact that kotlin fails to enhance or substitute important weaknesses of Java I totally disagree with

[ivory sleet]

mye

[tender shard]

vbut yeah I am based against kotlin and their shitty attitude towards java, which is probably why I dislike it so much

[flint coyote]

Aren't IOS apps swift?

[tender shard]

Depeds

[ivory sleet]

well I hate jetbrains marketing

i hate java interop kotlin provides

i hate the fun keyword

its not fun

never was

will never be

[tender shard]

XCode supports both C# and Swift, yes

[ivory sleet]

but the lang is decent

[tender shard]

And in the last years, it definitely moved to Swift, but you can still write iOS apps ini C# just fine

[ivory sleet]

oh ye swift is <3

[tender shard]

I also don't like swift, but that's a personal thing this time

I don't have any reasons to dislike it

for kotlin, I at least can bring up some things about why I dislike it lol

[ivory sleet]

ye well I like swift more than the other alternatives

yea

i like to make the argument, that kotlin is harder than java, since java has fewer ways of addressing a problem in terms of design, as opposed to kotlin where u have extension functions, first ordered functions, infix, operator overloading etc. all these things can make a code base extremely cluttered if used unrestrained and wrongly, whereas java just has the very necessary semantics and also waits an enormous time before even considering to add new features as by a means of avoiding redundancy and bloating the language

idk @flint coyote if u may have anything to add here since u use kotlin

[torn oyster]

how does one make the default world "world" use a void generator (through code or configurations)

[ivory sleet]

this makes java a more viable option conclusively (for large projects), inconclusively tho java is always the solution

[tender shard]

yeah anyway, the worst thing I hate about kotlin is how they managed to make such a nice, descriptive language, into something so unpredictable. e.g. imagine this, I got the following thing in java:

String surname;

Okay, I got a String, and it's a surname - that makes sense. a surname is usually a string, it would never be an integer, right?

And then there's kotlin:

surname: String

Hm. I got a surname. This time, it happens to be a string. that it's a string seems kinda unimportant, it only comes in at the second place. Is it ia number in the next udpate? I don't hope so

Ik it's petty

and now imagine you just do val Sth = sthElse

is this a string?

is it a CharSequence?

who tf knows?

[ivory sleet]

I think the benefit is that all the variables get aligned vertically

[tender shard]

but the type is much more important than the name

[ivory sleet]

idk, never thought about it that way actually

[hazy parrot]

It will be highest type in hierarchy, string in this case

[tender shard]

you can easily rename a var and everything still works

you change type? everything breaks

nobody cares about the name

[flint coyote]

While I do agree that you can do things a lot worse in kotlin by misusing or mixing to many features I wouldn't say that this is what makes it generally harder.
You can still not use a lot of those features and code "the java way" and you are good.
However it is true, that it's harder to "perfect" your code since there's a lot more ways to do it. Which is also why I still prefer java - java is where I know how to write clean code. I don't know all best practices in kotlin (yet)

[tender shard]

and for return types?

the opposite should be true

[ivory sleet]

yeah, makes total sense

[hazy parrot]

What

You can return smth down the inheretance chain same as in java

[tender shard]

let's just imagine that I create a method that takes in a CharSequence, and returns the "inversed" version of that CharSequence. Ofc everyone would in java just do isth like this

public static CharSequcnce reverse(CharSequence origial) {
  // now return the reversed "string"
}

Pls tell me how this would look like in kotlin

oh I forgot, kotlin doesn't even have static methods lol

you'd need a companion object, whatver that's meant to be

basically it's a useless object that's only there because kotlin devs forgot to menton that not "everything" needs an instance

[hazy parrot]

fun reverse(original: CharSequence): CharSequence {
    // logic and return? 
}

[flint coyote]

Functions in a companion object do behave like normal static functions tho. Unless you wanna use them from java, then it gets weird if they aren't annotated

[tender shard]

funny. I can only see at the end of the first line what it returns. also what's "original"? Oh, a CharSequence. Seems to be quite unimportant what the type is, granted that the name is more important

Kotlin could have been so nice, but they took everything that's nice in java, and did it wrong

also what's the "fun" for?

[hazy parrot]

Function

[tender shard]

isn't it already obvious that it's a function?

what else would it be

oh and how do static init blocks look like in kotlin

[hazy parrot]

Idk you seem first that hate it that much

[tender shard]

I do

[hazy parrot]

It's same in typescript, no one is complaining

[ivory sleet]

inline fun CharSequence.reverse(): CharSequence {
    //
}

//then
val x: CharSequence = ...
x.reverse()

this is how kt devs would do it

probably

[tender shard]

how does a static init block look like in kotlin?

[hazy parrot]

Why would you need static init block if there is no static var

[tender shard]

class MyClass {
  static {    DoSometing(); }} ```

[hazy parrot]

You define it in companion object

[tender shard]

how?

[tender shard]

idk what you mean

e.g. for fake enums, like the ENchantment class

in bukkit

[ivory sleet]

class A {
  companion object {
    //here
  }
}```

its not the same

[tender shard]

if it's not the same, I guess it's not the same

[ivory sleet]

thats right

[hazy parrot]

Init block in companion object

[ivory sleet]

it isnt meant to be also

but ye

[tender shard]

this for example. how would this look like in kotlin? because I truly don't understand itr

[hazy parrot]

That would just be object

[tender shard]

EnchantmentWrapper ofc has a normal constructor, it looks like this:

[tender shard]

wtf

[hazy parrot]

object Enchantment {
   val THORNS = Wrapper(...) 
}

[ivory sleet]

might wna annotate with @JvmStatic idr

but yea

[tender shard]

what's that annotation for?

[hazy parrot]

That java can see it as static

If you are accessing that api from java

[tender shard]

and why is that needed?

[hazy parrot]

Java static and kotlin object is not compiled to same code I would assume

Object acts as singleton

[hazy parrot]

Only if using it from java, if using it from kotlin you don't need it

[tender shard]

it's quite funny, evertime I discuss with someone about how shitty I find kotlin, the kotlin defenders come up with arguemtns that just make me belive that kotlin is even more shitty than I thought lol

[hazy parrot]

?

[ivory sleet]

well alex as said

[tender shard]

"oh sure, you just did sth totally normal in java? well in kotlin you gotta declare that it's a JVM static something/whatever, idk"

[ivory sleet]

the interop is shit

but like, kotlins way of dealing with global-"ity" encourages devs to avoid too much global state

[hazy parrot]

Well you can just drop your api support for java and don't annotate it lol

[tender shard]

there is not a single thing that kotlin ever added that java devs would find useful

[ivory sleet]

kotlin null optional operator

coroutines

[hazy parrot]

Coroutines

[tender shard]

I love having to add ???? question amrks? everyhwre

[ivory sleet]

u dont "have to"

[tender shard]

I have? to ? otherwise it doesn?t compile

[ivory sleet]

its an optional feature that many java devs like

[tender shard]

what's a coroutine?

honest questino

[ivory sleet]

na not really

[tender shard]

I don't know what coroutines are

[hazy parrot]

Similar to loom

Virtual threads

[tender shard]

loom?

[ivory sleet]

project loom

[tender shard]

erm whut 😄

sorry no clue

[ivory sleet]

structured concurrency api + virtual threads

[tender shard]

erm can you people pls gimme a tiny example

[ivory sleet]

threads that are not bound to os threads

which java threads are

as of now

[hazy parrot]

Basically can run millions of "threads" and also use them to suspend async call and return result without blocking main thread

[tender shard]

to what is it bound then, though?

[ivory sleet]

it only uses an os thread during execution

[hazy parrot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroutine

[ivory sleet]

and then the os thread can be reused for another virtual thread

[hazy parrot]

It's not specific to kotlin

But implemented in it

[ivory sleet]

https://openjdk.org/jeps/444

this makes libs like netty less "interesting" also

[tender shard]

okay I am not smart enough to understand that fully

[hazy parrot]

Basically run smth async, wait for it to complete, when it complete resume

[tender shard]

a future

?

[ivory sleet]

yes, but it isnt bound to a java thread pool

which is bound to a pool of os threads

which is expensive

and less scalable

especially if u just use small tasks with short lifetime

like an io request

[hazy parrot]

https://github.com/Goksi/PteroBot/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/tech/goksi/pterobot/util/AwaitAction.kt this is for example how I make cf return result without blocking thread

[tender shard]

but you gotta wait for it anyway, I dont really understand how it's any better than a nornal thread

[hazy parrot]

You can't really suspend normal thread, as its expensive

You can run million of coroutines

As its cheap as fuck

Idk how, don't ask me 😄

[ivory sleet]

https://itnext.io/kotlin-coroutines-vs-java-virtual-threads-a-good-story-but-just-that-91038c7d21eb

mfnalex read that

but in short its not the coroutines themselves

its how its implemented

vs how java has its current concurrency api implemented rn

[tender shard]

hm maybe i just don't need to do enough of millions of "read files" to understand the advantages that kotlin offers

[ivory sleet]

that makes kt coroutines better

[ivory sleet]

it becomes important for the enterprise tho

because in that regard scalability horizontally becomes urgently crucial to consider

[tender shard]

yeah I did not study CS or anything similar, maybe kotlin indeed offers great advantages over java that I just don't understand

[ivory sleet]

well, I find some stuff kotlin offers better and some worse

after using it judgement freely

[tender shard]

all I can tell is that I never experience ANY situation where I'd be like "oh this'd be much easier in kotlin" - for me, the opposite is true, but as said - I didnt study this, so no clue lol

[ivory sleet]

mye well

its not like java cant the job done by any means

so in essence I think ur opinion is somewhat factually valid

[tender shard]

conclure you do study CS stuff right?

[ivory sleet]

on free time yes

and math

[tender shard]

oh no well I meant, do you study CS stuff at an actual university or sth?

[ivory sleet]

na about to start that after summer

im just 18 :,)

[tender shard]

aaah nice

[ivory sleet]

yeaa

[tender shard]

damn you're so young

why is everyone so young here lol

[ivory sleet]

you're just old runs

[tender shard]

D:

inserts I AM OLD gif

[flint coyote]

I'm 24 aswell 🤷‍♂️

[ivory sleet]

oo

[tender shard]

maybe I should really look into kotlin stuff more often

[ivory sleet]

i think u should give the language a genuine try

[flint coyote]

one more year until getting older will actually feel bad

[tender shard]

but it's so annoying when you come from java

[ivory sleet]

after that, u dont have to like it

[tender shard]

everything claims to be the same but it's still so different lol

[flint coyote]

That's why I'm currently still using java for my personal projects. I might try kotlin for some smaller things in the future. I didn't start with enormous projects in java as a beginner either

[tender shard]

IIRC there's a "pull request" about kotlin to add "actual" static methods - if they'd actually add those, maybe my hate for kotlin would go down by one level

[buoyant viper]

just replaced the headlight on my car

feeling like a mechanic girl 😼🫡💪

[tender shard]

yeah I'm probably double based - whenever I tried to leanr kotlin, I also strated to use gradle

and I'm a big maven fanboiii

[ivory sleet]

groaaadle

[tender shard]

nice" what kind of car?

[tender shard]

haha yeah gradle can be frightened, maven 4 is not that far from being released

[ivory sleet]

souns like u could very much be the author of this very "PR" u so speak of

[flint coyote]

And while I know how to code in kotlin I definitly got a lot more to learn there.
Jumping from Spring Boot projects to spigot plugins with Kotlin might not be that easy.
Since spring boot has done the abstraction already and in spigot you still have to create a lot of utils yourself

[remote swallow]

we have 8 versions

get fricked

[tender shard]

and the impact of performance between maven 3 and 4 is huuuuuuuuuuge

[buoyant viper]

2016 hyundai elantra

[tender shard]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[ivory sleet]

:,)

[buoyant viper]

my passenger side light died :P

[buoyant viper]

its really my moms car :V

[tender shard]

nice. I just got my headline replaced in my Opel (I think it's Vauxhall in USA) and it costed like 50€ lol

just to replace the light

[remote swallow]

bet you drive a vauxhall corsa

[buoyant viper]

damn

i paid like $18 for the bulb n did it in my driveway

[tender shard]

shut up

[tender shard]

whut? I thought you dont even got a license

[buoyant viper]

it rly is, i cant afford a car lol

[buoyant viper]

ive been a legal driver since i turned 16 n got my permit

[remote swallow]

who let 16 year olds drive

[tender shard]

yeah cars are hela expensive. my bf looked up how much it is to just do the driver's license exam, or however it's called in germany

3400€!!!

[remote swallow]

16 is when you start to drink

[tender shard]

wtf

[flint coyote]

huh? no

the practical exam is like 100€. If you fail it you will have to take like 5 additional driving lessons which basically brings the price to 300-400€

I paid like 1400€ for my complete drivers license 5 years ago.
And I can believe that it can cost up to 3000€ these days. But that's not just the exam

[tender shard]

yeah but those numbers are a few years old, right?

it's really gotten very expensive

I also paid only like 1500€ but that was like 12 years ago

then I did my bike license (A class) and it also was 2000€

my flying license (PPLA) was surpsingly cheap at 15k€

[flint coyote]

alex the license collector

[tender shard]

I wanted to become a flight instrucor, actually

instructor*

[flint coyote]

Why did it not work out?

[young knoll]

Afraid of heights

[tender shard]

oh many issues. first one was corona. You have to have at least XYZ hours of "flying yourself" during the last, I think, 3 years

I then lost my actual normal license, because I didn'f fullfil that

[flint coyote]

meanwhile you can not drive a car for 20 years and still have your license lol

[sterile token]

`

[flint coyote]

Interesting statement!

[sterile token]

sorry

shity discord get bugged

[buoyant viper]

i just realized this wasnt #general

[tender shard]

then later on, the authority was like "yeah okay but covid19 and stuff, bla bla" and they losened trhose restrictions a bit. So I got my "normal" license back. then I started to go get the insctructor's license done. I'm still on it, but it's also extremely expensive. you can expect to pay at least 50k€ from you rown pocket

[flint coyote]

You would barely see me type in #general since I never check that channel

[tender shard]

and then there's also my fucking alcohol addiction. I went to rehab justr a few weeks ago. the flying school doesn't know about it, all they know is that I "didnt have time" for a few weeks

[flint coyote]

Yeah I know that those are expensive. I studied with someone who wanted to become a pilot. But he said he would have to pay like 100k in order to get a license to fly a commercial plane

[tender shard]

yeah when Lufthansa pays for the rest of it

if not, it's much more expensive

[flint coyote]

And then you have to stay with them for multiple years or you end up paying yourself. Got fired? Well, you're in debt

[tender shard]

I don't know much about that

[flint coyote]

He was a lufthansa student

[tender shard]

I am not, nor will I ever allowed to be, to fly "normal" planes. I will, if at all, only be allowed to teach general aviation - that's already quite hard

I am only allowed t ofly those small planes, e.g. cessna 172

[flint coyote]

Luckily my passion (coding) is a lot cheaper and easier to get started with

[tender shard]

haha same

but flying is just awesome

[flint coyote]

I already dislike driving. Idk whether I'd like flying

[tender shard]

I'm a member in my local fly club - you pay "only" a few hunred € per months, and then you can just call them and say "Yo I#d like to get the 172 on the 17th of may for a day" or sth like that

[flint coyote]

The good thing about flying is that nobody is driving 2 meters behind me while I'm already over the speed limit lol

[tender shard]

that is true, however it's still exhausting

it's a bit like driving a car but there's an additrional dimension

[flint coyote]

Checking your rear mirror while driving perfectly normal and seeing another car pretty much sitting inside your trunk is just a weird feeling

Atleast there's no obstacles in the sky

[tender shard]

and you gotta be prepared for all kinds of failures

in a car, if sth goes wrong, you can just stop -

[eternal oxide]

You can in a plane too, but the end result differs 🙂

[flint coyote]

You can do it exactly once. Just like you can bungee jump without a rope

[tender shard]

even the situations in the simulator are fucking exhausting

and there you even know "nothing can go wrong"

on the other hand, you also know "okay but it's very unlikely this will happen in real life"

[eternal oxide]

It can't be that bad just step on the brakes before you hit the ground!

[tender shard]

yeah anyway, we e.g. tried the hudson landing (there's a movie about it), I tried it 3 times, and ofc everyone always died lol

[drifting anvil]

just jump out to cancel fall damage

[eternal oxide]

has to work I've seen it in cartoons

[flint coyote]

bring a haybale

[tender shard]

go download MSFS2020, then we can speak again lol

[eternal oxide]

I played MSFS back in 1990 something. I think I only ever managed to land a cesna once.

nope was in teh 80's

[tender shard]

yeah the funny thing is, you can definitely don't do it wihout instructions, but even with with simple instructions, almost everyone could do it. But the real challange is to land safely even with failures

I have plaid like thousands of hours in simulators before my first actual landing and I was still scared as fuck

[flint coyote]

All I know is that you want the rear wheels to touch the ground first (so you basically have to pull up a little right before the landing)

[eternal oxide]

early 1987 to be precise. I could take off ok, but landing was a no no

[tender shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQGuJvSaxU here's my first ILS landing at my howm town

(when I was still in flying scool)

ILS 25 haha

I remember the outrage when the airport wanted to extend the runway but some people complained because it'd have killed some specifies of ducks that were living there or sth

[eternal oxide]

looks like you had a lot of cross wind in that vid

[torn oyster]

how come this is just not sending to bungeecord?

[tender shard]

not really, I just sucked

[eternal oxide]

ah

[torn oyster]

                ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
                switch (args[0]) {
                    case "classic" -> out.writeUTF("hexhunt");
                    default -> {
                        p.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Invalid game mode!");
                        return false;
                    }
                }
                out.writeUTF(p.getUniqueId().toString());
                p.sendPluginMessage(HexHuntExpansion.getPlugin(HexHuntExpansion.class), "bungee:queue", out.toByteArray());
                p.sendMessage(ChatColor.GRAY + "Finding you a game of HexHunt...");```

it says "Finding you a game of HexHunt..."

but on Bungee nothing comes through

bungee

    @EventHandler
    public void onPluginMessage(PluginMessageEvent e) {
        System.out.println(e.getTag());
        if (!e.getTag().equals("bungee:queue")) return;

        DataInputStream in = new DataInputStream(new ByteArrayInputStream(e.getData()));
        try {
            String channel = in.readUTF();
            UUID uuid = UUID.fromString(in.readUTF());
            ProxiedPlayer target = ProxyServer.getInstance().getPlayer(uuid);
            switch (channel) {
                case "hexhunt":
                    HexHuntServerManager hm = HexHuntServerManager.get();
                    if (hm.getServers().stream().anyMatch(s -> s.getInfo() == target.getServer().getInfo()
                            && s.getState() == MinigameState.IN_GAME)) {
                        return;
                    }
                    hm.matchmake(target);
                    break;
            }
        } catch (IOException ex) {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```

it prints random things but never "bungee:queue"

[tender shard]

isn't the actual name "BungeeCord" instead of just "buncee"?

[torn oyster]

wait hold on

would I need to register something on bungee's end too?

[eternal oxide]

you can register any channel you like, so long as it has a : in it

[torn oyster]

i have registered it on the spigot side

[eternal oxide]

?pmc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

[tender shard]

from what I know, bungee willl forward anything you like - might be mistraken, though

[torn oyster]

that's only "BungeeCord" channel stuff though

[eternal oxide]

rem,ove if (!e.getTag().equals("bungee:queue")) return; see if you get any messages

[torn oyster]

oh yeah

you need to register it

on bungee end

[eternal oxide]

yes

[torn oyster]

welp that would be it

[eternal oxide]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/sending-a-custom-plugin-message-from-bungeecord/

[spare marsh]

Does anybody know how the spigot AsyncStructureSpawnEvent was done in spigot 1.19.3? Or how I can find out how it was done.

[buoyant viper]

?stash

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[river oracle]

Still a wip I think right?

I checked a few days ago and there was still a pr related to it

Oh nvm must be dif event in the pr

[spare marsh]

Thanks

[earnest lark]

would i have to make a new Event for finding if someone placeda item into an inventory or is there a way to find that out with InventoryClickEvent

[kind hatch]

The InventoryClickEvent will work just fine for that.
You could do a simple check using InventoryClickEvent#getAction() to see if it matches InventoryAction#MOVE_TO_OTHER_INVENTORY

[earnest lark]

ok i was looking at that but i didnt understand that one

[stable dawn]

does anyone know if theres a way to add additional arrow models in the resourcepack and display them? or any ideas how to implement it

[earnest lark]

            target.getInventory().setItem(event.getRawSlot(),event.getCurrentItem());
        }```

this is just not working

[remote swallow]

== for enums

[torn oyster]

how would i check what server a pluginmessage came from
on bungee's end

[sterile token]

I dont think you can check that

Because plugin message are not sent from the server itself

Its a player packet, which means that the plugin messaging is sent thru the player connection

[torn oyster]

so can you not check what server the player is in?

            if (e.getSender() instanceof ProxiedPlayer p) {
                ServerInfo serverInfo = p.getServer().getInfo();

                if (serverInfo == null) return;

                System.out.println("test");
            }```

it never prints "test"

[sterile token]

Well you can parse the player which sent it

And then get his server info

[torn oyster]

does that not do that?

the thing i just sent

[sterile token]

try adding a debug to serverInfo and see if there is any output

Can you share your full sender and receiver code where having the issue

Because i cant help you much with little of it

[torn oyster]

@EventHandler
    public void onPluginMessage(PluginMessageEvent e) {
        if (!e.getTag().equals("bungee:minigame")) return;

        DataInputStream in = new DataInputStream(new ByteArrayInputStream(e.getData()));
        try {
            String channel = in.readUTF();
            if (!channel.equals("state")) return;
            System.out.println("new state received");

            String state = in.readUTF();

            if (e.getSender() instanceof ProxiedPlayer p) {
                ServerInfo serverInfo = p.getServer().getInfo();
                System.out.println(serverInfo);
                HexHuntServer server = HexHuntServerManager.get().getServer(serverInfo);

                if (server == null) return;

                server.setState(MinigameState.valueOf(state));

                System.out.println("test");

                switch (server.getState()) {
                    case IN_GAME:
                        HexHuntServerManager.get().newServer(); // create new server when game starts to maintain server level
                        break;
                }
            }
        } catch (IOException ex) {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```

so that basically is for the minigame servers to update the server manager when they have started

etc.

test never gets printed

but "new state received" does

[sterile token]

sout(event.getSender() instanceof ProxiedPlayer)

Before the second if check

Also why are you using plugin messaging channel?

[torn oyster]

because people here suggested it instead of sockets or whatever

its for my server deployment system

minigame

[sterile token]

If you are planning making a plugin which work with multiple servers and also need really fast server communication you can make use of redis pub-sub

But depends on what you are doing or will specially

[torn oyster]

eh it doesn't need to be too fast

it only communicates when the minigame state changes or someone wants to join

[sterile token]

Right i mention because there are some things you cant do with PMC

[rough ibex]

let's focus on what he's asking for

instead of immediately trying to shift him to an entirely different tech

[sterile token]

Yeah just mention it as an approach on future

So far have you try what i said?

.

sout(event.getSender() instanceof ProxiedPlayer)
Before the second if check

[torn oyster]

well i can't really test it

since someone is playtesting the game atm

[sterile token]

oh ok

So just ping me when you try it

[torn oyster]

yep

[summer scroll]

I'm trying to generate a giftcard on tebex with BuycraftAPI, and I got UndeclaredThrowableException and I don't know what should I do next.

Error: https://paste.md-5.net/ofepavigim.pl
Code: https://paste.md-5.net/ohewitupub.cs

[remote swallow]

which is MainCommand.java:130

[whole stirrup]

How does cancelling a BukkitRunnable work exactly? Does whatever it's doing immediately get interrupted or does it have to check if it's cancelled during the task?

[torn oyster]

it says false

[summer scroll]

It's this part

Call<GiftCardSingleListing> task = this.api.createGiftCard(new BigDecimal(amount), ConfigValue.GIFTCARD_CASHOUT_NOTE.replace("{player}", player.getName()));

[remote swallow]

something on that is throwing an exception

Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles$Lookup.<init>(java.lang.Class,int) so im guessing its something in buy craft api

[summer scroll]

Yeah I think I need to contact them to be honest.

thank you

[slow arrow]

does player.setAllowFlight(false); also disable flight (if the player happens to be flying)?

[humble tulip]

?tryandsee

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee/

[humble tulip]

Maybe not?

[slow arrow]

its like

such a simple question
I just don't wanna build and find out
cuz it'd be simpler just for someone to say yes/no

[rigid sage]

I'm bs at coding, how would I make a console command apply only to a certain world

[humble tulip]

Just apply it to that world?

[rigid sage]

Like /give @a but like only for 1 world and does this work for multiverse

[rigid sage]

Uh

[humble tulip]

You'd have the specify the world

[rigid sage]

Yea I'm dumb

[humble tulip]

Since the console isn't in a world

[rigid sage]

My brain ain't braining lol

[humble tulip]

I dont think there's a simple way to do it

[rigid sage]

Yea then I dknt think I can make the plugin

I wanna make an afk area, ppl in the afk area are given a gold ingot every 10 mins which is traded in for smtg

Smth

Obv with certain meta and stuff

[slow arrow]

Determine the BoundingBox of the AFK area
Every 10 minutes, iterate through all online players
if the player is in the correct world, and the BoundingBox contains the location of the player, give them the item

[rigid sage]

I really need to learn more coding before I do this, but thanks

[gaunt hatch]

Does anyone know the event for when the composter changes to bone mail when its full?

[slow arrow]

PlayerInteractEvent

[torn oyster]

how do i change the minimum height of a world

i want it to go back to minimum y 0

[gaunt hatch]

That is getting the item, i mean when its full and it changes to full and complete and has the white stuff on top

[slow arrow]

Yeah

PlayerInteractEvent

get the block they clicked

[gaunt hatch]

put you dont click it when it changes

[slow arrow]

if it's composter, and it's full, then your good

oh I suppose hoppers exist

[kind hatch]

There's a stage where it will change the texture and play a sound. He wants that stage.

[gaunt hatch]

^ that

[rigid sage]

I'm sorry if my questions are dumb as hell, what's a bounding box and how do I check if the player Is in the correct world

[slow arrow]

Yes, ik
you have to check the block itself for that. There won't be an event fired when it reaches that stage
You'll have to check the block based on InventoryMoveItemEvent and PlayerInteractEvent

[gaunt hatch]

That doesnt explain how using the debug stick or w/e can active it and make it change to full and complete

When it changes to stage 7 it always changes something in the backend does it with no player interaction

[slow arrow]

It isn't a separate event though

[gaunt hatch]

That doesn't fire for it

[slow arrow]

Stage 7 is a block state

There is no event for a change in block state

[gaunt hatch]

I can stop everythign else with a block state like crops growing

[final monolith]

Guys i was thinking here. Using reflections to access NMS codes is legal?

[rotund ravine]

Yes

[kind hatch]

Yes

[remote swallow]

yeah

[final monolith]

What i cannot do with NMS exactly?

[kind hatch]

Distributing raw source code is where it becomes illegal. So as long as you aren't doing that, you are fine.

[rotund ravine]

🤷🏽‍♂️

What do you want to do.

[final monolith]

A guy a time ago told me some things at using NMS isn't legal

[slow arrow]

idk how to explain it dude
They don't fire an event for when the composter reaches stage 7 cuz it reaches that state by detectable events.

[final monolith]

and i'm just trying to figure what i can/cannot do with

[rotund ravine]

Well there is really no list

You can do a lot

[final monolith]

Can i sell plugins/codes that uses reflections at the NMS?

[kind hatch]

As long as you follow the rules laid out in the EULA, which is very lax btw, you can do whatever you want.
The basic rules are don't distribute raw mojang source code and don't do anything malicious.

[rotund ravine]

Tbf selling any sort of mods is not legal.

But yeah

Sure spigot will sell it for you etc.

[rigid sage]

I'm sorry if my questions are dumb as hell, what's a bounding box and how do I check if the player Is in the correct world

[brave sparrow]

A bounding box is the rectangular box around something that determines where it can be interacted with

Blocks, entities, etc all have bounding boxes

[slow arrow]

player.getWorld().getName().equals("world")

[rigid sage]

Do I need to make a config to enter coordinates on where it needs to be or can I use it straight from a java command class

[brave sparrow]

You can just compare the world directly, you don’t need to compare the name

[brave sparrow]

What are you talking about?

Can you explain more clearly what it is you’re actually trying to do

[slow arrow]

yeah, but it isn't sounding like he is bout'a use the actual World objects lol

[brave sparrow]

?xy

[undone axle]

http://xyproblem.info/

[rigid sage]

I didnt attempt a solution since I dont know what to do

[brave sparrow]

What are you trying to accomplish

[slow arrow]

You can hardcode those coordinates if you want to
It's generally recommended to create file configuration to pull those coordinates from simply to make it more user friendly.

[brave sparrow]

At a high level, don’t worry about implementation details right now

[rigid sage]

This is what I'm trying

[brave sparrow]

What are you actually trying to do

Ok

So it depends on how you want that area to be defined

Is it intended to be configurable by the server owner?

Is it intended to be saved on server restarts?

[slow arrow]

you seem to have this lol

[brave sparrow]

Do you even want the area to be rectangular

Or do you want to support more complex areas

[rigid sage]

I am the owner, I'm always ready to go in and change it but i would like configuration

[brave sparrow]

We’re just getting started lol

[rigid sage]

Yes

[brave sparrow]

Then you should build in a config file yes

[rigid sage]

Thanks alot for helping me now btw

[slow arrow]

Bro you're gonna start having him question his life choices next XD

[rigid sage]

Alr

[brave sparrow]

“Hmmm, very interesting. So tell me more about your relationship with your mother.”

[slow arrow]

"Why did you decide to become a programmer?"
"Why would you ever want the pain of debugging over your head?"

[rigid sage]

So I would create the item, get the players in this world. How would i give the item?

[kind hatch]

"Well, it all started when I was 9 and my mother started shoving me out of her life"

[brave sparrow]

Debugging is only a pain if you don’t know how to do it

[rigid sage]

Forget the rectangular area I'll make a world with multiverse and use that

[brave sparrow]

Iterate through all the players in the world and check if they’re inside the bounding box

[slow arrow]

but its still a pain

[brave sparrow]

If they are, give them the item

[brave sparrow]

I remember in one of my college classes we had a debugging exam. Only me and one other guy finished, he’s now one of my closest friends. We always argue over who did the exam better, he finished before me but I got over a 100% because I found and fixed a bug the professor didn’t mean to include 😂

[slow arrow]

LMAO

[rigid sage]

LOOL

wait

Wrf

Discord

[brave sparrow]

Wrong message lol

[rigid sage]

Laggy as hell

Yea

I cancelled if but it still did that

[rigid sage]

I'm dumb, I barely know coding. How would I do it? Is there something like p.iterate().worldcheck or sm shit

Also an on and off command will be executed by admins

If on, well yea every 20 mins it happens

[brave sparrow]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getPlayers()

[remote swallow]

if you want it to be fully accurate for every 10 min that player is in the world track uuid + instant in a map and then a runnable starts for each player or run a runnable every minute to check if its been 10 minutes since saved instant then update the map and off it goes

[rigid sage]

Thanks

[brave sparrow]

You can also use this https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/World.html#getNearbyEntities(org.bukkit.Location,double,double,double,java.util.function.Predicate) if you still want the bounding box

[rigid sage]

Alr

[hushed pawn]

Does multiple worlds use multiple threads?

[remote swallow]

sadly not

[rigid sage]

Can I add the dependency of multiworldqnd add the name of the world?

[remote swallow]

mc is single threaded

[brave sparrow]

With some minor exceptions of course

[remote swallow]

you get the world with the world name

[rigid sage]

player.getWorld().getName().equals("world")I would replace world with world name right?

[brave sparrow]

If you already have a World object you don’t need to compare it by name

[remote swallow]

for (Player player : Bukkit.getWorld("worldname").getPlayers()) {
    //do something
}

[rigid sage]

Ale

[brave sparrow]

Also, if you’re looping through the players in the world you don’t need to check that they’re in the world lol

[rigid sage]

Alr

[rigid sage]

So just a run through, I implement command executor and start with this.
Next since the world is mentioned I just give the players the item, before this I would create the item. How to loop?

And how to make it an on and off switch? I've seen this somewhere and I know it's really basic but it's been some time

[remote swallow]

create a toggle command and save if its on or off in that + having a boolean somewhere you can check, and have a runnable/scheduler that runs every X min, checks the boolean if its on runs the for loop

?scheduling

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[rigid sage]

Alr, thanks

[rare rover]

how would i copy text in a resource and put it into my FileConfirguration?

never used bukkit's system before

kinda sucks ngl

i got

@Override
    public @Nullable FileConfiguration loadFile(@NotNull String path) {
        File file = new File(plugin.getDataFolder(), path);
        if (!file.exists()) {
            file.mkdir();
            try (InputStream in = plugin.getResource(path)) {
                Files.copy(in, file.toPath());
            } catch (Exception e) {
                e.printStackTrace();
            }
        }
        return YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file);
    }
``` which ain't workin;

[22:31:39 WARN]: java.nio.file.InvalidPathException: Illegal char <:> at index 17: plugins\MobCore\D:\Testing Server\plugins\MobCore\generators.yml

[kind hatch]

What's your input file look like?

[rare rover]

    ew:
        test: "string"```

[kind hatch]

And you're trying to copy all of that into another yaml file?

[rare rover]

Yeah

[kind hatch]

Well one way I do this is with 2 instance of FileConfiguration. I just iterate over every key and set it in the first config file.

File file1 = new File("File you want");
File file2 = new File("File you want");
FileConfiguration config1 = YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file1);
FileConfiguration config2 = YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file2);

for (String key : config2.getKeys(true)) {
  config1.set(key, config2.get(key));
}

[rare rover]

But one is a resource?

Sorry should've clarified that

[remote swallow]

if you just want to save the resource in src/main/resources just use JavaPlugin#saveResource

[rare rover]

Alr, bukkit's system for this is so goofy

But probably will get better since I don't know it

[kind hatch]

IIRC, there is a way to convert a #getResource call to an actual file. I just can't remember what it is.

[remote swallow]

you have to convert it from input stream to an input stream reader then you can load it iirc

[rare rover]

so like?

@Override
    public @Nullable FileConfiguration loadFile(@NotNull String path) {
        File file = new File(plugin.getDataFolder(), path);
        if (!file.exists()) {
            file.mkdir();
            plugin.saveResource("generator.yml", false);
        }
        return YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file);
    }```

[remote swallow]

yeah

[kind hatch]

Yeee, that was it. Cause #loadConfiguration() has a method that takes Reader as it's parameter instead of File.

[rare rover]

doesn't create it?

hmm

[remote swallow]

do you just want it in datafolder

[rare rover]

ye

[remote swallow]

if yeah, dont take a path and just set the child as "generator.yml"

[rare rover]

my bad

okay now

it create's file but nothing's in it

@Override
    public @Nullable FileConfiguration loadFile(@NotNull String path) {
        File file = new File(plugin.getDataFolder(), "generator.yml");
        if (!file.exists()) {
            try {
                file.createNewFile();
                plugin.saveResource("generator.yml", false);
            } catch (Exception e) {
                e.printStackTrace();
            }
        }
        return YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file);
    }```

wait

would i have to save it?

[kind hatch]

#saveResource() takes the file you provide in the jar and copies it to disk. It will overwrite any modifications made if you make the boolean true.

[remote swallow]

is the generator.yml actually in your jar

[rigid sage]

I know what scheduler is, don't understand runnables tho? Is runnables a way to loop? And the delay for looping is in ticks right?