because up till now I refused to touch nms
#help-development
torn shuttle
hybrid spoke
you can just adjust the module
remote swallow
because up till now I refused to touch nms
your in boomer teritory so i thought you would have done modules befor
torn shuttle
and tbf I was still hoping someone would've added a pathfinding solution by now
obsidian hearth
How do I enable royal economy shops? Whenever i click on the npc it says that shop is disabled, should I make changes in permission to open?
eternal oxide
Someone about 6 months back did a huge thread on pathfinding
obsidian hearth
<#741875845089722499>
Ohk
ancient plank
I've had many instances where I've almost made a multi-module project, but then I don't
icy beacon
please help me i've trying to make my chicken attack me for 2 days π
i just need to add a "generic.attack_damage" attribute to it but i can't
https://paste.md-5.net/huduwaqeqa.pl
https://paste.md-5.net/iqidudobax.java
first is server crash stacktrace (tl;dr: attribute not found, so the pathfinder goal for attacking me crashed the server)
torn shuttle
https://discord.com/channels/690411863766466590/1001384149246038048
depressingly the hard part about this for me is just getting minecraft to move the entity, I've already implemented pathfinding a few times in a few different game engines, that's the easy part
twilit roost
please help me i've trying to make my chicken attack me for 2 days π
i just nee...
I would use Pathfinder Goals
via 'registerGoals'
and use AttackEntityGoal
icy beacon
how would that help in adding an attribute
also according to screaming sandals it seems like attackentitygoal isn't in 1.16.5
chrome beacon
please help me i've trying to make my chicken attack me for 2 days π
i just nee...
Why are you using unmapped
icy beacon
also 1.16.5
I wonder if I can do something with this
EntityInsentient.p().a(GenericAttributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE, damage).a()
(found via EntityMonster)
quaint mantle
quaint mantle
doesnt exist
quaint mantle
what about registergoals?
icy beacon
i have this code snippet that always says "no modifier"
which means that i fail to add the attribute
icy beacon
of attributes
??
quaint mantle
if it didn't exist at all, it'd probably crash when this was called
no it wouldnt crash
icy beacon
what about registergoals?
what about it
icy beacon
no it wouldnt crash
or throw an error idc
quaint mantle
what about it
why dont you use it
quaint mantle
or throw an error idc
yes and it does throw an error
icy beacon
because if it works don't touch it
icy beacon
yes and it does throw an error
yeah it throws an error when a chicken tries to attack me
quaint mantle
so it works?
icy beacon
not when the chicken spawns
icy beacon
which is when i add the attribute
icy beacon
so it works?
in general yeah, the chicken does try to attack me so the pathfinder goal is added perfectly fine
icy beacon
so the attribute works
N O
the attribute ATTACK_DAMAGE by default is not on a chicken
and without it, the chicken can't attack
so i need to add that attribute to my chicken
quaint mantle
you could just write code that checks for when a chicken is in a 1 block radius of you, it attacks you
chrome beacon
I'm looking at the 1.19.2 Mojmapped code. Things shouldn't have changed too much. You cannot add the attribute like you're doing. You need to modify the supplier
icy beacon
you could just write code that checks for when a chicken is in a 1 block radius ...
bruh what the fuck
quaint mantle
bruh what the fuck
i mean like not the actual chicken just deal damage upon yourself
just a suggestion
icy beacon
I'm looking at the 1.19.2 Mojmapped code. Things shouldn't have changed too much...
according to this thread https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/nms-add-attack_damage-attribute-to-a-mob-that-doesnt-have-the-attribute.586397/ you can indeed add an attribute?
and what supplier exactly would i need to modify
icy beacon
i mean like not the actual chicken just deal damage upon yourself
yeah that's a super scuffed approach
quaint mantle
yea
chrome beacon
according to this thread https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/nms-add-attack_damage-...
Well that's using the paper api
icy beacon
also, this snippet of code:
EntityInsentient.p().a(GenericAttributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE, damage).a();
this is "sort of" what EntityZOmbie uses to add an attribute
chrome beacon
Don't forget to change the craftAttributes too
icy beacon
so, if I get this right:
- i get the original attrs map
- i add my attack_damage attr
- i put the attr map back in with reflection
is it?
chrome beacon
How compatible to you want to be with other plugins?
icy beacon
acceptably compatible idk honestly
chrome beacon
(that are trying to modify the same thing)
icy beacon
i'm doing a commission so i have no idea
bro is running catserver so things are gonna fail sooner or later
chrome beacon
oh no
icy beacon
yeah so far i told him that i don't guarantee that i'll get nms working
because i explicitly mention that i don't do nms in my comms details
so i'm just curious as to how far i can get
and maybe succeed
ancient plank
Hurr hurr post on spigotmc using paper api
undone axleBOT
icy beacon
wait
AttributeMapBase has an AttributeProvider field
EntityInsentient.p().a(GenericAttributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE, damage).a()
this returns an AttributeProvider
what if i mightily replace it
smoky oak
wait ur not on remapped?
icy beacon
nah 1.16.5 + i don't care enough atm
icy beacon
just tell me remapped and i'll take a look at screaming sandals lol
smoky oak
dont remember how to use acutal NMS lol
smoky oak
well like i said i used remapped
so not as big as you imagine
since yknow
methods have names
unlike native code
icy beacon
i normally use remapped π
but i just didn't care at first and now i don't care enough
chrome beacon
AttributeSupplier supplier = Chicken.createAttributes()
.add(Attributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE)
.build();
AttributeMap attributeMap = new AttributeMap(supplier);
CraftAttributeMap craftAttributeMap = new CraftAttributeMap(attributeMap);
// Use reflection to inject them
^ This is untested and using mojmaps
solar mauve
hey there
icy beacon
oh thanks Olivo, I'll try it now
icy beacon
but i was also gonna try this:
try {
final AttributeProvider provider = EntityInsentient.p().a(GenericAttributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE, damage).a();
final Field field = AttributeMapBase.class.getDeclaredField("d");
field.setAccessible(true);
field.set(this.getAttributeMap(), provider);
} catch (final Exception ex) {
ex.printStackTrace();
}
whats the 1.8-1.12 line limits for scoreboards?
icy beacon
does NMS exist in older versions
yeah
smoky oak
i mean
icy beacon
whats the 1.8-1.12 line limits for scoreboards?
16 i think
smoky oak
nms exists in all versions
smoky oak
its just becoming increasingly more difficult to use the older it is
sterile token
Any simple way for doing a cooldown before getting teleported?
sterile token
no no
sterile token
I mean wait some time before doing x
icy beacon
a map<UUID, Integer>
sterile token
A delay mainly
smoky oak
uuid long
icy beacon
value is seconds before it's accessible again
sterile token
no no that no
smoky oak
int cant contain timestamps
icy beacon
or you can make Long and make it ticks
sterile token
Im doing a teleport, so before teleporting i need to display:
Teleporting in 5 seconds
teleporting in 4 seconds
...
...
Etc
icy beacon
ah
sterile token
So mainly a delayed schedule?
quaint mantle
make a loop
icy beacon
well just get an int and decrease it until it's 0
quaint mantle
exactly
sterile token
Hmn
icy beacon
basically the following
you have 2 schedulers
one to teleport
one to send the message
the teleport scheduler will be ran in X seconds
and the sender will be ran every second
but when the int reaches 0, the sender stops
sterile token
right ik, i having problems with the logic
eternal oxide
one task
quaint mantle
bro make a loop that loops 5 times
then just put a sleep(1) and then ur message
eternal oxide
no sleep
glad prawn
Yes
icy beacon
```java
AttributeSupplier supplier = Chicken.createAttributes()
...
is my browser logging or isn't CraftAttributeMap not a thing?
in mojang
sterile token
bro make a loop that loops 5 times
then just put a sleep(1) and then ur message
Dont minecraft work on 1 thread, so sleep will make the whole server to stop π€
icy beacon
bro make a loop that loops 5 times
then just put a sleep(1) and then ur message
the fuck
?scheduling
undone axleBOT
native gale
Btw, what I am curious about. Let's say I somehow got a decompiled source code of let's say Minecraft 1.2.5 server. What if I take and re-implement the everything by myself using that source code as the reference. And by "re-implement" I mean not modifying the existing thing, but making my own thing from scratch. Does this still count as copyright infringement?
sterile token
<https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/>
I know
Just having troubles with the logic
icy beacon
Btw, what I am curious about. Let's say I somehow got a decompiled source code o...
probably consult mfnalex for legal advice
native gale
Btw, what I am curious about. Let's say I somehow got a decompiled source code o...
This is a hypothetical question, I am not going to do this
sterile token
Just want to get the logic explained
native gale
probably consult mfnalex for legal advice
Is he a lawyer or smth?
sterile token
Is he a lawyer or smth?
Yes, smth like that
native gale
Yes, smth like that
Oh wow, that's actually cool
eternal oxide
repeating timerjava int loop 5; @Override run() { sendMessage... loop--; if (loop == 0) { teleport; this.cancel; } }
sterile token
repeating timer```java
int loop 5;
@Override
run() {
sendMessage...
loop--;
if (...
right, but what about if i have many players?
Will the task get re executed?
eternal oxide
one task per player
as they won;t run at the same time
unless it's a countdown for all players, then use a Set of the players UUIDs
icy beacon
@chrome beacon thanks for your help, i'm going to be trying this now
final AttributeProvider provider = EntityChicken.eK().a(GenericAttributes.ATTACK_DAMAGE, damage).a();
final AttributeMapBase base = new AttributeMapBase(provider);
final CraftAttributeMap map = new CraftAttributeMap(base);
try {
final Field attributeMapField = EntityLiving.class.getDeclaredField("attributeMap");
final Field craftAttributeMapField = EntityLiving.class.getDeclaredField("craftAttributes");
attributeMapField.setAccessible(true);
attributeMapField.set(this, base);
craftAttributeMapField.setAccessible(true);
craftAttributeMapField.set(this, map);
} catch (final Exception ex) {
ex.printStackTrace();
}
OH MY GOD
yes modifier
moment of truth
quaint mantle
does the turkey deal damage now
icy beacon
i'd like to thank my parents, friends and everyone who supported me
and especially olivo
a life saver
i owe you my firstborn
icy beacon
does the turkey deal damage now
yup
quaint mantle
kk
quaint mantle
lol thats sick
icy beacon
yeah haha
gotta now apply it to them
shouldn't be hard
i don't wanna eat my words
quaint mantle
what type of commission is this lmao
icy beacon
well
torn shuttle
yo modules are whack
icy beacon
the main part is that mobs now have customizable health, and after they die, they rotate 180 degrees instead of dying
one can them click them multiple times
every time they drop something
icy beacon
after a select amount of drops the mob dies
but also a part of the commission is that these mobs now attack the player
quaint mantle
why would anyone ever need that
icy beacon
well i have no fucking clue
quaint mantle
lol
quaint mantle
what do u need json for
hasty prawn
yay nms 
icy beacon
i really thought that writing a custom json deserializer was the hardest part of this project
silly me
torn shuttle
libraries take care of that for you
icy beacon
etc
icy beacon
libraries take care of that for you
yeah no i wasn't writing an entire json library
i was writing a gson deserializer from the file to my class
well this project is quite fun
apart from the times when i wanted to rip my shirt apart
quaint mantle
i need ideas for a project
quaint mantle
lol
winged anvil
i need ideas for a project
code a socket
quaint mantle
code a socket
a socket for what
quaint mantle
one that charges stuff
an irl socket
icy beacon
yeah
torn shuttle
sticking your finger in and getting electrocuted
winged anvil
like a server socket
winged anvil
is there really no way i can make a completely raw custom socket
quaint mantle
and pass that through copper wire
icy beacon
sticking your finger in and getting electrocuted
make the electrocution power configurable through a .properties file
hasty prawn
Make a server socket that charges the sender $0.50 per message then pitch it to Apple
icy beacon
Make a server socket that charges the sender $0.50 per message then pitch it to ...
why not make the price exponentially increasing
hasty prawn
tardy delta
sterile token
but i'm getting my money's worth
Why NMS? Why dont just code on none legacy versions
Legacy versions resources should be removed so then you oblise and encourage them to use latest versions
Cuz if servers doesnt add the ability for something its because its hasa reason if not they would allow to do everything
icy beacon
Why NMS? Why dont just code on none legacy versions
oh so non-legacy versions have a non-nms way to add custom pathfinder goals to entities?
sterile token
oh so non-legacy versions have a non-nms way to add custom pathfinder goals to e...
Legacy src must be cleaned and so people just use latest versions
icy beacon
answer the question
winged anvil
?paste
undone axleBOT
sterile token
answer the question
I mean i dont understand what you mean, but just dont mess with legacy versions and stick to 1.19
Thats the way for going
icy beacon
i already code for latest versions normally
but this commission is kinda out of this world
it's not just 1.16.5
bro is running catsevrer
so it's probably gonna die sooner or later
quaint mantle
who still runs catserver
icy beacon
like 2 pepople
sterile token
whats sponge?
icy beacon
why dont they use sponge or smth
i have no idea
sterile token
i never heard about those weird things
icy beacon
i thought you'd noticed that this commission is very weird
why ask questions
just go with the flow xd
icy beacon
yeah
quaint mantle
maybe i should make a core
sterile token
maybe i should make a core
Oh no please, if us dev cotinues making legacy coding, they wont stop using them
π
So we must encourage ppl to use latest versions and dont use harcoded legacy versions
quaint mantle
legacy >>
sterile token
legacy >>
Not for devs, they just lost their time cuz of shity api
Also latest versions have better api implementations
quaint mantle
ok but i dont like the latest version
sterile token
ok but i dont like the latest version
You must code on it
smoky oak
i still hard code shit wdym modern code isnt hardcoded
quaint mantle
nO
smoky oak
*new
sterile token
Spigot doesnt give support on legacy versions, because they are already out of they hand
quaint mantle
Spigot doesnt give support on legacy versions, because they are already out of t...
so? wtf
sterile token
That why i have try to explain md5 plenty of times to delete the the legacy sources, so then people is encourage to use 1.19. If not the wheel of using legacy versions wont stop
π€
torn shuttle
md5 is not the authority on minecraft, if spigot decides to take down old code just because people will just stop using the service
sterile token
md5 is not the authority on minecraft, if spigot decides to take down old code j...
They should, because legacy versions only cause issues. That why they are deprecated
quaint mantle
They should, because legacy versions only cause issues. That why they are deprec...
elaborate
torn shuttle
legacy versions are stable and some software only works for that one version. People are allowed to choose which version they want to use
quaint mantle
+1
icy beacon
have you heard about opinions
or have you only heard about opinion
like singular and plural
sterile token
Now I'm with the translator, what I'm trying to say is that if you keep supporting legacy versions people will keep using them and that will never stop. The reason for removing legacy sources is to force people to use the new versions. Since they are the functional ones, they are up to date and open to suggestions.
icy beacon
why does it pain you that people use legacy versions
code for your 1.19 and be happy and dandy
quaint mantle
Now I'm with the translator, what I'm trying to say is that if you keep supporti...
and whats the problem
with legacy
torn shuttle
if I run a server that is 1.12 because there's a minigame that only existed for 1.12 I am not going to update because you forced me to update, I'm going to another server that allows me to download the version that will work for the software I want to use
icy beacon
yep
tardy delta
wdym support?
sterile token
Anyway, I see that you are not understanding my point of view. So I'm going to continue in class. Because I will only waste time arguing. Besides it obviously makes too much sense to only use recent versions.
quaint mantle
Anyway, I see that you are not understanding my point of view. So I'm going to c...
it really doesnt
icy beacon
you'd be a great politician
quaint mantle
some people want to use old combat in games such as skywars etc
honestly i never play 1.19
eternal night
Deleting legacy source sounds pretty dumb indeed
tardy delta
Anyway, I see that you are not understanding my point of view. So I'm going to c...
well fuck those people and go make your own fork with new apis?
sterile token
Deleting legacy source sounds pretty dumb indeed
Why? So then people must use new api functionalaty ΒΏ? New api versions have better things
quaint mantle
bro why does it matter to you
not everyone wants better things
let people choose
like wtf is ur argument rn
sterile token
bro why does it matter to you
Because thats causing 1.19 comissions global market going down, and we dev ends losting money
sterile token
It is not possible to waste your time looking for solutions to problems for legacy versions and get paid a lot of money on top of that. When in 1.19 they wouldn't have that kind of problems, because the apis are correctly designed.
torn shuttle
Because thats causing 1.19 comissions global market going down, and we dev ends ...
this has to be the stupidest take I have ever seen on anything
so we have to get rid of software that works for older versions so you can make money selling updates?
quaint mantle
That why i have try to explain md5 plenty of times to delete the the legacy sour...
idk what u mean by this but even if hes gonna remove 1.8 spigot or whatever u mean there will be other people who make it
icy beacon
It is not possible to waste your time looking for solutions to problems for legacy versions and get paid a lot of money on top of that.
i'm currently working on an expensive 1.16.5 commission
quaint mantle
bukkit will always exist
icy beacon
according to you 1.16.5 is legacy
quaint mantle
exactly
sterile token
according to you 1.16.5 is legacy
Legacy is up to 1.16, 1.16+ are newer
icy beacon
you said this implying that 1.16.5 is legacy lmao
otherwise why the fuck did you say that
tell me
sterile token
YOu never mention u where on 1.16 π
winged anvil
major coder beef
icy beacon
so why did you even mention legacy
young knoll
1.16 is still legacy
icy beacon
did you just assume i was coding in legacy because i was using unmapped
what the fuck
icy beacon
1.16 is still legacy
yeah but that's not the main point rn
icy beacon
Because thats causing 1.19 comissions global market going down, and we dev ends ...
this is
icy beacon
It is not possible to waste your time looking for solutions to problems for lega...
and this
sterile token
The point is that legacy versions are a mess and they should be taken out of market. So we latest versions get paid the money they should
icy beacon
what the actual fuck
quaint mantle
The point is that legacy versions are a mess and they should be taken out of mar...
bro what the fuck
what is ur argument
icy beacon
we should kill old people so youngsters have more bus seats
sterile token
And no getting paind less with the excusa that legacy versions are difficult to work and they get paid more by that excuse
icy beacon
old people are harder to look after, too
quaint mantle
ur argument is like "they should delete other games so us minecraft devs can make more money"
eternal night
Why? So then people must use new api functionalaty ΒΏ? New api versions have bett...
You don't force anything with that
You just force people to get 1.8 from other sources
tardy delta
watching people discussing is always interesting
eternal night
Sources that aren't as reliable
quaint mantle
You just force people to get 1.8 from other sources
exactly
icy beacon
watching people discussing is always interesting
i dedicate at least 40 minutes a week specifically to argue with strangers on the internet
tardy delta
wasted time
eternal night
Does running 1.8 make sense ? Fuck no, the software has not been maintained for eternity and is riddled with bugs
icy beacon
and after coding in nms for 6 hours i need to put my anger somewhere
sterile token
Sources that aren't as reliable
That why, so them they will see thats 1.8 is not the way, and they will move to 1.19
π€
quaint mantle
That why, so them they will see thats 1.8 is not the way, and they will move to...
because game mechanics
eternal night
That why, so them they will see thats 1.8 is not the way, and they will move to...
That makes 0 sense
You are talking about a userbase that actively uses unmaintained software
icy beacon
That why, so them they will see thats 1.8 is not the way, and they will move to...
i still play in 1.8 and code in 1.19
what's your argument
quaint mantle
i still play in 1.8 and code in 1.19
this is me
eternal night
They don't give a shit about where and how reliable the server is
Else they would be using maintained software e
Imo we could have just let them die with log4j2
Or well it's exploit
wet breach
Does running 1.8 make sense ? Fuck no, the software has not been maintained for ...
the only sense in going with 1.8 is if you wanted a minimal code base in comparison to right now for some kind of custom fork or something
winged anvil
https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837
thats what im saying
wet breach
start up times are meaningless
icy beacon
that's an example
tender shard
1.19 takes 2 seconds on my laptop (using spigot)
wet breach
regardless of server other then mc, start up times are meaningless
torn shuttle
1.19 takes 2 seconds on my laptop (using spigot)
the hell
eternal night
M2 zoom
wet breach
starting up faster doesn't yield any benefits
icy beacon
i'm just generally talking about legacy software and hardware requirements
torn shuttle
starting up faster doesn't yield any benefits
it does for development purposes
icy beacon
used minecraft as an example
icy beacon
it does for development purposes
+1
wet breach
then disable stuff you are not using
eternal night
Or hot reload...
torn shuttle
you can't hot reload everything
icy beacon
but my point still stands π
eternal night
jetbrains runtime gets very far
torn shuttle
and sometimes you can't even hot reload things you should be able to
eternal night
Far enough for the repeated tweaking you do during development
Use a hot reload focused runtime then
wet breach
but, yeah in terms of server development, some people in the mc community are kind of spoiled between what some of the community provides and mojang though especially if you have a complain of how slow the server starts up and its not even past the 1 minute mark lmao
tender shard
1.19 takes 2 seconds on my laptop (using spigot)
4.2 seconds when running anno 1800 in the background
icy beacon
4.2 seconds when running anno 1800 in the background
i
'll buy your laptop
30$
it's a great deal
winged anvil
https://paste.md-5.net/ucavazifuh.cs this read() method intercepts every packet even with the generics. Is there a way to only intercept one packet without hardcoding the <PacketPlayIn...> ?
wet breach
it would make sense to code towards that one packet
if all you wanted was that one packet
using generics goes in the opposite direction of that
winged anvil
im tryna make multiple classes that listen to different packets
and dont want to copy paste this method but i can if i really need to
wet breach
then make a method where you can supply the packet you are wanting?
tender shard
why not
torn shuttle
the quick answer to that is that I have no idea of how to use modules correctly
I need something that will allow me to use mappings and also reobfuscate them per module
tender shard
take a look at this: https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib
the "core" module defines an interface AbstractNMSHandler.
the "spigot-1.19.X" modules implement that.
"core" also has a method to create the matching implementation through reflection.
the "dist" module then depends on core and each implementaiton and shades it into one jar
remote swallow
imagine needing a dist module
tender shard
it's not needed but this way you don't have to add all the specific versions to your pom
remote swallow
i should port jefflib to gradle
icy beacon
alex will kill you
tender shard
good luck
torn shuttle
can you even do that in gradle
remote swallow
yes
wet breach
I should make a maven plugin out of jefflib
remote swallow
i do it
tender shard
can you even do that in gradle
it only takes 3 weeks
remote swallow
i could do it in a few hours now
torn shuttle
I thought you couldn't even run the mappings on gradle
icy beacon
text wall
tender shard
i could do it in a few hours now
then do it pls
remote swallow
I thought you couldn't even run the mappings on gradle
paperweight
icy beacon
?paste
undone axleBOT
torn shuttle
christ
remote swallow
then do it pls
but thats effort
torn shuttle
this is just a nightmare
icy beacon
please either create a discord thread or upload your code to the paste
haughty storm
please either create a discord thread or upload your code to the paste
sorry
wet breach
I see they like making things null
young knoll
So me
remote swallow
yea
wet breach
i got it from minetweaks first
so then, who was the first π€
remote swallow
he owns minetweaks :kekw:
haughty storm
How can I add custom goals to my Entity class. I want it to fight for and follow the player. This is my entity class
https://paste.md-5.net/pujebekeni.java
I also already have a Goal class but I couldn't find anything on Goals in nms in 1.19
https://paste.md-5.net/icacalefir.java
quaint mantle
i remember my 1.8 test server launching in like 1.5 seconds
yea performance is a big thing in 1.19
torn shuttle
humans are not supposed to be doing this, we are supposed to be supposed to be picking up a big wheelbarrow like full of logs and building a house
tender shard
How can I add custom goals to my Entity class. I want it to fight for and follow...
by adding it to the goalSelector field
public class MyChicken extends Chicken {
public MyChicken(Level world) {
super(EntityType.CHICKEN, world);
goalSelector.addGoal(0, new MyGoal(...));
}
}
To conclude it does not seem right to me that a simple developer of 1.8, this charged more than a programmer 1.19. When the api of 1.19 is much more complete and more possibilities. So it is almost impossible to earn less in 1.19 on the contrary. They would have to earn much more
haughty storm
by adding it to the goalSelector field
```java
public class MyChicken extends Ch...
I can't acces the goalSelector field in my class
wet breach
To conclude it does not seem right to me that a simple developer of 1.8, this ch...
I don't understand your complaint here
torn shuttle
To conclude it does not seem right to me that a simple developer of 1.8, this ch...
so because the tools are better and because the documentation is better and the work is easier people doing commission work for 1.19 should be making more money is your new point?
wet breach
so because the tools are better and because the documentation is better and the ...
that is what you got from that? lol
tender shard
I can't acces the goalSelector field in my class
why not?
icy beacon
To conclude it does not seem right to me that a simple developer of 1.8, this ch...
yeah so a 1.8 should charge more because they have to work with that abomination of an api
on the other hand 1.19 has a shit ton more possibilities
thus opening the room for more comms maybe
dude what the fuck are you trying to prove
torn shuttle
that is what you got from that? lol
is it not what you did?
haughty storm
why not?
I don't think the LivingEntity class has that field, bc it doesn't seem to be there
wet breach
no
tender shard
I don't think the LivingEntity class has that field, bc it doesn't seem to be th...
then extend Mob
LivingEntity has no pathfinding
quaint mantle
To conclude it does not seem right to me that a simple developer of 1.8, this ch...
ok so?
wet breach
is it not what you did?
what I got is they are complaining that devs for 1.19 get paid less or something then those for 1.8?
quaint mantle
why does it bother u
haughty storm
then extend Mob
ah, ok. Thank you
torn shuttle
what I got is they are complaining that devs for 1.19 get paid less or something...
I mean that's part of what I said
wet breach
but their typing makes it hard to determine
sterile token
what I got is they are complaining that devs for 1.19 get paid less or something...
Exactly that
wet breach
then get better
torn shuttle
so I was right then
wet breach
because they market better then you do
torn shuttle
Why 1.8 get paids More if the api Is shity compares with 1.9
because you have to pay for people to wrangle with a shitty legacy api
which a lot of people are not willing to put up with
tender shard
Why 1.8 get paids More if the api Is shity compares with 1.9
becase the api is so shitty, coding for it is harder. also nobody wants to mess with this shitty API, so less developers, so more money for them
wet breach
and there is that, but really it just comes down to just doing business better. A developer for a recent version can make just as much if not more then a dev for 1.8
but the opposite is true too
torn shuttle
it's almost like asking someone to do something harder to do costs more money than asking someone to do something easy to do
sterile token
because you have to pay for people to wrangle with a shitty legacy api
But that's server problems, they shouldnt be using legacy
wet breach
really it just comes down to the developer knowing business
torn shuttle
But that's server problems, they shouldnt be using legacy
it's like I'm arguing with a toddler so I'm just going to stop
wet breach
But that's server problems, they shouldnt be using legacy
they can use whatever they want if they are the ones footing the bill
sterile token
they can use whatever they want if they are the ones footing the bill
That's right, but why spigot doesn't support 1.8 anymore?
wet breach
because it doesn't have to
spigot doesn't have an army of developers to maintain all the various versions and variants of code
tender shard
That's right, but why spigot doesn't support 1.8 anymore?
why would spigot support ANYTHING that's not the latest version? o0
imagine doing apt-get upgrade then being upset that it uses the latest version from the repo, instead of an 9 year old version lol
wet breach
lol
sterile token
Right, but people doesn't have too, they should always stick to newer Versions. Is the same using oAuth 1.0 and complaining to Google that the versiΓ³n 1.0 has issues, while latest Is 2.0
torn shuttle
verano is single-handedly lowering the room IQ down into the single digits
tardy delta
π€
wet breach
Right, but people doesn't have too, they should always stick to newer Versions. ...
the person who runs spigot, it is their choice in how spigot does stuff
not sure if that makes sense or not
literally if md_5 decided he wanted to start supporting old versions, that would be the thing with spigot from then on
its no different then other people who run servers choosing to use what they want because it is them that foots the bill
wet breach
I am still unsure what exactly is your point or what is your argument other then you being upset that 1.8 developers get paid more
remote swallow
jefflib hurts
tender shard
and key is not Something
sterile token
So you are not being clarify at all, so far spigot comm wants to support 1.19 only, but they don want to remove legacy sources. So that doesnt make Sense at all. Cruz ppl Will Co tinues using legacy versions
young knoll
If spigot removes them people will still get them
Better to provide an official source
wet breach
So you are not being clarify at all, so far spigot comm wants to support 1.19 on...
legacy sources exist because it is part of the git history
sterile token
Oh ok
wet breach
if you wanted spigot 1.6 you can still get it
tender shard
have you never heard of buildtools? o0
wet breach
buildtools won't build 1.6 spigot π
however you can do it yourself since you have the entire git history
torn shuttle
Guys just stop, there is nothing to understand. Verano is just mad because other people are making more money than him and he thinks it's unfair because they are doing support for legacy versions when spigot does not, so he can't get the help he would need to figure out how to do these services. His solution is to just remove old versions, because if he can't make money programming for them, then they just shouldn't exist. There is no deeper meaning or discussion here, it's been ongoing for the last hour at this point.
wet breach
literally anyone who uses buildtools everyone has the entire history
winged anvil
yall are making money?
wet breach
of course
torn shuttle
dolla dolla
sterile token
Guys just stop, there is nothing to understand. Verano is just mad because other...
Lol rude, no need tho
torn shuttle
Lol rude, no need tho
yes, but is it inaccurate?
wet breach
its not rude when that seems to be the truth
torn shuttle
if your opinion sounds rude when read back to you then maybe you have a problem, not me
sterile token
I just wondering yo get a real explanaciΓ³n of why sources are there, but they dont want to sipport them?
That's my question
I just having some english issues
torn shuttle
I just wondering yo get a real explanaciΓ³n of why sources are there, but they do...
because there is no reason to remove them, and because people depend on them and will find them elsewhere if spigot takes them down
wet breach
sources are there because you are allowed to use them, just because spigot stopped providing support doesn't mean sources need to disappear too. This would literally be counter intuitive to open source philosophy
tender shard
I just wondering yo get a real explanaciΓ³n of why sources are there, but they do...
wdym?
sterile token
Oh ok i understand the reason with tour text frost
wet breach
however when you decide to use old code, its is up to you to handle any problems you encounter, spigot won't provide the support if you do. That is the only catch
sterile token
Okay that's what i was wondering yo Heard
Just the reason of why they dont support them
Thanks to all, and sorry for being so ashole
tender shard
imagine someone comes to you and is angry because there's a bug in version beta 1.3 of your software. Would you now fix the bug in version beta 1.3 that's 15 years old, or would you tell them "it has been fixed in version 1.6 10 years ago"?
wet breach
and if they were smart enough, and it was open source
they could back port the code themselves
sterile token
imagine someone comes to you and is angry because there's a bug in version beta ...
I would tell to sitck to newer Versions, because legacy are deprecated. If not it Will work on that versiΓ³n
ancient plank
I dropped my last brain cell help
torn shuttle
I dropped my last brain cell help
I warned about this very moment a while ago
we're going to have to create a containment zone to stop this intellectual disaster from spreading
mighty pier
public final void toggle() {
if (toggled){
enable();
} else {
disable();
}
}``` it feels wrongthe way you're supposed to structure packages inside of modules is eluding me
torn shuttle
so each module gets its own package directory, and the core also gets its own package directory, and you also make the pom that handles all of the modules and that pom is at the top level of packages? Does it still need a package because I seem to be having a hard time linking the modules together when it doesn't
pseudo hazel
what do you even mean by module
tardy delta
id rather call it a feature
tender shard
so each module gets its own package directory, and the core also gets its own pa...
parent pom: doesn't really do anything
core pom: declares the interface that the nms modules implement
dist pom: has core and all the nms modules as dependency and shades them into one jar
is that what you mean?
mighty pier
id rather call it a feature
it fixes some overlappings so thank
livid dove
I just wondering yo get a real explanaciΓ³n of why sources are there, but they do...
Everyone has forgotten the worst kept secret reason for keeping sources open.
One day you might have a catastrophic failure built upon a bad decision made many many moons ago.
Always good to have the safety net of the old code if god forbid that happens
young knoll
Doesn't need to be open source for that
mighty pier
when github get suspended cause you gave kids a ram eater π
livid dove
Doesn't need to be open source for that
No but encouraging even a tiny community to bodge job with your old source code ain't a bad problem to have if u do ever have to 20 billion steps backwards π
mighty pier
how do i do the thing where i can send different strings based on a boolean?
alpine swan
in onCommand, what is contained in the label?
remote swallow
if (boolean) {
sendMessage(1);
} else {
sendMessage(2);
}
Or
mighty pier
no there was another way
young knoll
String message = boolean ? "a" : "b"
remote swallow
ternary operator
ancient plank
Ternary
young knoll
I'll tern your ary
tender shard
in onCommand, what is contained in the label?
/blabla asd -> label is "blabla"
young knoll
It's whatever alias is used basically
mighty pier
public class FeatureManager {
private static List<Feature> features = new ArrayList<>();
static {
Feature fly = new FlyFeature();
features.add(fly);
KeyBindManager.initKeyBind(fly);
}
public static List<Feature> getFeatures() {
return features;
}
}``` good feature manager?or bad very naughty
i heard not use static if you create object or something
but i forgor
pseudo hazel
you shouldnt make the manager static like this I think
it will limit your options
if you really want only 1 instance of it, just create it in your plugin class and create a getter for it
but if for some cursed reason you need multiple feature managers you cant make it static
torn shuttle
parent pom: doesn't really do anything
core pom: declares the interface that t...
in https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib/blob/master/pom.xml that pom.xml file is in the jefflib package but the way it is referred to in other poms is through com.jeff_media so my question really is do I need to put the parent pom in a specific package setup?
tender shard
i am not sure what you mean with "package"
torn shuttle
groupid
tender shard
i use the same groupid for all modules
but it doesn't matter what you use as groupid and artifactid, as long as you use the same thing in your modules to declare the parent
echo basalt
```java
if (boolean) {
sendMessage(1);
} else {
sendMessage(2);
}
```
just be a gamer and don't use java
young knoll
Just ternary everything
torn shuttle
I keep getting these pom.xml files to tell me that they are referencing themselves or trying to get the parent from remote instead of getting it from the one that is meant to be managing the modules
young knoll
sureeee
tender shard
MyLib-parent:
groupId: me.username
artifact: mylib-parent
dependencies: none
packaging: pom
MyLib-dist (or just MyLib):
groupId: me.username
artifact: mylib-dist (or just mylib)
parent:
groupId: me.username
artifactId: mylib-parent
dependencies:
me.username.mylib-core (compile)
me.username.mylib-1.19.4 (compile)
me.username.mylib.1.19.3 etc...
plugins: maven-shade
MyLib-core:
groupId: me.username
artifact: mylib-core
parent: same as above
dependencies: spigot-api
MyLib-1.19.4:
groupId: me.username
artifact: mylib-1.19.4
pΓΌarent: same as above
depencencies: core, spigot
plugins: specialsource (for remapping)
nah that causes problems
1.19.2 and 1.19.3 have different mappings but the same package R1 version thing
for example
or was it 1.19.1 and 1.19.2? whatever
amber vale
How can I cast Block into Switch?
remote swallow
1.19.3 is R2
tender shard
How can I cast Block into Switch?
what is a switch?
tardy delta
damn convention
tender shard
1.19.3 is R2
and 1.19.4 is too, yet different mappings
tardy delta
something you can switch on and off
remote swallow
1.19.4 is R3
amber vale
what is a switch?
It's the subclass, which is just a lever in minecraft
remote swallow
i checked it
tardy delta
cast blockdata
tender shard
ok then it was 1.19.1 and 1.19.2
both have R1
yet the mappings are different
that's why just using the R1, R2 thing is not reliable
they are the same in 99% of cases, but not 100%
young knoll
I was told .1 is R1, .2 and .3 are R2, and .4 is R4
tardy delta
It's the subclass, which is just a lever in minecraft
talking about this deprecated stuff?
remote swallow
amber vale
talking about this deprecated stuff?
Deprecated? More like "really awesome to use"
tender shard
what even is a "switch type block"
young knoll
Levers
tender shard
why doesn't it just use BlockFaces, like ItemFrames do
amber vale
Uhh
Why is a lever
When pulled one way
A Material.LEVER
And the other way it just simply isn't
When you pull a lever down, and check if it is of Material.LEVER, it isn't
But when pulled up (off) it is Material.LEVER
tender shard
what is it when it's pulled down?
worldly ingot
why doesn't it just use BlockFaces, like ItemFrames do
Item frames are entities
Previously levers were able to be placed on ceilings, walls, and floors. Buttons could not be. They were only placeable on walls
So the Switch.Face property was for levers exclusively
amber vale
what is it when it's pulled down?
Idk
tender shard
print it out
remote swallow
on
worldly ingot
If you're using < 1.13, they were different blocks types iirc
tender shard
did anything big change in 1.13? Materials were added a looong time prior
worldly ingot
Everything was flattened. It's when byte data was removed
amber vale
Uhh
tender shard
yeah but the byte shit was deprecated since at least 1.9
amber vale
I have no fucking clue
worldly ingot
Or, more accurately, hidden by implementation
torpid blaze
Hey,
Has anyone any Idea on how to let players enchant an item multiple times in an enchanting table?
worldly ingot
Bukkit deprecated it because they were magic numbers
amber vale
It is of lever
worldly ingot
Its replacement in Bukkit was an abstraction layer, MaterialData
amber vale
But I guess it doesn't want to be a lever when checking it on one way
Lmao
It is a lever both ways, but only on way way does it want to be a lever in an if statement
tardy delta
Its replacement in Bukkit was an abstraction layer, MaterialData
which wraps magic numbers 
worldly ingot
which wraps magic numbers <:uwu:910442589151445044>
Yeah behind some more sane API
It just was never complete lol
You can!
With Fabric or Forge!
young knoll
Can we fix server side ones
tardy delta
if you want to fix bugs, use minestom
tawdry parcel
Why is the BaseComponent[] not appearing correctly?
Code: https://paste.md-5.net/nejolavehi.java
Output:
tardy delta
lookin good
young knoll
Because the chat event doesn't support components
tender shard
Why is the BaseComponent[] not appearing correctly?
Code: https://paste.md-5.net...
because the + operator calls toString
tawdry parcel
because the + operator calls toString
and how can I fix that?
tender shard
TextCOmponent.toLegacyText turns a BaseComponent[]into a string, but not sure if that'd work with click events and such
yeah sure, what else would it do
to properlly turn an array into a string, you'd use Arrays.toString
tawdry parcel
to properlly turn an array into a string, you'd use Arrays.toString
but then I get the component in json
tender shard
to properly print out an array normally, one would use Arrays.toString(), e.g.
public class Test {
private static class MyClass {
private final String name;
private MyClass(String name) {
this.name = name;
}
@Override
public String toString() {
return "MyClass{" +
"name='" + name + '\'' +
'}';
}
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
MyClass[] myClasses = new MyClass[] {
new MyClass("a"),
new MyClass("b")
};
System.out.println("" + myClasses);
System.out.println("" + Arrays.toString(myClasses));
}
}
first sout prints [LTest$MyClass;@7229724f, second one prints [MyClass{name='a'}, MyClass{name='b'}]
no, I just wrote that
if you really need to use components, the easiest way is probably to cancel the chat event, then loop over all players and send it through Player.Spigot#sendMessage(ChatMessageType, UUID, BaseComponent...)
young knoll
Pretty much the only way
twilit roost
Im using this load function before joining in players into the game, yet they get stuck on loading screen, any clues why?
tender shard
if you really need to use components, the easiest way is probably to cancel the ...
the UUID is the UUID of the sender of that message
tardy delta
because the + operator calls toString
calls String.valueOf π
twilit roost
tender shard
calls String.valueOf π
and that calls toString
twilit roost
im unloading those worlds btw
when I generate them, bcs they we're taking like 90% of my CPU.
I have 87 of them at once, so it isn't very perfomance effective
tardy delta
ill teach ir rawrr
twilit roost
but now it sticks to 7%, just players can't load the world
lags the crap of other players
thats why I pool those worlds at boot
thats why im instantly unloading them and loading them as I need them
thats what im trying to do
just players can't join into them.
Even tho it says the world has been loaded
yep
just after I tried to join the world, tp'd myself back via console
not when joining
I'm probably setting players gamemodes tho
lemme check
nope i'm not
but even with creative, nothing changes
and ik that its safe to tp there
worked before I tried to spare that CPU
tawdry parcel
TextCOmponent.toLegacyText turns a BaseComponent[]into a string, but not sure if...
no that's not working, do you have any other ideas?
tender shard
if you really need to use components, the easiest way is probably to cancel the ...
^
tawdry parcel
Ok thank you i'll try that
tawdry parcel
if you really need to use components, the easiest way is probably to cancel the ...
How?
It does the same if I use ```java
// Set Format
for (Player onlinePlayer : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()) {
onlinePlayer.sendMessage(player.getName() + ChatColor.GRAY + " Β» " + ChatColor.RESET + message);
}
Player.Spigot#sendMessage
tender shard
why didnt you use the method I mentioned?
more context
for example, this is ambiguous and won't compile:
public class MyClass {
public void doSomething(String string) {
System.out.println("Simple parameter");
}
public void doSomething(String... strings) {
System.out.println("varargs parameter");
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
new MyClass().doSomething(null);
}
}
does the main method call the varargs, or simple parameter method? nobody knows
young knoll
Because varargs can take a single string
tender shard
java isn't kotlin, you need to clarify it
young knoll
And so can the other method
tender shard
because it could be a boolean array I guess
someone might do update("someString", true, true, true, true)
is this now the String, Object... method, or the String, boolean, Object method?
worldly ingot
lol, this is part of the reason why Object varargs are sketchy
tardy delta
the moment you pass in a byte array where it expected an object varargs go brr
worldly ingot
I never really understood why I sometimes need @SafeVarargs
It's to do with reifiable types and heap pollution. Compiler just wants to make sure devs are being safe lol
It's a fancy SuppressWarnings for generic varargs
tender shard
yeah but I don't understand what heap pollution is supposed to be lol
tender shard
worldly ingot
i usually suppress any warning
That's mildly concerning
tardy delta
well any warning that makes sense
tender shard
you suppress all warnings that make sense?
tender shard
howis this always false? I annotated T[]with NotNull, not the array contents
tardy delta
you already threw an exception if the length is 0
tender shard
yeah but t[0] might be 0
twin mason
T @NotNull [] t I think
tender shard
I could do this
public static void main(String[] args) {
new Test<String>().doSomething(new String[] { null});
}
cmon dont code like that
tender shard
`T @NotNull [] t` I think
but that is exactly what I don't want
I want to allow null elements, I just don't want to allow passing null as the whole array
twin mason
the @NotNull would apply to the array in this case
tardy delta
(@NotNull T @NotNull [] t) :(
tender shard
that is the opposite of what I want
quaint mantle
`(@NotNull T @NotNull [] t)` :(
Cursed
tardy delta
shouldnt tell me
tender shard
basically I want to do this: tell java that
new Test<String>().doSomething(new String[] { null});is ALLOWED, butnew Test<String>().doSomething(null);is NOT ALLOWED
actually I don't need it, I'm just bored and tried whether it's possible
tender shard
which annotation is that? jetbrains?
twin mason
jetbrains, but I suppose any NotNull annotation will work
tender shard
weird that it works like this, I would assume the "Object" is to be annotated with NotNull instead of the [] thing
on the other hand, it makes sense, as the [] ARRAY is NotNull so that's where the annotaiton belongs to
so yeah this is what I was looking for:
public T doSomething(@Nullable T @NotNull [] t) {
Nulalble refers to the elements, NotNull refers to the array itself
I would have thought it must be the other way around, but thinking about that [] is the array itself, it makes sense
twin mason
yeah it's weird, the first @Nullable applies to both the array component and the method parameter
torn shuttle
man I sort of regret starting this
atomic swift
wait can a config have something like this
sound:
group: "e"
soundid:"e"
quiet ice
yeah it's weird, the first `@Nullable` applies to both the array component and t...
That is because jetbrains did a serious blunder when drafting the annotations api
How noone fixed that blunder is beyond me
Heck, even eclipse knows better
atomic swift
ok
quiet ice
Hm, I might want to use eclipse's annots in the future.
atomic swift
ik that
tardy delta
do you guys use gpg keys on github?
somehow i need to enter a key while i only configured it for my other gh acc lol
tender shard
I only use gpg on macOS
tardy delta
i picked a 78 char key and it looks like it doesnt accept it
quiet ice
do you guys use gpg keys on github?
I used to - but not anymore!
tardy delta
im kinda fucked then
quiet ice
These days SSH keys are used for signing (at least for me)
tender shard
is there actually any benefit in signing commits, given that you need write permission on github anyway?
tardy delta
ig im better with just removing that key cuz entering 78 characters every time goes brr
not like i can remember it so i gotta save it somewhere
quiet ice
is there actually any benefit in signing commits, given that you need write perm...
Well it is an unofficial third factor that it is actually you committing changes
tender shard
yeah sure, but I meant for repos that I own myself, anyway
I guess it's pretty useless then
quiet ice
But honestly it is a marginal difference outside of the verified badge
tardy delta
hmmh
quiet ice
ig im better with just removing that key cuz entering 78 characters every time g...
ordinarily gpg should remember the key
Or at least git will. Did you complete the setup of the key?
Unless you say that the passphrase is 78 chars long at which point I just have to shake my head
tardy delta
uhh not sure what completing the setup would mean
ig so
removed that key anyways, copying it every time doesnt really improve security β’οΈ
quiet ice
quiet ice
Though I must say if you are on windows you might get mixed results
remote swallow
i managed to set it up easily
tardy delta
its not about that
quiet ice
Hm. I think I had a similar case back then
quiet ice
But ever since openssh is used for entering teh passphrase it remembers the key
before there used to be something different that required me to copy the key as you mentioned. That is if my memory serves me right: That should be over two years ago
tardy delta
alr
quiet ice
It's been ages since I all set it up^^
tardy delta
is there a big difference between gpg and ssh keys anyways?
quiet ice
SSH are far more useful
shadow gazelle
Are there any examples for defining what a config should have with a class?
Not sure if YAML or Spigot have anything built in for it or if I'd need to do it another way
quiet ice
They allow SSH access and also allow to sign commits since Fall 2022
GPG is only really useful for sending signed or encrypted messages in a well-accepted manner
tardy delta
Are there any examples for defining what a config should have with a class?
"what a config should have with a class"?
shadow gazelle
Defining what should be in a yaml file
shadow gazelle
With an annotation or something instead of the mess that Spigot has for plugin yamls
torn shuttle
so if I'm doing a multimodule project for NMS I use reflections to select which module will be used, correct?
quiet ice
Ordinarily yes
eternal oxide
not really required
torn shuttle
I guess I'm sort of looking for the best approach here, or at least the one I'm likely to regret doing the least
quiet ice
Not truely but reflection is the easiest way to find the NMS version currently used
young knoll
public class NMSManager {
private static final String PACKAGE = "me.jishuna.blueprints.nms.";
private static NMSAdapter adapter;
public static void initAdapater(Plugin plugin) {
String version = getServerVersion();
try {
adapter = (NMSAdapter) Class.forName(PACKAGE + version + ".NMSAdapter").getDeclaredConstructor()
.newInstance();
plugin.getLogger().log(Level.INFO, "Supported server version detected: {0}", version);
} catch (ReflectiveOperationException e) {
plugin.getLogger().log(Level.SEVERE, "Server version \"{0}\" is unsupported! Please check for updates!",
version);
Bukkit.getPluginManager().disablePlugin(plugin);
}
}
public static NMSAdapter getAdapter() {
return adapter;
}
private static String getServerVersion() {
return Bukkit.getServer().getClass().getPackage().getName().split("\\.")[3];
}
}```Tis what I use atm
torn shuttle
ah a fellow blueprint package enjoyer
remote swallow
imagine needing to init it
toxic lion
Hi, im pretty new to spigot programming anyone have some idea's for plugins i can code to get practise?
quiet ice
Hi, im pretty new to spigot programming anyone have some idea's for plugins i ca...
Small questing plugin is what I started out with
toxic lion
like a gui with quests??
tardy delta
that smells advanced lol
quiet ice
like a gui with quests??
Nah, all done passively
torn shuttle
```java
public class NMSManager {
private static final String PACKAGE = "me....
so the adapter in this case acts like some sort of master class from which you will in some way access methods?
young knoll
Yeah quests are usually quite dynamic
quiet ice
I'm talking about like really small
remote swallow
interface
tardy delta
i probably did a homes plugin
remote swallow
with all the methods that require nms
toxic lion
I'm talking about like really small
what kind of quests?
quiet ice
And the quests were global and there is only a single quest at the same time
torn shuttle
my first plugin was implementing the just cause 2/3 flying system in mc
sick edge
Hi, I'm trying to use classes from one of my plugins in another one. Do I have to make a maven dependency or can I achieve it without it as I have it as a local jar (I've already set the plugin as a plugin dependency)
tardy delta
can probably use jitpack to pull from github, local jar would probably work too
quiet ice
what kind of quests?
Basically the entire server had to contribute towards working a certain goal (at the start it was just donating wheat) and then those that contributed got a reward
toxic lion
Basically the entire server had to contribute towards working a certain goal (at...
thats a very good idea.. thx
quiet ice
You can expand the idea of server-wise collaboration pretty far.
unfortunately that idea didn't grew popular for whatever reason
Heck, none of my plugin ideas gained any traction
toxic lion
You can expand the idea of server-wise collaboration pretty far.
unfortunately t...
well im not planning to release it anyways just for practise
tardy delta
marxism intensifies
torn shuttle
Heck, none of my plugin ideas gained any traction
how do you define popular
quiet ice
Used on more than 10 servers
(To be fair the cause of it failing to gain traction is due to me mandating paper - which meant that it was literally unfindable unless you knew the repository of the plugin)
torn shuttle
that really is not a very high bar lol
torn shuttle
I was going to say I think I could make that same plugin concept get 1k downloads in under a month
tardy delta
that calls himself bri'ish
remote swallow
i have 33 concurrent people so that counts to something
quiet ice
I mean I have a plugin with 45k combined downloads accumulated over 2.5 years ... but it is a fork of another plugin
remote swallow
name it
young knoll
I think Iβve hit near 100 servers when 1.18 dropped
Itβs much lower now since most of them have died
quiet ice
name it
Named it plenty of times already: EnchantmentsPlus (which is forked from Zenchantments)
remote swallow
I think Iβve hit near 100 servers when 1.18 dropped
you only had 84 cap according to the top
young knoll
Close enough
remote swallow
but this sasys you have had 203
torn shuttle
I'm sort of idling between 750 to 1k right now
remote swallow
Named it plenty of times already: EnchantmentsPlus (which is forked from Zenchan...
damn thats you?
quiet ice
damn thats you?
Yeah
remote swallow
who hurt you
young knoll
I wonder what plugin has the most active servers
remote swallow
rainbow slam fucking sucks
remote swallow
I wonder what plugin has the most active servers
spiogot probably
torn shuttle
Probably something like worldedit
essentialsx, wonder no more
young knoll
Spigot isnβt a plugin
torn shuttle
then worldedit
remote swallow
Tf is rainbow slam
a really fuckin annoying enchant in enchantment plus
young knoll
Does it make anyone nearby the slam gay?
torn shuttle
then vault, protocollib, worldrguard, placeholderapi, mv-core, essentialsxspawn, coreprotect
quiet ice
Also I fail to understand how downloads are made up. devbukkit is only responsible for 1/3 of downloads and still has 2/3 of running installs
remote swallow
Does it make anyone nearby the slam gay?
no it sends them flying
young knoll
Lame
quiet ice
rainbow slam fucking sucks
I never tweaked the default values of most enchantments after forking the plugin
young knoll
What does the fork do
quiet ice
You can disable it
remote swallow
no one needs it in the first place
quiet ice
What does the fork do
Just regular maintaince.
I.e. making sure it works after 1.15.0, a very large amount of performance fixes, a few exploits being patched and also a few extras here and there (such as colourable lasers)
young knoll
Laser beamz
quiet ice
Also trident and crossbow support - but I think that change is stuck on the repo unpushed for a good year now
young knoll
lol
quiet ice
With unpushed I mean unpushed to a release. It's still pushed to the public source repo
remote swallow
oh how do you keep track of where the download comes from
do you just have a field you change per site
young knoll
Robots in peoples walls
tardy delta
whoa
quiet ice
Yeah I had to be drunk or something while choosing the names of the classes and packages
tardy delta
sounds like me on a friday afternoon
quiet ice
Though to be fair on me I had like 1 1/2 years of experience when doing that change
quiet ice
Well I will NEVER change that
That would be like 20 hours of work at my normal working speed
quiet ice
But https://github.com/Geolykt/EnchantmentsPlus/blob/4xx/src/main/java/de/geolykt/enchantments_plus/Storage.java#L82 is the bigger hack here
young knoll
I think one of the spigot tutorials shows you both di and a static getter
?scheduling maybe
undone axleBOT
undone axleBOT
Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/
tardy delta
π
remote swallow
look at that snake cas