help-development

[quiet ice]

I didn't say that

[dry yacht]

.

Not using x in conjunction with y means using x without y in my brain

[quiet ice]

"Not using X with Y" means not using X at all

Not not using Y

[dry yacht]

:-:

[smoky oak]

give up mate

getting a straight answer from geol thats not code related is impossible

[dry yacht]

I'm sorry for starting this, xDD. I misinterpreted the order of operations, as I wasn't thinking mathematically, my brain feels like a mashed potato today.

[dry yacht]

Already did.

Had no idea you were that specific with your statements, xD

[quiet ice]

To be fair most of this is caused by the english language not using commas aggressively

[dry yacht]

Let's just settle on: (not using <li>) in conjunction with ol. xDD

I had no idea there were people out there who would do that, which is why I completely discarded this case of interpreting your sentence.

[tender shard]

English is so unprecise

Compared to eg german or latin at least

[river oracle]

english is amazingb

[quiet ice]

It actually was intended to be "not using <li>, in conjuction with <ol>"

[tender shard]

The smell of diesel is amazing too

[smoky oak]

wtf

how in the world is that explicit

whoevers responsible for clyde ur bots broken

[dry yacht]

I'm wondering how that sentence would be more precise in the german language, xD.

[quiet ice]

That is anti-german propaganda

[smoky oak]

its still correct

[river oracle]

why is there so many "the"s in german

[quiet ice]

Implicitly, it is false

[tender shard]

„Dem“ can also be „whom“ in english

[smoky oak]

oh right alex is german

[tender shard]

It depends on the case of a word

And the gender

And singular/plural

[river oracle]

this just reminds me of trying to learn the difference between por and para in spanish and it makes my brain hurt

[smoky oak]

iirc finnish is worse with like 13 cases

[tender shard]

Para is like ablative in latin, por is dative and accusative

[tender shard]

I think its icelandic that has so many cases but i might be wrong

[river oracle]

that'd help a lot if I knew any latin whatsoever

[tender shard]

Latin got 6 cases but one is basically useless

[quiet ice]

It also implicitly states that german has no plural form - but it does. Singular forms are der (masculine), die (feminine), das (neutral), where as the pular form is die (regardless of grammatical gender)

[tender shard]

(Vocative)

[river oracle]

why do you know any latin

[tender shard]

Unless its not nomative lol

It could also be „den“ or whatever

[tender shard]

I learnt that in school from grade 6 to 12

[smoky oak]

one of the possible tetrary languages in the german school system iirc

[quiet ice]

Yeah but the de-jure default is nomative

[tender shard]

The alternative would have been french - ofc i chose latin

[quiet ice]

Oh, why not spanish?

[smoky oak]

i believe they also have like spanish, greek and french

[river oracle]

tf no english as a tetrary language

that is so strange

[quiet ice]

Many people picked latin at my school - almost everyone rued it

[tender shard]

Im grade 6 we had to choose latin or french. Spanish, italian, greek etc was only a possible choice for grade 8+

[smoky oak]

well germany goes 'require german 1-10, english 4-8, one of 2 choices third'

[river oracle]

I find it confusing that they prioritize a dead language over something like Spanish etc

[smoky oak]

had a friend who told me they had greek

ye olde greek btw

[tender shard]

When you know latin, learning other similar languages is totally easy. Also you need quite a bunch of latin in law (and medicine too i guess)

[quiet ice]

german is 1 - 13 and so is english. Only tertiary language is at least 4 years

[dry yacht]

You're not dead if many languages inherit from you, xD

[tender shard]

My english classes started in grade 3, and the year before me started with english in grade 5

[quiet ice]

Ah right lol

[smoky oak]

couldve sworn it started in grade 4

[river oracle]

dead just means no one speaks latin

[quiet ice]

English classes start with grade 3

[tender shard]

It depends on the country i guess. My class in NRW was the first to start in grade 3

[smoky oak]

cough doctors cough

[quiet ice]

Although to be fair it only really starts at grade 5. Grade 3 & 4 english is nonsense

[tender shard]

„I like pizza. Yummy yummy“

But hey, gotta start somewhere lol

[river oracle]

I started spanish in 2nd grade american schools must just be shit at teaching language

[quiet ice]

It's even worse: "Apple.", "Pencil.", "Book."

[tender shard]

I mean, in latin we also didnt start off with ACI Constructions or plusquamperfekt lol

[smoky oak]

i mean

better than how they started latin with us

'heres a speech. translate.'

wtf

[tardy delta]

thats the reason i failed my german exam fr

[quiet ice]

actually, apparently you don't need to know latin to be in the medical field

[tardy delta]

well actually i got 49.x% and they gave me 50

[river oracle]

why would you that is the most random requirement xD

[quiet ice]

You do need to know latin if you want to be a history prof in german though

[river oracle]

I can't imagine my doctor needing to know latin

[tender shard]

„Quintus in hortus est. caecilia clamat: „quinte!“

Lol

[smoky oak]

say what now

like

why

[lost matrix]

Heiliges Römisches Reich

[smoky oak]

latin started dying out in like 16th 17th century

also you dont need to speak english to teach the history of the english empire i dont think?!

why would you need to know the language spoken to teach history about that thing

[quiet ice]

Well you only need to have your "latinitium" (or however it is written out), which is basically a blank sheet of paper proofing that you did learn latin at some point.

[tender shard]

At least in law, many basic rules are still in latin. In dubio pro reo, actio libera in causa, etc etc

[lost matrix]

Holy Roman Empire was the predecessor of the first german empire.

[quiet ice]

Whether you still know it is something else entirely

[smoky oak]

i know that latin is used in church

[tender shard]

Nullam poene sine leges… i could go on

[smoky oak]

dont

[tender shard]

Ok

[quiet ice]

Well used to - outside of high-ranking official positions few ought to know it

[lost matrix]

Sad that we didnt really learn about the history before Around 1890.
It was 1 year WWI and from then on only the horrible things we did in WWII with
the following economic miracle, cold war until the fall of the berlin wall.
Everything before that is not really tought.

[quiet ice]

Which country?

Ah you're german iirc.

[smoky oak]

a lot of this chat is german

[smoky oak]

for some reason

[quiet ice]

A bit strange though, usually we exclude everything happening past 1945

[smoky oak]

i mean

60 years of not doing much

hooray?

whats there to teach besides the stupidity of russia

[quiet ice]

I mean the allies did some messed up stuff too

[lost matrix]

I think it we had 1 year 1900 - 1918 then a ton of years 1933-45 and maybe one year for 1945-1980

[tender shard]

I didnt do anything in ww2 😦

[smoky oak]

if you wouldve your profile picture wouldnt have that much color

[hazy parrot]

my country had quite an history in 90's, so we teach about that alot 😄

[tender shard]

Right, the world was black and white back then

[lost matrix]

Hm who had a lot of stuff going on in the 90s? Middle east mainly

[hazy parrot]

Balkans

[lost matrix]

Ah... Yes

Forgot the iron curtain

[smoky oak]

oooh that brings me back

we did like a school project and in walks this middle aged lady

everything about her was grayscale

like everything everything

clothes, make up eyes

and i was just looking at her confused if my eyes were working or not

[tender shard]

Lol

[tawny bear]

Hey everyone,
Has anyone every tried to spawn a command block with a command in it? I tried but the command is not actually updated in-game. Here is the code snippet:

Block block = Bukkit.getWorld(world).getBlockAt(100, 100, 100);
block.setType(XMaterial.COMMAND_BLOCK.parseMaterial());
CommandBlock commandBlock = (CommandBlock) block.getState();
commandBlock.setCommand(command.toString());

The block spawns without the command in it, and I guess the block state is not linked but I don't see how I can set the state on that block again

[smoky oak]

block.setBlockState(commandBlock) or smth?

idk

[tender shard]

My curtains are certified by some iso standard but not made from iron

[eternal oxide]

commandBlock.update()

[smoky oak]

you do audio stuff?

[tender shard]

Yeah but when i got the curtains i didnt knew anything about this

[tawny bear]

Thanks! Wasn't aware of that

[tender shard]

I only discovered this 10 minutes ago

[quiet ice]

Akustik
I call this a scam

[smoky oak]

unfortunately it isnt

[tender shard]

Idk check it yourself https://www.creationbaumann.com/de/Akustikstoffe-fuer-Akustik-und-Aesthetik-in-Harmonie-18670.html maybe its bullshit, i dont know lol

[smoky oak]

germany is that one land with far too much paperwork

you get a certificate for everything and also need one for doing anything

[quiet ice]

... which is why it is easier to scam people than to do real business

[quiet ice]

Considering it is hard to verify these so called standards (It is beyond me how proprietary standards can be considered as standards) I cannot say much

However the summaries of these standards do match up with each other and the rest of the document, so it cannot be outright considered to be a definite scam

[tender shard]

I just ordered some dude to my house, me showed some materials, i chose some that looked nice, then 6 weeks later he brought the finished curtains. He didnt mention this „acoustic stuff“ even once lol

[eager jacinth]

Hello everyone! I have a question about databases. Is it a good idea to load users from a database (on plugin start-up) if I only have 20-30 of them there? Or is it better to load them on login and delete them on disconnect?

[tender shard]

If its only 20-30, id just load everything on startup lol

[quiet ice]

Yeah if it isn't part of the mainstream marketing then I assume this site only exists for those that really care and thus is likely to not be bullshit

[smoky oak]

id do login

[tender shard]

Well that company exists since 1886 or so, i doubt they are only bullshitting. But who knows

[smoky oak]

its germany, they're serious

[tender shard]

I also dont really care

[quiet ice]

Wirecard???

[tender shard]

The curtains look nice

[quiet ice]

Wirecard completely showed that germany is completely incompetent at being serious

[tender shard]

We got this EZNick dude arrested though right?

[quiet ice]

Never heard of them.

[tender shard]

Spigot plugin with a crypto miner or sth similar

I dont remember it 100%

About a year ago

[quiet ice]

If it is anything below a few dozen megs, just keep everything in memory and regularly flush the contents to disk

[smoky oak]

also on unload

[quiet ice]

that is obvious, so was omitted

[smoky oak]

people are stupid me included

[tardy delta]

ig that works lol, i probably want ||

[eager jacinth]

okay, thanks!

[tardy delta]

damn discord made a bigger images preview

[tender shard]

they did?

where

[tardy delta]

i better hope thats right

[tardy delta]

dont you have this stuff?

[lost matrix]

No? Where is that from?

[smoky oak]

no

we have to click the message

[tardy delta]

new update ig

[smoky oak]

ur a brony?

[tender shard]

no?

why

[dry yacht]

imageception, lol

[tardy delta]

images also fit next to e/o

lemme paste smth

[tender shard]

that's an lgbtq discord lol

unicornia

[smoky oak]

i have so many questions about that screenshot lol

[smoky oak]

how the fuck

[tardy delta]

ahaha

[lost matrix]

No they are

[tender shard]

for me it's next to each other

[smoky oak]

imma reload

[chrome beacon]

Same

[tardy delta]

i better dont spam this channel with cats

[smoky oak]

why not

[tender shard]

why not? it's basically general

no questions = this is general

[tardy delta]

heehee

[smoky oak]

oh i have a good one

1sec

[tardy delta]

uhh anyways, are there other boolean operators than or, and, xor and not?

[tardy delta]

got these ones already

lmao

[tender shard]

cit cat

[smoky oak]

maybe the logical leadsto

like the thing with the t f t t table

[tardy delta]

the what table

:o

xnor sounds goofy lol

[dry yacht]

Sir, this is help-development (lol)

[tender shard]

only if someone asked a question

[dry yacht]

Oh, I thought general was general and help-development was not general

[smoky oak]

md5 isnt online

[tender shard]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-phyllis-smith-phyllis-vance-you-have-a-lot-to-learn-a-lot-to-learn-gif-4733502

[dry yacht]

Bc somebody once got agitated, xD

[tender shard]

"Who's Bob Vance"?

[lost matrix]

You wouldnt know if he was. Old man is always invis.

[tardy delta]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-abe-simpson-milhouse-old-man-is-talking-gif-16954497

[tender shard]

in all other episodes they ran away when grandpa starts talking lol

[tardy delta]

its years ago since i watched it

im more into family guy now

[tender shard]

im watching the simpsons right now

the episode where homer becomes a krusty imitator

[tardy delta]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-happy-dance-peter-griffin-oh-yeah-thats-right-gif-18850074

[lost matrix]

Dropped simpsons years ago. I like Family guy but nothing beats South Park.
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/02/640/320/Screenshot-133.png?ve=1&tl=1

[tardy delta]

damn chatgpt very useful

i might aswell allow 1 == 2 as valid syntax

and add boolean operators

[lost matrix]

Yes

This is done with custom fonts for example

Im not sure i understand that sentence...

[tardy delta]

you become chinese 🤡

[lost matrix]

9x<>
What does that even mean?

Why do you have a height of 200?

For 16x16 images the font should look like this

Then you need to play around with the properties

[visual lodge]

Hello dev community
I found this plugin called RasberryJuice thats basically an API that connects Python to your spigot server and you can do basic cool tingz, may've heard of it
but like the latest version that i could find of it was 1.16.5 which I cant apply it to my own server (thats on 1.19)
Any idea what i can do? Does anyone know any similar plugin thats on 1.19 or is there a way to somehow tweak the plugin file so that its recognized as 1.19?

[tender shard]

looking at the source code, it should work fine using 1.19

however why not just use java? that'd be so much easier

[tardy delta]

average python enjoyer

[tender shard]

beautiful

[tardy delta]

lol

[remote swallow]

sus

[tardy delta]

imagine not having it like this

[tender shard]

nah it's supposed to look like this

[tardy delta]

macos 🥺

check your pms

[hushed spindle]

💅

does anyone elses intellij like to have a stroke and hit 100% cpu usage in the matter of seconds because you double clicked something to select it

[tender shard]

on windows, this indeed does happen to me like once a week

on mac this never happened

just like 2-3 hours ago it crashed because of this

[tardy delta]

nah only minecraft makes my cpu hit 100%

[tender shard]

well not sure whether it was because of selecting sth, I just tried to click somewhere to select sth and then "IJ has stopped responding..."

[hushed spindle]

i gotta shut it down thru task manager or my fans are gonna go zoom

[tardy delta]

fans go zoom zoom

[hushed spindle]

i cant catch my pc once it starts taking off

it becomes like an aircraft

[tender shard]

oh and this does only seem to happen when having the shitty "minecraft development" plugin enabled

[hushed spindle]

oh that might be it

[tender shard]

without it, this never happened to me

[hushed spindle]

it only really started happening to me about a month ago

maybe i can just use an older version and itll be ight

[tender shard]

do you actually need that plugin? I mean, it doesnt even do anything for spigot

(except displaying chat colors)

[hushed spindle]

its nice when making a new project and you're lazy

but once you got it going you dont need it

[tender shard]

I just use my own maven archetype for this https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/Spigot-Plugin-Generator

here's the archetype and its features: https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/spigot-plugin-archetype

the first link is just a GUI for it

[hushed spindle]

oh thats sick

[tender shard]

I made that to avoid having to copy/paste the same and the same dependency information every time again (ACF, MockBukkit. etc bla bla)

[hushed spindle]

very nice

think ill be using that for sure

[tender shard]

:3

if you're missing a dependency that you regularly use, you can just pull request it to the archetype repo, the GUI automatically updates itself

[lost matrix]

McDev plugin for the poor?

[tender shard]

for the poor? it can do way more

(for spigot, at least)

the mc dev plugin just creates the same lame pom everytime

cannot remap, or create an exportToServer profile, doesnt allow to include any other dependencies, etc

[lost matrix]

[mighty pier]

how check if string contains letters not from ascii table

[tender shard]

Just like always

[lost matrix]

Same as you would check with letters from the ascii table

[tender shard]

Theres nothing special about not-ascii

[hushed spindle]

boolean isAscii = CharMatcher.ascii().matchesAllOf(someString);

if you wanna test an entire string for ascii only

[mighty pier]

ok

[hushed spindle]

from com.google.guava

[tender shard]

Oh thats what you meant

[mighty pier]

guava caching

[dry yacht]

That actually looks very interesting on first glance, gotta check it out later myself too, :D

[hushed spindle]

this is jeff media we talking about here

only bangers

i saw that custom block data stuff of his and i shat myself

so very useful

[tender shard]

Haha thanks

Now i also gotta advertise morepdc

[smoky oak]

feels like alex is the only one here writing javadoc

[tender shard]

?morepdc

[undone axle]

You can create custom persistent data types on your own, or use one of the many libraries available which have implemented those which match your needs. Learn about more persistent data types here: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/more-persistent-data-types-collections-maps-and-arrays-for-pdc.520677/

[tender shard]

Sometimes i am bored

[lost matrix]

Wait let me in on the hype... But i always forget my commands

?workdistro

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-on-workload-distribution-or-how-to-handle-heavy-splittable-tasks.409003/

[smoky oak]

on that topic

does anyone know what asyncworldeditinjector does

[mighty pier]

poll

[tender shard]

wasn't that the way AWE used to work before it was a standalone plugin?

maybe I'm confusing it with someone totally different

maybe, probably, ...

[smoky oak]

well its from a 1.8 server dump

soo

maybe

[tender shard]

This plugin has only one function: eliminate the lag caused by the WorldEdit! This is done by replacing the WorldEdits session with an special asynchronous one.

so yeah that's what it does

[sterile token]

Is the bungeecord-proxy the equipvalent of importing the full core?

Because maven is not currently resolving it

[tender shard]

bungeecord is not on the normal spigot repo

it's on the sonatype repo

https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/

[sterile token]

oh right

That why 🤦‍♂️

[tender shard]

you normally need to import bungeecord-api, not bungeecord-proxy

[sterile token]

I need the proxy caused im doing weird things related to packets, which are basically inside the "master module"

[tender shard]

"bungeecord-proxy vs bungeecord-api" is basically like "spigot vs spigot-api"

[sterile token]

Yeah

What i have said

spigot-api doesnt contain packet related and in bungeecord happen the same

[tender shard]

yeah then you probably need bungeecore-proxy, yeah

[sterile token]

yes, but so far maven was founding it that why i came here haha

That is something that i dont like about third party, why dont they put all in same self hosting

Instead of making us dev to add thousans of different repo, for dependencies made by the same author/company, its something really clown. But so far they are not my libraries i dont care about how they do it

[tender shard]

well bungeecord originally was developed by some private server IIRC; they probably already used that repo before spigot took over

if at all, you should complain why not everything's on maven central

[sterile token]

oh wait md5 didnt do the proxy? I thought he did the proxy when he started with Spigot

I didnt know they where different authors

[cunning canopy]

It seems intellij aint a big fan of this: ```java
meta.displayName(ChatColor.YELLOW + "" + ChatColor.BOLD + "Lightning Stick");

[sterile token]

new TextComponent("your colored text here")

[tender shard]

SpigotMC says "BungeeCord is a useful software written in-house by the team at SpigotMC." but the bungee pom.xml says "Proxy component of the Elastic Portal Suite" lol

so no clue

maybe md did write it, i dont know

[cunning canopy]

net.kyori?

[sterile token]

Please dont tell me you are using paper on Spigot discord 💀

[lost matrix]

Component.text("...")

[tender shard]

yo uare using paper API

[sterile token]

Agree, paper have they own discord for support

[tender shard]

the proper spigot method is setDisplayName(String)

it's whereami

verano

[sterile token]

right i alays writte it wrongly

Yeah mfalex, the bungee description are diff i just realize that

[cunning canopy]

Welp. Sorry. It's a fork so alot of stuff is pretty much the same. Much bigger community here.

[sterile token]

Spigot != Paper, so spigot comm != shity paper comm

[smoky oak]

i just build my shit for spigot

so it runs on paper too

[tender shard]

paper always wants adventure components everywhere

the docs for adventure are here: https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/

if you see any setters without "set" in the name, it's a paper method

spigot doesn't use weird "fluent" names

[smoky oak]

wait spigot has method to its madness?

since when?

[sterile token]

LMAo i read so fast that i read "verano dont use weird fluent names" hahahaha

[cunning canopy]

Is paper plugins faster then spigot plugins?

[sterile token]

Paper has his own comm tho, maybe they can help you with paper related

[smoky oak]

its usually the same speed

paper is just built with anti cheat in mind

[cunning canopy]

Alright, I guess I will just move back to spigot then

[smoky oak]

imo its better to build for spigot

so it also runs on paper

[sterile token]

Yes please!

[tender shard]

in 99% of cases, you wanna write your plugins for spigot, then they work on both. if you only use paper api, chances are high your plugin will not work at all on spigot

I always code for spigot, use spigot.jar to test my plugins, but for actual servers I use paper .jar

[cunning canopy]

Can I just change the gradle dependency or do I need to make a whole new project?

[tender shard]

you can just change the dependency

however

[sterile token]

You can jut change dependency, and update your code replacing paper methods with Spigot ones

[tender shard]

if you already used paper methods, you will now get compile errors you gotta fix

for example: PersistentDataContainer.has(NamespacedKey) is a paper only method

[cunning canopy]

I think most of my stuff is spigot, but I am using paperweight and nms. Can I till just change the dependency?

[tender shard]

well if you use paperweight for NMS, you cannot just go back to spigot on gradle

[cunning canopy]

I havent actually implemented any nms stuff yet though

[tender shard]

for remapped NMS on spigot, there's only an official maven way to do

[tender shard]

ah okay well then no problem

then just get rid of the paperweight stuff and use "spigot" or "spigot-api" as dependency

(usually, you want to use modules for your NMS stuff anyway, then you could just use paperweight in the submodules, but keep the "core" module to spigot-api)

[cunning canopy]

ah paperweight has a lot of plugins and weird stuff in the gradle file so I think it will be faster for me to just create a new project

[regal scaffold]

Does API-version mean the minimum version required? Or a list of all versions

[tender shard]

Hm probably, yeah

[tender shard]

Minimum

[regal scaffold]

ty

[smoky oak]

this is only if youre using pure paper API tho

NMS often needs very specific versions

[tender shard]

Hm?

We are talking about plugin.yml

[cunning canopy]

What is groupid? Is it my domain?

[smoky oak]

*spigot

im dumb

i mean spigot

[regal scaffold]

The specific version stuff goes inside the plugin not in plugin.yml

[tender shard]

Its your identifier

[regal scaffold]

Like the nms logic and such

[remote swallow]

group id would be ur domain backwards or me.yourname if you dont have one

[tender shard]

If you own a domain, use it in reverse

Otherwise, me.yourusername or whatever

[cunning canopy]

can I use io.github.miklath?

[tender shard]

Yes

[cunning canopy]

thanks

[tender shard]

Technically you can use almost anything

It just should be sth unique to you

[smoky oak]

im just using the github thing

problem solved

[tawny remnant]

Hello. I would like to ask you, how I can make an item in my plugin unplacable. Thank you.

[tender shard]

Apply a custom pdc tag to it, then in BlockPlaceEvent, check if the item has this tag

[smoky oak]

smack something unique to it, pdc, lore, an enchantment

check on placement if it has it

if yes cancel

[cunning canopy]

Does everyone in the spigot community use maven

[tawny remnant]

Thank you dear man

[tender shard]

No

[smoky oak]

most people use either maven or gradle

but not all

[tender shard]

I feel like roughly 50% use maven, 30% gradle and 20% nothing lol

[cunning canopy]

For spigot or all of java?

[tender shard]

Probably both lol

[twilit roost]

Hey! I just found some interesting bug.
Java can't run replaceAll when String contains $
I tried running my command, which sends message to player with $ as message.
I get this error:
https://paste.md-5.net/yebojadoho.bash

Pointing towards first .replaceAll mention in my code

[cunning canopy]

Isnt there like a lot of preformance benefits to gradle?

[tender shard]

replaceAll uses regex

Just use replace

It also replaces „all“ occurences but it uses plain strings, not regex

[twilit roost]

will it still replace all mentions of pattern given?

[tender shard]

Yes

[twilit roost]

oh great
tysm

[tender shard]

replaceAll is a poor name

It should be replaceAllRegex

[twilit roost]

or replaceRegex

[tender shard]

And replaceFirst should be replaceFirstRegex

[twilit roost]

would make a lot more sense

[sterile token]

yeah

Java designed of some things is pathethic

[tender shard]

„aaa“.replace(„a“,“b“) will be „bbb“

[sterile token]

hee? How?

[tender shard]

Hee?

Because it replaces a with b?

What else would it result into

[sterile token]

Hmnn

shouldnt just be: String#replace("pattern", "value") ?

[tender shard]

Its an instance method, not static

[sterile token]

ik

[tender shard]

If it would be String.replace(…), then what would be the string you call it on?

[sterile token]

because you sent something weird

Maybe my discord is broken and doesnt format it properly

[tender shard]

"Hello Verano".replace("Verano", "mfnalex")

Thatll result in „Hello mfnalex“

[sterile token]

oh you are using wrong "

that why i didnt udnerstand

[tender shard]

Yeah im on the phone

It automatically does it

[sterile token]

ohh my bad

[tall dragon]

frigging phones

[sterile token]

sorry for losting ur time

[tender shard]

„This is how quotes work in german“

[cunning canopy]

Command for building maven plugin from terminal?

[sterile token]

mvn package or mvn clean package - Dpeends what you are doing

[tender shard]

mvn archetype:generate

But i got sth better for you

[tall dragon]

is it an android?

[tender shard]

https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/Spigot-Plugin-Generator

[cunning canopy]

Im listening

[tender shard]

Oh wait thats just the gui

[tall dragon]

idk if you'll have it too but i can switch between keyboard languages when holding the spacebar. to my own and english.

[tender shard]

Check the link in the readme of the link i sent

[tender shard]

Iphone

[cunning canopy]

Oh no. I was talking about building artifacts

[sterile token]

Why dont u just use IJ interface for creating the maven project

[sterile token]

mvn package or mvn clean package

[tender shard]

mvn package

[cunning canopy]

Sounds like you two disagree

[tender shard]

Package = compile and package into a jar

[sterile token]

Isnt what i told u form the start?

[cunning canopy]

I guess it was

[tender shard]

clean package = clear caches, then package

You should run „mvn clean package“ when you changed your pom or resource files

Otherwise if you only changed code, normal „mvn package“ is enough

[tall dragon]

i always do mvn clean package by default tbh

or install if i want to use it

[cunning canopy]

I always make batch files for my projects

[tender shard]

Yeah cant hurt except that with clean, it ofc takes way longer for multi module or large projects

[tall dragon]

does it?

[cunning canopy]

building pushing to the server and making the server restart automatically

[tender shard]

Sure, clean removes everything that was cached

[tall dragon]

i actually am working on quite the multi module project

gotta test that

[sterile token]

Does IJ have an option for having global configs sets for applications? So then i dont need to make mc server configuration on every IJ project

[tall dragon]

eh without clean it took roughly 10 seconds. with it it took 15

[regal scaffold]

https://paste.md-5.net/xewexenuve.bash

[tall dragon]

so you are correct it seems 😮

[regal scaffold]

Why would Papi return null if it's set as a soft-depend

Oh wait I have my answer already

[sterile token]

Look your code carefully before asking, take your time its not a rage*

[tender shard]

So with clean its 50% slower

[tall dragon]

aperantly so

did not know that was such a big dif

[tender shard]

Jefflib is roughly 1:30 with clean and 30 seconds without

[tall dragon]

but i used to sometimes run into very odd issues when i did not clean

[tender shard]

Yeah when you change the pom or resources, you should always run clean

[tall dragon]

i don't have enough braincells to remember that though

[tender shard]

Sure

[tender shard]

Do you have PAPI installed?

If yes: you shaded it into your plugin

Dont do that

[sterile token]

Can i see how?

[regal scaffold]

Thanks alex

[sterile token]

I never find how to sync spigot server with IJ only time for every IJ project

Because actually i havent find a way to dont configure the spigot server and IJ when i change from one IJ poroject to another

[tender shard]

Which settings do you mean btw?

[sterile token]

The application jars which allow you link custom jars into IJ, which then are runned directly from IJ

Do i explain?

[tender shard]

Uughm no clue what you mean

You mean the build configuration?

[sterile token]

1m i will take a picture

That thing for being specific, i want to know if there is a way for setting that globally so i dont need to configure it on every IJ project

[tender shard]

Ah yeah you can definitely store that globally, but tbh no clue how, im in the bathtub lol

[sterile token]

oh right

No problem

[tender shard]

https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/206226529-Run-Configuration-across-projects-

[flat yacht]

hello. i want to do simple teleport plugin. when player stays on certain block from config it teleports him to a location and it have to work reverse too. i got many errors on player move event

pls help

[hazy parrot]

Show full stack trace pls

[tawdry echo]

^

[tawdry echo]

null bro

[hazy parrot]

Line 23 is throwing it

[tawdry echo]

plugin is null

use depency injection

[hazy parrot]

well lmao

you didnt init plugin variable

you just declared it

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[hazy parrot]

or use static getter

[tawdry echo]

di>

[flat yacht]

alr thanks

[tender shard]

reason?

[hazy parrot]

i bet there is no reason

[tender shard]

both have their advantages

I mean, for actual PROPER dependency injection, one would pass the location to the listener, instead of the plugin instance

if you just throw your plugin instance into everything, you could as well just directly use MyMainClass.getInstance()

DI means to pass in the required dependencies, and not just your main instance all the time

[cunning canopy]

Does maven delete the target folder for every build?

[tender shard]

no

thats what clean is for

[cunning canopy]

I want to have a git repo inside target folder. Does that mean I can never use clean?

[hazy parrot]

why would you have git repo inside of target folder

[onyx fjord]

^

[hazy parrot]

seems like you are doing smth wrong tbh

[cunning canopy]

so I can push jars to my server?

[hazy parrot]

gh releases

[cunning canopy]

and no I wont build on the server

[onyx fjord]

what repo do u have in your target folder

[cunning canopy]

a repo connected to my server

that automatically pulls new jar files

[tender shard]

why don't you use the maven-publish-plugin

to publish it to some repo

[cunning canopy]

please elaborate

[tender shard]

do you have a webserver or anything?

mvn publish will upload your stuff to a repository, e.g. nexus. but it can also just be some FTP(S) server or anything

https://hub.jeff-media.com/nexus/#browse/browse:jeff-media-public

[cunning canopy]

any way to use git and github?

[tender shard]

ofc but I gotta go now

[cunning canopy]

alright thanks

[hazy parrot]

if ur using gh, you can utilize gh workflow

or actions, however they are called

which will for example build plugin on every pull request and upload it via (s)ftp

[cunning canopy]

aha thanks

Will it build on my machine or cloud?

[hazy parrot]

on cloud

[cunning canopy]

Wow thats fantastic!

Free?

[hazy parrot]

https://github.com/features/actions

[hazy parrot]

well, not fully,

but you have some amount of free hours

[eager jacinth]

Yo guys. This may seem like a very strange question, but anyway. Should I cache null-values when working with a database? 🤔

[quaint mantle]

Im not sure what I have done here, Im just switching from Eclipse to IntelliJ, and its chiming at me in console:

17.02 21:36:56 [Server] [INFO] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.a113.discordtest.Main

Any advice would be wonderful

[delicate lynx]

1. how are you compiling your plugin
2. folder structure should be <root of project>/src/main/java/<your package>

[desert tinsel]

Does anyone know how can I make a plugin that everytime when you have more than 9 iron ore, transform 9 of them into an iron block (just an example). I don't think listening for BlockBreakEvent will be the best solution, thanks.

[remote swallow]

listening to block break event is probably the better option imo

[desert tinsel]

But when there are 100 players mining together?

[remote swallow]

check the block they mine

if its iron ore theres your answer

[desert tinsel]

Yes but this was an example, for a mining server every block needs to be calculated

[dry yacht]

Tbh, sounds like deploying locally through scp, for example, would be more than enough. You built the jar, so you might as well deploy it.

[cunning canopy]

Never hurts to learn a new tech skills used in enterprises

[dry yacht]

If you're doing it to learn something new it's great, otherwise it's just a complete overkill. Only because it's an enterprise doesn't mean that you have to look up to them and take every action they perform as the ultimate solution.

[hazy parrot]

what is the best way to get current cpu usage ?

[cunning canopy]

Why is it overkill though? I love automation

[cunning canopy]

on linux its probably top

[hazy parrot]

programically

[cunning canopy]

oh

[dry yacht]

You can still automate scp, but there's no need to spin up a remote vm to build your stuff if you already build locally (to check if it compiles, or to run tests).

[dry yacht]

Well, what language are we talking about? Java?

[worldly ingot]

CPU stuff in Java is annoying

[hazy parrot]

yap

[cunning canopy]

I dont test ony a local server I test on production 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎 (speaking of following good practices lol)

[worldly ingot]

It's not really something the JVM knows about so to speak. It has to call specifically to some implementation details

You can copy/paste code from here, works fine https://stackoverflow.com/a/47199/6327919

Reason it uses reflection is because there are different implementations of the OS depending on whether or not you're on OSX or Windows

[hazy parrot]

well, i didn't think you would need to use reflection for it, but thanks 👍

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, the details of it are hidden behind unexposed methods for some reason

See https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/19/docs/api/jdk.management/com/sun/management/OperatingSystemMXBean.html

(note that's an internal class)

[dry yacht]

You can of course go the route of setting up GH actions, it will be a great learning experience for you, don't get me wrong. I don't want to discourage you from doing so. But the scp version most definitely gives you more for the time you have to invest. You can whip that up in a few minutes, while actions will take a bit for you to fully understand them and actually implement it properly.

If you're working on it alone, there's no need to test and deploy centrally. I'm just a big fan of letting the system grow with the demands in a natural fashion, instead of going all out on the beginning already.

[cunning canopy]

What is scp?

[dry yacht]

Remote copy over the secure shell (ssh). It's basically from host and path to host and path.

[cunning canopy]

so basically wget and curl?

[dry yacht]

It's a command that should be available on all operating systems nowadays.

[dry yacht]

Uhm... well, if you like to imagine it that way, sure! xD

[cunning canopy]

ah. can it be automated?

[dry yacht]

You need to just make maven run a shell script after finishing the package phase, which then contains the invocation of that command. I'd recommend storing host, username and password in environment variables in a separate file which you add to .gitignore and source at the beginning of that script.

Just wanted to give you another simpler solution, you can research both and make up your mind afterwards, of course.

[cunning canopy]

Will a batch file that builds then runs scp work the same?

[dry yacht]

Well, is your current build system a batch-file?

[cunning canopy]

almost...

call mvn clean package
scp stuff here

[dry yacht]

"Write once, run everywhere", :((. The last resort would probably be to download an os-specific binary which can extract these metrics in userland, invoke it over a subprocess and extract the required information, as sad as that sounds.

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, like I said, it's not great lol. It's just the only way to get that information in the stdlib

[dry yacht]

Oh yeah, sure, that would work! mvn clean package blocks until the jar is built, then you could just invoke scp on the target folder's jar file. If you add that batch file to .gitignore, you might as well hard-code the credentials. No idea how you can run scp on windows tho, I haven't used that OS for many years.

[cunning canopy]

normally you would use an enviroment variable right?

[dry yacht]

Yep, and I really don't get why that's the case. The JVM obviously has to know these metrics, yet it still fails to provide them. Great answer tho, as it seems to work out in most cases and doesn't involve the hackery I mentioned.

[quiet ice]

Doesn't minecraft shade in a library that supports such features?

[dry yacht]

Yeah, I'd just have a script like the following:

DEPLOY_USERNAME=root
DEPLOY_PASSWORD=12345
DEPLOY_HOST=192.168.1.128
DEPLOY_PATH=/home/minecraft/server/plugins

Then source that right before invoking scp and use those variables.

[worldly ingot]

If it does, it wouldn't be on the server

[quiet ice]

OSHI should be able to get such functionalities

[worldly ingot]

Client only for the F3 menu

[cunning canopy]

What about invoking something like top from java?

[worldly ingot]

I'd be hesitant lol

[quiet ice]

I'd not invoke top

[dry yacht]

Then you'd need to know that top is installed, and you're on linux, xD.

[quiet ice]

Especially since top is not meant to be parsable

[cunning canopy]

Oh. I forget that people are developing plugins that they are distrubuting.

[dry yacht]

so me, hahaha

[cunning canopy]

You could probably make an api in another language though that you could easily interact with from java

[quiet ice]

OSHI is a free JNA-based (native) Operating System and Hardware Information library for Java. It does not require the installation of any additional native libraries and aims to provide a cross-platform implementation to retrieve system information, such as OS version, processes, memory and CPU usage, disks and partitions, devices, sensors, etc.
I'd really just use OSHI

Since all roads lead to JNI anyways

Although with panama it might be a slightly different story

And I know that paper shades in OSHI for /timings - so you'd only need to shade in the library yourself for spigot users

[cunning canopy]

Ah. I love being a sysengineer in my own home

Especcialy when all the servers are laptops that somehow manages to unplug themselves

[dry yacht]

Isn't that just an API in another language (likely C) that's being accessed? I've never worked with JNI, but I guess that C bindings is what it's mostly about.

[quiet ice]

Yes

[eternal oxide]

I've used JNA but not OSHI

[dry yacht]

Really need to play with JNA myself too, just to get a feel for it. Seems pretty cool! :)

[eternal oxide]

used it to interface with FFMPEG

[quiet ice]

However there is OSHI-FFM which uses panama and henceforth works a bit differently since panama allows to write stuff with less C

But OSHI-FFM is still in dev for the forseeable future due to panama being very new

[hazy parrot]

looks like thingy from com.sun works

[tall dragon]

ur just tryna get cpu load?, havent been following the convo

[hazy parrot]

ya

[small hawk]

Hi guys, i have a problem, I want to block a way for player to put items in offhand slot in their Inventory (I already blocked the F shortcut). I can't get right the checks in event. Can someone help me out? I will give you below what I have already got

    @EventHandler
    public static void withHeartInventoryOffHandClick(InventoryClickEvent event) {
        if (event.getCursor() != null) {
            System.out.println("bim");
            if (event.getCurrentItem().getItemMeta() != null) {
                if (event.getCurrentItem().getItemMeta().equals(ItemManager.life_heart.getItemMeta())) {
                    System.out.println("bam");
                    if (event.getRawSlot() == 45 && event.getClick() == ClickType.LEFT) {
                        event.setCancelled(true);
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }

[hazy parrot]

?arrowcode

[undone axle]

http://wiki.c2.com/?ArrowAntiPattern

[small hawk]

ye, i don't do this. It's just a first version to block it, then i will get to refactoring

[wet breach]

did you want overall cpu usage or cpu usage being consumed by java?

if you want cpu usage consumed by java you don't need reflection for it

[hazy parrot]

consumed by jvm

ended up doing

OperatingSystemMXBean operatingSystemMXBean = (OperatingSystemMXBean) ManagementFactory.getOperatingSystemMXBean();
cpuUsage = operatingSystemMXBean.getProcessCpuLoad();

[wet breach]

ThreadMXBean threadMXBean = ManagementFactory.getThreadMXBean();

for(Long threadID : threadMXBean.getAllThreadIds()) {
    ThreadInfo info = threadMXBean.getThreadInfo(threadID);
    System.out.println("Thread name: " + info.getThreadName());
    System.out.println("Thread State: " + info.getThreadState());
    System.out.println(String.format("CPU time: %s ns", 
      threadMXBean.getThreadCpuTime(threadID)));
  }

gives you cpu time in ns for all threads being used by java

[dry yacht]

What's printed when you use right click? Nothing?

[wet breach]

could even add the cpu load thing too to it

[wet breach]

this would be the correct way 🙂

the other way you could do it, if you wanted the cpu load of the whole system would be to drop out of java and invoke the console

[small hawk]

both of prints, depends if i am picking or dropping item in inventory

[dry yacht]

Well, you're only cancelling if event.getClick() == ClickType.LEFT is satisfied, how about just ignoring click type if that target item is on the cursor and the slot matches? That should be sufficient.

[small hawk]

okay, so i removed it, now it allows me to put in offhand slot and every other move from offhand slot is cancelled

[dry yacht]

I also think that you shouldn't compare against getCurrentItem, but rather against the cursor item, as that's what you're about to place down, and you want to block putting items.

[small hawk]

Ye, that works, tysm for help

[dry yacht]

Awesome! :)

[neon badge]

Anyone know why but when i restart my server the stats in the scoreboard resets ^^ i use hashmap

[gloomy ruin]

Im using PvPManager, does anyone know how i can make it so people with op can get into combat

[hazy parrot]

Because hashmap is not persistent

It only stores in memory, which is of course removed after restart

[thorn crypt]

Hi, I'm using ProtocolLib to send a fake block to a player but it doesn't want to work, I'm using this code :

PacketContainer packet = Main.getInstance().protocolManager.createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.BLOCK_CHANGE);
        packet.getBlockPositionModifier().write(0, new BlockPosition(x, y, z));
        packet.getBlockData().write(0, Bukkit.createBlockData(block));

        // Envoi du packet au joueur dans le monde spécifié
        try {
            Main.getInstance().protocolManager.sendServerPacket(player, packet);
        } catch (InvocationTargetException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }

But on line 3 it doesn't accept Bukkit.createBlockData(block) and suggest me to Cast it as "WrappedBlockData" or "Wrap using WrappedBlockData.fromHandle()" but neither of them work, it get me a error in console saying :

Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: handle (CraftBlockData{minecraft:gold_block}) is not a class net.minecraft.world.level.block.state.IBlockData, but class org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R1.block.data.CraftBlockData

[neon badge]

Alright so i guess you need to store the data somewhere and could i do that in mongodb or is there any other store thingy that you would recommend?

[thorn crypt]

config file or db 😅 (i recommand db)

[eternal oxide]

spigot has a sendBlockChange to handle fake blocks

[neon badge]

db =mongodb right?

[thorn crypt]

Oh, how can I do that ?

[thorn crypt]

mongodb, sqlite, mysql

[eternal oxide]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#sendBlockChange(org.bukkit.Location,org.bukkit.block.data.BlockData)

[thorn crypt]

Thanks, i'll take a look at it

[thorn crypt]

It's awesome thanks you ! It work perfectly

[hazy parrot]

You can also save data in player pdc

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[terse pumice]

How can I get/edit the contents of a composter? By contents I mean the bonemeal output, not the levels

[eternal oxide]

Composter has an inventory https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/inventory/InventoryType.html#COMPOSTER

[terse pumice]

yeahh, but how do I get that inventory aha

[eternal oxide]

good question

it seems to not have a block data type

[terse pumice]

yeahh- that's the road block I've hit haha

[eternal oxide]

ah it has BlockData type of Levelled

[terse pumice]

it does indeed

[eternal oxide]

so getBlockData() and cast

[terse pumice]

what am I casting it to? Levelled?

[eternal oxide]

yes

[terse pumice]

how do i get the contents from that?

from my understanding that only allows me to get/set the level of the composter

[eternal oxide]

um that gives you a levelled data you can change how much is in it

I guess how full

[terse pumice]

yeahh, i'm trying to change the actual item in it when it's full

[eternal oxide]

oh

you'd probably have to intercept the interact event to prevent it throwing things out when you click on it

[remote swallow]

might be on block drop item event

[eternal oxide]

^

could be

[terse pumice]

ooh hadn't head of this one before

let me give it a shot!

[eternal oxide]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/block/BlockDropItemEvent.html

[terse pumice]

I was going to "setCancelled" player interact but wasn't so keen

[eternal oxide]

that seems to indicate it only fies on a block break but you'll have to test and see

[terse pumice]

will do :)

[eternal oxide]

else try https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerHarvestBlockEvent.html

I'd probably try harvest first

[terse pumice]

ooh good idea

neither appears to work unfortunately

[eternal oxide]

No clue then

[terse pumice]

might just have to cancel the event and handle it myself

not ideal

[regal scaffold]

Why does my plugin correctly hook into vault in my test enviorement but other people report that a no vault dependency is found?

Why would this be the case

[eternal oxide]

load order varies

only initialize your vault dependency 1 tick after your onEnable

[regal scaffold]

Ah

Didn't see that in their api

[buoyant viper]

possibly https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityChangeBlockEvent.html

for composer

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/nms-patches/net/minecraft/world/level/block/BlockComposter.patch#54

[terse pumice]

oooh, let me give it a shot!

[buoyant viper]

not sure exactly how it could be utilized tho

[regal scaffold]

So use

        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(this, new Runnable() {
            @Override
            public void run() {
                // Send the message
            }
        }, 1L);
```?

[eternal oxide]

just runTask no need for later

it will always try to run in the next tick

[terse pumice]

i have a slight idea, i could probably use it in a similar way to how I was using PlayerInteractEvent, except cancelling that event is less likely to cause damage to other plugins

[remote swallow]

you can also format that l ike ```java
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(this, () -> {
run stuff
});

[regal scaffold]

How can I disable my entire plugin if it's not found tho

Cause obviously "this" is no longer valid

[buoyant viper]

what if they dont want a lambda smh

[regal scaffold]

As a plugin instance

Do I just static get it?

[remote swallow]

if you do that on enable just use this

[eternal oxide]

if you want to disable add vault as a depend not a softdepend

[regal scaffold]

getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(Bukkit.getPluginManager().getPlugin("BetterPrefix"));

[remote swallow]

just use this

[regal scaffold]

Vault is a depend

[remote swallow]

you will still have a plugin instance

[regal scaffold]

Oh

[eternal oxide]

then your plugin will nto enable if it's absent

[regal scaffold]

Ok ok

[golden turret]

sorry to annoy you but do you remember how you made the custom blocks?

[regal scaffold]

Still some users are reporting errors

[eternal oxide]

you can't be initializing correctly

[regal scaffold]

I'm checking the logs file and vault is actually loaded fully before too

[eternal oxide]

can't do more without seeing code

[regal scaffold]

        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(this, () -> {
            if (!setupEconomy() ) {
                log.severe(String.format("[%s] - Disabled due to no Vault dependency found!", getDescription().getName()));
                getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this);
                return;
            }
            setupPermissions();
            setupChat();
            log.info(String.format("[%s] - Plugin was enabled successfully!", getDescription().getName()));
        });

I copy pasted exactly what vault does

It works perfectly for me

Just not for a specific user

[eternal oxide]

get his server log. make sure he really has vault

[regal scaffold]

I do have it

I even got his timings report

I'm trying to understand why it works on my test setup but not for him. Nothing is different

I even see other plugins successfully getting vault

[07:39:06] [Server thread/INFO]: [Vault] Enabling Vault v1.7.3-b131
[07:39:06] [Server thread/INFO]: [Vault] [Permission] SuperPermissions loaded as backup permission system.
[07:39:06] [Server thread/INFO]: [Vault] Enabled Version 1.7.3-b131
[07:39:06] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Registered Vault permission & chat hook.

In their api. vault has

        if (getServer().getPluginManager().getPlugin("Vault") == null) {
            return false;
        }

Can't I just remove it since I have it as a depend in my plugin.yml

It won't even reach that part if it's not present

[eternal oxide]

not safe to

[regal scaffold]

What else could it be

I even got his vault jar checked if it was the same and it worked for me

[eternal oxide]

shwo your pom

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[regal scaffold]

It's set to provided

https://paste.md-5.net/xudasefabu.xml

[eternal oxide]

k

so long as it is a depend and not a softdepend then spigot will always load your plugin second

softdepend is not guaranteed

[regal scaffold]

depend: [Vault]
softdepend: [PlaceholderAPI]

Yes

[eternal oxide]

and as long a you hook vault 1 tick after onEnable there is no reason for any issues

[regal scaffold]

        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(this, () -> {
            if (!setupEconomy() ) {
                log.severe(String.format("[%s] - Disabled due to no Vault dependency found!", getDescription().getName()));
                getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this);
                return;
            }
            setupPermissions();
            setupChat();
            log.info(String.format("[%s] - Plugin was enabled successfully!", getDescription().getName()));
        });

Yet he still gets the same error

[eternal oxide]

his error is the output you do for no vault?

[regal scaffold]

Yup

[%s] - Disabled due to no Vault dependency found!

[eternal oxide]

makes no sense

[remote swallow]

if it works for you not him, get him to send you his vault jar

and test with that'

[regal scaffold]

I have his vault jar

And it works for me with his vault jar

[eternal oxide]

gremlins then

[regal scaffold]

I'm telling you it's the weirdest shit

lmao

[eternal oxide]

show us his startup log

[sterile token]

Does anyone the guy that once Sent me His storage libraur github link, i rememberit was written un kotlim, but i can find the repo

[regal scaffold]

https://paste.md-5.net/ximexawipu.md

Literally just repasted all his files to make sure

I'm getting him to zip his entire server and send it over

[eternal oxide]

line 419 is when the server finishes loading

[regal scaffold]

I'm gonna get to the bottom of this weird wuju

[eternal oxide]

I don;t see your vault error after that

[remote swallow]

is that vault custom compiled

[regal scaffold]

400-401\

[remote swallow]

im pretty sure the spigot version doesnt have the b131 on it

[regal scaffold]

Nope. latest of spigot

Yeah I thought that too so I asked for the jar

It's the same

[eternal oxide]

400 is before the server is loaded, before yoru onEnable has finished

[regal scaffold]

What does that mean then?

[eternal oxide]

thats not using the scheduled load yoru showed us

[remote swallow]

well line 404 says another plugin cant hook valt

[eternal oxide]

yep both attempting to hook too early

[regal scaffold]

It is, I have different logs it was a bit higher

You're saying all the way at the bottom of my onEnable then?

[eternal oxide]

you must be checking for vault twice

if it was being checked in your scheduled task it would error after line 419

[regal scaffold]

Ok wait I will change it

[eternal oxide]

unless, it's that wierd server distro he's using

[regal scaffold]

latest paper

[remote swallow]

pufferfish is a fork of purpur i think

[regal scaffold]

Checked that too

oh wait

wtf

It is pufferfish

[eternal oxide]

as line 405+ shows the scheduler running, but thats too early to be running tasks

[remote swallow]

its a fork of paper it turns out

[regal scaffold]

But why would some plugins correctly load vault and others not

Ok wait let me change something around and try again

[eternal oxide]

there are issues with that log

[regal scaffold]

Wait so elgarl

[eternal oxide]

No tasks shoudl be run before line 419

[regal scaffold]

I'm moving my scheduler inside the new runTask

[eternal oxide]

the scheduler doesn;t run any until the server is loaded

[regal scaffold]

And I moved runtask to the all bottom of onenable

So it will only check for vault and start the scheduler 1 tick after onenable

Compiling and testing on his setup

[remote swallow]

whats the scheduler for if you have run task

[eternal oxide]

actually no task should execute before line 423

[regal scaffold]

tasktimer

[eternal oxide]

that is a seriously messed up log

[regal scaffold]

Do you want me to increase the delay then?

Instead of 1L

[eternal oxide]

no, I want him to run a normal server and see if it works. None of those tasks shoudl run early

his server is broken

[regal scaffold]

xd

His uploading the zip

[eternal oxide]

his server runs its first task at line 390

WAY too early. scheduler is not started then

[regal scaffold]

Isn;t that stuff directly related to plugins tho?

[eternal oxide]

makes no difference

no scheduled task can be run before the server finishes loading

[regal scaffold]

His server jar has impact on that?

[eternal oxide]

the scheduler doesn;t allow it

[regal scaffold]

Yeah I understand what you mean

But that's a specific plugin that does that no?

[eternal oxide]

no

no plugin shoudl be able to start teh scheduler

[regal scaffold]

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And more coming soon...

[eternal oxide]

you can queue up tasks in yoru plugins startup

but none shoudl run until the server is started

[regal scaffold]

I got the zip

Lets see

Maybe that's just how pufferfish works?

[eternal oxide]

its possible

in which case a LOT of plugins would break

[regal scaffold]

Who knows why people use these weird forks

Yeah no, not even with the changes

Running normal paper

Trying now

[eternal oxide]

Its an issue with pufferfish starting the scheduler too early

[regal scaffold]

I moved my scheduler

To after onEnable

And still didn't work

[frank kettle]

i noticed when i run something async it starts a thread number but it keeps always increasing. is this thread number the total or the number of active threads? like im afraid im supposed to "remove" them in some way to maybe decrease potential lag later on

[eternal oxide]

yep, it's not your codes fault

[regal scaffold]

Ok indeed it's pufferfish

Anything I can do to support it?

[eternal oxide]

complain to pufferfish they are starting the scheduler too early

[regal scaffold]

Oh oh nvm

Wait wait

Didn't work on paper either

[eternal oxide]

didn't?

[regal scaffold]

https://paste.md-5.net/ekolunofav.md

[eternal oxide]

scheduler starting too early? then it's one of his plughins causing it, via version perhaps

[remote swallow]

time to binary search the plugins if its not via ver

[eternal oxide]

yep 395 the scheduler starts, too early again

[regal scaffold]

Even for paper?

[remote swallow]

has to be a plugin causing it

[regal scaffold]

https://timings.aikar.co/dev/?id=16ecb53275c54df79f469c28fb1554d7#plugins

[eternal oxide]

yep

no task shoudl run before you see Done (15.268s)! For help, type "help"

line 428

[regal scaffold]

Well I see no plugin that would be doing that

I litearlly copied my paper jar

[remote swallow]

via ver might but ive never seen that happen with it

[regal scaffold]

Let me install viaversion on my terst

[eternal oxide]

whatever is giving this output is the likely culprit[22:12:06] [Server thread/INFO]: Successfully loaded using bukkit version: v1_19_R2 [22:12:06] [Server thread/INFO]: Found LuckPerms! Hooking in. [22:12:06] [Server thread/INFO]: Running delayed init tasks

[regal scaffold]

Hmmmm

I know what that is

But why

[remote swallow]

looks like that runs after BetterPrefix is enabled

[regal scaffold]

It should run before actually. But that doesn't require vault

Indeed now the error is in my test server too

[eternal oxide]

something there is doing naughty things and kicking off the scheduler early

[regal scaffold]

Ok the wierdest thing happened:

I copied his plugins folder to my test server. It worked with all loaded plugins. I copied all the plugins back to his test server

And now it worked

wtf?

[eternal oxide]

scheduler workign as it should?

[regal scaffold]

idk about that part but it's registering vault

And just started his pufferfish

jar

And it registered vault too

what tf

[eternal oxide]

I blame sunspots

[sterile token]

That're the resons i dont MC server hosting and just like using vms rather single Sever host

Cus they aleays internallh inject a custom plugin so they can limitur severs by diff ways

[eternal oxide]

Some of that was English 🙂

[sterile token]

??

[neon badge]

Anyone know what this is for? In the yt video im following it gives me an error

[sterile token]

Isn't that old from mongo?

[rapid aspen]

Is there a way to disable a event for just one player?

[neon badge]

Probably the vid is 4 years old xd

[sterile token]

MongoClient client = MongoClients.create();

If I'm not wrong

[neon badge]

Aight

[sterile token]

Cam haber some sintax issue I'm.currrnt on cellphoen

[remote swallow]

oh god

[sterile token]

You can ser how cursed Is written

Hahah

[remote swallow]

you still havent learnt java and your doing mongo

[sterile token]

I,ll take that as a joke

[remote swallow]

9xx2 was here yesterday for basic java syntax issues

[neon badge]

i also had a string with "uri" and not sure that was for however i made a config to connect my mongo to

[sterile token]

Because most ppl learnt the lang where coding beforr uskng apis/libs 💀

[remote swallow]

they got told to learn java a lot and then left

[sterile token]

Righg

[neon badge]

Nah its because i solved it

[sterile token]

So same apply here, must learnt java

I wont help if not

[rapid aspen]

?

[neon badge]

I watched a few tutorials about basic java that a few hours and none of them covered Mongo so im not sure thats basic java

[regal scaffold]

What's the players name displayed in console? Is it player#setDisplayName()

[neon badge]

Nvm solved it

[frank kettle]

how is the list Bukkit.getOfflinePlayers() made? like who are the first in this list? is it based on players joined, so 1st player ever joined will be first, 2nd is 2nd and so on... or is it different each time when server starts? or something different than this

[lost matrix]

Sure. I've replaced existing blocks which where useless to us.
There is no good method currently to add custom blocks to the game

[lost matrix]

I think the first few ones are those in the offline player cache. From then on it loads the players in whatever order they are
on the File system.

[frank kettle]

so based on their uuid alphabetic order

[lost matrix]

Yeah probably

[regal scaffold]

How can I change the output of a message in console? Why does it look empty?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741875863271899136/1076323819234545704/image.png

[remote swallow]

do you modify the content

[regal scaffold]

Yeah placeholder stuff

            format = format.replace("{PREFIX}", getChat().getPlayerPrefix(player));
            format = format.replace("{NAME}", player.getName());
            format = format.replace("{SUFFIX}", getChat().getPlayerSuffix(player));
            format = format.replace("{MESSAGE}", message);
            format = colorize(translateHexColorCodes(this.getServer().getPluginManager().isPluginEnabled("PlaceholderAPI") ? PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(player, format) : format));
            event.setFormat(format);

[remote swallow]

modify the format and use %2$s as the message

[regal scaffold]

Like to test? replace format with %2$s?

[remote swallow]

%2$s is the plaecholder for the message

make sure its on async chat event on high/highest priority too

console might be stuff relating to secure profile

[regal scaffold]

It was working before which is weird

Ummm

[remote swallow]

change priority

[regal scaffold]

Highest

Change to high instead?

[remote swallow]

highest should work

any errors?

[regal scaffold]

It has been on highest

Nope, nothing at all just no player displayed

    @EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST)
    public void onChat(AsyncPlayerChatEvent event) {

        if (CHAT_ENABLED) {
            String message = event.getMessage();
            Player player = event.getPlayer();
            event.setMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', message));
            String format = "%2$s";
            format = format.replace("{PREFIX}", getChat().getPlayerPrefix(player));
            format = format.replace("{NAME}", player.getName());
            format = format.replace("{SUFFIX}", getChat().getPlayerSuffix(player));
            format = format.replace("{MESSAGE}", message);
            format = colorize(translateHexColorCodes(this.getServer().getPluginManager().isPluginEnabled("PlaceholderAPI") ? PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(player, format) : format));
            event.setFormat(format);
        }

    }

[remote swallow]

format can stay as whatever you had before

just replace the message placeholder with %2$s

might be %s$2