help-development

[vale ember]

is there a way to get item's default name if there is no display name (e.g. "Diamond Sword" for diamond sword)?

[tender shard]

no, that's language specific

you'd need to have the language .json file

e.g. for me it would be called "Diamantschwert" instead

[vale ember]

I just wanna append a string to the name, how can i do that?

[remote swallow]

if you need a name format Material.SOMETHING

[tender shard]

but that only works for english and not all items IIRC

I think some items have a different name than their MATERIAL

[remote swallow]

yeah

thats the main problem

[tender shard]

although I dont remember any right now

[remote swallow]

isnt there an I18N method or something like that for them

[tender shard]

you need the client's translation json files

[remote swallow]

ah

[tender shard]

I use this to read those json files, but admins hate having to install the translation json https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/jeff_media/jefflib/MaterialUtils.java#L43

[remote swallow]

does the server have language json?

i thought that was client

[tender shard]

yeah

you have to unzip your client .jar, get the translation .json and upload it to the server lol

quite annoying

[remote swallow]

ah yeah

didnt one of the hypixel make a website for that

devs**

[tender shard]

idk

if you find it, send it pls

[remote swallow]

one serc

[vale ember]

i can embed the language .json into the plugin resources or query it at runtime from web right?

[remote swallow]

https://mcasset.cloud/?

this

[tender shard]

I am not sure if there's any copyright on those files

that's why I make the admins upload it themselves

[livid dove]

I'm brainstorming a way to edit every it in the game at once...

We ha da huge exploit that was carchdd waaaay too late to reser.

So we need to delete all the gold blocks and enchanted tools

[tender shard]

"to edit every it"?

[livid dove]

Every one of of

*of them

[eternal night]

every item I presume

[tender shard]

every one of what?

[livid dove]

Jesus this phone lol

[tender shard]

lol phone keyboards suck

[eternal night]

We ha da huge exploit that was carchdd waaaay too late to reser.
hurt my brain

[remote swallow]

inventive talent has it all on a github page so

i think its ifne

[livid dove]

Every Gold Block and enchanted item

[remote swallow]

wrong link

https://github.com/InventivetalentDev/minecraft-assets/blob/1.19.3/assets/minecraft/lang/en_gb.json

[tender shard]

that's nice

[vale ember]

so like

"https://assets.mcasset.cloud/1.19.2/assets/minecraft/lang/%s.json".formatted(player.getLocale())

[remote swallow]

they have every language

[remote swallow]

get the github raw instead

[vale ember]

what;s the difference?

[remote swallow]

oh wait

i thought that was the popup thing

yeah that should work lol

[tender shard]

formatted()?

isn't it a huge json file?

[vale ember]

the url string

not json file

[tender shard]

oooh

[remote swallow]

but you might get timed out because github requests

[tender shard]

I am stupid

[delicate oak]

@tender shard
Do you know what do I need to change to show the messages for everyone (global chat) not for only the for the command sender?

[remote swallow]

use Bukkit.broadcastMessage or loop over online players

[tender shard]

Bukkit.broadcastMessage

[delicate oak]

ty.

[humble tulip]

Get nbtapi, write a plugin to read all player data and remove those items frm their inv and e chest

[tender shard]

what the heck, no. use PDC to store data in items

[fierce whale]

I changed package name in Intellij but It wasn't changed after complied in jar file
Does anyone know how to fix it?

[humble tulip]

Read what I replied to

[tender shard]

oh my bad

if you only need it for one version, you can also easily load player files with like 2 codes of NMS

but yeah NBTAPI is probably easier

[quiet ice]

Components

I.e. have a Chat component consisting of a translation component and a literal string

However for that you will either need NMS or Paper

[remote swallow]

does minimessage components require paper for that

[vale ember]

that's worth considering but i don't really wanna do nms

[remote swallow]

if not just shade minimessages in

[quiet ice]

You can apply minimessage stuff to itemstacks?

[remote swallow]

ah

not in spigot

you could convert it to strings

just use minimessage for the translation

[quiet ice]

That would defeat the while point

Unless ...

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[quiet ice]

You use a method from my favourite class: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/UnsafeValues.html#modifyItemStack(org.bukkit.inventory.ItemStack,java.lang.String)

[summer agate]

the minimessage dev is also a paper dev, so that's why paper has it

[tender shard]

jefflib also has a method to get the translationkey but obv it also uses NMS itself https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/jeff_media/jefflib/WordUtils.java#L131

[remote swallow]

yeah

he joined paper sometime after minimessage though

[quiet ice]

Disregard the deprecation though

[livid dove]

Issue is normal chests

[tender shard]

however you can easily get the translation key using reflection, version independent

[nimble hill]

Is there any way that you can specify a plugin is to unload before you if its in the environment? Or is it a ffa? Or are there some orders im missing

[rotund ravine]

?stash

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[rotund ravine]

https://puu.sh/JvFmX/44f30b5ee3.png

[tender shard]

is there a way to turn a bukkit EntityType into an NMS EntityType without doing it by it's enum name?

[rotund ravine]

Probably not

[analog vapor]

It worked fine on 1.12.2, it broke when we moved to 1.18.2

[golden turret]

when a falling block falls and drops the item is there a way to detect that the item that is spawning is from a falling block?

[glossy venture]

how do i listen for and receive this data on the bukkit side (this code is on the BungeeCord proxy)

[analog vapor]

@remote swallow is there a different way to mention blocks? Because everything works fine other than the soft blocks

[rotund ravine]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/sending-a-custom-plugin-message-from-bungeecord/

[tender shard]

can someone explain to me how to compile CraftBukkit? I added some methods and it won't compile because e.g. of this. I have not touched this class, btw

[tender shard]

well okay np

[remote swallow]

oh that was happening to other people

@opal juniper might know

[tender shard]

I have tried to contribute to spigot so many times, but it simply will never compile

[remote swallow]

one sec

[rotund ravine]

?stash

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[opal juniper]

havbe you applied patches

[remote swallow]

just checked and the config seems the same, what part now doesnt work since you updated

[tender shard]

ofc I haven't. Just found it - why the heck is it at the bottom of the wiki article lol

it's full of useless pictures and the only important part is at the very bottom lmao

[opal juniper]

very true

[remote swallow]

thats normally most spigot wikis ive found

[tender shard]

I'll try again when buildtools is done

[remote swallow]

its all loads of pictures or useless stuff

like the scheduler wiki

[tender shard]

yeah I mean, as if anyone didn't know how to fork a repo lmao

[analog vapor]

The Soft Blocks part, one that are supposed to break when siege starts

[tender shard]

people who don't know how to click on "fork" will probably not contribute to craftbukkit lol

[remote swallow]

i dont find a part that is like that

this?

[analog vapor]

yeah

[remote swallow]

one sec

?stash

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[rotund ravine]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/test/java/org/bukkit/entity/EntityTypesTest.java#17,22

They're doing the same

[tender shard]

alrighty, thx

[remote swallow]

do the ones that are all capitalised work

[analog vapor]

wdym?

[remote swallow]

to me it looks like that sections means those blocks can be broke in a siege

[analog vapor]

no all are capitalised, and when we initiate siege they do not break

[remote swallow]

one moment

[quiet ice]

reverse loading order basically

So if you alter the loading order you alter the unloading order - although that can have issues in in itself

[nimble hill]

Thank you both

:)

Thats what i figures

Unless something is messing with the turn order

[next stratus]

Hey, I've come across a real strange bug. If I run the method in the Java main method the code works perfectly fine, but if I try using onLoad or onEnable neither work correctly. What on earth is going on 🤨

[remote swallow]

?paste the class

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[eternal oxide]

plugins do not use the Java Main method

[hazy parrot]

I hope you are not using main(args)

[next stratus]

I'm using this to load https://paste.md-5.net/ihukuwofic.java and https://paste.md-5.net/hipikidema.cs works fine, the main stuff with autogenerated by intellij

[tender shard]

why the heck does it mark "item stack" in green lol

[cold field]

CTRL - F?

[opal juniper]

^

[eternal oxide]

Thats not a plugin

[next stratus]

Hm?

[remote swallow]

that does nothing to a server

[tender shard]

nah I don't have search open

but yeah it does look like search

[analog vapor]

siege?

[next stratus]

I was trying to use https://paste.md-5.net/marutucevu.css

[remote swallow]

other guys problem

[analog vapor]

ah okk

[next stratus]

I tried in onEnable also

[remote swallow]

do you extend JavaPlugin

[hazy parrot]

well, send your main class

[eternal oxide]

does your class extend JavaPlugin? Does it have a plugin.yml?

[remote swallow]

how do i trigger a siege btw

[tender shard]

i love it when people only paste one method instead of the class lol

[analog vapor]

/siege <player>

[next stratus]

https://paste.md-5.net/buyofaxoqa.java

Sorry 😛

[remote swallow]

the main method wont do anything there

[remote swallow]

which line enables siege lol

i cant find anything in config

[next stratus]

in the ide it works perfectly fine but not on the spigot server

[remote swallow]

because thats an ide

[eternal oxide]

yes, but in teh ide it's not a plugin

[analog vapor]

wait lemme see

[remote swallow]

unless you run a spigot server in your ide that does nothing

[next stratus]

I mean, I thought if it was working in the ide it should work fine on the server also no?

I mean I moved it to onEnable ofc

[eternal oxide]

main is never called by a plugin on a server

[next stratus]

I moved stuff to onEnable and onLoad with no luck

[eternal oxide]

yes, in onEnable it will work, IF your plugin is even working

check servers latest.log for any plugin errors

[next stratus]

there's no logs that's the fun bit

[warm dagger]

Hello is there an api for voice recognition

[eternal oxide]

probably one about can;t find a plugin.yml or can;t find main

[next stratus]

[15:32:59 INFO]: [IceCore] hi from onLoad
[15:32:59 INFO]: [IceCore] [STDOUT] loaded classSet: []
[15:32:59 INFO]: [IceCore] [STDOUT] loaded classSet: []
[15:32:59 INFO]: [IceCore] []

[eternal oxide]

there are always logs

[next stratus]

it just says that where as in the IDE that classSet isn't empty

[analog vapor]

maybe it is not there

strange

[remote swallow]

yeah

this is the main reason i never use gp

docs are awful

config is documented

isnt**

[analog vapor]

Sadly thats what the server relies on 😭

[next stratus]

I'm so confused upon why it works fine with the main but onEnable seems to be handling it differently lol

[hazy parrot]

how are you testing your plugin ?

are you just running it from ide

because that surely wont work

[next stratus]

No, I'm exporting to a local test server and testing from there

[remote swallow]

best option you have for help is just opening issues on their github and hoping for a quick response, otherwise just try and convince the server to swap to towny or something like that

[analog vapor]

devs went inactive a while ago

[remote swallow]

ah

[trim creek]

yaya even I dont code that much anymore 🤔

I used to code all day

[remote swallow]

do you /reload confirm or restart when you build a new plugin

[next stratus]

I've tried both with no luck

[trim creek]

having only the custom plugin should not affect the plugin, mostly if it only has an onEnable and an onDisable

[vale ember]

is there a way of getting the default attack damage and speed of a weapon (e.g. Material.DIAMOND_SWORD) or do i have to hard-code those values?

[remote swallow]

thats stored in nbt iirc

[remote swallow]

restarting should always work

put the code you want to run when the plugin gets started in onEnable

add a debug message if you want

[next stratus]

i'm going through the debug message system now lol so confused upon where the issue is

[trim creek]

to debug a message just send a message to the console

e.g Bukkit.getLogger().info("gugugágá");

[remote swallow]

brodcast better imo

[trim creek]

who cares

both works

XD

and also

why broadcast a plugin load to the whole server? :DD

[fluid river]

getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage("§aHello bro"); 💀

[trim creek]

playersa should nota see-a plugins-a

[remote swallow]

because i would never have debug messages on a public servers

most debug messages arent ever left in a plugin

i havent had a plugin with config debug messages

that i would use logger for

[trim creek]

"testing it on a local server" he said

ergo

he can use debugs

and just remove them after the plugin is complete

[remote swallow]

yeah

[analog vapor]

@remote swallow how do I find the trigger

[remote swallow]

oh which

of

[fluid river]

you learn infromatics

[next stratus]

https://i.imgur.com/Y6p1Sfk.png https://i.imgur.com/a0l0mKL.png seems like a bukkit bug or something at this point

[fluid river]

and use trigger

[analog vapor]

siege

[humble tulip]

Just have a debuglogger that reads a value from config ti determine whether it should enable

[remote swallow]

like a person?

[analog vapor]

what

[fluid river]

like rainbow six

[fluid river]

you won't get it...

[analog vapor]

Like you asked where the trigger to initiate siege

[remote swallow]

ohhh

i couldnt find a config option to enabl eit

[analog vapor]

did you give me a way to end my life

enable it?

[remote swallow]

and just doing /siege says its not enabled

[fluid river]

rs trigger

[next stratus]

I'm so confused upon why it works on the main method, but in spigot it doesn't load. Is there possibly a bug within spigot what's breaking this?

[analog vapor]

o

[remote swallow]

couldnt find the config option for it

[fluid river]

D trigger

[analog vapor]

let me find it

[remote swallow]

what does the code actually do

the addonds class

[fallow violet]

its d latch isnt it?

[next stratus]

It allows me to load addons in using our annotation system

[fluid river]

spigot loads classes own way

[remote swallow]

i would guess the issue is with that and not how spigot loads

[fluid river]

that's why plugins don't have main()

[next stratus]

But it's strange it breaks when it gets to spigot and works fine in plain java

[analog vapor]

😭

[remote swallow]

thats plugin.yml

thats just for a command

[analog vapor]

ikik

[fallow violet]

lol

[remote swallow]

i just get this if i attempt to use it

[analog vapor]

im just sobbing because thats all i could find, boutta dig deeper

[remote swallow]

fair lol

[analog vapor]

ah

wait

[next stratus]

But something can't be right for it to work with no spigot then break with spigot

[analog vapor]

@remote swallow add the world name

[remote swallow]

ohhh

from how this config looks does the breakable blocks in siege mean those can be broke in a siege?

[analog vapor]

yes

that are present in a claim

[remote swallow]

it looks like a gp bug

[analog vapor]

so theres no way to fix it?

[remote swallow]

without knowing what causes it not really

[humble tulip]

thats formatted wrong

lol

you need to have 2 spaces before the -

[fluid river]

much things which work on default java might kill spgiot environment

async for example(spigot has exception handling for async things tho)

[remote swallow]

thats default config lol

[humble tulip]

yeah well it's formatted wrong

[fossil pike]

anyone know how to fix this error?

Executing pre-compile tasks...
Running 'before' tasks
Checking sources
Parsing java… [spigot]
java: error: release version 19 not supported
Checking dependencies… [spigot]
Dependency analysis found 0 affected files
Errors occurred while compiling module 'spigot'
javac 17 was used to compile java sources
Finished, saving caches…
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Executing post-compile tasks...
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Synchronizing output directories...
1/3/2023 12:02 PM - Build completed with 1 error and 0 warnings in 2 sec, 786 ms

[remote swallow]

even after changing formatting the issue perssits

[fossil pike]

i dont know which version is

how do I check

[humble tulip]

lists look like this

java --version

[fluid river]

java --version

[remote swallow]

yeah

its greif prevention config

[fossil pike]

PS C:\Users\King\Desktop\spigot> java --version
java 11.0.17 2022-10-18 LTS
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 18.9 (build 11.0.17+10-LTS-269)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 18.9 (build 11.0.17+10-LTS-269, mixed mode)
PS C:\Users\King\Desktop\spigot>

[humble tulip]

that's java 11

[fossil pike]

perfect thanks

[remote swallow]

but yeah @analog vapor it looks like a gp issue that it cant figure out those blocks can be broke, even after changing formatting the issue still persists. this is also a fresh server with just gp so pretty much can only be a gp issue

[analog vapor]

do you believe theres any way I can fix it? Other than spamming devs

[remote swallow]

you could check source and see whats causing the issue and attempt to fix it but otherwise not really

[analog vapor]

how do i check the source?

[remote swallow]

the source is the code on the github

but their codebase is just a mess and i doubt you would find it easily

[humble tulip]

@analog vapor

[analog vapor]

hi

[humble tulip]

is this how the config looks?

[remote swallow]

yes

[analog vapor]

yes

[humble tulip]

add 2 spaces before every -

and try again

[remote swallow]

even with correct formatting their issue persists lol

[analog vapor]

which oneof the 100 places

[analog vapor]

Ebic did

[remote swallow]

somewhere in src/main folders

[humble tulip]

now add a world name that doesnt exist

and load up your server

look for

this error

lmk what you see

[analog vapor]

its starting wait

[fossil pike]

installed java 11 on my machine and still getting "java: error: release version 19 not supported"

should I completely uninstall java and install v11 again? or am I missing something here

[tender shard]

java 11 is a bit older than java 19

whatever you are trying to run was compiled for java 19

[humble tulip]

where are you getting that error?

[last sleet]

How do I know if an entity is a pillager captain?

[fossil pike]

when I try to build the artifact

Executing pre-compile tasks...
Running 'before' tasks
Checking sources
Parsing java… [spigot]
java: error: release version 19 not supported
Checking dependencies… [spigot]
Dependency analysis found 0 affected files
Errors occurred while compiling module 'spigot'
javac 17 was used to compile java sources
Finished, saving caches…
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Executing post-compile tasks...
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Synchronizing output directories...
1/3/2023 12:14 PM - Build completed with 1 error and 0 warnings in 2 sec, 769 ms

[tender shard]

is that the one with the banner?

[last sleet]

yeah

[tender shard]

you could check whether the entity is instanceof Pillager, and then check if their main hand (or whatever) contains a banner

[last sleet]

oke

[tender shard]

is there a special NBT tag for these "captains"?

[humble tulip]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Raider.html#isPatrolLeader()

[tender shard]

aah

I have looked for "captain" in the javadocs but couldnt find anything

[last sleet]

oke

[humble tulip]

then it loaded the worlds properly

[analog vapor]

do you have minecraft open

[humble tulip]

no

[analog vapor]

oof

[analog vapor]

It did

[humble tulip]

what.. what's the issue?

[analog vapor]

breakable blocks dont break

[humble tulip]

send your config

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[fossil pike]

how do I make this run in java 11 instead of java 19?

ERROR code when trying to build the artefact:

Executing pre-compile tasks...
Running 'before' tasks
Checking sources
Parsing java… [spigot]
java: error: release version 19 not supported
Checking dependencies… [spigot]
Dependency analysis found 0 affected files
Errors occurred while compiling module 'spigot'
javac 17 was used to compile java sources
Finished, saving caches…
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Executing post-compile tasks...
Compilation failed: errors: 1; warnings: 0
Synchronizing output directories...
1/3/2023 12:14 PM - Build completed with 1 error and 0 warnings in 2 sec, 769 ms

Upon typing java --version, this is displayed in terminal:

PS C:\Users\King\Desktop\spigot> java --version
java 11.0.17 2022-10-18 LTS
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 18.9 (build 11.0.17+10-LTS-269)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 18.9 (build 11.0.17+10-LTS-269, mixed mode)
PS C:\Users\King\Desktop\spigot>

where it says runtime environment, is that whats running on MY machine?

because I JUST downloaded java 11, idk why its showing 18.9

[humble tulip]

is this in intellij?

[fossil pike]

yes sir

[humble tulip]

do ctrl+alt+shift+s

change the sdk to the one in your pom.xml

[analog vapor]

https://paste.md-5.net/yufeniyaho.php

[humble tulip]

https://paste.md-5.net/efafuyaqag.php

try this

[analog vapor]

Alright

can you boot minecraft?

[fossil pike]

https://imgur.com/a/v0rl6lA

dont have one call pom

[humble tulip]

do you use maven?

[remote swallow]

looks like intellij build system

[humble tulip]

change it to jdk 17 or 11

[tender shard]

when I only changed CraftWhatever classes in my CraftBukkit pull request, I do NOT have to run makePatches.sh right?

[humble tulip]

i don't think so since it's not mojang code

[humble tulip]

done

[analog vapor]

ok the server is starting

[tender shard]

doesn't load for me

[humble tulip]

ip?

[analog vapor]

hogwartsofBE.aternos.me

[analog vapor]

brb rq sorry moms calling

[fossil pike]

https://imgur.com/a/qHFUntl I switched it to SDK 11, still same error.

[tender shard]

why are you talking about griefprevention configs in help-dev lol

[tender shard]

upload it somewhere else pls, imgur is broken

some shitty geoblocking

[fossil pike]

lol one sec

let me try to copy image

[fossil pike]

that works

[remote swallow]

thats them

[humble tulip]

@fossil pike change your language level

[tender shard]

you cannot set language level to 19 when you use jdk 11

[fossil pike]

oh

[humble tulip]

Lol

[tender shard]

the language level must be equal or lower than the SDK you use

[fossil pike]

to what lol

oh ok

[tender shard]

the language level should be the same as you set in your pom.xml or build.gradle

[remote swallow]

they use intellij build sys lol

[humble tulip]

They don't use maven or gradle

[tender shard]

what the fuck

[humble tulip]

🤣

[tender shard]

I haven't seen that in a looong time

must have been months ago

switch to maven RIGHT NOW

or at least gradle

[fossil pike]

I'll be real honest, the only reason I even have intellij installed is because I'm trying to add a dependency to a single plugin that doesnt run on 1.15.2, but works on 1.8, 1.12, and 1.16. It should work fine in 1.15.2, but there isn't a dependency for it, that's why I'm here. just to add that dependency

i have no clue what gradle or maven are

[humble tulip]

lol

[fossil pike]

I can send someone the root and 5 bucks to do it for me lmao

im sick of this

[tender shard]

it's a build tool

it handles the dependencies like spigot-api

it automatically compiles your code and packages it

[quiet ice]

It's more difficult that just adding the dependency

[tender shard]

shades stuff when required

also who the heck uses 1.15.2 o0

[tender shard]

is it a free or paid plugin?

[fossil pike]

free

[tender shard]

spigot link?

[fossil pike]

dont got a spigot for it, but I got this https://mega.nz/file/Wc0ETQxD#-kw2gc3elB6gIryv97tiX_W5OulKkZY3dlWIETvrJeA

it's the plugin root

[remote swallow]

that just seems fishy

[fossil pike]

i just uploaded it myself

[crude estuary]

Still you shouldn't do that

[remote swallow]

what does the plugin actually do lol

[crude estuary]

People doesn't usually Feel Safe downloading a Jar From Mega

[fossil pike]

its a zip

not a jar

[crude estuary]

i missed Context

nvm

[remote swallow]

does that just add fake players

[fossil pike]

yep

[tender shard]

its just a zip with source code

[crude estuary]

then Perfectly Fine

thanks for the Context

[fossil pike]

🙂

[remote swallow]

you could use this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/fakeplayer.73139/ instead

[fossil pike]

its not good enough

I need this specific one to work

I've tried alternatives

this is the superior plugin

[tender shard]

probably would only take 10 minutes to update the nms packages

[fossil pike]

that would be great if you could help me out with that bro

you got paypal? I'll send you a few bucks

dm it

[alpine urchin]

i am the best man

for the job

[crude estuary]

xD

[alpine urchin]

is it open source

[remote swallow]

did you go to a wedding

[remote swallow]

no

[alpine urchin]

still

im a g

[tender shard]

sure, but lemme check the code first

[remote swallow]

this

[alpine urchin]

aaa

[tender shard]

first I gotta compile spigot 1.15.2

[alpine urchin]

pick mfnalex

ima go in my corner

[remote swallow]

does jefflib not have 1.15.2

[alpine urchin]

and cry

[tender shard]

no

1.16+

[crude estuary]

mfnalex does nms

[remote swallow]

ah

[crude estuary]

Likes Pain

[remote swallow]

fair

[tender shard]

btw spigot now supports java 19 lol

[alpine urchin]

i’ve gone so deep into nms

its all i know

[tender shard]

that plugin is using my updatechecker lol

[alpine urchin]

i know more nms than bukkit

[fossil pike]

what are the odds 😛

[thick oracle]

quick question: is it possible to get statistics from an offline player?

[remote swallow]

you have to read the file yourself

[fossil pike]

like server-stats?

[remote swallow]

i was trying to earlier lol

gave up lol

[fossil pike]

you should be able to

[remote swallow]

they probably mean code wise lol

[tender shard]

yes

[remote swallow]

you can get stats for an offline player just not via code

i was trying earlier

[thick oracle]

damn

guess I need a database then

[tender shard]

huh then why is it declared there

[remote swallow]

tf

[thick oracle]

that doesnt work properly

[remote swallow]

maybe it was 1.12 thing

[thick oracle]

for Statistic.ITEM_ENCHANTED I get 0, but the value is supposed to be 2

[remote swallow]

the next best option you have is parse the players stat json

world/stats/uuidString.json

currently i doubt that exists

you would have to use https://github.com/SpigotMC/XenforoResourceManagerAPI/ to get the data

idk how you would check when its been downloaded

[lethal knoll]

Yea Indeed

[daring elm]

anyone have a StartALL.sh i hate to start my server with Cd Path Typing .-.

[lethal knoll]

Sorry moved the question to the #verified channel

[lethal knoll]

If it doesn't exist, I'm open to create it for the community

[remote swallow]

for a dev server or a public facing one

[daring elm]

multiple servers start

[wet breach]

it should work o.O

[daring elm]

i have only 5
Bungee etc

[remote swallow]

guess it was 1.12 thign

[wet breach]

probably

[remote swallow]

windows or linux

[daring elm]

Linux bro

[wet breach]

fyi, you can start servers with a symlink

[remote swallow]

ah, no idea how to write linux ones

iirc you have to start it #!/usr/something
then can just type anything

@tender shard probably knows

[thick oracle]

then I must be doing something very wrong. I dont get the right value for Statistic.ITEM_ENCHANTED

[tender shard]

hm?

that's called a shebang

[wet breach]

what does it show?

[tender shard]

yeah ik

funny name

[wet breach]

not even sure what that statistic is even for

[thick oracle]

the amount of items you enchanted

[tender shard]

#!/usr/bin/env bash
java -jar myserver.jar

[wet breach]

what does it show for the stat and what is the expected?

[thick oracle]

supposed to be 1 currently. but returns 0

[wet breach]

did the server save the world when you checked?

[thick oracle]

yes

[wet breach]

interesting, what mc version?

[tender shard]

oh you wanna start all servers from different directories?

[thick oracle]

1.19.2

[wet breach]

wonder if it is a bug then or just overlooked in terms of fixing code for updated versions

[daring elm]

i try

#!/bin/bash

cd /home/minecraft/CityBuild/
screen -S -d CityBuild ./start.sh


cd /home/minecraft/BungeCord/
screen -S -d Proxie ./start.sh

cd /home/minecraft/Lobby/
screen -S -d Lobbie ./start.sh

[thick oracle]

currently checking some older code to see if I made any mistakes

[daring elm]

isnt work 🤔

[wet breach]

create a directory, place all the symlinks of the jars, then you don't have to do no cd

[tender shard]

#!/usr/bin/env bash

for server in CityBuild BungeeCord Lobby; do
  cd /home/minecraft/$server
  screen -S -d $server ./start.sh
done

[daring elm]

lol

Thanks

[wet breach]

also if you want to improved version of what I said

you can create a single symlink

and then tell it to run in a particular directory instead

thus only need a single jar with directories containing multiple configs instead

most people don't know that Java is happy to use a symlink

[daring elm]

for all Server

[wet breach]

symlink is the way I used to update like 20 servers by just replacing a single jar 🙂

[misty current]

what's the correct way to send an action bar message?

[wet breach]

pretty sure there is a method part of the player object to do such things

[misty current]

rn i'm using player.spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, TextComponent.fromLegacyText("hi")); but it's all deprecated

[wet breach]

probably don't want to use the method for legacy

[lethal knoll]

It's deprecated? didn't knew that

[misty current]

the sendmessage method itself id not

but ChatMessageType and TextComponent are

[tender shard]

did you exactly copy paste my script?

[lethal knoll]

Is there a known alternative?

[daring elm]

yes

[misty current]

that's what i was wondering

[vocal cloud]

Are you using paper?

[misty current]

i have both spigot and paper in my pom

[vocal cloud]

They've probably deprecated it

[misty current]

i have both because i don't know whether you can run buildtools on paper

so i just have spigot (not spigot's api) imported and paper's api

[wet breach]

the textcomponent method you are using is deprecated because the method you are using for it, is for legacy api stuff

ChatMessageType is not deprecated

[lethal knoll]

It does kinda make sense. I never understood why the text in the hotbar was classified as chat message

[misty current]

so what's the new way to do it?

[tardy delta]

tf is /usr/bin/env bash

[misty current]

most likely because the chat packet also includes the action bar

[lapis swan]

Hey, I know that you can use invisibel armor stands to create flying text but is this still state of the art if I need many of them that also move ? and is it possible to only show the text to some players ?

[remote swallow]

spigot implements spigot api

you dont need paper api in the project

[misty current]

i need paper's api for some things that are unique to paper

such as armor equip event

i rarely use paper's api and just import spigot but this time i need paper

[wet breach]

sorry Basecomponent is deprecated, and it is done so because it is mainly for internal classes. Currently I am not aware of a different way but it is deprecated because it is planned in the future to be changed or removed.

remember deprecated doesn't necessarily mean unusable

[lethal knoll]

No that is true, but deprecated means sooner or later, it will be removed

[misty current]

i'm aware but i was just wondering if there was an alternative since they've deprecated that stuff

i'll just use that then

thanks

[lethal knoll]

And as a developer you should be extra cautious when using it

[wet breach]

not true, some deprecations are purely to warn you about something as well

[misty current]

that's a bad way to use deprecation tho

[wet breach]

This is why you should read the javadocs

[wet breach]

know a better way to warn a developer about caveats ?

especially when most of those using the api are not very experienced to begin with and fail to read javadocs or even look at them

[remote swallow]

im pretty sure alex made a thing for that

[wet breach]

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot
BungeeCord: https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/api/target/apidocs/index.html
BungeeCord Chat: https://javadoc.io/doc/net.md-5/bungeecord-chat/latest/index.html

[hazy parrot]

What is the best way to intercept console output ? Tried adding custom java.util.logging.Handler, but it seems it doesn't intercept all messages

[wet breach]

you need to hook into Jansi to capture the output

[tender shard]

looks like your server folder is NOT exactly called "CityBuild"

but sth else

[lethal knoll]

Deprecation is a general term in the programming world. Whether you are a beginner or not, it's something you should know

[tender shard]

yes

[tender shard]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/arnuhs-armorequipevent.545188/

[wet breach]

in general just means should not be used, however it is also a good way to get someone's attention when you want to warn them about something. Seems to work as intended for said purposes because many people come here asking about another way to do something because of deprecation. Sadly it still hasn't made them actually read the javadocs to see why something was deprecated though

[misty current]

ah interesting

[wet breach]

As I said, deprecated for spigot doesn't necessarily mean unusuable

[hazy parrot]

Will look into that, thanks 👍

[lethal knoll]

Exctly, I cannot think of a better way to inform developers then using deprecation

[misty current]

i have used the discontinued plugin in the past

i've checked the javadoc and it says most stuff regarding components has been deprecated in favor of adventure's api

[remote swallow]

yeah

[lethal knoll]

However when something becomes deprecated, there should also be an alternative communicated on the docs (unless the functionality itself doesn't make any sense)

[remote swallow]

they did that when mini joined paper

[wet breach]

I can't say anything for the other api that isn't spigot

they are their own thing

[lethal knoll]

There used to be clear alternatives communicates on the spigot docs. Not quite sure why it's not there now

[wet breach]

its Jansi and Jline

or one of the two, can't remember but those two are responsible for basically console output

[lapis swan]

Any answer ? 🥺

[ivory sleet]

@Deprecated#forRemoval exists (:

Which, Spigot does not really take advantage of afaik

[lethal knoll]

Yes and usually with a date defined on when it's scheduled for removal

[tender shard]

but only since java 9 and bukkit is java 8 D:

[ivory sleet]

No date is not necessary

[remote swallow]

packets probably

[ivory sleet]

But usually you add a “since” also

[wet breach]

invisible armor stands is a lot better then using the horse age bug to get an invisible entity. So in regards to the first question, yes it is an improvement over the original way in how holograms worked.

[ivory sleet]

Yeah ;-;

[tender shard]

the best way are AreaEffectClouds

[lethal knoll]

It's not necessary , but it's possible

[tender shard]

but those only work for up to 48 blocks. Invisible armor stands work up to 64 blocks

[tender shard]

bukkit should bump to java 11 or 17

[ivory sleet]

Yeah, but its not a convention realy

If you want to commit to a date, sure add it

[tender shard]

11 would be nice since every distro and macOS have at least java 11 included, but not everyone has java 17 yet in the repos

[wet breach]

to show text to only specific players you need to work with packets, which is ideal for you anyways since you will have many armor stands and would make more sense to have fake invisible armor stands so you are not burdening the server with real entities for only text purposes lol

[ivory sleet]

Yea

[hazy parrot]

looks like its jline then because as i see jansi is just for parsing ansi codes, will try something rn, thanks

[lapis swan]

I knew the day would come where I have to deal with packages 😦
Any good example code anywhere ?

[tender shard]

why the heck did paper remove their api .jars from their repo for versions older than 1.17

[wet breach]

you could just use use API's people have created already

and not worry about NMS

[wet breach]

because they don't like outdated stuff

[wet breach]

you are welcome, I knew it was one of them hopefully that information furthers your goal in whatever it is you are trying to accomplish 🙂

[misty current]

packages are not packets :p

anyways it's not as bad as you think

[remote swallow]

use something like protocol lib

[wet breach]

especially when API's exist

like the one stated above

[misty current]

if i were to make holograms i'd use packets and AOE clouds instead of stands

[tender shard]

yeah I know but that's a shitty idea

[eternal night]

we did not

[tender shard]

huh

[eternal night]

different group id

[tender shard]

1.15.2 is not in the repo

oh

what's the group id

[wet breach]

why?

[eternal night]

com.destroytokio

[remote swallow]

paper weird

[misty current]

well unless you are on 1.8

[tender shard]

well I currently have to do sth for 1.15.2

[tender shard]

thxxx

[remote swallow]

oh was 1.17 when you changed from destroystokyo

[wet breach]

you could just build it yourself

[remote swallow]

its probably tokyo not tokio

[eternal night]

oh

yea

[wet breach]

pretty sure paper didn't remove all their patches

[eternal night]

[remote swallow]

when i know more about paper than the paper dev

[eternal night]

smh 😭

spelling is hard

[wet breach]

I don't even use paper

[eternal night]

kewl

[remote swallow]

i only use it as server ar

jar

fuck paper api

[wet breach]

ironically I am part of their discord, only am just to really keep tabs on the progress of it

[remote swallow]

to do what

[tender shard]

same

[tender shard]

yeah lol

[quaint mantle]

hello, could someone explain to me, why this is not working?

        AttributeModifier attributeModifier = new AttributeModifier(UUID.randomUUID(), "gak",
                5.0, AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER, EquipmentSlot.HAND);

        itemMeta.addAttributeModifier(Attribute.GENERIC_ATTACK_KNOCKBACK, attributeModifier);

[remote swallow]

no

get out

go to paper

[eternal night]

Well cool kids just PR paper patches to spigot

[wet breach]

spigot has components?

[remote swallow]

meh

[eternal night]

LOL

[tender shard]

paper be like

[remote swallow]

not really

[tender shard]

i added some of the getTranslationKey methods today, let's see if it gets merged lol

[wet breach]

to do what?

[eternal night]

I saw that

[remote swallow]

i will give you adventure components are better than bungee ones

[wet breach]

superior in what way?

[tender shard]

what's sus?

[wet breach]

not sure how you can get more superior then a string

you can't understand a string?

[tender shard]

I had the translation key methods in my lib before I even knew that paper has it builtin https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib

[remote swallow]

i fucking hate using minimessages format

[molten hearth]

its too verbose

[remote swallow]

MiniMessage.minimessage().desterilize

fuck that

[wet breach]

also, what is hard in customizing a string?

[eternal night]

strings don't fully represent the entire possibility of a component

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tender shard]

i made oystermessage, so people can use either legacy codes, or minimessage - in one string

[eternal night]

well

[remote swallow]

give me a MiniMessage.desterilise

[eternal night]

legacy strings don't

[tender shard]

that exists

[remote swallow]

i remember you gave me the link

i just couldnt understand it

so i made my own

[tender shard]

fair enough, I never wrote any docs

[remote swallow]

its like 6 lines total lol

[patent reef]

Hi can i somehow in residence make that people cant use commands like /spawn ?

[wet breach]

sure

[remote swallow]

public static final LegacyComponentSerializer SERIALIZER = LegacyComponentSerializer.builder().character('&')
            .hexCharacter('#').hexColors().useUnusualXRepeatedCharacterHexFormat().build();

    public static String translate(String toTranslate) {
        return (ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', SERIALIZER.serialize(MiniMessage.miniMessage().deserialize(toTranslate))));
    }

[remote swallow]

what plugin

[lapis swan]

AOE Clouds can get text assigned ? Probably the same procedure as for Armor stands ?

[wet breach]

I should probably extend my hex compressor to mc

[patent reef]

residence

[tender shard]

I hate that they call it "unusualXrepeatedCharacterHexFormat

IT'S THE DEFAULT FORMAT FFS

[remote swallow]

yes

[eternal night]

it isn't lol

its spigot added

[tender shard]

yeah same for the general &ccolors

[eternal night]

no

the client speaks those

[tender shard]

no the client speaks § law

[eternal night]

well & is never used

[remote swallow]

ah, its paid i doubt many people here would know. Best to ask on the discussion page for the plugin

[eternal night]

you always translate colour codes

[tender shard]

& is used in every config.yml

[eternal night]

as a community standard on top

not as a default from anywhere

[tender shard]

I don't think the &x&1&2&3&4&5&6 thing is unusual, since it works with EVERY plugin that does translateAlternateColorCodes, so it even works with plugins pre 1.16 that never knew hex colors will be a thing

that's why I would not call it "unusual" but rather the default spigot way

[wet breach]

because it makes it easier on users since you know keyboards don't have those characters on a key somewhere, and it helps developers because Java does funny things with native utf characters and what not

[eternal night]

the §x format does not work because of translate alternate colour code lol

spigot on top jumps places to make those work

[molten hearth]

why would you even use § over &

[eternal night]

because players cannot use §

hence that is what minecraft speaks

[wet breach]

translatealternatecode is a super old method and was created by the original devs for the purpose I stated above.

[tender shard]

client doesn't let you enter §

to keep players happy instead of being harrassed with law speak

[eternal night]

if only there was like

a nice format 😭

maybe json based

[tender shard]

huh how does it work then? you got any class name in your head where I could look into out of curiosity? 😄

you can type anything with every keyboard

‰

[eternal night]

CraftChatMessage

[tender shard]

Ž

Ó

Û

I don't know the alt code for that

wait

[wet breach]

One day, we will have a cleaned up MC version

[tender shard]

yes

[hazy parrot]

There is

[vale ember]

why not %color_name% instead of color codes?

[tender shard]

keep pressing alt, then enter "0137" on your keypad, then release alt

then you got ‰

[wet breach]

the alt code for it is alt + 0189

[tender shard]

vanilla invented these color codes

½

0189

[vale ember]

yeah i mean in plugin configs, instead of & color codes, %color_names%

[remote swallow]

that would be too confusing imo

[vale ember]

is %red%Hello confusing?

[tender shard]

yeah I just wanted to say, people are used to do &c for red, because spigot always used it, because vanilla used to do it like this

[wet breach]

technically your keyboard is

[remote swallow]

what about placeholders

<red>

is better

[molten hearth]

cring

[remote swallow]

minimessage in writing is cool

but using it i fucking hate

[wet breach]

just your keyboard gives you a more stream lined way to input those things

[tender shard]

{"color":"red","text":"Hello"}

admins love json

[quaint mantle]

Why?

[tender shard]

<span style="color: red;">Hello</span>

[remote swallow]

well without my lib i should say

[molten hearth]

btuh

[wet breach]

I typically see kids being the ones that misuse json and typically love javascript

[remote swallow]

it takes forever to type, i have to convert these components to strings and all that

[tender shard]

because they never get any compile errors with JS lol

[molten hearth]

who needs compile errors

just compile and throw errors later 😎

[tender shard]

i just throw everything into their PDC

[quaint mantle]

If you use adventure platform you shouldn't need to convert to string, even with spigot api

[wet breach]

yeah because who needs errors to say you are doing something wrong, it should compile anyways even if it is wrong which JS does exactly that 😄

[remote swallow]

spigot api still uses strings

[tender shard]

save it in a structure

[remote swallow]

paper uses components

[tender shard]

yeah, future me should have to deal with it, duh

[wet breach]

lol

[lapis swan]

what is the PDC?

[tender shard]

Persistent Data Container

[remote swallow]

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[eternal night]

https://docs.papermc.io/paper/dev/pdc

[remote swallow]

get out

[eternal night]

new trick to just link paper docs

[tender shard]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/persistent-data-container-the-better-alternative-to-nbt-tags/

[quaint mantle]

Which is why you use adventure platform to handle that for you

[tender shard]

three links, should be enough lol

[remote swallow]

pdc is still saved in nbt just easier to access

[wet breach]

4 if you want to link them to the NBT structure stuff

[tender shard]

since when does Structure iumplement PDH?

[wet breach]

to over generalize it yes

[molten hearth]

yes use the adventure platform

then use LegacyComponentSerializer

💯

[tender shard]

PersistentDataHolder

the thing that declares the getPDC method

[wet breach]

shouldn't that be PDH then?

not PHD?

[molten hearth]

PHD in PDH

[tender shard]

typo

[wet breach]

in like a doctorate

[tender shard]

wait

[molten hearth]

lmao

[tender shard]

I wrote PDH

I wrote it correct

[quaint mantle]

entire point of platform is that you don't need to do that

[tender shard]

i might be stupid, but at least I don't have a PHD

[quaint mantle]

you just get an audience from the player and just call sendMessage (or other methods), platform does the rest

[molten hearth]

but its too good

i just gotta

[wet breach]

that is exactly what someone of the lesser kind would say

[tender shard]

can't you usually store the audience the whole time?

oh no wait I'm confusing it

[remote swallow]

that is still more work than just using my lib and the legacy serializer

[molten hearth]

tbh I use adventure but I never used the audiences feature or anything

seems like effort

[quaint mantle]

Not really

[tender shard]

well in germany it's kinda an inside joke at universities

[lapis swan]

Thanks for the links but this answer describes it best 😄

[tender shard]

PHD is doctor for philosophy here and many people claim it's not a proper science

[molten hearth]

lmao

[remote swallow]

instead of just Formatting.translate i would have to get audience from my player instance, serialize the minimessages text

ect

[wet breach]

is that the only thing Germany provides PHD's in ?

[molten hearth]

me after getting my phd in gender studies: 🤑

[tender shard]

what even is a PHD?

[molten hearth]

(hmm yes the woman is womaning)

[tender shard]

phd is definitely always doctor of philosophy in germany

[quaint mantle]

player(myPlayer).sendMessage(deserialize("<rainbow>Hello world"))
``` (assuming you have static imports :))

[molten hearth]

looks wonderful

truly dont see a problem

[tender shard]

yeah it's also "Hello, where can I compile the latest version of Spigot to use on my server?" instead of "help craftbukkit download 1.8.8 where"

[remote swallow]

myPlayer.sendMessage(Formatting.translate("<rainbow>Hello World")

[wet breach]

in the US we refer to doctorate degrees as PHD's not just for you know Doctor of Philosophy

[remote swallow]

much easier

[tender shard]

we just call that a "doctor"

you can be a doctor in law, in medicine, in ...

what does PHD stand for?

[molten hearth]

doctor in cooking

😈

[wet breach]

What you said, we just don't care and apply it for everything

[quaint mantle]

yeah and now use a translatable

or a keybind

or any chat feature not from 2012

[remote swallow]

dont need to

[tender shard]

Dr. med Dentist

I mean what the english PHD means

[remote swallow]

if i need translations ill just steal alexs code

[wet breach]

most here don't care about anything that is old

[tender shard]

wtf it really only means doctor i nphilophy in english too, why do guys call every academic grade a PHD lmao

that makes so much... NOT sense

[molten hearth]

because they are all philosophers in their fields

[wet breach]

It means the same thing, but we typically just use it to generally refer to doctorate and not really the actual thing it means because it is easier then calling everyone a doctor when they are not medical doctors because you know the pleebs in the US have a real hard time understanding the differences

[molten hearth]

(I have no idea)

[tender shard]

lol

yeah okay true, you only have the word "doctor" to refer to people who treat you in hospitals

[quaint mantle]

if you're not making a public plugin, sure

[tender shard]

we have a separate word for that

which one

[molten hearth]

someone with a phd is a doctor

pretty sure

[wet breach]

We established this already

[remote swallow]

when would i need keybinds in most plugins, and for translations i would just change all plugin messages

[tender shard]

a doctor in philosophy

I just checked

[molten hearth]

yeah but they're stil Dr. XYZ

even if they're skill issued in the ways of medicine

[tender shard]

yeah but a neurologist is a doctor and the nurse isn't exactly a "real doctor" lol

[molten hearth]

you dont call them Dr. in philosophy XYZ

[wet breach]

a nurse is not a doctor

[molten hearth]

and copilots are not pilots

https://tenor.com/view/notsure500-gif-22059086

[tender shard]

but don't tell my boyfriend that I said this, he's a nurse

[tender shard]

they aaaare

[wet breach]

ok, but a co-pilot can still fly a plane, a nurse can not do anything remotely the same as a doctor

[molten hearth]

😂

[quaint mantle]

How do I connect two plugins into one?

[tender shard]

yeah sure, but yo uknew exactly what I meant

[remote swallow]

why would you do this

[tender shard]

in germany we have two words - Arzt, as in medical doctor, and Doktor, which is EVERY kind of doctor. it can be a medical doctor, or a doctor in law, whatever

[remote swallow]

just add the 2 plugins

[wet breach]

point is the average person in the US only understands that when you say doctor they automatically think a doctor for medical stuff

[lethal knoll]

Include the child as a dependency in the plugin.yml. Make one or more classes that can be reached from the other plugin

[wet breach]

and typically don't understand that is what you call someone with a doctorates

[tender shard]

yeah IIRC you also call teachers in highschool "professor" even though they aren't professors

[molten hearth]

i had a biology teacher called Dr. Iforgot and everyone assumed she was a real doctor

[wet breach]

in the US we do not

[molten hearth]

turned out she wasnt she just had a phd

[wet breach]

unless they really are a professor

[tender shard]

oh okay, I've seen this in many movies

[molten hearth]

omw to call my german friend working in kindergarten a professor

[tender shard]

you even call your neighbour by lastname in germany

[wet breach]

its very rare to have a professor that teaches at a high school

[tender shard]

unless you know them very well

it's shitty, yes

thanks SPD

[wet breach]

we do that here if you are from the country side and referring to an entire family or you are being very formal

[tender shard]

every german state has their own abitur (highest graduation you can achieve in normal school)

[molten hearth]

breh

[tender shard]

abitur is like A levels I guess

[molten hearth]

over here you just get a high school diploma and then a bachelor then a master then a phd

[wet breach]

I am curious though what the German high social class is like

[tender shard]

I only have my abitur and two STAATSEXAMEN (state exams) in law

[wet breach]

like how they act and talk etc

[molten hearth]

staat sex men

😈

[lavish hemlock]

sexy men

[molten hearth]

amen

[lavish hemlock]

😏

[tender shard]

not very different from any other person

they usually also just live in normal houses like these

they drive an expensive bmw or mercedes

[molten hearth]

looks like an average house

[tender shard]

that's what I said

[molten hearth]

oh yeah

dang

[tender shard]

the difference is:

[molten hearth]

does germany have a housing problem or smth

[tender shard]

average person only rents one apartment in of those houses

[molten hearth]

oh

[tender shard]

the rich people own the full house lol

[wet breach]

this is not a normal

house

[molten hearth]

that is a normal house in europe

[tender shard]

that's like 500 meters away from my place

in münster that's definitely one of the more expensive houses

[molten hearth]

i dont get how americans can afford those big ahh houses thats prolly like 200k here

[wet breach]

that create sextain's

[tender shard]

this is my street

[molten hearth]

bro lives in detroit

[lavish hemlock]

looks like britain

[remote swallow]

yes it

does

i wound know

[tender shard]

nah my city is beautiful, google "Münster NRW"

[wet breach]

We had a 5k square foot house before. It was quite nice, then we sold it for like 1.3 mil

[molten hearth]

it actually looks nice

[lapis swan]

Is a pdc faster than a database connection 🤔 would using them async be an option ? 🫣

[molten hearth]

damn lol

[tender shard]

the westphalian treaty of peace was signed in my city like 500 years ago lol

[molten hearth]

yeah idk every time I see pictures of US houses I'm like damn, you get it so nice

[tender shard]

it ended the 100 year war

[lapis swan]

A chest with all player data my plugin need 😄

[molten hearth]

I lived in the UK and people just had these small ass houses stuck to each other

[ivory sleet]

With PDC you don’t introduce any notion of async

[molten hearth]

its very similar in France

[remote swallow]

not all are small

[ivory sleet]

And it is probably faster

But less scalable than a proper database

[molten hearth]

i'd hate to live in a house attached to someone else's

[tender shard]

but the walls are cardboard and the next supermarket is 12 miles away

[molten hearth]

stuff like this

[remote swallow]

i live in a house not connected to anyone

[molten hearth]

was what I saw in the UK

[remote swallow]

in the uk

that is quite large

[molten hearth]

fuckin terrible

[remote swallow]

you went to tourist areas then

[molten hearth]

glorified apartment block

[remote swallow]

villages are not like that

[molten hearth]

uh no I lived there lol

[remote swallow]

i live in a place with mostly semi detached houses

[molten hearth]

I lived here at some point

[tender shard]

I found a pic of my former school

the one in the back, in the forests

[remote swallow]

you lived in a council estate

[lapis swan]

couldn't you just set them in a async runnabel ?
Isn't doing stuff async always better ?

[wet breach]

there is like a handful of states where most people can't afford houses like that and most who appear that do are actually only renting them and don't own them. Second, those who do own those houses or bought one it takes 2 people's incomes with decent jobs to actually get approved for any kind of mortage above 300k. In the US mortages are typically set for to be paid over a period of 30 years.

[molten hearth]

idk I guess the whole city was a council estate

[ivory sleet]

Think that could introduce concurrency updating issues

[molten hearth]

oof

[ivory sleet]

Since it is not assumed of api consumers to call the api in asynchronous manners

[wet breach]

just go with threading

threads solve all the problems 😉