help-development

[harsh totem]

💀

[vague swallow]

I'm german

[remote swallow]

only correct reaction

[quiet ice]

Well for your issue I do know the lingo

[vague swallow]

do you know why that is?

[quiet ice]

No.

How should I even?

[tender shard]

Your build.gradle.kts does not work. it's not relocating JeffLib. It's still inside com.jeff_media

https://paste.md-5.net/cumikozoju.makefile

[quiet ice]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[vale ember]

Correct. Because you only include internals/nms in relocation

[vague swallow]

p.setDisplayName();
p.setPlayerProfile();

[vale ember]

Remove include line if you want all lib to be relocated

And exclude nms from minimize

[tender shard]

and how can I relocate all of those without declaring it twice?

[quiet ice]

latter does not exist

[remote swallow]

if you are handling anywhere it would be needed it would

[quiet ice]

However https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/profile/PlayerProfile.html#setTextures(org.bukkit.profile.PlayerTextures) does, but I have never done it myself

[remote swallow]

it would be less hard to impl for other things maybe

like chat

[tender shard]

I mean obviously I wanted to relocate the whole lib, not just part of it lol

[remote swallow]

tab

ect

[quiet ice]

Yeah, I don't know if it is possible or not, but it might be

[vale ember]

plugins {
    id("com.github.johnrengelman.shadow") version "7.1.2"
    java
}

repositories {
    maven("https://hub.jeff-media.com/nexus/repository/jeff-media-public/")
}

dependencies {
    implementation("com.jeff_media:JeffLib:12.0.0")
}

tasks.shadowJar {
    relocate("com.jeff_media.jefflib", "me.username.jefflib")
    minimize {

        exclude("com/jeff_media/jefflib/internal/nms/**")
    }
}
``|

[quiet ice]

setTextures does look nice though

The question is whether the update will be sent to other players

[remote swallow]

i do fine the use of kotlin in this very pointless

[quiet ice]

Didn't we have that exact issue a few months ago?

[tender shard]

thx! only took 2 weeks until someone knew the solution lmao

[vale ember]

No problem

[remote swallow]

you can probably do that without the kotlin part

[vague swallow]

but do you have any idea what I can do to prevent this?

[vale ember]

Yeah groovy will work too

[tender shard]

if gradle would just use xml, I might switch. I hate the idea of writing scripts to simply declare stuff

[remote swallow]

i think the main point of gradle is to not use xml

[tender shard]

yeah maybe that's why so many people dislike it

[vale ember]

Yeah exactly

[remote swallow]

i like not having to type 300 different tags to add one plugin

[tender shard]

don't you have an idea that auto-completes it?

[remote swallow]

most of the time it didnt

[tender shard]

I literally only typed <p and javadoc

[remote swallow]

alex you should get wakatime

[remote swallow]

thats a thing?

[tender shard]

why would that not work lol

I mean it's intelliJ and not notepad

[quiet ice]

No. How should Iß

[remote swallow]

because that doesnt follow any formatting stuff

[tender shard]

which formatting stuff?

i dont get it

[quiet ice]

What do you think

<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 https://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd">

is for?

[remote swallow]

i would have expected the plugin to appear if you type the group or artifact id

not just typing the plugin name

[quiet ice]

That provides the format of the XML in an standarised format so ANY IDE can auto-complete it

[tender shard]

you can just put it inside <plugin> and IJ knows whats up

[quiet ice]

M2eclipse also does that for dependencies you have in your mavenLocal. Super easy to implement since it is basically just scanning mavenLocal for plugins and other dependencies

[remote swallow]

damn

[tender shard]

somehow it's a bit different for dependencies

[remote swallow]

that one makes sense

[quiet ice]

Meanwhile in eclipse world

Fucking discord

[remote swallow]

discord doesnt like .mkv

[runic needle]

Looking for developer java bukkkit with experience in prision plugins
msg-me
😄

[remote swallow]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[remote swallow]

thats pretty cool

cant lie

[quiet ice]

Here, mp4

[remote swallow]

the maven dep we have in intellij

nothing special

[quiet ice]

No, DM first and give me a 3 figure hourly wage

Industry standard, y'know

And considering the state of prison plugins I'd expect a very high 3 figure wage. Perhaps even 4 figure

Morally incorrect jobs pay very large sums of money

[remote swallow]

do you ever just get bored so want to code things you will most likely never use

like now i want to code a prison server that im never gonna use

[quiet ice]

That pretty much sums up everything I do

Okay, well - perhaps half of the Starloader suite is used by me. But the rest of all things I've written is pretty much never used by myself

[remote swallow]

ive wrote in total like 10 plugins that have been on servers that were used

[quiet ice]

The only plugin of mine that is used in a production-scale setting is EnchantmentsPlus - and even that is debatable considering that it is a fork

[remote swallow]

ive got 1 plugin on spigot that doesnt work

i was updating it earlier but stopped

because idk

im working on another plugin that would go on spigot

it might actually get used

[quiet ice]

There's also EasyConomyAdvanced that is on spigot - but that is also a fork.
Then there is Presence but that one is defo not used due to it only being present on the paper forums and github

[summer agate]

I've got three or four plugins depending on how you count, though only one is used by more that one server which also happens to be a fork

[frank kettle]

is there any proper thread explaining on how to make custom "images" on maps using urls?

i tried searching but couldn't find any thread talking about it properly on how it works

[quiet ice]

Just render the URL on the map?

The client won't download any URLs by itself - so the server would need to do it

[summer agate]

The plugin would have to get the image, resize the image to a proper size, translate the image to blocks(is there a way for this effectively?) and then put those blocks on a map

[frank kettle]

but how to create this custom "map" tho? 🤔 never touched maps thats why im asking for some thread explaining it

[summer agate]

This might be helpful (basically what you want https://github.com/zDevelopers/ImageOnMap)

Found this too: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/tutorial-maps.136533/

[quiet ice]

Without using OpenGL I'd not touch image drawing even with a giant pole.
And since I have no idea about how to use OpenGL I'd not touch it at all. But for pre-rendered images OpenGL is not needed I guess

[frank kettle]

thank you a lot, i'm looking into it

[misty current]

can you execute code when a plugin is loaded before its onEnable method is called?

[ivory sleet]

Yes

Static initializer, initializer or nullary constructor

[remote swallow]

couldnt onLoad also be used

that triggers somewhat before onEnable

[ivory sleet]

Myea

[misty current]

oh i haven't specified, i can't modify the class

i'm tryna patch a plugin that doesn't work in modern versions

and I need to write a field before it's loaded

sadly the plugin is not open source

[ivory sleet]

Sure

Just do it in onLoad as epicebic suggested

[misty current]

aight thanks

[crystal palm]

as you can see, i saved 2 players, both having 2 points. however, when i open up the .db file (or just.. rejoin the server), it shows the points as "1".
here's the autosaver. https://bin.birdflop.com/laqibomopa.java

i am losing my sanity 💀

[quiet ice]

Recaf :)

[tender shard]

ugh how do I add a repository to a groovy build.gradle? somehow the docs don't meantion this at all in their "Learning the basics"

oh wrong reply

[remote swallow]

one moment

[tender shard]

I hate it that it's not possible to remove the "replied to"

[misty current]

lol i was like what

[misty current]

is that a bytecode editor?

can I just modify a loaded class with it?

at runtime

[remote swallow]

maven {
  name 'name'
  url 'url'
}

[quiet ice]

Bytecode editor, yeah

[remote swallow]

or just

maven { url = 'url' } 

[quiet ice]

But it does not work at runtime - you can't modify a class at runtime without javaagents (which we have no access to)

[remote swallow]

if you need to specify java version use something like sourceCompatibility = targetCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_16

[tender shard]

hm in kotlin one can just do maven("url")

why is groovy so much longer lol

thx

[remote swallow]

no clue

i like it more tbh

also i thought there dep stuff was maven{ uri = "url"}

[misty current]

ah so i can basically manipulate the jar

also why do we not have access to javaagents

[quiet ice]

There is also the UnsafeValues#processTask hack which you could use to modify classes at runtime, but that does not work in your space

[remote swallow]

what does maven/gradle even have names for repos for

[misty current]

(btw i have no idea what those are)

[quiet ice]

They need to be defined through jvm arguments

[remote swallow]

oh yeah, if you need maven local or central add mavenLocal() or mavenCentral() to the repo section

[crystal palm]

bomp

[misty current]

ah i see

anyways pretty interesting, thanks

[tender shard]

yep I already figured that

I'm just trying to convert some projects to gradle for fun and it's a pain lol

[remote swallow]

lol

the one thing i dont like about gradle is its multi module

its quite jank

[tender shard]

i also never understand why some things are

  this = "sth"
}

while others are simply likethis("sth")

[remote swallow]

yeah

[lapis belfry]

EpicEbic

[remote swallow]

yo

[lapis belfry]

It's fixed now

[remote swallow]

nice

[lapis belfry]

I saw auto kick player in config files so i set it to false

[remote swallow]

normally the better thing to do for anticheats

[lapis belfry]

It's very good, my friend and i tested it

[crystal palm]

ok last bump. im still not sure why this wont work and its driving me insane now. same implem works fine in another plugin.

[remote swallow]

print points and see if its 1 before being set in the db

[crystal palm]

thats what i did in the image?

its 2.

[lapis belfry]

EpicEbic

[remote swallow]

yo

[crystal palm]

the value b4 the uuid shows the points that said uuid has.

[remote swallow]

oh i didnt see the photo

ive got no idea what might cause that lol

[crystal palm]

:suicidal:

seriously? no custom emojis?

bleh

[remote swallow]

custom emotes are booster perk lol

[crystal palm]

lame.

[remote swallow]

yeah

[lapis belfry]

Is there any plugin that help us to connect minecraft server to discord (except DiscordSrv, EssentialsDiscord)
Like for bot
!stats %player%
Execute in discord:
IGN: %player%
Rank: %uperms_prefix%
Kills: %kills%
Deaths: %deaths%

[remote swallow]

i dont know of any that might do that

i can probably write something that could do that

[lapis belfry]

i need discord Placeholders for it

[remote swallow]

do you use essentials discord or discordsrv?

[lapis belfry]

in mc it's %player% and idk tbh discord

[remote swallow]

or want it on a separate discord bot

[lapis belfry]

Separate

But I'm going to setup DiscordSrv tomorrow if it doesn't work

[crystal palm]

ok it has to be because a row is already set, right?

so.. update is required instead of insert???

[remote swallow]

i think so

its been a while since i touched sql lol

[crystal palm]

oh wait

isnt it

REPLACE INTO

[ivory sleet]

A thats a closure

A special type of function argument

Sort of

[crystal palm]

or maybe UPDATE OR INSERT instead of INSERT OR IGNORE

[remote swallow]

alr, if you want me to hook into discordsrv when you use it to use that discord bot instead i can. Ill send you a dm when i should have a working plugin that can do that for you

[crystal palm]

or maybe.. all 3 at once 💀 time to tryitandsee

[lapis belfry]

k. Ima go now it's 12am+ rn

[tender shard]

okay so is there any difference between groovy and kotlin besides the syntax? Is one better than the other? Because I really wanna try switching to maven but now I don't even know which lang to choose lol

[ivory sleet]

The best thing about kotlinscript is the additional ide support

And since yk

Kotlin is statically and strongly typed

[tender shard]

when I googled "kotlin vs groovy" then only things that come up are guides on how to switch from groovy to kotlin lol

so seems like it indeed is better

[tender shard]

yeah ik that

[quaint mantle]

Kotlin is better

[tender shard]

I just thought maybe groovy has at least ONE advantage

lol

[ivory sleet]

Well, you dont need kotlin if u use groovy

Thats the advantage ig

[tender shard]

well I don't like kotlin but groovy seems even worse

[ivory sleet]

It is

Well

If you hate weakly, dynamically typed languages

Then yes

And the second hand ide support

[tender shard]

yeah Ill go for kotlin, thx

[ivory sleet]

Epic epic

Wise choice

[tender shard]

unfortunately gradle init seems broken

I mean

[ivory sleet]

Its far from perfect

[tender shard]

what's the last question?

lol

[ivory sleet]

Lol what the

[crystal palm]

it worked!

[tender shard]

ok I got it to work to show the full question

what should I choose?

[remote swallow]

depends

would you need to use them

[tender shard]

on what?

plugin!

[remote swallow]

this

[tender shard]

use what?

[remote swallow]

the features that might come

[tender shard]

I don't know lmao, how would I know that before they get released

maybe

[remote swallow]

fair

[tender shard]

I mean in maven I ofc can always use new features when they come

[remote swallow]

does 1.12 support java 11

[tender shard]

so I guess I wana choose yes

[wary kettle]

    private Block breakInfinite(Block initialBlock, Material type) {
        for (final BlockFace loopFace : BlockFace.values()) {
            Block loopBlock = initialBlock.getRelative(loopFace);
            if (loopBlock.getType() == type) {
                loopBlock.breakNaturally();
                return loopBlock;
            }
        }
        return initialBlock;
    }



        int f = 0;
    while (f < 20) {
        testBlock = breakInfinite(testBlock, Material.COAL_ORE);
        f++;
    }

Can someone spot why my loop breaks when looping south

idk what happened to the formatting on discord but yeah

it works correctly except when going south

[tender shard]

what is it supposed to do?

[frank kettle]

oh wow, making maps with custom images is so easy, thought i would need to send packets to players or so 😂

[wary kettle]

break connected blocks until theres no more of that type thats connected

[eternal oxide]

looks like it checks every block around an origin for a coal and breaks it

20 times

[tardy delta]

^^

[eternal oxide]

if you run out of coal it will hang in your while loop

[tardy delta]

you'd have to change the loopBlock if you want it to look further than the blocks around that initial block

[wary kettle]

I do

the method returns the new block

and runs again on that new block

[tardy delta]

isnt there also a BlockFace.SELF?

[wary kettle]

it works correctly just only breaks when it goes in the direction BlockFace.SOUTH

im not sure why

[tender shard]

wow IJ's new UI is so ugly

it claim to use less space but it uses more

[tardy delta]

its thicc

but i like thicc

[upper plover]

what is the server ip

[tardy delta]

🤔

another idiot who thinks this is a mc server

[dusk flicker]

0.0.0.0

thats the server

[wary kettle]

https://gyazo.com/48c7cb2ed233774a85fad1a9a2bc08be

[tender shard]

am I stupid or does the "new ui" use more space instead of less? I mean all it does is remove a bunch of buttons and make the text larger, like wtf

[hardy garnet]

Are you guys familiar with world creation with spigot?

[wary kettle]

https://gyazo.com/9d256fd9d9c82a25a3d850ef08895047

[dusk flicker]

the new ui is horrible

[tender shard]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[wary kettle]

The first gif is breaking blocks going north

the 2nd gif is breaking blocks going south

idk why it stops when going south

[tardy delta]

clearly more

[dusk flicker]

Alex the new ui in your video is different from what I see

[hardy garnet]

So, I need to load a world from memory every 24 hours. Doing this takes quite a bit of time. This blocks the main thread for a long time which is annoying. I was wondering if there is anything I can do to speed this up, or stop it blocking the main thread entirely

[tardy delta]

my os doesnt want to me to code

[tender shard]

yeah ofc it's different. it has a different color and larger text

[dusk flicker]

Is it like a survival world or minigames?

[wary kettle]

anyone got a clue on my issue

[tender shard]

so basically it's the opposite of what they promised

[dusk flicker]

oh mine actually looks different today than yesterday. Today it looks like your video; yesterday it was like all icons and no text for the sidebars and stuff

[tardy delta]

i think it looks better than the old one

if i could only open ij 💀

have to open it from the app store cuz my pc crashed and stuff is behaving weird

discord blocking my screen 💀

[tender shard]

does anyone know why gradle complains about the "api" dependencies?

[tardy delta]

ok looks fresh doesnt it?

[chrome beacon]

You need to add the java or java-library plugin I believe

[tender shard]

I got the java plugin

[chrome beacon]

Add the java library

https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/java_library_plugin.html

[tender shard]

thx. weird, gradle init auto created the file

[hardy garnet]

Okay, so changing region files while a world is loaded always ends badly correct?

[chrome beacon]

Yeah

Don't do that

[hardy garnet]

I'm not an idiot. Well actually I am and I've seen what happens if I do that

but that was a few days ago

I was wondering if there would still be issues if I ensured no chunks in the world were loaded when changing the region files

[chrome beacon]

Why do you need to modify the region file

[hardy garnet]

Basically, I have a world (world a) people are building in. Like 3k by 3k map right?

and for 1 hour I want them to go over to map B, which is identical to A

and I want them to be able to grief B as much as they want

and then go back to A, which does not have any of those changes

[chrome beacon]

To ensure the world is in a safe state I would unload both of them and move all players to a 3rd world

then copy the world and load it

and move players there

[tender shard]

can someone explain to me the difference between "implementation" and "api" in gradle? I don't really get it. I just wanna shade JDA, SnakeYAML and similar stuff. Should I use api for that, or implementation?

[remote swallow]

impl for jda is pretty much all i know

no idea what the difference is

because you also have compileOnly

[tender shard]

"gradle init" converted all my maven "compile" dependencies into "api"

in maven I simply think "do I have to shade it?" and when yes, I choose compile, otherwise provided. So what's the equivalents for that in gradle?

[chrome beacon]

Use implementation

[hardy garnet]

I just realized something. I have been trying to do all this world switching stuff, when in reality the solution is much easier

fml

[tender shard]

from what I know
maven compile = gradle implementation
maven provided = gradle compileOnly
BUt what does api then mean?

[chrome beacon]

Dependencies appearing in the api configurations will be transitively exposed to consumers of the library, and as such will appear on the compile classpath of consumers. Dependencies found in the implementation configuration will, on the other hand, not be exposed to consumers, and therefore not leak into the consumers' compile classpath.

[tender shard]

yeah I don't get hat

[quiet ice]

maven provided = gradle compileOnlyApi
maven compile = gradle api

[remote swallow]

i found

[quiet ice]

implementation and compileOnly do not exist in maven

[tender shard]

thx so I'mma use that?

[quiet ice]

The api part means that the dependency will be looked up too as a transitive dependency

[tender shard]

another question: why are backticks in plugin names only sometimes required?

like why does java not require them, but java-library does?

[quiet ice]

likely due to dashes

[tender shard]

ah ok

[quiet ice]

Syntax bullshit I'd say

[tender shard]

ughm what

I simply want to shade snakeyaml and use lombok

in maven I used provided for lombok and compile for snakeyaml

[remote swallow]

use the gradle lombok plugin

id "io.freefair.lombok" version "6.6-rc1"

[tender shard]

huh why that

[remote swallow]

no clue

it exists

[tender shard]

on their website they claim to do it like this:

[quiet ice]

Assume mylib has mydep as a dependency and myplugin has mylib as a dependency. If you use api or compileOnlyApi to declare mydep then mydep will be visible on the classpath of myplugin - however that is not the case for compileOnly or implementation

[tender shard]

oh wait you are right

I missed the plugin part

[remote swallow]

lol

[tender shard]

can we please use the actual names, otherwise I won't get it

I have a standalone app and I want to shade snakeyaml

what scope should snakeyaml have?

[quiet ice]

api or implementation

[tender shard]

which one

[quiet ice]

It depends on whether you want it to be a transitive dependency or not

[tender shard]

I don't know

I just want to shade it into my jar

so I can use it

lmao

[quiet ice]

Then either will do the job

[tender shard]

yeah but I wanna know what the "proper" way would be

[quiet ice]

I recommend api if you have no clue

[tender shard]

okay but why? 😄

[quiet ice]

Because that is the compile scope of maven

implementation simply excludes the dep from the generated pom

[tender shard]

oooh I see now

[quiet ice]

(but it is still present on the build and runtime classpath - thus it is shaded)

[tender shard]

so let's imagine spigot shades apache commons

[remote swallow]

OfflinePlayer player = Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(Bukkit.getPlayer(args[1]).getUniqueId()); am i correct in saying this would be never be null

[tender shard]

and they it to set compileApi, then I could use apache commons in my plugins

[quiet ice]

Yep

[tender shard]

erm wait

I meant implementationApi

if it would just use implementation, then plugins could not use it

alrighty thx

now I get it

[quiet ice]

Uh, simply api

[tender shard]

erm yeah

[remote swallow]

is api kotlin or something

[quiet ice]

implementationApi is a paradox

[tender shard]

weird why is gradle's naming scheme so fucked up

[quiet ice]

implementation = implementation-specific
api = exposed as part of the project's api

[quiet ice]

Standard gradle

[remote swallow]

if i attempt to get an offline player from name, if they have never played would it be null?

[remote swallow]

ah

[quiet ice]

No, a lookup to mojangs servers should occur

[remote swallow]

ah

[quiet ice]

Although sometimes it does not - idk

It's confusing - alright

[remote swallow]

mojank

[quiet ice]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[remote swallow]

thanks

[tender shard]

am I stupid?

[quiet ice]

Nah, that is bukkit jank

[remote swallow]

compileOnly

[quiet ice]

compile was removed ages ago

They want api or implementation

[quiet ice]

compileOnly is not it

[tender shard]

uugh

gradle is really way way more complicated than maven

[quiet ice]

And @NotNull

[remote swallow]

gradle got more complicated

i always just use compileOnly or implementation

i use which is on the docs or does what i need

[quiet ice]

To be fair that difference makes incredibly huge amounts of sense

[tender shard]

but I wana do it properly from the beginning instead of just using "something" 😄

[remote swallow]

lol fiar

[quiet ice]

I am kindof shocked that maven does not have something like that

[tender shard]

well I mean stuff like "use compile" in the jetbrains docs, while that was removed "ages ago" is just weird

[quiet ice]

With ages ago I mean like 2 years ago - more or less

Or perhaps it was only removed with gradle 7? Idk

[tender shard]

okay but actually I don't want to shade the annotations

[remote swallow]

am i correct in saying to get a Player instance they would have to be online? or can i get player instance if they are online or offline

[tender shard]

so shouldn't I use compileOnly ?

[quiet ice]

Yeah - removed with gradle 7 and deprecated in gradle 6

[tender shard]

I mean who shades jetbrains anotations?

[quiet ice]

then compileOnly

[tender shard]

that's only useful for an api

[tender shard]

oki

[quiet ice]

I do it for safety reasons

[remote swallow]

my brain just refuses to get how Player and OfflinePlayer works lol

[quiet ice]

Don't want ABI diffs to suddenly break my plugins for no reason at all.
But then for other plugins I just don't care

[remote swallow]

oh wait

im blind

it says in the jds

[quiet ice]

Player = Player entity
OfflinePlayer = Player object, of sorts

[remote swallow]

ah thanks

[quiet ice]

If in doubt, OfflinePlayer is always correct.

Since Player extends OfflinePlayer

[tender shard]

OfflinePlayer is an interface with stuff that makes sense for all players. getName(), getUUID(), etc.
Player is an interface that extends OfflinePlayer and adds methods that only make sense for online players, e.g. sendMessage()

[remote swallow]

it makes sense now

tyty

[tender shard]

tbh I would have rather named it Player and OnlinePlayer

I mean players who are offline are still players, right?

[remote swallow]

yeah

[tender shard]

just like people who aren't in the same room are still people

[lavish hemlock]

There's probably an even better naming convention.

[quiet ice]

Player vs PlayerEntity

[gleaming grove]

What m'I doing wrong, why both ChunkLoadEvent or ChunkPopulateEvent are not triggered?

[quiet ice]

Did you register that class?

[gleaming grove]

yes, the server load event message appears in conosle

[quiet ice]

Ah yes right. Was expecting it somewhere else 🤦

[gleaming grove]

and the pianoDataRepository.findAll() return 2 objects so its not empty

[remote swallow]

did you fly about at all

[quiet ice]

Other alternatives I could find is that the chunks are not reloaded

[remote swallow]

i dont think the chunk load event gets called on startup, only for when a player may join or walk about

[quiet ice]

The reload command likely only reloads plugins, but not chunks or player joins and stuff

[rotund ravine]

I think sponge and some other apis already do this

[tender shard]

am I correrct that, in order to declare a main class in MANIFEST.MF, I gotta add the "application" plugin additionally to the java-library plugin, then just set the "mainClassName" attribute and then after runing "gradle shadowJar", it should work?

[rotund ravine]

Sadly bukkit is a big legacy meds

[gleaming grove]

ok I run server again instead of reloading but still nether 'Chunk load' message not appears

[quiet ice]

Are you sure that sponge even has an OfflinePlayer-equivalent?

Yeah, sponge does not have an OfflinePlayer

Or if it does Player is the OfflinePlayer

Where as the online player either is LocalPlayer, RemotePlayer, ServerPlayer or ClientPlayer

And here my people, I'd prefer bukkit's terminology

[tender shard]

wow JDA has such a weird idea about "apis"

between 5.0.0-alpha12 and 5.0.0-beta2 they renamed every package containing "Channel" classes

[remote swallow]

yeah

jda is weird

[tender shard]

I could understand renaming packages between 4.X.X and 5.X.X

but not between 5.0.0-alpha and 5.0.0-beta

[remote swallow]

a lot of changes happened in 5.0.0-alpha

[late sonnet]

well its a alpha... make sence make breaking things (?

[tender shard]

I only just switched to beta.2 to get rid of the vuln warnings lol

no I don't think so

the API should not change between 5.0.0-a and 5.0.0-b

[remote swallow]

beta is the actual release

[tender shard]

I would expect bug fixes, but not breaking API changes

[remote swallow]

alpha was out when 4.0.0 was still the recommended version to use

[tender shard]

the breaking api changes should have happened between 4 and 5, not between 5a and 5b

[remote swallow]

yeah

but jda is weird

[late sonnet]

still are the Lib with the most of things.. the other is D4J but its a little outdated in recent features

[quiet ice]

Uh no? Neither alpha nor beta should be set in stone (especially the case for alpha)

Only for stables release (especially -final) or release candidates it should have stable api

[tender shard]

uuughm am I stupid? where can I get the bot token? isn't that the "client secret" in discord's OAuth2 -> General tab?

[remote swallow]

bot tab

[late sonnet]

you know need "reset token" for the

[tender shard]

but where is it

[tender shard]

uugh that makes no sense

I have to "Reset" the token in order to get one in the first place?

[remote swallow]

yeah

[tender shard]

I always hated the discord developer portal

[sterile token]

Yeah the token is display once, and then if you didnt save it, you will have to reset it to get another

[tender shard]

thanks, got it already

[remote swallow]

it doesnt actually show the token once anymore

[tender shard]

worst thing is, where even is a link to the portal on the official website?

I always have to use google to find the actual link to the dev portal

[sterile token]

?

[remote swallow]

internet was slow and didnt send those before i said yeah lol

when you create a new bot it never shows the token

you have to reset it to get it the first time

[sterile token]

?

[late sonnet]

yep

[remote swallow]

it was so annoying when they changed that

[sterile token]

What?

[remote swallow]

on the discord dev portal

[sterile token]

What are you talking about?

[remote swallow]

here, you said it shows it once

it no longer shows it once

[late sonnet]

in the past first token are visible.. now not.

[sterile token]

oh they changed it again

[remote swallow]

yeah

[late sonnet]

and now add snow

[tender shard]

bro just scroll up a bit lol

[remote swallow]

theres also a number

idk what it is

[late sonnet]

i think is https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#snowflakes

[sterile token]

Because when i use to code with discord.js v12, you were able to get the token directly, then they changed to see the token 1 time only, if you lost it you have to reset it, and now they came back as it was on the past so?

[remote swallow]

oh its our discord snowflake

[sterile token]

snowflake what a pathetic name tho, its really descriptive 🤡

[remote swallow]

yeah, it was like 6 months ago or maybe more that they changed it to that they dont show the token at all, you have to reset it

it was so annoying

[sterile token]

yeah i remember that

[late sonnet]

thanks to twitter xd

[sterile token]

Why twitter im lost, rom what i know twitter is owned by Elon Musk and discord by another guy

[late sonnet]

The docs about the ID show this.
https://github.com/twitter-archive/snowflake/tree/snowflake-2010

[remote swallow]

discord is owned by google?

[sterile token]

no no, my bad

[remote swallow]

ah

[sterile token]

Google offered to buy discord, but they didnt never accept it

So changing topic, is there any documentation for spigot scoreboard api? Where it fully details what object are for that and what exactly does the Objective, Criteria, etc?

[quiet ice]

Wasn't it MS that wanted to buy discord?

[remote swallow]

they did at somepoint i think

[sterile token]

yeah Microsoft was tho

[sterile token]

no, discord didnt allow it, they just allow them to put actions on it if im not wrong

[remote swallow]

yeah

[sterile token]

Scoreabord api on 1.19 its really weird, there is no official tutorials for that version

The docs, dont explain much, for example does Criteria neither Objectives etc

[tender shard]

lmao copilot again wrote the whole class for me

[vocal cloud]

Probably would want the no perms before invalid args

[sterile token]

What command framework are you using? the default from Spigot api?

[tardy delta]

i once let it do sql and everything was cursed

[sterile token]

What have that to do? Not wondering to be rude i dont understand tho

[tender shard]

none, it's my standalone discord bot

it's not a spigot plugin

[sterile token]

ohh its a bot

[tender shard]

and it uses gradle lol

[remote swallow]

oh also alex if you want to use gradlew build instead of gradlew shadowJar add

build {
    dependsOn shadowJar
} 

somewhere in the build file

[sterile token]

Oh thanks bro i didnt know you can do that with gradle

[late sonnet]

slash commands?

[remote swallow]

np

ive also got the stuff to auto set version in plugin.yml

[tender shard]

I hate how you have to use "echo" to return stuff in bash functions

[tender shard]

Nope! I hate slash commands

they are so annoying

[spring minnow]

Hi, i have this task that spawns boss every Tot time, i want to create a placeholder that tells you how much time is left to spawn another boss, but i don't know how to check how much time does it take for the runTaskTimer to be executed again

[spring minnow]

can someone help?

[tender shard]

slash commands are the worst thing ever added to discord. Example this: If you just type without confirming that you meant this command, discord simply does not detect them, like wtf

slash commands are a fucking pain

[late sonnet]

oh... this... im moving to slash for reduce the read messages things and limit better client-side the arguments

[tender shard]

my bot just has a configurable prefix

[late sonnet]

not sure if you can check this... maybe replace this with a repeat task for count seconds and use this for know how time left.

[tender shard]

yeah for that it's useful, but since every command almost always sends a reply, I guess the "read messages thing" is kinda not important

if only slash commands would work without having to "confirm" them, I'd 100% love them

[late sonnet]

i still wanna not depend of this.. in large servers cause a few issues this or my code is so bad optimized xd

[spring minnow]

maybe you gave me an idea, i'll try

thanks

[frank kettle]

I've tried to search about the "players list" on the server list ping that some plugins allow to edit.

Does anyone know exactly how's that called or a thread explaining/talking about it?

I only find plugins, no threads

[remote swallow]

pretty sure that needs packets to modify it

[frank kettle]

Yeah but I don't know what name it's called

[tender shard]

lmao the title of the window always switches between grep and sleep

and sometimes awk

[remote swallow]

is there a way to make the runbuildtools.sh run all buildtools

despite if they have already been built

[gray merlin]

why tho

[remote swallow]

so i can run all buildtools

[tender shard]

that's what my script does

[remote swallow]

i thought it only runs what hasnt already been ran

[tender shard]

oh you wanna rebuilt even existing versions?

[remote swallow]

yeah

[tender shard]

then just change the one function to always return 1

[remote swallow]

thanks

[tender shard]

just change this https://github.com/JEFF-Media-GbR/JeffLib/blob/master/run-buildtools.sh

oh wait

I meant

[remote swallow]

function isInRepo {

[remote swallow]

make it always return false?

[tender shard]

change this to always return $TRUE

I mean $FALSE

[remote swallow]

ah

[tender shard]

yes

[remote swallow]

do i need to change the if [ "$remapped" == $TRUE ]; then?

[tender shard]

function isInRepo() { return $FALSE; }

[remote swallow]

even better

[tender shard]

alternatively, just delete ~/.m2/org/spigotmc/spigot directory

I mean if you wanna rebuild every version anyway, just remove the existing ones beforehand

but why would you do that?

1.19.3 is the only version that might change

the older ones will stay the same

[remote swallow]

get all the versions i dont have already

in case i need to use them in future

[tender shard]

does anyone know how I can rename a TextChannel name in JDA 5 beta2?

[remote swallow]

TextChannel.getManager().setName("name").queue

or something like that

[tender shard]

oh ok thx

ughm how again can I add a bot to a discord server

I always forget this

I have a server, I got a discord bot application - but how do I make it join that server?

I have looked for 5 minutes and cannot find it

[remote swallow]

get the application id and https://scarsz.me/authorize

i find that the easiest way

[tender shard]

but what's the official way? 😄

[remote swallow]

on the oauth2

set scopes and perms on general

then use url generateor

most of the time you can use bot, then you can set perms again

[tender shard]

why is this fucking developer portal so extremely shitty

[tender shard]

thx that worked

[remote swallow]

its the discordsrv setup thing

[tender shard]

why isn't there just a button in the dev portal "Add to server: <server name>"

[remote swallow]

its easier than making the url myself

[remote swallow]

because thats too easy

[dense geyser]

I have a question involving editing a plugin. Is this where I would go for that?

[dusk flicker]

I mean you could ask here, would probably need more context if you wanted a 100% direction where to go.

[tender shard]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[quiet ice]

Is it open-source? (or generally do you have access to the source or are you editing a plugin which does not have a known source)

[dense geyser]

thereis a plugin on Spigot (IDK if i can add links on here) and I want to know if someone can change a couple lines of code. As it is set up, it will randomly spawn mobs between level 0 and 10. (levels added by the plugin) I wan to know if someone can make it so that evey 20ish mc days it'll got from say 0-10 to 1-11 and so on

[tender shard]

if you want someone else to do it:

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[quiet ice]

If the source is public that may be the right place, otherwise I doubt so - the amount of people that know java bytecode is minimal

[tender shard]

no need to - just decompile it, change the code, and compile it again 😄

[quiet ice]

Depends on the size of the plugin

[tender shard]

true

[quiet ice]

I've done it once for a plugin - it is a tedious affair to fix all compile errors

[tender shard]

just send the link to the plugin @dense geyser

[compact haven]

the problem with modifying decompiled code is getting all of the dependencies used to be available when compiled

because a lot of things in spigot are available at runtime so they aren’t shaded or anything, so if they don’t compile with dependency info you’re kinda left on a wild goose chase

[sterile token]

Is this bash correct? Im on windows trying to start a sever with Java 17 but the process start and then instantly get killed

[tender shard]

looks good

[sterile token]

okay, so something else must be wrong

[tender shard]

well it will print sth to console when you run it

just enter that command and you'll see what's wrong?

[sterile token]

Hee', didnt understand

There is a command "-jar Spigot.jar"

[tender shard]

?

[quiet ice]

Does not compute.

[sterile token]

The sever is not started tho

[tender shard]

i dont get what the problem is

[quiet ice]

What is the console output?

[tender shard]

run your script and show what the output is in your terminal

[sterile token]

the terminal doesnt open

I mean just open for seconds and then get closed

[quiet ice]

Then run it through the terminal

[tender shard]

you are not supposed to double click it lol

run it from your terminal / shell

[sterile token]

okay, weird

[tender shard]

what's weird

i literally don't understand the problem lol

[sterile token]

Hmnn

[sterile token]

That the script is not starting the server

[tender shard]

"start" ?

how is your script even called?

[sterile token]

yeah start is the name of the script? Isnt

[tender shard]

then do ./start

[compact haven]

it’s ./start.sh

[tender shard]

then it's called "start.sh" and not "start"

[quiet ice]

If uppercase ./Strart.sh

[compact haven]

what’s this file called xd

[quiet ice]

Eh, just give us what ls -l prints

[sterile token]

Wait i the server dosnt even start running the script content manually

[quiet ice]

-.-

[sterile token]

yeah that why i asked if the script was correct

🤡

That why the sever wasnt started

I love spigot tho

[tender shard]

I love how you don't give the full stacktrace but only one line

[sterile token]

its only give that line

[tender shard]

java -jar Spigot.jar

what does that print

[sterile token]

an error, because default java is 8

That why im using the asb path

[compact haven]

can replace Java with the path to 17

[sterile token]

yeah but its a mess them because i always use 8

[compact haven]

I meant

run that command

[sterile token]

Just need to start the sever to test a plugin

ok

[compact haven]

with “java” replaced with the path

[tender shard]

then do /path/to/java17 -jar Spigot.jar

and see what that prints

[sterile token]

"C:\Program Files\Eclipse Adoptium\jdk-17.0.3.7-hotspot\bin\java.exe" -Xmx3G -Xms3G -jar Spigot.jar

LIke that so?

[quiet ice]

without the jvm args

[sterile token]

okk

[quiet ice]

Also what exactly is this "Spigot" jar?

[compact haven]

downloaded from the black market

[sterile token]

The spigot getted from Build Tools

🤔

[quiet ice]

That is the wrong spigot I'd guess

[tender shard]

I don't see any "Spigot.jar" in that folder

[quiet ice]

You need to use the bundler spigot (or the shaded one - idk)

[tender shard]

how do you manage to write plugins but fail to start a server lol

[quiet ice]

But likely not from that folder

[quiet ice]

You can't really fuck it up in paper world

[sterile token]

Never need to start none java 8 servers

[tender shard]

it works the same though?

[quiet ice]

Bundler

Bundler is the issue

[tender shard]

only difference is that you specify the java17 exec instead of the java 8 one

[sterile token]

Isnt what im doing? 💀

[tender shard]

but you can start the 1.19 .jar the same way as you can do the other ones

[quiet ice]

But bundler.......

[tender shard]

I bet against that

[sterile token]

So what i can do?

[quiet ice]

Not if you use the non-shaded non-bundler jar lmao

[tender shard]

it's literally just... copy spigot.jar somewhere, then do /path/to/java17 -jar spigot-1.19.3.jar

[tender shard]

that's why one is supposed to use the proper .jar

not the one from the Spigot/ dir

[sterile token]

IS what i did tho, but its not running the sever

[quiet ice]

the shaded jar!

[tender shard]

bruh

[quiet ice]

Not the ordinary jar!

[tender shard]

if you run buildtools in C:\Buildtools

then use the .jar from C:\Buildtools\spigot-1.19.3.jar

that is the only proper server .jar

[quiet ice]

Yeah, that works

[sterile token]

I just copy pasted the jar and put it in another dir, is not so diff

[tender shard]

WHICH jar

[tender shard]

^

[quiet ice]

I think we'll sit until tomorrow.
Just use paper

[sterile token]

Paper 💀🤢

[compact haven]

paper is not bad

[quiet ice]

The noob-proof solution

[compact haven]

yall just tripping on rocks

[tender shard]

that is not the proper one

...

[sterile token]

okay thanks for saying it

[tender shard]

^

[sterile token]

Because you all where shitting me and one of us told what one to use

[tender shard]

because you literally ignore everything we say

[compact haven]

literally the first message after

[tender shard]

After running Buildtools, you have a file that is EXACTLY called "spigot-1.19.3.jar"

[compact haven]

is telling you it’s the wrong one

[sterile token]

oh never seen that

[tender shard]

I wrote this 4 times already now

[sterile token]

That why i dont get spigot jars, from build tools its a fkg mess

[quiet ice]

And don't fetch it from the "targets" folder

[compact haven]

you’re right it is a mess

when do we get a spigot “paper clip” solution

[quiet ice]

Someone wrote one actually

[compact haven]

really? 🤔

[tender shard]

it is literally extremely easy

you run buildtools and then you use the file called "spigot-1.19.3.jar"

how is that a fucking mess?

You simply do not read the instructions

[quiet ice]

https://github.com/lucyydotp/spigotclip/blob/main/build.sh or somethin

[tender shard]

BuildTools even tells you what the file is called and where it is, after it completed

[quiet ice]

It's older though

Mar 2021
A year older than I had expected actually

[compact haven]

that is not what I was expecting

[sterile token]

It still not starting just created folders and nothing else

[compact haven]

I meant the jar that you can download from paper and that’ll compile paper on first load

as if you downloaded paper from the paper site instead

[tender shard]

because you hae not accepted the eula

if you would simply read the console output, you would have noticed that you are supposed to accept the eula now

but idk you never read anything

[compact haven]

bro is stuck in 1.8

[quiet ice]

Paper is actually pre-compiled

[compact haven]

wait

[sterile token]

yeah!

[compact haven]

isn’t EULA also in 1.8

[quiet ice]

It's just a differential that is applied, which is what paperclip does

[compact haven]

the need to accept

[sterile token]

I never have to started a server since 2018

[rough drift]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[quiet ice]

Fuck you

[rough drift]

Fuck me

sure when

[compact haven]

a differential? Wdym

[sterile token]

Server is still not starting fucking 1.19

[quiet ice]

(not you in particular though, I'm replying it each time I get this answer)

[tender shard]

ike gay? since when

[compact haven]

they don’t distribute compiled mojang code

[rough drift]

It's a joke among me and my friends

whenever one says "fuck you" we just reply "sure when"

[tender shard]

hm on grindr it actually works like that

[rough drift]

oh

[compact haven]

rofl

[rough drift]

;-;

[buoyant viper]

o ya wat r u working on that u wanted maxplayers and motd method eyes @remote swallow

[rough drift]

also

alex

[buoyant viper]

ur own pr?

[rough drift]

I did a thing

[quiet ice]

Kinda like patches (such as https://github.com/MilkBowl/Vault/commit/460cb21c6215433da526192720de40b6662f5f99.patch) but in binary

[rough drift]

so it's yes patch or no patch?

binary patch

[compact haven]

well I know that binary patches are applied to update

but at first time it downloads sources and compiles

[quiet ice]

They are applied on top of the vanilla jar

But it never compiles anything

[sterile token]

Okay definitly not understanding how works the 1.19 bundler shit

[compact haven]

gimme a sec

[sterile token]

Sever is not starting too

[quiet ice]

Compiling paper with janino or eclipse would be stupid

[rough drift]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[quiet ice]

Fuck you

[rough drift]

Sure when

[sterile token]

When?

[rough drift]

lol

[compact haven]

my bad ur right geol

[quiet ice]

Although spigot is compiled with eclipse. So probably might also work for forks

[sterile token]

🤡

[quiet ice]

But uh, I'd not be the one to test that

[quiet ice]

the server did not start up yet

[sterile token]

What shity modifications they have done from 1.8 to 1.19!!! LMAO

[fossil pike]

can someone help me make a quick change to a plugin? I'm trying to just edit it to add a version dependency for 1.15.2, but the computer I'm currently on isn't even powerful enough to finish the build on IntelliJ

[quiet ice]

Well spigot is close to vanilla - tooo close to vanilla for my liking

Takes like 10 minutes to shut down

[rough drift]

verano, you're always so close to getting the correct sentence, it pains me

[rough drift]

close to vanilla is good, close to vanilla performance is bad

[quiet ice]

Some forks on the other hand - like 3 seconds

[buoyant viper]

use vscode

[sterile token]

Its my bad english bro

[rough drift]

Yeah, but you get it so close so many times

[sterile token]

Atleast you didnt told him to use shity Eclipse 💀

[tender shard]

fr verano, starting a spigot .jar that buildtools made is not very hard lol

[fossil pike]

i can paypal 5 bucks to whoever can do this for me, I need this asap

[quiet ice]

And I took it personally

[rough drift]

if works was at the end then it would be a correct sentence

[compact haven]

why is buildtools in a tmp directory 🤔

[tender shard]

you dont have to. you just have to java -jar spigot.jar

[rough drift]

oh hi alex

[rough drift]

check #general, I did a thing

[quiet ice]

I mean I'd be down to it, but standalone maven surely doesn't take that much power

[compact haven]

just realized he was here?

[tender shard]

my script always downloads the latest buildtools and deletes it after completion

[buoyant viper]

speaking of BuildTools, i never bothered to see how to test a fork

i want to say itd be BuildTools.jar --dev --dont-update but i only did mvn install on Spigot project

[compact haven]

interesting

[fossil pike]

can someone help me make a quick change to a plugin? I'm trying to just edit it to add a version dependency for 1.15.2, but the computer I'm currently on isn't even powerful enough to finish the build on IntelliJ. I

[tender shard]

this video literally ends exactly before the part where eclipse indeed does an obvious mistake

[tender shard]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[rough drift]

song name now

[tender shard]

also who the fuck still uses 1.15.2

[sterile token]

Mfalex did the video

I need the song name too

I really like the song

[quiet ice]

No need to ask twice

[sterile token]

Please song name fromthe video

[tender shard]

way to your heart from soulsister I guess

[rough drift]

LETS GO

[tender shard]

yeah

pretty sure

[rough drift]

yeah

it is

also

alex

[compact haven]

if you’re able to run Discord, as an electron app, you can run maven build

[rough drift]

check #general

[quiet ice]

The first 10 seconds are skill issue.
The slow typing speeds even more so.
And the cast thing is a user error

[rough drift]

I just prefer ij completions

[quiet ice]

White background is user brain damage

[rough drift]

otherwise eclipse all the way

[quiet ice]

I don't really see how completions can be improved but whatever

[rough drift]

ij just has them better

[quiet ice]

Not very convincing

[wary kettle]

Does anyone know the difference between BlockFace.NORTH_EAST, and BlockFace.NORTH_NORTH_EAST and etc for west

[rough drift]

I know

used both, I can tell the difference

[rough drift]

go two north

one east

the other is one north

one east

[wary kettle]

why is that a thing in minecraft lol

[quiet ice]

that is not it.

[rough drift]

no clue

[compact haven]

at least IJ has built in Maven support

[wary kettle]

what is that used for

[rough drift]

then what is it

[sterile token]

Why when i start the server it open a shity white interface from Minecraft Server?

[quiet ice]

M2Eclipse anyone?

[rough drift]

add nogui at the end of the command

[quiet ice]

Have you see a compass yet?

[rough drift]

:O

send screenshot

[compact haven]

that exists but not by default, at least not always

but no I’m not going to crusade anyone for using eclipse

[quiet ice]

https://res.cloudinary.com/dk-find-out/image/upload/q_80,w_1920,f_auto/compass_lez6hq.jpg

[compact haven]

I personally have used all 3 ides

[rough drift]

don't care

send

[quiet ice]

As you see Northeast is between north and east

[compact haven]

and prefer IJ 🤷‍♂️

[sterile token]

Me too

[rough drift]

yes

but double north

[quiet ice]

This is useful for signs

[rough drift]

what is double north

[compact haven]

(being netbeans, eclipse and IJ)

[rough drift]

k

[quiet ice]

You shouldn't use Eclipse for Java EE anyways

[buoyant viper]

actually used vscode as an ide earlier bc i was too lazy to open Spigot in intellij

[quiet ice]

At least not in Spigot world

[compact haven]

that I will crusade for

[rough drift]

nah nah guys

you use the wrong IDEs

[quiet ice]

Command line ♥️

[rough drift]

I use codewars.com code writing place for training to code

[compact haven]

mate cli and ide support are 2 vastly different levels

[rough drift]

then I paste it into my console making java compile the string of the code

[tender shard]

and fleet /scnr

[rough drift]

and then run the .class

[buoyant viper]

yeah

[rough drift]

manually loading it in spigot

[quiet ice]

./gradlew build and ./mvnw package are the top ones

[compact haven]

well I haven’t touched fleet yet xd

[buoyant viper]

i just didnt want to open intellij

[rough drift]

it's shit

[tardy delta]

i tried to do my coding on linux and then my os decided to throw ij away

[tender shard]

btw why does everyone use gradlew instead of gradle?

[quiet ice]

Yeah

[rough drift]

tbh fuck gradle

maven

[buoyant viper]

was simpler to just right click -> open with vscode

[tender shard]

I also don't like it but I'm giving it a try anyway

[buoyant viper]

bc gradle can just fuckin break configs between versions

so its safer to use the provided wrapper

[tender shard]

whut

[quiet ice]

Artifact transformation mostly

[tender shard]

o0 why

[quiet ice]

And not having a shit plugin API

[rough drift]

Someday will be the day I make my lang with my own build system

[quiet ice]

Or rather said an API that you cannot understand

[buoyant viper]

like gradle projects using deprecated gradle features i think

personally im still waiting for @lavish hemlock s minimal buildsystem

[gray merlin]

Maven is like butter: Soft, tasty, nice looking.
Gradle is like cement: Rough, not tasty, dull looking, likely to give you a headache upon consumption.

[tender shard]

is Meow Maow?

[quiet ice]

The artifact transformation thing is mostly only needed because I mod galimulator though

[tender shard]

it is indeed

[compact haven]

so many less lines tho

xml is just disgusting

[buoyant viper]

ye

[tender shard]

ah oki

[compact haven]

have you seen shade plug-in config

[quiet ice]

XML is okay

[compact haven]

it’s like 30 lines long

well this is true

[quiet ice]

Have you seen it in gradle?

[compact haven]

shadowJar isn’t even made by gradle

[quiet ice]

Absolutely incomprehensible

[tender shard]

gradle cannot even shade without third party plugins lol

[compact haven]

kekw

[gray merlin]

XML is only disgusting if you don't get to know it, but if you give it time, love, attention, and get to know it for what it really is, you'll see that it is actually very nice.

[quiet ice]

it can but you don't want to try it

[tender shard]

how can it do that?

[compact haven]

I don’t want to give it love and attention

[quiet ice]

Due to natives or what?

[compact haven]

although I use maven most of the time anyways xd

[tender shard]

13 lines

[compact haven]

but gradle much less lines

[compact haven]

I said configuration, did I not

[rough drift]

@quiet ice how dows your buildtool look like

[compact haven]

Alex I meant the literal <configuration> tags

[tender shard]

which additional configuration would you need?

[gray merlin]

I'm trying to figure out how to add another plugin as a dependency to my plugin, in order to use stuff from it; Specifically WorldGuard and WorldGuard Events. I've figured out that there's a "depend" I needed to add; Done. Now how do I add the plugin to the "buildpath"?

[compact haven]

you need configuration, then artifactSet, then excludes, then exclude tag

[tender shard]

you usually dont need that at all

[rough drift]

you need it as a compile only lib

[tender shard]

for what would you need that?

[compact haven]

if you want to exclude certain packages

[quiet ice]

Slbrachyura does look like https://github.com/Starloader-project/Starloader-API

[tender shard]

why not just use <minimizeJar>true ?

@compact haven

[buoyant viper]

ah the good old

configurations {
  shade

  implementation.extendsFrom shade
}

dependencies {
  shade "someshit.idk:yeah"
}

jar {
  from configurations.shade.collect { it.isDirectory() ? it : zipTree(it) }
}```

[tender shard]

what the heck is that

[quiet ice]

https://github.com/Starloader-project/Starloader-API/blob/future/2x/buildscript/src/main/java/Buildscript.java

[buoyant viper]

basic gradle shading without shade plugin

[quiet ice]

Shades dependencies

[gray merlin]

Yeah but, pardon my ignorance, i've only ever done that using maven dependency addition lines that I found in the docs, and WorldGuard doesn't seem to have that

[rough drift]

??

[buoyant viper]

no relocations, just fatjar essentially

[tender shard]

whoa that's nasty

[rough drift]

just add a maven dependency

[tender shard]

for the record: I really don't hate gradle, but it obviously has some serious issues and it's way more complicated than maven

[quiet ice]

brachyura-bootstrap-0.jar - the wrapper
And the buildscript folder contains all the buildscript data

[rough drift]

so um

so where is the build thing

[lavish hemlock]

I've found it hard to understand Gradle and Maven

[buoyant viper]

doesnt gradle too? lol

[quiet ice]

java -Dde.geolykt.starplane.nocache=true -jar brachyura-bootstrap-0.jar build

[lavish hemlock]

They both have less-than-decent documentation

[buoyant viper]

i mean SSL certs are free, LetsEncrypt 💪

[gray merlin]

This reminds me of HBML
https://github.com/heyitsdoodler/hbml
HTML but with brackets.

[quiet ice]

You can remove that though

[buoyant viper]

ok honestly i saw this on reddit and it seems actually good

[lavish hemlock]

...kind of looks like CSS tbh