help-development

[echo basalt]

gangsta

[white dew]

Hi guys, I have a map I'm using to map uuid to an object of the class I made called "PlayerPlus"

However, more than one listener is gonna need this object

I thought about initializing the map in the onEnable method, on the main class

and distributing It to the listeners, passing the map for the constructor of the listeners

However, I'm not sure if this is a good idea

🤔

what do you guys think?

[wet breach]

Make a custom event that extends the event you want. Make custom event return your object

[wet breach]

A better option might be to put it in a singleton so you can ensure there is only one instance to avoid possible problems in such things. Otherwise what you stated is also fine

[white dew]

ah, I see

I'm not sure what is a singleton, tho

[wet breach]

If anything I would make it a concurrenthashmap though

[white dew]

but I understand the possible problem

I don't know what a concurrenthashmap is as well 🤔

sorry 😅

[wet breach]

Simgleton is a class that is setup in such a way that only a single instance of it can exist or be created

[white dew]

Ah, that makes sense

[wet breach]

Concurrenthashmap is the same as a hashmap but designed to allow multiple things to access it without running into concurrent modification exceptions

[white dew]

Ah, I see

isnt dependency injection my idea?

ah, ok!

Awesome

[wet breach]

Hope that helps with your questions you had

[white dew]

Yeeeessss

Thank you a lot :)

thanks you too

[hybrid spoke]

i would not do the latter, that breaks the SRP

rather have a repository for the object

if the class on the one side represents a value object and on the other side handles and manages those instances, how does it keep the SRP

and thats where it breaks. first, the instance should not manage itself, second, the instance should not even know that it is managed from a higher being

[white dew]

Hey, I'm watching a video of how to do commands and the guy is making the onCommand method on the main class

however, the main class extends JavaPlugin but not CommandExecutor

How is he using "onCommand"? 🤔 wound't he need to implement CommandExecutor in some way?

I mean, I'm doing in an exterior class, and I'm using "public class ChooseCommand implements CommandExecutor"

[hybrid spoke]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/plugin/java/JavaPlugin.html#onCommand(org.bukkit.command.CommandSender,org.bukkit.command.Command,java.lang.String,java.lang.String[])

[kind hatch]

That's because if you go far enough down the chain, you'll find that at some point JavaPlugin extends TabExecutor, which extends CommandExecutor. Therefore it has access to it.

[white dew]

ooooooooooooh

that makes a lot of sense!

thanks

[hybrid spoke]

its inherits commandexecutor as well

[hybrid spoke]

javaplugin is clever, it implements both

[vocal cloud]

Terrible tutorial video if they do it in the main class

[river oracle]

Truth

I'd assume it's a yotube tutorial which are notoriously awful

[vocal cloud]

99% of YouTube tutorials could be 1 minute quick bites

[hybrid spoke]

problem is

there are barely good youtube tutorials

[vocal cloud]

Be the change you want to see in the world™️

[hybrid spoke]

i cant code

[vocal cloud]

Honesty is the best policy

Maybe I should dust off the ol YouTube channel

[river oracle]

We should collaborate I suck at coding but I can teach

[vocal cloud]

I'm thinking making shorts since that's all the time you'd need to teach a core concept

[tranquil dome]

I have made my own class that extends the EntityFishingHook. What I want to do is to spawn a FishHook entity without the player having to hold a fishing rod in their hand. On 1.8 NMS, there's a method t_() that has a check for this exact thing, so I chose to override it. Removing the condition from the if statement, and even commenting out the this.die() method, did not stop the hook from despawning. Once I had overriden the this.die() method to do nothing, the hooks finally stopped despawning. Could there be another reason that causes the hooks to despawn? Note that the fishing hook never despawned when the player was actually holding a fishing rod.

Code used to spawn my custom fishhook (WireKunai):

    fun spawnWireKunai(player: Player) {
        val craftPlayer: CraftPlayer = player as CraftPlayer
        val entityHuman: EntityHuman = craftPlayer.handle as EntityHuman
        val world = entityHuman.world

        val wireKunai = WireKunai(world, entityHuman)
        val location = player.eyeLocation

        wireKunai.setLocation(location.x, location.y, location.z, location.yaw, location.pitch)
        world.addEntity(wireKunai)
    }

[vocal cloud]

1.8 moment

[remote swallow]

?1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[tranquil dome]

Aiming to support versions 1.8 and up

I know it's old, but many servers still use it for pvp.

[echo basalt]

be the reason why she carries a pepper spray

[vocal cloud]

EU moment

[echo basalt]

be the reason your homies carry a pocket knife

[vocal cloud]

Be the reason she carries an AR-15

[echo basalt]

murica

[vocal cloud]

With an extended mag, laser sight and collapsible stock

[hard pebble]

?1.12

hello im currently making a lifesteal plugin however i really need the code line which to add when a player reach 0 hearts to ban

can anyone tell the code for it

[chrome beacon]

What lifesteal plugin

nvm

[hard pebble]

..

[chrome beacon]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[chrome beacon]

Start here ^^

[hard pebble]

-_-

hello im currently making a lifesteal plugin however i really need the code line which to add when a player reach 0 hearts to ban

can anyone tell the code for it

[chrome beacon]

No we're not going to spoonfeed you the code

[hard pebble]

why

so is not ahelp

😭

[chrome beacon]

If you cannot code or don't want to hire someone

We help people we don't write plugins for people

[hard pebble]

its only a line

not a code

only 1 line

[molten hearth]

you can't write only a line?

[hard pebble]

the line that i cant understand

[molten hearth]

also its only a dollar 😏

[hard pebble]

i tried

[remote swallow]

if (playerHealth == 0) PlayerGetBanned;

[hard pebble]

thank you bro u made my day

[remote swallow]

if you needed help for writing an if statement, you really need to learn java

[hard pebble]

oh

[chrome beacon]

I hope you're not planning on copy pasting that

[molten hearth]

5 minutes from now: its red 😭

[quaint mantle]

My command is running twice :/ idk why

im only running it once through /home

[remote swallow]

?paste the code

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[quaint mantle]

https://paste.md-5.net/gukeboqeso.java Home.java

https://paste.md-5.net/hovimiyiya.java Housing.java

https://paste.md-5.net/atikejunah.makefile plugin.yml

[eternal oxide]

show your main class

[quaint mantle]

Housing.java is my main class

[hybrid spoke]

all i see is static abuse but no reason to execute it twice

[remote swallow]

yeah

[hybrid spoke]

maybe load the plugin somehow twice?

an old instance?

[eternal oxide]

its not running twice. you are returning false from onCommand so you get the error syntax output too

[quaint mantle]

should i be returning true?

[eternal oxide]

if its the correct command yes

[hybrid spoke]

depends if you want to get the set command usage sent

[eternal oxide]

you only return false if you want the syntax message displayed

[quaint mantle]

also when i first boot up the server the plugin has an error but when i reload it it works fine

could be related

[eternal oxide]

line 19 in Housing is causing yoru error

a static field initializes before worlds are loaded

[quaint mantle]

error messages not being very useful

[hybrid spoke]

it is

like elgar said, the worlds are not loaded yet

[eternal oxide]

I just told you why

[quaint mantle]

yes

ur useful but that message i dont understand

[remote swallow]

remove the static

[eternal oxide]

if you read teh full stacktrace it would tell you the exact line

move the initialization to your onEnable

[quaint mantle]

but what about the inst

how do i hold an instance

do i srsly have to pass it to every constructor

[remote swallow]

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[quaint mantle]

does onEnable not run during /reload

[eternal oxide]

it does

[quaint mantle]

weird cus i moved plotLocations = new HashMap<>(); to onEnable and now it says its null

[little panther]

Hey, ive tried to make it so that piglins wont target you until you attack them, but now they wont target the player even though they hit the piglin. Do anyone know why? This is my code: https://pastebin.com/8cVmBPP1

[summer agate]

This line if (e.getReason() != EntityTargetEvent.TargetReason.TARGET_ATTACKED_ENTITY || e.getReason() != EntityTargetEvent.TargetReason.TARGET_ATTACKED_NEARBY_ENTITY || e.getReason() != EntityTargetEvent.TargetReason.TARGET_ATTACKED_OWNER) { needs to have && instead of ||, because if the first of the or is true, it will commence

On mobile so I could be wrong, linewrap is making it hard to read

[little panther]

oh yea, why did i not see that 😄 i think im too tired for this. Thanks mate!

[summer agate]

A fresh set of eyes tends to help haha

[golden turret]

hey guys, is there a way to replace the %20 %C3 to the actual character? I am using JavaScript and I need a function like fixText(text)

[kind ridge]

decodeURIComponent(text)

[golden turret]

thanks!

[void mason]

hi guys, i'm trying to make conveyor belt only with resourcepack and plugin but i don't know how to make entity move smoothly (tp is too jerky and doesn't work smoothly for items and motion tag doesn't work for players) can someone help me?

for information the conveyor belt is a block with unused blockstate and not an entity.

[summer agate]

Have you tried Entity#setVelocity?

[fluid river]

eh

noob @kindred valley ?

[tardy delta]

FREE JAVA LESSONS

[fluid river]

yes

[tardy delta]

what you got for me?

[fluid river]

idk

ask something

[tardy delta]

concurrency

unsafe

atomic operations

mongdb

ha

[fluid river]

i never worked with mongodb

i think you already know unsafe and concurrency

[tardy delta]

neither do i

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-sad-disappointed-am-i-mandalorian-gif-15937614

ill see how much ram i can jank with unsafe off heap allocations 🤡

[river oracle]

Time to use unsafe to edit nms fields 🥳

[tardy delta]

unsafe::putObject?

wondering what the dif would be versus reflection, probably native code

[river oracle]

Idk how unsafe works tbh can you even do that

[tardy delta]

unsafe.putObject(field, unsafe.fieldOffsetFor(s), newValue)

[river oracle]

But I need to edit a specific private static final fields which you can't do with reflection well technically you can but it's a bug and was removed after java 17

[remote swallow]

JREE FAVA LESSONS**

[tardy delta]

forgot how field offset method is called

instead do ||FREE LESSONS HOW TO GET BITCHES||

[fluid river]

https://blogs.oracle.com/javamagazine/post/the-unsafe-class-unsafe-at-any-speed

good luck

tho why do you even need unsafe

[tardy delta]

just because you cann crash the jvm doesnt mean you should do it

learnt that one from alex fr 🤡

[fluid river]

that's exactly what i mean

[tardy delta]

takes only one line

well except for getting the Unsafe object

someone should explain me compare and swap

[tardy delta]

heeheehee

[void mason]

not yet, i'm a noob at making plugin and its difficult for me to search English because my English is trash

[quaint mantle]

Hello, has anybody here an idea how to fix this ?

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.lang.String io.netty.util.internal.PlatformDependent.normalizedOs()'
        at io.vertx.core.impl.Utils.<clinit>(Utils.java:30) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.file.impl.FileCache.setupCacheDir(FileCache.java:52) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.file.impl.FileCache.setupCache(FileCache.java:31) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.file.impl.FileResolverImpl.<init>(FileResolverImpl.java:67) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.impl.VertxBuilder.initFileResolver(VertxBuilder.java:334) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.impl.VertxBuilder.init(VertxBuilder.java:274) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.Vertx.vertx(Vertx.java:87) ~[?:?]
        at io.vertx.core.Vertx.vertx(Vertx.java:77) ~[?:?]

[tardy delta]

since when is java.lang.String a method

[quaint mantle]

Man shit is is not my code

[delicate lynx]

ask whoever wrote it then

[tardy delta]

furr

[quaint mantle]

haha yr funny

basicly from where comes a second netty instance?

[delicate lynx]

it's hard to tell without any examples of code

probably one of your dependencies has netty already

[quaint mantle]

What code do you want

vert.x is open source

https://vertx.io

[hollow pelican]

Has anyone got any clue how to fix this? Cannot read the array length because "<local3>" is null

I'm trying to iterate through an array and see if an element matches a certain value to check if it matches by using a boolean method.

[tardy delta]

array null?

[golden turret]

I need help with some regex

basically, I want to validate the following: <number here> (<some text>) <some text>

[hollow pelican]

The array is created by deserializing a JSON file to an array of the custom data object used.

It works in 1 set of code but not in my boolean method.

I'm doing essentially the exact same thing in a different method but it's broken in my boolean one and I have no clue why.

CustomDataObject[] customDataObjectArray = new Gson().fromJson(new FileReader(fileName), CustomDataObject[].class); (the actual name has been removed)

And fileName is a string argument that is specified.

[tardy delta]

does gson even know how to deserialize to an array lol

might give it a typeadapter

[hollow pelican]

for (CustomDataObject customDataObject : customDataObjectArray) {
            if(customDataObject.getProperty1().equals(theStringThatIAmTryingToCheck)) {
                return true;
            }
        }
        
        return false;```

I'm doing basically the same thing in another method so I have no idea why it isn't working here.

[eternal oxide]

BigINT

Big int has no limit

[tall dragon]

technically it has 🙂

[eternal oxide]

well, the size limit of your storage 🙂

[hollow pelican]

I just checked and it says that the array is null but I have no idea why that's the case since I do the exact same thing in another method.

[tardy delta]

null checks my friend

[hollow pelican]

😕

confusion

[tardy delta]

my css is confusing too

[kind hatch]

CSS isn't all that confusing though. :3

[tardy delta]

my html sucks so applying css to it is even worse

[hollow pelican]

I'm confused as to why the array is null when it's fine in my other method.

[kind hatch]

But it's soooooooo freaking easy

[tardy delta]

cant seem to put a margin between indidual li element

[hollow pelican]

I've done some debugging and it's made me even more confused ngl

[kind hatch]

Wdym by individual? Cause if you want a specific element to have different properties, usually a class is used. Alternatively you could use the nth-child pseudo selector if your have a fixed list.

[tardy delta]

well those are two li elements, where 2nd has a a elem in it and i cant find to apply a margin-top to the li

[kind hatch]

That's why you use tools like sass. It makes css far easier.

[tardy delta]

dunno if this is the #help-webdev channel but anyways

[vale ember]

wtf // in css?

[tardy delta]

ignore that lmao, it doesnt get included anyways

[kind hatch]

You can apply a margin-top to the li element itself, however it will do it for all li elements. Do you want the first one, the second one, or all of them to have the margin?

[tardy delta]

well ideally i'd have a button class

or <li><a></li> would be the best selector

[kind hatch]

You can use // in sass. Not sure if it's what they are using though.

[tardy delta]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[vocal cloud]

Just use a css comment of /* */

[kind hatch]

What are you going for then? I can't exactly help if I don't know what you want to get out of this.

[tardy delta]

i want to put a margin on top and on the bottom of a elements nested in a li

[kind hatch]

li <your element> {
  margin: 1rem 0;
}

Revised it

[tardy delta]

even putting a margin of 100px on my li a doesnt seem to change anything

[vocal cloud]

If you want all the children it's li *

[vale ember]

also ur trying to apply margin-top to awhich is inline, afaik u cant do that

[vocal cloud]

Applying margin to a elements is a bad idea

[kind hatch]

I mean, it depends on what you need. He could easily just make the list a display of flex and adjust the spacing with the gap property, but margin was the old way of doing it.

[kind hatch]

Aregcraft was right, it's due to it being an inline display. If you change the display to block on your a element, the margin will apply as expected.

[tardy delta]

"If you change the display to block on your a element" whats that supposed to mean

[kind hatch]

display: block; or display: inline-block;

You can change any element's display. Generally it's block by default, but certain ones have a different default.

[kind hatch]

There are also other types of displays. Popular ones including display: flex; and display: grid;

[tardy delta]

oh well display: block seems to work

[kind hatch]

I should also mention that because of this behavior, css reset files became popular so the seemingly random default styling wouldn't be an issue.

[vocal cloud]

Yeah, use a reset file always

[tardy delta]

only it seems to apply a background color over the whole length now, due to display: block

[kind hatch]

Try changing it to inline-block

Or set a width

Your choice

[tardy delta]

inline-block saved it

we got a real expert here

[kind hatch]

If you want to get fancy and forego the margins, you can do this instead.

li {
  display: flex;
  flex-direction: column;
  gap: 1rem;
}

Where gap is your spacing between elements.

[summer agate]

Ah, css, the bane of my existence

[vale ember]

tailwindcss 😎

[kind hatch]

Then you can style your inner elements as you see fit.

li a {
  display: inline-block;
  background: red;
}

[summer agate]

I usually use bootstrap/my own, I don't like the length of tailwind classnames

[sterile token]

Related to this topic, is there any markdown interpreter for ts?

Im planning to add system similar to github wiki or readme file

So when u upload a markdown file its displayed

[vale ember]

i also used bootstrap for my plugins website cuz its fast, but if i want more customization i choose tailwind and deal with class bloat in markup with sveltejs

[void mason]

can someone help me with this https://discordapp.com/channels/690411863766466590/741875863271899136/1039953447476265031 ?

[vocal cloud]

You can add velocity to items. Wouldn't that work?

[summer agate]

Perhabs this is what you're looking for? https://md-block.verou.me/

[void mason]

as i said im a noob at making plugins and its dificult for me to search because my english is trash

does velocity works for player ?

[summer agate]

Try it, idk

[sterile token]

LOVING YOU i have been looking to display mardowk via html for weeks. Really thanks man

[vocal cloud]

Velocity works on all entities

[void mason]

k thx

[summer agate]

All it took was a quick google search xD

[sterile token]

I didnt know how to search it

Im spanish also

[summer agate]

Honestly, searching is a skill of its own

[sterile token]

Yeah

[summer agate]

Don't blame you, I learned a thing too haha

[sterile token]

Wait keving taking a small look i realize that you can execute native js from the mardown file

💀

[void mason]

how can i check if an entity is walking on a block and apply a velocity if the if its the good block ?

[summer agate]

https://md-block.verou.me/#handling-untrusted-content

Doesn't that protect against that?

[tardy delta]

someone will come to talk about flex and grid for three hours lol

[summer agate]

Listen to player movement, if list of conveyor locations contains player then do stuff

[kind hatch]

I promise you it's not as hard as you think it is. :3

There are a lot of quirks sure, but for the most part, it's straightforward.

[summer agate]

I never actually learned css grid, I ususally do everything with flex, is there a point in grid if I already know flex?

[vale ember]

grid's more flexible

[kind hatch]

Yes, I hardly use grid as well, but there are plenty of cases where grid would be the better option. However, as with all things, it depends on your layout.

[tardy delta]

i couldnt enter webdev classes cuz i was too late for lesson today lol

[quaint mantle]

rip

[void mason]

i dont have a list of pconveyor locations.

the conveyor is just a block like a grass block or a wooden plank

[sterile token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3elGSZSWTbM&ab_channel=KevinPowell

[kind hatch]

Straight up. Learned most of my css knowledge from that channel.

[sterile token]

Oh nice bro its pretty amazing channel

[summer agate]

then check if block below is that

[void mason]

thanks

[fallow violet]

how can i store a location object in mongodb and read it without errors? If i store 0 for example and i try to get it as float or double im getting error that i cannot parse int to float or something like that

is there another way to store or read?

[summer agate]

is it stored as an int in your database?

[fallow violet]

the x y z cords are stored like that

can u store the whole object there?

[summer agate]

not sure

I'd say save xyz and world in seperate fields

[fallow violet]

yeah thats not my problem lmao

the problem: how can i store a long/double without the .0 because he removes it

and everytime i want to read a number without the .0 its an integer but i stored it as an long originally

yk what i mean

wait if you write 69L its a long right?

[remote swallow]

correct

[fallow violet]

how can i do this with double?

[alpine cairn]

Can anyone tell me how to get the spigot libraries for eclipse? After about an hour of searching I found that the spigot.jar for servers can't be used as a library and someone suggested using maven but I have no idea how to do that.

[hazy parrot]

69.0

[fallow violet]

the database converts this automatically to 69 - dunno why

[summer agate]

I would get into maven, it saves a lot of pain when working with dependencies, and/or even better, use Intellij with the minecraft plugin

[remote swallow]

https://bukkit.fandom.com/wiki/Plugin_Tutorial_(Eclipse)

[sterile token]

Kevia, save it in a document somth like:

Location location;

// For saving
Document document = new Document();
document.put("world", location.getWorld().getName());
document.put("x", location.getX());
document.put("y", location.getY());
document.put("z", location.getZ());

// For loading
Document document;
Location location = new Location(Bukkit.getWorld(document.getString()))

[fallow violet]

i did it like that but imagine the location.getY() is 69 without a number after the dot the database will automatically convert this shit to an integer and i dont know why but if i try document.getDouble() it tells me that i cannot convert an integer to a double

[tardy delta]

world uuid pls

[fallow violet]

yeah

[sterile token]

Integer = none decimal numbers
float = decimals numbers
doubloe = decimals numbers

[fallow violet]

yes BUT i need a double for the location object

[sterile token]

Location#getX() returns a double

Please check the docs

[fallow violet]

u dont get it my friend

[sterile token]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[sterile token]

READ bruh its not diff

[fallow violet]

i know how this works but my database is converting every double without a number after the dot to an integer and thats why im asking if i am able to prevent that or store the location object as whole

[sterile token]

Send code please

?paste

[fallow violet]

dont be rude thanks

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[sterile token]

Sorry im having my days

[tardy delta]

doubloe

store it as a double and read as a double, shouldnt cause problems right

[south nacelle]

Can anyone help me with this error?

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "org.bukkit.configuration.ConfigurationSection.getKeys(boolean)" because the return value of "org.bukkit.configuration.file.YamlConfiguration.getConfigurationSection(String)" is null

Which is weird because this is the config.

Players:
e454994c-62db-4a45-a469-889d18cd1429:
UUID: e454994c-62db-4a45-a469-889d18cd1429
NAME: PindaKaasGeitje

And this is the code to get the config

file = new File(Teams.getPlugin().getDataFolder() + "/players", name + ".yml");

            YamlConfiguration player = YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration(file);

            for(String p : player.getConfigurationSection("Players").getKeys(false)) {

[sterile token]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[south nacelle]

Sorry for long messag

[tardy delta]

section being null

[south nacelle]

oh

[sterile token]

Save it as a double and read it as double

[tardy delta]

bruh the messages i sent last arrive first

[fallow violet]

I DID

gimme some time to paste the code

[south nacelle]

Bruh it is not null

[sterile token]

@fallow violet sorry for being rude
Mongo document has a way to put and get stuff via double

[fallow violet]

bro wtf

I KNOW

[remote swallow]

?paste the full class and the config (on 2 different pastes)

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[sterile token]

So, which is your issuee?

[tardy delta]

excptions dont lie

[fallow violet]

dude T^T let me paste my fucking code

[sterile token]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[south nacelle]

i get that, but the section is littarly there

[remote swallow]

hes literally doing that, give him time

[fallow violet]

if u send me this link one more time >:C

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[fallow violet]

damn

[sterile token]

ok

Sorry to all i having my days.... im not with the best mood

[tardy delta]

is iit in your actual file or just in the file in your plugins resources folder?

[fallow violet]

https://paste.md-5.net/kegedimeko.java

[tardy delta]

that code worked fine for me

[south nacelle]

Code: https://paste.md-5.net/uhein
Actual config file: https://paste.md-5.net/vufecuhaqa.makefile

[remote swallow]

1st link isnt correct

[south nacelle]

yes its the actual file

[tardy delta]

none of those load lol

[south nacelle]

https://paste.md-5.net/uheretifaq.cs

[fallow violet]

@sterile token

[tardy delta]

isp moment

if file not exists, create it ig

[summer agate]

Perhabs you could conditionally get it as an int and then just convert it to a double on the java side?

[south nacelle]

Yes it already does that

[tardy delta]

this doesnt make sense, new FIle only creates a file object, but ::exists checks if the file exists on disk, if it doesnt, call plugin.saveResource("players.yml") or file::createNewFIle or smth

[fallow violet]

but sometimes i store a double maybe and then it converts it to int and the double is gone yk?

[tardy delta]

read it the other way but still doesnt make sense

also new File(fFile, uuid + ".yml")

automatically creates a file with fFile as parent folder

is my internet down again or are people just ignoring me?

[south nacelle]

im reading

[remote swallow]

isnt down

[south nacelle]

not ingoring

[tardy delta]

good

their reports page

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-moon-gif-22677469

[south nacelle]

But if the file does not exist i create one on plugin disable

[remote swallow]

why on disable

[south nacelle]

because its an object created ingame

and it saves it

[remote swallow]

if its just 1 file for player info, create the file if it doesnt exist on enable then have a getter

[south nacelle]

and on enables loads it again

[summer agate]

I've found a github issue from 2014 regarding this kind of behaviour, is your mongodb up to date?

[south nacelle]

Well it creates a file per player if they join the server. Then on disable it saves it so when you start the server again all the saved data is still there.

so thats why if file exists

[fallow violet]

i installed it yesterday so yes

i have a plan

i store it as long and convert it do double damn im smart

[tardy delta]

same gooes with jsonsimple

[fallow violet]

is there a way to get the default world name

or uuid

[tardy delta]

what default world? overworld?

[fallow violet]

yepp

or is there a way to get the level name in server.properties

[summer agate]

You can get all of them with Bukkit.getWorlds(). Then maybe index 0?

[tardy delta]

Bukkit.getWorlds().get(0) is overworld, 1 is nether and 2 is end, all others are custom

just call ::getUid on the world object

[fallow violet]

im trying this now

[sterile token]

Yeah

[tardy delta]

you can append an uuid too, it knows how to save it

[sterile token]

Then remember to do Bukkit#getWorld(UUID.fromString(document.getString("world")))

[sterile token]

No

I have try it

[tardy delta]

it has a dedicated codec

[fallow violet]

u cant

it gives error

[tardy delta]

so document.get(" ", UUID.class) should work

[fallow violet]

verano please stop this this is RUDE OKAY JUST STOP IT I KNOW HOW THE SHIT WORKS

[sterile token]

Im not rude

Im just seen that you have problems and im telling you help

So if dont want to get help, look for help via dms or other discord

This channel is public

💀

[tardy delta]

only high

[fallow violet]

i want help but only HELP not tipps that i dont need like i never asked for

WE KNOW US? WTF

[sterile token]

Lol

I didnt know that

Just realize we are friends

🤣

[fallow violet]

not anymore

[sterile token]

haha

[toxic sorrel]

Hiya. I'm attempting to implement Teams this into a custom plugin of mine, but I'm struggling to find any documentation for Teams anywhere. I'm attempting to add prefixes, suffixes, color, etc in tab, but I'm not having much luck. I would be extremely grateful if you had any suggestions or snippets of code that you could share. thanks

    public void initTeam(ProxiedPlayer player) {
        Team team = new Team();
        team.setName(player.getName());
        team.setDisplayName(player.getName());
        team.setNameTagVisibility("always");
        team.setCollisionRule("always");
        team.setColor(1);
        team.setPrefix("test");
        team.setSuffix("test");
        team.setMode((byte) 0);
        team.setPlayers(new String[] {player.getName()});
        for(UUID p : connectedPlayers) {
            ProxyServer.getInstance().getPlayer(p).unsafe().sendPacket(team);
        }

^this Team is net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet btw
and more specifically, the client is disconnecting with "Connection Lost" when this packet sends.

[fallow violet]

my premium solution xd

[dire salmon]

double with uppercase D?

[glass tangle]

does it even change anything

[dire salmon]

probably no

its just weird ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tardy delta]

damn my internet is fast

[remote swallow]

in this day and age? Not allowed

[fallow violet]

im sorry that i like using the upperace one if i use the function right next to it

[dire salmon]

lol

[glass tangle]

it's normal

[fallow violet]

(:

[fallow violet]

u happy now?

[gaunt moss]

Hi, how can I send a message in actionbar at login?

[dire salmon]

oh so it was a class? the one at the right

[flint coyote]

Send the actionbar message in the PlayerJoinEvent

[fallow violet]

Create an eventlistener that check PlayerJoinEvent and then u do Player#spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, TextComponent.fromLegacyText("MESSAGE"));

[toxic sorrel]

Attempting to push Team(defined packet)

[gaunt moss]

Also works with Paper?

[glass tangle]

yeah

paper is spigot fork

[fallow violet]

yes

[fallow violet]

you know how to create eventlistener?

[gaunt moss]

Yeah

[fallow violet]

alright

[serene sigil]

quick question: does InventoryCloseEvent call when a player is in an inventory but leaves the game without closing it?

[glass tangle]

no

[dire salmon]

i forgot about closing game lol

[serene sigil]

ye so u like alt+f4 when u are in an inv

[glass tangle]

just test it by yourself

[dire salmon]

https://tryitands.ee

[torn badge]

No if you just kill the process the client can’t send any packets anymore

[serene sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-brain-big-brain-math-pineapple-gif-gif-25841999

ye it does call

ty for ur help!1!1!

[torn badge]

How did you close the game?

[serene sigil]

alt+f4

[glass tangle]

that's a good question

[torn badge]

Try killing it from task manager

[serene sigil]

okay

whats the difference?

[glass tangle]

i don't think minecraft should send packets when game closes

[glass tangle]

terminates the minecraft without informing it

the minecraft

fuck

[serene sigil]

oh

[torn badge]

Alt+F4 still lets the program respond to the termination call

[serene sigil]

but a playerleaveevent calls right?

[torn badge]

Yeah that’s called by the server

[serene sigil]

still works with task manager!!!

lets fucking go

[torn badge]

Okay so InventoryCloseEvent is also called by the server, good to know

[serene sigil]

ye

[torn badge]

Probably because the server closes all open inventories once a player disconnects

[serene sigil]

yea

that makes sense cuz u are not in an inv after u join

[tardy delta]

fuck went back to coding and my commit seems to be undone

[serene sigil]

rip

[tardy delta]

all code gone

[glass tangle]

i did git clean once thinking it will erase git configuration lmao

[vocal cloud]

I would personally never run git clean

[glass tangle]

there should be a warning when running this command

[gaunt moss]

Is it possible to set a display time?

[glass tangle]

what

you mean for how long it will stay on screen?

[gaunt moss]

Yeah, sorry I don't speak English

[glass tangle]

you can call it in bukkit timer to show it again

[fallow violet]

i tried to set a time too but i failed xd just make a Bukkitraunnable with .repeatTaskTimer

[glass tangle]

// send actionbar message here
}, delay, periodInTicks);```

[fallow violet]

No use BukkitRunnable

[glass tangle]

why

[fallow violet]

its better :D

[tardy delta]

how can i undo a commit from github lol?

[agile anvil]

This is the same

[remote swallow]

scheduler > runnable

[fallow violet]

:C

[sonic goblet]

Thread.sleep() > scheduler

Like a chad

(Don’t use that)

[agile anvil]

some strong pain incoming : rollback to a previous commit locally and rebase the branch on that. On the paper it's easy but it never goes well 🙂 Good luck

[tardy delta]

runTaskTimer

[glass tangle]

why is my server not responding

[sonic goblet]

xd

[tardy delta]

its not better

aaaaa

[fallow violet]

if u wanna cancel its easier in bukkitrunnable with

[tardy delta]

no

[fallow violet]

yes

[tardy delta]

scheduler.runTask(plugin, task -> task.cancel())

[fallow violet]

wtf thats too much shit

cancel(); is better

[glass tangle]

i think you can do Bukkit.getServer().getScheduler().cancelTask(id) in sheduler

[fallow violet]

thats trash because u have to store id and you can cancel it in BukkitRunnable with ONE FUCKING line

[agile anvil]

Calling #scheduleSyncRepeatingTask basically need a BukkitRunnable so why are you even debating on this ?

[glass tangle]

thats trash because u have to store id that's true

[fallow violet]

YES

[fallow violet]

because. (:

[agile anvil]

You don't see it because you use lambda expression but you can cancel the task the same way 🙂

[fallow violet]

dont destroy my dreams now

[dire salmon]

no need to do getServer i think?

i mean i always do bukkit.getscheduler...

[fallow violet]

+1

did the same ages ago

but bukkitrunnable is better because its looking more beautiful >:C

accept.

my.

opinion.

and.

i will do the same

[sonic goblet]

Runnable do be better tho, lowkey

Fr fr

[fallow violet]

i hate u guys can we stop debating that bukkitrunnable is better? thanks

(:

[glass tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-skeleton-standing-dead-dead-server-dead-chat-gif-22383153

[gaunt moss]

It's a little bit complicated for me. I'm new to Java

[agile anvil]

Wait, how do you run your BukkitRunnable?

[glass tangle]

so what is complicated for you

[fallow violet]

new BukkitRunnable() {
    @Override
    public void run() {
        // cancel(); if u wanna cancel it
    }
}.runTaskTimer(instance, 0, 0);

[gaunt moss]

Thanks a lot for your help anyway!

[agile anvil]

oops I quote the docs: "Schedules this in the Bukkit scheduler" 😘

[fallow violet]

T^T

doc are liers (:

[agile anvil]

But just for you: BukkitRunnables are awesome

as well as BukkitSchedulers cause they're basically not the same

[fallow violet]

wait a second

[glass tangle]

i prefer never to go into docs because of light theme

[fallow violet]

this is more beautiful i change my mind

[glass tangle]

javadocs are so fucking ugly

[fallow violet]

tru

[remote swallow]

i use dark reader

they arent light mode

[dire salmon]

i use Bukkit.getScheduler().runTastTimer() lol

most of times

[agile anvil]

Dark theme is boring now, I've all switched back to light theme (except ide)

[glass tangle]

are you okay

[fallow violet]

discord light theme :Skull: x10

[dire salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-lightmode-gif-18450013

[fallow violet]

yes

exactly

u die if u activate it

[agile anvil]

Just breath, leave your cave and enjoy the sun light

then light theme seems like darkness

[glass tangle]

at night

[fallow violet]

@agile anvil i wanna apologise because i just wrote down the scheduler and its way more beautful im sorry :3

STOP REACTING >:C

[dire salmon]

ok im going (its night time for me)

[agile anvil]

It takes time to fully enjoy lambdas but then you'll never leave them

[sonic goblet]

Have a backbone

[glass tangle]

mf is humiliated

[fallow violet]

(:

[sonic goblet]

If you have an opinion stick to it

[agile anvil]

still your opinion can change over time

[sonic goblet]

I agree but their opinion changed within 3 minutes xd

[glass tangle]

this is why you should never share your opinions on twitter

[sonic goblet]

After they got pushback

[fallow violet]

xd

[fallow violet]

huh?

[tardy delta]

my wifi letting that image thro after 10 minutes.

[fallow violet]

xd

[glass tangle]

can't wait for twitter to cancel someone what he has done in a preschool as a child

[agile anvil]

soon you'll get this cool edit feature (but pay eight dollars pls)

[gaunt moss]

I tried to put the delay but the action bar remains displayed

[glass tangle]

stays until you disable plugin?

[gaunt moss]

Yes

[glass tangle]

you should set delay to 0 and period to 20 (that is 1 second)

[gaunt moss]

 @EventHandler
    public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        event.setJoinMessage("");

        Bukkit.getServer().getScheduler().scheduleSyncRepeatingTask(this, () -> {
            player.spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, TextComponent.fromLegacyText("§3TEST"));
        }, 5, 5);
    }

[somber hull]

Ye

[glass tangle]

                public Integer timesRan = 0;
                public Integer runSeconds = 3;
                @Override
                public void run() {
                    if (timesRan++ >= runSeconds) {
                        cancel();
                        return;
                    }
                    //your code
                }
            }, 0, 20);```
try this

ah yes spaces

[tardy delta]

set join message to null

[fallow violet]

what if u cancel PlayerJoinEvent? Does he get kicked?

[glass tangle]

it does nothing

[fallow violet]

whyy

dun make sense

[glass tangle]

idk

i think it will only cancel the player join message

[fallow violet]

sadge

[glass tangle]

every event is cancelable

[tardy delta]

isnt

[agile anvil]

They have to implements Cancellable 🙂

[alpine cairn]

Anyone coded a plugin before that wants to hop into a vc and try to help me?

[glass tangle]

oh

[agile anvil]

and still PlayerJoinEvent does not implement it, it's not

[fallow violet]

i would but im in vc rn sowwy mate

[alpine cairn]

Damn you finger slipped really far on that typo

[fallow violet]

not a typo :p

[alpine cairn]

I was giving you a chance to take it back

[glass tangle]

wtf 💀

[fallow violet]

damn i will never help u ever

[sonic goblet]

Absolutely Chad energy

[alpine cairn]

Good you'll probably start telling me about your favorite hentai or something

[fallow violet]

wha

[glass tangle]

please do not do this on nnn

[fallow violet]

wtf

im not watching hentai

[glass tangle]

yeah i also touch grass

[agile anvil]

are you guys really doing nnn?¿

[fallow violet]

im not but he thinks

[alpine cairn]

NNN is probably easy when the only girls you know have two dimensions

[glass tangle]

my girl has 0 dimensions

[fallow violet]

what is wrong with u @alpine cairn i wasnt rude to u but why u r rude to me?

[fallow violet]

same

[alpine cairn]

You said some weird shit to me off cuff I’m not just gonna pretend that’s normal

[fallow violet]

if u say so

i wish u good luck making a plugin lmao

[alpine cairn]

I can’t even get the spigot libraries to work on eclipse I’ve been trying to all day

[fallow violet]

karma

[sonic goblet]

Are you using the spigot-api jar?

[remote swallow]

use maven or gradle

[alpine cairn]

Ppl kept saying use maven but o can’t figure out what to download and where to put it

[glass tangle]

maven is shit

[fallow violet]

gradle better

[remote swallow]

https://bukkit.fandom.com/wiki/Plugin_Tutorial_(Eclipse)

[alpine cairn]

Yeah ngl I read that and it didn’t help

[glass tangle]

maven throws zip header end errors and for some reason this doesn't happen on gradle

[fallow violet]

+1

[remote swallow]

if you want to have it done in the easiest way possible get intellij with Minecraft Development plugin

[fallow violet]

but its a shitty way

[gaunt moss]

Does not work

[alpine cairn]

If you say so I’m just trying to start coding

[glass tangle]

fuck

[fallow violet]

u r rude to random ppl u deserve it

[sonic goblet]

He was rude because you typed something cringe

That’s not random

[glass tangle]

does it throw anything or what

[sonic goblet]

Unjustified maybe, not random

[gaunt moss]

I can send you the error in PM?

[alpine cairn]

Don’t say “sowwy” to strangers you gonna get bullied

[glass tangle]

you can send it here

[agile anvil]

send it here

[tardy delta]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[fallow violet]

i hope u never lean how to code

[gaunt moss]

https://paste.md-5.net/sodulekewo.sql

[sonic goblet]

Lol you got him

[alpine cairn]

💀I know how to code it’s just these stupid libraries

[fallow violet]

skill issue

[glass tangle]

show da code

[tardy delta]

doesnt change anything

[fallow violet]

there is something called google try this

[tardy delta]

compiler will do that anyways

[glass tangle]

weird

[alpine cairn]

All the tutorials are outdated been looking all day

[fallow violet]

i will help u if u say sorry and i will never write "sowwy" again okay

thanks

[glass tangle]

it works without L for some reason

[tardy delta]

i mean that code is a piece of shit, no reason why it doesnt work

just use runTaskTimer with a runnable

[alpine cairn]

Ok sorry

[fallow violet]

xd

[gaunt moss]

Same error

[glass tangle]

lmao

[tardy delta]

what?

[agile anvil]

delay is the time before the task starts, and period the time between each repetition

[agile anvil]

try 0L, 20L

[sonic goblet]

You are using the spigot.jar instead of the spigot-api.jar is my guess

[glass tangle]

you should show the code

[tardy delta]

when will people understand that that L suffix doesnt change anything at all lol

[gaunt moss]

https://paste.md-5.net/etofepevos.cs

[agile anvil]

this is a great thing for beginners to understand types

[alpine cairn]

Yeah I figured out you can’t use the regular jar after 1.17 but idk how the api is different

[tardy delta]

it definitly wont solve the error

[glass tangle]

i wish (Double) 0 was real

[sonic goblet]

Run BuildTools for 1.19.2 and it will produce an api jar for you to use

[tardy delta]

(Double)0.0 is real

[glass tangle]

ill check it

damn it

fucking java with 4 different types for numbers

[tardy delta]

glad you arent using c++ then

[glass tangle]

i'm glad i don't use c languages

[agile anvil]

This method is deprecated

[glass tangle]

microsoft java

[tardy delta]

lmfao

[wet breach]

the cool part is you can easily cast between them if necessary though and I think you mean primitives. There is types such as Number and such

[wet breach]

deprecated doesn't mean unusable, but it tells you the appropriate method to use in its place though so I don't see the issue

[gaunt moss]

Not work

[agile anvil]

Yeah but the UnsupportedOperation clearly means the method is dead 💀

[glass tangle]

well i cant cast (Double) to int

only Double.fromValue() or whatever it is called

[agile anvil]

?paste your code now please with the usage advised

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[wet breach]

Yes you can, Double is the object form of double, so to cast Double would be to cast it to Integer

[tardy delta]

we told to use runTaskTimer

[wet breach]

but those Classes typically have methods to convert like Integer has Integer.fromDouble or something similar to that effect

[fierce whale]

Is there anyway to play resource pack's custom sound?

[gaunt moss]

I give up it's too hard for me, thank you for your help!

[wet breach]

yeah you can't cast between class and primitive

[agile anvil]

Why would you give up??

You're almost done

[tardy delta]

cuz people tell him to use the wrong methods maybe

[gaunt moss]

I'm new to Java and I don't understand everything yet.

[wet breach]

at least you are honest

[gaunt moss]

Why lie

[wet breach]

some people who come here like to not believe they have limits

so they end up way over their head because they don't understand and refuse to believe their skills are not as great as they think lol

at least you are honest about your skill level and needing to learn more

[sterile token]

what talking about?

I wanna give my op

[tardy delta]

i was shit at java too when starting this 🥲

[sterile token]

Im a shit with java tho

[wet breach]

should started at Java's beginning

[river oracle]

I didn't know java when I started spigot

[wet breach]

would have had so much fun 😄

[sterile token]

Neither me

[gaunt moss]

I started 2 days ago to learn

[tardy delta]

java 1 😢

[glass tangle]

java before 1.8 was hell

[sterile token]

That why i dont like when ppl wants help without learnt java first

[wet breach]

1.6 was so much fun though

[river oracle]

Don't ask on here you will get turned away more often then not use Google and look up stuff about Java prior to applying to spigot

[wet breach]

lets also not forget 1.4

[tardy delta]

i started with java 7 or smth

[glass tangle]

there's too many java versions i don't know on which i started

[wet breach]

nice, well I hope you continue to learn. It doesn't take very long to get the hang of understanding it and applying some things

[gaunt moss]

Thanks you!

[wet breach]

you can easily learn java in like 3 months time where you can make stuff, not stuff of quality per-say but at least make things 😛

[river oracle]

Can vouch I did it

[agile anvil]

Java versions feels like minecraft versions to me. Before 1.8 it was slow as hell and now it's way too quick

[river oracle]

My first program was a minecraft plugin admittedly a bad one but it was a plugin that ironically enough was somehow good enough that someone wanted to buy it

[wet breach]

Well, Minecraft is one of the catalysts that brought Java back on the map

[sterile token]

Sadly i cannot say the same about Streams....

[river oracle]

Idk what else it's used for lol tbh

[agile anvil]

Well I meant version release speed

[wet breach]

I would say if there wasn't minecraft, Java would probably still be on the road to fully dying out

[agile anvil]

Not actual performance

[wet breach]

Java performance is actually not that bad anymore

it is now comparable

[agile anvil]

What ???

Java is everywhere

[alpine cairn]

Java is everywhere just not in games

[tardy delta]

android hehehe

[wet breach]

this wasn't the case before Minecraft

[agile anvil]

Mmh everything grows. I would be surprised if a game had such an impact

[wet breach]

before Minecraft which is 2010 time frame, There wasn't really much planned in ways of significantly improving java

[sterile token]

android 💀

[glass tangle]

i'll just ask here what is the best way to make custom items metadata because i use "#{ID}" at the bottom of lore or is it good enough

[agile anvil]

I'm maybe too young for this, but according to its history it's not the case

[wet breach]

Java 1.7 was the version then and had been for like several years, until minecraft came along and development of Java started to pick up because Minecraft hosting became super popular

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[sonic goblet]

And then they saw all the 12 year old kids playing Minecraft and decided to go ham further developing Java. True and real

[glass tangle]

in short what is this?

[wet breach]

not sure what history you are quoting

[agile anvil]

Before 2010 there wasn't many devices everywhere, or at all. It's like comparing an old community of ants with more than 100k bugs and a new one that is just born

[sonic goblet]

^^^

[alpine cairn]

Java is primarily an office program and always has been. Minecraft is the only major game that uses it

[agile anvil]

This example is shit as hell but I hope you understand me

[glass tangle]

holy shit

[wet breach]

If you are referring to android, it has always used its own version of java

[agile anvil]

I'm not referring android at all

[alpine cairn]

This did not work

[wet breach]

Well, Java wasn't as popular as you think it was. Most of what java might have been used for is some off brand embedded system

[agile anvil]

Most of the systems rely on Java : banks, erps, hr management, logistic systems, ...

[sonic goblet]

What part didn’t work? Did you get the spigot api jar?

[river oracle]

Or just use maven/gradle works as long as you don't need nms

[wet breach]

All the systems I have used from the above categories do not use java at all

[agile anvil]

At first it was mainly embedded I agree

[alpine cairn]

No it just generated more folders

[alpine cairn]

My brother in christ if you can give me a download I would gladly

[agile anvil]

So they must have been created long ago and starting to die

[river oracle]

Maven and gradle are build systems learn them

[sonic goblet]

https://www.simplilearn.com/ice9/free_resources_article_thumb/Evolution_of_Programming.png

[wet breach]

as I said Java wasn't popular mainly because Java actually sucked and it sucked for a long time. You didn't use Java unless there was just some weird requirement for it lol. Schools typically used Java but only for its web apps which that was shitty in itself too

[agile anvil]

That kind of studies require a context

[river oracle]

Both maven and gradle are good though I am used to maven I have nothing against gradlew

[alpine cairn]

Ngl I don't even know what this means I just need the spigot libraries

[sonic goblet]

I mean idk what to say, if you can’t even get BuildTools to work we have bigger problems. Try a YT video on it

[river oracle]

Learn Java learn maven

[glass tangle]

maven is good for beginners but not for your nerves

[river oracle]

Use the internet

[alpine cairn]

Maybe could have been the wrong version?

[alpine cairn]

I know basic java, haven't heard of maven before today

[wet breach]

maven is highly customizable

[glass tangle]

maven does dependency funny stuff

[wet breach]

if you know how to make java programs, you can make maven plugins to literally do anything you want it to

[glass tangle]

still i get zip end header for no fucking reason

i spent a fucking day on fixing it

still havent

[alpine cairn]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/ this look right?

[sonic goblet]

And “Minecraft revitalized Java” doesn’t? xd

[wet breach]

sounds like a corrupted archive then

[river oracle]

Just use maven or gradle

[glass tangle]

i have deleted the archive like 10 times lol

[river oracle]

If your against learning new things this won't end well for yoh

[sonic goblet]

Ya that’s the correct link. You have Java 17/18 right?

[wet breach]

it is kind of easier to have lived through it to see it. Especially the ramp up in Java development. Java versions took years to come out with release. Now its like every 6 months there is a new release

[agile anvil]

Never said that 😉

[glass tangle]

i still cant wait for java 1.9

[quaint mantle]

awesome

[alpine cairn]

I would i would prefer to not have to learn a whole new software just to get libraries for minecraft

[sonic goblet]

Oh.. you lived through it… nevermind then I had no idea. My mistake sir 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[alpine cairn]

Yes

[river oracle]

Welp your on the wrong track in life quit now

[alpine cairn]

Bruh what

[wet breach]

Java development picked up traction when Minecraft became popular, it didn't take long from once Minecraft became popular from one year of release that we got Java 1.8

[quaint mantle]

how are you gonna work with java and not know maven or gradle

[agile anvil]

Totally agree to your point, living it makes it more easy say, but still think we all need more data to conclude on smth

[wet breach]

And then, even quicker before Java 9 and then 10 because 9 had too many bugs lmao

[glass tangle]

some people don't start with maven

[alpine cairn]

uhh idk I really didn't think either was a requirement

[sonic goblet]

He made this same argument on another topic with someone else a day or two ago, just used personal experience as his definitive reason

[river oracle]

If your unwilling to learn no reason you should continue programming requires constant learning

[sonic goblet]

Very based

[quaint mantle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-plugin-with-maven-using-intellij-idea/

[sterile token]

Agree i dont know why i really get mad when ppl came for help and they dont even know the basis from Java

[glass tangle]

he uses eclipse i think

[wet breach]

I agree it is just an opinion until proven otherwise in regards to me saying that without Minecraft Java would probably have died

[quaint mantle]

loser

[river oracle]

Eclipse 👍🏽based

[alpine cairn]

Why are you lecturing me I just need spigot libraries because you can no longer use regular spigot.jar, why would I figure out how to use maven just to get a jar file if I don't have to

[wet breach]

but I believe Minecraft revitalized it

[quaint mantle]

@alpine cairn get intellij

[sterile token]

Eclipse 🤢 🤢 💀

[river oracle]

Because it's useful to you in the future

[sonic goblet]

Then say that next time instead of “Minecraft DID revitalize it” ❤️

[river oracle]

Learn a skill now that you'll likely need to learn later anyways

[sterile token]

@alpine cairn get intellij x2

[alpine cairn]

I just want to make a few MC plugins😥

[wet breach]

well thing is, Development on something doesn't just start to ramp up when nothing else is causing it to

There wasn't a sudden need for Java before Minecraft

[glass tangle]

does anyone here use vscode for java

[river oracle]

Me

[wet breach]

But since MC is made with Java and the projects like Bukkit and spigot used java for plugins

Java need just skyrocketed

and then it went outwards to other things

not sure if Github provides a timeline in regards to languages being used

[agile anvil]

I understand your point. And I think it's bad to learn java and maven in the same time. However you HAVE to use maven or graddle nowadays to use spigot. So my advice is just to stick to tutorials when using maven (without trying to understand if you don't want to), and you'll understand it better later. Everything will make sense

[wet breach]

but if they did, it probably could show the Java language just spiking between 2010-2012 time frame lmao

[glass tangle]

how it would look like to mod minecraft in lua

[alpine cairn]

Okay, thanks. In that case does it matter whether I use eclipse or intelliJ?

[wet breach]

you would need a plugin to expose API's to lua and incorproate lua to make lua work since lua isn't standalone and doesn't work on its own

[river oracle]

No but intellij is more widely used

I prefer eclipse

But it's up to you

[tardy delta]

🎉

[glass tangle]

it kinda doesn't matter but intellj is better in my opinion

[alpine cairn]

Any reason in particular?

[glass tangle]

new year wooo

[quaint mantle]

better linting, more tools, better theming

[tardy delta]

4 hours sleep for college again 🙄

[glass tangle]

i forgor

[river oracle]

Just use vscode like me

[tardy delta]

ill sleep in the afternoon

[river oracle]

Lol

[tardy delta]

gn yall

[quaint mantle]

Die

[sonic goblet]

I wonder what the shareholder meeting was like of the CEO of Oracle trying to rationalize furthering millions of dollars of development because the kids game Minecraft was starting to take off

[quaint mantle]

Vscode only good for web dev

[sonic goblet]

How do you think they convinced the shareholders to go for it

[tardy delta]

and rust

[agile anvil]

Still it doesn't mean it's correlated. I have some difficulties to agree this opinion cause to me, Minecraft developers community is mainly a "beginner and young range" (I bet more than 75% of current devs started programming with mc). I personnaly began programming at 12 with Minecraft, and 80% of my dev friends were in the same age range

[quaint mantle]

Also wrong

[glass tangle]

web development 💀

[tardy delta]

what ya using then

[quaint mantle]

IntelliJ

Whatdya think

[tardy delta]

web dev is webstorm

[glass tangle]

hell no

[tardy delta]

if you got a licence atleast ig

[quaint mantle]

Ive never tried any of the paid ides

[wet breach]

it wasn't kids who made bukkit

[quaint mantle]

but im sure thats wrong

[tardy delta]

we gotta use all the jetbrains stuff for college

[quaint mantle]

webstorm doesnt look good

id rather use vscode

[tardy delta]

now im going to bed lol

plugins and themes lol

[sterile token]

Stop arguing please

Stop it

[tardy delta]

stop doing weed

[quaint mantle]

Maybe i do free trial

[tardy delta]

gh student

[agile anvil]

Yeah but there weren't thousands of devs on Bukkit, and there impact was nothing on the Java community

[sterile token]

gh?

[tardy delta]

github

[agile anvil]

Maybe they improved some of Java

[sterile token]

You are github studiante?

[agile anvil]

But the impact is like a water drop

[wet breach]

it took a couple of years before Java became popular which is the same time frame for bukkit and mc becomming popular

[sonic goblet]

What does that mean

When was Java not popular

[glass tangle]

adobe dreamwiener is the only paid ide i know

always pirate adobe software

[sonic goblet]

Leading up to 2015 show me where Java wasn’t Popular

[wet breach]

Java was never popular before MC because it really sucked

[sonic goblet]

Can I see some evidence

[wet breach]

had memory leaks out the wazoo its web applications sucked as well

[sonic goblet]

Cause everything I’ve seen says it was the most used still

[quaint mantle]

Im trying out webstorm

Gonna see if its any good

[glass tangle]

spoiler it's not

[wet breach]

not sure what you are reading that says that unless you believe what oracle tells you

[sonic goblet]

XDDDD

True dude, I’ve fallen for “big oracle”

You’ve seen past the fog

[wet breach]

every company brags and exaggerates how much their products are used

[sonic goblet]

I’m on 3rd party sites and they’re all saying the same thing

Can you show me a site that doesn’t?

[glass tangle]

3 BILLION DEVICES LETS GOOO

[wet breach]

I can tell you areas where Java is not used

[sonic goblet]

…

I rest my case

[river oracle]

Where do those sites get that data all food for thought not necessarily going against your case

But an important question none the less

[wet breach]

the US military does not use Java

And a lot of other government places do not use Java as well

So already there is a big chunk of the market gone not using it

[glass tangle]

js -> ts, java -> kotlin?

[river oracle]

What do they use ?

C?

[agile anvil]

But why would a company buy the language $8B if it sucked and wasn't used?

[wet breach]

Java came before JS

[quaint mantle]

RUST !!!

[river oracle]

Kotlin is mid as hell

[glass tangle]

ik

[wet breach]

ah yes companies never make mistakes

[sonic goblet]

xd

[agile anvil]

Did they a mistake?

[wet breach]

Yes but a good one though

[glass tangle]

i hate kotlin for calling function a fun

[river oracle]

Tbh I doubt minecraft was the sole driving factor in the Langs survival. I do however think it was a driving factor as it led to a lot of demand

[eternal night]

Java was never popular before MC because it really sucked

[agile anvil]

they at least call it a function 🙂

[river oracle]

Method > function

My mind can't be changed

I'm stuck in my java ways

[glass tangle]

ah yes function is method and variable is field

[agile anvil]

So how do you call f here: f(x) = 5x ?

[wet breach]

Had oracle not bought Java, it also probably would have died, also since Oracle didn't see much of a way to profit from Java it remained free for private use to such an extent that once MC made it popular for those wanting to learn a programming language, and then since Java had a much larger following then it ever had, Oracle attempted to make a profit that it created such a backlash that Oracle didn't keep going with that idea for fear of losing their following as quick as they gained it lmao

[glass tangle]

doesn't android run java

[river oracle]

That's math that's dif

Don't do me like that

[agile anvil]

But computers are basically doing only maths 🙂

[river oracle]

Shut up shut up shut up new ideas I can't handle it

[wet breach]

No, it implements the Java API but uses a custom JVM

[river oracle]

Fine I yield my opinion but I'll continue to call them methods out of pure spite

[glass tangle]

so why people hate java when there's c# which is kinda the same

[river oracle]

C# sucks

[agile anvil]

Ahah I totally agree, I also prefer methods

[wet breach]

c# was created when Sun Microsystems still owned Java

Anyways so how that happened was like so

[river oracle]

Why was c# even made its just a Java with a reskin I swear

[glass tangle]

microsoft presents java

oracle c#

[wet breach]

Sun microsystem allowed creating custom JVM's but to be considered an Official JVM you had to submit it to Sun Microsystems for them to test it and vet it to see if it met the criterias they created. If it passed you got a stamp from them sayings it is an Official JVM

Anyways, so Microsoft submitted one to them

they rejected it

Microsoft decided instead of throwing all that work away, they created C# out of it

so this is why C# and Java are similar 🙂

[river oracle]

Now we have gross java reskin

[glass tangle]

vm languages are great for debugging

[river oracle]

Microsoft should just do the right thing and dispose of C#

[eternal night]

why hasn't everyone switched to v yet

[glass tangle]

what the fuck is v

[quaint mantle]

unstable