#help-development | SpigotMC | Page 181

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 AM

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i wanna see how this turns out

fluid river Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 AM

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gtg sleep

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you can't stream in spigotmc voice chat tho

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just send screenshots

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 AM

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kek

fluid river Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 AM

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true

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 AM

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starting up my test server

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 1:45 AM

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if im using spigot maven, for the class body do i have to add extends JavaPlugin, because when i try to do that it gives me an error

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 1:47 AM

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nah

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i had 2 eat

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@fluid river

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doesnt work

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spams this

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https://paste.md-5.net/cerefitahi.pl

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@last temple

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@fresh timber

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pls

fresh timber Oct 13, 2022, 2:01 AM

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bro

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at this point just use @ everyone

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xD

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:01 AM

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@everyone

fresh timber Oct 13, 2022, 2:02 AM

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I wasnt keepin up with conversation hold on

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:02 AM

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fresh timber I wasnt keepin up with conversation hold on

bascialyl they ffixed it bujt now i havfe a new erorrr

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https://paste.md-5.net/cerefitahi.pl

fresh timber Oct 13, 2022, 2:02 AM

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ok im lookin

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:03 AM

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fresh timber ok im lookin

my new soruce kcodehttps://paste.md-5.net/sataqeporo.java

fresh timber Oct 13, 2022, 2:03 AM

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btw im kinda new too so I might not be able to solve everything, I started like a month ago

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im lookin tho

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yea idk

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I cant read errors lol

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I mean

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:04 AM

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full error
https://paste.md-5.net/odefapazey.cs

fresh timber Oct 13, 2022, 2:04 AM

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I dont have enough experience with a lot of them to know what it means

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:05 AM

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how can i fix

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shud i give u my source code/

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then wut

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im doin it anyway

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https://paste.md-5.net/qohiwaceda.java

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yea its the operation

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how fix

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bruh

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k

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maybe cause reader is greyed out

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theres a docs on it

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lemme give it to u

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btw

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i tried that

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https://worldedit.enginehub.org/en/latest/api/examples/clipboard/#schematic-examples

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?

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o

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im cofused

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which try functin

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k

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errooor at format

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this is wut i have now

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v

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https://paste.md-5.net/budicoholu.java

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where sud i put it

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ok shud i try it 🤞

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show what once again

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    public void chunkLoad(ChunkLoadEvent e) {
        if (e.isNewChunk()) {
            try (EditSession editSession = WorldEdit.getInstance().newEditSession(BukkitAdapter.adapt(e.getWorld()))) {
                Operation operation = new ClipboardHolder(clipboard)
                        .createPaste(editSession)
                        .to(BlockVector3.at(e.getChunk().getX() * 16, 40 ,e.getChunk().getZ() * 16))

                        .build();
                Operations.complete(operation);
            }
        }
    }```

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    public void onEnable() {
        // Plugin startup logic
        System.out.println("Backrooms Plugin enabled");
        ClipboardFormat format = ClipboardFormats.findByFile(file);
        getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);
        try (ClipboardReader reader = format.getReader(new FileInputStream(file))) {
            // Stuff here
        } catch (FileNotFoundException ex) {
            Bukkit.getLogger().severe("Schematic file doesn't exist!");
            ex.printStackTrace();
        } catch (IOException ex) {
            Bukkit.getLogger().severe("Error reading schematic file!");
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }

    File file = new File("Backrooms.schem");
    Clipboard clipboard;```

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    public void onEnable() {
        // Plugin startup logic
        System.out.println("Backrooms Plugin enabled");
        ClipboardFormat format = ClipboardFormats.findByFile(file);
        getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);
        try (ClipboardReader reader = format.getReader(new FileInputStream(file))) {
            // Stuff here
        } catch (FileNotFoundException ex) {
            Bukkit.getLogger().severe("Schematic file doesn't exist!");
            ex.printStackTrace();
        } catch (IOException ex) {
            Bukkit.getLogger().severe("Error reading schematic file!");
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }

    File file = new File("Backrooms.schem");
    Clipboard clipboard;
    clipboard = reader.read();```

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theres an erroor tho

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kinda stupid 💀

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ooooooooooo

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yea

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im confirmed idito

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i thought u meant lke the wordledit command

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//br

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and shit

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ong im not

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💀

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ok

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i built the plugin

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testing time

undone axleBOT Oct 13, 2022, 2:23 AM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 2:23 AM

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why

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https://paste.md-5.net/regeluromi.java

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@last temple

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uhm

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https://paste.md-5.net/ucavoliqaj.sql

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it crashed

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kek

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how 2 optimze

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im not good at java

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💀

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yea playerloaded

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@last temple

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how to make the world a flat world

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pls telll

tranquil stump Oct 13, 2022, 3:48 AM

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where should I go to report that the javadocs are wrong?

remote swallow Oct 13, 2022, 3:48 AM

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?support prob

undone axleBOT Oct 13, 2022, 3:48 AM

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tmp-support@spigotmc.org

tranquil stump Oct 13, 2022, 3:49 AM

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temporary support?

hasty prawn Oct 13, 2022, 4:56 AM

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tranquil stump where should I go to report that the javadocs are wrong?

Whats wrong with them

tranquil stump Oct 13, 2022, 4:57 AM

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in potion effect it says its in ticks but its really in milliseconds

torn oyster Oct 13, 2022, 5:18 AM

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is there a way to store a Consumer<> in PDC?

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 5:18 AM

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tranquil stump in potion effect it says its in ticks but its really in milliseconds

Doubt that

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 5:20 AM

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even if, potioneffect is not the one to blame

tranquil stump Oct 13, 2022, 5:22 AM

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Oh it might not be milliseconds actually

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Either way when using it 100 is worth 1 second

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That’s what happened when I used it

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 5:24 AM

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100 would be 5 seconds

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:33 AM

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can someone help me with a problem? so basically i am using spigot maven for a 1.19 project and my main class looks like this:

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`package scribble2;

public class Main extends JavaPlugin{

public void onEnable (){
    
    
}

}
`

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For some reason it gives me an error on the JavaPlugin

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part

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it says it cannot be resolved to a type

onyx fjord Oct 13, 2022, 5:33 AM

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Don't name your main class main btw

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:33 AM

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ok

onyx fjord Oct 13, 2022, 5:33 AM

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Did you import javaplugin?

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 AM

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No i used maven

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spigot maven respitory

onyx fjord Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 AM

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What

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🤦‍♂️

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You must import the class

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 AM

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<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 https://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd"> <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion> <groupId>me.scribble2</groupId> <artifactId>scribble2</artifactId>
` <version>1</version>
<name>scribble2</name>
<description>A very scribbly project</description>

<repositories>

<repository>
<id>spigot-repo</id>
<url>https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/</url>
</repository>
</repositories>

<dependencies>

<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
<version>1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>
</project> `

my xml file looks like this

onyx fjord Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 AM

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I'm telling you what to do

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 AM

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oh ok

onyx fjord Oct 13, 2022, 5:35 AM

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Hover on it and IDE should help you importing

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 5:35 AM

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it gives me 2 options

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1 Creat class JavaPlugin
2: fix project setup

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 5:50 AM

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You need to import the JavaPlugin class in your Main class

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Hey guys I have a question. You know that Minecraft have a World NBT where you can add data to the World and then get it etc. And my question is can we get this World NBT and edit it? Like in Minecraft modding this World NBT can be useful for saving blocks and many other things

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:25 AM

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something like a PDC for a world?

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it does inherit from PersistentDataHolder, so it has that

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 6:26 AM

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yeah

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:26 AM

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yeah, since World is a pdh, you can just use https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataHolder.html#getPersistentDataContainer()

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otherwise chunks also have pdcs

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which are probably just the worlds pdc with their own section

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 6:27 AM

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oh wow

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how I haven’t seen that 🤣

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:27 AM

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whats the saying? even a seeing chicken misses seeds?

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 6:28 AM

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Thanks guys for showing me

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:28 AM

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that makes 5€

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:28 AM

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5? thats cheap af

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:28 AM

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i am cheap

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:29 AM

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I am refraining from saying something funny but insulting

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sorry XD

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:29 AM

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weak

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:29 AM

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😮

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https://tenor.com/view/captain-holt-chair-cap-holt-turn-chair-now-youve-done-it-gif-14454479

Tenor

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:30 AM

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hybrid spoke i am cheap

dont I know it

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 6:30 AM

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5€ for just showing a method that exists

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:31 AM

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maybe we made that method

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and every use of it costs

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:31 AM

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it mainly costs sanity and social life time usually

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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you just destroyed it

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he would've payed for every use

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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I destroy many things

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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destroy yourself please

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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been doing that since day one

frail gale Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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imagine this existed everytime you use a method in Spigot and it charge you some money

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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good

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:32 AM

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now its your turn on the destruction cipher

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:33 AM

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a god cant be destroyed

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:33 AM

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let me show you

sterile axle Oct 13, 2022, 6:33 AM

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a god can be destroyed if no one believes in it

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https://tenor.com/view/troll-face-steamboat-willie-smile-driving-dancing-gif-17150127

Tenor

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

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a god without following is nothing but a person
and people can be destroyed

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

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so as long as i believe in myself i will stay undestroyed

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

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whats the dnd rule for when someone becomes a god?

sterile axle Oct 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

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dont worry, the world will break that self belief at some point

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

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but you are gladly invited to join the men religion

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:35 AM

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hybrid spoke but you are gladly invited to join the men religion

radical feminists would like to have a word with you

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😦

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:36 AM

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sterile axle dont worry, the world will break that self belief at some point

so i will have to break the world first

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:36 AM

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hold on, is this your super villain origin story?

sterile axle Oct 13, 2022, 6:38 AM

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i sent an image in #general but i meant it for here, but

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well

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whatever

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:39 AM

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every non-member of the men religion is our enemy

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sounds kinda racist

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its not racist if you arent racist

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simple as that

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:40 AM

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its not racist, its classist since not only men can join, right?

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:41 AM

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yeah, since also in woman is a man

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pun intended

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:41 AM

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request to rename religion to "man religion"

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:42 AM

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but we are many, so men 🤔

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:42 AM

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but we are also so many, so man

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anywho, discourse should conclude

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:42 AM

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good point, man-y

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:43 AM

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I hate the fact that theres no #offtopic channel

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:43 AM

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not anymore at least. there once was one

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:44 AM

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goddamnit, who messed it up

hybrid spoke Oct 13, 2022, 6:44 AM

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who needs an offtopic channel if we have #help-development

crimson terrace Oct 13, 2022, 6:44 AM

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true

mighty pier Oct 13, 2022, 11:26 AM

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help me with homework 👍

tardy flame Oct 13, 2022, 11:27 AM

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Jebać disa

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:19 PM

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Well I managed to create the backrooms

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But

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It needs serious optimization s

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It crashes my 4 gb test server

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Every 5 mins

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

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👀

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

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And also

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I'm planning 2 add more levels

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So pls

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Help

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

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No

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

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river oracle No

Y

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

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I mean, you did not provide anything concrete to help you with

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:21 PM

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eternal night I mean, you did not provide anything concrete to help you with

Should I give you my source code??

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:21 PM

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Eh, I mean what is your concrete issue

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:21 PM

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eternal night Eh, I mean what is your concrete issue

Lag

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:22 PM

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That usually is somewhat hard to find. Have you run a spark profile ?

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To figure out what is taking up most of your tick

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:22 PM

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eternal night To figure out what is taking up most of your tick

It was local hosted

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But

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:22 PM

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it will be fairly easy to find if it's crashing it every 5 minutes

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:22 PM

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I did not have a spark profuler

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Well yea if it crashes I'd presume you have an error

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Well heres what I'm attempting to do with my plugin

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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eternal night Well yea if it crashes I'd presume you have an error

Oh no the backrooms still generate

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No errors

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Other than

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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wtf are the backrooms xD

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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its a memory leak#

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Ran out memory

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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ah

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so yea

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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you are creating sometrhign over and over

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Yea

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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probably adding to some list

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and never removing

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Pasting schematics in every loaded Chunk

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Probably why its crashing

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

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eternal oxide you are creating sometrhign over and over

I'm pasting schematics in every loaded chunk..

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

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I mean

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that should not really go OOM

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

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then you are doing it too fast

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

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eternal oxide then you are doing it too fast

Probably didn't specify how fast to paste them

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

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easiest would be to just have the jvm give you the heap dump

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how would fast printing the schematic lead to an OOM

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wouldn't that just end up in an angry watchdog

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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pasting a schematic can force load adjacent chunks

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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Yea

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I think

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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oh lol

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right I did forget about that

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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eternal oxide pasting a schematic can force load adjacent chunks

Well how do I delay the scemhatic

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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Still, should not eat memory

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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Pastong thing

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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There has to be somethign else too

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:26 PM

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eternal oxide Still, should not eat memory

Welll ill give h my source code

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@eternal oxide
https://paste.md-5.net/regeluromi.java

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@eternal night

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:31 PM

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eternal night how would fast printing the schematic lead to an OOM

it can also lead to OOM if objects are not being freed up to give new objects room

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other then the other chunks loading

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:31 PM

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wet breach other then the other chunks loading

Well my source code ks above

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*is

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:32 PM

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I mean, then you'd have the GC run aggressively

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:32 PM

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eternal night I mean, then you'd have the GC run aggressively

Eh

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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The only obvious thing I see is, you should register your event listener after you have loaded your schematic

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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eternal oxide The only obvious thing I see is, you should register your event listener after y...

Alr

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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raw prairie Well my source code ks above

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/generator/BlockPopulator.html

BlockPopulator (Spigot-API 1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.generator, class: BlockPopulator

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use this if its suppose to be something for new chunks all the time

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:34 PM

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Well wbu this: paste schematics as far as only the player can see

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:34 PM

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it will be more efficient then waiting on the chunk to generate first before adding in your change

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:34 PM

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K

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:35 PM

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this will cause the chunk to generate with your changes already added in, then it shouldn't matter if adjacent chunks load

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:36 PM

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wet breach this will cause the chunk to generate with your changes already added in, then i...

Wait I'm confused on how to use it however

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It says you need a custom chunk generator

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Which i don't have

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:36 PM

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it says you can use it with a custom chunk generator

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 A BlockPopulator can be used in combination with a custom ChunkGenerator by returning it in the method ChunkGenerator.getDefaultPopulators(World) or by adding it manually to the worlds populator list returned by World.getPopulators().

When adding a BlockPopulator manually to a world it is recommended to do so during the WorldInitEvent.

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:37 PM

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Oh

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Mbmb

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:38 PM

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wet breach it says you can use it with a custom chunk generator

One last question

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Before I tyr to implement it

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Where do I put it 💀💀

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Anyway ty doe

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@wet breach does blockpopulator also apply to 1.19 api?

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:40 PM

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as it says above, worldinitevent

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is the most ideal place

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:40 PM

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raw prairie <@227800863022907393> does blockpopulator also apply to 1.19 api?

yes

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:40 PM

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Hi. I'm trying to add an NBT tag to an item to store a value. I'm following "The complete guide to itemstack nbttags and attributes" at the moment. It requires CraftBukkit as a dependency. I am just wondering if there is a simpler way someone knows that I can do this with? I've discovered setLocalizedName but not sure if it would be correct to use it

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:41 PM

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karmic mural Hi. I'm trying to add an NBT tag to an item to store a value. I'm following "The...

what exactly is the purpose of using NMS to set NBT tags?

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depending on your purpose you probably could just use the API 🙂

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:42 PM

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I want to store a value that I can use for further work in my plugin, but that is not visible to players

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:42 PM

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you can easily use the metadata api for that then

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also players have persistent data as well

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so you could even use PDC API

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:43 PM

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Same thing I'd use for setting item lore and such, I assume? How do I set data there that is not visible to player but useable in code?

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:44 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataHolder.html

PersistentDataHolder (Spigot-API 1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.persistence, interface: PersistentDataHolder

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:44 PM

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wet breach also players have persistent data as well

Yeah like they're their own database for things like inventory etc stored in playerdata files?

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:44 PM

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kind of

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but it is something that will let you do what you are wanting

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and it doesn't require NMS, just all with the api 😄

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:45 PM

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Hmm... That's good to know for future plans, but for now I just need to store data in the item itself

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 12:45 PM

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What does the worldinit event docs mean by this

To get every world it is recommended to add following to the plugin.yml

wet breach Oct 13, 2022, 12:46 PM

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karmic mural Hmm... That's good to know for future plans, but for now I just need to store da...

items have pdc too

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as you can see above, items are part of the subinterface of that api

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

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I'll have to do some reading, I'm still a bit confused as to how I should use this.

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

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?pdc

undone axleBOT Oct 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

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Thank you, Lynx

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 12:49 PM

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I just linked the thing, thank frostalf 😅

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 12:49 PM

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I was about to, but I will now, thank you @wet breach

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confusing wording, regardless. Thank you both, this will help

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:00 PM

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how can i have an event of falling blocks placing themselves?

dire marsh Oct 13, 2022, 1:04 PM

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midnight shore how can i have an event of falling blocks placing themselves?

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityChangeBlockEvent.html

EntityChangeBlockEvent (Spigot-API 1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.event.entity, class: EntityChangeBlockEvent

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:05 PM

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u sure?

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 1:05 PM

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NamespacedKey key = new NamespacedKey(pluginInstance, "our-custom-key");
ItemMeta itemMeta = itemStack.getItemMeta();
itemMeta.getPersistentDataContainer().set(key, PersistentDataType.DOUBLE, Math.PI);
itemStack.setItemMeta(itemMeta);``` 

So that "pluginInstance" it's looking for there, am I right to assume I need to give it my main class?

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:06 PM

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yes

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:12 PM

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Does anyone know how to update a player's command tree? I was successfully able to register/unregister commands at runtime, I just need to figure out how to update the client's command tree

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Is there any forum on spigot/bukkit websites about this?

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:14 PM

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Didn't even know players had a command tree

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:14 PM

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The server sends a list of all commands and arguments to the client upon joining, the client then stores this and uses it for auto completion or something

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There is a client side command tree though

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I am sure about that

drowsy helm Oct 13, 2022, 1:14 PM

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I think you can just send the packet

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:14 PM

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Couldn't you just resend that packet ^

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:15 PM

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I mean yeah, I guess

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Time for NMS

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:15 PM

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Idk why but I thought you were doing this for your fabric integration lol

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:16 PM

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Eh no

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Fabric integration is coming pretty slowly imo xD

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:16 PM

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Give up on that yet xD

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:16 PM

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Nope

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:16 PM

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Aye maybe in a year or 2

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:16 PM

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I am going in bursts

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I do a lot of stuff really quickly but then I pause for a bit

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:17 PM

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rough drift I do a lot of stuff really quickly but then I pause for a bit

My work style right here

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:17 PM

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Last "burst" I got plugins loading with dependencies and stuff

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 1:17 PM

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Glad to see I'm not the only person with that arguably not very good work style lol

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:22 PM

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rough drift Does anyone know how to update a player's command tree? I was successfully able ...

There's a Player#updateCommands method, but as of what version, I'm not sure. https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#updateCommands()

Player (Spigot-API 1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.entity, interface: Player

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Also not sure if that does exactly what you're looking for, manually modifying/sending the packet may be better if you need strict control over the result for any reason.

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:25 PM

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How can i raycast for multiple entities? I looked into World.rayCastEntities but the RaycastResult only supports one entity

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 1:26 PM

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Invalid key. Must be [a-z0-9/._-]: Does this mean the key must be lowercase?

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 1:26 PM

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yes

rough drift Oct 13, 2022, 1:27 PM

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static ingot There's a Player#updateCommands method, but as of what version, I'm not sure. ht...

Thanks! I do not need full control so this is perfectly fine

fluid river Oct 13, 2022, 1:28 PM

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midnight shore How can i raycast for multiple entities? I looked into World.rayCastEntities but...

for loop

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:29 PM

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Please read the whole statement

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:30 PM

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midnight shore How can i raycast for multiple entities? I looked into World.rayCastEntities but...

Perhaps you could use a predicate as a crude stand-in for a consumer, just add it to a collection and return false in your predicate for all entities so that it continues until it's exhausted all entities that could possibly be a raytrace result.

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:32 PM

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What its the best way for coding, coding everything and testing or coding and testing each new feature?

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:32 PM

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static ingot Perhaps you could use a predicate as a crude stand-in for a consumer, just add i...

actually the predicate might only apply to the first raytrace result anyway

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thonk

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:33 PM

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static ingot Perhaps you could use a predicate as a crude stand-in for a consumer, just add i...

So there isn't any method for doing it? Like am I the only one that needs multiple entity raycast? lol

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:33 PM

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static ingot actually the predicate might only apply to the first raytrace result anyway

Loop thru the collection and predicate each index

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:34 PM

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i think i will make my own raycast system with entities

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:34 PM

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sterile token Loop thru the collection and predicate each index

that's not even really applicable to what either of us are saying, lol

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:34 PM

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midnight shore i think i will make my own raycast system with entities

No need to reinventa the wheel when it was al ready invented

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:34 PM

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midnight shore i think i will make my own raycast system with entities

yeah, i'd guess people who really care about it have probably come up with their own solutions

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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static ingot that's not even really applicable to what either of us are saying, lol

Hi maow, how are you?

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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sterile token No need to reinventa the wheel when it was al ready invented

but there isn't any method to do what i need

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what should i do?

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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midnight shore but there isn't any method to do what i need

What do you need to doP

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I didnt understand raytraxing thing

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Raycast for multiple entities

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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What that!!

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM

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not only one like the World.raycastEntities method does

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Like

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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why are you trying to give advice if you don't even know what it is, lol

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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i have a raycast

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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Hey maow you changed a lot

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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i want to get every entity it hits

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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You werent like that

midnight shore Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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not just one

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM

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I don't even know you 🤨

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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midnight shore i want to get every entity it hits

Ohh ok I realize if do a proper method Implement it into spigot making a pull request

ivory sleet Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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Verano, they're not the same person

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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Oh that makes sense

ivory sleet Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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Maow still left this community

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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I thought he was Mao

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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rip

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:37 PM

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What?

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He left

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I was looking him for ages

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And i cannot find him

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:38 PM

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ye. i'm just mauwh. formerly escad. lmao

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 1:49 PM

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?paste

undone axleBOT Oct 13, 2022, 1:49 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 1:50 PM

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maow returned didnt he?

ivory sleet Oct 13, 2022, 1:50 PM

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dont think so?

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 1:51 PM

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hmm then hes gone again

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he definitly did

remote swallow Oct 13, 2022, 1:51 PM

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we need a join message chanel

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channel

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:52 PM

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no good reason to imo, lol

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just seems nosy in a community like this

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~~or any community really~~

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Would I need multiple keys if I want to store two different string values? java NamespacedKey testKey = new NamespacedKey(plugin, "testItem"); ItemStack testItem = new ItemStack(Material.DIRT, 1); ItemMeta testMeta = testItem.getItemMeta(); testMeta.getPersistentDataContainer().set(key, PersistentDataType.STRING, "String Value");

static ingot Oct 13, 2022, 1:59 PM

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karmic mural Would I need multiple keys if I want to store two different string values? ```ja...

your key is gonna give you an illegalargumentexception though, "testItem" needs to be completely lowercase

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 1:59 PM

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Or could I theoretically store a json string in the persistent data container? Would it be better?

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 1:59 PM

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static ingot your key is gonna give you an illegalargumentexception though, "testItem" needs ...

Thanks, I discovered this earlier and forgot to edit my example code before pasting here

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 1:59 PM

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Well you could store json for sure

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tho like

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for custom items, just have a single key for the item id

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if that is what you are going for

karmic mural Oct 13, 2022, 2:01 PM

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Thanks for the answers :)

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 2:34 PM

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What are the best libraries for Java Spigot?

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 2:35 PM

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none

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you decide what plugin you are going to write, then decide if you need a library

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:37 PM

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^

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I just have a set of utilities that I pick and choose across projects

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so things like clean scheduling, menus, yml files, itemstacks

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Some math for things like getting body parts and raycasting ig

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:44 PM

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Anyone knows how to serialize block data to base64?

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:45 PM

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base64 is just a way to represent binary data

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 2:45 PM

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echo basalt I just have a set of utilities that I pick and choose across projects

I was searching for something like that

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:45 PM

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Ik but when I try to serialize it, it throws an error

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 2:45 PM

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I want a clean code

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

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then maek it

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

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java.lang.RuntimeException: java.io.NotSerializableException

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

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echo basalt then maek it

huh?

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

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echo basalt then maek it

that's a really good point, thank you

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

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humble sleet java.lang.RuntimeException: java.io.NotSerializableException

BlockData needs to implement serializable

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you could make your own wrapper class that copies all properties

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or just gson it or something

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:48 PM

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I'm using a custom block object because I need to store additional data but could I make my own block data object that implements (or extend, always mix those two) block data then reference that class instead?

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Also how would I go about doing the same for block state

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 2:49 PM

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what's causing this error?

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:49 PM

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Like inventories, player heads, banners, spawners, etc...

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 2:49 PM

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and yes if i run it outside of runnable still problem

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 2:49 PM

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ArmorStand#remove() isn't a static method

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Your instance is called "stand"

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stand.remove();

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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🤦‍♂️ how am i that dumb

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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man should try reading his IDE's warnings

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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i cant believe myself

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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It would probably suggest making the method static, Illusion ;p

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 2:50 PM

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echo basalt man should try reading his IDE's warnings

it wasnt showing up

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intellij weird

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sometimes

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 2:51 PM

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if he forked the spigot project

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 2:51 PM

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humble sleet Anyone knows how to serialize block data to base64?

?

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 2:59 PM

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How can I insert a texture into a block with custommodeldata?

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Blocks do not support CustomModelData

green prism Oct 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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nice

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 3:05 PM

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green prism nice

I can explain some alternatives in a VC if you want?

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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take a look at rusts Optional<T> class

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im basically recreating the same thing in java

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Just don't overuse Optional, or you end up like Sponge and you piss off anybody using your API

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/vewixowoba.java

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:12 PM

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There's a time and place to use Optional

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Optional only nice for method chaining

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:12 PM

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imho, if you fully expect to do some terminal operation with the result, or if you want to do something else if it's not present, then use an optional

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("terminal operation" being some function you call at the end of another method)

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If you use Optional for everything, you're going to end up with either unreadable chained code or nesting hell

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:14 PM

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🥲

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fleet syntax highlighting be like:

zealous osprey Oct 13, 2022, 3:14 PM

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I was mainly concerned about error handling in api development, that's why I also created the Thread

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

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object.getSomething().ifPresent(something -> {
    something.getSomethingElse().ifPresent(somethingElse -> {
        somethingElse.getAnotherThing().ifPresent(anotherThing -> {
            anotherThing.foo();
        });
    });
});```

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I will cry if you do this

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Don't do this

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

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map is a thing

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

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That's a bare-bones example, presumably you'd be doing other things lol

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

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but i understand the point lol

zealous osprey Oct 13, 2022, 3:16 PM

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worldly ingot ```java object.getSomething().ifPresent(something -> { something.getSomethin...

Nope, it was just meant to be used as a nice form of exceptions. Instead of having to use a try-catch, you can rather just check the if the output is present

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 3:16 PM

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Yeah, you can use Optionals, just use them sparingly and where it makes the most sense

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If you end up writing code that looks like something above ^, you've used too many

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:26 PM

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my current code does things like this

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formatting goes brr here

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should probably be able to chain onSuccess().onFailure() but idk how to handle it in the class itself

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have a Consumer<T> and Consumer<Exception> probably

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 3:57 PM

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meh i dont really

hazy parrot Oct 13, 2022, 4:00 PM

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It does

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 4:02 PM

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yes

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just looks like ij with the new ui

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too much white and blue

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imagine not returning Collections.emptyList()

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 4:08 PM

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why is onSuccess a consumer?

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@tardy delta

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it should be a function

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since it shouldnt take any arguments

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 4:10 PM

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since it shouldnt return anything?

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 4:13 PM

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my bad

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i meant runnable

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or Callable if it might throw exceptiosn

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 4:22 PM

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Lol what the fuck

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6 gigs of memory jesus christ

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What cpu you got

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Uhm idk ryzen lol

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But is that goid

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Ahh ok so fleet is like vscode but it's a resource hog has no plugins and it's by jetbrains

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Hmmm yes ofcourse you do

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I'm that one weird mf who uses vscode

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Idk why I use vscode tbh every time I try to switch I'm back on vsc the next day

dire marsh Oct 13, 2022, 4:57 PM

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same thing happened to me lmao

brave trellis Oct 13, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Is there any reason why the [imgs] dont show up sometimes, they are showing within the edit description but not on the actual page when it appears? Its like its an on and off switch

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for spigot plugin descriptions

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 5:06 PM

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brave trellis Is there any reason why the [imgs] dont show up sometimes, they are showing with...

The image proxy is having issues

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It happens at times

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:08 PM

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How to use the blockpopuqltor function

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:10 PM

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less memory

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:10 PM

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How do I use the Blockpopulator function

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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Arrays are usually fixed-length and support null elements

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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still not worth it

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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Good for things like inventories

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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in most cases

paper lily Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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where in minecraft's code is a block's correlating tool defined? i.e. pumpkins mine faster with axes, leaves mine faster with shears

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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ArrayLists are a list implementation based on arrays, which resizes the list etc

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 5:11 PM

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yes

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public
naming is bad
why is a queue a map? use a Dequeue

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 5:12 PM

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👏 Multi 👏 map 👏

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They have different queue types is all, but yeah I'd use a Deque instead too

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fwiw, those queues should probably be separated into their own objects, but meh

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:12 PM

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Does anyone know how to use Blockpopulator -_-

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 5:13 PM

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let that enum hold a function to create that obj

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:13 PM

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paper lily where in minecraft's code is a block's correlating tool defined? i.e. pumpkins m...

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:13 PM

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raw prairie Does anyone know how to use Blockpopulator -_-

honestly, no. lemme google it rq

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:13 PM

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oop I cut it a bit early

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 5:14 PM

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I would really love to add a getDestroySpeed() method to Bukkit, but I'd rather types be interfaces first

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:14 PM

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echo basalt

There's an internal registry (found in the game files themselves) that contains all the block keys for diggable stuff

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 5:14 PM

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I don't want to route through UnsafeValues

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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worldly ingot I would really love to add a getDestroySpeed() method to Bukkit, but I'd rather ...

It matters on some conditions

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Like mining fatigue, aqua affinity n all

paper lily Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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ty i must dig thru the classes and see if mc has something similar, im doing this in 1.7.2

worldly ingot Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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Sure, but getting the base mining speed is useful

paper lily Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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i found itemstack getdestroyspeed but its weird

echo basalt Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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True

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:15 PM

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raw prairie Does anyone know how to use Blockpopulator -_-

you need to implement the abstract BlockPopulator class and then:

A BlockPopulator can be used in combination with a custom ChunkGenerator by returning it in the method ChunkGenerator.getDefaultPopulators(World) or by adding it manually to the worlds populator list returned by World.getPopulators().

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:18 PM

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opal juniper you need to implement the abstract `BlockPopulator` class and then: ``` A BlockP...

Thats where I have trouble unfortunately

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Do i create a class

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Or use worldinitevent

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 5:18 PM

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just have a method that adds on removes a game?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:18 PM

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You need to create a class that implements BlockPopulator and then, if you arent doing complete custom generation, add it with the init event

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World.getPopulators().add(WhateverCustomGenerator());

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 5:19 PM

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gimme code

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:21 PM

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opal juniper You need to create a class that implements `BlockPopulator` and then, if you are...

If I'm not doing complete custom gen

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Do i still add the plugin

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To bukkit.yml

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:22 PM

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no

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https://stackoverflow.com/a/15038243

Stack Overflow

Why do we need Deque data structures in the real world?

Can anyone give me an example of situation where a Deque data structure is needed?

Note - Please don't explain what a deque is?

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then you would need multiple deques, probably wrapped in a map

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 5:24 PM

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isnt a deque just an example of a queue?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:24 PM

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u can insert at bothe ends

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Yes.. kinda

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 5:24 PM

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thats what i thought, never used it actually

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:24 PM

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Use Deque<UUID>

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:25 PM

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opal juniper Use `Deque<UUID>`

I'm still pretty confused

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Where do I add the worldinitevent

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:25 PM

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raw prairie I'm still pretty confused

you just need a listener somewhere. It just adds to the list

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:25 PM

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opal juniper you just need a listener somewhere. It just adds to the list

So I can put it in start up logic?

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And then make the plugin laod before the world does?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:26 PM

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raw prairie So I can put it in start up logic?

https://docs.papermc.io/paper/dev/event-listeners
Read this. its for paper but it has the same content

raw prairie Oct 13, 2022, 5:26 PM

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opal juniper <https://docs.papermc.io/paper/dev/event-listeners> Read this. its for paper but...

My plugin doesn't work in paper for sum reason

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Completely breaks down

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:26 PM

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mhm looks good

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meh, player objects can go stale. Its better practice

bright cedar Oct 13, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Hi, does anyone know how I can create a new world with a roofted forest at the center each time I create a world ?

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 5:44 PM

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Hi, know I asked this before but is there a way to serialize block data and block state (detailed explanation would be appreciated)

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:47 PM

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what data do you need serialised

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the block state is extremely complex

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 5:47 PM

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Exactly

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I want to store a structure in a file (similar to schematics) but I want to inject my own information into the schematic. So far I'm making a file called name.struct which is a text file with base64 in it

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 5:51 PM

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opal juniper what data do you need serialised

All the information

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 5:53 PM

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yeah good luck then. Work out what data you need, work out a structure for serialization and then go from there. Anything more than just materials is hard

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 5:54 PM

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gl

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 5:54 PM

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That ain't an answer

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 5:54 PM

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Well, block data can be serialised into a string

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that is API exposed iirc

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block state, you are fucked

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you'll need to save it into a CompoundTag internally

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and then serialise that

humble sleet Oct 13, 2022, 5:55 PM

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Thats really helpful actually

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 5:55 PM

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my advice would be to use world edit run

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and then just store the extra data somewhere else

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 6:42 PM

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humble sleet Hi, know I asked this before but is there a way to serialize block data and bloc...

yes

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except it's not really serializing, you can serialize it to the world's data file tho

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take reference from my entity serializer library

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use structures

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if ur using 1.17.1+

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basically,

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 6:43 PM

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hello folks, can you tell me how it is possible to have such a good performance ? https://youtu.be/-E1Kx0Z11I0

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 6:43 PM

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my entity serializer library, makes a structure of a 1x1x1 block

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then saves it with a key

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and then kills the entity

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then whenever u spawn the entity u spawn the structure

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eitherway

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just use the same mechanic

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but with blocks instead of entities

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afaik state and such is saved with structures

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 6:45 PM

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can someone help me pls ?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 6:46 PM

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steep hearth hello folks, can you tell me how it is possible to have such a good performance ...

there is nothing in the world?

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its just flat terrain

grim ice Oct 13, 2022, 6:47 PM

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also jeez

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that shit is fast

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@opal juniper its exceptionally fast

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thats probably not normal

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 6:47 PM

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yes. but its also using one file per chunk

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the file size of that world is gonna be kinda astronomical

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 6:48 PM

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opal juniper yes. but its also using one file per chunk

No :/

bright cedar Oct 13, 2022, 6:49 PM

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Hi, does anyone know how I can create a new world with a roofted forest at the center each time I create a world ?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 6:49 PM

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little wharf No :/

yes?

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 6:49 PM

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I know the developer behind this project and no, he doesn't use one file per chunk

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 6:50 PM

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well im looking at one of his other videos and it says he does with the same code in the background

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-DsUmD4z0

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 6:50 PM

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at the beginning of the video you can check the tps is very low

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and after it is very fast

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one file per chunk vs one file for a group of chunks

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 6:52 PM

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opal juniper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-DsUmD4z0

Check the name of the video

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 6:55 PM

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repo they reference is here @steep hearth

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Im just reading the blog post. If you know so much about it feel free to enlighten us

lime crater Oct 13, 2022, 7:00 PM

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how would i get the name of a created item in 1.16.5?

because of me creating the itemstack the getItemMeta is null,
so tried the itemfactory to get the meta of the material, but this also gave all null values

as it's a modded item i have, the gettype.name does start with mod_xxx , trying to cut it off wouldn't take care of special characters ( like é ) as i want ofcourse

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Thing is as well, you can load a chunk as fast as you want but the generation will still be slow

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:05 PM

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opal juniper Thing is as well, you can load a chunk as fast as you want but the generation wi...

the generation of the chunk is client side

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and its not really slow even if he has a potato pc

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:11 PM

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cuz it is

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:11 PM

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the generation of the chunk is client side

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:11 PM

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ew no

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:11 PM

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eternal night > the generation of the chunk is client side <:kekw:733496558590492693>

someone is here to help. thank god

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:11 PM

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I mean, not much to say.

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random private project that might be doing fuck what

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:12 PM

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I was talking about the rendering of the chunck

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:12 PM

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the rending isn't the issue, the generation of the terrain is.

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but again

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private projects are pretty useless

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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what did we say about storing player objects

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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eternal night private projects are pretty useless

there is no issue with this system it is faster than spigot that's it

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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you can claim a lot of things

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if you don't provide code for people to replicate

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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eternal night private projects are pretty useless

For the moment yes but in the future no

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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dm me the repo and then we talk

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:13 PM

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those claims are useless

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does the server do anything else ?

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are the chunks ticking ?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:14 PM

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like all the demos are on custom cheap chunks

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:14 PM

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it will do as much as spigot is doing

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:14 PM

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eternal night does the server do anything else ?

Yes for sure

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You know "a private project" or no ?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:14 PM

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I mean, if that system is written into spigot then the world choice is weird

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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little wharf You know "a private project" or no ?

we know what you mean

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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opal juniper dm me the repo and then we talk

PRIVATE PROJECT

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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u know you can make it not private

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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if your project is private, its useless to ask "how to get that performance"

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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thats what i meant

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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its a magical video no one can verify

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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copilot got some stuff in mind

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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nor checkout what improvements were made

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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its a video to show improvements the message asking how to get that performance is a joke

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:16 PM

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oh

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:16 PM

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opal juniper u know you can make it not private

Yes but it's not the objectives for this project

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:16 PM

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that is a rather boring joke then

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Well, GG enjoy your system then xD

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and punching really fast in 1.8

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diamond_sword

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:16 PM

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oh wait was it 1.8

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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and ?

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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For the moment yes

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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awww thats a shame

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well 1.8 is already 20x faster than anything modern

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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spigot 1.8 is not that fast

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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Okay so launch spigot and make this test please

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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what is the point of this 😂

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:18 PM

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it seems like they are trying to flex

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:18 PM

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yea

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pretty weird flex for a 1.8 private fork

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:18 PM

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but i literally am only a little interested in how it was implemented and they wont show me

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:19 PM

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and let's talk about libs to manipulate packets with spigot, just because no one got the idea to implement a system to manipulate packets because they are lazy to create wrappers for every version

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:19 PM

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opal juniper but i literally am only a little interested in how it was implemented and they w...

Because it's not the objective for today

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:19 PM

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Hammer Conversation adjourned Hammer

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:20 PM

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fml my generator settings were trashed when copying my worlds 😭

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opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:20 PM

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heheh

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 7:20 PM

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I see nothing wrong. Normal Minecraft 🙂

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:21 PM

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Lynx is at the far lands!!!!!

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:21 PM

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🙏 finally

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beyond that

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kekw

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:22 PM

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you can't implement it on spigot/paper

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that's

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https://tenor.com/view/facts-dwight-facts-the-office-dwight-gif-25782901

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:22 PM

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implement what 😂

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iTs a PrIvAt pRoJEcT

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:22 PM

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fax

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:23 PM

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copilot started writing reflections for me now

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:24 PM

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its not a server jar to make a server with 5 slots

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:24 PM

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oh god

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copilot is improving

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:24 PM

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about dam time!

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:24 PM

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the thing is smart lol

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dunno if that method exists but anyways

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:25 PM

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spigot team should use copilot

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:25 PM

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i like the thing intellij does where you can control click to the method / field you are reflecting

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:25 PM

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it wrote this stuff for me to map a pojo to a table by using reflections

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var lmao

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:26 PM

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:'(

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:26 PM

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spigot should go private, upload a random video of them flying over terrain as basic as the music chosen and then join other discords asking if they can implement that

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:26 PM

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~~so like paper~~

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peepoHeHee

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:27 PM

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eternal night spigot should go private, upload a random video of them flying over terrain as b...

and how do you live if every project just go open source ?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:28 PM

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open source is great?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:28 PM

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smh I always knew redhat is a dead company 😭

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this open source stuff just

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you cannot make money off it

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:28 PM

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omg true!!!

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:28 PM

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hmm

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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well its not a spigot fork, ofc the aim is to make something better and sell it

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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dunno if thats valid java lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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Yea if you wanna add yourself to the "selling 1.8 spigot forks" list

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then gl

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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eternal night you cannot make money off it

mfw paper be like: we have too much money so we are giving it away to contributors

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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also if isn't based on spigot, you are pretty fucked anyway

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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eternal night Yea if you wanna add yourself to the "selling 1.8 spigot forks" list

Its not a fork but its okay

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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you are going to implement the entire bukkit API into a fresh project ? 👀

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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what the

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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eternal night you are going to implement the entire bukkit API into a fresh project ? 👀

#1014622546852847646

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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oh GOD

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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yeah lmao

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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eternal night you are going to implement the entire bukkit API into a fresh project ? 👀

No ?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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how will your server run plugins

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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eternal night how will your server run plugins

spigot plugins ?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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No ?

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so you are implementing the spigot API ?

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or are you actually a fork

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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spigot plugins will be supported on the project ofc

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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not a fork lmao

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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If you are supporting Spigot plugins I'm 99.9% certain you are a fork

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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^

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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eternal oxide If you are supporting Spigot plugins I'm 99.9% certain you are a fork

No

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:33 PM

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its not a fork

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:33 PM

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aims to replace the entire Spigot that you all know, with a totally asynchronous and cross-language alternative.

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:33 PM

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kekw

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its literally printing spigot config values

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lolol

eternal oxide Oct 13, 2022, 7:33 PM

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So you are not using ANY Spigot code in your project which is going to support Spigot plugins?

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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eternal night its literally printing spigot config values

Its not the project haha

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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Well, I'll look forward to your project 🙂

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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eternal night

https://tenor.com/view/squeezie-le-rapport-gif-18074327

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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glad you are using spigot to showcase your project

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the project must be basically ready 🙏

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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steep hearth https://tenor.com/view/squeezie-le-rapport-gif-18074327

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

Tenor

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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eternal night glad you are using spigot to showcase your project

bruh

tranquil viper Oct 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Where can I learn about obfuscation?

little wharf Oct 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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eternal night glad you are using spigot to showcase your project

Do you have a brain ? Its not the project

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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but nah, tbh enough hate. If you are working on a cool new project that is not a fork of spigot but supports spigot plugins and has a lot of performance improvements

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then I'll look forward to it 🙂

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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tranquil viper Where can I learn about obfuscation?

What do you want to learn? How to obfuscate? What it is?

tranquil viper Oct 13, 2022, 7:36 PM

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chrome beacon What do you want to learn? How to obfuscate? What it is?

How to incorporate it into my project and how it just works in general.

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:36 PM

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eternal night but nah, tbh enough hate. If you are working on a cool new project that is not a...

its okay we don't want to provide hate 🙂

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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it is the future

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smh

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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why ?

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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NM_Shut

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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you did promote the github x)

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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this is a spigot discord ?

quiet iron Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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I'm not contributors

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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eternal night this is a spigot discord ?

^^

quiet iron Oct 13, 2022, 7:37 PM

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I'm a graphics design

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:38 PM

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I mean this just looks like you are advertising a competitor of spigot that is apparently going to be sold ?

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:38 PM

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who's talks about competitors ?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:38 PM

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I'd be interested to hear what the mods have to say to that 🤔

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your project aims to replace spigot does it not

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:39 PM

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nop

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:39 PM

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i-

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okay this is too stupid, gl with the project, whatever fork not fork, api not api, spigot replacement but not replacement but super fast and private it is

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Lets keep it to spigot only

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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eternal night okay this is too stupid, gl with the project, whatever fork not fork, api not ap...

not private for long time

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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thank you copilot

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me correcting its mistakes

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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i hate normalising databases

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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pojo mapper go brr

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especially with reflections

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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eternal night okay this is too stupid, gl with the project, whatever fork not fork, api not ap...

its more for servers that wants best performance without using weird systems that synchronize the same world across multiple spigot servers

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:41 PM

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i did it with suppliers before and that was way easier

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:41 PM

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paper and spigot are still based on that yk

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:41 PM

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wha the heck

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:42 PM

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steep hearth its more for servers that wants best performance without using weird systems tha...

Drop it. This server's for spigot only

odd sleet Oct 13, 2022, 7:42 PM

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bruh

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:43 PM

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Advertising competitors is not allowed 🙂

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:43 PM

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ah looks like it can only handle one throws declaration

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:43 PM

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side note, keep it english only

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:44 PM

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wondering how to do that with a lambda

steep hearth Oct 13, 2022, 7:44 PM

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tardy delta ah looks like it can only handle one throws declaration

bifunction exists in java

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:45 PM

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bruh

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i seem to understand

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wrong generic exception type

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yessir

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hmm legacy go brr

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sorry for flooding the chat tho

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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eternal night I'd be interested to hear what the mods have to say to that 🤔

Not happy 👀

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Yea me neither 😅

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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atleast were able to generate this based on a class' annotations

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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even I don't advertise my project here lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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just in paper general run pepe_hand_heart

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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Nah, not the Anti-Malware

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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hehe

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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I mean thank god that existed

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if more people asked how to run the one line grep command

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I would have died

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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The one line's useless lmao

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There's like 13 variants

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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yee

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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also, if you're in the support server Lynx, you can see what project I was actually talking about in announcements

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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I am not 😭

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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You can find a link on literally any of my resources then :p

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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:>

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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the ask questions / get support one iirc

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:54 PM

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Yea I see it

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nice idea for sure 🙏

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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Yee

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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always been a fan of "do one thing and do it well" forks

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well public ones that is

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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I have other plans, but I'm focusing on that part first and getting that as best as it can be before general things

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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ye 🙏 a nice integrated anti maleware thing sounds cool

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I wonder how far one can go with that

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Farther than I am currently lol

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:56 PM

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i mean if you have CI optic, there would be no reason to not use it over paper

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on paper release -> patch urs

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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CI?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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continuous integration

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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jenkins / gh actions type stuff

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:57 PM

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I wonder if you could also ship all of that in paperclip

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instead of paper 🤔

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Help me set it up after I'm doing w/ Verdun and we can make that a reality lol
Pretty sure the repo will already auto-sync

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iirc they have functionality for that

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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yeah... i mean it isnt the best idea to auto pull

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noah might change some patches by hand again

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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eyes_hmm

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damn, my man isn't even here and you trash him 😭

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Well, regardless it would still be useful lol

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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kek

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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and no, the fork landscape is good

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I can always figure out something better

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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giant projects become slow

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Would be even better if I can get host support 👀

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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I do wonder tho, what was your reasoning to shade it into paper instead of like, just running it in paperclip ?

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e.g. before server start

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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eternal night I do wonder tho, what was your reasoning to shade it into paper instead of like,...

ud have to make some changes to paperclip tho no?

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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eternal night I do wonder tho, what was your reasoning to shade it into paper instead of like,...

Less hassle lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Hmm

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maybe ?

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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I can always modify paperclip or whatever to use my repo anyways lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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I guess if you want to change server impl and API down yea

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again, things slow down too much

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if you have 50 people working on a single thing

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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^ especially given the main focus is Anti-Malware related

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Red-tape massively gets in the way

opal juniper Oct 13, 2022, 8:02 PM

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if every single person used one fork, imagine the amount of testing needed for each release

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there are huge stakes

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:02 PM

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also, fuck paper. The less I need to use of theirs, the better

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:02 PM

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I mean ehh- fixing later is not really a nice way to do things tbh

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especially with rolling releases like spigot and paper do

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exactly why you keep it small

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and think a lot about changes

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if 50 people work on paper

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and someone just shoves in new API that they want

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM

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eternal night especially with rolling releases like spigot and paper do

Yea, I'd have some CI or something to auto-pull/verify

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:03 PM

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and then everything breaks down the line because the API is garbage

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now you are fucked because you have dead API

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Yes and now you slowly start to notice how this is not a business

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but open source software

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that no one gets paid for

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:04 PM

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eternal night I mean ehh- *fixing* later is not really a nice way to do things tbh

This is also why my project's not public yet, I want it as perfect as possible on first release lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:04 PM

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I mean, imo you can have it open early just don't publish jars

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dunno

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but probably ?

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they have a lot of infra structure to maintain

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I presume md takes a cut ?

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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I'm doing a lot of changes, including a new DB. not really an option lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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but like

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dunno

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Yea but like, again, open source software does not really work in motivated timelines imho

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Easiest to get it right on first release and go from there, given the amount of sweeping changes I'm doing in terms of the merge

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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if it isn't backed by a company

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I mean, managing a giant group of contributors all with different goals in an OSS project that does not pay enough to survive off

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just sounds like pain to happen

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especially in rolling releases

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when so many people depend on your work

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that would kill it

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instanly

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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^

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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^

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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you can do what pufferfish does

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what

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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What

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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paper is based on spigot

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if spigot requires you to pay to run it

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it has to be closed source

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else you just go ahead and compile it

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and use it anyway

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Well yea, for support

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which, I guess spigot could do that ?

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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😳

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U sure bout that

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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charge everyone in this discord neutral_gun

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where is my money

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gimme

quaint mantle Oct 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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good I saw this

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ima leave rn

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bye

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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kekw

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but yea, I think things would work fine if we just shoot more stuff back upstream

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after it lived long enough in downstream

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but spigot is in a weird place there with their stash and CLA

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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eternal night but yea, I think things would work fine if we just shoot more stuff back upstrea...

won't happen lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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and then there is also just patches that don't have a place in upstream. E.g. optics malware shit pepe_hand_heart

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or like purpurs gameplay changes

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both of them are cool for certain users

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Or like papers everything

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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but out of papers scope

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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eternal night and then there is also just patches that don't have a place in upstream. E.g. op...

Yea, doesn't really belong in paper itself either tbh

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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I mean, its fine no ?

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they have their valid place in the community

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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If it weren't true no one would use it ^

chrome beacon Oct 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Purpur is fine

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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And in my case, it would literally be drag & drop lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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kekw

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but yea, imo they all have their place

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well not all

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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who needs base paper lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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kekw

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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😄

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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I wonder where the world would be with spigot as a base

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we would still be at bash scripts

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lol

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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In my case? The project would be dead

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 8:13 PM

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go spigot

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wait

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is paper better?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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this is the spigot discord 😅

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idk what answer you are expecting

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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eternal night we would still be at bash scripts

Doesn't paper still use bash and shell scripts though lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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o.O

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our entire tooling is gradle based neutral_gun

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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Fuck gradle

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:14 PM

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well

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we have bash scripts to update upstream

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but most of the tooling is a gradle plugin (paperweight 🙏)

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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So much stuff about paper that I don't like, but it's the most popular so i need to fork it 😐

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:16 PM

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I mean, always depends if we are talking API wise

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or impl wise

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I see how a lot of people dislike @Deprecated

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or at least a few loud people

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Regardless, if I forked spigot instead the project would be dead lmao

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:16 PM

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probably

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I mean, leafs chunk rewrite is pretty damn sexy

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Well yes, bash has its place kekw

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but doing everything needed to setup the spigot or paper workspace

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in bash

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is pretty painful

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big W

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Honestly Lynx the hard part's just gonna be getting server hosts to adopt it lmao

vocal cloud Oct 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Imagine not using a server manager and instead using a bash script

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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vagrant stratus Honestly Lynx the hard part's just gonna be getting server hosts to adopt it lma...

yea probably. I wonder if adoption would be better through a fork or a third party tool/loader

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:19 PM

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eternal night yea probably. I wonder if adoption would be better through a fork or a third par...

Most hosts, e.g. server.pro, have a way to support that stuff already

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I know certain hosts recommend my AV, so it's likely I can get them to adopt and recommend that as well lol

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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hey quick questions guys what was the syntax to sending a message to player chat again?

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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player.sendMessage()

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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tysm

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:21 PM

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|| player.sendMessage(Component.text("Message")); run ||

fading spindle Oct 13, 2022, 8:22 PM

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ok thx

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:22 PM

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no that isn't it xD

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thats why its in a spoiler

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just "this is a message" or "§6This is gold"

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:23 PM

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but yea, it shouldn't be too difficult. Just gonna be a pain to write a bunch of emails lol

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:23 PM

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who doesn't

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yea the custom nbt thing in the recipe book is pretty meh

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:24 PM

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Regardless I highly doubt there'll be mass adoption quickly lol

mental sorrel Oct 13, 2022, 8:25 PM

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hey guys. any method of grabbing the owner (entity) of an inventory from a InventoryClickEvent ?

west quail Oct 13, 2022, 8:26 PM

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event.getWhoClicked() ?

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or smth like that

mental sorrel Oct 13, 2022, 8:26 PM

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whoclick is the player,

west quail Oct 13, 2022, 8:26 PM

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yeye

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wait

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no clue, sr

kind hatch Oct 13, 2022, 8:30 PM

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mental sorrel hey guys. any method of grabbing the owner (entity) of an inventory from a Inven...

Inventory#getHolder() may be what you are looking for. I don't use it myself, but you may need to cast to what you are looking for.

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 8:32 PM

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For plugin help please use #help-server

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Honestly @eternal night like the only thing I really need to do is the new DB, the rest (excluding the XF site) is pretty much finished for a first release

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 8:32 PM

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oh

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I thought you need help

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Also repesct please

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Its the 2nd time i saw it to you in 1d

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okay im not going to answer because its simple

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🤣

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I mean i dont lost my time with this type of childs

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:35 PM

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This has been a rather confusing conversation

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 8:36 PM

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eternal night This has been a rather confusing conversation

Yes bruh he is so unrespecful

eternal night Oct 13, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Same kekw

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:37 PM

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😞

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Hey stop it law is here

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:38 PM

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vagrant stratus Honestly <@202850073812402177> like the only thing I *really* need to do is the ...

Only reason the DB is taking so long is because it'll be more through, follow stricter naming conventions, and be proper

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oh and it's boring as fuck

mental sorrel Oct 13, 2022, 8:42 PM

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kind hatch Inventory#getHolder() may be what you are looking for. I don't use it myself, bu...

After casting around to entity, it works like a charm :) thnx

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Player giocatore = (Player) poliziotto.get(player.getName());

I tried to take the player via hashmap, but it marks it in red, how can I solve?

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:43 PM

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It should have a message telling you why it's red

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:43 PM

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vagrant stratus It should have a message telling you why it's red

Inconvertible types; cannot cast 'java.lang.String' to 'org.bukkit.entity.Player

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:44 PM

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What's your HashMap storing?

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:45 PM

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Ah, right, it contains strings

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:45 PM

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And it returns what exactly?

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:45 PM

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string

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:46 PM

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That's why you're having issues.
A String cannot be a Player

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:46 PM

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ok

vagrant stratus Oct 13, 2022, 8:46 PM

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What are you trying to do exactly?

sterile token Oct 13, 2022, 8:46 PM

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What is the best way for saving/loading a map from/to config?

river oracle Oct 13, 2022, 8:47 PM

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sterile token What is the best way for saving/loading a map from/to config?

iirc you can just do ConfigurationSection#getMap

tardy delta Oct 13, 2022, 8:47 PM

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cant?

sinful rapids Oct 13, 2022, 8:48 PM

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vagrant stratus What are you trying to do exactly?

Confirmation stuff, however I fixed it, thanks