i guess spigot is not a mod
#help-development
quiet ice
But you also need to make sure to not do excessive stuff
eternal night
You are certainly not allowed to Republish the entire client jar in most places
Even if you have modified it
quiet ice
The main reason spigot does not publish jars is because of a licensing error (if you can call it that - they absolutely knew what they were doing)
eternal night
Grey area is the best area
quiet ice
that is called a rewrite
quiet ice
They certainly don't care all too much, but you still don't want to risk it
vocal cloud
Playing on a companies apathy is a dangerous game
eternal night
But like
quiet ice
You don't want to get your mod taken down because of some error you did long time ago
frail gale
someone knows why I have access denied when I try to write into the AppData startup folder?
Also this is not for Spigot plugin
quiet ice
I mean get Bukkit shit is still up
Speaking of those sites, I recently saw someone download paper from such a site.
quiet ice
someone knows why I have access denied when I try to write into the AppData star...
write with what and write to what exactly?
%appdata%?
vocal cloud
Might need to run as admin to access it
quiet ice
Yes, but https://papermc.io is the proper way to download paper
eternal night
Wtf XD
frail gale
write with what and write to what exactly?
I'm trying to write an InputStream to %appdata%/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs/Startup
quiet ice
Again, PAPER
quiet ice
Paper uses paperclip
quiet ice
And the worst thing is that it was an outdated jar
vocal cloud
I too enjoy my server mining crypto
torn shuttle
I hate this
untold jewel
Do you guys think it would be best with an Arena variation for duels?
west scarab
so in skript i do %{variable} ? 50% what'd the code for that be in java?
tardy delta
so in skript i do ``%{variable} ? 50%`` what'd the code for that be in java?
whats that even supposed to do
west scarab
in skript it auto checks if the variable ISN"T set, then if it isn't. It'll take the value i put after the ?
west scarab
whats that even supposed to do
in java it's the exact same thing for booleans, but how would i do it in a double or string or int?
chrome beacon
You check if it's null
west scarab
yea ik, but there has to be a faster way.
chrome beacon
?learnjava Highly recommended before starting with Spigot
undone axleBOT
Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:
- https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
- https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
- https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
- https://programmingbydoing.com/
- https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html
The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.
west scarab
?learnjava Highly recommended before starting with Spigot
i know java. i was just asking a question lol
hazy parrot
Why is checking for null "slow"?
eternal night
Wat
hazy parrot
yea ik, but there has to be a faster way.
.
tardy delta
primitives cannot be null lol
torn shuttle
primitives cannot be null lol
not with that attitude
tardy delta
ah he was talking about vars in general
hazy parrot
I mean.. Noone is talking about primitives
chrome beacon
Well they did ask about double and int
torn shuttle
oh no olivo pressed x
worldly ingot
tardy delta
i see
molten hearth
Why is checking for null "slow"?
every programmer who's ever lived is crying rn
does anyone know which packet is used for setting the amount of hearts a player has
worldly ingot
Probably entity metadata
afaik it's an attribute thing
Yeah, there's a separate packet for updating attributes
If I were to guess the naming, PacketPlayOutUpdateAttributes or ClientboundUpdateAttributesPacket
stoic osprey
Trying to save and load json using this:
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/json-configuration-files.212794/
but theres an issue with line
map = gson.fromJson(new FileReader(configFile), new HashMap<String, Object>().getClass());
Intellij says there is a Unchecked assignment: '? extends java.util.HashMap' to 'java.util.Map<java.lang.String,java.lang.Object>' on part gson.fromJson
it also says Instantiating object to get Class object on part new HashMap<String, Object>().getClass(). Anyone got any idea what these warnings mean?
river oracle
Unchecked means you have no clue what types your casting too
You are likely fine ignoring it in this case
sharp heart
do someone know how to make a sapling grow into a tree ?
fluid river
?learnenglish
river oracle
Bro that's just mean
fluid river
basically just do @SuppressWarnings("all") and forget about warnings
stoic osprey
oki thanks
river oracle
If I got a dollar for everytime I have written @SuppressWarnings("unchecked") I'd be very very poor
fluid river
If I got a dollar for everytime I have written @SuppressWarnings("unchecked") I'...
true tho
molten hearth
right so now I have another issue that is more of a maths skill issue, I have this code ```java
class Main {
static int playerMaxHealth = 2000;
static int playerCurrentHealth = 1000;
static float vanillaHealth = 0;
public static void main(String[] args) {
int currentLoopPosition = playerCurrentHealth;
while(currentLoopPosition >= (playerMaxHealth/20)) {
vanillaHealth++;
currentLoopPosition -= (playerMaxHealth/20);
}
System.out.println(vanillaHealth);
}
}``` to have a custom health system, is there a more efficient way of doing what I'm doing right now?
fluid river
i guess
fluid river
do someone know how to make a sapling grow into a tree ?
well basically get the sappling and do setStage(getMaximumStage())
molten hearth
I'm pretty sure there is I just dont know maths đź’€
sharp heart
well basically get the sappling and do setStage(getMaximumStage())
I did, and nothing after
fluid river
I did, and nothing after
google then
molten hearth
Basically I just need to display it in the healthbar if the player has 1000/2000 health in my system so for that im just gonna convert it to roughly the vanilla amount that's equivalent but I have the feeling a loop is not the best way of doing it
river oracle
Gogl3w I ber you I find something gimme a minute
molten hearth
(and no I cant divide it by 100 lmao)
fluid river
Basically I just need to display it in the healthbar if the player has 1000/2000...
why not just vanilla health = health / multiplier
fluid river
(and no I cant divide it by 100 lmao)
why
river oracle
fluid river
just get the multiplier variable lol
vanillaHealth = currentHealth / (maxHealth / 20);
smth like this
how much hearts player has btw
10?
molten hearth
oh yes that works
I think its 10 hearts but since there's half-hearts I'm using 20
fluid river
vanillaHealth = currentHealth / (maxHealth / 20);
then just this
each 100 would be half heart
molten hearth
yeah that worked lmao
I used such a weird solution
the things I do to not use maths 🙏
tyvm
fluid river
❤️
river oracle
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torn shuttle
always do meth math whenever you can kids
fluid river
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river oracle
always do ~~meth~~ math whenever you can kids
I love meth math
remote swallow
~~ around stuff
river oracle
~x2
remote swallow
~~meth~~ math
grizzled ginkgo
@spring vine you scammed me you took my email
remote swallow
Come on discord
grizzled ginkgo
θ
river oracle
<@981086826162962432> you scammed me you took my email
No one cares about your personal beef lmao if you have an issue contact support
fluid river
0
river oracle
?support
undone axleBOT
grizzled ginkgo
No one cares about your personal beef lmao if you have an issue contact support
Hm
I just wanna talk
fluid river
remote swallow
Would you like or not like this becoming a forum channel
tardy delta
tf is a forum channel
harsh totem
wdym?
vast raven
I forgor how to inject a class, like I wanna inject the zombie class to change the stats
twilit roost
Im developing custom command framework
But I need custom TabCompleter logic
any ideas how to remake the Bukkit one?
crimson terrace
Well first you would need a reason to do that, then you would need an idea of how it should look
twilit roost
I have system of main command and subcommands
But some subcommands can be registered as separate commands
But when I tried modifying args I was passing to those subcommands, it didn't work at all
So I thought of custom TabCompletor which would detect if its completing for SubCommand or Separate command and modify those args using that information
so far thought of this
hazy parrot
tabcompletor is compliting any array you pass to it
you are returning empty list for some reason
twilit roost
well I tried shortening it by 1
aka removing args[0] but it just put instead of removing the argument
Imma send a snippet
hazy parrot
also, you want to use StringUtils class
to check what array to return
returning empty list will not tab complete anything
tardy delta
those fields are static if you didnt know
twilit roost
soo?
lost matrix
but verbose
af
lost matrix
And i feel like it can get very cluttered if you use too many anonymous functions
twilit roost
does Brigadier use nms?
I haven't ever used it so idk where to find it and use it
oh this one ig
https://github.com/Mojang/brigadier
brigadier allows you to do this stuff?
ivory sleet
yes
brig reads the cmd stucture and creates suggestions/completions from it (which nms fetches)
torn shuttle
hahahaha funiiiii I fucked up big time
I just spent several hours turning a system into a maplist only to realize that to make it translatable I need to make it keyed
fluid river
rip bozo
torn shuttle
this one really sucks
tardy delta
reflections
untold jewel
Wanting to make a ReportGUI system. Is it a good idea to just make IDs? So example:
ID:
Repoter: name
Reported: name
Reason: reason
Also I'm curious is to whether or not add online/offline status. How would I do that if? Just make a something that checks and updates every tick or
lost matrix
Updating something every tick is a very extreme approach to anything.
You always want to use events for that. Like the PlayerJoinEvent and the PlayerQuitEvent to determine if a player is online or not.
And what do you mean by "Is it a good idea to just make IDs?"
For what purpose? What is your reasoning? We need more context.
untold jewel
if you are getting this from a config and you dont want to store it under the players UUID since it can get confusing as to whos UUID that is I thought well maybe I can just make a random ID generator instead
lost matrix
Because a random ID is less confusing than a players UUID?
untold jewel
No, just so every report has an ID
lost matrix
This makes more sense. "Report" can be a data class which also implements ConfigurationSerializable.
This way you could have a Map<UUID, List<Report>> in a manager class to keep track of all reports
corresponding to a certain player.
untold jewel
That was a good idea, thanks! Will definitely look into that
Also one more thing, I have been trying to fork a project from GitHub because I like the API very much but there is this annoy bit where it automatically places an item inside the GUI. I have tried removing the item by setting the slot to air etc etc.
But it doesnt work
(Never done forking before)
lost matrix
Also one more thing, I have been trying to fork a project from GitHub because I ...
Well then understand the code and change it to your liking. Then it wont place anything in that slot.
untold jewel
Yeah but how do I replace the repo? Or would I just compile the jar and use that instead
Also, as I look more into the API I cannot seem to find the part with that specific item. It's really weird
lost matrix
fork it -> change it -> compile it
untold jewel
Also, as I look more into the API I cannot seem to find the part with that speci...
.
solid cargo
im trying to get the smallest divider and it returns bad values all the time, for example the -85918111 in the terminal output divided by 3 (the supposed smallest divisor ) equals -28,639,370.33333333333333333
you can ignore the bottom im just in a rush
noble forge
lost matrix
im trying to get the smallest divider and it returns bad values all the time, fo...
a b c d e
Very descriptive... which ones are the divisors?
Do you want to find the smallest common divisor of each number?
noble forge
by smallest divisor youre probably referring to the smallest prime divisor
since the smallest divisor for any integer is 1
solid cargo
a b c d e
Very descriptive... which ones are the divisors?
Do you want to find t...
common divisor
solid cargo
since the smallest divisor for any integer is 1
i specially defined div as 2
solid cargo
a b c d e
Very descriptive... which ones are the divisors?
Do you want to find t...
divisors are the a b c d e
wait
sorry
divisor is div
i messed up
its late
tardy delta
only 8pm
noble forge
so you want to get the smallest prime divisor between two numbers?
solid cargo
between 5 numbers but yes
noble forge
there is no guaranteed smallest prime divisor for an arbitrary 5 numbers
solid cargo
well thats what i need to do. thats the task
Create code that finds the least and greatest common divisor of 5 random numbers (can also be entered into variables by hand).
create random numbers and output them;
while/do-while loop;
check if divides;
we increase/decrease the number to be checked or divided by.
i google translated it so please dont hurt me if something is translated wrongly
untold jewel
What language
solid cargo
latvian
noble forge
if you scale the problem down to two numbers, if you grab 2 prime numbers the least common divisor is 1, but your minimum is 2
noble forge
```
Create code that finds the least and greatest common divisor of 5 random num...
are you sure its least common divisor and not least common multiple?
torn shuttle
oh my god java please
I can only do Map.of 10 times
what is this jank
also @echo basalt rate my lines
lost matrix
This line being like "Am i a joke to you?"
torn shuttle
This line being like "Am i a joke to you?"
that's called the loser line, if you notice it you're a loser
sorry, it's terminal
glossy venture
I can only do Map.of 10 times
bruh its it not a varargs
glossy venture
public static <K, V> HashMap<K, V> mapOf(Object... vals) {
HashMap<K, V> map = new HashMap<>();
K key;
for (Object v : vals) {
if (key == null) {
key = (K) v;
} else {
map.put(key, (V) v);
key = null;
}
}
return map;
}
you can do it manually
using this
torn shuttle
go get hired by oracle and then fix this
lost matrix
```java
public static <K, V> HashMap<K, V> mapOf(Object... vals) {
HashMap<K, ...
Type safety goes bye bye
opal juniper
bruh its it not a varargs
well its K, V, K, V, K, V
glossy venture
yeah i get that
but just do runtime type checks
or smth
or dont at all
and wait for some ClassCastException
lost matrix
I would prefer a builder approach at this point. Let me do a quick mock uo
glossy venture
imo all collections should have a builder pattern
ivory sleet
I would prefer a builder approach at this point. Let me do a quick mock uo
or kotlin 🥲
glossy venture
imagine
new HashMap<>()
.put("a", a)
.put("b", b)
.put("c", c);
way to ruin it conclure
ivory sleet
shi mbmb
opal juniper
imagine
```java
new HashMap<>()
.put("a", a)
.put("b", b)
.put("c", c);
`...
new HashMap<>() {{
put("key", v);
}}
opal juniper
yep lul
glossy venture
thats what were talking abt
opal juniper
tardy delta
mmh
tardy delta
builder then
glossy venture
so they should use a varargs or builder pattern
tardy delta
oh
echo basalt
also <@262706156944883712> rate my lines
Lemme buy an ultrawide monitor first this is unreadable
glossy venture
you have Map::ofEntries
pretty sure you can just create an entry
new Map.Entry<>(k, v) wont work right
ivory sleet
ye
torn shuttle
?paste
undone axleBOT
glossy venture
its an interface
tender shard
I hate that this doesnt work for anon classes
torn shuttle
https://paste.md-5.net/evitemegey.coffeescript there, an elegant solution
lost matrix
public abstract class MapBuilder<K, V, M extends Map<K, V>> {
public static <K, V> MapBuilder<K, V, HashMap<K, V>> hashed() {
return new HashMapBuilder<>();
}
private final M map = construct();
protected abstract M construct();
public MapBuilder<K, V, M> append(K key, V value) {
map.put(key, value);
return this;
}
public M build() {
return map;
}
}
public class HashMapBuilder<K, V> extends MapBuilder<K, V, HashMap<K, V>> {
@Override
protected HashMap<K, V> construct() {
return new HashMap<>();
}
}
you have Map::entry
torn shuttle
the elegant part of this is that it can be done in seconds using middle click
glossy venture
https://paste.md-5.net/evitemegey.coffeescript there, an elegant solution
yeah or implement into the collection itself
when its mutable
just replace the put method to return Map<K, V>
tardy delta
whenever 7smile7 enters this chat, some fancy things happen
glossy venture
it would be epic if the compiler just had some syntax sugar to do that automatically
so you dont have to return anything
it just acts like it does
lost matrix
HashMap<String, Integer> map = MapBuilder.<String, Integer>hashed().append("One", 1).append("Two", 2).build();
owo
glossy venture
yes
tardy delta
you said yes before
torn shuttle
super.customObjectives.put("Objective13", Map.of("objectiveType", "DIALOG", "filename", "unbinder.yml", "npcName", "Ulfric:", "location", "under the main building", "dialog", List.of("&8[&aUlfric&8]&f If you bring me a very special and rare item, I can unbind your Elite items.", "You don't yet look prepared to take this challenge on, but you can make killing the Binder of Worlds your ultimate goal, if you dare.")));
finally some good fucking code
glossy venture
you said yes before
to the builder pattern
tender shard
I hate that this doesnt work for anon classes
but this ofc works >.<
glossy venture
not to the "owo" - quoted from FourteenBrush
lost matrix
but this ofc works >.<
XD
tender shard
why is there no way to reference the class of an anonymous class from within itself
torn shuttle
it's very anonymous
tender shard
yeah well obviously now it's not anymore
torn shuttle
sometimes I forget who I am when I turn on my vpn
lost matrix
why is there no way to reference the class of an anonymous class from within its...
Its just "this", no?
tender shard
Its just "this", no?
I have to declare a type for this
lost matrix
Oh you mean the class
lost matrix
Of an anonymous class
tender shard
yeah but I wonder, why do I even have to declare a type for a receiver parameter?
if you name the parameter "this", it HAS to be receiver parameter so it MUST refer to the same class
otherwise it wouldnt compile anyway
so javac knows what class I'm talking about even without name
lost matrix
Wait now i see the "this" param
opal juniper
but this ofc works >.<
looks like python
torn shuttle
ayy lmao I nuked it
tender shard
this is what I mean
there should be a "placeholder" or keyword to refer to the anon class in this case
but there is none
ivory sleet
why do you need the receiver param in the first place if I may ask
tender shard
why do you need the receiver param in the first place if I may ask
In this case, I ofc don't need it, I was just trying to see whether it's possible
sullen wharf
`super.customObjectives.put("Objective13", Map.of("objectiveType", "DIALOG", "fi...
Amusing
ivory sleet
In this case, I ofc don't need it, I was just trying to see whether it's possibl...
ah okay yeah it doesnt work sadly
torn shuttle
one of these days I will craft a line so long it goes over the discord character limit
tardy delta
is that (HashMap<String, String> this even valid?
tender shard
this is what I mean
ez fix lmao
new HashMap<String,String>() {
{
this.getClass().getMethods().add(new Method("put", this.getClass(), String.class, String.class));
}
};
I mean the receiver param is a thing
tardy delta
never heard of it tho
ivory sleet
by the specs of java
sullen wharf
one of these days I will craft a line so long it goes over the discord character...
That's easy for u
ivory sleet
yeah its uncommon because it is rarely needed
sullen wharf
You need a real challenge
tender shard
is that (HashMap<String, String> this even valid?
depends
ivory sleet
but essentially, methods are fake
ivory sleet
they are just static functions where the caller object is just the first parameter
lost matrix
divisors are the a b c d e
PS: If you want to still use the brute force approach that has to use a while loop then here is a working example for orientation:
public static int smallestCommonDiv(int... numbers) {
boolean allEven = true;
for(int i : numbers) {
if(i % 2 != 0) {
allEven = false;
break;
}
}
if(allEven) {
return 2;
}
int largest = IntStream.of(numbers).max().orElseThrow();
int smallestCommon = 2;
div_loop:
while (smallestCommon <= largest) {
smallestCommon++;
for(int i : numbers) {
if(i % smallestCommon != 0) {
continue div_loop;
}
}
break;
}
if(smallestCommon > largest) {
throw new IllegalArgumentException("No common divisor possible for " + Arrays.toString(numbers));
}
return smallestCommon;
}
with a null check ofc
tardy delta
hmm
lost matrix
<@583252968497872900>
I feel like this is a poopy java feature... receiver type params shouldnt be a thing.
tender shard
yeah that's also the only reason I see for them to exist
torn shuttle
ain't it a beaut
solid cargo
PS: If you want to still use the brute force approach that has to use a while lo...
great thanks. now i have to remake it in php since thats what we learn in school
shouldnt be too hard i think
ivory sleet
đź’€
sullen wharf
ain't it a beaut
Its a beaut
torn shuttle
this puppy can fit so many objectives
solid cargo
yeah i know
echo basalt
As beautiful as it gets
solid cargo
and some method names will change but thats mostly it
torn shuttle
way better than the old crummy format
tender shard
this is also weird
sullen wharf
way better than the old crummy format
Jesus fucking christ
echo basalt
Mister magma..
sullen wharf
đź’€
torn shuttle
wait, that's illegal
echo basalt
Your code is so bad
tender shard
this is also weird
it only complains about "might be null" when the first annotation is Nullable, not if it's the second one
torn shuttle
Your code is so bad
you have a typo on "amazing"
echo basalt
Thinking your value, comes out from that
lost matrix
tender shard
<:PES_Suspicious:644097331121225728>
what's wrong with that lol
sullen wharf
I came here to see some beautiful code and MagmaGuy ain't disappointing me
torn shuttle
so the new code automatically converts the hundreds of quest formats that already existed and selects only the translatable elements to be dumped into the translation file, and automatically reads from those entries for the selected language
sullen wharf
đź‘Ś
torn shuttle
this is a coding technique I've invented which I call the gigachad technique
sullen wharf
Agreed
Do more
đź‘Ť
Magma
If you continue like that, Illusion will be forever sleep deprived one day
Because of his nightmares
Just so you know
midnight shore
Hi, how can I wait a bit before continuing a for loop?
like every element it waits 2 ticks
torn shuttle
imillusion is evil and I will know my code shone brightly upon this wretched world the day he has a stroke reading my 1-line a* pathfinding algorithm
sullen wharf
Sheesh
torn shuttle
alright time to dump hundreds of quests on the system and see it work flawlessly first try
echo basalt
imillusion is evil and I will know my code shone brightly upon this wretched wor...
14ms
torn shuttle
hm
echo basalt
Main thread :)
untold jewel
like every element it waits 2 ticks
?scheduling
undone axleBOT
echo basalt
19 hours to trace damn
torn shuttle
stated 19:48:50
that's 0ms babyyyyy
because I am not logging anything under seconds
echo basalt
Thats 0 seconds
torn shuttle
#winning
my only regret is not being able to have it take 10 minutes and have a compilation of messages explaining how cool my code is while it does it for everyone online to read
class cast exception? on my code? java must be bugged
lost matrix
Instant complaint straight to oracle
torn shuttle
I'm not even reading these logs, just sending them to oracle via priority mail
memory section can't be cast to map
tender shard
I love how copilot instantly realizes when I'm bored and just plays along
near valve
Does anyone know how I could roll back the variables from mysql back to a .csv file in a script? And what are the variables in mysql to be in the .csv file?
tender shard
what "variables"?
I sent you a link earlier that exports your tables / db into a csv file
untold jewel
baby mfnalex
tender shard
mysql does not save "variables" in tables but values
torn shuttle
I don't know why working with configuration sections gives me a headache
untold jewel
u got a gui api for me? :P
untold jewel
grrrrrrr
torn shuttle
I feel like I always end up getting stuck doing configuration section conversions to maps all the time
tardy delta
factoryfactory brrrrrt
near valve
Yes mfnalex, but the skript plugin doesn't read it
tender shard
I feel like I always end up getting stuck doing configuration section conversion...
Me too lol
/**
* Turns a ConfigurationSection into a Map<String,Object> (just like SnakeYAML)
*/
public static Map<String, Object> asMap(@Nonnull final ConfigurationSection section) {
final Map<String, Object> map = new HashMap<>();
section.getKeys(false).forEach(key -> map.put(key, section.get(key)));
return map;
}
what skript plugin? and what does it not read?
near valve
Plugin: Skript
tender shard
and what does it not read?
near valve
look
torn shuttle
alright it's working now
finally
lmao
the translation file is now a mere 11655 lines, and I don't have all of the content on here
serene sigil
why does TextComponent not work?
tender shard
it does work
serene sigil
near valve
and what does it not read?
Look, The default variables in script look like this
serene sigil
java.awt?
near valve
Look, The default variables in script look like this
And after converting
And the server doesn't load them
serene sigil
@tender shard
tender shard
wdym with "doesnt work"? what are you trying to do?
serene sigil
i searched up how to make hoverable text and saw this:
message.setClickEvent(new ClickEvent(ClickEvent.Action.SUGGEST_COMMAND, "/msg XY "));
message.setHoverEvent(new HoverEvent(HoverEvent.Action.SHOW_TEXT, new Text(“send private message“)));
p.spigot().sendMessage(message);```@tender shard ?
tender shard
<@632994436401594368> ?
no idea what that is or what's it supposed to do. we only do java stuff here, and maybe kotlin. noone here uses skript
and I also don't understand what this file has to do with mysql
tender shard
i searched up how to make hoverable text and saw this:
```TextComponent message...
what dependencies did you add?
torn shuttle
boys, call me todd howard because it just works
tender shard
if you don'T see the bungee chat classes, then you'Re probably using bukkit instead of spigot
serene sigil
if you don'T see the bungee chat classes, then you'Re probably using bukkit inst...
ye, i am i think
how to do it in bukkit?
tender shard
spigot-api does include the bungee chat classes
tender shard
?paste your pom.xml
undone axleBOT
lost matrix
java enterprise code be like
true
serene sigil
?paste your pom.xml
dont hav
tender shard
are you using gradle?
serene sigil
i dont use gradle
tender shard
then I cannot help you
serene sigil
i just added the file as module
lost matrix
DispatcherConfigurationMethodModelFilter
Actual class name
tender shard
manually adding dependencies is so 90's
serene sigil
manually adding dependencies is so 90's
lol
tender shard
you should definitely look into switching to maven or gradle instead
it's annoying for 5 hours and after that you'll love it
serene sigil
yea but its the same thing...
tender shard
well I just add spigot-api as dependency to my pom and then everything works
I dont even need to have spigot-api.jar on my PC anywhere, maven handles all of this
serene sigil
it's annoying for 5 hours and after that you'll love it
true, i tried it once and it was so annoying that i just used the regular
tender shard
it just works automatically
serene sigil
ik
tender shard
well it does
serene sigil
the class is just missing
tender shard
it doesnt work for you because you're using the wrong dependency
serene sigil
somehow
tender shard
you are using the spigot-api jar instead of the shaded one
only the shaded api .jar includes all the dependencies you need
you wouldnt have this problem if you'D just use maven or gradle
serene sigil
can u send the link plz :3
tender shard
it's in spigot's maven repo
serene sigil
i dont really want to open another gradle project :3
tender shard
there is no other official source, except if you build it yourself using buildtools
tender shard
i dont really want to open another gradle project :3
that's why I suggested maven to you three times lol
?bt
undone axleBOT
tender shard
if you run buildtools, you should have some "spigot-api-1.19.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar"
that's the one you need
chrome beacon
?bootstrap
undone axleBOT
Bootstrap Jar
The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or the entire contents of the bundler directory from your server, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.
Please read the release notes for further information: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/9-years-of-spigotmc-spigot-bungeecord-1-18-1-18-1-release.534760/#post-4305163
serene sigil
lmao
tender shard
when you run buildtools, it is in YourBuildToolsDir/Spigot/Spigot-API/target/
and it should be around 4.5 MB
chrome beacon
NMS without Gradle or Maven is a pain to work with
tender shard
chrome beacon
True
tender shard
my photoshop skills are so good
quiet ice
There are a few circumstances where not using Gradle or Maven is a better choice, but in 99% of cases that is not the case
quiet ice
Nah, that is the 0%
quiet ice
When you need to have rather fine control over something and when it is simply not worth to learn the gradle API
chrome beacon
me when i coded for 1.12
If you have the jar you can just use that
(On 1.12)
quiet ice
The maven API is nice and all, but the IDE integration is lackluster once you start writing your own plugins
fluid river
If you have the jar you can just use that
(On 1.12)
that's what i said
chrome beacon
?
quiet ice
Gradle API takes ages to understand
chrome beacon
you can just use jar
You can use the jar with maven or gradle
quiet ice
mvn install is a thing btw
fluid river
as a dependency
fluid river
You can use the jar with maven or gradle
oh true
chrome beacon
Yeah
fluid river
local dependency
quiet ice
And if you feel lazy, <scope>system</scope> and file://-repositories are a thing
chrome beacon
Yeah but that's a bad way to do it
quiet ice
Scope is deprecated, file shouldnt be
quiet ice
Mixins stupidity?
Hard-depends on log4j and modlauncher JPMS modules even though it technically does not need to
chrome beacon
Just exclude that dependency then?
quiet ice
Then JPMS would complain about missing modules
quaint mantle
Super weird question - Is it possible to make a spigot plugin in C/C++, but when compiled it gets compiled into a .jar?
I'm not that good with java
I know its possible to compile C/C++ code into a jar but im not sure if it works with spigot
quaint mantle
You'd also see no performance gains
wdym
if its compiled into a JAR
its already as slow as a regular java program
quiet ice
If anything you'd pack it into a .dll/.so within the jar
But yes it is possible, but you really wouldn't want to do it
I would wait for project panama to complete before working with natives though
quaint mantle
NestedVM provides binary translation for Java Bytecode. This is done by having GCC compile to a MIPS binary which is then translated to a Java class file. Hence any application written in C, C++, Fortran, or any other language supported by GCC can be run in 100% pure Java with no source changes.
(quote from stackoverflow)
Well I planned on compiling the code for the java virtual machine. and not as a native app
vocal cloud
its already as slow as a regular java program
Correct which means it'd be more intuitive to write it in java and reap the benefits of having access to all the tutorials and help written in java
quiet ice
Which uhm, could take a few years - although iirc preview features start being available from J20
quiet ice
> NestedVM provides binary translation for Java Bytecode. This is done by having...
so you mean you want to write it in C/C++ and then compile it down to LLVM bytecode to then translate it to JVM Bytecode?
ivory sleet
I know its possible to compile C/C++ code into a jar but im not sure if it works...
I know a plugin that uses JNI
Tho i don’t know if thats what u want
quaint mantle
so you mean you want to write it in C/C++ and then compile it down to LLVM bytec...
well just something that gets compiled for the JVM
quiet ice
You can just use natives you know
ivory sleet
Being able to use cpp code, or you mean transpile cpp to java or compile cpp to jvm bytecode?
quiet ice
Although interop with java code is a bit cumbersome
quaint mantle
Being able to use cpp code, or you mean transpile cpp to java or compile cpp to ...
compile cpp to jvm bytecode
hoary quartz
?paste
undone axleBOT
ivory sleet
If you can find a cpp compiler for jvm sure, but I’d say that it at best produces a decent result
Instead Id advocate JNI
quiet ice
Or panama
ivory sleet
Ye
ivory sleet
I mean going from cpp to java is generally not a time consuming process
hoary quartz
hey guys, sorry to interrupt anything here but I have on question
I took the source code from the CourierNew plugin (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/couriernew-a-unique-mail-system.68099/) and I am editing it in a way so that when the player logs in the server, delete the letter in the hand (the code I've done https://paste.md-5.net/nikujefute.cs) but when I log in, the letter it's not delete, it's still on hand
ivory sleet
Assuming you’re proficient in cpp
quaint mantle
I though it could be easier to make it in C++ since I didn't feel like opening IntelliJ idea
quiet ice
You can also not use an IDE at all, but that is very painful for beginners
main galleon
Hi, is there a way to tell the server that a player is at position xyz without the player beiing there? Need it for a packet based plugin because chunks will not load otherwise.
topaz moon
Hi, is there a way to tell the server that a player is at position xyz without t...
wouldn't that trigger some anti cheat plugins? :D
topaz moon
fair enough
quiet ice
why not load the chunks properly through chunk tickets?
main galleon
Becaus the server still thinks that the player is still at the position where he entered (in my case a packed based car)
The player gets mounted via packets
quiet ice
then you most likely need to use NMS
And set the internal X/Y/Z variables of the player manually.
However in what way chunks can be loaded - idk
Worst case scenario you'll dispatch the chunk tickets yourself
main galleon
Is there a way to find the correct nms class quickly?
quiet ice
Recaf ig
grim ice
I know its possible to compile C/C++ code into a jar but im not sure if it works...
Why would you
Why would you even use C lmao except for speed
quaint mantle
Its what I understand
quiet ice
Lack of experience with java
remote swallow
isnt cpp really similar to java
grim ice
isnt cpp really similar to java
No
grim ice
no its not
quaint mantle
but java has some small differences
quiet ice
isnt cpp really similar to java
Some things are some things are not
quaint mantle
which makes me not want to use it
grim ice
no its way too different
quaint mantle
C++ is C but with all the needed things implemented
quiet ice
APIs are insanely different, syntax and everything else is near-identical
quaint mantle
I haven't used C in a while
quiet ice
Different in what circumstance?
ivory sleet
C isnt object oriented
grim ice
- java is oop c is not
quiet ice
We are talking about the programming language
quaint mantle
C isnt object oriented
no
ivory sleet
tho Obj-C and cpp is
quaint mantle
C++ is though
quiet ice
C itself is not platform dependent
quaint mantle
it isn't hard to make a C/C++ program cross-platform
grim ice
C requires manual memory management
quaint mantle
atleast what with I've done
quiet ice
C requires manual memory management
Oh wow, such a difference
ivory sleet
it isn't hard to make a C/C++ program cross-platform
yes well its a pain
to some extent
grim ice
Oh wow, such a difference
Yes
i dont know what to tell you if you think C is similar to Java, of course they have similarities because they're of the same family, but that's all theres to it
quiet ice
memory management is nothing compared to the fact that linking is absolutely cumbersome in C/C++ world
grim ice
comparing them is dumb on itself
quaint mantle
C requires manual memory management
And therefore programs made in C and C++ allow you to manage memory better
ivory sleet
better
quaint mantle
Java has a garbage collector
ivory sleet
maybe more efficiently
grim ice
And therefore programs made in C and C++ allow you to manage memory better
they give you more control, that's all
if you suck, you'll suck in both languages
ivory sleet
but java has neat garbage collectors, jvm impls and jit compiler
grim ice
I don't see any reason to learn C honestly
ivory sleet
and the new vector, foreign mem, foreing function api
cloud falcon
anyone here have experience with buildtools?
ivory sleet
yeah, we have much more ram to use compared to back then
quaint mantle
I don't see any reason to learn C honestly
It actually teaches you very well how the computer works
and what you are doing
grim ice
It actually teaches you very well how the computer works
how?
ivory sleet
so only that puts C at a disadvantage since you rarely need super optimized mem man
ivory sleet
It actually teaches you very well how the computer works
thats true
grim ice
in which way does it teach you very well how the computer works
ivory sleet
its more machine near def
quiet ice
so only that puts C at a disadvantage since you rarely need super optimized mem ...
Except for embedded
quaint mantle
matter of fact if C didn't exist java wouldn't be there either
ivory sleet
Except for embedded
mye
tardy delta
embedded goes brr
grim ice
matter of fact if C didn't exist java wouldn't be there either
that's not what we're talking about
ivory sleet
matter of fact if C didn't exist java wouldn't be there either
but thats not an argument why you should learn C (or use it)
grim ice
from where did that come from lol
grim ice
that's like saying kotlin is worse than java because java came first
that's not a valid argument
grim ice
then explain to me, as you seem like you're pretty good at C?
quaint mantle
but thats not an argument why you should learn C (or use it)
You're right, maybe the argument before was more fit
grim ice
that's the most pointless argument I've seen about C, I'm sorry
ivory sleet
but anyway I do agree learning C would enhance your understandings of how to program closer to the computer
quaint mantle
whats the debate
Over why I've learned C
ivory sleet
tho Idk if its that needed in today's industry
obsidian drift
For any sort of low level development you will probably use C
glossy venture
its fast
grim ice
You can learn how a computer works regardless of the language
glossy venture
its nice with pointer arithmetic
quaint mantle
that's the most pointless argument I've seen about C, I'm sorry
If you don't know C, then you wouldn't get it
C is still used
well
C++
ivory sleet
For any sort of low level development you will probably use C
myeah, altho tbf Id say cpp is still favored even to c
grim ice
If you don't know C, then you wouldn't get it
I do know how a computer works for the most part, you should be able to explain it fairly easily
quiet ice
The main reason I personally would use C is sscanf
glossy venture
value -> string in C++ is a pain
quaint mantle
value -> string in C++ is a pain
std::string or just char pointer
quiet ice
I do know how a computer works for the most part, you should be able to explain ...
but at a software level?
glossy venture
std::string or just char pointer
i mean to stringing like an object
or something
theres no common toString method on C++ objects
or shit like that
grim ice
of course there are
glossy venture
its fast
ivory sleet
there are a few, wouldn't say many
grim ice
just not for the casual developer
quaint mantle
idk how it went from me asking if its possible to compile C++ for the JVM for spigot to a kid angry at me because I've learned C
grim ice
idk how it went from me asking if its possible to compile C++ for the JVM for sp...
I'm not trying to offend you, rather, your argument
quaint mantle
I'm not trying to offend you, rather, your argument
ok
hey, everyone has their opinions
grim ice
🤷🏻‍♂️
ivory sleet
yeah
obsidian drift
idk how it went from me asking if its possible to compile C++ for the JVM for sp...
Casual developer is a very general term
Replied to the wrong message
grim ice
Casual developer is a very general term
that reply is supposed to be to my message right?
glossy venture
would pointer arithmetic work when compiling C++ for the jvm
grim ice
yeah
Well yes it is a general term, but what I'm trying to say is that, the cases where you really need C are very few
fossil lily
oof C
quiet ice
would pointer arithmetic work when compiling C++ for the jvm
If done good enough yes
fossil lily
who even uses it
quiet ice
C is used a lot
grim ice
who even uses it
OS developers
obsidian drift
who even uses it
Well, the entire linux kernel is made in C
fossil lily
cries in not object oriented
grim ice
C is used a lot
of course it is, that;s not the topic
obsidian drift
Many many projects are made in C
quiet ice
Well, the entire linux kernel is made in C
No longer true
obsidian drift
No longer true
Huh?
quiet ice
Yeah, rust
quaint mantle
the thing is, maybe if I've learned java first, I wouldn't start with asking the question, but I've been coding C and C++ for so much that It's easy for me
obsidian drift
Linus Torvalds is very against the idea of rust in the kernel
it was an idea but it hasn't happened yet
glossy venture
Yeah, rust
they tested an NVMe driver written in rust
quiet ice
but those are drivers
Eh kernel - drivers - same thing
glossy venture
havent heard of rust in the kernel
quiet ice
Without drivers the kernel wouldn't function anyways
glossy venture
yes its part of the kernel
well it runs in the kernel right
its modular
its just a program
or does linux have them compiled in the kernel
grim ice
Ive never found linux taht interesting tbh
grim ice
is there really a reason to switch to it
quaint mantle
Ive never found linux taht interesting tbh
only reasons why I use linux is because of the shitty backdoors placed into windows by the NSA
glossy venture
is there really a reason to switch to it
nah i dont see a reason
just for servers
and the GNU tools
quaint mantle
It's not a full fact but there is alot of proof
quiet ice
For development linux is pretty good
glossy venture
fucking pain to get gcc on windows
grim ice
only reasons why I use linux is because of the shitty backdoors placed into wind...
wow i seriously care about a backdoor made by the NSA
why would they care about me actually
im pretty much a random, the backdoor has no use
quiet ice
Especially sudo alternatives --config java is such a lifesaver on linux
quaint mantle
wow i seriously care about a backdoor made by the NSA
and windows is proprietary
glossy venture
so
quiet ice
Alternatives is the only reason I'd recommend linux for java tbh
quaint mantle
I guess I'm just used to using linux and programming in C++
grim ice
and windows is proprietary
then?
crimson terrace
and windows is proprietary
glossy venture
idk why people care so much that shit is propietary
tardy delta
c++ isnt platform dependent right?
crimson terrace
idk why, it was funny
glossy venture
c++ isnt platform dependent right?
yes it is
grim ice
it is
quiet ice
c++ isnt platform dependent right?
C++ itself is not
grim ice
it is platform dependent
glossy venture
well
quiet ice
The syscalls are
quaint mantle
depends, most of the time it is platform dependent
tardy delta
so the compiled stuff is platform dependent?
glossy venture
The syscalls are
you often need to change code to support different oses
just look at the jvm
code
quiet ice
Talking about JIT?
glossy venture
no
hotspot source
the jvm
it has like 16 quadrillion different files per platform
quiet ice
https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Ports/OpenJDK shows that it is pretty OS independent if needed
Only thing lacking is JIT due to reasons
glossy venture
they arent done yet right
quiet ice
It is only compatible with mostly POSIX-compliant systems, but that isn't part of the C++ standard
glossy venture
and im pretty sure serenity os is on the same standard as like unix oses
oh ye posix
but if you want to take advantage of low level features or build anything with OS API code you will have to change some shit around, especially when working with windows
quiet ice
Windows is fucking stupid
glossy venture
why
quiet ice
Implements POSIX syscalls as NOPs
glossy venture
yeah its api sucks
glossy venture
idk if this would matter
dont think it would be too hard to implement posix tho
they couldve implemented it into NT kernel though
quiet ice
If they don't implement POSIX syscalls then don't implement them
There is just no excuse to have execlp be implemented as a NOP
#include <windows.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <tchar.h>
void _tmain(int argc, TCHAR* argv[])
{
STARTUPINFO si;
PROCESS_INFORMATION pi;
ZeroMemory(&si, sizeof(si));
si.cb = sizeof(si);
ZeroMemory(&pi, sizeof(pi));
if (argc < 2)
{
argv = new TCHAR*[]{ argv[0], "javaw -jar starloader.jar" };
}
// Start the child process.
if (!CreateProcess(NULL, argv[1], NULL, NULL, FALSE, 0, NULL, NULL, &si, &pi))
{
printf("CreateProcess failed (%d).\n", GetLastError());
return;
}
if (argc > 2 && !_tccmp(argv[2], "--console"))
{
WaitForSingleObject(pi.hProcess, INFINITE);
CloseHandle(pi.hProcess);
CloseHandle(pi.hThread);
}
}
vs
#include <unistd.h>
int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
if (argc > 1) {
char *args[3];
args[0] = "java";
args[1] = "-jar";
args[2] = argv[1];
execvp("java", args);
}
return execlp("java", "java", "-jar", "starloader.jar");
}
so unnecessary
tardy delta
c syntax weird sometimes
quiet ice
it's syntax is identical to javas syntax for the most part
At least to traditional java, it has changed quite a lot in the last years I have to admit
tardy delta
maybe i should've said the lack of convention
quiet ice
Well that is what naturally happens if everyone believes that they are the authority on everything
tardy delta
🥲
small current
Especially `sudo alternatives --config java` is such a lifesaver on linux
what it does
hazy parrot
Nice cli for changing java binary to different ver
quiet ice
change out what java version is used
You can also couple it to a few commands to change the java home env dir to have even more control
export JAVA_HOME=`alternatives --display java | grep "link currently points to" | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -o -P "[\\/].+" | sed -e "s/bin\/java//"`
being exactly such a command
tranquil viper
So I'm making a player run a command, however, I don't know if the player is online or offline so I am using OfflinePlayer to be safe. Would errors occur if the player was online?
quiet ice
No, in that case the Player instance would be used
Player extends OfflinePlayer so no worries to be had here
tranquil viper
Thanks :)
tranquil viper
I'm not
quiet ice
Probably within the command itself
tranquil viper
Online player is a staff member that is running a command with the target being an offline player
tender shard
oh ok so your command takes something like
public void doSomething(CommandSender sender, OfflinePlayer target);
yeah that's no problem ofc
tranquil viper
private void punish(Player staff, UUID target, String punishmentType)
tender shard
yeah that's no problem
tranquil viper
Thanks
tender shard
(but you want to allow the console to also punish players, so dont use Player staff but CommandSender staff 🙂 )
torn oyster
does entity.getName() change when I do entity.setCustomName()? it doesn't seem to add to a team but it might be because of the custom name changing often
tranquil viper
It's gui based
tranquil viper
xD
tranquil viper
does entity.getName() change when I do entity.setCustomName()? it doesn't seem t...
getDisplayName() would change I believe
torn shuttle
alright so that's
tranquil viper
My fault I read it wrong
tender shard
does entity.getName() change when I do entity.setCustomName()? it doesn't seem t...
yes
torn oyster
yes
ok well
that means i would have to remove and add them to the team whenever i change name?
tender shard
it returns ZOMBIE or similar for unnamed mobs, and "MyCustomName" for named zombies
tender shard
that means i would have to remove and add them to the team whenever i change nam...
what are you trying to do?
getName() returns the type name, or, if set, the custon name
tender shard
can entities even be part of a team? I dont know
torn oyster
apparently
tender shard
hm no idea
I fucking hate this whole scoreboard / team system lmao
can you not use entity IDs or UUIDs to manage teams and stuff?
torn oyster
i could try lol
tender shard
people suggested to use the UUID as string
then md_5 asked "what did you try"
and then the conversation ended without any solution lol
hm it looks like NMS teams can only have "Players", no entities?
young knoll
You can 100% put entities on teams
tender shard
yeah but how?
torn oyster
well entities can be added
tender shard
the api docs for Team are pretty shitty
torn oyster
can confirm
tender shard
well entities can be added
and how?
torn shuttle
isn't putting entities in teams the way some plugins do the health bars?
torn oyster
not addPlayer
tender shard
oh okay, someone should PR this to the javadocs
torn oyster
i believe you can use entity name too
wait no
because there is often more than 1 entity with that name
i think names are for players
and uuids are for players and entities?
young knoll
I believe so
tender shard
and uuids are for players and entities?
all entities have their own UUID, yes
young knoll
The scoreboard system is kinda wack, even in vanilla
torn oyster
why doesn't mojang just fix the scoreboards and create it based on the way people actually use it
torn shuttle
*and not in the good way*
so in the same way it feels when you shot my dog?
torn oyster
bro what the fuck is this conversation
tender shard
why doesn't mojang just fix the scoreboards and create it based on the way peopl...
why dont they stop obfuscating MC when they release the obf maps anyway, or add the mod api they promised to add like 100 years ago
torn shuttle
alex infamously shot my dog after I asked for support
torn shuttle
he's a menace, a dentist, an oral hygienist
torn shuttle
you're a dentist's secretary who gets high on laughing gas in your break time
and shoots dogs
tender shard
maybe that's why he became a dentist
maybe I watch too much The Office
btw wtf is the impementation of bukkit's Team?
There is no CraftTeam
or my intellij is weird
torn shuttle
don't look at the teams code
if you look at it too hard it will crumble away into nothing
torn shuttle
probably for the best
tender shard
there are a few things I will NEVER touch
- custom entities (annoying and enough plugins that do that already)
- scoreboard / teams (vanilla's system is already stupid enough)
- sweet popcorn. just get salty one, like wtf
torn oyster
is it a concern that i've been using java for 2 years and have only just touched completable futures
remote swallow
what about sweet and salty
tender shard
is it a concern that i've been using java for 2 years and have only just touched...
no
tender shard
what about sweet and salty
I prefer a kilogram of salt, and no sugar
echo basalt
sweet popcorn is based and I'll hate you if you say otherwise
torn shuttle
is it a concern that i've been using java for 2 years and have only just touched...
that's fine, I've been on here for 5 years and I don't even know what that is
remote swallow
I prefer a kilogram of salt, and no sugar
just satl
torn oyster
salted caramel
echo basalt
CompletableFutures are great lol
tender shard
salt > sugar. my kidney stones agree
torn oyster
CompletableFutures are great lol
does the spigot api use them anywhere?
echo basalt
Not sure
tender shard
i dont think so
young knoll
Yes
echo basalt
But also spigot api doesn't mass with databases n all
tender shard
or maybe the PlayerProfile API
young knoll
PlayerProfile has one iirc
remote swallow
poor coll
tender shard
yeah what a fucking noob, ikr
echo basalt
ChunkStatus API
torn oyster
shouldn't WorldCreator#createWorld() have one
echo basalt
ChunkSaveTask, some color code
remote swallow
yeah what a fucking noob, ikr
coll isnt noob
torn oyster
or something
tender shard
ChunkSaveTask, some color code
should, yes
echo basalt
young knoll
I’d like to see the ability to load OfflinePlayer’s data via a future
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And some more
torn oyster
or is it pretty much instant
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remote swallow
how would you explan vector math
echo basalt
how would you explan vector math
There are 2 ways to think of a vector
One is an offset point
The other is an absolute value (offset to 0,0,0)
tender shard
how would you explan vector math
instead of doing x * y, you do x1|x2|x3 * y which is the same as x1*y|x2*y|x3*y
echo basalt
A vector is basically an offset that applies to a 3D point useful for stuff like animations and all
rotating the vector just means that you're rotating the offset relative to your origin points
tender shard
vector math is just doing math with more than one number lol
torn shuttle
And some more
zoom in, enhance
remote swallow
instead of doing x * y, you do x1|x2|x3 * y which is the same as `x1*y|x2*y|x3*y...
so its not as brain exploding as i thought
echo basalt
Vector1 - vector2 just pulls vector1 towards vector2
Vector1 + vector2 distances them apart
tender shard
so its not as brain exploding as i thought
and x1,x2,x3 * y1,y2,y3 is the same as x1*y1, x2*y2, x3*y3
echo basalt
Dot product is just an intersection value, lower the better iirc
tender shard
and yeah then there's stuff like dot/cross product etc
but the general idea is simple
adding vectors is also extremely simple
(1,2) + (2,3) is just (1+2, 2+3)
echo basalt
Normalizing a vector means that it keeps its original proportions, but the length is set to 1
It internally just divides all values by length
echo basalt
It's useful to scale a vector to a certain length, where you just normalize and multiply by whatever length you want