help-development

[echo basalt]

mmmmmmmmmmm gum

[compact haven]

^ statistically speaking

[echo basalt]

there was no gum

[tender shard]

it's even ahead of Parks & Recreation

[echo basalt]

rip there was no gum

I mean

I find peaky blinders like

50% weird silence, 50% cool beans

[compact haven]

what you’re all favorites donut

[echo basalt]

well

[compact haven]

forgive grammar my phone is annoying to type on

[echo basalt]

we don't really have donut shops here

like

we have plain sugar donuts for 35 cents

but they're absolute garbage

we also have chocolate donuts here for 45 cents each but they all melt in your fingers and it's absolute garbage

[tender shard]

fun fact: germany tried to copy the office, which already is a copy of the original british series. the german one is called "Stromberg" and the first episode is basically a 1:1 copy of the original thing. but then it went into it's own direction and they even made a 100 minute cinema movie out of it

[compact haven]

you don’t have bakery donuts? Tf

[tender shard]

this is the german office, "Stromberg"

[tender shard]

whut

[echo basalt]

yeah we don't

[compact haven]

that’s sad :(

[tender shard]

well we only have donuts in normal bakeries

[echo basalt]

dunkin donuts is a weird ass concept to me and I'm willing to check it out next year when I visit the states

[tender shard]

yeah it's indeed weird but their breakfast stuff is awesome

[echo basalt]

I also tried starbucks here

closest starbucks is like 2 hours away

it's decent

pricy as hell but decent

[tender shard]

starbucks can suck my gay dick

[echo basalt]

their chocolate cake is nice

[tender shard]

weirdest concept ever

who tf pays 7€ for a coffee

[echo basalt]

I mena

[tender shard]

I could buy a whole crate of beer for 7€

[echo basalt]

it's more of a milkshake thing

java iced coffee tho

it's nice

has like tiny bits you can almost chew on

think its chocolate not sure

[tender shard]

hm well

[echo basalt]

it's coffee for the people who don't like coffee type deal

also a great place to chill

coffee here is just tiny and all

what if you want a longer thing

[tender shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c1F0PpbHdg well I take my coffee black... like my men

[echo basalt]

that doesn't make you more energetic than crazy frog

[tender shard]

haha best movie ever

[echo basalt]

hehehehaw

[tender shard]

this really went down in history as the best worst movie ever

[buoyant viper]

right above Morbius

[echo basalt]

I like my coffee like I like my women

without other people's dick in it

[tender shard]

"non-existant"

[buoyant viper]

"i dont like coffee"

[tender shard]

😄

[echo basalt]

I'm a developer I forgor

idek how I'll find a partner later on in life

[tender shard]

well, being a dev doesn't have to mean you don't get laid. unless you do stuff in kotlin

[echo basalt]

I pull up to the programming course and there's like 28 guys and 1 girl

[severe oak]

or php

[echo basalt]

I make minecraft plugins for a living

[tender shard]

win/win situation for me

[buoyant viper]

HAHA fr

[tender shard]

true lol

[buoyant viper]

my comp sci class had like 4 girls including me and then like 20 guys

[echo basalt]

the gay guy and the single girl there get along pretty well

[tender shard]

exactly

[echo basalt]

there are 2 girls in the entire course compared to the ~110 guys

I have more female teachers than I have females in my class it's painful

[tender shard]

since I told everyone I'm gay, I made so much friends with girls, because they simply think "ok this dude won't try to hit on me, he really just wants to be friends"

[severe oak]

You make a living off Minecraft plugins?

[echo basalt]

also it seems like the more knowledgeable the teacher is, the more freaky he is into crypto

[echo basalt]

yeah

[severe oak]

Must be nice

[echo basalt]

it kinda is

[tender shard]

me too

[echo basalt]

and kinda isnt

[tender shard]

but it sucks

[echo basalt]

like the top teacher there once approached me

"you work with crypto?"

[tender shard]

sometimes you make 200€ on one day, and nothing on the next. you never know how much money you actually make, it's always different every day

[echo basalt]

and started licking all over himself

[echo basalt]

some days you make 600$, other days you only make 100

[tender shard]

well i never made 600 by selling plugins

[buoyant viper]

some days u become an overnight millionaire some days ur wallets as dry as the sahara

[echo basalt]

I made 600$ in 56 minutes from a single commision

[compact haven]

What

[tender shard]

I used to make 100k€/year when I was still a lawyer but that's a loooong time ago lol

[severe oak]

I used to do commissions for bedrock edition but no money there so I’m tryna get started in Java edition. I got a couple of years of experience with spigot

[echo basalt]

I got about 5-6 years experience

[compact haven]

how did an hour commission pay 600 usd

[echo basalt]

I offered 200$/server or 600$ with unlimited resell rights

[buoyant viper]

made like $200 off of selling a minecraft cheat lolz

thats abt it

[echo basalt]

guy went with the 600$ option

[compact haven]

ah okay

[tender shard]

selling a cheat?

wdym

[compact haven]

wait

[echo basalt]

he only used it in a single server

[severe oak]

$200 for whole server? Damn that’s cheap

[buoyant viper]

i made a client for cheating on NoCheatPlus (lol remember when that was relevant) and sold the jar to ppl

[echo basalt]

it's a plugin

200$ for the license to use in a single server

single seat type thing

[compact haven]

You made a plug-in in an hour and sold it for 200$

[tender shard]

why btw

[echo basalt]

yes

[compact haven]

tell me where you find such willing clients what the fuck

[severe oak]

Makes sense. Where do you guys even find commissions anyways?

[echo basalt]

they contact me

[tender shard]

you dont find them, they find you

[echo basalt]

nowadays people just contact me

offering contracts

[buoyant viper]

god i wish someone would find me

[echo basalt]

had a guy offer me a contract for 40$/hr

[buoyant viper]

my website is out there 💔

[echo basalt]

to work on my own public plugin

[compact haven]

no joke

[echo basalt]

or well, a fork of it

[tender shard]

this is my main source of income lol

at least right now, until I got my flying insctructor license

[compact haven]

does it work well

[river oracle]

do you get a lot of commissions

[echo basalt]

this is my main source of income

not the group

but the text above it

[tender shard]

too many, I can't reply to them all anymore

[river oracle]

that sucks

[compact haven]

that’s it I’m working on plugins to release

and my website

[echo basalt]

I get to pick and choose what commissions I Want

[tender shard]

yes it's annoying. especially people who demand an answer within an hour

[echo basalt]

I guess what sets me apart is my quick response times

[tender shard]

they don't understand that I have to sleep sometimes

[river oracle]

After I'm done working for the server I work for atm I might conisder comissions now that I had my parents set me up paypal and such

I can also accept crypto lol

[echo basalt]

if a customer asks a question via DM I reply within 5 minutes

[tender shard]

say that again when you're asleep and people keep demanding answers >.<

[severe oak]

I’ve dealt with annoying clients like that. Usually little kids

[echo basalt]

I wake up in the middle of sleep

to reply

[buoyant viper]

it wasnt the prettiest but ||https://youtu.be/IgKpRP4w-Js|| (mods pls no ban im just showing old work) @tender shard

[tender shard]

yeah it's really annoying

[echo basalt]

I got my phone under my pillow

[compact haven]

probably not worth your time anyways if they’re like that

they’ll make more trouble than it’s worth

[echo basalt]

some kids are like

"I want this within a day"

and ping you every 3 hours for an update

[tender shard]

exactly

[echo basalt]

on a 5$ commission

[compact haven]

LOL

[tender shard]

and they want it to work in 1.8 - 1.19

[echo basalt]

1.7 - 1.19

and support future versions

with async blocks

lagless

[tender shard]

oh yes, async

ofc

[severe oak]

I got paid $60 for a commission and then my client ghosted me. Made 0 sense

Free money though

[tender shard]

okay now let me tell you a story

[echo basalt]

take the cash and move on

[compact haven]

wait

you take cash before developing? Wut

[echo basalt]

you take upfront for annoying clients

[compact haven]

in full*

[echo basalt]

or for very low budgets

[compact haven]

ah

[echo basalt]

higher budgets you take smaller cuts as you go

I have a high budget plugin that has paid me a percentage of the budget every meeting to avoid banks getting too suspicious

[tender shard]

when I was still a lawyer, I once made 1500€ or so within an hour. But I had to be at the court within 10 minutes or so, so I totally speeded. police caught me doing 140kmh where only 70kmh is allowed. I had to pay over 1000€ for the traffic ticket. But, and that's the funny thing - I could deduct that from the tax because obviously I was only going so fast to do my job. Oh, yeah, and when I arrived at the court, it was already too late

[river oracle]

My first plugin sold for 20 dollars lol

[echo basalt]

imagine pulling up a lawyer in a traffic spot

[tender shard]

why not

[echo basalt]

my first commission was for 20$

took me a week

second was for like 5$

took me a week

[tender shard]

whut

[echo basalt]

I did 5$ jobs for way too long

[tender shard]

you should adjust your prices lol

[river oracle]

you sold your first commission I sold my first plugin :P

[compact haven]

he definitely did already lol

[river oracle]

First java project as well

[echo basalt]

nowadays I charge like 50$ minimum because I won't bother with stupid jobs

anything below 50$ will be outsourced to my IRL best friend

that has like 4 months of spigot experience

[buoyant viper]

what about $49.99

[tender shard]

I usually simply tell people "it's 25€/hour and no, I have no idea how long it will take" and then they either accept that, or leave my server again

[compact haven]

rofl

[echo basalt]

Yeah I charge similarly for longer projects

[ornate patio]

what are y’all talking about

[echo basalt]

"It's 25-35$/hour, tracked with wakatime"

[echo basalt]

customers

[buoyant viper]

making shmoney

[ornate patio]

selling plugins?

[compact haven]

Doing MC development as a job

[echo basalt]

that too

yaeh

[ornate patio]

that’s me rn on Fiverr lol

[echo basalt]

fuck fiverr

not worth it

[river oracle]

fiverr lmfao

[buoyant viper]

im like a jack of no trades master of none 😢

[river oracle]

its better to just build a name for yourrself buy putting out good shit and building a community who just come to you for plugins

[ornate patio]

it’s not worth it in the beginning but when you start getting more customers i think it’s pretty good

[echo basalt]

I wouldn't consider myself as noteable within the community

[compact haven]

illusion, what's your retention rate if you had to guess

[echo basalt]

depends

shitty customers have barely any retention

[tender shard]

my normal commissions are roughly 20-100€. if something takes longer than 5 hours to do, I usually don't accept it in the first place anyway

[compact haven]

o wuts that

[echo basalt]

imagine having a tracking system

I just have a trello board

[tender shard]

how are you sending invoices then? o0

[compact haven]

I use clockify for my current project, but it'd be impossible to use that for commissions where there's too many new clients and not enough old ones

[tender shard]

don't your clients want invoices, so they can tax deduct it?

[echo basalt]

most people just send the money as G&S

[tender shard]

G&S?

[echo basalt]

Goods & Services

[buoyant viper]

goods and services

[compact haven]

goods & services

paypal

[echo basalt]

those who want invoices get a paypal invoice

[tender shard]

how else would they send it

[echo basalt]

as I have a business account

[echo basalt]

Friends & Family are for the sketchy customers

[buoyant viper]

gotta use friends and family so u dont file it for taxes

ezpz

[echo basalt]

I just refuse because seller protection

but yeah

[tender shard]

hm but then they couldn't even use the "complain" system

[echo basalt]

I just track my services with a basic trello board

[echo basalt]

I'd need to pay big for refunds and chargebacks

[tender shard]

speaking about trello...

https://todo.jeff-media.com/b/YwRCfv5bf3THiqdNr/angelchest

[echo basalt]

as a seller, I can issue a refund and it will even refund the paypal tax

[compact haven]

do you just archive and not put in Delivered

or is that in like due-payment status

[echo basalt]

I put it in delivered until the customer has paid and doesn't want any changes

[compact haven]

ah ok

[echo basalt]

Once the customer moves on with the project, I archive it

It's basically past any testing phase

[tender shard]

🥲

[echo basalt]

I also make a single card per project instead of doing like alex and putting a card per feature

[compact haven]

sinec you have several projects you're working on, do you like stop after a few hours, take a break & start working on something else?

[echo basalt]

the project can have a feature of checklist

[echo basalt]

it kinda depends

[carmine nacelle]

I come yet again with a stupid question

[echo basalt]

I work on what I feel like working on the moment

[river oracle]

Scarry BEes!

[echo basalt]

prioritizing tasks with sooner deadlines

[carmine nacelle]

I had this working before but I forgot how.

            Beehive beehive = (Beehive) block.getState();
            PersistentDataContainer container = beehive.getPersistentDataContainer();

            List<UUID> currentStoredUUIDS = pdcManager.getStoredBeeUUIDS(container);

            currentStoredUUIDS.add(beeEnteredHive.getUniqueId());
            pdcManager.storeBeeUUIDs(container, currentStoredUUIDS);

            beehive.update(true);

[echo basalt]

he forgor

[carmine nacelle]

This isnt actually updating the pdc of the block in the physical world

[river oracle]

look in file history

[carmine nacelle]

    public void storeBeeUUIDs(PersistentDataContainer container, List<UUID> beeUUIDs) {
        NamespacedKey beeUUIDKey = new NamespacedKey(cadiaBees, "stored-bee-uuids");
        container.set(beeUUIDKey, PersistentDataType.STRING, Arrays.toString(beeUUIDs.toArray()).replace("[", "").replace("]", ""));
    }

[river oracle]

if you had it working previously check your file history for ap revious version

iirc intellij has that

even vsc has that so I highly doubt you would be unable to access such info

[tender shard]

erm why why why are you replacing the [ ] things

[carmine nacelle]

because i want it to be stored like uuid,uuid instead of [uuid,uuid]

[river oracle]

just makes it looks better for the end user

presumably

[compact haven]

there is no end user

this is the PDC

[river oracle]

oh

[tender shard]

please take a look at this - https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/more-persistent-data-types-collections-maps-and-arrays-for-pdc.520677/

[river oracle]

then why tf bother

[compact haven]

alex being shameless

[river oracle]

shameless plug

[carmine nacelle]

What exactly am I looking for here

[tender shard]

well if I see someone storing UUID arrays and then manually removing the [, ] part, it's safe to assume that I'll send my library instead lol

[river oracle]

it allows you to store more data types

e.g. arrays other misk objects etc

that way you don't have to do string fuckery

[tender shard]

you're looking at something that allows you to store a list or array of UUIDs without needing to parse them in some weird, manual way

[river oracle]

ahha I beat you too it

[carmine nacelle]

ughhhh...

[tender shard]

true lol

[carmine nacelle]

I dont like using tons of extra libraries.. 😩

[tender shard]

well ofc you don't have to

but it's only like 20kb

[river oracle]

I don't care how many libraries I have as long as I actually use most of what it adds lol

[compact haven]

^ that's why i dont like monolithic libraries

like set to do 1 thing for me, and do it well

[tender shard]

damn wtf, why is it 223 kb

OOOOH

[river oracle]

Funnily enough I actually don't have one put together lib I use in my projects I have 5 smaller ones lol

[tender shard]

THATS THE JAVADOCS

[river oracle]

bakka

[tender shard]

yeah it's 36kb in total

[compact haven]

I stopped hosting nexus

[river oracle]

who do you buy your server from mfnalex

[compact haven]

I'm hosting reposilite now

[echo basalt]

man even has his own maven repo

[compact haven]

it looks so bae https://maven.dominick.sh

[tender shard]

I got dedicated servers at hetzner

[echo basalt]

I don't want to pay monthly costs

[river oracle]

hmm I was thinking about that except the whole I'm not able to grab one in the US type thing

[echo basalt]

so I don't see the need for servers and all that enthusiast stuff

[compact haven]

what the fuck

why is my cert not valid

[tender shard]

hetzner doesnt have dedicated in the US yet, but they'll have them soon

[carmine nacelle]

Got an example of how I should do this with the library @tender shard ?

I see the ones on github but

[buoyant viper]

nice

[river oracle]

bruh even my server has certs lol

[river oracle]

https://miles.sh/

[echo basalt]

11 months and already messing with nms sheesh

[river oracle]

I've yet to setup most of it tbh lol I've been to busy

[echo basalt]

I feel like I wasted my time now

[river oracle]

Its like 13 now I made this 2 months ago

[tender shard]

DataType.asArray(DataType.UUID)

[river oracle]

I've just not had time to update

[echo basalt]

😭

[buoyant viper]

https://winnpixie.xyz letsencrypt ssl 💪

[echo basalt]

I've been making plugins for 5-6 years and messing with code for about 11 years now

and I'm still trash

[buoyant viper]

dont ask why it redirects

[river oracle]

hmm well my code isn't exceedingly good I've yet to learn to properly incorporate things like consumers and such but I got most other concepts down

[tender shard]

e.g. like this

[carmine nacelle]

But for setting

[river oracle]

I've yet to touch bytecode as well, but I plan to do that and contribute to optic's libs

[tender shard]

but ofc you'd use asArray for arrays, and DataType.UUID instead of DataType.ITEM_STACK

[carmine nacelle]

container.set(beeUUIDKey, DataType.asArrayList(DataType.UUID, beeUUIDs));

[compact haven]

all right k3s didnt properly unapply something

back up now <3 https://maven.dominick.sh/#/

[tender shard]

oh no, you did it wrong . the DataType.asArrayList(...) only takes the datatype, not the actual contents

so beeUUIDs should be outside of the ) bracket

container.set(beeUUIDKey, DataType.asList(DataType.UUID), beeUUIDs);

[carmine nacelle]

thats a List<UUID> btw

[tender shard]

like this

[compact haven]

oh

@river oracle you're miles

[tender shard]

yes

[compact haven]

I was so confused why you linked some random site

[river oracle]

yes

[compact haven]

I thought it was because of the .sh domain

[river oracle]

thats my site

[carmine nacelle]

@tender shard

I am confusion

[river oracle]

tbf to you I was put in an immediate position to succeed. My friend has known java for 7 years and taught me the ropes and was there for me every step of the way. Thats a huge head start

[tender shard]

use asList, not asArrayList

[carmine nacelle]

bet

[echo basalt]

lol imagine being a developer and having friends that know more than you

[compact haven]

rofl

[river oracle]

He was the one that got me into scripting and such without him I'd still be more fascinated learning about human psychology

[compact haven]

I was lucky to know people who were better than be at java as well to start, but past a certain point I just stopped asking them (fell out of touch)

[carmine nacelle]

So, .... this to check if it has it?

if(container.has(beeUUIDKey, DataType.UUID)) {

@tender shard

[compact haven]

now I've got a lovely community @Dyescape that teaches me kubernetes and microservice architecture

it's lovely

[carmine nacelle]

even though its an array of it

[tender shard]

No. You also need DataType.asList(DataType.UUID) there

[carmine nacelle]

or this if(container.has(beeUUIDKey, DataType.asList(DataType.UUID))) {

bet

[tender shard]

yep.

this one

[carmine nacelle]

wow

[buoyant viper]

the people i taught programming ended up becoming better devs than me lolz

[carmine nacelle]

this is almost as easy as my ex

[tender shard]

lol

my exes were kinda hard to deal with

or maybe it was my fault

idk lol

[compact haven]

one gave you 2 STD's

[tender shard]

that wasnt my ex

[carmine nacelle]

👀

[compact haven]

well

close enough

[tender shard]

that was just a dude I messed around with

we never were together

[carmine nacelle]

😐

[echo basalt]

never had any exes

because I've been coding since I was young as shit

[carmine nacelle]

me too, at 12

[echo basalt]

me since I was like 6

[tender shard]

damn I still have his instagram

[echo basalt]

I mean

I was the ladiesman in 3rd grade

[river oracle]

I made the mistake of denying the only girl to ask me out before I started coding and watching anime

[carmine nacelle]

started coding bukkit stuff at 12

[echo basalt]

I've had 1 girl ask me out

[carmine nacelle]

and I still suck ass at 22 😭

[echo basalt]

she was special needs and I didn't like her

[tender shard]

lol

[echo basalt]

it really felt like she was being pressured

but yeah

[compact haven]

I started coding early as well

[tender shard]

so did you go out with her, or not

[echo basalt]

not really no

[carmine nacelle]

im gonna bookmark that repo 👀

BROOO

THE FIRST PIC

[tender shard]

it doesnt get any better

[buoyant viper]

u let That hit u?

[echo basalt]

he looks sinister

[tender shard]

DONT ASK ME WHY; IDK

[tender shard]

he is

maybe imma delete that link

didnt want to publicly shame him lol

[compact haven]

lol

[carmine nacelle]

too late

[echo basalt]

creepy mf

[tender shard]

well well well

this dude was a fucking jerk

[echo basalt]

who could've guessed

[tender shard]

he was cute though 😢

[echo basalt]

oh hell naw

[river oracle]

no

[tender shard]

well instagram is different from real life

[river oracle]

his instagram makes him look ugly

[tender shard]

also y'all can't participate anyway unless you're into dudes

[carmine nacelle]

bro im straight and that dude is decent looking tf

[echo basalt]

I call myself ugly but I'm happy I look nowhere near as bad as that guy

[tender shard]

YEAH

[river oracle]

Thats why I can fucking participate

[tender shard]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[tender shard]

haha

[river oracle]

he looks like he'd be a dick

[tender shard]

yeah true

anyway let's stop stalking him haha

it was a mistake to send that link lmao

[compact haven]

rofl

[river oracle]

xD

[carmine nacelle]

Why is it so frickin hard to update a block's pdc

like bruh..

[compact haven]

we can talk about your commissions

[tender shard]

it actually isn't

print out the value you get in console

[compact haven]

if u deny it and they say "know anyone else" you've got someone in mind 😉

[river oracle]

we can talk about you paying me money

[carmine nacelle]

   Beehive beehive = (Beehive) block.getState();
            PersistentDataContainer container = beehive.getPersistentDataContainer();

            List<UUID> currentStoredUUIDS = pdcManager.getStoredBeeUUIDS(container);

            currentStoredUUIDS.add(beeEnteredHive.getUniqueId());
            pdcManager.storeBeeUUIDs(container, currentStoredUUIDS);

            beehive.update(true);

[quaint mantle]

How would I minus 1 from an int?

I have a countdown that is counting down but it's stuck on 15 so it keeps saying "15 seconds left". So I want to minus one from countdownTimer after it says that.

[carmine nacelle]

It just isnt saving anything

its null

[river oracle]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[echo basalt]

--

[tender shard]

what exactly is null?

[river oracle]

easiest learn java of my life

[echo basalt]

google shit before asking here

[compact haven]

lmfao

[tender shard]

wtf

[carmine nacelle]

The key's value or key itself I guess

[echo basalt]

asking here should be last resort

[carmine nacelle]

its just not saving

[quaint mantle]

Alright sorry

[compact haven]

that's something that's kept me afloat, learning to google

[echo basalt]

my bricklayer uncle mf decided to pull up at my house at 7:30am wtf

[tender shard]

block's PDCs are very weird. I'd suggest you to use my CustomBlockData lib to save information in blocks instead

[carmine nacelle]

bro

[tender shard]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-block-data-persistentdatacontainer-for-blocks.512422/

[carmine nacelle]

LMAO

[river oracle]

the most important learning resources projects and google

[tender shard]

I've went through the same shit that you are doing, right now lol

that's why I made those libs lol

[carmine nacelle]

but how the fuck

do u make something not possible, possible

[river oracle]

I use your libs on the server I work for xD

[tender shard]

by abusing the chunk's PDC instead

as explained on spigot:

lol don't call me daddy

rather, call me Stepsister

[compact haven]

ah that's interesting

oh

[carmine nacelle]

hol up

[compact haven]

I meant the chunk PDC abuse

not the name

[carmine nacelle]

uh huh

[compact haven]

I call alex by bae only

[tender shard]

yeah I simply map every block to their "in chunk" position, and then use the chunk's PDC

[carmine nacelle]

but like

[compact haven]

mm it's very neat bae

[carmine nacelle]

how do you set it back to the block tho

[tender shard]

I had this idea in a dream

[tender shard]

no need to

[carmine nacelle]

wtf

[tender shard]

the lib does that automatically

[carmine nacelle]

wizard?

[compact haven]

ah bae

[tender shard]

it calls this method everytime the PDC is changed

[compact haven]

why is nexus not in a sub domain

[carmine nacelle]

i think i love you

[tender shard]

mine? because why would it

[compact haven]

:(

[tender shard]

idk why

[compact haven]

it's an independent app

[carmine nacelle]

anyone here listen to edm?

[tender shard]

sure

[carmine nacelle]

u know modestep?

[echo basalt]

sometimes

[tender shard]

yes but I gotta run everything through a reverse proxy anyway

[compact haven]

yes

but what if you move nexus to a different machine in the future

now you cant

[tender shard]

I can

[compact haven]

no u cant

[tender shard]

everything I run is in its own container or VM anyway

the "web" thing is just a proxy to forward to the docker VM

[compact haven]

hub.jeff-media will point to server1 which is directed to the VM in that server

[tender shard]

no

[compact haven]

but what if u have nexus off of the server of your hub

[carmine nacelle]

@tender shard

            PersistentDataContainer container = new CustomBlockData(block, cadiaBees);

            List<UUID> currentStoredUUIDS = pdcManager.getStoredBeeUUIDS(container);

            currentStoredUUIDS.add(beeEnteredHive.getUniqueId());
            pdcManager.storeBeeUUIDs(container, currentStoredUUIDS);

So is this all id need then?

[tender shard]

it is on another server

[compact haven]

wat

[tender shard]

yeah that loks good

[compact haven]

you only have 1 dedi

do you have multiple IPv4 for that dedi

[carmine nacelle]

this is

    public void storeBeeUUIDs(PersistentDataContainer container, List<UUID> beeUUIDs) {
        NamespacedKey beeUUIDKey = new NamespacedKey(cadiaBees, "stored-bee-uuids");
        container.set(beeUUIDKey, DataType.asList(DataType.UUID), beeUUIDs);
    }

my storeBeeUUIDs btw

it doesnt return anything idk if that matters.

[compact haven]

regardless, you still have you hub and nexus under hub.jeff-media.com

[tender shard]

no I have several

[compact haven]

so like if you want to move nexus off of that dedi, u cant without moving the other hub.jeff-media stuff

[compact haven]

what

[tender shard]

the nexus thing runs on 10.0.0.104:8002

[buoyant viper]

not even nginx 🙄

[compact haven]

well yes you're capable of proxying it from server1

but why

why not just have nexus.jeff-media.com point to server2 directly

[tender shard]

because I don't wanna handle getting SSL certificates on 10 different servers

[compact haven]

like this is my current setup

[tender shard]

well I could do that, but why? I got the reverse running anyway

[compact haven]

well 🤷‍♂️

then you cant scale

because traffic still going through server1

[tender shard]

it has to, anyway

[compact haven]

heh

[tender shard]

everything runs through the reverse proxy so I can do SSL offloading or however it's called in one place

I don't want 10 different servers to need to get new LE certificates every 3 months

[compact haven]

well that's the benefit of load balancers but, you could also just rsync the cert directory

[tender shard]

I could, but then the VM that runs cerbot needs root access to the other servers

[buoyant viper]

why is smp not just cnamed? i originally had it on a diff server

[carmine nacelle]

What's the latest version of maven shade?

[tender shard]

3.3.1

or 3.3.0?

I always use 3.3.0

[carmine nacelle]

ok thx stepsister

[compact haven]

I have my cert under root:ssl-xxx.tld so they could just have an erroneous user in my case

[tender shard]

np stepbro ❤️

[buoyant viper]

https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/

3.3.0

[tender shard]

ah okay then 3.3.1-SNAPSHOT is the "latest"

[river oracle]

I use maven shade 3.2.3 damn I'm old timer

[tender shard]

3.2 doesn't support java 17

[river oracle]

whut

how

[tender shard]

it works fine with java 17, buuuuut

you cannot shade dependencies that use java 17

[compact haven]

heh

[river oracle]

hm

[compact haven]

ok well ima go back to bed

[tender shard]

so yeah, just use 3.3.0 and everything'll work fine

[compact haven]

gn peoples

[river oracle]

my shade setup has been working really well I really don't wanna change it :P

[tender shard]

but kotlin sucks

[compact haven]

yeah now im staying

[tender shard]

jk, have a good night ❤️

[compact haven]

nah jk lmao, ty alex, gn

[buoyant viper]

they hated jesus because he spoke the truth

[versed violet]

what's the difference between EntityPickupItemEvent and PlayerAttemptPickupItemEvent

[compact haven]

dont bring the liqour to bed tonight

[carmine nacelle]

3.3.0 not found

sadge

[buoyant viper]

Scala >

[tender shard]

WTF

is that new?

the Attempt event

[carmine nacelle]

            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-shade-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.3.0</version>
                <executions>
                    <!-- stuff here -->
                </executions>
            </plugin>

[tender shard]

never seen that

[versed violet]

i think its only on paper

[carmine nacelle]

Is this the wrong plugin lmao

[compact haven]

oh sorry just need to say

[buoyant viper]

its a paper event yeah

[compact haven]

that's something that infuriates me with maven

sometimes official apache plugins

just like disappear from maven central

and I can't import them

or use certain versions that should exist

it's so weird

[carmine nacelle]

looks like the latest it can find is 3.2.4

kinda cringe

[versed violet]

so does anybody know?

[compact haven]

this is exactly what I'm talking about

3.3.0 definitely exists

but you can't import it

[buoyant viper]

swear to god cloudflares security check page just gets worse and worse

[desert frigate]

cause ur profile is Jeff but ur discord name is Alex so

[compact haven]

his name is alex

the Jeff Media is erroneous

no clue why he chose it

[carmine nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/my-name-is-jeff-jeff-jump-street-channing-tatum-gif-21914494

REEEE

[buoyant viper]

hannah-media.com when

[tender shard]

aaah yes

[carmine nacelle]

@tender shard getting a classnotfound for customblockdata

[tender shard]

actually

[tender shard]

this ^ is the reason why my company is named JEFF haha

[carmine nacelle]

I even did this

            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-shade-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.2.4</version>
                <executions>
                    <!-- stuff here -->
                </executions>
                <configuration>
                    <relocations>
                        <relocation>
                            <pattern>com.jeff_media.customblockdata</pattern>
                            <shadedPattern>YOUR.PACKAGE.customblockdata</shadedPattern>
                        </relocation>
                    </relocations>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>

[tender shard]

okay so, yes, you need this. and you need to change "YOUR.PACKAGE" to your actual package name

[winter scarab]

how much memory do persistent data containers take up? could it be a worry if, say 50 entities are storing 2 pieces of data

[carmine nacelle]

oh...

LMAO

[tender shard]

no problem at all

[winter scarab]

is there a point i should worry?

[compact haven]

no

[carmine nacelle]

didnt even notice that...

[tender shard]

the PDC takes exactly as much space as storing the information in actual NBT would do

[winter scarab]

so practically nothing

[compact haven]

yes

[tender shard]

yeah well, it takes as much space as the actual data has

[winter scarab]

well a uuid

so small

[compact haven]

16 bytes

[tender shard]

a UUID is 2 longs

[compact haven]

plus the name maybe 10 bytes

[tender shard]

so, nothing to worry about, at all

[compact haven]

so 26 whopping bytes

[winter scarab]

got it thanks

[tender shard]

np

unless you wanna store megabytes of data, it's not a problem at all

[winter scarab]

yeah not megabytes

[tender shard]

a boolean here and there, maybe a spicy string, and a chicken, np lol

sorry I'm drunk

[winter scarab]

🥸

[carmine nacelle]

 <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-shade-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.2.4</version>
                <executions>
                    <!-- stuff here -->
                </executions>
                <configuration>
                    <relocations>
                        <relocation>
                            <pattern>com.jeff_media.customblockdata</pattern>
                            <shadedPattern>com.squallz.customblockdata</shadedPattern>
                        </relocation>
                    </relocations>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>

so uh..same error lol

[river oracle]

When are we going to see you put a player in a player pdc

[tender shard]

how do you compile?

[lost matrix]

utf-8 char * 16 is a bit more than 10 bytes 😅

[carmine nacelle]

I click "install"

😂

[tender shard]

already possible with my MorePersistentDataTypes library

[carmine nacelle]

WHAT

[tender shard]

that's correct, and it should work

[compact haven]

what

oh

[tender shard]

?paste the full stacktrace pls

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[compact haven]

how did I fuck that up

[river oracle]

your stupid

[carmine nacelle]

wait, so I can literally be in your walls?

[compact haven]

thank you for correcting me

[compact haven]

96 bytes* ahem

[carmine nacelle]

what about my stupid?

🤓

[river oracle]

the irony is I did the wrong you're

[tender shard]

send the full stacktrace pls

[carmine nacelle]

hold on i gotta get it again

[river oracle]

I wasn't talking to you :( I'm sorry if i hurt you

[tender shard]

I think it's time to ping @noble lantern now

[river oracle]

NO

FUCK goodbye

[tender shard]

too laaaate

[river oracle]

I might see leroy jenkins if he shows up and that mfing thing scares me

[carmine nacelle]

@tender shard https://hastebin.com/qojufefolo.properties

[lost matrix]

Shouldnt burchard be asleep at this time?

[tender shard]

hm weird. Please pate your full pom.xml

[carmine nacelle]

oh boy

[buoyant viper]

a small price to pay for 16 bytes

[tender shard]

isnt he murican?

[carmine nacelle]

ok here @tender shard https://hastebin.com/fotesalulo.xml

enjoy

[tender shard]

very tasty pom

[carmine nacelle]

omg

hol up

i did it wrong

[tender shard]

you forgot the <executions> part in the maven-shade-plugin

[buoyant viper]

its 3am

[tender shard]

pacific time?

[carmine nacelle]

wait

[lost matrix]

I thought so. So its like monday 1 am or something for him

[tender shard]

or eastern?

[carmine nacelle]

what do I put in there?

[buoyant viper]

eastern

west coast itd be like 11pm rn

[tender shard]

that's a time where I expect burchard to be awake

[lost matrix]

XD

[compact haven]

anyways I meant if the uuid was stored as 2 longs or as a byte array, would be 16 bytes of data; then 10 utf8 characters would be 10 (now 80) so 26 bytes (96 bytes*)

[tender shard]

I mean, I woke up at 5 am today

[compact haven]

ok now I’m leaving bye

[carmine nacelle]

what do I need to put in shade executions?

[tender shard]

yeah but you also gotta store the NamespacedKey, which is a string

[tender shard]

Pls just read the README of my CustomBlockData thing 🥲

[compact haven]

which has overhead

[carmine nacelle]

I-

[compact haven]

don’t worry about it

negligible bytes

[tender shard]

oh wait

it's not explained there

my bad

[carmine nacelle]

yeahhh

[tender shard]

Im sorry, I expected people to know this stuff already, which is a stupid assumption

because 90% of people don't know how it works, fair enough

1 min pls

[carmine nacelle]

nah i dont dive deep into everything unless i have to

[tender shard]

you need this in your <plugin> thing

                <executions>
                    <execution>
                        <phase>package</phase>
                        <goals>
                            <goal>shade</goal>
                        </goals>
                    </execution>
                </executions>

after you added this, run "clean", then "install" or "package" again

then it should hopefully work

[carmine nacelle]

Unsupported class file major version 61

[tender shard]

ah yeah

that's because your shade is too old for your current java version

1 sec

in line 98 of your pom

change "3.2.4" to "3.3.0"

[carmine nacelle]

bro wtf it wasnt finding 3.3 earlier but now it is?? 💀

[tender shard]

no, ealier you tried to use 3.3.1

just set it to 3.3.0 and it should work :3

[carmine nacelle]

uh oh stinky

So uh

[tender shard]

okay what's the problem now? 😄

[carmine nacelle]

https://hastebin.com/arukozefex.apache

waittt

wuddafuq

[tender shard]

I see. you shaded stuff you don't wanna shade

please send your updated pom again

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[carmine nacelle]

sounds about right

should just have to set the scope of my other plugin to provided

[tender shard]

also, what's CadiaBees line 103 ?

[tender shard]

yep

you should have EVERY dependency as "provided" unless you are sure you wanna shade it

e.g. MorePersistantDataTypes and CustomBlockData should be <scope>compile

but basically everything else should be <scope>provided

[carmine nacelle]

I didnt have the shade plugin before so that issue didnt come up

[tender shard]

exactly

[carmine nacelle]

whats the diff between shade and compile?

[tender shard]

there is no "shade" scope

you mean the difference between "provided" and "compile", right?

[carmine nacelle]

so compile is shade

[river oracle]

Compile just means that's when the dependency is needed essentially

[tender shard]

compile basically means "shade it", yes

[carmine nacelle]

Well I know provided means its like.. already expected to be there in a jar or something right

like we provide it alrdy..

[tender shard]

"provided" = We don't need to shade. The jar that runs spigot provides this already (e.g. another plugin)
"compile" = We actually put this into our own .jar when compiling.

[carmine nacelle]

alright cool

[tender shard]

so, if you access any other plugins, in 99% of times you make it "provided". E.g. You wanna ask WorldGuard "Is there any region at location X,Y,Z?" Then we assume that the server runs WorldGuard anyway, so it's "provided"

However, my CustomBlockData library, you wanna shade that, because we cannot assume that it's already there anyway - you gotta "compile" it into your own plugin

[carmine nacelle]

gotcha

thx for the explanation

[tender shard]

np! It's a bit confusing because gradle uses similar terms that mean a whole different thing

in gradle, what maven calls "provided" is called "compileOnly", and what maven calls "compile", is called "implementation"

[carmine nacelle]

why cant they all just use the same terms reee

[tender shard]

yeah agree

idk

the gradle devs are a bit weird in general lol

[buoyant viper]

graldes a bit groovy if u ask me

[severe oak]

who uses gradle anways

[tender shard]

https://discuss.gradle.org/t/is-it-recommended-to-use-compileonly-over-implementation-if-another-module-use-implementation-already/26699
they for example think that "using provided scope" is bad design

which is kinda bullshit if you ask me, but noone asked, thank god haha

[tender shard]

erm well

papermc for example does

[severe oak]

shameful

[tender shard]

get out!

gradle is perfectly fine. it's basically just the answer to questions noone has ever asked

[carmine nacelle]

why do bees have to be so damn complex

[tender shard]

e.g. if you think "I need some volatile environment to build my stuff", then maybe you just did something wrong

[ornate patio]

should I make a custom player name library

[carmine nacelle]

like a bee will just RANDOMLY DECIDE TO CHANGE HIVES

[ornate patio]

a simple one to just change the text above players

[buoyant viper]

whats all the buzz about?

[tender shard]

they make our whole eco system work

[carmine nacelle]

fuck em

[tender shard]

for real, hannah

[buoyant viper]

DO NOT FUCK THE BEES

[tender shard]

fuck off

haha

[chrome beacon]

You can just write your own bee goals

[tender shard]

I am bee myself

[carmine nacelle]

i still havent figured out how to even see what ones its running

goals are complex man.

[chrome beacon]

I've done modding before so I know how to make my own goals for mobs

Anyways I'm at my PC now so I can help you

[tender shard]

if you wanna add your own goal, then use a very low priority (e.g. Integer.MIN_VALUE) and decide through canUse() whether it runs or not

[carmine nacelle]

like what triggers them to move hives

[chrome beacon]

Let me check what goals the bee has

[carmine nacelle]

I can set my bee's hive location, right

then it goes and dances around the flower

[tender shard]

I think I'm CraftBeeSexual

[carmine nacelle]

and doesnt go back to its hive

so I punch it which I have a debug on to broadcast its hive X

and it says its hive is null

BITCH I SET IT WHEN IT SPAWNED

[tender shard]

hm

that is weird

are you 100% sure that the location you use for setHive actually has a hive?

[chrome beacon]

remainingCooldownBeforeLocatingNewHive

That's a variable

[tender shard]

whut

wtf is that for

[carmine nacelle]

ok Integer.MaxValue * Integer.MaxValue

💀

[chrome beacon]

ok nvm

It will only use that if it doesn't have a hive

It will drop the bee hive if it goes further than 32 blocks away

So you need to make sure it doesn't do that

[carmine nacelle]

ok so i need to make sure it doesnt go more than 32 blocks away.

but how

[ornate patio]

L e a s h

[carmine nacelle]

other than listening to its move event and checking if its distance is 31, then teleport it back lmao

[tender shard]

story of my life

[carmine nacelle]

heh

[tender shard]

another fun fact: this always prints -2

[carmine nacelle]

tf

[chrome beacon]

    protected PathNavigation createNavigation(Level world) {
        FlyingPathNavigation navigationflying = new FlyingPathNavigation(this, world) {
            public boolean isStableDestination(BlockPos blockposition) {
                return !this.level.getBlockState(blockposition.below()).isAir();
            }

            public void tick() {
                if (!Bee.this.beePollinateGoal.isPollinating()) {
                    super.tick();
                }

            }
        };
        navigationflying.setCanOpenDoors(false);
        navigationflying.setCanFloat(false);
        navigationflying.setCanPassDoors(true);
        return navigationflying;
    }

Override this method and put a distance check in that isStableDestination

[carmine nacelle]

Is that stock mc code..?

[chrome beacon]

Yes

[tender shard]

yes

that's from the NMS bee class

[chrome beacon]

Actually just use isTooFarAway(blockposition)

[carmine nacelle]

ok I added it to my custom class and set it to override

[chrome beacon]

and add that to the if check

[carmine nacelle]

            public void tick() {
                if (!Bee.this.beePollinateGoal.isPollinating()) {
                    super.tick();
                }

            }

this if...?

[tender shard]

another fun fact: the @Override annotation is basically totally useless, it's only there are reminder to yourself "okay this method exists in a super class too", but it doesnt actually do anything

[carmine nacelle]

also, 'net.minecraft.world.entity.animal.Bee' is not an enclosing class

[ornate patio]

well it’s still not useless if it still has a purpose

[chrome beacon]

That's to prevent it from flying away when pollinating a flower

[tender shard]

so what is it?

[carmine nacelle]

ah..

[ornate patio]

to remind yourself just like you said

[carmine nacelle]

bruh

[tender shard]

your class does extend Bee, doesnt it?

[carmine nacelle]

imagine if bees could open doors

that would be terrifying

[tender shard]

lol

[carmine nacelle]

yes

[severe oak]

make them

[tender shard]

there's a goal for that already

[carmine nacelle]

import org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R1.entity.CraftBee;
import net.minecraft.world.entity.animal.Bee;

my imports

[ornate patio]

it also makes your IDE give a warning if the method doesn’t override anything which can be helpful

[tender shard]

add this to the bee to make them able to open doors

[carmine nacelle]

LMAO

[tender shard]

yeah, that's true

[severe oak]

For once in my life, my code works on the first try

[tender shard]

I just wanted to say, it doesn't "actually" do anything. but yeah, it throws errors and make your code not compile if you try to "@Override" something that a super class doesn't declare, that's true

[carmine nacelle]

So I wonder why its saying 'net.minecraft.world.entity.animal.Bee' is not an enclosing class

its

using the wrong import huh

[tender shard]

?paste your custom bee class

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[ornate patio]

it just doesn’t do anything at runtime is what you mean

[tender shard]

yep

[carmine nacelle]

oh god

[chrome beacon]

Are you extending CraftBee instead of NMS bee

[carmine nacelle]

https://hastebin.com/kozukehina.kotlin

incoming judgement

some stuff isnt even used im gonna remove it

[tender shard]

you are not extending the vanilla / NMS Bee class

[carmine nacelle]

fuck me

[tender shard]

how old are you?

[carmine nacelle]

22

[tender shard]

okay then maybe I would

anyway

[carmine nacelle]

LMAO

[ornate patio]

👀

[tender shard]

do you got any class called "bee" in the same package

[carmine nacelle]

I do not

[tender shard]

hmmm

I wonder, because

[carmine nacelle]

these are my options

[tender shard]

it says "extends Bee", but you don't even import any "Bee" class

[chrome beacon]

They do

[tender shard]

oooh

yeah

[severe oak]

👁️👄 👁️

[tender shard]

I am blind

sorry

then I have no clue what the fucking problem is, lol

[carmine nacelle]

not an enclosing class... 🤔

[tender shard]

send the full stacktrace again pls

[carmine nacelle]

I cant even compile it

[tender shard]

hmmm

then send the full compiler error pls

[carmine nacelle]

    protected PathNavigation createNavigation(Level world) {
        FlyingPathNavigation navigationflying = new FlyingPathNavigation(this, world) {
            public boolean isStableDestination(BlockPos blockposition) {
                return !this.level.getBlockState(blockposition.below()).isAir();
            }

            public void tick() {
                if (!Bee.this.beePollinateGoal.isPollinating()) {
                    super.tick();
                }

            }
        };
        navigationflying.setCanOpenDoors(false);
        navigationflying.setCanFloat(false);
        navigationflying.setCanPassDoors(true);
        return navigationflying;
    }

its erroring on the "!Bee.this"

[chrome beacon]

Yeah the problem is the beePollinateGoal

[carmine nacelle]

not an enclosing class: net.minecraft.world.entity.animal.Bee

thats it

[chrome beacon]

It has no access modifier so you can't access it

[carmine nacelle]

im suing

this is a pain in the beehind

[tender shard]

but stuff without modifiers should be accessible by extending classes, no?

[chrome beacon]

No

[carmine nacelle]

if I click on the "isPollinating" it jumps to the bee class

so it knows it exists

[chrome beacon]

only if it's a subclass in the same package

[carmine nacelle]

its just trolling me

[tender shard]

oh yeah

the fucking package

right

just for fun, try to change your CustomBee's package name to net.minecraft.world.entity.animal

does it compile now?

[carmine nacelle]

Package name 'net.minecraft.world.entity.animal' does not correspond to the file path 'com.squallz.cadiabees.objects'

[tender shard]

yeah you also gotta "move" the file

[carmine nacelle]

nope still the same error

[chrome beacon]

I think you need to use reflection here

[tender shard]

huh that is very weird then

[carmine nacelle]

sigh

[tender shard]

yeah that will definitely work

[carmine nacelle]

its 3:25 am i gotta be up for work at 7

reflection sounds like aids

[tender shard]

something like this

Method method = Bee.class.getDeclaredMethod("theMethodYouWannaInvoke");
method.invoke(this, parameters....);

[carmine nacelle]

ive avoided it like the plague for years

[tender shard]

reflection is not AIDS

reflection is fine 😄

[carmine nacelle]

ok, herpaghonnasiphiliritus

[tender shard]

unless you abuse it for stuff that doesn't actually require it

[carmine nacelle]

Where would this go?

[severe oak]

after further examination, shits fucked and only like 20% of my changes worked

[tender shard]

in the place where you currently try to use Bee.this.theMethodYouWannaInvoke()

[tender shard]

haha

relatable

[carmine nacelle]

So like..

            public void tick() {
                Method method = null;
                try {
                    method = Bee.class.getDeclaredMethod("isPollinating");

                    if (!method) {
                        super.tick();
                    }
                } catch (NoSuchMethodException e) {
                    e.printStackTrace();
                }

            }
```?

[severe oak]

All I wanted was for my objects to convert to mongodb documents dynamically 😦

[tender shard]

Nooo

[carmine nacelle]

kekw

fuck

[chrome beacon]

    @Override
    protected PathNavigation createNavigation(Level world) {
        final PathNavigation vanillaNav = super.createNavigation(world);
        FlyingPathNavigation navigationflying = new FlyingPathNavigation(this, world) {
            public boolean isStableDestination(BlockPos blockposition) {
                return vanillaNav.isStableDestination(blockposition) && blockposition.closerThan(blockposition, 32);
            }

            public void tick() {
                vanillaNav.tick();
            }
        };
        navigationflying.setCanOpenDoors(false);
        navigationflying.setCanFloat(false);
        navigationflying.setCanPassDoors(true);
        return navigationflying;
    }

Try this @carmine nacelle

[tender shard]

you still gotta invoke the method

[severe oak]

code like this should never exist

 Document document = new Document();

        document.append("uuid", uuid.toString());
        document.append("name", name);
        document.append("category", category);
        document.append("permissions", permissions);

        return document;

[tender shard]

you only "get" the method, but you never "invoke" it

[carmine nacelle]

Well it lets me compile that..

[ivory sleet]

Why?

[buoyant viper]

not even using methodhandles smh

[ivory sleet]

That looks like your everyday factory method

[tender shard]

yeah, nothing wrong wth that

[carmine nacelle]

So just like that, it should never travel out of range now?

[severe oak]

because as you add more properties it bloats

[ivory sleet]

So?

[severe oak]

I just don't like it

[chrome beacon]

I believe so

[tender shard]

and what's your suggestion to fix this?

[ivory sleet]

Thats not a good reason for it to not exist

[carmine nacelle]

this feels illegal

[chrome beacon]

Well it can still be pushed too far away

[ivory sleet]

Its called function abstraction in a more enterprisy way, every line in a function should be at the same level of abstraction

[carmine nacelle]

it got pollen and now its stuck here

[ivory sleet]

A factory method encapsulates and abstracts the need to think about instantiation

[severe oak]

this is my current fix

static Document toDocument(Object instance) {
        Document doc = new Document();

        try {
            for (Field prop : instance.getClass().getDeclaredFields()) {
                prop.setAccessible(true);

                Object value = prop.get(instance);

                if(value instanceof UUID)value = value.toString();
                if(value instanceof Documentable)value = ((Documentable) value).asDocument();
                if(value instanceof Listable)value = ((Listable) value).asList();

                doc.put(prop.getName(), value);
            }
        }catch (Exception exception) { exception.printStackTrace(); }

        return doc;
    }

[carmine nacelle]

uh oh

weve turned my bees into vegetables

[ivory sleet]

That function is impolite to the reader as it both violates the fundamental rule of function abstraction and the fact that its quite huge

But well Ig

[tender shard]

and you actually think that is better, becauuuuuse ... ?

[severe oak]

for some of my classes, yes. It has a lot of flaws

[carmine nacelle]

@chrome beacon It completely breaks once it finishes pollinating

[ivory sleet]

Feels like an unnecessary use of reflection unless you’re trying to do some annotation based pojo or bean populating

[carmine nacelle]

it like doesnt know what to do

[buoyant viper]

yeah let me just use reflection when it is highly unnecessary

[carmine nacelle]

I think because we got rid of the pollinating part?

            public void tick() {
                if (!Bee.this.beePollinateGoal.isPollinating()) {
                    super.tick();
                }

            }

[chrome beacon]

vanillaNav.tick();

This should call that method

Wrong reply

but yeah

[carmine nacelle]

hmm.

yeah it pollinates and floats in place forever

oh well ill worry about it more tomorrow

thanks guys

[severe oak]

It really is. I'm most likely going to remove this but I'm only attempting at it because its a nuisance to change that function every time I add a property or modify a property.

[ivory sleet]

Yeah dw dw, I was just nitpicking

Generally speaking that function is fine or well probably more than fine if you ask someone at random

[echo basalt]

I made a system to convert an object to a Map<String, Object>

then serialize all of that data to any database I want

sql, mongo

amazon s3

flat file

it's bascally bootleg json serialization

[ivory sleet]

Sounds like bukkit ConfigurationSerializable

[echo basalt]

and for subclasses I flatten the map type deal

[severe oak]

thats pretty much the point of the function. I have an interface called Documentable and its to convert objects to Documents for mongo and convert Documents to objects

[echo basalt]

so

public class Whatever implements SkyblockSerializable {

  private UUID uuid;
  private Vector position;

}

would turn into

UUID|position@x|position@y|position@z on an sql table

the table also dynamically adjusts itself to any changes in the class

so it doesn't cause issues with upgrading the structure

I was storing stuff as pojo before but any changes would cause issues

[lost matrix]

Sounds like bootleg hibernate to me

[echo basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

only like 200 lines

maybe 300

but it worky with more than just sql

[ivory sleet]

I mean these automatic systems are probably nice in terms of time saving and taking away manual work, tho the issue it that some of the intent gets hidden away which to some extent can imply subsequent unit tests to break unexpectedly if someone change a class that relies on that module in terms of serialization, one reason I tend to avoid hibernate like frameworks, pros and cons just like everything else