help-server

[sullen basin]

you need to set online-mode to false on the servers btw

[lyric spire]

I did

[sullen basin]

kk

[tawny dust]

Then here is your problem

[lyric spire]

Every server has online-mode to false and connection-throttle to -1

and bungeecord: true

[tawny dust]

Have you set the port in server.properties

And are those ports available on your host

[sullen basin]

forced host pvp does not exist

in your setup

[lyric spire]

Yes

[sullen basin]

and you forced it

[tawny dust]

Yeah that shouldn't cause any issues

[sullen basin]

well if it's set to true

then yes

which explains this

[tawny dust]

Never had any issues with it

Force default server doesn't use the Force host setting

[sullen basin]

set force default server to false or force the hub

[tawny dust]

It uses the priority list which is correct

The issue here isn't the bungeecord

He can't connect to the server on it's own

[sullen basin]

Your're right with the forced host

[sullen basin]

well he can connect to bungeecord

If I got that right

and he's not supposed to connect to the servers outside of bungeecord

[tawny dust]

....

You're not seeing the problem here

If he cannot connect why should the bungee

[narrow flame]

Can i put 2 things on one database?

[dense void]

what are 2 things?

[narrow flame]

Ranks and discordsrv

[dense void]

as long as they have different databases/tables

sure

[narrow flame]

Do i need to ask the dev about it?

[dense void]

you should, probably, have an option to choose in what database the data will be stored

if not, i don't think that those 2 have the same database and the same tables

[lunar vortex]

What i have to put on the plugin of workdguard to avilite a player to press buttons in a protected área?

[vital jolt]

use flag

[lunar vortex]

What is the name of the flag i hace to use?

[vital jolt]

/rg flag <region> use deny

[lunar vortex]

Dont work xd

[vital jolt]

I think the flag is actually interact

https://worldguard.enginehub.org/en/latest/regions/flags/

[lunar vortex]

Ok later i try thanks

[west cloak]

hi can someone help me with my namecheap domain? it doesnt work

[tawny dust]

Sounds like you might want to ask them

[dense void]

what exactly doesnt work?

[west cloak]

i setuped all my A record srv records. but when i wait 10 to 15 mins. it doesnt work when i add mc. it connets me to some random server same with play. but with just myserver.net it says cant connect to the server

[lunar vortex]

Where i can send photo? I have a problema with wordguard plugin

[dense void]

https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9837/46/how-to-connect-a-domain-to-a-server-or-hosting/

[sullen basin]

do you still have this problem?

[west cloak]

Get verified and you can send pictures here

[west cloak]

Yes

[sullen basin]

you point your A record entry to your server ip?

[native cobalt]

Is there a way to update to 1.17 without losing the 1.16 world on your server? If so, how do you guys recommend about going about this?

[tawny dust]

Just replace the jar

[sullen basin]

proof me wrong, but just replace the jar?

[native cobalt]

hmmm ok

[sullen basin]

Don't forget to do a backup

pls

[west cloak]

^ Yeah, that’s pretty important

[west cloak]

Yes and for port i use SRV record

[sullen basin]

so your srv looks something like this

_mc._tcp.example.com. SRV 10 25565 mc.example.com.

?

and in namecheap your A Record has to look something like this: @ SERVER_IP Automatic

[west cloak]

I have multiple SRV record and A records

Srv:

_minecraft _tcp 0 0 (port) mc.myserver.net 30 minutes

A record:

mc (ip) Automatic

When i pur _tcp.mc it removes the .mc

I followed strikers tutorial

[sullen basin]

wait why mc in a record?

a record has to point to the blank server

@ (ip) Automatic

then you can srv _mc._tcp.myserver.net. 10 (port) mc.myserver.net 30 minutes

[lunar vortex]

What happend?

[sullen basin]

wait nvm a record with host mc is ok i guess

[tawny dust]

It tells you

[west cloak]

I can send you screenshot i dm

[sullen basin]

ok

[tacit star]

do worldedit and vault work on 1.17?

@me if you reply thx :D

[near python]

yo im hosting a server from my laptop and when my friend tried to join he couldnt and this was the message he kept getting. anyone have any wisdom or insight theyd like to share?

[tawny dust]

Yes if you use beta builds of WorldEdit

[tawny dust]

Make sure you've portforwarded and that your firewall isn't blocking the server

[tacit star]

where do i find beta versions?

[tawny dust]

https://builds.enginehub.org/job/worldedit

[tacit star]

thx so much

[jovial wharf]

Hello, does anyone know the placeholder to see server's status?

like if a server is offline or online

in a bungeecord obviously

[deft nexus]

https://tryitands.ee/

[tacit star]

Lol thanks

Great advice.

[fierce monolith]

somone help me iam getting error in my deluxehub plugin

?paste

[magic zenith]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[fierce monolith]

https://paste.md-5.net/tinonuqike.sql

[fierce monolith]

help

@tawny dust @sullen basin

help someone

pls

i have done everything correct bt still its giving me this error

help

[tawny dust]

Bruh

Chill

I'm

Not

[fierce monolith]

iam '

[tawny dust]

Going (to help you if you type like that)

[jovial wharf]

bump

[trail falcon]

Hello does anyone know where to get experimental datapacks for 1.17 (terrain generation)

[west cloak]

you mean the caves and cliffs datapack?

[trail falcon]

mhm

[tawny dust]

1.17 release post

[fierce monolith]

Help

[west cloak]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/4402614709389-Caves-Cliffs-Prototype-Data-Pack-for-Minecraft-Java-Edition

[trail falcon]

tankyuuu

[west cloak]

nah

[azure thunder]

Have you edited recently edited config.yml?

[fierce monolith]

Yes

I have recently edited it

[azure thunder]

Did you look for errors in your syntax?

[fierce monolith]

Means?

Iam new ago server building

[azure thunder]

pastebin your config.yml so I can see it

[fierce monolith]

Ok

[tawny dust]

Not the problem but ok

[azure thunder]

Oh, guess that's not the problem.

[fierce monolith]

My config is fixed idk how but prob in data.yml

[azure thunder]

Sorry for trying to help you out..

[west cloak]

how tf would that be related to the config?

[fierce monolith]

https://paste.md-5.net/qunikijite.coffeescript

data.yml

same error of config

[azure thunder]

[10:15:45 ERROR]: [DeluxeHub] ============= CONFIGURATION ERROR =============
[10:15:45 ERROR]: [DeluxeHub] There was an error loading config.yml

[west cloak]

zip file closed

[fierce monolith]

this was the error

[west cloak]

last i checked, config files werent zips

[fierce monolith]

now error in data.tml

yml

[west cloak]

i mean, that config is invalid tho

https://paste.md-5.net/mihemumeri.bash @fierce monolith
copy and paste this

learn to use quotes

and use https://jsonformatter.org/yaml-formatter to validate the configs

[azure thunder]

hmm how bout that

Thx for helping them out @west cloak

[fierce monolith]

Ok

[west cloak]

I never said that was the only problem tho

i just said there config was fucked

[tawny dust]

Config error should not cause zip file closed

[west cloak]

^

[azure thunder]

Step by step, drilling down the issues.

[tawny dust]

But yeah fixing config could be a partial fix

[fierce monolith]

Ok now getting no errors

[azure thunder]

great news

[west cloak]

sus

[lunar vortex]

How i can put a límite of homes in the simplehomes plugin?

[hexed tusk]

hello, anyone know a snap that when a mob or gamer dies he drops his head
1.16.5

[west cloak]

my server crashes when i run it with more than 5G of ram

and its paper

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771438691289137212/858008952016994344/unknown.png

should i ask in paper or you can answer here ?

[west cloak]

a snap? wtf is a snap

[sullen basin]

but you got 5G of RAM, right?

[west cloak]

i updated to java 16 and worked

[tawny dust]

Aight

[sullen basin]

oh wait 1.17?

[tawny dust]

That error doesn't have anything to do with spigot

The GC failed for some reason causing the JVM to crash

[still lion]

whats the latest build for 1.17

???

[tawny dust]

Why do you ask?

[west cloak]

https://paste.md-5.net/ihucukubap.md
How do I fix this?

[tawny dust]

Reset database or try to fix the part that's malformed

[west cloak]

i need to keep database

i can migrate to mysql

[azure thunder]

Try a table repair?

[west cloak]

it works?

[azure thunder]

May not be as simple as that, doesn't hurt.

[west cloak]

how to do that?

[azure thunder]

Google "SQLite Database Repair"

If it's a managed hosted solution, you should contact their support.

[west cloak]

i dont know

[west cloak]

Are the plugins updated to 1.17?

[tawny dust]

"the plugins" lmao

[west cloak]

Um, I don't talk English very well

So are they updated?

[tawny dust]

"they"

[west cloak]

-_-

[tawny dust]

Which plugins are you talking about

There are like 20k of them

[west cloak]

I need:
LockettePro
SetHome
LoginSecurity
QuickTree
PixelPrinter

[tawny dust]

Now open google and search for them

And see if 1.17 is listed as supported version

[west cloak]

Ok...

[tawny dust]

We're not your plugin library

[west cloak]

Aanyway

[west cloak]

go look yourself

[brittle ivy]

is world gaurd for protecting spawns or can you use it to claim land on like a smp

[still lion]

link plz

[west cloak]

https://spigot.club/changelog

[still lion]

thanks

[royal lintel]

I need help but I cant send photos

Im not so sure if its because of spigot tho.

That's the thing...

[tawny dust]

Verify

But if it's text use

[median silo]

Hope this is the right place for this question, slap me with a fish if not 🙂 : Anyone have a good suggestion for a plugin that randomly changes new user spawns in your world? I'm setting up a spigot server for some newbie MC players and would like it if new users were spread out in the world when they first start.

[tawny dust]

?paste

[magic zenith]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[royal lintel]

ok

[oblique sun]

lol !verify

[royal lintel]

bru it not sending me the dm

nvm I found it

k

what is causing that?

is it spigot?

cause it never happened on vinilla

[oblique sun]

is server.jar there?

[royal lintel]

yes

well lemme rechexk

[royal lintel]

yes there is

Is it the jar?

[tawny dust]

This is your panel killing the server for some reason

[royal lintel]

Oh ok

But why?

[oblique sun]

are you using to much ram?

[royal lintel]

I got 20gb ram on it

and with the spigot it uses like 8gb

[oblique sun]

k what server version

[royal lintel]

1.17

[oblique sun]

ah

dont use 1.17

its fucked

dont use it

ever

ever

[royal lintel]

on spigot?

[oblique sun]

NO USING IT

use 1.16.5

[royal lintel]

at all??

[oblique sun]

YEP

its fucking broken as shit

[royal lintel]

my stuff is alr on 1.17

and for 2 weeks it was fine tho

[oblique sun]

well

1.17 is full of bugs

so dont use it

[royal lintel]

like what kind?

[oblique sun]

it crashes

[royal lintel]

Is that why my server is like that?

[oblique sun]

ye probs

[royal lintel]

But then why was it fine before

till now

[oblique sun]

also it will eat up your ram sometimes

[royal lintel]

vanilla used only 1gb ram and added when ppl joined

[oblique sun]

just dont use 1.17

it breaks alot of shit

alot of plugins broke during 1.17

[royal lintel]

I don't use plugins

[oblique sun]

ok but just dont use 1.17

its not stable

shouldnt be used for production

mostly for testing but still even then dont use it

[royal lintel]

But then my server.

Wait I got 2 answers. Because 1.17 bugs and cuz panel killing my server

Which is correct?

[oblique sun]

both

1.17 sometimes eats your ram which the panel is probs using oom killer

so its probs killing your process when 1.17 is eating all the ram

[royal lintel]

oom killer?

[oblique sun]

Out of Memory Killer

its a linux thing

[royal lintel]

But my server has 20gb ram and it only uses 8gb

[oblique sun]

pterodactyl doesnt measure ram usage correctly tho

[royal lintel]

It says Out of memory: False

[oblique sun]

that doesnt mean that it isnt crashing from being out of memory

;-;

like i said pterodactyl i dont think measure ram usage well

[royal lintel]

can I fix?

[jolly rock]

has 1.17 changed how it saved data? On a vanilla server, theres no world nether or end folders but it does exist?

or did spigot just create different world folders for the nether and end

[tawny dust]

This

[jolly rock]

ah

[final quiver]

Someone send me the command to kill nearby fish

cause my server lagging

[tawny dust]

/kill @e[type=<fish id,distance=..<range>]

[final quiver]

Thanks

[onyx geode]

is sand duping patched

[median bloom]

set

[tawny dust]

Looking for #help-development or are you a user

[reef fjord]

how much should a network cost per month to host

with 4 servers

and 1 bungee

1 server with 10gb

3 servers with 4gb

bungee 1gb

[urban mist]

That will cost a fair bit - but considering you know how many servers you need why don’t you look it up

[civic olive]

I think I saw one in so SyS with around 50$

[onyx geode]

can someone tell me what is going on here

so on my local host server the sand dupe works

on my actual server it doesn't

running the same version of spigot

[sullen basin]

40 to 50 bucks

depends on your location tbh

[reef fjord]

yeah pebblehost costs 75 aud per month

about like 56 usd

is that a fair price?

[sullen basin]

pepplehost is uk, isnt it?

you don't want that while in australia lol

[reef fjord]

well i dont want it hosted in australia

its north america btw

but everyone complains about ping

i dont really care if my ping is like 300

[sullen basin]

y, ping is a problem for most EN players

[median bloom]

pebblehost is awful

[sullen basin]

since they are located on at least 3 different continents lol

[median bloom]

i won't lie

[reef fjord]

any reasons?

[sullen basin]

i also heard bad things about pebblehost

bad performance

[median bloom]

terrible support, overselling cpu

[reef fjord]

what else is better though

[sullen basin]

So you want ur server hosted in UK?

[reef fjord]

no in the US

[sullen basin]

NA

ok

[reef fjord]

they have options to host in the US

[median bloom]

dedicatedmc has been really reliable in my experience

good support

[sullen basin]

what was ur budget

[median bloom]

ive used shockbyte pebblehost and a dedicated server before them

very straightforward, give you what you get, let you set startup flags

[sullen basin]

what about ovh ?

[reef fjord]

im saving up

i have $50 aud rn

[median bloom]

yeah, i used a ~100/mo ovh server for a couple months

[reef fjord]

i was saving up for 75

for pebblehost

[median bloom]

i mean obviously you get what you pay for but the setup isnt something i wanted to do again

[sullen basin]

tbh I'm not a fan of "specialized" mc hosters

[median bloom]

that's part of what you pay for in my mind

[reef fjord]

should i use a VPS to host

[sullen basin]

well a vps is probably the same you would get at pebblehost lol but cheaper

[west cloak]

How do i fix broken chunks?

[sullen basin]

but also less managed

[west cloak]

There are chunks that won't load

[sullen basin]

you need to do more stuff on your own

[median bloom]

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[reef fjord]

thats fine\

[median bloom]

oh

nvm

[median bloom]

output of /version, what plugins, anything special you're doing

[west cloak]

The server crashed after i went into these chunks..

[median bloom]

happy for you! but that doesn't do what i asked

[sullen basin]

sadly, I'm not familiar with vps pricing in NA, I'm from europe

I can rent a 16 core 48gb ram vps for 25€ lol

which is around 30 bucks

[mortal portal]

Where u got that my guy?

Contabo ain't that cheap in germany

[sullen basin]

it's not contabo

[mortal portal]

Contabo the cheapest I found

[sullen basin]

OVH NA I see 8 core with 8gb ram for 30 bucks xd

32gb ram for 60 bucks

[fallow gust]

that must be one wild hosting provider to get 48 GB for 25€

[mortal portal]

I got the lazy 7gb

Enough for 1 modded server

[sullen basin]

well it's a vps

idk about the hardware right now lemme check

[fallow gust]

Still, what hosting provider are you using ?

[sullen basin]

it might be trash so idk

[fallow gust]

even for a VPS those prices are on the low low end

[mortal portal]

Probably mom and dad's garage

Hosting from ther

[sullen basin]

they're called 1blu

german only I guess

I see no language settings

[mortal portal]

Well I wanna see that

Would be happy if I could afford that

[sullen basin]

https://gyazo.com/c4f487516179a4e49a12791a953d13f4

also KVM, I can use my own image

[mortal portal]

Tf they have been drinking

[sullen basin]

and inklusiv domain

[civic olive]

Can you check trust pilot or something along those lines? and online review too, it seems to good to be true

[sullen basin]

they're hot right now, but as I said, no idea about hardware

[sullen basin]

I'm customer there

for about 9 months now

[fallow gust]

Yeah idk trust pilot has some very very interesting reviews

[mortal portal]

9€ 16fb ram 6 cores

Loooooool

[sullen basin]

I got the 8 cores, 24gb ram and 600gb ssd for 13€

[fallow gust]

with 77% of people rating it with 1 out of 5

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.1blu.de

[verbal kernel]

lol for 30€ per month you can buy dedicated server from Hetzner with like 64GB of RAM

[sullen basin]

y well I don't had any problems at all

[verbal kernel]

VPS are shit as you share resources with others.

[sullen basin]

show me, best they can do right now is 32gb for 38 bucks per month

[verbal kernel]

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax

look at AX41-NVME

[mortal portal]

When I make a server ima go for root / dedicated server

[sullen basin]

well thats 40€ not 30 :D

[mortal portal]

Nd retire the ol 7gb

[verbal kernel]

Yes dedicated servers are the best.

[verbal kernel]

It depend where you live.

As Vat is different per country.

[sullen basin]

Tru

you're from?

[verbal kernel]

I can get it without a VAT as I have company.

[mortal portal]

More like 50€ first time

[sullen basin]

or tell me ur vat

xD

[verbal kernel]

0%

[sullen basin]

Oh ok

[civic olive]

fees for setup ?

[mortal portal]

Yes

[sullen basin]

Well, I can't realte to the bad 1blu reviews. I had friendly support and never ever had any downtimes in 9 month

mc server running smoothly on a 24gb vps with 10 players

¯_(ツ)_/¯

for 13€

most ppl complaining about webhosting and contract... so idk

[forest nimbus]

well i have the griefprevention plugin but the /trust isnt working

any ideas?

[sullen basin]

thanks for the link @verbal kernel btw, I might get one of these ryzen 3600 bad bois

[verbal kernel]

If you order server from Hetzner invoice will come next month

so you will pay next month for previous month + next month

[sullen basin]

around 46€

[mortal portal]

He just straight up soap

[civic olive]

is that intended for me 😄 ?

[mortal portal]

Yes

U bar of soap

[sullen basin]

but hetzner also has server auction with no fees

[civic olive]

Yep, I know, I literally copied my name from a bar of soap(lux brand)

from the translation side xD

[mortal portal]

Lol

We got an German imposter among us

[sullen basin]

lol

get him!

[civic olive]

that's good to know, but a little bit weird at the same time

Stay away or I will not keep you clean

[mortal portal]

Get him Stazi Comrades (no hate)

[civic olive]

🤣

[sullen basin]

wtf is that z

do your homework, it's s

[mortal portal]

;7

Sowy wrong character

Can't write with English keyboard

[sullen basin]

@verbal kernel do you know if the cpu benchmark score is the same as passmark cpu score?

at hetzner server acution

[verbal kernel]

like you can test their server for less then a month

and then just cancel is

so it's somehow 1 month free

but next month you will need to pay for previous month

[verbal kernel]

Different websites have different tests so score will be different.

[civic olive]

I thought about it, but I didn't really believe they would do that 🤣

[sullen basin]

server auction isn't really worth it by now lol

old cpu for a shitload of money

well it's still the cheapest

but the hetzner robot you just send is cheaper and the setup is stronger

[civic olive]

Yes, but it wears it out, and the electricity bills(depending were it's located)

[sullen basin]

I mean wtf, for just 45€ i get an ryzen 5 3600, 64gb ddr4 ram and 512gb nvme ssd xD

thats ridicolous cheap

2x512gb* in raid

[forest nimbus]

what would you fine people recommend as a host server for like 30-50 people?

[median bloom]

your house

[sullen basin]

lol

[forest nimbus]

yeet

this server is so helpful

XD

[sullen basin]

what's your location

[forest nimbus]

europe

[sullen basin]

budget?

[forest nimbus]

erm not sure

20 ish

[sullen basin]

20-ish bucks? 30-50 people?

there is no hoster for that I guess

[forest nimbus]

ok what would i need to pay?

[civic olive]

depends on which minecraft version, plugins, map size, etc

[median bloom]

dedicatedmc does the job for me, good support, $36/mo for the good plan

[sullen basin]

30 to 50 people on one instance of a server?

[hallow rover]

20 bucks can get you 50 people back in the old days

not so much now

[forest nimbus]

yeah im using apex rn and have 30 ppl on at a time

but its growing

[civic olive]

Yea, now you need to start from dedi

[median bloom]

apex is bad

[hallow rover]

dedi is a broad term

you can have a dedi that cant host 2 players

you can have a vps that hosts 100

[sullen basin]

dedicatedmc says, they place 8 mc servers on a single 6 core ryzen

[hallow rover]

12 threads

so theyre still underselling

[median bloom]

you get a core dedicated to you, 2 threads

[forest nimbus]

im running java with geyser so its crossplay

[hallow rover]

and accounting for hypervisor

[sullen basin]

a little less than that but it's ok I guess compared to other hosters

[sullen basin]

is that singular?

:D

so just 1 core?

[hallow rover]

gecko theres nothing that says they dont mean thread

[median bloom]

i asked them

they said 1 core, 2 threads

[hallow rover]

who did you ask, tech support wont know

[median bloom]

maybe the 8 comes from these

says 1 core per 2 servers on those

no no here it is

[hallow rover]

guess they do mean that then

[sullen basin]

has anyone tried Azure here before?

😂 😭

[hallow rover]

yea why

[forest nimbus]

whats azure?

[sullen basin]

Microsoft

[median bloom]

azure nuts

[hallow rover]

ms hosting

[sullen basin]

is it... you know.. useable for gameservers like mc?

[hallow rover]

no

[sullen basin]

:D

[forest nimbus]

whats wrong with Apex btw

[verbal kernel]

Apex is expensive as hell

[sullen basin]

dedicated is love

dedicated is life

[hallow rover]

apex nerfed pathfinder thats why it sucks

:>

[sullen basin]

try hetzner lol

[forest nimbus]

idk what hetzner is

or pathfinder

sorry

[verbal kernel]

Hetzner is one of the cheapest dedicated hosting provider

[sullen basin]

from the EA Game apex xD

[hallow rover]

^

[verbal kernel]

I use their servers to provide game hosting

and that's why I'm like 4x cheaper then competitors XD

[sullen basin]

since u live in europe it's a good choice I guess

[hallow rover]

ohh rabbit is a white label?

i thought you owned the rigs

[verbal kernel]

I do some

[forest nimbus]

so they just provide a server? not minecraft?

[verbal kernel]

I'm slowly migrating to self hosting

[verbal kernel]

yes they provide dedicated machine

[hallow rover]

makes sense now

[sullen basin]

renting dedicated servers is a good start I guess

[verbal kernel]

Yeah

[hallow rover]

if you have no idea what a dedi is you dont need one

tbh

[verbal kernel]

can agree with that.

[forest nimbus]

well yes i do understand

it maybe the way to go

[verbal kernel]

Linux and stuffs 😂

[hallow rover]

you can host on windows but youll have to eat the overhead

[forest nimbus]

but i guess i dont get the luxury of web page for control panel for mc

[hallow rover]

if you can figure out ptero you can have one

[forest nimbus]

i just set it up myself like it was a home server

[hallow rover]

but its just worth using ssh or some stuff

[verbal kernel]

You can install Pterodactyl panel on it

[sullen basin]

basically, you can install whatever you want

[hallow rover]

pteros a bitch to set up just a note

[verbal kernel]

like 99% other minecraft hosting providers do

It's really easy if you know basic of linux

I have installed it like 100+ times

[forest nimbus]

ik a little linux

[lyric spire]

I set hub to a fallback server

[civic olive]

yep, quite a few of tutorials out there

[hallow rover]

its easy IF nothing goes wrong

[verbal kernel]

don't need tutorials

they documentation is TOP

[hallow rover]

if anything goes wrong you are in for a headache

i disagree with good docs also tbh

[sullen basin]

oh lol, hi. Ok, and?

[forest nimbus]

so its kinda cool, you just rent a dedi server

[hallow rover]

good docs should account for things potentially not going correctly. their docs just say google it for everything

[verbal kernel]

it really provide you everything you need to do.

[lyric spire]

And? It still doesn't work

[verbal kernel]

I can install it in like 10 minutes.

[sullen basin]

oh that's unfortunate

[lyric spire]

Is the fallback server the server you are going to connect to every time?

[verbal kernel]

I have also earn money with helping people install Pterodactyl panel 😂

[sullen basin]

what about the guy who was helping you besides me? He had a different approach I guess

[verbal kernel]

On Fiver

[lyric spire]

Idk

@tawny dust are you available now?

[sullen basin]

the fallback server is the server you connect to, if the default server you would connect to is offline/not reachable

like it says a fall-back

[lyric spire]

What is wrong with my config then

[forest nimbus]

so let me get my head round this, you just rent a server and then have access to it via remote connection or something and ftp and then you do everything yourself?

[sullen basin]

Yes!

[forest nimbus]

i like that

[verbal kernel]

if server get's offline while players are in game it will kicked them.

[sullen basin]

You do everything in a console

[civic olive]

sftp please

[verbal kernel]

That's why you can use plugin to solve that

[sullen basin]

lol

[lyric spire]

The server is online, so what is the problem?

[forest nimbus]

yes sftp

i use winscp

[sullen basin]

Why not stream tar files with cat trough ssh 😂

[lyric spire]

I just want to know why I can't connect to my server

lol

[verbal kernel]

scp is my baby XD

[lyric spire]

I have done this multiple times earlier but this time it doesn't work

[forest nimbus]

so how much would you pay for dedi

[sullen basin]

in europe with hetzner? @ziga showed me a price, wait a second

[civic olive]

Exactly! well when using linux, atm I'm in windows 😡

[verbal kernel]

I didn't use Windows for years XD

I only use it to compile my applications 😅 (But that doesn't count)

[lyric spire]

@sullen basin where can I set the default server? Like the server the player is going to join every time

[civic olive]

I was forced by university and then I had some trouble with increasing the partition size, so I just diteched it

[verbal kernel]

I still need to buy macbook just so I can make apple applications

[sullen basin]

46€/month + 46€ one time setup fee in germany
40€/month + 46€ one time setup fee in finland
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax41-nvme/configurator

@forest nimbus

but wait it can get cheaper

[civic olive]

SyS?

[sullen basin]

with server auction
https://www.hetzner.com/sb

[verbal kernel]

34.00€/month + 39.00€ one time setup fee

[sullen basin]

3rd gen i7 + 16gigs of ram for 38€/month without setup fees

[forest nimbus]

cool thanks gonna take a look

[verbal kernel]

didn't worth paying 38€ just for 16GB of ram

don't use auction

[sullen basin]

y but there are no setup fees. Idk about his budget

if he want's to try out things he can start with that

[civic olive]

within 2 or 3 months he gets the fee back with this configuration, I don't think it's worth it

[verbal kernel]

if you want server for long term / few months

then setup fee is not important

[sullen basin]

what if he overestimated his linux skills and cancels the server the next month?

90€ for nothing

[forest nimbus]

will be long term

[sullen basin]

he can try it out first

and upgrade later

[civic olive]

Certain providers remove the fee if you rent it quarterly or annually **

[forest nimbus]

im a she btw 🙂

[sullen basin]

oh sorry for that

too many dudes here

[forest nimbus]

lol

[civic olive]

I agree, you're right for that, she needs to make sure she has the right skills before that

[sullen basin]

also, for testing purpose she could set up a linux vm locally first

cost 0€

[civic olive]

Yep and in case she can't she can choose digital ocean to test it out

(hardware limitations or what ever)

[sullen basin]

important is to first check things out before going all out and waste money

[forest nimbus]

yes maybe i should set up locally

[sullen basin]

:D

[forest nimbus]

could i set it up on virtualbox?

[verbal kernel]

Digital ocean is to extensive the same goes for linode

[sullen basin]

yes you can

[forest nimbus]

on my local pc

cool

maybe is should do that first

what verison of linux should i use?

[verbal kernel]

Install Virtual Box and then Ubuntu server 20.04

[forest nimbus]

ok

[sullen basin]

pssst psst psst don't ask that here

[forest nimbus]

oof

sorry

[sullen basin]

you could start a war

[verbal kernel]

Ubuntu server 20.04 😉

[sullen basin]

I prefer debian but ubuntu is fine

[verbal kernel]

Ubuntu is just Debian on steroids

[sullen basin]

https://ubuntu.com/download/server

[sullen basin]

I won't answer that

[civic olive]

I prefer debian over ubuntu any time

[verbal kernel]

Hahaha you really don't need to

[forest nimbus]

do i choose mutlipass?

[magic zenith]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[lyric spire]

?paste

[verbal kernel]

No

Option 2

[forest nimbus]

oof

[lyric spire]

Just needed the link

[forest nimbus]

pl

[verbal kernel]

manually download

[civic olive]

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

[forest nimbus]

ok

ty

will it run on my laptop?

[sullen basin]

ubuntu stands and falls with canoncial

[forest nimbus]

its a asus rog 14

[sullen basin]

server version, not desktop

[sullen basin]

yeees

[civic olive]

argh, my bad

[sullen basin]

any minimal linux distro will probably run on a smart fridge

[verbal kernel]

I have order a laptop now I need to order macbook and Iphone.

[forest nimbus]

oh server verision

[sullen basin]

I use a mac for work. Don't do it

[verbal kernel]

So I will have every operating system at home for compiling 😂

I hate mac

[sullen basin]

me 2

[forest nimbus]

ok downloading

[civic olive]

Can't send you the link it returns to the multipass, just pick the Option 2

[verbal kernel]

I just want mac users to use my applications

[sullen basin]

I hated it before I had to work with it. Now I hate it even more

[forest nimbus]

i have an old macbook pro

[lyric spire]

https://paste.md-5.net/etolohucuc.makefile
Here is my current config, still doesn't work.
Error: Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException

[forest nimbus]

like 8 years old

[verbal kernel]

that is a lot

[forest nimbus]

yeah i wont update to the latest os anymore

[verbal kernel]

Like I just paid 700€ for "windows" laptop (I will install Linux on it)

[lyric spire]

Seen the 2011 macs? 😂

[verbal kernel]

but I still need to buy Macbook and Iphone just to make my application supported for those platforms

[forest nimbus]

mine is from 2013

lol

[lyric spire]

Ye but the 2011 ones is older

[verbal kernel]

Where do you live?

Like country

[civic olive]

🤣

[lyric spire]

What a question 😂

[verbal kernel]

if I would buy a laptop from you XD

[sullen basin]

tru

[forest nimbus]

united kingdom

[civic olive]

I have mixed feelings for apple's ecosystem

[bleak flare]

Hello, I am having a problem with a vps, can someone help me?

[tawny dust]

?ask

[magic zenith]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[sullen basin]

I was about to do that

[civic olive]

just post your questions and related information

[verbal kernel]

ufff those people isolated themselves from Europe so I would need to pay for customs

[sullen basin]

😂

[civic olive]

wait, wait, check if there some ongoing deal or something

[sullen basin]

full taxes right there

[civic olive]

If I'm not mistaken in certain countries, you only pay the tax and 0 customs

well for a while more

[verbal kernel]

I bought a server for 500€ from UK

I needed to pay 250€ for customs

just because UK leaves EU.

[forest nimbus]

oof

[civic olive]

nope, nope, nope, fuck me

[sullen basin]

😂

[median bloom]

ok friend me

i will

[verbal kernel]

Now I can't buy server from UK anymore... I mean at least this prevent my addiction on buying servers XD

[civic olive]

what kind of addiction is that ?

[verbal kernel]

I don't know

I have 5 or 6 servers at home now.

[forest nimbus]

nice

[civic olive]

what about cooling ?

[verbal kernel]

they produce cool air

[median bloom]

he's already really cool

[sullen basin]

an expensive one

[civic olive]

yea xD

[bleak flare]

A new vps, do not install anything but it tells me that I have no space

[sullen basin]

I was about to build my home lab, then I looked into my bank account and decided to better not

[civic olive]

my home lab will consists of Raspberry Pi ^_^

[civic olive]

Host, OS, run fdisk -l, hardware, etc

[sullen basin]

y the rasperry pi 4 is the only server-ish thing I got

lul

[sullen basin]

damn you

[civic olive]

damn you x2

🤣

[verbal kernel]

ubuntu 2 and 3 are performance ones.

[sullen basin]

72gigs of ram on ubuntu 2 ok

[verbal kernel]

ubuntu 2 with 72GB of RAM

and ubuntu 3 with 142GB of RAM

[sullen basin]

OH WAIT

thats not 14

[west cloak]

Mmmmmm, many gb of ram

[sullen basin]

thats 142

xD

[verbal kernel]

yeah

[civic olive]

I saw it, but I was like, it can't be, now way

[west cloak]

Ram yummy

[civic olive]

What are you running ?

[verbal kernel]

only noobs runs Minecraft 1.17 on less then 100GB of RAM 😂

[civic olive]

or planning to run there

[verbal kernel]

on Ubuntu 1 dns server, ad blocker...

on ubuntu 2 and 3 free minecraft hosting

on ubuntu 4 Rabbit Flex (It's like Netflix but with more movies and Slovenian subtitles)

[civic olive]

Why free?

[verbal kernel]

on ubuntu 5 Rabbit Storage (server with 20TB storage)

[verbal kernel]

I don't care if server is running empty or with people on it.

also that brings more people to my hosting

Even tho I lost 600€ per month because of my hosting 😂

[civic olive]

As someone who has used free hosting(years ago) thank you 🙂

[verbal kernel]

Like 70% of people even don't pay for an invoice

[civic olive]

oof

[verbal kernel]

yeah I really need to do something about that.

then I'm also to busy with other projects

[sullen basin]

wait wdym

[civic olive]

yea, it's not just 10-20$

[glad lynx]

?learnjava

[magic zenith]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[verbal kernel]

I use WHMCS and if automated payment doesn't work (Payee don't have enough money on a card) WHMCS will suspend their server

then they contact me and I unsuspend it as fast as possible

[civic olive]

Can't you do something about it though ? legally chasing is more of a hassle than worth it right ?

[verbal kernel]

but after that they will have free hosting

[civic olive]

or you can't be bothered?

[verbal kernel]

I will remove WHMCS and process orders manually.

with that I will also have better connection with customers (Don't worry not physical one)

[civic olive]

Yea, man, it's really a lot

[verbal kernel]

yeah

Like currently I'm working on server list.

[civic olive]

Yep, though, the only problem that I can see is the delay, like from when they contact you till you respond, etc, if you're sleeping and so on

[pseudo gale]

Anyone have any issues with iron golem spawning in the latest rev?

[verbal kernel]

today I just made my password manager for android devices

[verbal kernel]

Yes only delay is the cons. Other things are just pros.

[sullen basin]

oh nice you also work on that frontend and backend yourself?

[verbal kernel]

Yes I'm full stack developer

[tawny dust]

What did you use to make the app?

[verbal kernel]

from ground up

I don't like any frameworks

and bloatware

[tawny dust]

Ah nice

[sullen basin]

atta boy

from scratch <3

[verbal kernel]

yeah XP

I hate bloated software so much

[tawny dust]

Is the app open source 👀

[sullen basin]

I don't like frameworks of any kind at all. Like "you think I'm too stupid for that?"

The only framework I've ever used is laravel (php) 10 years ago

[verbal kernel]

and because Bitwarden (My "preferred" password manager) is so bloated I have decided to make my own.

[tawny dust]

I've only used Flutter and React Native so far I'd like to do it from scratch one day

[royal lintel]

I updated my sever from spigot to vinillla but it still says some stuff about spigot.

When i start it *

[civic olive]

I have so many questions

[sullen basin]

y me 2

"updated"

[verbal kernel]

Just take a look at Sngo**a website and then on Poyma*t

[sullen basin]

migrated at best

[verbal kernel]

first one uses node js and it's bloated as hell

second one is pure PHP

[sullen basin]

wait what

something is from with your formatting

[civic olive]

I played with nodeJS a while ago, not a big fun to be honest

[verbal kernel]

node js only brings bloat XD

[royal lintel]

I used spigot for my server then i decided to change it back to vinilla. But it still says stuff like how it was running in spigot aka Reloading ResourceManager: Default, bukkit . Why does it still say its reloading resourcemangager of bukkit.

[sullen basin]

hell ya

[verbal kernel]

I have censured that because those are spigot competitors

[sullen basin]

Oh

oh now i get it

[verbal kernel]

Like I made simple password manager in pure html, css and javascript but because I use Neutron, application is big around 60MB

[verbal kernel]

awesome

[civic olive]

With or without encryption ?

[verbal kernel]

Why would I made without encryption? XD

[sullen basin]

:D dude

[civic olive]

I've seen a lot 😄

[sullen basin]

whats the purpose of an unencrpyted pw manager

[verbal kernel]

It's made on zero trust architecture so even server doesn't know your passwords

everything in encrypted and decrypted on client side

[civic olive]

That's good to know 😄

[verbal kernel]

Now my project is like a virus XD I'm trying to publish it every where

from snap store to google play

[civic olive]

you forgot app store

🤣

[verbal kernel]

so it can be download everywhere on every device

[civic olive]

are u 1 man team ?

[verbal kernel]

I don't have macbook and iphone that's why I can't make it for IOS / MAC

[verbal kernel]

yes

I prefer to work alone.

[civic olive]

yep, I know, I was trying to poke the hornet's nest 😄

sorry

[civic olive]

that's impressive tbf

[verbal kernel]

haha yeah that's why I asked her if she is selling that laptop XD

but UK is hell now.

because of customs

[civic olive]

uhm, to the guy/girl who had trouble with spigot/vanilla, upload a pic with the files of your server

[civic olive]

yea, I don't even know why they did, I thing the cons are way more than the pros at this point for them

[verbal kernel]

can really agree with that.

Now Europe is buying vaccines for us

helping us

[sullen basin]

But this is your actual full time job right?

rabbit hosting

[civic olive]

exactly

[verbal kernel]

I have company in America, but I'm still visiting college

I still have 1 year left to finish.

[sullen basin]

oh so how old r u?

If I may ask

[verbal kernel]

19

will be 20 this year

[sullen basin]

damn

Every time I hear about such young ppl I feel bad

xD

[verbal kernel]

Why? XD

[sullen basin]

like I wasted time

xD

[verbal kernel]

I have already wasted so much time

[civic olive]

then stop wasting time and push it, start, but don't stop

it's never too late

[verbal kernel]

I made Online Bank from scratch. It took me 6 months of coding. But then I didn't publish it because I don't have all licenses and I need at least 300 000€ capital

[sullen basin]

I mean, I'm 23 but I just started to work and learn as a system administrator full time

[civic olive]

it's better to do what you love in 1,2,3,4 years down the line than continue hating it

[glad lynx]

?learnjava

[magic zenith]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[verbal kernel]

Even Turkish company wanted to buy it for 500 000€

but I have refuse

I'm stupid

[sullen basin]

probably

:D

[verbal kernel]

Like I though that I will earn much more with it.

But then I couldn't publish it because of licenses

Now I have decided that I will only work on small projects.

Won't waste more months for nothing.

[civic olive]

You didn't waste so many months for nothing

How much research did you do? How many new things did you learn? There is a ton of experience there, you may not feel it, but it's there

but, yea, no money 😡

[verbal kernel]

I mean I don't feel that I have learned anything new. Except for stupid laws 😂

Some days ago I get another idea from shower.

To combine crypto and online bank

So it will not be online bank

it would work on tangle network

so network fees won't exists.

it should be free bank system with benefits of crypto security.

so money won't be stored in on server. but on more devices that runs nodes

[civic olive]

isn't that quite tricky though? from the side of law I mean

[west cloak]

imagine not having 300k

[civic olive]

Here, me, I don't need to imagine it

[verbal kernel]

hahaha

I have never saw 300k in my bank account

[west cloak]

also

[sullen basin]

open browser console and change your account

lol

[civic olive]

🤣

[west cloak]

why did you decide to put 6 months of your life in coding something that was not going to be able to be published?

[verbal kernel]

hahaha

[verbal kernel]

Didn't know that

[sullen basin]

he found out afterwards i guess

[west cloak]

ah ok

[verbal kernel]

yeah

[sullen basin]

oh lord already 0:23 a.m. for me

[verbal kernel]

same here

[sullen basin]

where did the time go

[civic olive]

1:24AM for me

[sullen basin]

so you're more to the east from me

[verbal kernel]

Also now I'm thinking why do I have organization in GitHub if I'm only one member XD

[civic olive]

I'm from Greece

[sullen basin]

because you can

[sullen basin]

I really was about to guess that

[glad rain]

to not have 50k repos on your pf

aka dont pull an optic rofl

[verbal kernel]

I will delete forked repos

Done

I only have 20 repositories

[glad rain]

most of my repos are private

[verbal kernel]

and 6 in organization

[verbal kernel]

why?

I have almost all of them public

except of one

[grizzled nimbus]

Prolly commissions or to preserve old projects or for projects not ready enough for the public

[verbal kernel]

I sell plugins on marketplaces and still have them open source

[civic olive]

I mean, fro my PoV you're the normal one

so many leaked source codes and plugins, not worth "hiding" it

[verbal kernel]

I have never copy and code from anyone

except for specific problems which are found on stackoverflow

[civic olive]

I meant it as, others will "crack" your plugin and upload it for free

[verbal kernel]

95% crackers are kids which doesn't know how to compile plugins

[civic olive]

Yep, I also don't like copying, no point, you don't learn anything, granted it takes a while longer to understand and write it, but after that you will not have a similar problem

[grizzled nimbus]

Also I doubt crackers would go as far to edit byte code

[verbal kernel]

hardcore ones would do that

but not for minecraft XD

[civic olive]

never seen someone do that

[fading sorrel]

Ziga more like

[verbal kernel]

hahah I don't want troubles

Like I made a video on how to hack every game with C++ only because you get a lot of views XD

But I also made Antivirus

so it's kinda deal.

I made more good stuffs then bad ones

Like I have received 56 000 views with only like few subscribers XD

only because I made that video

[ashen fox]

I got like a 20k view video lol

Like 30 subss

[verbal kernel]

nice

[ashen fox]

30k video 49 subs

.. I checked as I wanted to flex

[civic olive]

🤣

[verbal kernel]

my first 5 most watched videos are: ```

• How to hack any game with C++ Tutorial ---> 56 000 views
• Clash Royale RabbitModz private server ---> 4 300 views
• Pewdiepie virus (Ransomware) ---> 1 500 views
• Rabbit IP Tracker ---> 1 100 views

so you can clearly see that people only want to watch bad stuffs.

[civic olive]

well ... duh

[verbal kernel]

I made all of those when I was a stupid kid XD

[civic olive]

I'm going to sleep 😄 good night

[verbal kernel]

Good night

[glad rain]

Because I don't want people to see my one hundreth failed discord bot

[verbal kernel]

that's why community exists. If someone would really want to use your bot it will use it because it's open source and if he would want to add some features / fix bugs then he would do that and your old bots can still wake from death.

[lapis ingot]

Can someone say me a good AntiCheat for 1.17 ?

[lunar vortex]

Why in the simplehomes plugin when i put that the límit of homes is 10 the players with no op can only put one home?

[primal bear]

do I fr need another server on top of my hub fac and surv servers for bungee?

[hybrid pebble]

Can I add colors or add multiple lines on these messages?

[tall igloo]

http://tryitands.ee

google minecraft color codes

[west cloak]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-6607

logs: https://pastebin.com/DpYAdd7c

[copper bane]

why wont it let me turn my server into offline mode (i need it for bungeecord)
when i edit the server.properties
and start up the server it changes back into online mode
any solution to this?

[west cloak]

kill the server

and use the /stop

to stop it

then restart the server

u need acces to the console panel for this

[hybrid pebble]

not a single color code works...

[tall igloo]

how are you using them

[hybrid pebble]

I tried &c, \u00A7c, §c

the thing is that the setting doesn't have ''

should they be added?

[tall igloo]

http://tryitands.ee

[hybrid pebble]

actually yeah that was the issue you need to include '' to use & and if you want to make a a new line replace ' ' with " "

damn man you're annoying af ngl

[tall igloo]

lol

you really should take the advice tho

[bleak flare]

hi, i'm having a problem with my vps, can someone help me privately please? so I send you all the tests

[ancient anvil]

UltimateStacker

I need some help setting up votifier

It gives an error saying it can't decode the votes

NuVotifier*