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mellow dock
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Going on this site makes me want a ryzen 7/9

reef fjord
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yes but the i7 price is kinda high

verbal kernel
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look i5-9600K has only 6 threads

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I7-8700K has 12 threads

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so you can host 2x more servers on it

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and price would be kinda the same

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what about something like Ryzen 9 3900XT

reef fjord
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whats the cpu socket for that

verbal kernel
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it's around 500€

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and has 12 cores / 24 threads

reef fjord
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i have an 1151 motherboard

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the i7 8700K

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would it even work

verbal kernel
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you need to provide me with your motherboard name

reef fjord
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hold on

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ASRock B365M-HDV

verbal kernel
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yes it support 8 and 9th gen intel cpus

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I7-8700K is 8th gen

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i5-9600K is 9th gen

reef fjord
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so if i got the i5 one

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to save a bit of money

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would that fix the server chunk loading issue

verbal kernel
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I mean you will be able to run like 3 mc servers on it

reef fjord
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well im running 7 on my current cpu

verbal kernel
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3 mc servers and each server will consume like 2 threads

reef fjord
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i cant seem to find the i7 anywhere

verbal kernel
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even /wild is not working XD

reef fjord
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would the i7 9600k do?

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its 8 cores 8 threads

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but i kinda need 6 spigot servers and 1 bungee

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so yea

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oh wiat

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8 spigot servers 1 bungee

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im dumb

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i can stop 2

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because they arent played

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@verbal kernel

verbal kernel
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Hey

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Bungeecord don't need alot of cpu power

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So you can just ignore it.

reef fjord
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yea ik

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so like 6 spigot servers

verbal kernel
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Lol so every 9th gen intel cpu doesn't have double amount of threads then cpu😂

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R.I.P. intel every new cpu gen is worst then previous😂

reef fjord
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are there any other alternatives that are basically as good as the 8700k

verbal kernel
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I7-8700K is one of the best CPU.

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And it has been sold very well.

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It has like everything and its still cheap

sharp warren
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hi

reef fjord
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hi

sharp warren
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i have a problem on my spigot server we cannot switch modes anymore we could before can any one help me to figure it out can it be because the server is outdatd

reef fjord
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@verbal kernel could you send a place where i can buy an i7 8700k

sharp warren
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and i do not understad how to update it i tried what the wiki said but it did not work

reef fjord
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its super expensive

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$591 AUD

verbal kernel
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I don't like buying components from elsewhere 😁

verbal kernel
reef fjord
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does it cost 200€?

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what about the i7-9700k

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oh wait thats 8 cores and 8 threads

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😢

verbal kernel
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Oo yeah I have just checked it cost 500€ in Slovenia too.

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Like I bought it few years ago and price is still the same...

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From now on I will only use AMD cpus.

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Intel already failed so many times.

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With high prices, less cores / threads,

mellow dock
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AMD really stepped up on the CPU game in the last few years

verbal kernel
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Yeah and they are still stuck in 14nm 😂

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They can't make it any better.

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They have reached their limits.

reef fjord
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is the AMD Ryzen 5 3600

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good

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as a replacement for the i7 8700k

verbal kernel
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Yes it is good

reef fjord
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ill have to buy a new motherboard though 😢

verbal kernel
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I use it for website hosting

reef fjord
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whats a good amount of ram for a main lobby server

verbal kernel
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4 should be enough

reef fjord
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yea

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also the lobby crashes every now and then with the error

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Out of memory heap or something

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idk

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oh

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this

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java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

verbal kernel
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Some plugins can have memory leaks.

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So they will consume all of your ram.

reef fjord
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what are memory leaks

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probably one of my plugins huh

verbal kernel
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They are bad coded plugins.

reef fjord
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sounds like my plugins

verbal kernel
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And after some time memory consumption will increase

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Until server crashes

reef fjord
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what causes memory leaks

verbal kernel
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Bad coded plugins 😂

reef fjord
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i mean like

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what could i check

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to see if my plugin is causing it

mellow dock
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Memory leaks aren't super common in java thanks to the GC, but they definitely still happen

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I imagine the most common would be storing player instances in list or maps and not removing them on disconnect

verbal kernel
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I mean like saving data to table and not removing old ones.

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Yes

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Like that

mellow dock
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Or just not removing data from maps/list in general

reef fjord
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clearing onDisable?

mellow dock
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That won't help

reef fjord
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or is that no need

verbal kernel
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No on Disable is to late

mellow dock
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The server is shutting down anyway (unless you use reload)

verbal kernel
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Java run on small VM

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So when mc server is closed all data is removed from ram

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So you don't need to remove stuffs from tables onDisable method

heady pumice
mellow dock
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I believe the entire old plugin instance will be GCed

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Maybe, not really sure how reload works

west cloak
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whats more important ram or cores?

tawdry narwhal
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depends really

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Quad core does just fine in most instances

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so if you can get a quad core but insane ram amount for cheap, go for that. Ramdisks are a thing

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as well as running more then just the MC server on the system

red ginkgo
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is it possible to add a vanilla server to bungeecord

west cloak
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My towny plugins folder didnt have a ChatConflig.yml

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I created one but i dont think its working

mellow dock
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You need to have TownyChat installed

west cloak
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im not sure where to download that

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Nvm i found a version

mortal robin
red ginkgo
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I tried vanillacord but have had lo luck

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yeah ok

mellow dock
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I believe the townychat jar is in the same folder as the towny one when you download townyadvanced

west cloak
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well i just downloaded the towny chat plugin

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theres a folder that says "resources" "github" "src" "gitignore" and "pom.xml"

signal ivy
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you downloaded the repo

west cloak
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hmm

signal ivy
west cloak
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i downloaded this

signal ivy
west cloak
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Yea

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i then selected download

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and added the zip file to my plugins folder

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can i pls msg u i need help ;-;

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Basically channels.yml and chatconfig.yml are both missing!

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hello?

brazen tundra
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So i have a factions server that i want to make 24/7 without hamachi or zerotier or port forwarding

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But idk what server host I should pick

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Because I dont want to go back and re configure all the plugins and everything from the website

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Instead I want to drag the files and have them already configured with everything set

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And them to just be able to host it

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Imma take a shower

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By the time i come back can someone please have an swear

west cloak
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Most hosts are good though.

fading sorrel
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Don't use pebble smh.

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Theif support is horrendous.

mellow dock
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Pretty much any host lets you upload stuff

fading sorrel
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Their*

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Oh lol yeah.

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Really depends on his budget ig.

mellow dock
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Also don’t ask in 3 channels

fading sorrel
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Oof im no longer helping that kid.

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People who ask in multiple channels trigger me.

brazen tundra
fading sorrel
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You asked in development which has nothing to do with Minecraft plugins....

brazen tundra
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I asked to look in this channel

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Did i or did i not

tawny dust
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There is no reason to ask that

fading sorrel
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Exactly, there's a thing called being patient

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You're just going to get roasted and not receive help with that attitude, sorry to break it to ya.

brazen tundra
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Damn why u being extremely rude

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Like what point are you trying to get at

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What do u want me to say oh im sorry i wont ask in 3 channels

fading sorrel
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I'm explaining to you, so you don't do it again duh

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Now do you want my help?

brazen tundra
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Ok

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Alr what is the cheapest around 2-4 gb server host that’ll allow me to upload all my files and work 24/7

fading sorrel
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Really depends

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Different servers have different specs

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I.e better processor etc

tawny dust
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Do some research yourself. RAM isn't everything, you can get a lot of ram but a potato CPU

brazen tundra
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My computer can run it

fading sorrel
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^

brazen tundra
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And ik that fs

fading sorrel
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Ram ain't everything.

tawny dust
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Then portforwarding is required

fading sorrel
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Plus we don't know how many players you expect

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Or how many plugins you wanna use

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2-4 GB might not be enough

tawny dust
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But you did't want to portforward

brazen tundra
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I expect around 15-20

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Players

fading sorrel
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How many plugins

brazen tundra
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Not sure lemme check

fading sorrel
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Lemme guess 50+

brazen tundra
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Yes

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Around 106

fading sorrel
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Lmao

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Probs gonna need more than 4gb tbh

brazen tundra
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I already tried 4gb on a server and it works perfect no lag

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At alp

fading sorrel
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Yes without players

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And you don't know the specs of said host you will use (yet)

brazen tundra
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I had around 11 players when testing

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It was fine

fading sorrel
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So you'll be getting a host with the exact same specs?

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As your PC?

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Or similar.

brazen tundra
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? Elaborate

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Do you wanna get in call?

brazen tundra
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Or no

fading sorrel
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I can't atm

brazen tundra
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Ok then please elborate on the "So you'll be getting a host with the exact same specs?
As your PC?
Or similar.."

fading sorrel
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But basically when you tested it on your PC , it was performing good on the specs of YOUR PC

brazen tundra
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Yes

fading sorrel
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If your PC has X processor, and you get a host with X processor for example

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They're going to function differently

brazen tundra
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Ok

fading sorrel
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So if you want to keep the same performance, you'd have to find a host with a similar processor etc as your current machine

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It isn't just ram which matters

brazen tundra
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Ok

brazen tundra
fading sorrel
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There isn't much to it , if you research the specifications you need that's about it

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The actual running of it is piss essy

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Easy

brazen tundra
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What do I research for it

fading sorrel
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Idk google hosts which have similar specs to your computer

west cloak
tawny dust
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I've never had to contact their support

fading sorrel
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They're horrible for me , idk might have been just me lol

west cloak
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That was my experience may be different for you

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yeah idk

brazen tundra
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Since I have my server running off my computer

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And the way people join is through ZeroTier

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Is their anyway I can eliminate the ZeroTier and make the number ip a name ip

west cloak
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yes by buying a domain

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yes using domain and linking a record to the ip should be enuf

brazen tundra
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What is the cheapest domain

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And how would I link it

coral nimbus
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none it depends on the domain

steel ocean
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what file

prisma garnet
coral nimbus
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oh

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oops

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sorry

brazen tundra
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Does it matter that the ip is running off of ZeroTier

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Btw ZeroTier is another improved version of hamachi

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Like a lot more slots

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Etc

fading sorrel
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It's just easier buying a host

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And transferring

brazen tundra
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Thats the thing I dont know what to research and by the time I research I am still going to have understand

fading sorrel
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If you don't know how to research, you shouldn't be running a server.

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Or you should hire someone to do so for you.

misty valve
prisma garnet
west cloak
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I don't think this is a help but i am just asking, how many gb ram do i need for 25 players n for 30 plugins.

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3

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altogether?

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Is using of anti-xray increase usage of ram?

prisma garnet
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yes

west cloak
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any alternative for anti-xray, i mean it doesnt block x-ray but it notifies mod n staffs abt plyrs mining each block?

steel ocean
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any good anticheat?

steel ocean
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what file

quaint canopy
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does anyone know a plugin that lets people have like wepon cosmetics?

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like bow trails

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and other stuff

stuck zenith
steel ocean
mortal robin
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@pulsar snow

quaint canopy
stuck zenith
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seems like a very custom plugin thing to do, since you are trying to be unique with purchases

mortal robin
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I'm helping out with smth like that rn

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nothing is final though

steel ocean
quaint canopy
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Is there no plugins that can do it?

steel ocean
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I can make it for u as plugin

stuck zenith
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i'll probably do it when i start liking the bukkit api again

keen hemlock
hallow rover
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Also depends on the domain

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Domain price is purely interest based

stuck zenith
keen hemlock
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I have a free .me domain with namecheap

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:dab:

stuck zenith
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i got a free .tech domain with github student plan

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not used it yet

steel ocean
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Can i finally get help? I have 2h to fix it

stuck zenith
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ask the resource owner?

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this is spigot help

mellow dock
mortal robin
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github student developer pack

west cloak
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is there a plugin to teleport players to different overworlds?

verbal kernel
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I only regret that you can't buy domains thru CloudFlare

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you can only transfer it to them

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They have the cheapest prices.

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as they don't takes any additional fees

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So you only pay the same amount as they pay for a domain.

serene mica
ebon halo
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wouldn’t surprise me if they were all redirects to the same email

serene mica
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Because I emailed for help on a unban a year ago

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Still waiting for a response

ebon halo
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?support

keen crestBOT
ebon halo
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that’s what that command says for support

serene mica
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Hmmmm interesting

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Well thanks

verbal kernel
serene mica
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I mean I got the automated response and it made a help desk

verbal kernel
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Or they have received to many spam emails. As most of the spam bots will just send emails to support@domain

serene mica
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But after that nothing for a year

verbal kernel
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You should probably contact staff here.

serene mica
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Well I guess first I will try the email

verbal kernel
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Or you can wait for Choco to be online.

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He solve my problem in few minutes.

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As I didn't receive any response on their email as well.

serene mica
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Who is Choco?

verbal kernel
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Forums staff

serene mica
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Ah

verbal kernel
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man with a dog

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on the profile picture

keen hemlock
verbal kernel
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I have received like $40 000 coupon for AWS servers when I started a company. I still didn't used them.

north sandal
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can anybody help me?

west cloak
stuck zenith
west cloak
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k thx

ionic trail
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Hey guys

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Found guy that had duped items

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and this is what he had in inv

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how can i fix it?

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I use paper

runic rain
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Ah the ole book and quill character overload

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Privately for the server I work with, we wrote a script to patch out any books that insert character codepoints above 2048 and that catches most people doing it and we insta-ban them. I'd imagine there's probably a public plugin doing the same

ionic trail
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So they will be able to still dupe?

reef parcel
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dude you have gone to 3 different support discords, two of which for server software you are not using (to aventas)

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please, don't.

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go to purpur support, not spigot.

west cloak
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Hello,my start.bat is stuck at:
C:\Users\meliksah\Desktop\Serverim>java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar spigot-1.16.5.jar nogui
*** Error, this build is outdated ***
*** Please download a new build as per instructions from https://www.spigotmc.org/go/outdated-spigot ***
*** Server will start in 20 seconds ***
L

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Op,its fixed

reef parcel
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means what it says. You have an old version and it's just making you wait 20 seconds to tell you

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to "fix" that, update spigot.

urban mist
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or you can use the custom argument to skip the stage

reef parcel
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well yeah, but that's a super dumb "fix"

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I mean don't get me wrong, the whole waiting 20 seconds I wouldn't do, but not updating isn't a solution.

hallow rover
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^might as well just ignore the message

ionic trail
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Anyone know how to fix it? (Worldguard sometimes randomly stop and people can break)

stuck zenith
reef parcel
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report to gpflags, not paper or spigot

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or tuinity or purpur

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but please, use the correct support channels

short pewter
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hello I am writing with a translator. I have a problem with the plugin multivese-core. I created several worlds is it possible to set different rankings on each world?

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is it possible to set different rankings on each world?

mossy comet
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if you mean game modes like creative or survival i believe you can

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if you mean something like a group or server rank, i imagine there is some sort of per-world permissions manager out there

mellow dock
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LuckPerms supports that

short pewter
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I mean rank setting, eg that in the world called test a given player has .rank named [helper]. in the second world named, for example, test2 already has a rank named [player]

mossy comet
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ah, yep, LuckPerms is what you probably want

short pewter
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ok, thanks

west cloak
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Whats the best skyblock plugin that works in 1.16.5

tawdry narwhal
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@west cloak actually read it, your problem is easy. Run your config file through a yaml parser. There is a problem with your config file as it states and it is not formatted correctly. Yaml parser will help identify where that problem is at.

serene mica
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Already looks like it did

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The lobby section starting at line 16

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You sure thats the right file?

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The one you sent does not have the factions at line 24

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Was gonna say then ether your messing with me or that's the wrong error message xD

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That looks better

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Ok I see it

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You added a space in the factions: at line 24

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It should line up with survival:

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No problem

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Looks like one extra space

tawdry narwhal
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https://jsonformatter.org/yaml-parser
@west cloak that link if you toss the contents of a yaml file will parse it and if there is errors it will help you find where it is at

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for future reference when someone refers to a yaml parser that is what they mean

reef fjord
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whats the best way to back up a minecraft server network

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is it to copy+paste it into another locaiton?

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because im replacing the motherboard and cpu of my server

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and i need to backup the server

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is just copy+pasting it into another hard drive gonna work?

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or is there a more efficient way

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because i have all my folders with servers in 1 master folder

mellow dock
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I mean yes copying it will probably work

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It’s just files after all

serene mica
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Depends

mellow dock
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Of course that won’t back up any external databases

reef fjord
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yeah

serene mica
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If that drive is going to be plugged in forever then it will work yea

reef fjord
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how would i back up my MySQL database

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if i use XAMPP

serene mica
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You could also make a small script that would create a new backup every so often automatically

reef fjord
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wheres the best place to store backups?

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alternative hard drives?

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the cloud?

serene mica
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All of them

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The best way to have a good backup is to have as many as you can in different locations

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One on cloud

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One on a external drive somewhere else

reef fjord
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is onedrive good for cloud storage?

serene mica
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Just use whatever you feel conferrable with

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And what you trust

mellow dock
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"The 3-2-1 backup rule is a revered and time-honored backup strategy. ... The 3-2-1 backup strategy simply states that you should have 3 copies of your data (your production data and 2 backup copies) on two different media (disk and tape) with one copy off-site for disaster recovery."

west cloak
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can anyone help me in dms
I have to send pic

mellow dock
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Verify

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Or use imgur or whatever

pliant python
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What do I need to learn to make my own spigot plugins

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Can someone help me out

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I want to learn how to make custom enchant plugin

west cloak
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How to delete someones ip address from alt detector plugin?

tawdry narwhal
mellow dock
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Never hurts to be sure though

tawdry narwhal
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sure you could back it up, but in this case not even necessary

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Even if you want to re-install the OS, you could just hook the HDD up as an external

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super cheap to get a sata drive external adapter 😛

mellow dock
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What happens if I accidentally drop the cord for the drive onto the high voltage power line outside of town?

tawdry narwhal
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o.O uh....more likely it would still be usable, but if it isn't then get a new one XD

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need to touch more then one line for electricity to flow

mellow dock
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Maybe I'm just paranoid

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I haven't done much with PC hardware so I tend to think it's easier to break than it probably is

mellow dock
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You should probably ask the developer

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I assume it's stored in a file or database somewhere

heady pumice
# west cloak Answer?

if you live in eu/the server is hosted in eu, you can also file a gdpr compliant erasure request to the server that logged it

tawdry narwhal
west cloak
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Hi! I would like to know if someone can help me with a problem, I have a server where I use the LockLogin plugin, however, it has been disabled without knowing why, and I would like someone to teach me or help me to reactivate it :(

meager scaffold
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Forum staff or resource staff, really "we" need to fix this problem, just appears, when the server of mario091205 freezed, when that happen, just disable locklogin

lapis prawn
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Hello. This is probably a very stupid question, but I'll take my chances. So, I have a server with a map that I downloaded for the spawn. The problem is: that map starts to generate a lot of entities (not mobs, not drops) and as it's located in the spawn, it lags the whole server. I usually do /killall entities (from essentials) and it kills about 100000 entities. Is there anyway that I can stop the stop from generating those entities?

jovial mortar
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ok so i am using a fabric mod that is called cardboard and it allows me to use spigot plugins with a fabric server, but every time i try to open the crazy enchants gui i get this error

org.bukkit.command.CommandException: Cannot execute command 'crazyenchantments' in plugin CrazyEnchantments v1.8-Dev-Build-v9-RELEASE - plugin is disabled.
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can anybody help me

hallow rover
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No, this is spigot, not fabric. You really should be asking cardboard

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As they’re the ones that are trying to support something that spigot plugins don’t natively support

rocky sphinx
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Has anyone experienced or have a fix for all messages sent to players being decapitalised despite the plugin sending messages starting with capitals? We are using latest bungeecord build as proxy. It seems to be a proxy issue as proxy plugins are also affected.

languid maple
hallow rover
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wut

west cloak
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how do i portforverd bungeecord server

opal hull
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@west cloak For your question, you need to open the ports of all of the servers, including the bungee server

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do u know how to portforward?

west cloak
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yes

opal hull
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ok, so just open ports for all the servers

west cloak
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i want more than 10

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lobby

opal hull
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you need to change the port that the servers are running on in their configs

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they can't run on the same ports

west cloak
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in my router i cant open more than 10

opal hull
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default port is 25565

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oh, what's ur routher?

tawdry narwhal
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a better setup would be to use bungee so you would only need 1 port

west cloak
opal hull
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truuuuee

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i forgot about that

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@tawdry narwhal

tawdry narwhal
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on that page you can try to use the program called beacon

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which does it for you

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otherwise best recommendation is go watch a youtube video on port forwarding

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people really need to learn how to search these things up if they are going to be running public servers -.-

west cloak
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ok

distant spade
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Are seeds of 3 dimensions different in spigot

west cloak
mellow dock
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I mean it has been 3+ years

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But I don’t think routers have been reinvented in that time

tawdry narwhal
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outdated in what way?

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port forwarding hasn't changed o.O

mellow dock
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We’ve moved to ipv6

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Wait nope, still haven’t

tawdry narwhal
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typically don't port forward on ipv6 due to the nature of ipv6

mellow dock
#

I mean we’re supposed to switch over to it entirely one day

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Aren’t we

tawdry narwhal
#

yes, but you don't port forward on ipv6 because the way it was designed was that there is enough ip addresses in there to give everyone a block for some trillion ip's and they are all supposed to be publicly accessible

mellow dock
#

I see

tawdry narwhal
#

the reason you have to port forward for ipv4 is because NAT resolved the issue of running out of ipv4's too quickly

mellow dock
#

I figured it was just a security thing

tawdry narwhal
#

however, ipv6 being publicly accessible doesn't work for some corporations so there is DHCP for ipv6 and what not, so you could need to port forward for ipv6 just depends on your setup really

mellow dock
#

Maybe I should invest some time into networking

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It’s never been my thing

tawdry narwhal
#

even if isn't your thing, comes in handy for many things

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you don't need to learn advanced stuff either

mellow dock
#

Yeah I had some bad profs for the few networking classes I did have

tawdry narwhal
#

but yeah NAT wasn't originally for security

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it was just coincidental that it doubled for that

#

NAT was for the purpose of being able to use 1 public IP for many private systems and then let the router hand out its own IP's for internal use

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The exhaustion of IPV4 was known since the 80's

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NAT allowed that exhaustion of ipv4 to be extended out further

mellow dock
#

Why is the switch to ipv6 being avoided?

tawdry narwhal
#

because ever since NAT came out, many devices adopted it. And because it took so much time to come out with IPV6, everything relied and incorporated NAT. So, now literally almost every network device from border gateways to back end routers needed to be upgraded to handle IPV6 because the hardware didn't allow for upgrading to IPV6 due to memory constraints

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this is actually an expensive thing to do, if you have literally 2k devices that need to be upgraded

fringe valve
#

I have a gui that i want to have a button to have a potion bag for people what would be a good plugin to allow a player to have there own personal potion bag thats not a physical item

mellow dock
#

I see

tawdry narwhal
#

Some services are incapable of using IPV6 due to the OS being so old but relied on due to legacy stuff etc

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however, adoption of IPV6 is now speeding up so its a non-issue now

#

mainly because IPV4 blocks have been exhausted for years

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So you know, not much choice to get an IPV6 unless you want to rent a block from someone at insane prices XD

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IANA and RIPE have no more IPV4 blocks to give out

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think ARIN ran out too

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IPV4 is still fine to use internally as well

#

really should only care about IPV6 for public access

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The other reason adoption of IPV6 took so long was also because of how long it took to release IPV6

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there was no reason for it take as long as it did

west cloak
#

You can't detect what key a player presses @fringe valve so none

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OH

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nvm

#

Ignore my stupidity, I'm going to bed

fringe valve
#

xD

real vine
#

Is there any plugin that is a chest shop plugin, but item currency

Specifically something you can specify what's being taken in for item and out

mellow dock
#

I think QuickShop can do that

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I’ve never tried

ionic trail
#

Guys, is there someone that can help me? I got bungeeguard on both bungee, etc... every day someone logs, worldguard and coreprotects stops after him logging on (he logs as non op) then the things shut down and when he is logging of he is OP ... also no freaking log of he did something..

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Like there is nothing about him getting op

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in log

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Also, he logged trough lobby, commands block are false and no one with permissions logged on server so he couldnt got op by this also.. nothing in log

winged spear
#

Anybody knows how to log all commands from RCON?

tawdry narwhal
#

odds are you have a malicious plugin

reef fjord
#

whats a reasonable tps to get down to

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if 2 admins are flying at speed 10

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loading new chunks

reef fjord
#

anyone?

tawdry narwhal
#

that is pretty fast, it is dependent on your hardware really

reef fjord
#

what would be a reasonable tps

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if your hardware was average

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@tawdry narwhal

signal ivy
#

tps would still stay at 20 unless you had dog shit hardware

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mspt would go up

junior cliff
#

Hey guys - I have the same problem many have which is that my Server is showing "If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your BungeeCord config as well!":
So I cant connect to my server currently. I looked up here and googeld to check for results but I could just find the one saying "go to your bungeecord config.yml and change it".
Problem is: theres none. I have only 2 config files which are for IPwhitelist and Pluginmetrics. Bungeecord = true is setted in the spigot config. I installed via Multicraft and chose "Auto-Updating Spigot Latest (Current: 1.16.5)". Any Ideas?

signal ivy
#

Do what it says to do?

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enable ip forwarding

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?services

keen crestBOT
junior cliff
signal ivy
#

there is a bungee config

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inside the bungee folder

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how are you even adding servers to the proxy if you don't know there is a config file?

junior cliff
#

It neither shows me a bungee folder, nor a config.yml other than the two stated

signal ivy
reef fjord
#

@signal ivy i have a ryzen 5 3600 and 10gb of ram on that server

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and it goes down like to 16 tps if we are at speed 10 loading in new chunks

signal ivy
#

maybe try tu inity as it has starlight so it would help with chunk generation

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You should not have any tps drop though

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maybe send timings

reef fjord
#

oh yeah

#

whats timings

#

someone told me about that

signal ivy
#

do /timings on

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wait a few minutes then send

junior cliff
reef fjord
#

wait a few minutes

signal ivy
#

you need a bungee jar also?

reef fjord
#

do i just sit there?

#

or do i load chunks

signal ivy
#

bungee is not included in the spigot.jar

#

you need at least two server instances for a bungee server

junior cliff
reef fjord
#

do i just sit there?
or do i load chunks

signal ivy
#

you can use spigot

#

you cant use bungee

junior cliff
#

🤷‍♂️

signal ivy
#

disable bungee in spigot.yml

junior cliff
#

kk let me try

signal ivy
reef fjord
#

i generated timings report

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by doing /timings paste

signal ivy
#

doesnt spigot disable async chunk generation?

reef fjord
#

im using paper

signal ivy
#

not sure but I think it does

#

oh

reef fjord
#

do i send you the link

#

or

signal ivy
#

sure

reef fjord
#

also was i meant to just stay still

#

or was i meant to lag the server

#

when generating timings

#

?

#

i use Terra as a world gen plugin

#

idk if that makes a difference

tawdry narwhal
lapis prawn
# languid maple what entnties are spawning?

I don't know. There aren't mobs cause I have world guard in that area. But in 10 minutes it generates like 10000 entities. I tried to check it with espectator and I didn't find anything

finite marlin
#

Servers that have special perks etc in their lobby do they affect regular servers outside of lobby?

west cloak
#

Does anyone know the cause of this crash report?


java.lang.NullPointerException: Exception ticking world
    at it.unimi.dsi.fastutil.longs.Long2ObjectOpenHashMap$MapIterator.nextEntry(Long2ObjectOpenHashMap.java:629)
    at it.unimi.dsi.fastutil.longs.Long2ObjectOpenHashMap$ValueIterator.next(Long2ObjectOpenHashMap.java:883)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.CraftWorld.processChunkGC(CraftWorld.java:1475)
    at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.WorldServer.doTick(WorldServer.java:283)
    at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.B(MinecraftServer.java:905)
    at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.DedicatedServer.B(DedicatedServer.java:891)
    at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.A(MinecraftServer.java:785)
    at net.minecraft.server.v1_8_R3.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:684)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)```
stuck zenith
#

1.8

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tacospigot

#

no, just no

#

run latest on a proper implementation

west cloak
#

When we have a jar for 1.8? That performs better than latest?

stuck zenith
#

thats like saying "i run windows xp because its faster than windows 10"

#

stupid and dumb

novel vessel
#

let them run 1.8

west cloak
#

Hi where Is Timings bot?

stuck zenith
#

timings bot?

#

so that bs bot that tells you to copy paste stuff and advertises a host

stuck zenith
stuck zenith
#

not here

west cloak
#

The bot that tells you what to improve

stuck zenith
#

no it doesent

#

it gives you values that fit their certain host

short pewter
#

is it possible to define a version for the server? My point is: one of the worlds has version 1.16.5 and can you lock the version of players who are on a lower version of the Minecraft client so that they can only enter from client version 1.16.5 to this one of the worlds?

brave summit
#

If I buy a plugin and it doesn't work what do I do?

thorny steeple
thorny steeple
#

so, it's a problem from 1.8 or is that you telling me to not use a old version?

stuck zenith
#

both

thorny steeple
#

f

#

too bad that there is no factions from 1.8 and up

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👍

stuck zenith
#

there is. im working on a 1.16 factions server right now

thorny steeple
#

no cannons?

stuck zenith
#

wdym

thorny steeple
#

i can't imagine cannons working well on 1.16

stuck zenith
broken moss
#

How I set firewall on dedicated server and add minecraft servers to firewall?

#

Guys

short pewter
#

I have a problem, I have 3 test worlds, but if I destroy a block in a world named test1 and teleport to another world named test2, I still have that block in eqwipunk. Can I rule out the possibility of transferring items in players' inventories between worlds?

quaint canopy
#

Anyone know a skyblock pet plug-in?

reef fjord
#

what are optimal JVM flags

#

are JVM flags like -Xmx or -Xms

#

my bat file to start my server is

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java -Xmx10G -Xms10G -jar server.jar nogui

mellow kraken
#

Does anyone know why arrows, enderpeals and netherstars arent proppeled by tnt on my 1.12 server? is it a spigot bug or a config thing?

tawdry narwhal
#

so yes, your problem is the fact that GC is killing your TPS. Resolvable with better flags for the JVM

reef fjord
#

is this what u mean

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java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui

tawdry narwhal
#

yes

reef fjord
#

so i just use that

tawdry narwhal
#

yes, and possibly reduce the ram for the server. Most of the time don't need 10GB

reef fjord
#

ill do 8GB

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cuz its survival

tawdry narwhal
#

If you get out of memory errors then I would recommend bumping it slightly. 10GB of ram for the server and decent server specs you can easily handle 100+ players

muted vale
#

hey guys, is it possible to create a Fish entity in 1.7.10?

tawdry narwhal
#

no

reef fjord
#

yeah is a ryzen 5 3600 (with 1 core and 2 threads allocated for the server) good?

#

along with like 10GB of ram

tawdry narwhal
#

I am not familiar with Ryzens. But would recommend a multi-core cpu though

reef fjord
#

yeah

#

its 6 cores

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12 threads

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3.6GHz

#

and i think 4.4GHz when overclocked

tawdry narwhal
#

Nice, so it should do just fine then

mellow kraken
#

when your questions doesn't get answered ;-;

reef fjord
#

o yea btw

#

are the only things i change in that JVM thingy

#

the Xms and Xmx

#

and the .jar file name?

tawdry narwhal
#

or enderpearls o.O

mellow kraken
#

because its vanilla behavour thats why

#

and spigot is supposed to be vanilla, or as close as possible with the right settings

tawdry narwhal
muted vale
#

sorry if you codr anything that resembles vanilla code thats transformative and we wjll have to sue you @mellow kraken

reef fjord
#

i have no idea what any of the other stuff means

#

so yeah

mellow kraken
#

tnt not propelling certain enties is a spigot problem, i didnt cause this

tawdry narwhal
# mellow kraken because its vanilla behavour thats why

I doubt it is a bug and just could be due to how spigot must hook in for things. It is also possible you have a plugin interfering though. Have you tested it on a spigot server without plugins to see if it is the same?

mellow kraken
#

thats higly unlikely

tawdry narwhal
#

also have to remember TnT was changed in regards to propelling stuff. So TnT cannons for instance in 1.8 generally don't work in 1.12 and will require tweaking.

mellow kraken
#

i am aware dw

tawdry narwhal
#

So try testing it with no plugins on the server and see if it that is the problem, also might be worth checking the spigot.yml to see if there is any options in there that could be interfering.

#

While spigot aims to not change vanilla mechanics, in some cases this can't be helped.

reef fjord
#

also would terra slow down new chunk generation

#

or no

tawdry narwhal
#

terra?

reef fjord
#

its a custom world-gen plugin

tawdry narwhal
#

It could yes, depends how optimal the plugin is really

reef fjord
#

ok this JVM thing fixed my chunk loading issue

mellow kraken
#

you would have to ask the devloper of the specific pluggin, why would the spigot people know

reef fjord
#

idk

#

but

#

it got down to like 13 tps when i was speed 10 loading chunks

#

now it goes down to like 19.99

tawdry narwhal
#

unfortunately, while there is some great plugins out there, unfortunately not everyone is skilled enough to ensure their plugins are optimal code wise.

tawny pawn
#

i feel attacked

tawdry narwhal
reef fjord
#

yeah

#

so the JVM things fixed it

#

somehow

#

idk

tawdry narwhal
#

Yes, because it was GC that was your problem

#

the flags I told you to search up, tailors the GC to not cause as much problems

reef fjord
#

should i use it on all of my servers?

#

non-survival

tawdry narwhal
#

ideally yes

reef fjord
#

cuz my lobby sometimes crashes for GC Overhead something

#

but i havent seen that yet with my new cpu

tawdry narwhal
#

Aikar has done extensive research of those flags and those are the best to use in a general use case.

#

If you need them to be more tailored you will have to take it upon yourself to do your own profiling of your servers so you know what needs to be changed possibly and where the issue lies

tawny pawn
#

i still think all those flags aren't going to give you that big of a change

reef fjord
#

idk

#

seems to me like it did

tawny pawn
#

i still think it'll depend to the plugins

#

to make a difference

tawdry narwhal
reef fjord
#

well considering i used to have long errors saying the server hasn't responded for 10 seconds

#

and sometimes even a crash

#

before these flags

tawdry narwhal
#

once you have the GC setup to not do stop the world GC's as often if at all, then the next thing is going to be plugins

tawny pawn
#

i hate minecraft for just creating objects just to throw them

#

this is a problem they created

tawdry narwhal
tawny pawn
#

it feels weird anyway

#

creating objects isn't cheap

tawdry narwhal
#

Probably because memory management isn't left to the developer to handle rather on the JVM and the server operator to tailor

reef fjord
#

oh yeah

tawdry narwhal
#

where as in other OOP languages it is on the developer to manage memory

#

I should say Garbage collection for Memory

reef fjord
#

when i do MinecraftServer.getServer().recentTps[0] why does it sometimes return a number like 21 or 22

#

i guess this is a development question

tawny pawn
#

as in the c++ oop?

#

yeah, i saw it

tawdry narwhal
#

C++ or even C#

tawny pawn
#

wait

#

c# has no gc?

neat umbra
#

pretty sure all languages have some

tawdry narwhal
#

It does, but it doesn't take it over from the developer if they choose to handle it themselves

tawny pawn
#

the only one i know for c++ is when you close an app

#

but that's more of an unlocking to the memory adresses

tawdry narwhal
#

C++ has no garbage collection, and is left to the developer to implement and manage themselves

tawdry narwhal
#

C++ apps it isn't uncommon to find a memory leak because of it being left to the developer to handle. Most people are not super great at C++ and thus fairly easy to forget that you didn't release resources you were done with somewhere

tawny pawn
#

not knowing how to use pointers

#

is one of the greatest issue in c++

tawdry narwhal
#

yep

tawny pawn
#

which is cool

#

they added smart pointers

#

that know how many references are present

tawdry narwhal
#

So memory management being weird in Java, is more because it is the only language I know of that removes any control over GC and then best you can do in most circumstances is to encourage GC and optimal GC is to null out some objects you are done with.

#

so that while its waiting on being GC'ed it isn't taking up much space at the same time

#

as well as no references being tied to them

tawny pawn
#

it takes less cycles yes

tawdry narwhal
#

I probably wouldn't have made MC in Java server wise, but at the same time it is actually a decent language to get people to make plugins more easily as well as it being far easier to verify if it has malicious code or not. Since most people have a hard time with ASM which is the only way to verify native applications

#

native applications you have to isolate so you can monitor what it is doing, as well as do some memory dumps to see what it possibly might be doing as well. And the when you decompile a native application you only get limited information since it will never decompile to even half the source XD

tawny pawn
#

unless they can give us a java api front end

#

to mod

tawdry narwhal
#

switching from native code to java is an expensive operation though

#

and until that can be made not so expensive, it isn't really an ideal thing

tawny pawn
#

i didn't knew that

#

i see the math class

#

and those were native

#

i guess they are different

tawdry narwhal
#

anytime you want to execute java code, you would have to spin up the Java JVM unless you are going to interpret the byte code yourself

#

And then from Java side, to execute native code have to make use of JNI, and the context switching is not great

tawny pawn
#

i guess that's why it's lua

tawdry narwhal
#

the way Java makes it not an expensive call to some native code is that the JVM has to be coded to handle that

#

so Math classes for instance is super easy to code into the JVM to make the calls for that more native then anything, its when you start getting into libraries made by other people that it becomes a problem

reef fjord
#

does anyone here know anything about votifier

#

because i have 1 server that is listening to port 8192

#

and another that is listening to the same port

#

but it wont bind to that port

#

so i have to use the same port

neat umbra
#

usually bungee handles that

#

you cant rly use the same votifier on 2 different servers

reef fjord
#

wait there is votifier for bungeecord?

neat umbra
#

there should be a config to enable bungee

reef fjord
#

there is no bungee

#

option

neat umbra
#

ur using

#

NuVotifier right

#

if yes check the guide here

reef fjord
#

yeah

#

i am

#

its fine now

#

i did it

finite glen
#

How to load papi ?

#

?

novel vessel
finite glen
#

Idk

#

But what’s the command

#

To load a api

novel vessel
#

/papi?

finite glen
#

And then ?

#

/papi load not working

novel vessel
#

what happens when you type /papi

finite glen
#

I can fill in more arguments

novel vessel
#

so it’s working?

finite glen
#

Yes

#

But how do I load one ?

novel vessel
#

they should be loaded but you can do /papi ecloud to get other ones

finite glen
#

Okay

#

I’ll try

#

And what do I do when I type papi eclipse ?

#

Ecloud*

novel vessel
finite glen
#

I can’t find lol

novel vessel
finite glen
#

i try something

#

and now it says there is no expansion

novel vessel
#

ok what did you try

finite glen
#

/papi ecloud placeholders PrisonTokens

novel vessel
#

try /papi ecloud download PrisonTokens

#

i think it’s something like that

finite glen
#

okay

#

failed to find expansion

novel vessel
#

what plugin are you using

finite glen
#

is this a problem ?

#

prisontokens

novel vessel
#

link me the plugin

#

and yea, errors are not typically a good thing

finite glen
#

or from site ?

novel vessel
#

from site

#

a link

finite glen
novel vessel
finite glen
#

no where thats why i asked if it could be added

#

but how ?

#

or do you have to code that

novel vessel
#

jesus

#

yes you’d have to code that

#

i also recommend not using that plugin

#

what version is your server

finite glen
#

witch one do you recommen to me

#

1.8.8

#

fuck man i cant code

novel vessel
#

i don’t recommend any just not that one

finite glen
#

why not ?

#

i cant find a other plugin that works

novel vessel
#

it has 2 3 star reviews both saying a part of it doesn’t work

#

learn how to code

finite glen
#

to hard

#

am only 13

novel vessel
#

if you’re smart you’ll be able to code a plugin like that in a couple weeks

finite glen
#

how old are you if i can ask ?

novel vessel
#

18

finite glen
#

and you can code i gues

novel vessel
#

yes

finite glen
#

would you please please do me a favour ?

#

and code a api in it for me

#

or is it hard hard ?

novel vessel
#

it’s not hard but why would i do it for free

finite glen
#

idk i cant pay

#

but am good in building

#

need some ?

novel vessel
#

no

finite glen
#

or do you have a mc server ?

novel vessel
#

use a different plugin

finite glen
#

like ?

#

tokens plugin wont work idk why

novel vessel
#

find one

finite glen
#

i cant

#

there only 3 registerd bye api

#

and that 3 wont work

novel vessel
#

learn to code and do it yourself

finite glen
#

yous sure you dont wanne do it for me please

novel vessel
#

pretty sure yeah

finite glen
#

:/

#

okay

#

so where do i start

#

learning code

novel vessel
#

google

finite glen
#

hwo did you learn

#

you have any good sites ?

novel vessel
#

it

#

google

finite glen
#

what do i google if i wanne add a api how to code api in plugin ?

#

like that

novel vessel
#

learn java fundamentals

#

then bukkit/spigot api

finite glen
#

k what is i

novel vessel
#

what

finite glen
#

fundamentals

soft sleet
#

How do i install spigot on a server hosting service? I'm using heavynode

mortal robin
#

Ask the host

#

I’d think they’d be able to tell you 💯

quaint canopy
hasty brook
#

can anyone send me a link to download normal spigot and not build tools

reef parcel
#

That's not legal. You must use buildtools

tired hamlet
#

do you think there's no official spigot download for no reason

#

🤔

hasty brook
#

no need to be a fucking dick about it

tired hamlet
#

lol I wasn't being one but whatever floats your boat bud

keen hemlock
#

I hate when people say bud or buddy

signal ivy
#

okay bud

hallow rover
#

You’d hate New England

keen hemlock
#

I live in new england

#

In the heart of it I would say

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Ppl from down south usually say that

signal ivy
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eh

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Rednecks yeah

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other than that no

keen hemlock
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I live in boston lmao @hallow rover

radiant oriole
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This might be a strange question, but I'm trying to make a server hosted off of my pc with port-forwarding and when I go to open the "server" java application for the first time I can see a window pop up for a second and then close. Any way to fix this?

signal ivy
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why 1.9?

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So weird new combat on the oldest version

keen hemlock
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And tell us what the output is

keen hemlock
radiant oriole
keen hemlock
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Yes

radiant oriole
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ok

keen hemlock
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Also, search up a tutorial

radiant oriole
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I did

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sort of

keen hemlock
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You have to change false to true in eula.txt

keen hemlock
radiant oriole
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I don't have a eula.txt yet that's my issue

keen hemlock
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What does the console say

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Typing without haptics feels so wierd

radiant oriole
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It says it's unable to access the jar file

keen hemlock
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?paste

keen crestBOT
keen hemlock
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Paste the whole thing there

radiant oriole
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The command prompt message?

fathom axle
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What plugins like to kick people out of the server when they join with proxy?

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I have disabled the 2 main ones

keen hemlock
fathom axle
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I have a bungee server players will try to join and it just kicks them to hub

radiant oriole
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`Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19042.928]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users--->java -jar server.jar
Error: Unable to access jarfile server.jar`

keen hemlock
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Are you in the correct directory?

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Cuz that's a weird file path

radiant oriole
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the dashes are where I didn't want to put my username if that's what you mean

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but other than that I have no idea

keen hemlock
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Still a wierd directory

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Anyways

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Is these server jar in the same path?

radiant oriole
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I just have a server.jar file in a folder called MinecraftServer

fathom axle
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The server you were previously on went down. you have been connected to a fall back server

vestal marsh
blissful quail
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Update worldedit

vestal marsh
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I need vault don't I 🤦

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I just got the latest version

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Brand spankin new server

blissful quail
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Well worldedit isn't able to access a reflection class... so either spigot is missing the class or worldedit is on the wrong version.

vagrant hollow
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@vestal marsh I recommend install Fawe

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👌

vestal marsh
blissful quail
vagrant hollow
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Well, first of all I recommend FAWE as it has a better performance than WorldEdit

(It's addon)

blissful quail
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The addon isn't supported anymore if I recall correctly.

stuck zenith
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i recommend AWE since its less buggy than FAWE

west cloak
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i am geting bungee cord error

stuck zenith
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maybe show it to us then?

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the entire log please

weary citrus
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Is it possible to change your username on Spigot?

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And at that--is there a dark theme?

stuck zenith
weary citrus
stuck zenith
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not sure, never needed to change it

mental scaffold
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How can I delete my account because I want to create a new one?

glacial sundial
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Not allowed

mental scaffold
short pewter
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can a separate number of slots be defined for a given world?

pseudo scaffold
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is there a plugin that can block crafting recipes? (im using a custom item (that is an iron nugget) and i dont want it to be able to craft into anything)

short pewter
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if that's what it is

pseudo scaffold
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how would that help

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doesnt that just not send advancements in chat

celest ivy
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lol I don't think that's what you're looking for

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just out of curiosity, what is the nugget being used for instead?

short pewter
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I am writing with a translator, not everything is translated as I write / speak ¯_(ツ)_/¯

pseudo scaffold
celest ivy
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ahh well it would be a pretty simple plugin to whip up, but seeing as we're in #help-server , can I recommend trying turtle scutes instead? I had a similar server where I needed an "oxygen packet" item that was already in the game, so I repurposed those.

pseudo scaffold
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couldnt you just craft turtle scutes into turle caps?

celest ivy
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😄 I ended up making turtle caps an oxygen device

I unfortunately don't know of any plugins that disable specific recipes

idle yew
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How could I make my server start with java version 16 instead of an earlier version

heady pumice
idle yew
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I have direct access to it

open wedge
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I ssh into my server

cursive mortar
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how do I use rcon? I.e. remotely access the console from my desktop or laptop. Also the host's console is laggy and has a timeout so alternative remote consoles would be nice

keen hemlock
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The same place as the server jar

keen hemlock
idle yew
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How can I either upgrade my Servers java version or downgrade the one my system compiles with because the logs shows that a plugin I made is compiled with java 58.0 while the server is 52.0

keen hemlock
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What does java --version say when you run it in the console

cursive mortar
keen hemlock
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Or cmd if that's how I call it

cursive mortar
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how do I check if it has ssh stuff

keen hemlock
idle yew
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This is using a single dash because using a double dash causes an error:

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_281-b09)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.281-b09, mixed mode)```
keen hemlock
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Oh

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Ok

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That seems to be intact

cursive mortar
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yeah nothing on SSH

keen hemlock
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Do you use maven or Gradle for your plugin?

idle yew
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maven

cursive mortar
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cant I generate ssh public/private keys myself or nah

keen hemlock
timber ingot
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can some1 help me rq

cursive mortar