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i personally would never make a plugin for bukkit but thats just me
lmao what if someone submitted a plugin thats for paper to spigot
It would be removed if reported
but nobody uses spigot so who would ever find out
wait ur telling me resource staff doesnt even download the plugin on spigot 
I mean optic downloads them all
But do you really think the staff have time to download and run every plugin
no need to ur mind is already ruined
shes using geadle
Why did you say the thing with maven then
bc its true
But shes no maven user then
the statement is still true
The only problems i wver had with a build tool were with gradle
Wait what are you talking about
I’m already using gradle
insert xpdz “is this ragebait” gif
I KNOW??
bestie I’m sorry. I’m falling asleep on my phone in bed rn

I just downloaded Bungeecord #1984 which should have 1.21.7 support according to the changelog. But when looking in the server list with a vanilla 1.21.7 client it says the server is outdated, and i am unable to connect to it. What am i missing?
omg ur the developer of Anvil??>!?
works fine for me, make sure you actually updated
what version does the bungee command say?
[INFO] Enabled BungeeCord version git:BungeeCord-Bootstrap:1.21-R0.4-SNAPSHOT:88436c4:1983
But i just re-downloaded 1984? (and my old version was way older)
Yes, that is the one i downloaded
nope
you downloaded the wrong version
if i run /bungee i get 84
16:46:30 [INFORMATION] This server is running BungeeCord version git:BungeeCord-Bootstrap:1.21-R0.4-SNAPSHOT:7c7cb3d:1984 by md_5
that is what i thought first aswell, but i already redownloaded it twice... idk where it goes wrong 😦 ill take a look at it later again
Hmm, i see the file i get when using https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/bootstrap/target/BungeeCord.jar is different (also in size) from when i use https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/1984/artifact/bootstrap/target/BungeeCord.jar
The direct link to 1984 works correct indeed, thanks!
I dont know if its a derp in my browser or that the link on the website isnt updated yet (maybe takes some more time?) but the direct link was the solution
your welcome
i need help from someone to help me setup a phoenix crates plugin
i need someone to tell me on how to add a reward
Caan you dm
Alr
or yk
visit their wiki
looks pretty good
what is poi
do you really think spigot staff gets paid
yeah do they not
i heard its like 70k-90k depending on your experience
lemme check paypal rq lol
80% chance he doesn't
Exactly $279.27
What little money I do earn comes from the rare premium plugin purchase.
No volunteering for spigotmc, nor donations, fiverr, etc
No. We're all volunteers
And that's your savings over the last few what, 6 months?
I get profit share from a decent plugin on BBB and over the past 3 months it's paid me maybe 200$
I don't get many buyers lol
i need to turn my phone back on, but i can get ya how much I earned this month lol
no need just had to prove a point
yall gotta be trolling
what sane person would think
spigot staff
that gets a 10$ donation per year
gets paid 70k 😭
We get $0 from spigot lol
damn i wrote on my donation i wanted md5 to get all the profit
tuff
or was that another site 💀
damn nvm
$30.12 earned for the entire month. Doesn't even cover my phone plan
0.38 of that was from paypal's cashback
May was $29.9
If I made that much I wouldn't be struggling lmfao
do u have proof htat u dont get that much
We're unpaid volunteers. You can ask md yourself lmfao
what if he is lying
Hey so I've been running a server by starting it with a start.bat for a while now and it opens a cmd with the server console but I'm wondering how I can get the old server console that comes up when you run the server jar itself that has a graph of memory usage and displays the player list and all of that jazz
If you skip the nogui flag on the command it should open
Nah just double click the jar you don't need start.bat
Although I don't think you can set flags that way
If you want both then skip nogui flag and run the bat file
I'm using a paper jar and that doesn't work
Does this consime more resources?
no?
ok
its just 2 consoles running though
Thanks
Why minecraft is not gonna fix their pvp
I need 1.8 pvp mechanics
Even Hypixel is still on 1.8
1.8 is legacy
noone really wants to use it
hypixel is not on 1.8 anymore. they have the latest version but its their own modified jar
with building your own jar you can customize the mechanics
What's wrong with PvP
Its just me old guy complaining sorry xd
I wanted a server with the 1.8 pvp mechanics but I dont know if I could use a newer version
But I see Hypixel is migrating to 1.21.5
becos it aint broke 🤨
OldCombatMechanics i think
i made 1.8 pvp exact replicate on newest version
and u can remove client effect with a texturepack
They aren’t going to fix something that isn’t a bug to them.
New pvp mechanics like draw speed and cooldown actually make sense when you consider the pve aspect of Minecraft
Hey hello. Quick question when I run java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev latest it builds 1.21.5 and not 1.21.7 .. is that expected?
Latest = latest stable
ahh ok
I have a (github) workflow that builds a docker image .. I am thinking of just adding a build step that does a directory listing on https://hub.spigotmc.org/versions/ to find the latest 1.21.x version from there then.
Hm will GitHub DMCA me if I publish my images to GHCR?
There’s quite a ton of content worse than that on GitHub which even if reported they still give trouble bothering to take something down
No custom recipe's are working at all.
From what plugin
RecyclerPlus, and MobsToEggs
It appears that time has fixed mobs to eggs, but still no luck on recycleplus
I cant send photo's to show what the issue necessarily looks like.
I just wish I knew how to fix it. Its stressful not to have everything in working order.
Can you report it to their plugin authors please?
I am trying to. 😦
Despite being a "Premium" plugin, getting a hold of this guy is like pulling teeth
i swear we ought to change this
Is it offensive to ask: Do all of my spigot plug ins work on "paper"?
They should
But since paper has hard forked from spigot, theres no absolute guarantee
But it’s a 99.9% chance they will work
Hive checker and Ultimate Chairs seem to have broken, while Harvest EXP, Mobs to Eggs, Recycle Plus, Tree Feller, and Silk Spawners seem to be ok.
Just check it, things from 1.21.smth aren't synched
if you're using paper, then you're better off getting your plugins from hangar anyway
yo can some1 do me a favor? i need someone to run a server with the plugin SuperiorSkyblock and after the server runs successfully, u zip the libraries folder and send it 2 me. i live in iran and the shitty internet situation wont let me download no shit
hey guys how do i remove the moved too quickly thing that teleports the player back? this server is only for me and no one else will be joining it i have whitelist and everything setup so security risks are not my issue
[10:26:07] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 8.919297794616952,0.0,-5.2856600437194174
[10:26:07] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 11.324619110410367,0.0,-4.116455337858952
[10:26:07] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 11.169644483421209,0.0,-4.6479608996965
[10:26:07] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 11.169644483421209,0.0,-4.6479608996965
[10:26:12] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.159706938490544,0.0,-0.8492912998472093
[10:26:12] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.161360729709358,0.0,-0.8495322790490718
[10:26:12] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.161360729709372,0.0,-0.8495322790490718
[10:26:12] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.161360729709372,0.0,-0.8495322790490718
[10:26:13] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 6.97464977216859,0.0,-7.417518960762436
[10:26:13] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.22414537167424,0.0,-1.7593419700158393
[10:26:13] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.161360729709372,0.0,-0.8495322790490718
[10:26:13] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.161360729709372,0.0,-0.8495322790490718
[10:26:14] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.363821397405559,0.0,-1.4714619931426114
[10:26:14] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.026292830032673,0.0,-1.8350535523500184
[10:26:14] [Server thread/WARN]: Ali_Danger moved too quickly! 10.012159909649256,0.0,-1.9317372096543295
Hello Bro!
I'm from East Java, Indonesia, and I'm planning to build a big Minecraft server project. The theme is Roleplay, similar to GTA RP. I'm looking for developers who can create various plugins for the server.
Specifically, I need plugins related to:
3D models
Player animations
Custom GUI interfaces
Custom emotes
Custom vehicle plugins
And many other plugins to support the roleplay experience
If there's anyone here who can help with plugin development—especially those skilled in 3D, animation, UI, and custom vehicles—I’d love to work with you! Since I'm planning to order many plugins, I hope the pricing can be affordable. I'm from Indonesia, so when converted to our currency, USD becomes quite expensive for us. 😅
Thanks in advance!
Careful with guns nowadays apparently mojabg will come for u
?services
If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/
Anyway
whats that plugins that if i move my mouse to server player counts shows me infos and links? Minimotd just have motd
Hi, Its possible to make name tag above the player and name in tab hex colored? I have tried with TAB, but it will always try to find most accurate MC color.
name in tab yes, name above the head no
its possible to even code it? I would asume no for that one as well
you cant modify the name color of the player name above the players head to something different than the default colors as far as i know
thats sad, but ty
yes it is, the reason for this is in the minecraft networking, the players name will be displayed in the teams color, and thats an Enum and not a string
Yo
Guys
I used multiverse to create another world, for my spawn so players dont see it from outside but now, when rtping players cant rtp to the world and it just says couldnt find a safe spot
Any fix?
does the latest bungeecord from june 30 work with 1.21.6?
Yes
- updated server jar to 1.21.6 (was on 1.20.4)
- ran the server for a sec, realized i would have to update plugins like citizens too and didnt have time for it
- downgraded it to 1.20.4
- tried running it and it kept crashing because of corrupt chunks or something
- updated bungee to latest and mc to 1.21.6 and all the plugins that needed to
- now the server is running, but when players try to join it, it says this in console
[16:26:17 INFO]: UUID of player luckyc is 29fb65fa-d282-36d5-acb1-c35893f10c7d
[16:26:18 INFO]: luckyc (/192.168.0.1:41658) lost connection: Internal Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: void future
[16:26:18 INFO]: UUID of player luckyc is 29fb65fa-d282-36d5-acb1-c35893f10c7d
[16:26:18 INFO]: luckyc (/192.168.0.1:41660) lost connection: Internal Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: void future
heres ver:
[16:26:24 INFO]: This server is running Paper version 1.21.6-48-main@4d854e6 (2025-06-30T09:48:37Z) (Implementing API version 1.21.6-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)
You are running the latest version
Previous version: 1.21.6-47-57c202e (MC: 1.21.6)
Do you have PacketEvents installed?
dont think so
Go through all of your plugins and make sure you're up to date
One of those is outdated
k
@tawny dust do u think its this?
and later it says
[17:03:35 INFO]: [ProtocolLib] Enabling ProtocolLib v5.3.0
[17:03:35 ERROR]: ******************************************************
[17:03:35 ERROR]: *** ProtocolLib does not support plugin reloaders! ***
[17:03:35 ERROR]: *** Please use the built-in reload command! ***
[17:03:35 ERROR]: ******************************************************
[17:03:35 INFO]: [ProtocolLib] Disabling ProtocolLib v5.3.0
Yeah that version of ProtocolLib is quite old
oh wait theres a new protocollib ver for 1.21.6 i just saw
it was on the jenkins not the spigot
@tawny dust wait i guess i am using packetevents it just wasnt listed in the plugins
[17:08:21 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Enabling AntiCrasher v2.0.5
[17:08:21 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Enabling AntiCrasher...
[17:08:21 INFO]: [packetevents] Checking for updates, please wait...
[17:08:21 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Initialising Metrics.
[17:08:22 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] [Services] [UpdateChecker] Loaded in 0ms.
[17:08:22 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] [Services] [CheckManager] Loaded in 3ms.
[17:08:22 INFO]: [packetevents] You are running the latest release of PacketEvents. Your build: (2.8.0)
[17:08:22 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Registered commands.
[17:08:22 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] [Services] [BukkitCommandHandler] Loaded in 679ms.
[17:08:23 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Console Alerts: true
[17:08:23 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] File Alerts: true
[17:08:23 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] Chat Alerts: true
[17:08:23 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] [Services] [BukkitAlertManager] Loaded in 326ms.
[17:08:23 INFO]: [AntiCrasher] AntiCrasher enabled with 4 checks enabled.
still cant join still this error
[17:08:38 INFO]: UUID of player luckyc is 29fb65fa-d282-36d5-acb1-c35893f10c7d
[17:08:40 INFO]: luckyc (/192.168.0.1:54084) lost connection: Internal Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: void future
That "anticrasher" plugin is using PacketEvents
should i just remove it idek why its in there
I'm attempting to compile the 1.21.7 build on debian bullseye. I've just updated to Java 24. My build keeps failing. I've tried on both Java 22 and 24.
Here is my pastebin of the build logs:
https://pastebin.com/RmD6G3dp
I suspect it's some kind of missing dependency, but I really am not a pro at this. Anyone have an idea of what I'm missing?
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
Looks like you have a bad authlib jar
Rerun BuildTools in an empty folder
Actually might have to get rid of the local .m2 repo as there appears to be more than one bad file
/home/<username>/.m2/repository
the whole folder, or just something inside of it?
The whole folder is safe to remove, it acts like a local cache
If you've ever done mvn install (or a gradle equivalent) on a project it'll end up there
would it be smarter to remove the folder, or just to empty it?
Now I assume this is a server machine and you haven't done that
up to you
doesn't really matter
I don't think I've ever done it, but I'm not certain what an mvn install is, so it's a possibility I've done it without knowing I did it.
It's fine then
rerunning the build now, with an empty folder, and a clear repository folder🤞
Build Success!
Thank you!
guys i wanna pick a random person on the online players but how am i gonna do it ?
for what purpose?
bit of a broad question
Where's the best place to find an experienced full-time Minecraft developer for hire other than Spigot forums?
@grand sinew's dms, he works for free.
oh wait soryy
this isnt help development but lemme ask anyways
ima pick him and he'll be the IT or something like that im making a hide and seek game
thats where im messing up dude
Lets move to #help-development
ok!
Send what youve tried there
here or on development
Dev
Little Question, does someone know, how i can create that emty lines between messages like in the picture?
wdym
in what plugin
I dont have a plugin that can do that, thats the point
My question is if i can do that with LPC or some other plugin
what are u on about
messages where
where is this msg
what plugin is printing the msg
??
the msg just doesnt appear by it self
the arrows between the message
stop msging me
??
Not sure what his problem is lol. We're just unsure as to what empty lines you're referring to. There are no empty lines in the screenshot you sent
If you're looking for that character, it's a right angle quotation mark, »
ragebaiting needs to be nerfed
I saw this system with these arrows on a server. I was just wondering how it's possible for these arrows to appear between a message. Personally, I use LuckPermsChat and wanted to ask, can this be set up in LPC somehow, or is there a plugin for it, or how exactly does it work?
i want tu use that for ranks like vip or staff members
Oh I see, these arrows are positioned before and after a player's message. e.g.
»
Me: Hello!
»
Might get a little bit annoying but if that's what you want to do, power to you :p
If I were to guess, that would be a custom plugin. I'm unfamiliar with any public plugins that do this
okay 👍
Sure, I never said it was a difficult plugin to make. Just niche lol
I'm not gonna make it! I've got things to do!
You can use it on hypixel for MVP++s!!!!1
pfft cheap
it needs to be at least 6 lines
<--------------------------------->
THIS IS AN MVP MESSAGE
[MVP++]
{message}
<--------------------------------->
thats not a bad idea icl
That's called chat spam
Hey does plugin TAB work for 1.20.1 if I want a score board ?
don't see why not
look
i cant show screen shot ill dm u
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so like only money display works
i did papi ecloud download every one of them and reload but doesnt work
Yeah more of a papi issue than tab
okey i fixed it cant believe spent like 1 hour on this 😭
do i need to add ranks for rank section to work ? its the only one that doesnt work
Ahaha
Do you have luckperms?
😦
the pluggin yes
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Idk google it
Hello, wheres a good spot to find builders / graphic designers OTHER than the spigot forums
Google it
yes bro
Litt just google it
go builtbybit
look for builds u like
contact the studio for commision
ill take a look
most of those studios do commision
tbh i recommend mcmodels instead
PING ME IF YOU RESPONSE
Do you know a plugin or some logic thingy on how I could implement a CUSTOM ARMOR if WORN a player will have HASTE 2 UNLIMITED EFFECTS?
yes @subtle latch
yes @subtle latch
Is this the Channel for Qpestions? When yes here is my qpestion: I use Multiverse-core and Multiverse portal , I like they plugins but I have a Problem with them, when i don't have Op then i don't can use the portals and I don't can toset that of aloww because there isn't a setting vor permissions, neither in the files, still a command in game. Does anyone know how this workt or why that doesn't work? I need informations. Can anyone help me or answer me, please.
🙏
Ask on their discord, but you will probably need a permissions plugin like luckperms
thanks
i lose a bunch of players in my smp cuz when they join at night time they get sent to jesus the second they hop in, how can i fix this
I think they mean they get killed
they die
By mobs
Essentials has an option for invulnerability on login, I’m sure other plugins can do the same as well
so u can configure for how long the player is invulnerable since they join?
Yes
How do u even translate that jish
what if some of the more powerful players discover this mechanic and abuse it to their advantage
Is it a PvP server
nah like if theyre about to die by mobs and they do /lobby /smp so they get invincibility
that one baby zombie with full diamond armor:
hmm good idea
mc server devops gameplay:
this one is the only one that is a tiny bit relevant and its not what i want
isnt there a gamerule
or a server.properties config
guess i need to make my own system
damn
Sounds like a questions for #help-development
I know this is more for Spigot but does anyone know how to remove Block Displays? I'm looking everywhere but can't find anything and it's frustrating me to no end.
do /kill @e[type=block_display]
that will kill all block displays that are loaded
or here this will kill the ones in a 5 block radisu
/kill @e[distance=0..5,type=block_display]
I just found out it's not working on my Spigot server for some reason. Trying to figure out which plugin is causing it. Most notable ones I use are Essentials and World Edit. I'm not sure if those are the cause though...
hey! just curious if anyone here uses ServerListPlus, as I'm having trouble setting the hover message for players hovering over the active player count in server list thing. no matter what i do, it never seems to set. appreciate any help or a point in the right direction
yeah i've gone thru that and the slots portion, but still nothin
well then send us config
check console for errors
sure
im testing with the config they use as an example:
and everything but displaying the slots and slots hovering thing works fine
i'll check console now
oh nice didnt even realize an error all the way up in my console
thanks for pointing me in the right direction 👍 seems that was it
ayo what the actual fu** ? i banned him just in case
May just be trying to crash the server with a translation exploit or something
But it's kinda funny because they're trying to set it to a component despite the fact that the packet sent by the client to update the sign is just a plaintext string which gets thrown into a literal component. It doesn't parse the component JSON lol
like those kiddos sending random ahh characters and blocks of texts and being like: "yeah ur servers getting hacked go k*s"
In 1.8 you could dupe with that
Because it did resolve it
can anyone help me with item model?
i want to create a custom item which appears when i kill a custom mob, the problem is that the item appears but without the custom texture
private ItemStack createCuernoDemoniaco() {
ItemStack cuerno = new ItemStack(Material.GOAT_HORN);
ItemMeta itemMeta = cuerno.getItemMeta();
if (itemMeta != null) {
CustomModelDataComponent customModelData = itemMeta.getCustomModelDataComponent();
List<String> strings = Arrays.asList("permadeath:cuerno_demoniaco");
customModelData.setStrings(strings);
itemMeta.setCustomModelDataComponent(customModelData);
itemMeta.setDisplayName(ChatColor.LIGHT_PURPLE + "Cuerno demoníaco");
itemMeta.setLore(Arrays.asList(
ChatColor.GRAY + "Un cuerno místico que emana",
ChatColor.GRAY + "energía demoníaca..."
));
cuerno.setItemMeta(itemMeta);
}
return cuerno;
}

Ban bro with a reason: Get a job
what plugins r u adding to ur server that dont work
Essential X and a plugin For a Manhunt
It's not that beacause iv'e added Plasmo voice and it installed
?offline
ok ?
iv'e buyed the game
it's just since I don't have chat I use Crack
@mellow dock Even if I put it in online mode it still don't work
?paste the full log
java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not load plugin 'CompassFollowsPlayer v1.0' as it is not marked as supporting Folia!
You’re trying to use folia with several plugins that don’t support folia
What is Folia ?
If you don’t know what it is, why are you using it
I would not ask him to be making any more servers in the future
so can you help ?
Don’t use folia
How do I remove it ?
u need to replace the server software in the server root
make a new server then
I don't ave the perms to do that
just do it on ur pc
then you understand it maybe
and know how to replace the serversoftware
How can I set the scoreboard of the SuperLobbyDeluxe plugin? I haven't found any command, and there is nothing in the config.
Ask in their server
What is the name of this plugin that creates holograms that stay still in space?
Change the billboard type
anyone able to help me with the excellent enchants mod?
this is a spigot server for plugins
Depends on what’s wrong with it. It could be something that needs to be brought to the dev. What’s the issue or error saying?
yo guys u think its ok if i run everything in one VPS? like proxy, db, lobby, smp, parkour, voicechat...
Dedi would be much more suitable
?
A dedicated server
ah
but the pricing is like this:
8 gb vps $5
16gb $10
32gb $20
{nothing in between)
512GB Ryzen 9 VDS $300
ok
the main problem with going multi server is that i gotta go from simple docker compose setup to a k8s setup with atleast 3 servers
im running on this with these instances:
- Proxy 400MB
- Lobby 800MB
- SMP 3GB
- MYSQL Database idkMB
and it did not lag even a bit after ~22 players online
im planning to add 3GB of ram for the upcoming parkour gamemode
if it works it works 🙏
Can anybody give me a good levelssmp plugin...
That won’t be a problem but you need to consider that over time it builds up ram and cpu usage, 3gb isn’t going to last with 20+ players on a survival map.
Does anyone know of a plugin for Staffchat across a proxy preferably connected via MariaDB/SQL, with configurable trigger command & Server Name
There used to be one called SimpleStaffChat by Egg82 but its a bit out of date now 😦
UltimateStaffChatPro is the best one I use
It has staff channels as well
Tons of commands and discord
Aye ive had a look at their comfig, i see they've setup a custom trigger per se but from your experience can you set it to say /sc or /ao to trigger staff chat?
Each channel has its own command and prefix
So you could do, # hello
with the # as a prefix instead of a command
can you change the command however so its always /ao?
or you can do /sc or for example i have helper chat which is /hc or i do ? msg
Alot of my custom plugins trigger alerts by running an /ao command
You configure each channel's commands and prefixes yes
That works for me thank you 🙂
It's the best staff plugin out there!
Aye the fact it does redis/sql too is the selling point
actually thats gonna be an issue it doesnt support SQL agh
Already bought it now lol
My cmds run per server not via Bungee so thats gonna be rough
Realtime messaging over MySQL is an odd choice
Theres a way but not guranteed about bugs , u can manully update the plugin
Aye i have the sourcecode. Im going to take a crack at it
My Java isnt terrible
im trying to be lazy 😄
Its same thing
U downloas 7zip a extracter
U open jar file
In that u will see a file called plugin.yml
U change the api-version: to ur require version in this case 1.21 for latest
Aye,
You really do not want to do that
Ye cuz bugs start to show up thats why i said i dont gurantee bugs
You don't gain anything from manually changing the version in the plugin.yml
All you do is break stuff
Best case senario it'll run the same
Aye i gathered, its better if i just redo the whole thing, it’s not a complicated plugin. Very lightweight
Egg82 is such a great guy. Talented dev
Why tf would it have sql 🙏
dont use sql for communications
thats the entire point of redis
Cross network communication that doesnt rely on bungee
sql is for storage
yeah, redis
thats the entire point of redis
shared data
Tbh it was something i was looking into anyway, it pairs nicely with mariadb for other redis stuff
dont use sql for communications only exception is basically luckperms
but thats like a middle thing
Aye if other plugins relied on redis id have moves to it sooner
The ones i use anyway.
well they dont really need to just depends on the plugin
redis isnt a database
its just for shared data
Thanks for your help though!
nw matem
why is build tools generating 1.21.1 spigot file if i typed 1.21
redis' whole point is caching simple data, though
and it is a database since it can store permanent data
yeah aka msgs wym
I believe 1.21.1 superseded 1.21. There's no reason to run 1.21 at all. Consider 1.21.1 the minimum version of 1.21
There were exploit fixes in .1
I mean you are MUCH better off using a message queue
like RabbitMQ
oh yeah i forgot rabbit exists 🙏
Is this how proxy setups' ping looks like:
pingBetweenPlayerAndProxy
+
pingBetweenProxyAndBackend
Cuz i wanna move my proxy to a PaaS so that it can benefit from multi regioning to prevent outages if the dc goes down, then i will make it so that the proxy will connect to 2 lobby servers for example, one in X game host and another in Y game host so that i can prevent downtime at all costs but im scared that this will introduce a shit tonna latency
if you mean bungee proxy it uses a handshake-like protocol iirc.
What exactly do you mean move your proxy to PaaS? you want to sell your proxy?
And if you want maximum uptime, a proxy isn't really effective. It's a single chokepoint. unless you mean two separated proxies on each host aswell
I mean i will use one of those kubernetes services that have multi region support and i will use them so the peoxy will automatically get moved to another datacenter if its unhealthy
But the KaaS does not have game ready hardwatre so i gotta use another service provider and that creates latency
All the proxy is doing is forwarding packets
it doesnt have to be game ready
just have relatively goood throughput
But also dont preemptively overeingeer solutions like this. Unless you have ran into issues with downtime and have a large playerbase, this isn't necessary and just adds complexity
I think the shitty way that minecraft does things (put it on a server and let it run) has more complexity for me rather than a clean and managed solution
I wish minecraft was stateless so that it could be auto scaled with k8s
I also wish that i wasnt a web developer so i didnt think like this
I wish mojang understood the potential of minecraft
a minecraft server is inherently stateful, this would just be needlessly overcomplicated
pex hasn't been updated for 2 years. use something else
GroupManager my beloved 🙏🏻
luckyperms
What could be the reason behind chat validation error ? Can someone please help
I have to launch my server in an hour and this happens
Someone please help 🙏 ( @crimson nexus )
where tutorial
what tutorial
Someone please help
chat plugins probably
I have none besides LPC
i tried removing LPC and this still exists
got a proxy?
Offline mode moment
No
U in offline mode?
Yes
turn chatsgining off in server.properties
what version are you
1.21.4
So i deleted the whole server including the 63 configured plugins, i am going to make it from scratch because thats the only option im left with 😔
can you send the actual error that pops up in console
change enforce-secure-profile = false
but since you have offline mode I can't guarantee that this will be safe
so do this at your own risk
lol
All you have to do is change enforce secure profile to false
W drama
You shouldve came earlier
W dramatic
I reloaded the backup and did what you said just cuz you said it now its not working
I CONTACTED THE HOST AND GOT TO KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE TRASH CAN
but
its still not working 😔
Oh
Is it actually possible to disable tracebacks? e.g.
[13:17:49] [Netty Epoll Server IO #0/ERROR]: Error sending packet clientbound/minecraft:disconnect
io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: Sending unknown packet 'clientbound/minecraft:disconnect'
at net.minecraft.network.codec.IdDispatchCodec.a(SourceFile:50) ~[spigot-1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:4520-Spigot-6e79c50-d257c87]
at net.minecraft.network.codec.IdDispatchCodec.encode(SourceFile:14) ~[spigot-1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:4520-Spigot-6e79c50-d257c87]
at net.minecraft.network.PacketEncoder.a(SourceFile:26) ~[spigot-1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:4520-Spigot-6e79c50-d257c87]
at net.minecraft.network.PacketEncoder.encode(SourceFile:12) ~[spigot-1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:4520-Spigot-6e79c50-d257c87]
at io.netty.handler.codec.MessageToByteEncoder.write(MessageToByteEncoder.java:107) ~[netty-codec-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite0(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:893) ~[netty-transport-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at
...
at
io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.processReady(EpollEventLoop.java:501) ~[netty-transport-classes-epoll-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:399) ~[netty-transport-classes-epoll-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:998) ~[netty-common-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74) ~[netty-common-4.1.118.Final.jar:4.1.118.Final]
at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1575) [?:?]
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hi guys
im not very experienced with java, and im trying to build spigot 1.21.7 (for Geyser) and every time i build with build tools it spits this error:
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal net.md-5:specialsource-maven-plugin:2.0.4:remap (remap-members) on project spigot: Error creating remapped jar: The following artifacts could not be resolved: org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:csrg:maps-spigot-members:1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT (absent): Could not find artifact org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:csrg:maps-spigot-members:1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in minecraft-libraries (https://libraries.minecraft.net/) -> [Help 1]
if anyone could help that would be great!
?paste the entire log please
sorry it is taking so long as i had it running in tmux and now am recompiling to fetch full log
when i click save it says error adding document
Try running again in an empty folder
ok
i hope this works and thank you in advance 🙏🏻
what
how did that work 😭
this is why i hate java
you sir are a wizard 🙏🏻
That's not Javas fault
Whoever wrote that part of BuildTools does not check if that csrg got created properly
Instead skipping that part entierly when a partial or failed decomp exists
Causing it to fail repeatedly until that work is removed so it can try again
Buildtools PR time :p
Yeah I did think about doing that
someone can send me a tutorial for create a multi proxy server?
just create multiple proxies
connect them using redis
u can also now transfer people between proxies using the transport packet
ok, and where i can find redis?
ok thx
or redisbungee
reidsbungee just syncs them
but like do u need a multi proxy setup?
really i have a mc server where i'd like to implement multyproxy
well wanting something
isnt always the way to go
if u dont need it
no reason to hassle with developing and managing it
its not something u just download and its there and done
u need to properly look after it its not a easy thing
idk if i need it, because i and my server are italian, and now exists a lot of Hack Squad, and when they make crash a proxy i want to have a second one
yes, now we have a small number of player
I’m not sure you can really transfer the connection easily when the proxy crashes
and u need to make sure they are synced
and the plugins u add there sync as well
^^ what jishuna said too
on crashes u cant send it 100%
its more like on restarts / updates
or lets say u have a setup like hypixel where each minigame server has their own proxy
although idek what hypixel does
ah, but the players can rejoin without wait the first proxy come back on
yeah
Proxies restart super quick
depends on what u run on it 🙏
Probably faster than your users will rejoin
my players leave during 0.5 seconds of downtime
i cant even get them to understand a restart takes only a min 😭
"ah server down welp new server"
TikTok attention span
well thats like where my playerbase is from so yeah
Yes, but what if they doss the first vps with the first proxy and the redis and the second proxy are on another vps? the first proxy does not turn off, so that it only lags
Someone tell Mojang to allow servers to send a fallback address
If connection is lost to the first address the client will attempt to join the fallback
i dont think thats a very good idea 😭 🙏
i mean are u running ur proxies on different machines in the first place?
then yeah ig its fine
but again
do u really have the playerbase
or even need this setup
just use tcpshield
no, but a small italian server yes .-.
we already have it
nono, less work is better
are u leaking ur server ip?
yeah so whats the point
took me 2 days to setup a multi proxy setup
and i have to deal w it whenver updating
then plugins have problems, i have to deal with them
no
wait i mean no in this message
good
make sure u dont
or if u want u can just send it to me ill ddos it for u 💞
just pay me ill set it up for u
as long as ur on 1.21+
no, now i dont want multyproxy
I mean
i wanted only know how is hard
Why would leaking the server ip matter
So they can get around tcp shield
But that would also mean the server is responding to things it shouldn't be
As most "ddos" attacks on small Minecraft servers are just crash packets instead of an actual attack
Shouldn’t the backend server have everything external blocked
Except the proxy if that isn’t on the same network*
Even then you can specifically allow for the proxy ip
no wdym
u allow connections to proxy from tcpshield
and then u block everything else
✅
We were talking about the backend server
:(
ptero ips are jaring asf to deal with though 🙏
172.18.0.1**
That's the docker internal one
yeah ik but it works half the time
idk why but
when u first set it up
each server gets a specific one 172.18.0.3 which can only be accessed via that
but then when u restart or some magic 172.18.0.1 also reaches all servers
i need a plugin that forward my spigot command to bungeecord
for example when i use /server test manually, it works
but when i trigger it with an item it doesnt work
You sure you’re using the right placeholders to target the player?
What plugin is this?
Hey I'm new to make a server
Do you guys know how to make domain for Minecraft?
I've had a server that is (KVM Only) and buy some domains on hostinger,whenever I did,it just attach to java not bedrock (using geyser and version 1.21)
create an a record pointing toward the ip, if its not on port 25565 for java add an srv record
infact half of that is wrong
yeah just create an A record pointing to the ip and srv record if not using 25565
I'm really confused rn
Already make A point and srv record.. as a mention earlier from the wiki it says it need subdomain?
And I'll also ask chatgpt,bedrock need subdomain to get it work? Is it right?
you dont require a subdomain it will work without one
a lot of stuff on that hostinger article is pointless
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for bedrock u need to point the main IP at ur bedrock server
bedrock wont work with SRV
for java u need the 25555 port
How?... I'm really confused to how do this,is it on A?
follow the guide above for java
Java already work for me,it just only for bedrock is won't work
for bedrock either use a subdomain or point ur main domain @ A record to the ip of the server
Then for java to work use a SRV record on 25565
Really,I have to search to another website for something get it work,even AI they make is pointles😭😭
by default minecraft searchs on 25565 so you wont need an srv record for that
u di
bc he will point the main record to the bedrock ip
well i host geyser externally ye
but srv record is safer eitherwat
it can look on the wrong IP sometimes
so I'll need a like _minecraft._tcp.origins
port 19132 on... SRV or... A?
if you host geyser as a plugin the ip is identical so wouldnt need one
i sent u the good guide
no?
just make an A record pointing to ur servers ip
thats it
if it doesnt work ur geyser is running on the wrong port or not running
Right,sorry for me being dumb...
Thanks for helping guys
I'll try again when I'll get home
Bless you all @thorn gale @remote shuttle
🙇♂️🙇♂️
no dont do this to me
Anything to this?
dunno what you mean by "tracebacks" but this is a known vanilla bug https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC/issues/MC-271325
oh stack trace
And no, you wouldn't want that. In case any plugins have any errors your logs would be useless to the developer.
I do not run any plugins, its pure spigot
Ah alright. Intresting, this bug exists since quite some time already
Is it possible to use hex color for texts in the book?
This work everywhere else but not in the book: §x§d§9§d§a§d§e
Should work, are you up to date?
guys whats the best plugin for signs command Supports group perms
For example, if the person is not from the VIP group, he cannot use the sign
Luckperms
So you are asking about a sign command to edit a sign?
Not the requirement of permissions
EssentialsX would have all of those things
alr im asking to sign command with support perms
how, i didnt see command sign for essential
and yeah I do not want to be bound by a specific lines like [command]
can anyone recommend any fun plugins for a survival server like custom items or sm for 1.21.7 cuz slimefun doesnt work on 1.21
I need help. Basically I use bungeecord to connect 2 servers together. the server 1 is called "example1", the server 2 is called "example2".
when people join, they are forced to join "example1" server before going to "example2".
The server tab list (the playercount in multiplayer) adds +1 when a player is in example1 server. so if there's 7 players there, the server list will say 7/100. However when people move to example2, the serverlist doesnt keep those 7 people, it only counts the people that are in example1. so if everyone is in example2, the server will display that there's 0/100 people online. Please help!
how so?
guys whats the best plugin for signs command Supports group perms
For example, if the person is not from the VIP group, he cannot use the sign
i mean ideally they all support permissions ootb
i dont think without some sort of direct invocation a plugin could execute a command without passing through Bukkits command and permission systems
pls help my issue
no one know any plugin like that?
.
Google bro
i have found serversigns and command signs i tried to make perms evrey sign it always say u dont have perms
i know an older server i was a part of used CommandSigns
but how can i do it check group for perms >? i think it just check perms not groups
idk
Groups should give their perms to the individual player
Give us the acc error of when u try plugins in which they have perms to use
The issue is with how CommandSigns checks permissions.
It does not check which group I belong to — it only checks if I have the permission directly.
In my setup, I use group-based ranks where each higher rank inherits the permissions of the lower ones.
For example:
group.vip inherits from group.default, and so on.
However, CommandSigns does not recognize inherited permissions from group memberships.
This is why the commands don’t work unless I give the permission directly to the player.
So the problem isn't in the permission itself, but in how CommandSigns verifies it — it looks for direct permissions, not inherited ones through groups.
Which permissions plugin are you using
pex
Use luckperms 💪🏻
so if i use it ?
GroupManager my beloved 😞
I have a WorldGuard region called “Guild.” Is there a plugin that lets Guild members PvP inside the region but prevents outsiders from fighting back?
Basically like factions—when someone enters a faction’s land, members can attack them, but the outsider can’t fight back. Any plugin that works with WorldGuard like this?
I really really need one
What does it have to do with what I want?
Maybe it works properly
Since an inherited permission should be visible to a plugin checking permissions
Unless that plugin is the one doing something stupid
Anyone???
.
So Im trying to start a server but when I click on the jar file it does nothing
Go look at a guide
Still doesnt do anything when i create the bat file
What does it say in the bat file?
java -Xms128M -Xmx4096M -jar spigot.jar nogui
PAUSE
does it instantly close?
yes
The PAUSE should make it not close, what error does it give?
and are you on windows
Yes windows and no errors
where did you get your jar from?
the buildtools jar on spigotmc.com
thats quite strange
only possibility i can think of is that you're using the wrong jar
what java do i need. 21?
yeah 21 should be fine
so spigot.jar is the jar you got AFTER running build tools right?
fixed it, my java was glitched out and wouldn't install 21
So it was only showing 17 and 24
Alright so I want this plugin, its called OldGenerator and Im using it to generate beta 1.7.3 terrain in 1.20.1, I have no clue how to change the settings to actually have it spawn with that terrain
says i need to add worlds:
worldname1:
generator: OldGenerator:b173
worldname2:
generator: OldGenerator:b173
to my bukkit.yml but where in that file
i'd assume you just append it
didnt work
yes
?paste
post it here
great!
Not sure if this is the proper channel, so please correct me if I am wrong. But I am looking for paid Beta-Testers. Please DM Me 🙂
?services probably
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Hello, I have a OVH vps and a vps at home.
My ovh vps isn't that performant, but the IP address isn't a problem.
My vps at home is performant, but the IP address is exposed if I tell it
So, I was wondering if it is possible to create a bungeecord server on my ovh vps that redirects to my vps at home, so I can give the OVH vps domain instead of my vps one
can anyone recommend any fun plugins for survival similar to slimefun
also anyone know any plugins to reduce lag from mobs/entities
smh no need for entity lag, minecraft cleans those up all by itself
entities are killing my server
Yes that's possible
Time to remove some of them
Or if they are naturally spawned lower the mob cap
where is mob cap in config files
bukkit.yml iirc
Have you ever setup Bungeevord before?
no
Then yeah head over to the wiki
okay thanks 😄
Don't forget to install Bungeeguard
what is it ?
A plugin to help prevent people from bypassing Bungee
Ideally you'd also setup a firewall so that you cannot reach the backend server without the proxy
okay thanks, I'll try all of that
hello there, hopefully i am in the right channel.
but i have made a creeper farm on my server (running spigot) but sadly, it does not work at all (creepers are not spawning) and tried the same world in Vanilla server and singleplayer and it works. What should i change in the configuration files to make it work ?
Thanks in advance!
which creeper farm r u using
Are you running the default configs?
thanks guys but i have fixed it yesterday, it had to do with the ticks-per monster spawns. i have changed it to the default bukkit settings and it worked @tawny dust @remote shuttle
well uhh i need to show a picture of the help i need cause i can't describe so i'll say my spigot on general doesn't show any of the pngs on the site
I have no idea if this is the right place, but I couldn't find a support email for network related issues on the Spigot site. I seem to have somehow gotten WAF blocked into oblivion after trying to download the BuildTools.jar file from the documentation. I was able to find an alternative download via Jenkins, but I cannot actually run the jar because I am getting a 403. It looks like cloudflare is throwing a captcha up on all requests regardless of http path
I also tried the GUI on a Windows Server VM, and I get the same thing, just in-case there was something off in the Ubuntu VM
Ah- thanks, that saves me some troubleshooting and headache
cloudflare has done something whacky without us touching anything, we're looking into it. Does it work now?
hello
remove 2fa
Hi, how can i increase the mob cap? mob count is around 30 in the nether
How do I get the 1.7.10 version of spigot? I wasn't able to build it in Buildtool.
?howold 1.7.10
Minecraft 1.7.10 is 11 years, 2 weeks old.
does anyone have the square character which is used in antylogout?
to make like a loading bar
theyre rectangles probably
i dont remember
◼ or ■ or ◾ (emoji)
theres not many lol
All Unicode Symbols with Names and Descriptions on One Page
just look at the Geoemtric Shapes section
how do i make my sever allow premium players to not register but still allow cracked players to join and having to register
like meta mc
Help, i downloaded the correct version, but why is it showing an error?
we dont provide support for offline servers
if "we" didnt support it, it wouldn't be allowed to be posted on the forums.
Where is ther Server, can you write a link
idk thats what "we" all say
Spigot doesn't condone nor endorse it. Spigot does, however, provide a platform to distribute it because it's not against the rules to write a plugin to accomplish it.
It's the same reason there are plugins hosted on Spigot that can violate Mojang's CUG and EULA, but that responsibility is on the user installing the plugin
Offline mode does not and will not receive official support from Spigot. Period. If community members individually want to help someone, that's their prerogative. But Spigot will not support it and encourages servers to be in online mode

does anyone know how to make a custom object throw animation from ORAXEN plugin, via engine model plugin, for example I throw an object (bottle) with SNOWBALL id and I need to make microphone animation when the object flies
Hey there
I am looking for experienced developers for my server if u're work is good I will be paying you. pls Do dm me
Can't
Use modelengine and mythicmobs
ok, but how do I animate this at all, with what plugins?
i gave u the plugins
blockbench to create the animation
animation with model engine after u throw
the throwing in hand can be made using the trident
when u let go model engine and mythic mobs can take over
Does anyone know of a plugin that gives souls when killing another player and uses them to buy items? for version 1.21+
I mean just get a currency plugin and rename the currency to souls, then get a player kill bounty thing or smth and make it give 1 soul
However, I use vault/essentials, so why wouldn't another money plugin corrupt it?
Ah i see
literally just any pvp plugin
how can i increase the mob generation in the nether?
any idea the source of these errors?
my guess is coreprotect. this started happening after i tried to ugprade. the upgrade failed and the server was unplayable. but after restoring the bac kup this still occurs
did you potentially restore a backup without deleting the existing files?
it might be that your backup restored the files but you didnt delete new ones created during the upgrade
I doubt coreprotect has anything to do with it
do u know which files would cause this error?
the server is working as is. but i want to get rid of these errors before trying to upgrade again
are there problems with the world files themselves?
yes you probably have extra files in there you dont need
you should remove the world before restoring from backup
how can i change my spigot name
?changename
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oooo
good point
hmm
so in theory if all the backups from then are gone
and the world is workign now
is there a way to fix the world files
the world is working as is, but the world files are still corupted in some way
I think you can technically ignore the message
Is there an easy website or program that lets me make plugin and custome itemss (like basic one) easely kind like bedrock has bidge vc
Skript?
can it do custome items and custome mitem textures and whanot
Probably
Skript has extensions for these kinds of things, which afaik a lot of people i use
epic
My gosh I could really use some help, I'm tearing my hair out yelling at this server to no avail. I run BuildTools.exe to install 1.21 and instead it decides to install 1.21.1 .... which when I try to install DynMap for 1.21 it just fails across the board, what do I do?!?!
so sometimes spigot will consider a version obsolete/useless
usually happens if it was quickly superseded by another patch version
Does anyone here use Dynmap plugin?
It's basically a google maps overview of your map, I've used it for a very long time but now I am trying to start a new server with my wife with that plugin and there is no way I can find to make it work.
The plugin says the latest versiosn it supports is 1.21 but when I try to build that it decides it wants to build 1,21,1 instead?!
have u tried running it anyway
Getg errors across the board in the console and none of the commands work and it does not spin up a webserver on localhost:8123
I doubt any of that has to do with 1.21 vs 1.21.1
I'm trying to set up the server on a extra work computer retired from our office, Vanilla Minecraft runs fine, we've gotten over 48 hours into our save and I wanted to add dynmap but now it's killing me
Dynnmap plugin says it is compatible up to 1.21 but I for some reason not install 1.21.
That's what I'm trying to install, using spigot's own installer I cannot get 1.21 to install, it says it is installing 1.21 but the jar file that comes out is 1.21.1.jaar
1.21 and 1.21.1 are essentially the same version
Whatever issue you are having is not because of those
Rather than going on about what you think the problem is, describe the problem and error messages
If you click the updates tab youll clearly see even 1.21.5 is supported
As is 1.21.1
Oh I cannot post screenshots here?
I have multiple screenshots I could share* that might help.
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Your dynmap is outdated
Log says 3.6?
That is not what I downloaded, go to that URL and download that same link.
Dynmap-3.7-beta-9-spigot.jar is the download that it shows
And what jar is in your plugins folder
When running it, it falsely declares itself as 3.6
Sorry but I believe dynmap more than I believe you
The jar in my plugins folder is Dynmap-3.7-beta-9-spigot.jar
omg still cant post screenshots erh
There, screenshot of the proper file in the proper place, sorry I had to use a USB stick to transfer the screenshot from the server to here
?paste
That URL returns a blank blue screen with a scam warning.
Be cautios using that URL.
I work in cybersecurity for RealDefense.
Likely our VPN blocked that URL.
I'm one of the lucky few in our company that gets to click random links, just so I can find out how they scam you or infect you with ransomware or whatever evil intention.
Oh my gosh, I am sorry for acting like a brat, I just forced it to launch 1.21.1 again with the 1.21 dynmap pluging and gosh darning the damn thing loaded and I feel like an ass. Thank you for bearing with me.