I love yaml
#help-archived
marsh nova
timber barn
lol
marsh nova
just use a yaml validator
runic wadi
i like hocon, json, and properties files
marsh nova
other than that, everything is a nice key : value
naive goblet
you cant have it compact?
keen compass
I only learned that part with Json because I was curious in how you would know how many arrays an array has, and the answer was you don't and you can't know. So you just have to create a method that keeps looping until it encounters no more arrays XD
runic wadi
i think that plugin.yml should instead be plugin.json
keen compass
well you did
naive goblet
I mean plugin.yml seems more fair, less words and symbols
timber barn
we are in the #help-archived channel after all
timber barn
touchΓ© @keen compass
runic wadi
i don't need help, i'm just here to bitch about yaml
naive goblet
I bet everyone would change focus to the ones who need supports once they arrive
keen compass
usually that is the case
naive goblet
It should be
red zenith
yaml: Hold my misplaced space
hallow surge
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityMountEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
EntityType typeent = getent.getType();
if(typeent.equals(EntityType.HORSE)) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityInteractEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
EntityType typeent = getent.getType();
if(typeent.equals(EntityType.HORSE)) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}``` any idea why this isnt working i know its probably stupid and my variables are also probably very bad xDwhat is it not doing?
naive goblet
.equals()
Constants / enum elements should be used with a reference comparison. EntityType == EntityType
hallow surge
i always get confused with those smh
naive goblet
one is for content one is for reference
keen compass
it should be
(typeent.getType() == EntityType.HORSE);
Ok guys, what about AXON?
https://intellimath.bitbucket.io/axon/
naive goblet
Never used it
timber barn
me neither
hallow surge
@keen compass wouldnt that be redundant as
typeent = getent.getType()
runic wadi
i haven't had an entity mount event in 2 months
keen compass
@hallow surge I didn't look at it closely, essentially just get the type of entity compare it to the Constant
boreal tiger
What about JBON
red zenith
Is that because of Covid, Trapped?
keen compass
lmao
naive goblet
Y2K no
runic wadi
yes
hallow surge
should probably look up the propper uses of == versus .equals
timber barn
Hmmm is it possible to write a plugin which supports plugins based on .json files instead of .yml?
naive goblet
Since EntityType.HORSE is a fixed one
timber barn
silly question, but I'm not 100% sure whats possible on the fly with spigot/bukkit/mc
timber barn
Like a core plugin? @naive goblet
naive goblet
Yeah
keen compass
I am sure you probably could support .json files. In fact you could just depend on SnakeYamlEngine instead which has the 1.2 Spec of YAML that supports JSON objects
naive goblet
load: STARTUP
runic wadi
mom said "yo room is dirty, <clinit>." but then i replied, "cmon, it's good enough, <init>?"
naive goblet
I mean if your plugin is the core it could manipulate most stuff in the server
silk bane
resign
runic wadi
ok goodbye
timber barn
I'm curios acutally
naive goblet
why
naive goblet
useless
timber barn
I'm bored
silk bane
@timber barn the entire plugin loading mechanism is an implementation detail, so good luck
timber barn
yes indeed
naive goblet
if ((!(((typeent == typeent)))))
keen compass
lol
marsh nova
what
red zenith
Not EntityType.HORSE == typeent
timber barn
da fuq
keen compass
you should make a non-recursive recursive loop @naive goblet
red zenith
Heβll get around to it someday
naive goblet
Always =}
runic wadi
outer: {
slightlyInnerButMostlyOuter: {
primarilyInnerButNotQuite: {
fullyInnerAndNoOuter: {
break outer;
}
}
}
}
```my plugin is supposed to do great things, please leave feedback thank you goodbye.yes that is valid java
and yes it is exciting
timber barn
How is a core plugin different from a 'normal' plugin?
runic wadi
there is no difference
naive goblet
No diff Zahl
marsh nova
what is a core plugin?
red zenith
It does number crunches?
naive goblet
But it's what the project is aimed to be that determines
runic wadi
a plugin is a plugin
marsh nova
Never heard of a "core plugin"
naive goblet
I'd a faction plugin is pretty core
runic wadi
if it has extends JavaPlugin it's just like the rest of us
keen compass
a core plugin is something that is designed to be depended on, like an API
naive goblet
implements IPluginJava
keen compass
However most core plugins are not designed properly
Since most of them extend JavaPlugin instead of PluginBase
hallow surge
@keen compass thx for the help π already fixed it before you said that
runic wadi
wait a plugin can extend something that isn't JavaPlugin?
keen compass
yes
red zenith
Priority of onEnable and onLoad is higher than that of plugins that arenβt core?
runic wadi
wat
keen compass
You can extend PluginBase if it is a lib and the server will load it
runic wadi
that's a little weird
keen compass
but it won't treat it like a normal plugin though
naive goblet
Ah yeah
runic wadi
a library should be shaded or found in the module path
naive goblet
Never seen anyone do it though (plugin base)
runic wadi
that is gross
crimson cairn
why would you extend PluginBase
timber barn
Soo.. for example, is PlaceholderAPI a "core" plugin?
naive goblet
Not really
marsh nova
What is a core plugin?
keen compass
so that your lib can be in the same directory as the plugin depending on it without the server complaining about it
naive goblet
I mean it has an API
marsh nova
Most of my plugins have an API
naive goblet
but would say it's softcore
timber barn
That what frost described @marsh nova
marsh nova
don't ping please, it makes the message harder to read
crimson cairn
@keen compass i don't understand
keen compass
if you extend PluginBase you don't need plugin.yml too if I recall
timber barn
Will not happen again
marsh nova
oh my
naive goblet
No lol
keen compass
Anyways, its for the purpose that your API or library can exist in the same directory as the plugins needing it, and your plugin does things with the server API. To do things with the server API the server needs to load it
naive goblet
I think it just loads the plugin into memory
marsh nova
when the class is loaded from the classloader
then it can check if it extends PluginBase
right?
naive goblet
So the classes are visible
keen compass
^
hallow surge
Forstalf my code still doesnt seem to work? getting no errors this is really odd
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityMountEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
EntityType typeent = getent.getType();
if(typeent.equals(EntityType.HORSE)) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityInteractEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
EntityType typeent = getent.getType();
if(typeent == EntityType.HORSE) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}```yeah but it cant do anything until the main class is loaded
crimson cairn
im sure protocollib doesn't need to do anything for initialization, right?
naive goblet
I think it has to
keen compass
libs that extend PluginBase are not supposed to do things on their own. They are merely there to do things when plugins need them to, like an API. But having the server load your lib gives the advantage that you can make use of things in the server API as well.
crimson cairn
Anyways, its for the purpose that your API or library can exist in the same directory as the plugins needing it, and your plugin does things with the server API. To do things with the server API the server needs to load it
I still don't understand
runic wadi
how very dare you disable horses
naive goblet
lmao
timber barn
now i get it
naive goblet
Island well extending PluginBase would basically load the classes into memory so when other plugins can find the classes it doesnt throw an Exception
hallow surge
its preventing a dupe
crimson cairn
not really a wrong way to do it
hallow surge
so i mean
crimson cairn
@naive goblet that's the purpose of plugin.yml
keen compass
If the server never loaded your lib, you couldn't use the server API in your lib
naive goblet
huh
naive goblet
for your own plugin only
crimson cairn
or it would need to do some hacky reflection
crimson cairn
so Frostalf, then why is it improper to do extends JavaPlugin for a lib
keen compass
Anyways, most people don't know how to use PluginBase anyways so its fine. Because there is things that are missing that you need to handle yourself that are present in JavaPlugin
hence why most go with JavaPlugin
but if your plugin is truly an API and doesn't do things on its own, it should extend PluginBase
naive goblet
Well if its a plugin and and an api no. But yeah if it contains lib classes yeah
crimson cairn
why not JavaPlugin
runic wadi
... how about providing neither PluginBase nor JavaPlugin and being a true library GASP
naive goblet
It's not needed
crimson cairn
but it's not wrong
keen compass
Because extending PluginBase allows for the lib to exist in the plugins directory and all the plugins that depend on it can use it as well as it doesn't screw up shading.
naive goblet
^
crimson cairn
so does JavaPlugin?
crimson cairn
wait what are you trying to shade
keen compass
I am not trying to shade anything in. I am merely explaining that if your plugin doesn't do anything on its own and is a library or api, it should be extending PluginBase and not JavaPlugin
runic wadi
wdym screw up shading
the version of a library your plugin depends on should be shaded and relocated
naive goblet
Frostalf it still needs to be declared in plugin yaml ?
keen compass
Because the class that extends JavaPlugin gets initialized meaning there is things that are needed that won't happen if you do shading
PluginBase doesn't require plugin.yml if I remember correctly
naive goblet
Now it makes even more sense
crimson cairn
it doesnt
naive goblet
It would be unecessary to load a plugin if it onle has classes that is needed for other plugins. So PluginBase would be the ultimate thing as the project then only needs to have the lib classes loaded.
crimson cairn
ok
naive goblet
Including we dont have to shade it.
keen compass
PluginBase isn't for normal plugins, as the only thing that happens if you extend that is your classes get loaded onto the classpath. But you need your library to get loaded on the Classpath if it makes use of the Server API otherwise you end up with NoClassDef exception since your library can't see it.
naive goblet
Just adding it as a dependency
naive goblet
I mean eventually it is but it's primarily made for simplifying stuff ig
keen compass
@crimson cairn If I recall, maven shading wasn't always a thing
sick citrus
if you use anything bukkit-related you need JavaPlugin...
keen compass
so before maven shading was popular, you needed a way to get your library on the class path π
sick citrus
...and even without extending PluginBase you can shade librairies in your Plugin jar without issue
Before maven shading, you had... "Extract dependency in project jar" from intellij/eclipse/whatever π
keen compass
@sick citrus you can use everything in the Server API from PluginBase just fyi don't need JavaPlugin for that, just that PluginBase was created for true libraries or API's that don't need to be initialized on the start of the server.
crimson cairn
why dont they document this and make it easily accessible
keen compass
Have to remember, the API is quite old. And while we have things that make our lives easier in the realms of Java development they didn't always exist either.
sick citrus
It seems to be quite limited in usecases anyway
I can't think of any of my plugins (even library ones) that could be turned into PluginBase
keen compass
Well already stated the advantages of PluginBase over JavaPlugin and where it makes sense to use PluginBase. I also stated why JavaPlugin screws up shading in some cases as well.
sick citrus
Good to know it exists tho π
keen compass
Yeah not many people know it is there, guess I should add a wiki page for it
crimson cairn
as i said
keen compass
or see if one can be created
crimson cairn
there needs to be documentation
keen compass
Well there is not much to document for it other then just describing when it should be used and the advantages of using it and disadvantages of it
crimson cairn
cause people go out and ask questions
sick citrus
so anything that has commands or listeners is out of the picture
crimson cairn
when there isn't really clear documentation
and then they get harassed and treated like an idiot
keen compass
lmao
crimson cairn
like
"how do you NOT know about the most simple stuff"
im sorry, where's the documentation?
keen compass
oh well I don't expect everyone to know everything
I am not a fan of treating people like that
crimson cairn
"it's right here idiot!"
and then it's really bare bones written by a 13 y/o and incoherent
sick citrus
It's in the javadocs isn't it ? π
keen compass
only reason I know about it is because I have been around as long as bukkit has π
crimson cairn
makes me think of maven
timber barn
frost is bedrock here
crimson cairn
i feel bad for people who are just starting maven
keen compass
yes Weby it is, but if you look at the javadocs for it, there isn't much that is described
crimson cairn
like, if you're new, you wouldn't have an idea what maven does
and by looking at their main website, it doesn't really help either
sick citrus
Maven's great tho
crimson cairn
that's if you understand what it does, though
keen compass
I agree @crimson cairn they could do better on their documentation
sick citrus
So "PluginBase" : Extend this class if your plugin is not a javaplugin.
JavaPlugin : Represents a Java Plugin.
most basic description ever.
crimson cairn
i hate when these people dont explain things in laymans terms
sick citrus
holy crap file sending is slow
crimson cairn
it's like they expect beginners to already have all this prior-knowledge
keen compass
The thing though is that it doesn't describe the differences @sick citrus
crimson cairn
and then going on youtube doesn't help either
sick citrus
Just don't be a beginner, duh.
crimson cairn
exactly
sick citrus
Lol frostalf, I know
exactly
To be honest
I interpreted this as "use this if you use another language than Java for your plugins"
keen compass
lol
sick citrus
last time I saw it...
Also, my Player class is not a JavaPlugin, should it extend pluginBase ?
π
keen compass
maybe I should start making youtube videos to talk about the API
sick citrus
Yeah
tiny dagger
yeah create minecraft
sick citrus
The one thing that was absolutely missing when I started doing plugins was "How does bukkit and your plugin communicate", in leyman's term.
crimson cairn
BukkitRunnables the scheduler, the Player interface, the Entity interface, other utils
sick citrus
LIke what methods does bukkit call when something happens
keen compass
well, all you have online at the moment @frigid ember is forum staff
naive goblet
jeez
frigid ember
I have a channel on spigot
sick citrus
Does anyone still use the scheduler ?
naive goblet
Did I hear BukkitRunnable
crimson cairn
cause a lot of these youtube videos just do
"alright we're making a plugin that spams arrows out of your face, now you'll need to type this and this and this...."
sick citrus
Runnables are just perfect
crimson cairn
sorry bukkitrunnable is outdated
keen compass
@sick citrus plenty of plugins make use of the scheduler lol
naive goblet
BukkitRunnable is ewwww
crimson cairn
but you get the idea
keen compass
yeah
crimson cairn
but yea, a lot of these videos don't really go over stuff in the api
naive goblet
Runnable or BukkitTask sure but BukkitRunnable != usefulness
crimson cairn
and you simply dont learn
timber barn
im curious, which plugin? @frigid ember
keen compass
Alright, I will start on making some videos that goes over the API and some of the quirks that happens as well in regards to doing some things π
crimson cairn
and then you get low quality crap on spigotmc
sick citrus
@naive goblet BukkitTask is just a scheduled BukkitRunnable...
timber barn
thanks frost
crimson cairn
have a playlist
naive goblet
Still better
sick citrus
A task is what you get when you "run" a runnable.
keen compass
yeah some of them tutorial videos are not very good quality
keen compass
about the most you can do with those is just copy what they did
naive goblet
BukkitTask can fully replace BukkitRunnable and even better.
sick citrus
something that is absolutely definitely missing is a video about the change from data id to blockdata
like it's still a proper mess in my head about all those changes
keen compass
Ah, I can go over that
crimson cairn
yeah just go over the API
sick citrus
It used to be very easy
crimson cairn
and then make little quick demonstration plugins along the way
naive goblet
BukkitScheduler#runTaskLater(Consumer<BukkitTask>)
BukkitScheduler#runTaskLater(Runnable)
keen compass
I am not a fan that ID's were deprecated, but I can see why they were though
naive goblet
iirc BukkitRunnable is even deprecated there
keen compass
I mean for Mojang it solved a lot of problems for them
ID's can only go so high before you will end up needing 2 id's
and that just goes from something simple to twice as hard
crimson cairn
long
not everything in Java is backed by longs though
naive goblet
The best thing would to maybe use executor services
keen compass
for instance, array's and hashmaps have a limitation in how large they can be because they are backed by an Integer and not long
naive goblet
FatDemical
crimson cairn
looks better with the gold
idle zodiac
ye...
naive goblet
gold?
timber barn
ok then, keep your secrets
keen compass
It would be nice if Oracle would update the Java JVM to move things to be backed by longs instead of ints though
naive goblet
it's the ewwgreen
sick citrus
I mean for Mojang it solved a lot of problems for them
@keen compass Yeah definitely.
But it broke creative resourcepacks forever, and I'm still angry about that.
keen compass
Don't worry, Mojang killed my beloved API because of 1.8 π¦
sick citrus
And WHY THE FUCK do we still not have an easy-to-use NBT api in spigot ?
timber barn
lol
sick citrus
And why the heck can't we just settle on having resource-packs reading NBT tags ? Like "resourcepack-id: xxx, resourcepack-variant: yyy"
naive goblet
You got a point ngl
marsh nova
if you have more tasks than Integer.MAX_VALUE, something is wrong
if you have more tasks than Integer.MAX_VALUE - Integer.MIN_VALUE, something is really wrong
timber barn
π
sick citrus
with your JVM
marsh nova
so task IDs being int is not a problem
timber barn
lets test it out
marsh nova
If I had to guess I'd say they were removed because it's too similar to a magic value
but I never had a problem with them being ints
sick citrus
I'm not against magic values as long as they're documented
...and obviously if they don't change
naive goblet
Player#damage(Double.MAX_VALUE)
keen compass
magic values are not always bad
keen compass
I dislike when something gets deprecated becase "magic value" lol
and then no alternative is given
naive goblet
Yeah but I guess mercy is a thing
keen compass
not everything can be coded to not have a magic value somewhere
Well, if I do youtube videos, video quality may not be so great as well as I don't have a decent setup for doing video processing either lol
quality as in HD quality not quality as in the video substance lmao
naive goblet
I mean you got a yt channel?
keen compass
Well, some have clearly approved of me making some youtube videos that basically goes over the API and some of its less documented things. Such as the discussion earlier where some didn't know about PluginBase lol
tiny dagger
i feel like i'm going crazy but wasn't there an event that you could set the location of a player on join? π€
subtle blade
I dislike when something gets deprecated becase "magic value" lol
and then no alternative is given
MaterialData was a decent API to try and hide those magic values but man was it ever incomplete
hallow surge
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityMountEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
if(getent.getType() == EntityType.HORSE) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}``` i must be so stupid i dont get this am i registering the event wrong in my main class or something
tawdry venture
can somebody point out what's wrong with this code? it just doesn't show anything
Objective hp = e.getPlayer().getScoreboard().getObjective("skylist_hp");
if (hp == null)
hp = e.getPlayer().getScoreboard().registerNewObjective("skylist_hp", "health");
hp.setDisplayName("\u00a74\u2764");//a red heart
hp.setDisplaySlot(DisplaySlot.BELOW_NAME);
did u set the sb for the player?
tawdry venture
do I have to re set it after the modifications?
sudden elk
Hey Im having an issue with PersistentDataContainers... I can't seem to retrieve integers that I'm trying to store...
sudden elk
WIll do, just have to put them in a paste bin
hallow surge
almost as bad as my plugin
hallow surge
LOL
vernal spruce
bot abuse PepeHands
subtle blade
naive goblet
?paste
worldly heathBOT
naive goblet
hmmmm
keen compass
I think Cafebabe likes to mess with Choco
worldly heathBOT
naive goblet
?jd
worldly heathBOT
naive goblet
not that slow?
keen compass
@hallow surge you are testing with spigot right and not CB?
it could be because of the API rate limits for the bot being slow earlier
messages posted count towards that limit and for bots, messages are lesser priority
naive goblet
yeah
sudden elk
I'm having an issue with PersistentDataContainers, I can get a string but I can't retrieve anything else (Doubles, integers). I did some debugging and it seems as if it is setting Doubles and integers.
ItemUtils Class: https://paste.md-5.net/qipuxoveve.java
Setting: new ItemUtils(jewel).addJewelKey().addIdKey(id).addRarityKey(pickaxeJewels.getConfig().getString(path + "rarity")).addSuccessKey(success) .addMultiplierKey(pickaxeJewels.getConfig().getDouble(path + "multiplier")). addMinPickaxeLevelKey(pickaxeJewels.getConfig().getInt(path + "min-pickaxe-level")).addUJIDKey(ujid).addDiscoveredKey("false");
Getting: ```ItemStack item = e.getCurrentItem();
ItemMeta itemMeta = item.getItemMeta();
PersistentDataContainer container = itemMeta.getPersistentDataContainer();
System.out.print(container.get(ItemUtils.DISCOVERED_KEY, PersistentDataType.STRING));
System.out.print(container.get(ItemUtils.MULTIPLIER_KEY, PersistentDataType.DOUBLE));```
hallow surge
@keen compass yes im testing with spigot
keen compass
just making sure because those events are spigot only
hallow surge
shouldnt that code work tho π am i registering an event wrong xD
inland depot
could you send a screenshot/link to the code where the method is being registered?
also send your full method for handling that event
keen compass
@hallow surge I am not particularly sure why it isn't firing. It should be registered just like any other event
unless your code for that is incorrect? I guess go over the basics to ensure nothing is wrong
like check you are implementing listener, check that you are indeed registering the event in onEnable()
But if you want us to check, send the code as per usual
lime mango
Hi can anyone point me in the direction for the best quest plugin for my server thx in advance
frigid ember
Hey guys, can someone help me solve this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/map-zooming-help.438322/#post-3805712
keen compass
you need to add another render @frigid ember or replace the one that is there
maps can have more then one renderer
Best way, is to create 4 renderers to handle each of the zoom levels
frigid ember
How do I ignore the teleport from Player has moved too quickly
@keen compass so If I clear it like this? This is what Im doing currently
final WorldMap worldMap = (WorldMap) MinecraftServer.getServer().worlds.get(0).worldMaps.get(WorldMap.class,
"map_" + view.getId());
view.getRenderers().clear();
view.addRenderer(new Render(worldMap));
Yes, .clear() should remove the render
frigid ember
Thats what I'm doing but it's not working
keen compass
hmmm I will have to look at the api
been a while since I messed with maps
last time I really messed with them was like 1.7/1.8 when it suddenly became popular to make map art
XD
keen compass
ah right, then I am not going to be much help then. I only have 1.15 api at the moment
frigid ember
im getting a unexpected packet error with bungeecord
keen compass
but later tonight I will get 1.8 api to see what needs to be done
@frigid ember can you paste the error at the following link
?paste
frigid ember
how do u use a engnitmica4 with bungeecord
or does bungeecord not do modded servers
worldly heathBOT
keen compass
bungeecord does not do modded servers
frigid ember
why is that
keen compass
because mods work differently then plugins do
silk gate
bungee supports modded backend servers though, no?
sturdy oar
Y
silk gate
Ive had pixelmon behind bungee
naive goblet
Yeah that works iirc
sturdy oar
Although it's not usually recommend , you can do it
naive goblet
But you need waterfall then?
latent rock
any opinions on CMI?
sturdy oar
Bad
naive goblet
I actually made a plugin working as a mod and plugin and it was little trickier with all the abstraction and encapsulation I had to do
Good
latent rock
y
high basin
Just use reflecfion
naive goblet
You can get the features for free but it surely gives you a vary of good features and I believe the code is better there iirc
forest cobalt
essentials but paid?
naive goblet
βJust use reflectionβ
keen compass
have no idea what CMI is
sturdy oar
It's not even open source
high basin
Spigot is a an abstraction
naive goblet
Just decompile and look for yourself
latent rock
yeah but performance wise
frigid ember
pretty much a $15 essentials with database support?
forest cobalt
decompiled code != source code
naive goblet
Trollzer whatβs your point?
latent rock
ok
naive goblet
loid yes you can still see how itβs built up or what?
sturdy oar
It probably is obfuscated
forest cobalt
Sure but itβs not gonna be the same
naive goblet
Sure it is but we can still find if it uses static wrong etc
frigid ember
wheres sponge.jar
sturdy oar
From Sponge website let me guess
keen compass
@frigid ember sponge is an entirely different implementation, they have a website
forest cobalt
Still donβt know if the compiler optimized shitty stuff away
naive goblet
Well, I mean Essentials code ainβt a beautiful look directly so the chance of CMI being better isnβt zero
forest cobalt
yeah ik but you canβt be sure
naive goblet
I was generalizing Essentials and the X ver?
sturdy oar
yeah they're not the same
naive goblet
loid no but Iβd certainly think that
forest cobalt
EssentialsX is largely the same codebase tho iirc
naive goblet
^
keen compass
Generally the java compiler will do little in the way of optimizations unless it is told to
naive goblet
afaik itβs just a fork
keen compass
that is why there is JIT
forest cobalt
JIT is cool
keen compass
as long as it has the information it needs to do what it needs to
which if you told the java compiler to optimize something, JIT can't work like it needs to
so, its like a catch 22 with that lmao. Either you optimize using the compiler and hope that your optimization works on all platforms or let the JIT handle it.
in most cases JIT will do a better job then you can since it knows the target platform
forest cobalt
either way decompiled code can be quite a lot different than original
sturdy oar
jit is jni?
forest cobalt
just in time compilation
keen compass
@forest cobalt depends, in most cases the majority of the code will not be all that different. Some things are lost like generics for instance.
keen compass
its all readable if you understand it
forest cobalt
and then if itβs obfuscated to smithereens, which it probably is
sturdy oar
Well there are more advanced obfuscators that turn java into bytecode
Then it becomes hell
bronze marten
ZKM :)
keen compass
even then if you know how to read bytecode it is still readable
I routinely look at bytecode all the time
sturdy oar
Paramorphism
bronze marten
F
forest cobalt
some people think their shitty obfuscation will hide Ctrl + F > βsetOpβ
keen compass
I mean you could go as far as ASM if you wanted and ASM is still readable so as long as you understand it
hoary parcel
You quickly reach a point where it's not worth it
keen compass
yep
bronze marten
some people think their shitty obfuscation will hide Ctrl + F > βsetOpβ
@forest cobalt Just do reflection + string obfuscation, will make it a lot harder
keen compass
lol
sturdy oar
I have fruit obfuscation..m π
forest cobalt
iβve seen people obfuscate their code to hell then the setop is right there
bronze marten
i said harder not impossible lol
keen compass
sure, but the people you are making it harder for, isn't all that hard for them to begin with
hoary parcel
String obfuscation is the easiest obfuscation to reverse
sturdy oar
Nobody can't beat Apple.banana(Orange orange)
hoary parcel
And it's 100% reverseable too, flow obfuscation isn't always
forest cobalt
key has to be there if strings are encrypted
hoary parcel
Heck, you don't even need to write code to crack string obfuscation
Just copy and paste stuff
proud quest
Hello, i am having a Massive issue and i need help
keen compass
?ask
worldly heathBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
proud quest
i have tried to get rid of my current Help list and replace it with a better one
but this one Refuses to leave
keen compass
o.O
proud quest
i simply Don't want normal players to see every single command
sturdy oar
MiniDigger I am currently a security plugin, but I'm not really sure if it should be open or closed source
forest cobalt
wat
sturdy oar
tab-completion : -1
hoary parcel
Why should it be closed source
keen compass
I knew it, you were a plugin all along @sturdy oar
sturdy oar
Well I guess that's my idea as well
proud quest
is there ANYONE that is willing to help me out
keen compass
I am sure someone will, just have to be patient. But really does it matter if your players can see certain commands though?
I mean as long as they don't have the permissions for the command, not like they can use them anyways
proud quest
it does when trying to get permissions to be set up
sturdy oar
I don't even have a proper obfuscators so I think I'll just keep everything opensource for everyone
keen compass
@sturdy oar not like obfuscation is going to help with a security plugin anyways
proud quest
instead of having to search through 31 PAGES
keen compass
in fact I would bet it would hurt the performance of it more then help it
tiny dagger
^
sturdy oar
But what license would you recommend
proud quest
the help menu is that orange help menu, and i have even installed AdvancedHelp
keen compass
or if you really don't care what people do with it, go for MIT
proud quest
and it doesn't replace the current help menu
sturdy oar
Yeah I have mit
frigid ember
no license is great
keen compass
lol
sturdy oar
Are you dumb
frigid ember
proud quest
essentials doesn't work either
frigid ember
if i ignored all unknown teleport events, would that cause issues for lets say an anticheat
keen compass
@proud quest I can't really help as I am not familiar with plugins that do what you want
cause issues in what way?
are you developing an anticheat?
frigid ember
yes, but the Player moved to quickly teleports the player which makes bypass
proud quest
so there is NO Secret setting that i have to turn off
keen compass
player moved too quickly happens under certain circumstances
proud quest
to be able to Change this horrible menu?
frigid ember
i never said i was going to release it
tiny dagger
frCheats incoming choco
forest cobalt
anticheats are memes at this point
keen compass
I love how Choco comes out of the shadows at very specific times certain topics are being discussed
frigid ember
and at least its not thewoosh or funke's tutorial
subtle blade
lol my girlfriend's been keeping me busy lately so I've been like... in and out of chat the last week
forest cobalt
whatβs a girlfriend
hoary parcel
Ah so it's offical now
subtle blade
It is 
keen compass
Guess will be seeing less of Choco now π
not always a bad thing to have good things going on in IRL
proud quest
Yes exactly, Less complicated = good, and This is why i want to get rid of this current help system
proud quest
but clearly no one here is willing to help
subtle blade
afaik you can disable the help system with the help.yml?
proud quest
cannot find up anything online,
subtle blade
I missed out on a lot of conversation here though so maybe you tried that
hoary parcel
Less complicated = good, that's why I got rid of my last girlfriend, lol
Bukkit has a help map, you can programmatically access that iirc
proud quest
as far as i am aware i DID Turn it off
@subtle blade it is command-topics-in-master-index, what i got to set to False, right?
keen compass
@proud quest Keep in mind, not everyone here is familiar with 100% of everything. Have to be patient and just wait for the right people to get online and provide help π
We are all volunteers here after all
π
subtle blade
Well you can remove command help pages by setting ignore-plugins: All
(I assume that was what you wanted)
proud quest
yes but here is the issue, i have been scouring the web, for 2 hours now, and cannot find ANYTHING
Choco, i want to fully replace it
keen compass
@subtle blade Basically the person wants to remove commands so that players can't see every possible command on the server. IE, restrict what they can see in regards to it.
subtle blade
subtle blade
Was going to say - had assumed there were plugins to do that for you
keen compass
could just restrict that command usage
do the plugins you have used, have their own command for help?
bronze marten
Can you use commands.yml to rewrite the help command to the specific plugin help command?
bronze marten
Idk i remember i did something similar, coul be wrong
keen compass
Well, you can negate perms for commands on the server
such as the help command
--bukkit.commands.help
that was why I was asking if the plugins that Jim had tried provided their own help pages
proud quest
it should
keen compass
then you could just negate that perm for your players
give them the perm for the help command that the plugin provides
and it should accomplish what you are wanting
proud quest
let me try that in a sec
frigid ember
so i got something called velocity
but its saying to enable ip fowarding how do u do that
subtle blade
This is not the Velocity server
Ask at their means of support. We have no understanding of how their software works
runic wadi
tux is a nice guy and velocity is better than waterfall and bungee
but you must go seek him
runic wadi
well tux is a person, not an it
proud quest
@subtle blade Is there any way to turn off this forceful help list
so something like AdvancedHelp can take it over
i have taken a screenshot
this is what needs to be turned off
frigid ember
Hey guys, is there a way to update map corners
frigid ember
i need help
proud quest
i have been at the same problem for LITERAL HOURS
frigid ember
so im using velocity but it keeps saying i need forge to enter the game
proud quest
3 HOURS Stuck with this issue
strong bear
Is it considered as a valid bug report? -- Using WorldGuard plugin with the command /stack, give yourself a full inventory of cakes then /stack it (repeat it a second time to get atleast 64) then put them in a shulker box. Break the shulkerbox and you'll see the contents as "Cake x1, Cake x1, Cake x1" and so on...
Can't test on a vanilla server as this isn't possible (or maybe) to get a stack of cakes in one slot
high basin
What happens when you place it?
wanton vine
so I reset my xp and found out that the placeholder %player_total_exp% takes all exp you have ever earned. So If I have 400 exp and I buy the book for 400, it stays at 400 even tho my true exp is 0. Why dont they have one that just resets? or is there a placeholder for exp that resets?
frigid ember
@keen compass what causes it to be a circle though?
for (int x = 1; x < 128; ++x) {
for (int y = 1; y < 128; ++y) {
canvas.setPixel(x, y, worldMap.colors[y * 128 + x]);
}
}
I don't get why it wouldn't stay as a square
proud quest
Please, i beg of you
is there ANYONE here that can help me out
i have scoured online, over and over again, NOTHING!
and No one here wants to help out
frigid ember
Disabling /help?
proud quest
Yes, Disabling this FORCED help system
i do NOT! Want normal players to see EVERY Single command
Look at this! this is from a normal player's perspective!
31 PAGES!
runic wadi
@proud quest this is a spigot problem. brigadier doesn't do that π
proud quest
SO WHAT am i supposed to do!
I Want this issue to be gone!
i have been trying to get this horrible issue to be gone, for 3 hours now
tried Multiple plugins
frigid ember
ok
proud quest
nothing works
proud quest
AdvancedHelp, also Doesn't work
frigid ember
so someone can help him and someone can help me
https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Commands.yml
bukkit.command.help
This is the permission, you can take away the permission using a permissions plugin, if your using Essentials you can modify help, you can put the command under ban: in commands.yml,
or put this in your help.yml
ignore-plugins:
- PluginNameOne
- PluginNameTwo
- PluginNameThree
i need help
why velocity isnt recognizing
my client as a forge client
proud quest
No we do not
frigid ember
runic wadi
forge and velocity have nothing to do with spigot
frigid ember
@proud quest this is in help.yml
wanton vine
@proud quest uou can use deluxe menus to grab the help command and make a custom GUI that they will see showing them help info instead of the list in chat
proud quest
i already tried a different plugin
and it does NOT Replace the help menu
i tried AdvancedHelp
proud quest
Yes, and What do i need to do, to FULLY Replace it with one from a Different plugin
because honestly, it feels like its trying to FORCE it onto people
frigid ember
what
proud quest
That this awful help system from bukkit is forcing itself onto people
refusing to budge
frigid ember
No...
frigid ember
It's not the plugins that don't work, its you thats using them wrong
proud quest
HOW AM I USING IT WRONG
proud quest
Something not working isn't always the Users fault
frigid ember
I never said that it was
proud quest
yet you are blaming ME
frigid ember
What have you tried
proud quest
I have done Everything you have said and Nothing worked
frigid ember
So your doing it wrong then
proud quest
i have messed with that help.yml before
frigid ember
Paste your config here
proud quest
yes
and THAT is what it says
for Me
LITERALLY EXACTLY That
and guess what
it does not work
@frigid ember is that my fault then?
frigid ember
YES
proud quest
HOW IS IT MY FAULT
frigid ember
?paste
worldly heathBOT
torn robin
you can't if you manually generated it
i imagine you can setup a custom maprender and fill it in with the plugin
though it seems like more work than necessary
frigid ember
I have but it's not working
@Override
public void render(MapView map, MapCanvas canvas, Player player) {
int mY = maxValue(map.getScale());
for (int x = 1; x < 128; ++x) {
for (int y = 1; y < 128; ++y) {
canvas.setPixel(x, y, worldMap.colors[y * 128 + x]);
}
}
worldMap.decorations.clear();
map.setCenterX(player.getLocation().getBlockX());
map.setCenterZ(player.getLocation().getBlockZ());
map.setWorld(player.getWorld());
}
public int maxValue(Scale scale) {
int s = 0;
switch (scale) {
case CLOSEST:
s = 0;
break;
case CLOSE:
s = 2;
break;
case FAR:
s = 4;
break;
case NORMAL:
s = 8;
break;
default:
s = 16;
break;
}
return s;
}
Note to everybody, Don't listen to Phase, he Clearly wants to decide For you, instead of wanting to listen to what you want
i have mentioned a Billion times that i want to Get rid of that awful bukkit help system and Replace it with a plugin, And all he thinks is that i want to Edit that bukkit help system
all the help he has given is to try to get me to Edit it instead of Disable it
and then calling Me arrogant when he refuses to listen to what i want
torn robin
Jim your personal experience is unrelated to what he's asking
frigid ember
proud quest
it doesn't change the fact that he has been Incredibly rude towards me
torn robin
@frigid ember where are you getting worldMap?
frigid ember
That litterally replaces /help system but he got mad
final WorldMap worldMap = (WorldMap) MinecraftServer.getServer().worlds.get(0).worldMaps.get(WorldMap.class,
"map_" + view.getId());
and is what you showed me in the picture the result of that code?
frigid ember
Yeah
proud quest
Phaze, you Clearly aren't listening, i don't want to Edit the text file, i want it OUT OF THE WAY! GONE! DISABLED!
torn robin
I'm not 100% sure how maps generate but you should probably debug what worldMap looks like
@proud quest you should bring those to PMs, it's unrelated.
proud quest
He blocked me because he REFUSED TO listen and instead kept whining about the same thing
frigid ember
imagine blocking someone on discord
torn robin
@frigid ember are you sure worldMap is the entire world map?
proud quest
i am done with this shit, Thanks for nothing, assholes
grand aurora
Hello, I am having some problems with getting my plugin to add and remove people from scoreboard teams
runic wadi
he's not mad at you guys, he's mad at his hairline for receding like the 1920s
torn robin
@grand aurora what have you tried? Do you have any code yet?
grand aurora
Yes: sb.getTeam("ctf-blue").addEntry(p.getDisplayName()); is what I am using to add people to a team. sb is my reference to the current scoreboard. Is the username the proper string to use for addEntry?
Also, whenever I add a player manually inside of minecraft using /team join and then print out the scoreboard teams in spigot, the team is still empty, but when I create or remove a team, the change is reflected
frigid ember
i would just watch a bunch of tutorials about scoreboards on youtube
grand aurora
I have been reading the docs on scoreboards but I can't figure out why it isn't working
frigid ember
have you tried some youtube videos
torn robin
It should work it looks like, I would try using p.getName() instead of DisplayName
frigid ember
il have a look
grand aurora
Still doesn't work
grand aurora
Quick question: Does using a new scoreboard have any effect, or should I always get the main scoreboard (I only need one but I don't really understand how multiple works)
I am using manager.getMainScoreboard()
frigid ember
i would really encourage you to watch that video
so that you have some idea on how it works
grand aurora
I watched it, but I am not using a scoreboard for display purposes, I am using it to track teams and use selectors for a capture the flag game
frigid ember
but did the video answer your quick question
grand aurora
No, but I just looked it up on the API docs and that answered it. The video was a good resource though that I will probably use in the future
dusty topaz
answer
frigid ember
why wont minecraft download my resource pack
it said it downloaded it
but nothing changed
since when does minecraft download resource packs
its a server resource pack
it should
u need to allow it
though
grand aurora
Thanks, now I have a better idea of what it could be. Do you have to re-set the scoreboard as the modified one?
frigid ember
i think if you have a scoreboard object calling methods that start with add or set should update the scoreboard automatically
grand aurora
Okay, I think the problem is that it doesn't, because I call addEntry and then check immediately after and the entry has not been added
grand aurora
I am doing it the same way but it doesn't work
frigid ember
let me see
hallow surge
okay back at it again
package me.y2k.antidonkeydupe;
import org.bukkit.entity.Entity;
import org.bukkit.entity.EntityType;
import org.bukkit.event.EventHandler;
import org.bukkit.event.Listener;
import org.bukkit.event.entity.EntityInteractEvent;
import org.spigotmc.event.entity.EntityMountEvent;
public class AntiDonkey implements Listener {
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityMountEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
if(getent.getType() == EntityType.HORSE) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}
@EventHandler
public void onMount(EntityInteractEvent e) {
Entity getent = e.getEntity();
if(getent.getType() == EntityType.HORSE) {
e.setCancelled(true);
}
}
}``` ^ Event Class
```java
package me.y2k.antidonkeydupe;
import org.bukkit.ChatColor;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;
public class DupeMain extends JavaPlugin {
@Override
public void onEnable() {
getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Anti Donkey Dupe Enabled");
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new AntiDonkey(), this);
}
@Override
public void onDisable() {
getServer().getConsoleSender().sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Anti Donkey Dupe Disabled");
}
}``` Main Class
Goal: Goal is to stop players from being able to ride horses and it doesnt seem to be workingwow
hallow surge
exactly
wanton vine
so I reset my xp and found out that the placeholder %player_total_exp% takes all exp you have ever earned. So If I have 400 exp and I buy the book for 400, it stays at 400 even tho my true exp is 0. Why dont they have one that just resets? or is there a placeholder for exp that resets?
grand aurora
Update: It seems that the entry is added to the team, but as soon as I reference the team from a different context it fails
velvet halo
EntityType.Donkey π
frigid ember
@grand aurora im trying it out now
grand aurora
Wait
I just deleted another random team we had (that wasn't doing anything) and now it works
frigid ember
@hallow surge getent.getType().equals(EntityType.HORSE) maybe that will work?
frigid ember
i dont think it will actually make a difference
frigid ember
maybe for String
frigid ember
event i meant
hallow surge
yea its the right event
a horse is an entity
and im using the interact event as well
chrome heron
Are there a method to disable villager trading in 1.15 spigot
chrome heron
are there a plugin
marsh nova
if you are not adverse to Skript you can use that
if you have a very basic knowledge of Java you can do it very, very easily
brisk mango
@frigid ember enums are compared using == since they are a static finals, meaning there is only one of them
and there is a difference when using == or .equals
high basin
Yes
brisk mango
yes, but since they are values, its common practice to use ==
marsh nova
either way works
high basin
.equals can cause null pointer exception
brisk mango
no, it cant
frigid ember
i meant in that scenario it wont make a difference
marsh nova
lol
high basin
== sometimes doesn't work
brisk mango
I mean
marsh nova
any invocation on a null object causes a NPE
runic wadi
public final boolean equals(Object other) {
return this==other;
}
```this is the implementation for equals in enum. what the FUCK is that lack of spaces around the `==`πΏ hmhm
brisk mango
no its not
marsh nova
it's not hideous
runic wadi
this == other
much better
literally incestuous comparison
they're so close together
marsh nova
this really isn't a case where extra readability is required
that's just writing boilerplate essentially
marsh nova
okay
marsh nova
if you are a better judge of subjective value
marsh nova
so you know, I do prefer == for enums, but it isn't a mistake or anything to use #equals
frigid ember
yeah u have to add space there
brisk mango
its not a mistake, but its something like naming convetions
its a common practice and you should use it @marsh nova
marsh nova
there's no convention on using ==
brisk mango
i said its like
marsh nova
it is also a common practice to use #equals
brisk mango
not on enums
marsh nova
yes it is
brisk mango
its not a common practice
marsh nova
a lot of people do
brisk mango
wasting time arguing with stupid person
brisk mango
you are not being correct, .equals on enum is not a common practice but w/e
marsh nova
it is a common practice
using reference equality is common also
they are both widely used
i believe there's a stackoverflow question on this very matter
frigid ember
i actually used equals for strings and it causes nullpointerexception when string is equal to null
brisk mango
You know, that .equals can actually return false when comparing enums?
dont tell me its a common practice, no1 uses .equals on enums its just stupid
frigid ember
in c u have function called strcmp which is similar to compateTo in java
marsh nova
that .equals can actually return false when comparing enums
it will return false if they aren't equal
brisk mango
Its safer at runtime
marsh nova
which only uses a reference condition under the hood
so why would you assert the patently incorrect claim that "nah it can return false even if its equal"?
You should not mislead others so
brisk mango
Im not misleading others, it actually can return false you can google that up.
brisk mango
anyway you know when using == is faster, and safer at run time?
youre actually brain damaged
marsh nova
you claim that invoking a method which checks for reference equality will produce a different result from using it directly
so you know, I do prefer
==for enums, but it isn't a mistake or anything to use #equals
allow me to quote myself
Using #equals is perfectly fine
brisk mango
it can
marsh nova
Last time I checked Spigot plugin developers are not writing highly sensitive network-level code where every method call layer matters
runic wadi
wtf even is this discussion about
marsh nova
user claimed that invoking a method which checks for reference equality will produce a different result from using it directly
nah it can return false even if its equal
- temedy
runic wadi
the only difference is the method can throw an NPE while the identity comparison can't
that is it
frigid ember
Object1 == Object2
runic wadi
nothing else is different
frigid ember
as simple as that
marsh nova
Precisely, which is why I had to correct his odd claim that the true/false results will be different
brisk mango
@marsh nova It can be different, for example when you would do if(enum.equals(null)) then it would throw a NPE, but if you would be using the equality operator it would just return false
its not the same
runic wadi
using .equals on an enum, which is a singleton, is very gross
brisk mango
.equals() can return false at runtime
runic wadi
don't do that
marsh nova
obviously you would include a null check if you were dealing with null enum values