Gaming laptop €1500 budget

[robust mural]

Hi!
I basically have all my specs down, I'm going with Elimina 17.3" laptop with an RTX 4060.
My only question is should I have it at 16GB RAM or 32GB.
If PCSpecialist doesn't solder it to the motherboard I could go with 16GB and upgrade to 32GB later down the road.
Everything else is fine and I actually manage to be in my budget very well.
Thanks in advance,
Miley.

[verbal vortex]

If you can afford it go 32GB. 16GB isn’t enough these days.

[robust mural]

I guess the pro gamers here are right hahaha.
I don't really play AAA titles but I do stream so maybe I should go for 32GB right off the bat.

[verbal vortex]

Saves messing around in the near future and you’ll notice the difference 🙂

[robust mural]

My current laptop is basically dying. It has decent specs but because it has been used so much in the past 2.5 years my stream crashes when I play a YouTube video. Poor guy can't handle much anymore.
Once Human lags if I join a VC.

Also only 8GB of RAM which could be the culprit for most of those issues

[verbal vortex]

Ah least this new one will last a while then 🙂 worth stretching budget as much as you can for longevity reasons. My wife has a 4060 laptop and that gpu handles everything thrown at it 🙂

[marble ginkgo]

Definately 8GB RAM causing them issues

[robust mural]

Let me pull up the old specs rq so you guys get the gist

I know it has a 3060 but I don't remember the CPU

i5-10300H

This old one is getting an upgrade to 16GB pretty soon. We're not giving up on it entirely, it is still fine for general work and stuff

New laptop will have 13th gen i7 🙂

[marble ginkgo]

Very nice, I swapped from intel to AMD this year

I will never look back 😄

[robust mural]

I know nothing about AMD
I only understand Intel numbers. i7 is better than i5 and the first 1 or 2 numbers refer to the generation.

[robust mural]

So this is a 10th gen i5

[fallow kernel]

Why 10th gen?

Maybe it is worth starting from scratch to see what's what

[woeful gull]

The old oen is a10th gen

[glossy steppe]

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[verbal vortex]

They’re talking about their old laptop

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Oh and I read rakk’s comment, I’ll get my coat.

[fallow kernel]

Half reading, half dissing you and half killing zombos...numbers don't add up but that is my excuse

[wind nimbus]

an i5 isn't automatically worse than an i7 or i9 in the same generation, it's a bit like comparing a bike to a truck, and saying the truck is better because it has more horsepower, it all comes down to purpose, the i5 will be a better option for gaming, while the i7 is better for productivity.

is there a reason for the Elimina over another laptop? or is it just for the screen size?

[robust mural]

The screen size, yes.

It's the biggest option

My current laptop has 17.4"

If you’re building primarily for gaming and sticking to a budget, an i5 is usually plenty. But if you want to future-proof or do additional multitasking, an i7 gives a bit more headroom. For a purely gaming-focused rig, an i5 offers a great value; for gaming plus streaming or higher resolutions, i7 is a good investment.

I'm a streamer so i7 is better based on what ChatGPT says

Performance: In general, i7s are better than i5s for gaming because they have more cores and threads, which helps in CPU-intensive games and multitasking (like gaming while streaming). Modern i7 processors often come with more cache and slightly higher clock speeds, which can give a modest FPS boost in demanding titles or when paired with high-end GPUs.

[wind nimbus]

I wouldn't trust chat GPU if it said pain is painful until I tested it for myself.

but it is correct, with a higher cache it will help smooth the FPS out

[robust mural]

Yeah I'll stick with my planned setup then. 13th gen i7 with an RTX 4060

[unkempt matrix]

Getting an intel cpu for gaming in 2024

[verbal vortex]

My intel cpu is fine 🙂 so is the wife’s, so are a lot of people with intel CPU’s.

[robust mural]

Twitch streaming definitely puts a bit more demand on your setup! In that case, I'd say that going with a CPU that has strong multi-core performance, like the Intel Core i7-13620H, would give you an edge in balancing gaming and streaming. Streaming apps and game capture software tend to utilize multiple cores heavily, so having those extra high-performance cores could make things smoother, especially when you’re streaming demanding games.

But if power efficiency matters (say, if you stream on the go and need solid battery life), then the Ryzen 7 8845HS still packs enough punch for gaming and streaming, and it’s a better choice for efficiency.

Overall, though, the Intel would likely be the stronger choice for streaming on a reliable setup.

I'm going with a laptop because it is cheaper and with a good cooling stand I don't think I will have issues. But the laptop will be always plugged in which means Intel for the win here

[marble ginkgo]

I stream on a 7800X3D with no issues, if your cpu has enough resource it’s going to sufficient at its job

For gaming AMD is the way to go and I now see this after years of Intel

[wind nimbus]

a laptop will always have worse price/performance, but a laptop also is far more mobile and takes less space, in the end it's your money, and I imagine you gave it some thought to opt for a laptop over some flavor of desktop

[marble ginkgo]

Cooling on a laptop even with a stand will always be an issue

[wind nimbus]

there is a rather bougie cooling stand that actually keeps the temps quite low, but it is loudish

[marble ginkgo]

Oh for sure but at the point how portable does your system come when your lugging a bucket of water around 😂

[wind nimbus]

no like a cooling stand, not the liquid cooler thing some laptops can take

[marble ginkgo]

I think the laptop is a great choice and for yourself it seems like you’ve took time to get the right criteria but just for gaming and now being turned to a red gang man,AMD for gaming forever

[marble ginkgo]

Ah I thought you meant them water coolers you can get from PCS, I’ll take a look as my friend needs a new cooling stand for his laptop that is over heating, mind posting me link to it in the other discord?

[unkempt matrix]

13620H would give you an edge in streaming.
Where did you learn this?

I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding about how power efficiency affects laptops. If a cpu is inefficient in a desktop pc, you just put a bigger cooler on it, if your cpu is inefficient in a laptop, it either, throttles or overheats.

It's not just battery life that's affected. Heat output is where the excess energy is going

[unkempt matrix]

If price is your concern I would strongly suggest not getting a laptop.

[robust mural]

That is from ChatGPT

[robust mural]

I can't afford a desktop with 13th gen i7 and an RTX 4060. That would be €2000

That is why I went with a laptop because then I could get it at €1488

[robust mural]

With a cooling stand and carry case included

[wind nimbus]

I'm sure you'll be happy with the choice, it'll have a smaller footprint in the room

[verbal vortex]

Yeah you’ll love it Miley it’s a beautiful laptop 🙂 enjoy! When you purchasing ?

[unkempt matrix]

Mobile chips are not equivalent to their full power counter parts. They often have less than 50% of the power budget. Maybe you don't need an rtx 4060 and 13th gen Intel cpu?

[unkempt matrix]

Welp that explains a lot

[robust mural]

Currently I have a 10th gen i5 and an RTX 3060.
RAM is small only 8GB.
Laptop overheats even with a cooling stand and built in fans turned on max. I figured if I'm upgrading, I might as well UPGRADE.

Poor guy can't even stream a YouTube video, stream crashes.
Can stream games like Kingdom Hearts but can't be in VC while streaming, then everything lags

[robust mural]

Early December. That's when I will have saved up

[unkempt matrix]

Bummer about the 8 gigs of memory in your old laptop. Beyond that you're not getting much of an upgrade.

However it sounds like you've made up your mind so congrats!

[robust mural]

I'm giving it to a friend but I will upgrade the RAM to 16GB before I do so