Please could you let me know if this PC is worth it | PCSpecialist | Page 1

reef pewterBOT Jul 2, 2024, 3:18 PM

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Thanks for creating a spec thread!

Please be sure to include answers to the following questions so people can assist you quicker.

What is the purpose of your PC/laptop? (e.g. gaming, general work, 3D rendering)
What monitor resolution will you be using? (e.g. 1080p, 1440p, 4k)
What is your budget including currency symbol? (e.g. £2,000, 1000€)
Which country are you purchasing from? (Note that we only operate in the UK and Europe)
Any brand preferences?

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 3:24 PM

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Please make sure you answer the BOT's questions, also note, we can only advise on PCSpecilaist builds so will not be advising anywhere else at all

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 3:25 PM

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sorry did not see the questions

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I will be using it for gaming

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I'm using a 1440p monitor, my budget is a maximum of 1500. I'm in the uk and I would prefer an AMD cpu

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 3:50 PM

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What's the refresh rate on your monitor?

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 3:53 PM

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ornate arrow What's the refresh rate on your monitor?

165hz

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 3:54 PM

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AAA titles or eSports?

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 3:55 PM

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Sorry ?

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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They were basically asking what sorts of games do/will you play

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Oh sorry lol. I'll probably mainly play rainbow 6 siege, valorant, minecraft maybe fortnite

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 3:59 PM

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Yeah it's overkill for those games but it will last a while.

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You can dabble into high demand games and be fine too.

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R6 will be 400+ FPS lol.

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Should try out Cyberpunk or RDR2 to see true beauty.

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Oh nice ok thanks. Is it worth the price then ? Also will I need to add a harddrive as it only has SSD

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 4:06 PM

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No.

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HDD are pretty much obsolete lmao.

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Try and get the highest space NVME you can afford.

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PCIE 4 isn't that expensive these days.

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Okay, thanks very much ! (:

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 4:16 PM

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Often if you can wait a better more tailored machine cna be designed for your specific circumstances though - I'm no good at speccing up machines though

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Hopefully a few of the guys who are good at speccing machines up may have some time to help

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 4:19 PM

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It's better to custom build but if you can't wait then the ready to ship pc isn't a bad idea.

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 4:22 PM

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olive sable Often if you can wait a better more tailored machine cna be designed for your sp...

Oh nice, yeah I'm in no rush to get it right now so can always wait a bit

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 4:22 PM

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ornate arrow It's better to custom build but if you can't wait then the ready to ship pc isn'...

Is it cheaper to build my own one ? I have no idea how i'd assemble it lol

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 4:22 PM

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You can build it yourself by buying parts.

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Or you could spec it up on PCS and get it shipped.

reef pewterBOT Jul 2, 2024, 4:23 PM

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gleaming dagger Jul 2, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Just keep the above in mind

ornate arrow Jul 2, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Ah right.

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Sorry.

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 4:23 PM

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gleaming dagger Just keep the above in mind

Sorry I forgot

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 7:32 PM

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elfin current Sorry I forgot

Ahem, I just deleted your other thread because it was from a PCS competitor ......

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:35 PM

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olive sable Ahem, I just deleted your other thread because it was from a PCS competitor .......

Sorry, can I make one just asking what GPU is better instead ??

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 7:37 PM

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You cant just base your whole new PCs components off one thing (ie the GPU) you really need the whole spec but we cannot help if it is not a PCS build.

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:39 PM

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olive sable You cant just base your whole new PCs components off one thing (ie the GPU) you ...

Oh ok but I could also make the same PC on PCS , no ?

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 7:40 PM

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Well spec-up a PCS build and poeple will be happy to look at it for you

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:41 PM

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I have made one but it doesn't work when I copy the link

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 7:42 PM

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Are you pressing 'proceed' from your config, then 'post to forums' to get to the page where it shows your specs?
If not, no you wont get the right link. You need to follow those instructions and copy the link from below the spec list

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Oh no I wasn't, thank you lol

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:45 PM

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olive sable Are you pressing 'proceed' from your config, then 'post to forums' to get to the...

I don't see post to forums anywhere

gleaming dagger Jul 2, 2024, 7:46 PM

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Do your config -> Proceed -> Scroll down -> Post spec to Forums

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elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:47 PM

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I haven't got that anywhere

gleaming dagger Jul 2, 2024, 7:47 PM

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Then you did not press 'Proceed'

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:48 PM

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I definitely did

gleaming dagger Jul 2, 2024, 7:53 PM

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Seems like something's iffy with your browser then

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:56 PM

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Could I just write the specs in myself then ?

gleaming dagger Jul 2, 2024, 7:56 PM

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I'd do a copy pasta

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 7:57 PM

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OK thankyu

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Oh is that still a next day one? dont think you get the post to forums option with them, but the top link for it should work as they are mostly unconfigurable

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Only changes you can make to those are peripherals/external stuff to the PC/delivery options

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 8:00 PM

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olive sable Oh is that still a next day one? dont think you get the post to forums option wi...

I'm not sure, I clicked on configure a pc

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Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000T RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME X670-P WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER - HDMI, DP, LHR
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Get a discount code for 20% off select peripherals at Corsair.com
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
DeepCool AK400 Performance CPU Cooler ZERO DARK

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should i use 4070 super, 7800XT or 7900 GRE for the gpu ?

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 8:04 PM

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And what is your budget again, originally you said 1500 but that screenie above shows somewhat more than that

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And as I pointed out briefly in the other thread, we kinda need to see the whole spec

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 8:05 PM

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Idk what you mean that is everything in it ?

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What else is there?

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I copied the whole thing

olive sable Jul 2, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Warranty, delivery options - as this affects the amount spent - talking of which what is your actual budget?

elfin current Jul 2, 2024, 8:10 PM

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Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days

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Well it was 2000, 1500 on pc and 500 on a new monitor, keybaord , mouse and headset

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But I don't mind spending more on the pc because I do have a monitor, keyboard and mouse they are just old

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Also would it be worth getting ryzen 7 7700 or stick to ryzen 5 7600?

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 7:03 AM

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more cores is not more better, the 7600 is just fine for gaming

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from the above spec, you're likely better off with the TUF b650 board, and it should save some money while you're at it

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 7:17 AM

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elfin current But I don't mind spending more on the pc because I do have a monitor, keyboard a...

for now it would be better to use the old stuff, and upgrade those as you go, and invest more into the PC now, so would that mean you can go as far as 2 grand for the PC?

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 8:23 AM

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true imp more cores is not more better, the 7600 is just fine for gaming

okay, thank you

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 8:24 AM

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true imp for now it would be better to use the old stuff, and upgrade those as you go, an...

Yea if there is no need for upgrading my keyboard and stuff then I can put about 2000 into the pc

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 8:25 AM

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I'll spec a PC for you soon then, need to be on break, and please don't ping on reply every time

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 8:26 AM

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Okay thank you

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 8:29 AM

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Case
PCS SPECTRUM II ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days

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since the budget allows for more, I went with the best gaming CPU around right now,

the GPU is also a pretty solid AMD option,

and the storage has a separate drive for windows to be fat and greedy on, that allows the system overall to stay as fast as possible as the the more full an OS drive gets, the slower it gets

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on average the 7900GRE is better than the 4070 super, and still costs less

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 11:00 AM

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Wow thanks very much

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So is it not worth getting a 4070 super then?

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I feel like i've heard not very good stuff about the AMD gpu's but idk

olive sable Jul 3, 2024, 11:03 AM

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elfin current I feel like i've heard not very good stuff about the AMD gpu's but idk

If you look on the image above provided by DrLeft you can see the 7900GRE that he picked is higher than the 4070 Super

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AMD used to have a lot of driver issues, but that was a good number of years ago now, so doesnt really apply anymore

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 11:16 AM

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olive sable AMD used to have a lot of driver issues, but that was a good number of years ago...

Ah ok, thank you. I was just worried about it getting hotter and having higher power consumption

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 11:19 AM

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the power use is about even I think, also, AMD don't use the weird 12VHPWR PSU cable, which even now still has some issues, partly user error, but when it's hard to tell it's actually in correctly I can't quite blame the user

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the GRE has a max power draw of 260W according to some sources, and the 4070 super has a max of about 220W, it's not a huge difference

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 11:27 AM

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Oh right, idk why I thought that then lol

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Do you guys think it would be worth upgrading to a 240 hz monitor? I have a 165hz at the moment but apparently there isn't much difference so i'm not sure if I should

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 11:29 AM

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165 is plenty for 99% of people, only if you play super competitive games is it a possibly worthwhile upgrade

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 11:30 AM

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Yeah, that's what I thought as well, thanks

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 11:31 AM

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you'd also need to be able to hit that refresh with the FPS, so you either tank settings, or get a better GPU, and personally I value a prettier picture over insane FPS

elfin current Jul 3, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Yeah that's true, I'm sure i'll be fine with what I have now

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If I wanted to lower the costs a bit, would it be fine with a ryzen 5 7600 for the CPU ? Or stick with the ryzen 7

true imp Jul 3, 2024, 11:37 AM

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I'd recommend you stick with the 7800X3D, it's the best around and would save you more in the long run, however if you had to cut costs, the 7600/7600X would still be solid CPUs

#Please could you let me know if this PC is worth it