#Could some pc experts help with this

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hollow dust
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there are certainly some questionable choices there, can you tell us your budget?

vital escarp
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And is it just a white case you want?

civic sail
hollow dust
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what that in Danish whatver you use?

civic sail
civic sail
hollow dust
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you said USD, what is the budget in Danish currency?

civic sail
hollow dust
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cheers, and can you not ping on reply?

civic sail
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oh sorry.

hollow dust
civic sail
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why amd over intel?

hollow dust
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far better price/performance

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Intel has way too many cores for just gaming, and they tend to be very hot, so are harder to cool, gaming tends to only need 2/3 very fast cores on the CPU over the eleventy billion cores current gen Intel CPus have

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and AMD is currently on AM5 sockets, you can upgrade that for a long while still, the next Intel socket will require a whole new motherboard

civic sail
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I want at least 6 cores

hollow dust
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six cores is plenty, I am using a 7600X, it's got 6 cores and from the monitoring software I've only really been using 3, usually 2 though, the GPU does most of the heavy lifting#

civic sail
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would this build be able to handle the newer games on okay-ish high quality settings and handle alot fo stuff open at the same time?

hollow dust
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what is the "alot of stuff"? if you want to have OBS for streaming, another recording software, discord, 50 chrome tabs and for giggles a tab on Edge it might be too much, but it should be plenty comfortable on new AAA titles at 1440p, discord and a few chrome tabs

civic sail
hollow dust
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that should be fine

civic sail
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also

hollow dust
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to begin with yes, 1Tb doesn't go too terribly far these days, but upgrading storage is easy, and fairly cheap

civic sail
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the graphics card and motherboard is it good?

hollow dust
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the motherboard is solid, it's as good as it needs to be, there are better boards, but those are really either for looks, or the overclocking nutters who spend all day and night chasing a slightly better benchmark score

civic sail
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also sometimes i would leave the pc up overnight if im grinding a simulator or such, is that alright.

hollow dust
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the GPU is a very good card, scores slightly above my 4070 generally for games

missing-image.png
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the PC will do fine running overnight, you might want to have it running in another room, while it won't be loud, if you are a light sleeper, it might keep you up

civic sail
hollow dust
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I'd start with going for a 2TB 970 for the main games and whatnot storage, after that things get expensive fast

civic sail
hollow dust
civic sail
hollow dust
civic sail
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Also is the cooling slright and does all the components do good with eachother

hollow dust
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the components all work well with each over, the configurator would make a fuss otherwise. the cooling is fine. a liquid cooler would be better for noise, but the air cooler chosen there is just fine all the same

civic sail
hollow dust
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it's not silent, you'll still hear the fans running, also, depending on where the cooler goes it can get in the way of the GPU

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if it has to go on the front, it means less space for a the GPU

civic sail
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Alrighty.

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Thank you alot

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Would this pc be sble to run rust and a streaming software with discord snd chrome along with 2 screens attached. Also is there enough ports for everythin

hollow dust
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the GPU will have 4 Display outs, probably 3 DP ports and 1 HDMI, the motherboard has pretty good USB options, unless you need 50 USB ports you'll be fine

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the case also has a few USB ports at the front, but I personally don't use them much

light depot
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Can always get a USB hub if you need more anyway

civic sail
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Alr

hollow dust
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the USB C would be best for the hub if you need it, but you probably won't need it, 2 for keyboard and mouse, 1 for a headset, 1 for a console controller, and then depending on the simulators, you might need 2 more

civic sail
hollow dust
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it'll crush that and not even notice

civic sail
hollow dust
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the black friday deals are set, ready to ship PCs, you won't get any black friday deals on individual parts

civic sail
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I really need a new pc since my gurrent pc is from 2017

civic sail
hollow dust
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200% I would

civic sail
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How is it you know all this stuff about pc specs and that

hollow dust
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YT, reading articles and whats being said here

civic sail
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What pc do you currently have

hollow dust
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I've got a 7600X, 4070, 32GB @ 4800MHz RAM, 1TB boot drive and a 2TB stoarge drive

civic sail
hollow dust
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Roblox is fairly poorly optimized from what I can tell, but it should be fine in theory

civic sail
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With 8 total gb ram

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And around what was new in 2017

civic sail
hollow dust
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they will as long as it's under warranty

rain ibex
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Yeah, you're covered during transit and if anything goes wrong with individual components during the warranty cycle

hollow dust
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they'll first see if you can fix it at home, like reseating RAM or the GPU, but if that fails you can get the PC sent back

civic sail
light depot
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Yes it will be a huge upgrade

hollow dust
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3 day regular is fine

civic sail
hollow dust
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cash no, but you can pay via bank transfer, at least last time I checked

light depot
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PS. please dont ask the same question in multiple channels

waxen spruce
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let PCS Build it for you

waxen spruce
grim glacier
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You won't be able to use cash with PCS, closest you'd get is a bank transfer

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civic sail
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I have decided on getting this instead, is this good
AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D processor
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX graphics
32 GB DDR5 RAM, 2 TB SSD storage
and liquid cooling

light depot
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Woudl be worth putting in teh PCS link so everyone can see the whole spec

grim glacier
civic sail
grim glacier
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Proceed > post spec to forum > copy link > paste here

civic sail
light depot
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That link you posted just above was just the default for that configurator, not your spec

civic sail
light depot
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ie follow Juniors instructions to get a unique URL for your build

grim glacier
civic sail
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Is this the one?

light depot
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Scroll down on that page, the link youre looking for is deirectly below the spec list

grim glacier
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That was it

civic sail
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Cabinet
PCS PRISM TG BLACK ARGB MID TOWER CABINET
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B650-PLUS (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12

  1. M.2 SSD drive
    2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
    Power supply
    CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA-QUIET

Power cable
1 x 1.5 meter European power cable (C13, 1.0mm core)
Processor cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Water Cooler (AMD)
Thermal paste
STANDARD COOLING PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL(5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network card
2.5GbE LAN PORT
Options for USB/Thunderbolt
MINE. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating system
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single license [KUK-00003]
The language of the operating system
Denmark - Danish language
Windows recovery media
Windows 10/11 Recovery File in Multiple Languages ​​- Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office software
FREE 30-day trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating system required)
Antivirus
Norton 360 - Free 90-day license
Browser
Google Chrome™
Guarantee
3-year platinum warranty (3-year pickup & return, 3-year spare parts, 3-year labor)
Delivery
3 DAY DELIVERY TO DENMARK
Construction time
Standard Construction - Approximately 4 to 6 business days

Price: DKK 21,014.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to reconfigure: https://www.pcspecialist.dk/gemte-konfigurationer/amd-am5-pc/bDkdRyH4gw/

PCSPECIALIST - Konfigurer AMD Am5 PC, så den passer til dine krav.

PCSpecialist er en prisvindende producent af brugerdefinerede PCer og Bærbar PC af høj kvalitet. Konfigurer AMD Am5 PC, så den passer til dine krav.

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translated it to english for you guys.

civic sail
rain ibex
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Please remove Norton

civic sail
rain ibex
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Windows Defender is just as good if not better (as it's not bloatware)

civic sail
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well i already have an anticheat i pay yearly for so i dont really need it.

civic sail
light depot
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Windows Defender is perfectly good and isnt bloatware (and comes free with Windows)

civic sail
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what is ''bloatware'' and why is it bad again.

rain ibex
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In my humble opinion, no other AntiVirus is needed than Windows Defender for the Joe Bloggs user.
A business, different story

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Bloatware = Software that you really don't need and bogs your system down

civic sail
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i game alot.

rain ibex
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Me too. But my games come from official sources so I don't need to worry about viruses from them

civic sail
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so i should just not redownlaod my current antivirus i subscribed to and just stick with windows defender

civic sail
rain ibex
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You always should just user ONE SINGLE Antivirus
If you want to stick with your totalAV then make sure to disable Windows Defender

rain ibex
civic sail
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i pay yearly for totalav thought it was super good lol.

rain ibex
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Why pay for something that you can have for free via Windows and is also regularly updated?

civic sail
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idk maan

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it has web security too

rain ibex
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Save your cash...don't renew totalAV
And/or send me the money instead 😉
Or use the money to buy some games

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OR...the money you are now saving can go back into the PC thinksmart

civic sail
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alrighty.

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i'd rather go with windows defender if what your telling me is true

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why pay and have an anticheat taking up space on your pc when you have windows defender.

civic sail
rain ibex
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Feel free to wait for other opinions or just search this Discord for 'Windows Defender'

civic sail
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I'm upgrading from a really bad pc.

rain ibex
civic sail
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and possibly gta 6?

rain ibex
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Have the system req's been released for GTA6?

civic sail
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pretty sure i saw a list wait lemme chekc.

civic sail
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these are some recommended requiremetns just a prediction though.

light depot
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Your spec is way above that

rain ibex
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If those are predictions then I can't comment...and won't

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Don't rely on predictions when it coems to things like that...only go by official sources

civic sail
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also the only storage i have is 2TB in 1 ssd

rain ibex
civic sail
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what does OS mean?

rain ibex
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Operating System...aka Windows

light depot
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Operating System - ie Windows

civic sail
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ah

civic sail
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i noticed my local store

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has pcspecialist brand pcs in their shop

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is that like connected to here.

rain ibex
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God, I can't remember the name of that "chain" but there is one in the Nordics that sells PCS systems.
Like Curry's in the UK

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If I remember correctly, their theme is somewhat green coloured?!?!

civic sail
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Elgiganten

rain ibex
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That's the one

civic sail
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white and green

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There is a part called PCSpecialist Brand

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and there is some pcs displayed

light depot
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They are just selling some PCS machines they ordered from PCS, but they are ready-built set-builds so you cant customise them

rain ibex
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So yeah, it's legit.
But personally, I prefer the route to customise a system from scratch. Means it's tailored to your needs and your budget

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Not saying those PC's are bad...not at all. But I like to pick it all 😉

civic sail
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yea but theres black friday discounts on all the pcs from now.

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some pretty tasty discounts

rain ibex
civic sail
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oh also are you guys like community moderators or hired from the company?

civic sail
rain ibex
rain ibex
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But I can tell you already that I prefer the custom build

civic sail
rain ibex
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Like I said, they are legit...aka partnered with PCS just like Curry's in the UK

civic sail
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Don't know currys lol.

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well.

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If I bought from elgiganten the pcSpecialists prebuilt's there can i still get support here??

rain ibex
civic sail
rain ibex
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...at least I believe so

civic sail
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elgiganten sells warranty on their own pretty sure.

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i'm prolly gonna get a pc from the elgiganten prebuilds

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too scared to mess something up

rain ibex
civic sail
rain ibex
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Yepp, she's a beast

civic sail
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was a nice black friday discoutn on it so i couldn't resist along with I like there being a store you can go to.

rain ibex
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Would still recommend to buy a 500GB M.2 and throw Windows on that instead of on the 2GB drive

civic sail
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is there any bonus that comes with that?

rain ibex
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yes...if something ever goes iffy and you need to re-install Windows, you only have to wipe the OS drive and all your games, data etc on the 2TB drive can remain intact

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Honestly...that is THE best route to go for

civic sail
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I really never opened a pc up in my life.

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How would i go on getting a second m2 ssd in there

rain ibex
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And, if you are willing to do this, I'd rather do it sooner than later...aka be ready to install it when the PC arrives so you don't have to mess around with moving files and wasting time too much

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M.2s' are "plug and play" really

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Literally the easiest drive to install

civic sail
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also

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whe I get the pc

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how do i open it?

rain ibex
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With those thumb screws

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And then you can remove the side panel

civic sail
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just screw them off?

rain ibex
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Yepp

civic sail
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So I have to buy this m.2 individual

rain ibex
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If you've never fiddled with a PC it can all seem a little daunting. But honestly, it's all pretty straight forward

civic sail
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Where do I go on buying it.

civic sail
rain ibex
civic sail
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When I go get the PC i'll buy one and ask for help where to get it hopefully they can put it in lol.

rain ibex
civic sail
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theres alot of ssd's i can see

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what should the read and write be on it.

civic sail
rain ibex
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Those numbers for prices are just mindboggeling me 🤣
My brain thinks "DAMN!!! That's expensive"...but then it's all in Danish Krone 🤣

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And re speeds, the faster the read speed the faster (in theory) your system boots up

hollow dust
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the game/general storage drive however does not need to be so fast, one of the gen 3 m.2 drives is plenty

rain ibex
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But, stay away from Kioxia...never heard of them

hollow dust
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WD/Kingston/Samsung are known good brands

rain ibex
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PNY is known but the above are more reputable
(but again...no idea if the filters stuck with the link I shared...so we might be looking at different results here)

hollow dust
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Kioxia looks very... cheap as in, dies on you on the day the warranty runs out cheap

rain ibex
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Might be Elitegiganten's own brand

hollow dust
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huh Kioxia is a japanese brand

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and used to be part of Toshiba it seems, but I wouldn't trust them with SSD's all the same as I haven't heard much good from them

light depot
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DrLeft just to fill you in, he's bought a pre-build PCS machine from one of his local stores which had a decent BlackFriday discount - but it only has one 2TB SSD in it

hollow dust
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It is better to let windows have it's own m.2 drive to be fat on, as the more full the drive windows is installed on the slower the whole system becomes

grim glacier
civic sail
civic sail
grim glacier
civic sail
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its prebuilt so there isnt much i could do.

rain ibex
light depot
grim glacier
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OH, that was based on the custom spec you sent a while back. I haven’t seen the new pre-spec spec

rain ibex
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#1173360930684416071 message

grim glacier
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Wait I’m so confused

civic sail
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this is what i just bought

grim glacier
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Case is much bettter on that one (:

civic sail
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does someone have. a video tutorial on how to install a m.2 ssd lol

hollow dust
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I do have one somewhere

civic sail
light depot
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By miles

civic sail
# light depot By miles

My current pc can't even boot up that fast and even load into these requirements 😂
it has 8 gb ram. amd ryzen 5 1400 quad-core processor an a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 lol. how much of an upgrade is this from that

light depot
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A lot, if you want exact differences you'll ahve to google those cpus and gpus and the games you want to know about, but yeah, a lot

civic sail
civic sail
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how high of a hertz screen do i get for it?

grim glacier
civic sail
grim glacier
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Read the description/ title. It’ll be 3840 x 2160

civic sail
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where do i check my current screen?

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screen's hertz and quality

grim glacier
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That’s 1080p (:

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But yes

civic sail
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alrighty.

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which hertz and quality should i go for on my new pc

grim glacier
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Are you wanting to buy a new monitor?

civic sail
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might

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im on 60 hertz monitors with 1080p i think i should buy new screens.

grim glacier
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You should. Having a pc that powerful is pointless with screens like that😂

civic sail
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is 165hz the max?

grim glacier
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Maximum I’d recommend. But I’d look at 4K. If not 1440p

civic sail
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what does HDR mean

grim glacier
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It’s about colours

civic sail
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oh.

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is it anything u need on a screen

grim glacier
grim glacier
civic sail
grim glacier
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Yep

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Buy an expensive PC, need an expensive monitor. People don’t realise this 😬

civic sail
grim glacier
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Talking about the perceived difference? 1080 to 1440 is huge. 1440 to 4K isn’t as big. You’ll notice the hz jump the most tho

civic sail
grim glacier
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Yes

civic sail
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do i have to cahnge both of my screens or can i go with replacing one

grim glacier
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Just replace one. Or add one if you’ve got the space

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Can use your old monitor as a secondary

civic sail
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my 2nd monitor is outdated and needs to be replaced but i have a 75hz monitor i can keep for a bit more and i could amybe replace the other monitor for a 1440p

grim glacier
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Yep. Sounds good

civic sail
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does adding a m.2 ssd require a higher power supply or cooler?

grim glacier
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Nope. M.2’s hardly draw any power

civic sail
civic sail
grim glacier
civic sail
grim glacier
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You don't need a 2nd one. Nice to have a 2nd one but not vital

civic sail
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Hm.

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i have 2 M.2 slots left

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and the 2tb drive is the only one i have

light depot
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It is better to have two drives (or more), one for Windows and one (or more) for other stuff if you can - though yes not technically necessary, but definitely better

civic sail
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Storage type SSD
Storage unit (brand) Solidigm
Storage device (model) P41+
SSD interface M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
SSD form factor 2280
Storage capacity SSD (GB) 2000
Max. sequential read speed (MB/s) 4125
Max. sequential write speed (MB/s) 3325
Number of SSDs installed 1
Total SSD's capacity (GB) 2000
Total storage capacity (GB)
2000

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Is this an alright SSD for games?

civic sail
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I'll probably get a 512 or a 1tb for windows tmrw

grim glacier
civic sail
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and then i'll get a bigger ssd in th efuture

grim glacier
civic sail
light depot
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Yep

civic sail
# light depot Yep

Also when i boot it up wont windows automatically be on the first ssd?

light depot
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The PC youre getting will have Windows on the 2TB drive (as thats the one it comes with), you will need to install it on the new drive once you've installed the new drive into the machine

grim glacier
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that's why you re-install it 😉

civic sail
light depot
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Thera re anumber of links we can give you when you get to that point 🙂

civic sail
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alr

light depot
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I'd make sure you have a USB stick handy though (at least 8GB in size) - if you dont have one, get one when you get the SSD

civic sail
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this is too hard man

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I might just buy another 2tb drive 😭

grim glacier
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then leeave it

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2TB is tonnes

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you'll be fine for a while

civic sail
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i hope ig

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with my old pc

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i had for like 4-5 years

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i never experienced windows issues

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I'll probably be set for like 1 year or so before I gotta get another m.2

civic sail
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Does it scale of the hertz in your monitor or your gaming pc?

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I was told you set your max fps to 1 above ur hertz

rain ibex
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Rule of thumb...
1080p - 24" monitor
1440p - 27" monitor
4k - 32" monitor
Reason is pixel density. If you were to go with a bigger sized monitor for the mentioned res than the rule of thumb then you have a poor pixel density experience. Basically making you see/notice the pixels
If you go below, then you just wasted money and are also wasting FPS. In short, if you are thinking of 4k but are going for a 27" monitor, you really don't notice the benefits from 4k and should have saved your cash via going for 1440p

rain ibex
# civic sail I have had this question for awhile, FPS in games what does that scale off?

And this doesn't make much sense...
You FPS depends on your GPU and the game + settings your playing on.
That means, your FPS will vary from game to game. Also will vary within the same game depending on what's happening on screen.
The Hz on the monitor is basically the max FPS that particular monitor can physically display. So If you are running a game and 200FPS on a 60Hz monitor, you are actually just seeing the 60FPS

Locking FPS in games to the Hz of your monitor is recommended because of the above. Why waste and invest resources to squeeze 200FPS out if your monitor can only show you 144 for example

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But no, there's no scaling

civic sail
rain ibex
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To that question you will get varying answers depending on opinion.
To me personally, not necessarily a waste. Just mean that you can crank up those settings in games. And you can do that "marginally" longer as games get more demanding when compared to a lower GPU

civic sail
rain ibex
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Dealers choice
It's all down to preference.
Me personally I wouldn't go higher than 165Hz

civic sail
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Why not?

rain ibex
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Because the human eye can't see anything that fast
But you will find people who argue and insist they can

civic sail
rain ibex
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How much smoother than your eye can possibly see do you want it to get?

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Like I said, that is my opinion.
Do what you will with that info...your choice

civic sail
rain ibex
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One that you can fit on your desk, suits your requirements and suits your budget

civic sail
civic sail
civic sail
rain ibex
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DUDE...stop with the pings

civic sail
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What I'm not pinging you?

rain ibex
civic sail
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Thats reply

rain ibex
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It still results in a ping

civic sail
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sowwy

vital escarp
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It's only a 60Hz refresh rate.

civic sail
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but wouldnt going higher be pointless if ur eye cant see beyond 60 hz?

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Would it make no sense buying a 4k screen with 240 hertz 32''?

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alr this is the real last question, if i were to get a 4k screen with 144 hertz would i get good performance vs having 1440p perfomrance with 144 hertz or higher or so would i be getting better performacne since my graphic card isnt getting sweated by the 4k?

light depot
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I would expect better preformance from any GPU doing 1440p rather than 4k at the same refresh rate

civic sail
hollow dust
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I'd recommend against getting 2 1440p screens with a high refresh rate, unless you need them both for simulators or some such.

I, and many others, run a 1440p for gaming, and a 1080p60 for the secondary, no point in throwing a much of money at somthing you don't need to

civic sail
civic sail
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Can anyone give a reply ^~^

hollow dust
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the screen will do nicely.

Generally, not always though, an AMD card will work with G-sync, but an Nvidia card will not play nice with AMD Free-sync.

when they don't work it doesn't do any damage or have any bad effects, it just won't give you the vertical synchronization from the screens own hardware, so the GPU will have to do that work instead

civic sail