Trying to find best specs for £1600 | PCSpecialist | Page 1

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™️ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X570S AORUS ELITE AX : ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
128GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1100 MB/R, 600 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™️ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
2x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365®️ (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft®️ Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Christmas Delivery No Longer Guaranteed
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Would you be able to provide us with your budget uses and monitor?

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:00 PM

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I already have a monitor keyboard and mouse

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My budget shouldn’t go over 1,300 in the worst case

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 4:01 PM

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flint mortar I already have a monitor keyboard and mouse

What’s the monitor?

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And what are you using it for?

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Just a Samsung smart TV can support 4k but nothing too fancy

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Casual gaming

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I heard the motherboard I selected had intergrated Wi-Fi

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Did some research and gigabyte says it does

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That’s why I didn’t select a Wi-Fi card

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I plan to change the 1x pcs 32gb ram to 2x 16 Corsair ram with a 334 megahertz increase, change the power supply to a gold standard psu with 650 watts and potentially upgrade the graphics card to a 16 gb rtx 2060 instead of 6gb

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 4:11 PM

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What exactly are you playing? Anything modded or especially intensive?

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And do you mean the 12GB 3060 instead of the 2060? There’s no 16GB RTX card

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:13 PM

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No not the 3060, the most demanding game I play might be the new call of duty game that just came out

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I think it was an 8 gb 2060

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 4:14 PM

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If 1300 is worst case, what are you ideally looking to spend?

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:17 PM

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I do not mind paying 1300

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But that is my budget limit

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What is the availability of the RTX 3050?

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Or is it worth going for the 3060?

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 4:25 PM

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This is what I’d recommend https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/xCzHuBYk4P/

-You haven’t included the case which is actually quite a vital part of the spec. I’ve gone for the Spectrum G which is a good budget choice with good airflow and some RGB
-5600 is a FAR better CPU than the 5600G and my current recommendation for a gaming system at this price tier
-Yes your motherboard is nice but it’s incredibly expensive for the budget so that money would be better spent elsewhere. The one I’ve selected also has wifi
-Faster RAM, vital for an AMD CPU
-3060TI is probably 3 performance tiers above the 2060 and a great GPU

Stuck with a single 1TB SSD for now. If you want a boot drive I’d recommend a 500Gb drive
-FAR better power supply that should let you upgrade into the future
-FF100 will more than amply cool the 5600 and looks better imo

Dumped the anti virus and updated to the silver warranty, all comes to £1,250

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flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:36 PM

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I made a few adjustments, nothing major added a 1tb Samsung drive and a 560 corsair both ssd a graphics card bracket because speed bumps during delivery, better thermal paste since it was 5 quid more expensive and seems like a worthy investment

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Also removed the ssd that you had originally chose because I need the space lol

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As for the motherboard compared to the one I had originally chosen how much performance loss would I have to deal with in between the two?

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@wise heron sorry for the tag

wise heron Dec 31, 2022, 4:42 PM

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Did it go into pre-production?

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 4:46 PM

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Checked all orders and on brackets it says processing

flint mortar Dec 31, 2022, 5:52 PM

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Anyway @wise heron I will save the picture and remember my few tweaks thank you very much and have a wonderful New Year’s party

burnt vapor Dec 31, 2022, 5:55 PM

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If you click on the link it will take you to that exact configuration

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 1:43 PM

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I have one more question

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The motherboard I originally chose, does it have integrated Wi-Fi? In the selection it doesn’t say it has Wi-Fi I choose a card it says it’s too slow and the board has Wi-Fi and so does the gigabyte website

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Tbh the idea of my recommendations is you swap your build to that spec. You’ll get FAR more performance with my spec (it’s probably a 50-60% performance increase from the 2060 to3060TI plus the gains from the RAM) and not to mention my build is far more suited to future upgrades. It’s up to you at the end of the day and it’s your money but I’d emplore you to make the changes I’ve recommended

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 5:24 PM

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Wouldn’t the more expensive motherboard increase performance more than the one you chose?

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That’s the only change I want to make other than the better thermal paste and graphics card support bracket in case the delivery driver runs over a speed bump the GC won’t rip out of its socket

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 5:33 PM

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flint mortar Wouldn’t the more expensive motherboard increase performance more than the one y...

No. Unless you go for such a bad motherboard the VRM's can't cope with the CPU in there (which the B550 AORUS won't) a motherboard doesn't affect performance at all.

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 5:34 PM

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flint mortar That’s the only change I want to make other than the better thermal paste and gr...

The stock thermal paste is perfectly fine and the bracket has nothing to do with delivery, it's to stop large GPU sagging over time, which a mid tier card won't

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 5:35 PM

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And as for breathing room for upgrades? Will this motherboard remain upgradable for a few years at least?

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 5:36 PM

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The board I've chosen will happily support a 5800X3D which is really the only upgrade path I'd consider for a gaming PC on AM4

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 5:38 PM

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And if I were to go for the mother I originally chose does that motherboard have integrated Wi-Fi? I’m willing to pay a bit more for a newer motherboard as long as it has Wi-Fi

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I’m thinking longer term with upgrades so a better motherboard will go a long way

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Both the one you picked and the one I picked have integrated WiFi. The X570 board is actually older, it released before the B550 chipset, just the X-70 range is considered higher end.

The one I've picked will handle the 5800X3D which is all you need to worry about. The AM4 platform is end of life, so we won't see any new CPU's on that platform. the 5800X3D is the best CPU that you'll be able to put in there

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:03 PM

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So amd isn’t the cpu to go for?

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Would it be better to go for nividia?

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:05 PM

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When did I say that? The 5600 is still by far the best bang for buck CPU in your pricepoint

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Could I change the setup to nividia when I amend the order?

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You didn’t just looking for longevity

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Nvidia is the graphics card not the CPU

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Oh right sorry

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:07 PM

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Yeah, AMD CPU, NVIDIA GPU

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:09 PM

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So if the am4 is end of life then when the latest cpu does not cut it in 5 years or so I will have to change the motherboard?

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There should be a motherboard out there for am4 when the time comes?

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Am5 I mean

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Did some research am5 isn’t out yet so it won’t need an upgrade for a while so it looks good

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Should I stick with amd ryzen cpus for the long term they seem more powerful for the money as you said

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:14 PM

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flint mortar So if the am4 is end of life then when the latest cpu does not cut it in 5 years...

But in 5 years time, you'll have a 5600 and you can upgrade to a 5800X3D for a massive performance boost

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:14 PM

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flint mortar Did some research am5 isn’t out yet so it won’t need an upgrade for a while so i...

What is your source? AM5 has been available for months

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 6:15 PM

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flint mortar Should I stick with amd ryzen cpus for the long term they seem more powerful for...

What Junior suggested is a perfectly good build for your budget, obviously different budgets would lead to different choices, but given you have a set budget that suggestion will be your best bet

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:15 PM

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flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Godamn I’ve been an idiot the source was dated February not November

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:16 PM

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And before you ask, no you shouldn't go AM5, the platform prices are too high and DDR5 RAM would eat far too much into your budget

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Yea that’s my budget a 4000 pound pc on the highest end is very good

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As long as the megahertz of the Corsair ram remain over 3000 it should be more than enough

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:17 PM

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3200 for AMD

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:18 PM

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wise heron This is what I’d recommend https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/a...

TLDR you should buy this build

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:20 PM

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Well I will wait for the order to be available to amend and I will change it to your specs, also going to need more storage so I’ll add a 1tb ssd to it because games are taking massive amounts of storage space

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I think the extra 40 pounds will be worth it

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Do remember that storage can always easily be added later if you need to wait for adding that

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Of course

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But I might as well have pcspecialist put it in while it’s built

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:22 PM

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flint mortar I think the extra 40 pounds will be worth it

£73 for the 1TB SSD, no?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:22 PM

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Depends on the brand Samsung yes

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Corsair ones should be around 60 quid I think

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:23 PM

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for 1TB? Are you sure?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:24 PM

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It does not matter if it is 73 pounds if the storage space is necessary and not optional I have no choice

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:25 PM

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There's already 1TB in there, why don't you start with that and add more later

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Need a second one for the OS and core files just makes it tidy a small ssd

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I think Corsair has a 250 or is it the pcspecialist one?

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It’s only an extra 30 quid in that case

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:28 PM

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do you want a seperate boot drive?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Didn’t copy properly

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Sure it keeps things tidy

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:33 PM

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What?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:33 PM

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The specs

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Tried to show you it

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Everything is the same for core components

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You know more about those than me

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Press proceed then screenshot the following screen?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:34 PM

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I can tell you what I changed

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:34 PM

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LIke this

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:35 PM

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I just added a 250gb drive changed the paste added the bracket chose a more powerful cooler added extra case fans and argb double strip

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I think this is a great end product

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:36 PM

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Press proceed, then press post to forum, then copy the green link and share it here

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Ok

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Sorry I’m taking so long I clicked off by mistake

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So 2tb ssd storage for several games on steam and for the OS a 250gb ssd an improved cooler extra case fans and better thermal paste

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:49 PM

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you're spending monumental amounts on storage but it's your money, do what you wanna do

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:50 PM

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I know the 2 tb ssd is necessary due to having a lot of games on steam

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Also is cooler master the better option over the frost flow 200 series?

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I tend to trust a familiar cooler brand

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:54 PM

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flint mortar I know the 2 tb ssd is necessary due to having a lot of games on steam

but you don't need one that's £180, go for one of the PCS drives, more than fast enough and way more suited to your budget price wise

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:54 PM

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flint mortar Also is cooler master the better option over the frost flow 200 series?

the 100 beats the cooler master in testing, it's just slightly louder

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You also don't need the 2 extra fans, there's already 4 in that case, that's more than enough

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How have you made a £1250 spec £1600

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:56 PM

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Increasing the budget lol

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Then it throws the intial parts we pick out of whack

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a 5600 and 3060TI is now terrible value for £1600

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Wait wait ok I agree the extra fans are not needed

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The more powerful cooler is for keeping the cpu cool under heavy load

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The 2 tb storage is for the ton of games I have

wise heron Jan 1, 2023, 6:59 PM

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I give up lmao

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spend your money how you want to

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 6:59 PM

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I’m just new at this pc

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Pc building

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Relatively new

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Which is why advice has been given - that you seem to be ignoring some of

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 7:01 PM

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I need to find the right balance now of graphics card and cooler

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Speaking of I heard the 3060 was originally a nightmare to get but I do not know if that is still the case?

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 7:02 PM

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All 30 series cards were a nightmare to get hold of originally, most shoudl not now have issues

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 7:03 PM

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Ok I will work on the specs and get back in 10 mins

burnt vapor Jan 1, 2023, 7:03 PM

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But yes if it is now a 1600 budget, there would probably be much different changes than the ones that were suggested to keep it close to 1300

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So what is your actual budget?

flint mortar Jan 1, 2023, 7:04 PM

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1600 max

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I was being stingy with a 1300 budget

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How is this?

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The 3070 TI was out of my price range so I went for the regular 3070

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Wait I can improve apon it

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How about this?

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I think I did a good job with it

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The only thing is will the pcspecialist ssd slow down the system?

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The OS will be installed on it

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Is it good? I need your opinion, I did my best

#Trying to find best specs for £1600