💬・general

[worldly frigate]

“Merging worlds” sad that I aint part of this world then

[west mesa]

I've told you the price isn't changing

[void zealot]

it just moves the goalposts and continues the shell game. maybe people forget about this BS and eventually the MX starts trading for multiple ETH on secondary again. Then, guess what, the team hypes it as the great "low entry into the RTFKT ecosystem" and generates millions more in royalties until it reveals in 2023 to be another low rent coupon. And a whole new round of new members to the community get rekt

[novel vault]

@west mesa there was no mention of space pods in the AMA.. What is the timeline for a use case for the pods?

[fallen plover]

I think RTFKT needs to address what they tweeted though. https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896

[junior bobcat]

Waiting for the dunks forging. It’s gonna be even more fun 😂

[merry inlet]

scammers you guys are desipicable thinking this is ok at all...

[fallen plover]

How is MNLTH 2 an "invention drop"

[west mesa]

TBA, don't want to rush it just to do it by EOY

[chilly valve]

^^ fr

[molten isle]

Picking up what you’re putting down now

[worldly frigate]

Did not know that the world has only 330m people? REKTFT should make a movie since there everything happens in US i

[west mesa]

I gotta take off for a bit but I'll be back in a couple hours to answer more questions. Feel free to keep asking on my twitter

[errant ice]

Where’s the rest of the team

[tiny fox]

lol

[novel vault]

So your saying beginning of next year? I had thought they were next on your toad map back in May and all this other stuff has jumped the spacepods

[tiny fox]

like a rug on mint day

[void zealot]

thanks for taking the heat for a bit

[west mesa]

I'm not sure the exact timeline right now for it. I haven't been working that project

[west mesa]

it's my job...I know my answers are not what a lot of you want to hear right now, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hide from it. You deserve the truth

[worldly frigate]

You answering and not answering at the same time

[novel vault]

Can you pit me in touch who is working on that project?

Put

[west mesa]

I"m answering what I know. That's the best I can do

[west mesa]

I'd ask Ben on twitter

[novel vault]

Ok thanks

[prisma ledge]

Wish the others would be here too, but we appreciate you.

[west mesa]

I appreciate the candid feedback. I know it doesn't seem like it right now but I want to hear where we are falling short more than where we are succeeding

can't improve if everything is sunshine and rainbows

again, taking off but I'll be back in roughly 2 hrs. feel free to hit me up on twitter though

[novel vault]

The main problem is a small team and to many different projects ts going on at once with lack of sticking with timelines while charging a big royalty

[merry inlet]

you guys are falling short by not even considering giving us a better discount after destroying the value of our assets

[novel vault]

With the amount of fees generated and Nike backing the team shouldn't be small.. Especially on communication to community

[hybrid summit]

1. Future lace utility 2. Significantly larger discount for lace holders 3. Stop profiteering from there royalties through deception

[uneven zealot]

Not even for an egg?

[worldly frigate]

Dont forget guys, sell on looks to avoid giving royalties

[graceful valley]

anyone here buying a BOT? what the usage ?.people keep undercut lower to lower...

[uneven zealot]

This is a prime example of why NFTs are dumb AF, and looking at them as an investment is moronic. The team doesn’t owe you anything, you all are consumers and they taking your money

[merry inlet]

@west mesa please respond to that when you are back you guys are not looking good at all and what we are supposed to do just wait and hope you guys are gna deliver something good w mnlth X (for all we know it will probably be another coupon), why not give a temporary fix by giving us your holders people who believe in the vision of RTFKT something that we can be stoked on. other than oh sorry no we cant do that

[uneven zealot]

They don’t owe y’all 💩 they got your money, and they are happy lol don’t get your hopes up. Sorry for your losses

[worldly frigate]

Web2 = get scammed, get refund.
Web3 = get scammed, cry in a corner

[mint shell]

The shoes have tech no shoes have

You guys better be happy with no discount

[uneven zealot]

First time in NFTs? Lol

[merry inlet]

the adapts have the same tech

[worldly frigate]

We made them? If we did not buy or support them, they were no where? L0lz

[mint shell]

Not haptic feedback and the disco lights!

[uneven zealot]

And now they reap the rewards

[merry inlet]

lmao

[worldly frigate]

Gj on knowing that

[mint shell]

Is there any difference between the colors

I know price

[uneven zealot]

They really rugged y’all hard withholding all that crucial information

[keen burrow]

get out of here with that. look at the nike adapt. the interesting thing about these is the m2e aspect, but are we promised that if these don't sell well? will they invest more into it if it fails? there is no demand for this shoe.

[worldly frigate]

Yeah, just another one 🙂

[high meadow]

Yeah I think at this point if you’re truly disatisfied sell and cut your losses. Same as stock market or any other commodity. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. Deal with it and move on. They replaced the monolith. So now you have that and a lace engine. Use it or don’t

[fallen plover]

@west mesa I don't know how RTFKT can officially claim "MNLTH 2 contains another Invention drop" and then make it a $130 coupon off a $500 shoe. It seems to purposely conflate the two to boost after-market hype which they profit from. IANAL but for a Nike-owned company this might be fraud.

Tweet here: https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896

[mint shell]

Bro check royalties on secondary this show will sell out

[graceful valley]

guess no one here even brother the dumb noob Bot.....

[tulip sky]

Everyone took an L on this one for sure

[void zealot]

floor price for the LE mint pass says otherwise

[silk elbow]

Anyone know why there is such a large price difference between the different colorways?

[keen burrow]

lol what are you talking about? the volume came from when this was mnlth2. when it was unrevealed. it tanked hard when people found out what it was.

[tulip sky]

To try make them scarce

[high meadow]

Yes but look at your clones and other things that people took huge wins on… nobody was griping then

[tulip sky]

If the box contained the full shoe no one would be complaining

[void zealot]

exactly...and the secondary volume clearly indicated that was the expectation

[high meadow]

Took an L on one product launch… get over it and either stay in or get out. Team owes users nothing. The only real shady thing they did is the not ship out of the USA that was major. Everything else is part of the risk of this game

[worldly frigate]

Siiiiiiiiiii

[tulip sky]

They said the shoe cost them millions to develop, but they have 1300eth in royalties just form the mnlth 2. They could have given the free shoes to holders

[keen burrow]

you think people are excited that they spent $5000+ on this to find out they are paying for a $500 shoe with a $150 discount? 🤣 and you think anyone outside of this space is wanting this shoe? the shoe has the word crypto in it. that alone has pushed away people from even coming near this thing.

[void zealot]

two million in royalties off M2 alone

[mint shell]

U talking out the clone?

[fallen plover]

And that means they can publicly mislead people? I actually think their public facing tweets from a Nike-owned company's official account claiming the MNLTH 2 was an "invention drop" and then turning out to be a coupon might hit legal threshholds for false advertisement.

[high meadow]

For sure nobody is excited… but again it’s part of the risk. Don’t spend your life savings on NFT that’s for sure

[rustic moon]

Sell and join RENGA

[solid vector]

Tf is renga

[molten isle]

Is there an m2e aspect? They said something about it in the meeting earlier

[uneven zealot]

Legit no one outside of this space is gonna buy this shoe lol

[tulip sky]

Also remember guys that monolith box has provided zero in free value so far. The first shoes aren't even forgeable and the second cost $500

[mint shell]

How much do y’all think it costs to make shoes

[rustic moon]

Do your homework

[mint shell]

A lot

[high meadow]

Was lace engine not considered an invention? What would you have preferred be in it?

[void zealot]

the team hyped up this coupon for eight months and made 2 million dollars in royalties...they can take some wrath from us...they got plenty of our money to wipe their tears

[tulip sky]

Much less than the amount they are earning

[mint shell]

But the future ser

[fallen plover]

The real lace engine or the NFT coupon?

[high meadow]

Lol for sure they deserve all the smoke but at same time don’t let it wreck your lives!

[solid vector]

No. Lace engine has been out since like 2018

[tulip sky]

Ok where do I get my free lace engine then? I can't because I have to buy something else

[keen burrow]

people will degen in this space i get that. their risk is paying the amount they did for mnlth2. HOWEVER, if people are paying $5000+ on speculation, dont you think it's only right to let secondary buyers know that hey maybe they shouldn't because guess what's inside? lol. you know what you could do with that money instead? probably buy these shoes and save some of that money.

[rustic moon]

Mono 2 is pointless

[high meadow]

Like them sending the actual lace engine to your house?

[rustic moon]

Sell everything

[void zealot]

or adjust the value exchange because you collected 2 million in royalties because of the secondary trading

[fallen plover]

I would have preferred the contents of the box be redeemable for whatever the thing was. Don't conflate the lace engine with the coupon in the box.

[mint shell]

Clones have more coming g sell me yours

[prisma ledge]

Pixelmon x RTFKT

[hybrid summit]

They are using the 2 million for damage control and beach houses

[solid vector]

Don’t fud my pixelmon bag MFer

[keen burrow]

i'm not talking about clones dude. i'm talking about their willingness to ignore their unethical ways

[high meadow]

A form of it yes. Smaller and different now making the shoe much lighter than the current bricks

[tulip sky]

Just inventory app which is free and swoosh Id maybe

[hybrid summit]

Don’t excuse unethical behaviour

[solid vector]

It’s not new tech tho. Maybe modified. Can’t say it’s a new invention

[high meadow]

Yeah I can see the frustration there. But again kind of a gamble too right to buy a blind box that has “something cool” in it?

[tulip sky]

Ok to say but remember ppl lost money

[high meadow]

For sure but people have lost money on most NFT projects out there. This one they lost money on one of all the drops that Rtfkt has ever launched.

[tulip sky]

All rtfkt floors dropped

[fallen plover]

I actually disagree. When a company owned by Nike is publicly tweeting that the box contains an "invention drop," profits 10% on secondary market surge from that, and then it turns out to be a coupon on the actual invention item, which is not actually part of the box, it's fraudulent. I'd expect this from some no-name rug company, but this is Nike ownership now.

[tulip sky]

It harmed the whole community

[high meadow]

Yeah… how about the stock market. People’s 401ks hit the damn floor all the time. It’s a risk like any other investment

[junior bobcat]

Selling my disount coupons for a discount. And paying 10% to creators too. This has been a good week 🤟🏽

[fallen plover]

And to be clear, I didn't buy one after-market or lose money on this. But it's an ethical issue imo and me having RTFKT bags doesn't mean I need to compromise my morals.

[prisma ledge]

Man, this is so silly. You are simplifying and making straw man arguments.

[high meadow]

Yeah I don’t disagree

[tulip sky]

I'll send my lace engine to burn address rather than give them another 0.01eth from selling

[void zealot]

sell on Looks for no royalties

[tulip sky]

I think the main problem is. Ppl outside of the US are 50% of holdersm and now nft is worthless for them

[molten isle]

You still here complaining lol

[keen burrow]

do the shoes even have nike on them at all? there was a nike logo on the mnlth 2 box lol

[void zealot]

LOL the LE trading for .09...good lord, people dont even want the WL pass and the .1 discount

[prisma ledge]

Nope.

[tulip sky]

Not sure how many of you know this. But Rtfkt founders got a deal when they signed with Nike that they get a percentage of royalties from the nfts. So it benefits them to drop eggs and mnlth 6 months early and hype it up

[whole harness]

Though if you think about it, most sneaker tech "innovations" that get pumped out every season is more marketing than real technological innovation

[tulip sky]

If they revealed about the US only earlier they would have got less money

[fallen plover]

Sure, but this doesn't even have that defense because the box didn't contain a redemption ticket for a sneaker. It contained a coupon. That's it. Just a coupon.

[void zealot]

or if it was revealed that it was just a discount and not a free forge. No way these would have been trading for multiple ETH on secondary if that knowledge was out.

[errant ice]

I’m more than a coupon!

[whole harness]

they're used to gullible consumers lapping up whatever marketing they push out; just applying the same marketing spiel here

[keen burrow]

rtfkt invented the coupon what do you mean? 😆

[molten isle]

It's a guaranteed mint for a futuristic sneaker with strong tech inside

[fallen plover]

lol no, it's a coupon.

[tulip sky]

Nike already has shoes like it and they sell for less than RRP on stock x

[errant ice]

Keep calling me a coupon see what happens

[worldly frigate]

RTFKT gonna but all their iRL sneakers with our royalties money from M2+MX to fake a sell out

[fallen plover]

you're a big ol coupon

[random siren]

What's up guys! Been watching rtfkt for a while and faded clone vials at 2.5. Always wanted a chance to enter the eco. Seems like Animus is my shot. I have been reading the faq. I have one question. What's up with protecting the egg? Can anyone clue me in? I know everyone is pissed right now about the situation at hand but would love some insight. Thanks 💪

[void zealot]

a guaranteed mint that no one wants. people arent even willing to pay .1 for the .1 discount

[errant ice]

That’s it Dan

[whole harness]

yea even gullible consumers have limits haha

[molten isle]

Really not the same did you even read the description

[fallen plover]

watcha gonna do coupon?

[tulip sky]

Basically hold the egg for months until they finish the project

[worldly frigate]

Mnlth was a chance to enter eco and look what happened

[keen burrow]

only thing i can think of is RTFKT intentionally didn't say anything so they can reap in royalties all the way up to the reveal. they aren't going to address it so that to me is basically what they are saying.

[molten isle]

They can't untie it now. Lol..

[tiny fox]

im excited for my shoes

[random siren]

Ok lol 😆

[molten isle]

Because it's a Bear market and the shoe will be delivered in 5 months

[tulip sky]

Similar at least

[fallen plover]

big web 2 energy

[tiny fox]

late christmas present for me $600 shoes

[merry inlet]

https://twitter.com/man_of_eth/status/1601015662800797696?s=46&t=hz0e2zdkhwUgPFNaFFh_rw feel free to vote in the poll, not only am I a man of eth, I am a man of the people

[void zealot]

and yet LE holders are forced to shell out .3 more of their ETH or take the L

[tiny fox]

gl to anyone buying the $1300 shoes

[merry inlet]

Thought that sounded cool

[keen burrow]

it could be a dinosaur market, who cares? it doesn't change how they rolled this out.

[molten isle]

They said they'll do something for people who doesn't want to mint

[spice sluice]

Any idea or input on whether the cryptodunks when forged will only be available in the US?

[void zealot]

i have not heard anything like that. the word is that LEs have basically no utility after the forge. I'm all ears if there's an alternative.

[fallen plover]

Tbh I think if the box contained a physical redemption ticket for a totally normal shoe, people would think it was lame but not fraudulent. The problem is the way they conflated the two, advertised it publicly as something it wasnt, and profited from that

[molten isle]

They talked about that on Twitter

[fallen plover]

they literally said in the space today that there probably wouldnt be.

[prisma ledge]

Imagine if the MNLTH 2 had opened with one of the 4 pairs and you minted cost free. That also determined rarity of the colours and the market decides price. What a novel idea.

[molten isle]

Would be bad if not

[fallen plover]

I mean, that was why the price tanked further today. It legit went from like .2 to .09 within minutes of them saying that in today's space.

[void zealot]

yep...no one wants a dead end NFT

[prisma ledge]

you were blindly shilling? Cool. lolool

[molten isle]

Thanks I wasn't there

[fallen plover]

yeah. it didnt help.

prices crashed even more after

[uneven zealot]

Legit heading to 0

[keen burrow]

basically they didn't address any real concerns. they juts said sorry it was a mistake. but hey look at all this cool stuff we might be doing in the future that we can't say yet...

[void zealot]

whats crazy is after they announced the Spaces yesterday...the fp crept up from .15 to .19. the market was BEGGING the team to give the LEs more value and they straight DGAF

[fallen plover]

yup

they had a golden chance

[errant ice]

Why was Hondro the only team member speaking

[tulip sky]

That's what it should have been

[fallen plover]

"hey, we really messed up. tickets can be redeemed for a shoe in the US and we'll figure out something for people outside the US who don't want to redeem." everything would have been fine.

[molten isle]

It's a tricky situation I hope they can do something for us

[void zealot]

make the base model free to forge, or at least make it a 50% discount, or give the LEs future utility...anything

would have kept the community happy and made the mint a success imo

[molten isle]

But crazy that they didn't think about that before

[tulip sky]

They basically doubled down that they did nothing wrong and all the fuss was supposedly because they didn't drop the next mnlth immediately

[ruby skiff]

Check out the SNKRS app. There is link to an upcoming session on IRL linked to the new swoosh franchise. There is also a photo of and IRL blue color way.

[prisma ledge]

The problem moving forward was they were selling a BIG narrative before. Now the trust is gone, so what are we hoping for now that could rebound prices on the ecosystem?

[keen burrow]

not everything. would've helped for sure, but they still didn't acknowledge what happened with m2, why secondary sales were allowed to up to the prices they went to while knowing the contents inside. that i wanted to hear.

[fallen plover]

Right. Agreed.

[molten isle]

Airdrop

[prisma ledge]

airdrop what

they tried that today

[tulip sky]

The only way to fix this is free shoe for lace engine holders

[sullen crystal]

How much will these resell for say 2-3 years from now? Since supply is limited this could be a nice collector item in the future

[molten isle]

Something cool for holders at the Snapshot

[worldly frigate]

I think $13.37

[tulip sky]

And another worldwide option for ppl outside usa

[mint shell]

Y’all ain’t gettin nothing free and they will sell out its sneakers only 20k of em

[fallen plover]

lol no they wont

[worldly frigate]

Hhhhh

[keen burrow]

i wouldnt count on it

[tulip sky]

Doubt it

[worldly frigate]

If they sell out, they faked it.

[tulip sky]

Not for that price

[mint shell]

This shoe is the first crypto kick trust

[prisma ledge]

Normies HATE crypto, have you not noticed? So if we ain't buying it, who is?

[sullen crystal]

Lol na seriously. You if this brand blows up then this is a shoe that coulda be worth a lot if kept in mint condition

[tight plaza]

What a mess

[keen burrow]

and nobody cares lol

[void zealot]

if that were true people would be scooping the LEs at a premium. Guaranteed spot and a .1 discount? Instead the fp is .09 💀

[topaz dagger]

No legitimate influencers in the sneaker community have said anything about these. Concerning and doubt they sell out tbh.

[mint shell]

Wait till other nft projects do color collabs for the lights

[prisma ledge]

can't tell if you are being sarcastic

[fallen plover]

a lot of people deep in crypto dont seem to get this.

[keen burrow]

lol like sketchers?

[fallen plover]

This stuff isn't cool outside of crypto circles right now. People actively hate it.

[molten isle]

If they don't sellout less supply Price 📈

[slate rover]

So not worthy buying a trillium lace engine?

Sorry just new here

[void zealot]

low supply is only half the equation

[worldly frigate]

If you want the shoe, then yes.

[keen burrow]

if they wanted to appeal to the masses outside of this space, they would not have called these cryptokicks. and it definitely was an oversight and horrible strategy loool

[fallen plover]

if you want to buy the shoe, it's a discount coupon. That's it.

[fallen plover]

I have major doubts about RTFKT leadership at this point. Very disappointed.

[slate rover]

I see I see … thanks bud

[void zealot]

if you REALLY want the shoe, then yes...it gives you a guaranteed spot and right now the fp is less than the .1 discount so it pays for itself

[prisma ledge]

I wonder if the founders being ESL had something to do with that maybe?

[slate rover]

Mm thanks bud

[void zealot]

but you gotta shell out .3 more

[keen burrow]

nah, just no awareness

no sense. these had to be approved by nike too i'm sure. tone deaf

[slate rover]

I mean I liked the shoes honestly…

[worldly frigate]

The shoe is not the problem, how they did everything is the problem 🙂

[keen burrow]

then you should get a lace engine so you can have guarantee mint during private mint

[fallen plover]

the shoes are cool imo, but im not buying them on principle.

[proper island]

Im moving to degods, what do you think guys

[void zealot]

i feel like expectation of buying the M2 for $2k or more is that you were already buying what was inside

[prisma ledge]

Yeah, if we got the shoe free and everything tanked...oh well, they tried.

[sullen crystal]

No one does everything perfect. Go read all the comments on Nike’s Instagram posts, they are getting dragged for cutting Kyrie.

[proper island]

Sol is discount

[slate rover]

Yes yess I’ve been following that …

[slate rover]

I feel you brother

[molten isle]

Rip

[worldly frigate]

This is not making a mistake, this is scamming and acting like its a mistake

[proper island]

Elaborate that could you

[fallen plover]

100%. When they were trading at those prices, everyone at RTFKT should have taken a step back and been like "wait guys, this is a COUPON." But i guess if they did that they wouldn't have been able to reap 100s of thousands of dollars in royalties for 8 months.

[molten isle]

Rtfkt 1000% above

[outer prism]

IS there a deadline on when you need to have a lace engine (for the early access) and can you buy multiple pairs with 1 lace engine or is it 1:1 redemption?

[prisma ledge]

Remember when Lukson tried to warn us? He was a real one.....

[mint shell]

What did he say

[prisma ledge]

After MNLTH 1 he tweeted saying not to overhype it

something like that and everyone was furious because it tanked the price...but he was being honest lol

[molten isle]

Speculators are unstoppable

Price dropped for 3 days

[fallen plover]

I don't remember this, but the RTFKT official twitter hyped it up as an "innovation product" and Benito suggested similarly.

https://twitter.com/benitopagotto/status/1519949793342095361

https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896

[rain otter]

If you want alpha

Don’t buy RTFKT product

They’re just Nike sluts

And try to milk as much as they can the web3 community

[molten isle]

Buy Degods

[sullen crystal]

I mean there aren’t many shoes like this out there and you get MNLTH X. They don’t control the secondary prices

[molten isle]

So bullish

[outer prism]

they were like this before nike though -if u remember the dutch auction mint, need change of management for sure

[molten isle]

And it's an invention drop

They didn't lie

[fickle wasp]

How many minted am egg for the smart sneaker?

[keen burrow]

but they could... don't you get that? lol

[prisma ledge]

RTFKT invented the mint pass and coupon, thanks for clearing that up @molten isle

[fallen plover]

lol come on dude. that's an empty argument.

[worldly frigate]

No lol, this is a rugpull. Clonex DA wasnt a rugpull

[molten isle]

They invented the CryptoKicks a sneaker revolution

[worldly frigate]

Failed nike line?

[outer prism]

not a ruggpull but incentives of management not aligned with community -hence they always go the route that is most profitable for them

[prisma ledge]

We are on the wrong side of the revolution then

[sullen crystal]

At the end of the day we are all speculating on this stuff. Put in money you can lose. This isn’t yielding a dividend or giving out cap gains. We get air drops of stuff no one knows will be worth anything

[molten isle]

Nike did a move to earn? I wasn't aware

[worldly frigate]

No, hiding important details is rugpull. They cashgrab

[worldly frigate]

No but M2E already exist

[proper island]

Sure, after all this happen?

[tulip sky]

Not wrong

[molten isle]

M2E with Nike athletes

[fallen plover]

"we don't control secondary prices, but we hype up the box with false info and collect 10% of the sales"

[keen burrow]

the shoe itself has nothing to do with what this is for web3 though. you could put a chip inside any legacy shoe and it could still use that chip tech. just because it self laces and all that doesn't mean jack.

[molten isle]

But Degods iyw you'll see in the future

[worldly frigate]

Which nike athletes? The shoe is from RTFKT not from nike. Not even a nike logo

[tulip sky]

Guys I think if you just hold on to your mnlth X you will get close to breaking even.

[worldly frigate]

Cap

[worldly frigate]

MX is just another coupon

[keen burrow]

tell me what would happen if rtfkt revealed the mnlth early on. you think they would stll be spending 5000+ on that shoe coupon?

[molten isle]

Why the shoes are on the SNKRS app?

[fallen plover]

it will be very innovative because it will be a coupon on a future coupon.

[tulip sky]

They won't disappoint with the next drop

After this debacle

[undone rover]

lesson learned. coupon plus mnlth y box. it’ll be coupons all the way down

[sullen crystal]

If that’s true then this whole brand will really be over and these projects are dead

[prisma ledge]

This has been said SO many times in here after a mint lol

[worldly frigate]

Which one?

[hybrid summit]

If they really believed that they would have fixed this one. It is not too late.

[worldly frigate]

Thats why floor is so high of MX

[keen burrow]

an attempt to market the shoe to people who have deaf ears for crypto

[molten isle]

Nike SNKRS app

Think bigger

[tulip sky]

It will rise later ppl have short memory

[worldly frigate]

Lol

[prisma ledge]

Where else they gonna unload the unsold inventory lol

[proper island]

What do you think 1000% rtfkt more and degods not….? Just curious

[sullen crystal]

No but if you know exactly what you’re buying then no one would be trading these things at a premium. Everyone is speculating. Same with the clone price, etc.

[keen burrow]

what did you expect though. to constantly be wowed forever and forever? that doesn't last especially in the timeframe people expect stuff in this space.

[void zealot]

only to get dumped on the next batch of suckers and reveal to be a coupon

[rancid isle]

Does anyone know when the nike dunk genesis are revealed?

[tulip sky]

They still dropped tons of things all thru bear market. What did Yuga do so far? Or azuki? Not much

[prisma ledge]

you are joking, right?

[tulip sky]

No?

[molten isle]

Degods : degens on Solana SBF chain

[keen burrow]

when the thing inside the box is a set fiat price. and people are buying these things for $5,000+, you dont think it's unethical to maybe tell someone idk within those 8 months?

instead of hyping it up to be something new and innovative

[sullen crystal]

I’m talking specifically MX. I think they can over deliver .5 eth

[molten isle]

Rtfkt : with Nike doing Epic things

[rancid isle]

Does anyone know when the nike dunk genesis are revealed?

[tulip sky]

Never

[proper island]

Yes yes i heard about SBF the reason solana price drop half…

[fervent gale]

It’s not high lol it’s .5

Unless I’m look at the wrong one

[worldly frigate]

Sarcastic…

[rancid isle]

Sorry for the question, but I asked why I would be interested in buying

[void zealot]

yeah hes being sarcastic

[keen burrow]

that's the problem. they say things like "we will definitely deliver, or you better stack those mnlth x boxes", like come on bro. they are just hyping stuff up to set people up again.

[prisma ledge]

I snatched a .65 offer right away lol

[worldly frigate]

I think .5 is pretty high for a rugpull concept

[tulip sky]

It's cheap now. But could be years before the physical is a available

[prisma ledge]

We have been debating this question for 48 hours my man, hop in

[molten isle]

You guys want to buy cheaper ?

[rain otter]

https://twitter.com/punk6995/status/1601042005848571904?s=46&t=3pHj54ffBmYN9GMbZIR3UA

[tiny fox]

why not airdrop something to people who use the coupon as intended?

[tulip sky]

Founders get a percentage of royalties on all rtfkt nfts

[keen burrow]

i know

[molten isle]

We are speculating lose money and now WE want everything for free please

[errant ice]

Lol “Nike Sluts”

[tiny fox]

or buy one get one free colorway for LE holders 🤘🤘

[rancid isle]

Excuse me, I just joined the discord group, can you explain to me if you like the situation in a few words?

[tulip sky]

As long as u guys are buying the overpriced shoes the more this will continue

[molten isle]

You're betting on innovation they're taking risks

[prisma ledge]

I'm just joking with you, but after recent events we are all pondering the future of RTFKT and if we should ever buy anything from them again

[rain otter]

No we need to wait for a pump to sell into new people that are not educated.

Those founders forced us to put us into a pump & dump scheme

While they blamed us about speculation

[void zealot]

and passing the buck to us, while bathing in those sweet royalties

[molten isle]

If you want a drop with nothing new there are a lot of projects for yoy

[keen burrow]

you mean taking our money

[prisma ledge]

Just ignore him lol

[solid vector]

Let’s take a moment to show some appreciation to the mods.

@nova ingot @limber pivot @dire onyx - truly appreciate you and the other mods. Often times the community takes their anger out on you all, and people don’t realize their is a human on the receiving end of their messages.
❤️ you

[hybrid summit]

Nope never touching this rug project ecosystem again

[tiny fox]

For on average $1000 pair of shoes airdrop something nice and cozy to minters

[fierce glacier]

Then leave

[limber pivot]

thats unnecessary but thank you king

[brittle scarab]

my wallet contains the lace engine but its asking me to join the public draw

[limber pivot]

watch people come at my neck with complaints now 😂

[molten isle]

You were speculating on an innovation nobody forced you to buy

[tulip sky]

Because u can't mint with lace engine yet

[solid vector]

Nah. The way you all get treated sometimes is unnecessary.

[nova ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-wonderful-human-youre-a-great-person-youre-fantastic-youre-amazing-youre-awesome-gif-15328827

💚

[hybrid summit]

No I still have nfts to sell and to warn others, you leave

[void bison]

Hi, I bought 3 NFT Lace Engine on opensea.

However, in my RTFKT inventory, I only see one NFT, why are the other two not showing?

[errant ice]

Dude, you messed up so bad wtf

[brittle scarab]

wdytm?

[prisma ledge]

True! Lets see if we re-open the Enron case and get those guys an innocent record!

[tulip sky]

It's erc1155

[limber pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-confess-admit-fart-smelly-gif-14483983

[brittle scarab]

when is mint?

[solid vector]

They gotta get through (threw? @nova ingot ) my neck first.

[rancid isle]

And also it seems like a good project many collaborations and a lot of turnout ... isn't that so or am I misunderstood?

[errant ice]

Oh my god, I haven’t seen that movie in ages!

[fierce glacier]

No I still like rtfkt, not calling it a rug. This is a community for the project, if you think it’s a rug then leave and don’t get rugged

[tulip sky]

Idk ask the mods 🤣

[keen burrow]

yes and that's on me, but it's on them for not telling us the actual worth of that thing inside

[tiny fox]

lace me up daddy

[errant ice]

Peak Jim Carey, that and Truman show/mask

[solid vector]

Wait. Who is @tiny fox ? That name is hilarious.

[hybrid summit]

I have already been rugged and I have as much right to be here as you

[rain otter]

This @west glacier main take during the space was ‪ : “we will try to improve our communication like that they’re will be less speculation” 💀‬

Like they’re mistake is only about our speculation ?

[void zealot]

and hyping it up for eight months, then handing us a turd of an NFT

[void bison]

That means ?

[rancid isle]

And also it seems like a good project many collaborations and a lot of turnout ... isn't that so or am I misunderstood?

[molten isle]

There's no mistery if you tell what's inside but with the first one it was expected to be a sneaker again and I can't see anything better than this

[solid vector]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-poop-again-boots-smelly-gif-7712112

[molten isle]

I was expecting a Jordan for mnlth2

[nova ingot]

Yes you threw it and it went through

[prisma ledge]

I can't take you seriously if you spell mystery like that lol (Not that I ever took you seriously)

[molten isle]

They took a risk

[tulip sky]

If u guys think about it. Mnlth has given us zero free things since mnlth 1 🤔 but generated the team millions in royalties

[void zealot]

exactly and if there's no mystery than they cant hype it up for 8 months and bank 2 million in royalties. then hand us a .1 coupon for shoes no one wants

[molten isle]

I'm not an english speaker

[rain otter]

Yes about 14 millions USD

BUT YEAH WERE BAD WERE THE SPECULATOR

[stable frost]

I got my lace engine…..what color cryptokick should I buy guys?

[solid vector]

Threw through thru

[worldly frigate]

RTFKT<PIXELMON

[keen burrow]

so they value mystery over secondary buyers who are trying to join the ecosystem only to get screwed over?

[worldly frigate]

Space drip, they need the money

[tulip sky]

None send it to burn address

[molten isle]

That's on you to speculate and believe there will be 5 bitcoin inside

[solid vector]

When I click on your bio it looks like your punk is blowing a whistle with the grey status dot

[brittle scarab]

lace engine mint is dec 12 until 10:30 am est or starts at 10:30 am est?

[solid vector]

Yay don’t fud my pixelmon bag. Best 3eth ever spent.

Diamond handing that.

[keen burrow]

and how did mystery even work out for anyone other than RTFKT lol

[tulip sky]

Don't stalk him

[stable frost]

I kinda like the blackout, I’m thinking of wearing them

[solid vector]

Tf? I just clicked on his name lmao

[radiant vessel]

DOES IT MEAN IF THE FP IS AT 10 ETH FOR MNLTH YOU GUYS SHOULD GET A TESLA EACH?

[void zealot]

LOL what a way to build a community! Hype up a mystery box so you get millions in royalties off new people to the ecosystem and then blame them for "speculating" when you hand them a turd. I thought this was a supposed blue chip?

[solid vector]

And I’ll stalk whoever I want.

[worldly frigate]

Noooo too cheap, give them money

[hybrid summit]

When founders openly tweet that the mnlth2 is an invention drop when it is a 10% off coupon, that is unethical and a rug.

[worldly frigate]

No but it means we should not get a coupon.

[molten isle]

They said it's an invention drop and respect that how can they manage secondary buyers

[radiant vessel]

that's why you guys get a snapshot and got a mnlth x.

[prisma ledge]

https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896?s=20&t=yaEzHQ3mZYpzO5zjXyiGDQ

[stable frost]

Lol, on a serious note, I’ve been deep in NFTs for almost 2 years and also in the sneaker game and I honestly think these cryptokicks irl may have a descent ROI

[prisma ledge]

long term, maybe. The short future is bleak

[void zealot]

they had eight months to manage secondary. Either come clean that the reveal is a coupon or change the reveal so is a more even value exchange. when you fail at that and bank 2 million dollars the community is gonna be PISSED

[worldly frigate]

😂😂😂

[keen burrow]

you manage realistic expectation by revealing the damn thing. not let people spend $5000 for $150 off a $500 shoe LOL

[worthy bluff]

I dnt believe you're a sneakerhead off this statement..

[void zealot]

for 8 months LOL

[void bison]

I bought 3 NFT Lace Engine on opensea.

However, in my RTFKT inventory, I only see one NFT, why are the other two not showing? can someone help me ?

[molten isle]

The community is not pissed by royalties but expected something free inside and worth 2 trillions $

[worldly frigate]

You got scammed

[tulip sky]

Yeah $1200 geoblocked shoe has a lot of upside

[solid vector]

It should show a qty in the one when you click on it

Should show how many you own

[keen burrow]

LOOOL

[proper island]

We expect 132 dollar worth not 130 dollar coupon

[void zealot]

the founders made 2 million dollars BECAUSE the community expected something free inside. thats the scam

[molten isle]

They can't control floor price

[spiral bronze]

why is it even a coupon , i spent 35k usd at the time for 4 boxes of mnthl2 , and i get a coupon? why dont you just give the shoes for free

[molten isle]

Thay didn't say it was free inside

You believe something that's on you

[worldly frigate]

Funny how mod sold her M2 before chaos while saying she doesnt knew about anything

[void bison]

ok thanks

[void zealot]

come on dude your jock carrying for the team is getting sad

[tulip sky]

Because Nike shareholders need your money

[limber pivot]

we didnt

i can 100% guarantee that

[worldly frigate]

She even admit it in the chat?

[keen burrow]

have some empathy dude lol not everyone has a clone and got airdropped free boxes

[limber pivot]

?

[molten isle]

You said it : "the community expected something free inside"

[limber pivot]

where

[proper island]

It should be ‘3x’ you should see carefully

[solid vector]

That’s how the erc-1155 tokens work

[tulip sky]

Ben said mnlth 2 is the best entry for newcomers when it was trading above 3eth 🤣🤣

[worldly frigate]

Dont make me get my laptop and search for it

[spiral bronze]

they got us good

[void zealot]

of course they did. Thats why they paid thousands of dollars. and the founders responded by dumping a coupon for a shoe that no one wants

[proper island]

The shoes worth 350k bruh chill

[molten isle]

Have empathy for the team first you don't respect them

[keen burrow]

have empathy for the team? what for?

[void zealot]

that we agree on

they dont need my respect they got my ETH

[void bison]

yes when I click on it, I am redirected to opensea and it tells me that I am the holder of 3 NFTs

[worthy bluff]

Mf I don't respect no one who robs ppl I'll get my lick back tho

[proper island]

Okay thats it you safe

[molten isle]

You give your Eth to speculate sorry

[spiral bronze]

i speculate a rug

[delicate marsh]

This seems to be playing out quite well, can’t wait to get my first clone 🙂

[molten isle]

It's innovation you bet on an ecosystem

[solid vector]

It’s just fake internet money 🤷🏼‍♂️

[void zealot]

bro youre a broken record. you're bending over backwards to defend a scam. its sad.

[prisma ledge]

You are right, I don't.

[molten isle]

You don't know what a scam is

Ftx, Luna, etc

[void zealot]

stay out of my mentions bruh youre out of pocket

[prisma ledge]

was it @proven torrent

[molten isle]

You have the coupon for a guaranteed mint + mnlth X

[hybrid summit]

Mnlth2 can now be added to that list

[molten isle]

Cry babies

[delicate marsh]

How?

[keen burrow]

i respect what they've built so far. but how do you expect me to respect them when they can't even own up to allowing secondary buyers to be spending thousands on something so miniscule. and for 8 months at that while reaping in 10% on royalties every time. not to mention not letting international residents know that theirs are worthless.

[errant ice]

MNLTHX

[spiral bronze]

u defo hold nothing

[delicate marsh]

MNLTH x baby

[void bison]

can someone explain to me why the price of the NFT Lace Engine is dropping drastically ?

[limber pivot]

i'd like to see what theyre referring to because i at least had no idea

[void zealot]

dont bother dude its a lost cause to argue

[errant ice]

MNLTHX

[chilly valve]

Lets at least agree this portion of the project is a ETH grab

[hybrid summit]

The founders blatantly lied and profiteered

[spiral bronze]

i bought 35k usd worth of boxes i dont even care tbh but i just laugh it off i should of just realised the royalty fees were sus very money hungry

[prisma ledge]

Yeah, I want to know too.

[delicate marsh]

What did they lie about

[errant ice]

Calling Nike a scam is laughable

[prisma ledge]

@limber pivot i can't paste it but it's in the MNTLH chat

[molten isle]

Like I said you can't control a secondary market nobody force you to buy and be hype they're following their plan for their holders

[limber pivot]

how far back tho

[prisma ledge]

channels/686661995121868830/981944864889532507/1049632994958262303

@limber pivot

[limber pivot]

ill check ty

[delicate marsh]

Where did they state the product was available for all, please show me

[hybrid summit]

They tweeted that mnlth 2 was an invention drop when it was in fact a discount coupon. Then profiteered from this lie.

[delicate marsh]

It was an invention, the invention was the crypto kicks Irl. Silly goose

[molten isle]

I was talking about Ftx and Luna personally

[rancid isle]

There’s a lot of confusion

[keen burrow]

you don't think if they revealed what that was that people wouldn't stop spending $5000 plus on those boxes? you're telling me they would still be going for that much? how is that not an example of being able to control the market with realistic expectations

[hybrid summit]

Invention drop?

[spiral bronze]

your right none of us were forced, just like when someone gets hacked or scammed it is the victims fault at the end of the day. Doesn't stop us from calling out RTFKT so if you could shut up thatd be great because you dont even hold any RTFKT nfts

[limber pivot]

ok so anyha didn't say that

and also just because they sell something doesnt mean they know what was inside

[prisma ledge]

I'm looking at both her wallets right now

[worldly frigate]

Oooh btw the mod who sold before the chaos. ''We mods know nothing'' yeah right

[prisma ledge]

standby

[limber pivot]

i mean we're allowed to buy and sell stuff

[prisma ledge]

LOL WOOOOOW

[delicate marsh]

Imagine someone wanting to take profits and making an assumption they had insider knowledge

[spiral bronze]

how do i check that

[prisma ledge]

Anyha has a secondary wallet called SirJRG

[limber pivot]

im confused tho

she even said she didnt know until everyone did lol

[prisma ledge]

She dumped right before lol

[molten isle]

Is the lace engine supposed to show up under my NFTs? My account says your inventory is empty 🤔

[delicate marsh]

Lmao ikr

[prisma ledge]

Yeah, I lie sometimes too. Especially when it's illegal

[spiral bronze]

could be coincidence to be fair

[limber pivot]

well i just told you that we didn't know 💀

[uneven zealot]

Insider trading doesn’t apply to NFTs lol

[hybrid summit]

This whole project started out with insider trading

[delicate marsh]

Just let them make assumptions, he’s making himself look dumb

[prisma ledge]

lol cool, thanks your input

[delicate marsh]

You’re welcome

[errant ice]

So how about that weather?

[spiral bronze]

well they defo do some insider trading for sure but my point is that is not evidence

[limber pivot]

man idk what to say

we didn't know

[worldly frigate]

Yeah sure

[delicate marsh]

I can’t believe u knew and didn’t tell me

[limber pivot]

😐

[delicate marsh]

😂

[tiny fox]

what do i get air dropped with my $1000 shoes

[prisma ledge]

lets see your wallet 👀

[worldly frigate]

Everything is a coincidence for RTFKT team.

[limber pivot]

https://opensea.io/FelonVault

[delicate marsh]

It’s public I see him trading in and out of pods a lot, doesn’t mean he knows what’s going on lol

[limber pivot]

enjoy seeing my losses lol

[delicate marsh]

But it’s cool, keep making assumptions. Maybe then you’ll get somewhere

[worldly frigate]

Nice clonex tho

[limber pivot]

thx i totally overpaid for it

[errant ice]

All you hold is rtkft?

[limber pivot]

yes 😂

[delicate marsh]

Omg u bought a clone at 20th!!!! Insider trading ALERT

I can’t believe u knew they were going to 5 eth and bought at 20

[solid vector]

Ooo are we sharing losses? Want to see my wallet that I’ve dedicated to rugs?

[tulip sky]

I believe mods don't have any knowledge because I have asked them things enough times 🤣

[errant ice]

Curios what naming system is .swoosh hosted on? Not handshake right?

[limber pivot]

are u looking for pity

[spiral bronze]

yep

[solid vector]

Always

[delicate marsh]

Want to see a real rug!? I spent 20 eth on look labs. These mfs don’t know what a rug and scam is

[limber pivot]

no idea but heres the os collection https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0xf4e9cec411ad8f99eaf02d5952d24c791c78e6d7/8968

[delicate marsh]

Lmk when u come face to face with beanie

[limber pivot]

never heard of it

[prisma ledge]

Anyone else is free to dig into Onlyalpha.ETH

[worn mason]

Hey @drifting summit I sent you a FR when you have a minute. Thanks!

[worldly frigate]

We spend a volume of 15k eth on a rug and scam project called MNLTH2 🙂

[dreamy kite]

Hi

[uneven zealot]

Sheesh, didn’t know mods weee making that kind of money lol

[limber pivot]

losing*

[delicate marsh]

U got the LE and and MNLTH x, u have no idea what a scam and rug is

[errant ice]

So it’s on polygon? Is it that .pol naming system, with the .pol TLD hidden? Where can I find out or ask the team?

[worldly frigate]

LE aint a scam?

[molten isle]

Yes it's on Polygon

[delicate marsh]

Not one bit, garuntees u access to the limited drop

[hybrid summit]

A scam and a rug is where a founder tweets something that is blatantly untrue and then profiteers from it

[limber pivot]

i'm afraid i don't have much info since swoosh isn't directly connected to rtfkt like that

[prisma ledge]

You act like we haven't lost money on other projects. I took a bath on GNSS, but I knew what I was getting into. I was duped by RTFKT on these boxes. Plain and simple.

[delicate marsh]

U have been saying this but can’t provide any accurate info

[hybrid summit]

The tweet is Crystal clear

[spark nest]

Can we get a swoosh name now?

[prisma ledge]

https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896

[molten isle]

You were duped by yourself*

[limber pivot]

its still in closed beta

[tulip sky]

Guys in bear market just buy things you like don't invest because u will probably lose money 😤

[worldly frigate]

You havent here been here for a while. They did false advertisement and hiding important informations. Thats a scam

[molten basalt]

What was the mint price for MNLTH X guys

[delicate marsh]

I think it’s an invention drop, the irl kicks are awesome

[prisma ledge]

lol

[spiral bronze]

extreme fear in the market

[worldly frigate]

GNSS hurt me 2

[delicate marsh]

Please show

[prisma ledge]

goofies all up in this chat tonight

[delicate marsh]

Yea u

[uneven zealot]

Holy hell

[molten isle]

Extreme anger

[spiral bronze]

true

[molten isle]

Depression soon

[uneven zealot]

This isn’t said enough

[spiral bronze]

yeah

[worldly frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gerara-get-out-of-here-give-me-a-favor-go-away-gif-16947532

[tulip sky]

One more when you showed up 🤣

[delicate marsh]

I know a lot of other people who love it too

[prisma ledge]

Just can't believe the kids shilling for a bunch of millionaires who aren't even in the chat. Doing their dirty work. Unreal lol

[worldly frigate]

You are even worse than people who are fudding.

[prisma ledge]

Yeah, the price of the LE really reflects the hype. Selling like mad

[delicate marsh]

How? Because I like a product ?

[spiral bronze]

what product do you like sir

[void zealot]

.09 fp for a WL pass and .1 discount. Yeah such DEMAND

😂

[prisma ledge]

LOL

[full hamlet]

Is there a recap of Twitter spaces or did it not happen yet?

[autumn flame]

Clonex 🔜 3.5 FP

[hybrid summit]

TLDR - they are sorry that we were dumb enough to fall for their scams and don’t plan on doing anything tangible to fix.

[prisma ledge]

It's on their twitter

[worldly frigate]

The product is not the problem, the way how they did it is. People spending around 1k and 30k for MNLTH2 while RTFKT kept saying its a innovation and good way to join RTFKT ecosystem. Then US-shipping what they knew beforehand but kept secret. So many more problems about how they did all of this. All part of their plan to scam people with MNLTH2

[delicate marsh]

So because you speculated, it’s their fault. Got it.

[spiral bronze]

test

why cant they ship internationally?

[delicate marsh]

I got a free soccer jersey.

[errant ice]

I got a cool ens name out of this

[prisma ledge]

You can shill all you want hope they pick you as the next volunteer mod, but the prices speak for themselves. The team admitted fault and liable for fraud. But please, go on.

[worldly frigate]

So the innovation is a $130 discount coupon?

[worldly frigate]

Legal issues

[uneven zealot]

So.. we all buying eggs still?

[zenith light]

Let’s move on from the nintendo kicks already 🙂

[analog robin]

Time will tell

[molten isle]

How saying it's an innovation drop would justify a 30k floor price ? Easy to blame the team for everything

[empty island]

whats the rtfkt monolith x for?

[spiral bronze]

they probs upped the price of the shoe anyway

[worldly frigate]

What?

[molten isle]

Mystery

[empty island]

shiiiiitttt 0.5e for shoes?

[errant ice]

Keep my names out yo mouf

[hybrid summit]

Mystery is watching your eth vanish

[empty island]

lmao

[molten isle]

In bullrun it was watching it climb mountains

[hybrid summit]

How does that excuse founders tweeting false information?

[molten isle]

Nobody ever invest before here ?

[zenith light]

I remember seeing MNLTH 1 at 12 ETH

[worldly frigate]

Mods real question here. Do I lose my Lace Engine holding if I burn/forge? I dont want to leave the coupon-holders chat....

[void zealot]

poof

[molten isle]

Nobody was complaining weird

[hybrid summit]

Rugs are rugs, whether ftx or Rtfkt - where founders blatantly lie it is a scam

[empty island]

will history repeat itself for the x.....?

[worldly frigate]

100%.

The same people defending RTFKT are the same people who would defend SBF

[errant ice]

I think sbf is a whole new level lol

[uneven crag]

is there like a quick guide for all this stuff for newbs?

[worldly frigate]

RTFKT acting the same by dodging questions and giving out useless answers?

[worldly frigate]

Which stuff my friend?

[errant ice]

Hondro was out here taking heat for a while haha, said he’s taking a short break then coming back too

[tulip sky]

Until the mnlthx flops and then you have the worst name 🤣

[uneven crag]

i guess start with the mnlth situation lol i think i understand everyting else

[uneven crag]

plz lol

[errant ice]

Nooooooo, don’t wish it upon me @pulsar mortar hit my line

[worldly frigate]

Taking a well deserved break after this scam.

[proper island]

Take breaking up sex🤐🤭

[molten isle]

What can be inside Mnlth X?

[spiral bronze]

not much

[molten isle]

X means unknown

[proper island]

A rainbow lace

[errant ice]

You open it up, it’s a birthday cake. Inside the birthday cake is me in a onesie

[spiral bronze]

a mutant clonex

[lethal rivet]

26 CLONE X - X TAKASHI MURAKAMI sold for 0.000 ETH ($0) from RTFKT BOT
Are these all stolen?

[molten isle]

I prefer a Degods

[proper island]

Tesla X

[errant ice]

Yep

[molten isle]

Transfert from an account to another maybe

[lethal rivet]

but how you guys know? maybe owner just doing some testing

[proper nimbus]

At this point are the shoes even going to ship? Or are they going to collect all ETH for the final score?

[errant ice]

People announced it on Twitter

[lethal rivet]

I see

[prisma ledge]

It's a hack. Opensea xss signature

[molten isle]

No Nike is gonna exit scam

[radiant jacinth]

Any channel to put clones on the market?

[molten isle]

Shoes are a myth

Air force 1 Space Drip are a myth

[worldly frigate]

All clonex holders were gifted a MNLTH. Out of MNLTH 1 there came 3 things. Dunk genesis, Skin vial and MNLTH2. You could choose if you want to open MNLTH1 or not. MNLTH1 reached 10eth at a point. Would be worth around 30k. So we all knew what RTFKT was capable of. Many people bought MNLTH2 for a huge price. Bought between 1k and 20k. After 8 months of waiting, the team RTFKT decided to force open MNLTH2. Meanwhile in those 8 months the team hyped everyone up by saying its an innovation and its a good way to join RTFKT ecosystem. After MNLTH2 forcefully opened, we found out it was just a $130 discount coupon. MNLTH2 became LE (Lace Engine). LE is a WL spot to forge/mint a iRL sneaker that is worth at least $450. Beside that LE has no other use. So people spend around $1000 and $20000 just to get a NFT that basically is a discount coupon to buy a sneaker worth $450. Oooh btw, the sneaker is only US-shipping so people outside US cant get them. If they want it, the founder of RTFKT said 'fake a friend'' and ship it to him, pay reshipping cost and pay customs. Did I also mention that the sneaker is the same as a failed nike line? Did I also mention that we community are being treated as a consumer even though we holded something for 8 months?

[lethal rivet]

Sad bro🥲 That is a huge money.

[prisma ledge]

Yeah, unfortunate

[spiral bronze]

i think its funny that they make even more money when you buy there shoe , free advertisement aswell

makes u feel forced to buy the shoe therefore profiting them again

[rain otter]

How greedy can they be, leaving the royalties on the MNLTH

RTFKT are now NIKE sluts

[prisma ledge]

The mod (Anyha) sold her MNTLH 2 for 1.6E, using an alt address (onlyalpha.eth). She then transferred her CloneX to her Anyha address shortly after. All before public reveal. Sus,

[spiral bronze]

mods have 0 power tho

[prisma ledge]

I just said it's sus.

Read what I said and tell me you won't at least say "sus"

[spiral bronze]

yeah but its 1 mod

[worldly frigate]

They are forcing it

[prisma ledge]

(i'll get banned now or muted lol)

[spiral bronze]

I think the Anyha is a coincidence but what isnt is the blatant scamming from RTFKT 😂

[radiant vessel]

while you guys are complaining, im just chilling here with my MNLTH X knowing that it will give me an airdrop for MNLTH X PRO

[fervent gale]

Then you get MNLTH X PRO MAX

[prisma ledge]

If only we could RTFKTCare on our products. 1 year protection against rugs

[proper nimbus]

Is there actually a Nike Swoosh on the CryptoKicks IRL?

[worldly frigate]

We already know, she even admit it

[spiral bronze]

where did she admit it

[tulip sky]

Interesting

[uneven crag]

dang that went left lol

[worldly frigate]

here,

[tulip sky]

Lots of ppl sold pre reveal it's basically the go to strat for not getting rekt

[worldly frigate]

It's even worse, the story could go on longer

[worldly frigate]

4People sold right after snapshot, thats a strat for not getting rekt.

[lethal rivet]

Mint price 2~3e x 20000, 10% fee on the egg / mnlth, acquired by NIKE, and don't let us doing trade on blur.
This is not the web3 look like. They are even richer than Azuki but why so greedy?

[tulip sky]

That's sad to other ppl but yea

[river swift]

Am interested @radiant jacinth

[molten isle]

Then you get mnlth x pro max ultra

[worldly frigate]

#RTFKTgreed

[dense kestrel]

But then what about Mnlth X Ultra Instinct 👀

Bought one earlier today hahaha

[uneven crag]

i added you bro i have questions lol

[worldly frigate]

Everyone knows MNLTHX contains a $250 discount coupon that is worth 38k for a car that you only can use in beverly hills.

[dense kestrel]

My inner instinct says they will make up for the mistake. Just gotta let them make it up

[molten isle]

Then they tell you there are no more mnlths

[worldly frigate]

They wont make up, they will just move on

[hybrid summit]

They still have time to fix this mistake now, they just choose not to. So why would you trust them for the future?

[rain otter]

Exactly !

[molten isle]

So the sneaker heads still saying they are a no go?

[void zealot]

they could make it up immediately by making the Breakout models free to forge for LE holders. Like, that would clear up so much FUD. and would actually help these things mint out which is not looking likely

[tulip sky]

They will fix it next time I've been here since Oct 22 so I know them well

[rain otter]

Their way to fix is to hype the new product

instead of fix the previous mess

[hybrid summit]

Why not fix it now? Just need to delay the mint

[molten isle]

What mess have they ever fixed?

[tulip sky]

I can't I'm not a founder

[hybrid summit]

It just shows they don’t care about the community

[molten isle]

They told us there would be new announcements and solutions today.. we see how that went

[rain otter]

https://twitter.com/punk6995/status/1601042005848571904

Anyway remember those founders are now nike sluts

[tulip sky]

That's rude

[rain otter]

now gonna leave this discord

[jolly sigil]

see #993309652941017088 update on Faze x RTFKT for a great example

[lethal rivet]

🫡

[void zealot]

thats what happens when web3 founders take web2 money...the holders come second to their VC overlords and earnings calls

[hybrid summit]

Founders that are profits before principles

[south flicker]

i mean comeon, nike adapt bb is an outlet shoes lol

like who cares it gives some m2e untillity or nah, shoes are wack soley

[prisma ledge]

The funny thing is if they had said "MNLTH 2 is for US Holders only". It would have pumped the price even higher because people would have thought they were getting an $APE like airdrop. They would have profited MORE being truthful lol

[junior bobcat]

Just sold my 2 mnlth2 for 0.0949 each. LFG 🚀🚀🚀

[south flicker]

i woudln't even bought the shoe without a doubt even if it's shipping to non-us lol

and what, got to mint a poke-ball that gives like 2dollar discount with mnlth x? lol

[molten isle]

Str8 moon action

Wait wagmi??

[junior bobcat]

Can’t buy the shoe you don’t like. I was going to support as I hold many genesis kicks. But now no way. Don’t like things with coupon discounts. I have some class.

[molten isle]

!Hodl

[junior bobcat]

Fo sho bro

[south flicker]

ama was funny too, all the non-us holder were mad, but ben couldn't make it cause he's in non-us, but made the ama based on us timezone lol

[proper island]

Dont understand why they marketing world wide if its for us only

[void zealot]

ETH knows no borders

[molten isle]

Time tongo dump the rest of these pods. Brb

[gilded viper]

price is dumping

[south flicker]

guess thats the web3 way to make money lo l

im hyped for murakami

[molten isle]

mnlth X is a new watch with hologram feature to project your clone 3D

[worldly frigate]

US is the whole world?

[spiral bronze]

duh

[worldly frigate]

There are 330m people in this world. China, russia,Africa, are all conspiracy theories

God bless 'Merica

[keen burrow]

nice, perfect for non-clone holders

[worldly frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-murica-america-this-is-gif-22051896

[spiral bronze]

they still had the nerve to put 5% royalties after they just scammed everyone

[valid kettle]

😂

[sinful fog]

Hi @hearty raptor @west mesa , really appreciate the help yesterday 🙂 I I got my MNLTH X drop 🙂

[valid kettle]

Rug?

Are we getting rug? Cuz this chat surely a mess

[molten isle]

Mnlth x are nike underwear with qr and nfc capabilities... it send a message to your girl when you need some

[lethal rivet]

Abs NO, We're good 👍

[valid kettle]

It’s a mess here

[worldly frigate]

They already did

[valid kettle]

Lol?

[worldly frigate]

Only MNLTH2 is a rug tho, beside that its fine

[valid kettle]

Everyone fudding here. This is no good

[spring dagger]

would be funny if MNLTH X will be a 15% discount coupon to buy Nike Air Forces

[molten isle]

Wagmi.. we just have to kr the downfall of rtfkt

This can be bigger than Jan 6th!! 🤣🤣

[worldly frigate]

Damn, I would buy 100 MNLTHX

[uneven crag]

so we dont know what mnlthx is yet

[lethal rivet]

We're good bro.

[molten isle]

I ain't buying ish else... if itnaint dropped I won't have it.

[worldly frigate]

Ofc after the box is opened;)

[molten isle]

Mnlth x is the end of the road

🖖🏿

[spring dagger]

Lol i didn't know its a failed lineup from Nike, that's wild

[void zealot]

if only the founders could see it, they're too busy taking our ETH and giving it to Nike 😂

[molten isle]

Actually they are with hookers and strippers right now buying the bar

[rain lava]

@gleaming summit

[spring dagger]

Nike's using the RTFKT consumers to sell their flops to for profit and they say thank you for it 💀

[gleaming summit]

@rain lava

[lethal rivet]

5/12 Everyone fud on Azuki and the Discord, but they are still make it.
This is not a big problem, it just needs some time to solve and show sincerity.

[void zealot]

exactly, forcing us to pay more ETH after we paid thousands on secondary already. A disgrace.

[spring dagger]

Lol fr, you got the privilege to pay Nike money for a shoe they failed to sell to the masses. Exciting!
They see everyone here as extractable liquidity - its a for-profit business after all, at least be honest about it though

[proper island]

Could you explain me why azukis fudding at that time ?

[worldly frigate]

Nike Adapt BB

[lethal rivet]

Z rug problem. It's a long story.

Azuki floor price 24e -> 17e -> 10e -> 8.7e -> 7e

But they made it through

It's not the big deal

[radiant trail]

sure 1 azuki 100k usd now 14k

[worldly frigate]

Azuki owner had a NFT project before and he ditched it so people were saying he rugpulled and made azuki.

[void zealot]

just want to call attention to the fact that the last post in #💕・announcements is this turd of a "innovation drop". Two half assed twitter spaces, a bunch of tweets with prayer emojis and "we'll do better" empty promises, and yet no official statements in the server. No clearer indication of what the team thinks of their community.

[spring dagger]

Innovation is when Nike Adapt reskin

[lethal rivet]

1 BAYC 400k usd now 90k usd.
All the market and eth price are down.

[prisma ledge]

That was actual FUD though. This isn't FUD.

[lethal rivet]

So what is this?

[proper island]

Thankyou for explain rhat

[prisma ledge]

It's been beaten to death for 48 hours now. I'm sure you can scroll up and read some well thought out comments.

[void zealot]

yeah it's righteous anger in here. people got the pichforks out for the team since dec 5

[lethal rivet]

Ayo 🤣

[lethal rivet]

You love RTFKT?

[prisma ledge]

No, I don't. I loved that Nike had entered the NFT space though.

[proper nimbus]

FP for the LE speaks for itself.

[spring dagger]

Bet they waiting for the "0.0001 ETH has been deposited in your account" notification on their phone from doin this shi 💀

[worldly frigate]

Used to love RTFKT until this happened.

[zenith raft]

Everyone is crying. You go a MNLTH 3 as well.

[prisma ledge]

LOL

[void zealot]

stands for Lose your ETH

[zenith raft]

What's in the MNLTH3

Noone knows. Could be epic

[worldly frigate]

Another coupon ofc

[zenith raft]

They won't do that again lol

They learned

[worldly frigate]

Says who? Noone knows right?

[spiral bronze]

they could of jsut airdropped everything that has came out of the MNLTH but the only reason they didnt is so they can add a sense of gambling and having people trading it 24/7 for there royalty fees

[zenith raft]

Exactly

[void zealot]

LOL wut

[molten isle]

Could be shoe polish

[spiral bronze]

Nothing special has came out of a MNLTH

[stone moss]

does anyone know if we mint 1 shoe can we forge 4 shoes with one mint ?

[zenith raft]

This is still by far the best web3 company to innovate...

[worldly frigate]

No just 1

[glossy halo]

Can't verify my new mnlth

[void zealot]

the solution for ripping off people who bought the mystery box...give them another mystery box. Straight scam come on

[worldly frigate]

Okay alt account

[worldly frigate]

?

[molten isle]

I have 3 coupons.. contemplating selling 1 or 2

[spring dagger]

0.002 ETH have been deposited in your account, your service is appreaciated

[stone moss]

SO IF we receive one of the four options being space matter etc ..... do we have to pay for the shoe or just the price to mint and forge ?

[molten isle]

I don't want to help them make another dime tho

[void zealot]

sell on Looks

[worldly frigate]

Pay

[worldly frigate]

If you have Lace Engine space matter cost $1000 and if you dont have Lace Engine it cost $1333

[spring dagger]

you get the privilege of paying less money than everyone else

innovation is when giftcard

[spiral bronze]

no one even wants the shoe let alone pay 100$ cheaper

[void zealot]

facts...look at the fp of the LE

[spiral bronze]

i already paid 1k$+ in royalty fees

so give me my shoes

[spring dagger]

https://twitter.com/RTFKT/status/1519948296172752896 lol

[molten isle]

They may be the first to sale a coupon for 30 times it's value

[spiral bronze]

lying , manipulation , fraud

[molten isle]

That's innovative

[spring dagger]

invention drop is when discount coupon

[molten isle]

Name another who managed to pimpna coupon that way

Nobody.. they are og's and creative

[spiral bronze]

i paid 3.5k$ in royalty fees you guys have profited 3.5k$ , i want my damn shoes

[worldly frigate]

Merging worlds guys. ''US-shipping only''

[void zealot]

the incompetence boggles the mind. They had the M2s trading at multiple thousands of dollars on secondary for eight months. Ample time for them to realize "hey, a $130 coupon isnt going to cut it. Maybe we should take a portion of these millions of dollars in royalties and apply it toward the production budget of the CIRLs so we can give M2 holders the base model free". If they had just managed their money correctly, they would have avoided this fudstorm, avoided the tanking prices across their ecosystem, had a happy community who would likely be ready to mint out the forge on the 12th driving all the prices HIGHER. Like how incompetent can you be? What a lack of vision and common sense.

And that's not even considering the HUGE fumble on selling these M2s worldwide that would redeem a product only available for Americans. OMG 💀

[lethal rivet]

Do the trade on blur !

[minor mural]

As an American who didn’t buy MNLTH for thousands, I’m quite happy and looking forward to the forge

I am biased

[void zealot]

if you REALLY want the shoes then buy an LE right now for less than the discount and a guaranteed pass. Its a no brainer. The market is showing the lack of demand but if you love the shoes then go for it

[uneven crag]

who did monlth x go to ? clone x holders again or people who burned monolth 1

[worldly frigate]

People who held MNLTH 1 or 2 on snapshot time.

[minor mural]

I did buy a Lace Engine recently and looking forward to the mint - but I also wasn’t damaged by the crash in MNLTH price. Sorry for those who were affected

[void zealot]

then you're gucci

[worldly frigate]

I 100% believe there is nothing wrong with the iRL sneaker, it's just the way they did it. They scammed their loyal fanbase/community

[hybrid summit]

If it was a genuine mistake, they would have fixed it. It is deliberate and that is even worse.

[spring dagger]

They'll do some PR speak and let it all die down counting on peoples short attention spans, then pull a similar profit oriented stunt a couple months later. The laughing from the team at the end of the space when addressing those who got swindled by this was pretty telling, the remorse is performative

[queen laurel]

Debating to buy the Nike self lacing sneaker....it reminds me of the Nike Adapt 2.0 which I have a pair

[void zealot]

So easy to fix. Just make the base model free to LE holders. Would calm everything down.

[minor mural]

This is why I’m worried about Animus public sale - way too soon for them to ask for more funds from the community

[worldly frigate]

Imagine if BAYC serum switches to another worthless NFT piece and the founders say ''Yeah those wore airdrops so you cant complain''. Thats not how it works

[spring dagger]

but... le NIKE!

[worldly frigate]

You bought the failed Nike Adapt line? Lol.

[worldly frigate]

It's the same, just buy it

[void zealot]

Animus will reveal to be a coupon for the Monolith Z, and the shell game continues

[tulip sky]

https://twitter.com/baycjoker/status/1600856081571647488?t=YvZ8k65R5ihOXaSwhzxzsw&s=19

[wispy glade]

Hi

[minor mural]

It seems the RTFKT founders are out of touch with their community

[wispy glade]

I want to buy sneakers on public)) what should i do?)

[worldly frigate]

They are not, they just dont care anymore. They want money

[worldly frigate]

Buy Lace Engine, dont public.

[molten isle]

Animus is a coupon for Jurassic Park Blue ray remastered in 8k

[wispy glade]

is there any info about future rewards for move and earn?

[minor mural]

They should have known the pedestal the community place the MNLTH on

[worldly frigate]

This made me laugh irl

[worldly frigate]

No not yet.

[wispy glade]

it costs 0.1 ..the same difference like with or without..isn't it?

[worldly frigate]

They don't care since it was an ''airdrop''.

[worldly frigate]

it cost 0.1 and it gives you 0.1 discount on the sneakers. Also it gives you a 100% guarantee to mint it.

[void zealot]

it will likely dip under .1 again. then its a no brainer if you want the shoe. a guaranteed spot and the baked in .1 discount

not that i think the private sale will mint out

[wispy glade]

the registration will be closed toimorrow morning as i understand for public...and when wiull mint for holders?

[hybrid summit]

You move your money to the founders and they earn more beach houses at the expense of the community

[worldly frigate]

From 12 dec holders can mint, public mint is 14 dec

[queen laurel]

The chip is cool! I am waiting for the Murakami x AF1!

[wispy glade]

and you also already did it?)))

[uneven zealot]

Imagine Animus reveals like pixelmon did 😂

[wispy glade]

so i can buy nft 10-11 of december and then i will be able to mint as a holder 12 dec?

[void zealot]

you can buy right now https://opensea.io/collection/rtfktmonolith?search[sortAscending]=true&search[sortBy]=UNIT_PRICE

put a .09 WETH offer in someone will take it

[worldly frigate]

Imagine how powerful the community would have been if they did not rugpull mnlth2. Damn son, RTFKT would have taken over the world and now they have backstabbed their community for the world.

[sinful fog]

Guys do we know what is inside the MNLTH X drop as yet ?

[void zealot]

short term mindset by the team. tragic

[lethal rivet]

IPhone pro max

[sinful fog]

lol now this is something really made in China 😛 😛

[hybrid summit]

An innovative discount coupon based on Past history

[shadow walrus]

is mnlth x the airdrop that was supposed to be mnlth 3 or is this mnlth 2? too many different mnlths and no announcement

[sinful fog]

as per the spaces yesterday MNLTH X drop is said to tie the whole collection together and also continue the story ,, i guess this is why people are frantic to buy

[hybrid summit]

It was monolith 3 rebranded to monolith x by founders that thought it would fix everything by changing a number to a letter😅

[sinful fog]

MNLTH X is the rebrand for MNLTH 3 ... MNLTH X will continue to lore

so i think we can be same and asume it will be a fun start atleast for me

[west mesa]

MNLTH X is the replacement to the 2 not 3...but it did replace the 3 in the sense of being for the most recent snapshot

[hybrid summit]

Yep and mnlth 2 was supposed to be an invention drop as well, so take it with a grain of salt

[shadow walrus]

so we have to keep holding mnlth x to get mnlth 3?

[west mesa]

there is no MNLTH 3 coming from that snapshot

MNLTH X is the re-birth of the MNLTH

[sinful fog]

i can still argue it still was 😛 it got me here with you guys

[hybrid summit]

Welcome to the circus 🤡 😅

[void zealot]

the only thing that "dropped" was the floor price. of everything.

[livid mirage]

Why is that monolith so cheap?

[sinful fog]

as long as we all make some money 🙂 🙂

[uneven zealot]

Lol

[hybrid summit]

Feels a bit still born at current prices

[molten isle]

@worldly frigate the should call it mnlth 2 - retry ... instead of x or mnlth 2.b

[void zealot]

The MNLTH OOPS

[hybrid summit]

The one guarantee is that the founders of this project definitely will

[west mesa]

by changing the naming convention it's easier to tie into lore

[worldly frigate]

Mnlth - we are worry we gonna fix it. Should be the full name

[sinful fog]

i think with this last drop , they will have a better thinking standpoint and MNLTH X should be fun

[void zealot]

The MNLTH COUPON

[worldly frigate]

And then drop another coupon after 9 months

[livid mirage]

@west mesa is there a place I can read more about how all the drops tie in together?

[worldly frigate]

Winner. I like that one the most

[sinful fog]

anyway its NFT/crypto so we are all here for the game and less for just the prize

[sullen siren]

One thing I’m sure of it’s X is not a coupon

[west mesa]

we are working on adding that to the main website to make it all much more clear.

[void zealot]

thats a lot of trust in a team that just epically fumbled a reveal

[sinful fog]

for some reason i feel the same 😛 😛

[livid mirage]

@west mesa yeah, cause that mnlth at .1 is actually affordable, but idk what it does

[void zealot]

gives you the right to pay .3 for a shoe

[worldly frigate]

Funny how it looks like if mods trade shifts in order not to lose sanity while they are being flamed for the fault of RTFKT owners. They come 1 by 1

[void zealot]

sprinkled in with some ALT accounts lol

[west mesa]

that is the lace engine that gets you guaranteed access to the cryptokicks iRL mint

[livid mirage]

Oh

[hybrid summit]

Or more colloquially known as the worthless discount coupon

[livid mirage]

I'll see if I hit the premint first

[west mesa]

MNLTH 1 contains a dunk, evo vial and lace engine. MNLTH X is the replacement for the 2 that has unknown contents

[sinful fog]

working 24/7 ??? i mean the mods are human too right

[void zealot]

The MNLTH 0 has a nice ring to it. Zero as in its worth.

[livid mirage]

I got my .swoosh I'd today too

[void zealot]

The mods are taking ALL the venom for a morally bankrupt team, I'll give them that

[worldly frigate]

I dont hate on mods. I respect them. Not the founders tho

[livid mirage]

And can't wait to see what the ledger collab will be

[worldly frigate]

Another coupon prob

Coupon has a nice ring to it

[vocal dust]

this should also be tweeted imo

[sinful fog]

oh yes. Mods have been facing this for nothing ... Yes the founders/team goofed up big time... but i think we can only get better from here

or second option sell and move on if you fell the project is done for

[south flicker]

buy the art, not the hype bois

[west mesa]

valid input

[void zealot]

nah the founders are gonna have to hear about this for days and weeks. this was an epic fail.

people losing thousands thanks to incompetence dont move on easy

[molten isle]

Nah. If the spaces was an indicator it won't get better. They aren't listening to the community they listen tona few whales

[sinful fog]

Oh yes and i personally feel the team deserve this ... and sure there was a intern that asked what about the rest of the world ... but the team said Make America great again 😛 😛 (joke )

[west mesa]

egg claim? It's still open yes

[quartz canyon]

anyone interested in rugx.eth after recent events 😏

[livid mirage]

@void zealot what was a fail?

[void zealot]

man you just coming in late to this? 😂

[livid mirage]

@void zealot yeah, sorry

[void zealot]

The MNLTH 2 - LE reveal was a flop, and holders got rugged

[livid mirage]

I couldn't afford any of the nfts before

[sinful fog]

yes and now we move on with MNLTH X

[void zealot]

traded for thousands on secondary for eight months, team banked over two million in royalties...then force revealed the M2s to be a $130 coupon for the upcoming forge of the CIRL sneakers

but hey the Lace Engines are a great price right now if you want to forge

[quartz canyon]

clonex is rugx now. im selling rugx.eth dm if interested 😏

[livid mirage]

@void zealot wow, so they never tell you what you're buying before reveal?

Like no hint

[void zealot]

The M2 was a "mystery box" that was airdropped to Clone Holders. After the M1 opened to reveal some vials and kicks, and was trading for 10 ETH at one point, the expectation was that the M2s would be extremely valuable, and traded for multiple ETH on secondary until December 5th, when they were forced open to become Lace Engines, a $130 coupon for a $450 mint

[quartz canyon]

they hyped up speculation and fueled the hype to continue to get money from victims of this cash grab scam coupon

[void zealot]

yes traded for 8 months and generated over two million dollars in royalties for the team

[livid mirage]

Damn

We just went through crap like that with proof of cncpts

[somber hemlock]

2 million in royalties?

[junior bobcat]

Spaces got me more disappointed than the lace discount

[terse fable]

so far my $10k investment has gotten me a coupon of $130 off a shoe that cost .34-.76 ETH 🥹

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

[junior bobcat]

🤝

[terse fable]

Follow me for financial advice 🫠

[molten isle]

Invest your money better the next time

[covert fox]

Genius

[terse fable]

You don’t say

[terse fable]

This guy don’t miss!

[elder wraith]

Smart step

[molten isle]

🤝

[proper island]

Guys space drip forging when ?

[junior bobcat]

Any moderator here? When is the royalty going to be 5% on rest of the stufff? Need to sell some stuff

[molten isle]

Never

[blazing cedar]

MNLTH X is filled with ETH pass it on

[junior bobcat]

Really? They said on Twitter

But oh they also said the spaces was going to be good

Ok 👍

[molten isle]

Only for MNLTHx from what I understand