#How not to suck at it ?

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undone swan
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Hello everyone,

the title speak for itself don't you think ? No, alright, alright, alright 😆

As a beginner,

How can I play efficiently, what things should I do to get good, quick.

Should I Play through the campaign as a survivant, then do it all over again as a veteran, then again and again ?

Within each difficulty level, should I get 100% completion to the curent harvest before doing the next one ?

Should I play solo until I got good ?

What are the most importants things to do when playing with others, beside not being rude ?

What not to do, beside being ... rude (catching you off guard with that one :p)

Anything you can think of that would makes my life, and yours, easier:)

Keep in mind that many of us, myself included, do not speak english but would like to play co-op anyway 😉

See you all at the line

valid dune
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Biggest pieces of advice would be find guns that suit your play style and stick with them, learn choke points and pay attention to spawns (there are a few ways they can be randomized however once you learn the patterns you’ll know what to expect) learn to shoot out legs if they travel too fast for you. And if you’re in a squad make call outs

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IMO first two difficulties were far too easy for me so I stuck in masters until I could carry squads consistently and then made the jump to nm, then horror

neat quiver
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Here's my tips:

  1. Definitely play through on Survivor to learn the levels and practice your shooting etc.
  2. Solo or not doesn't matter, but play with people who aren't steamrolling and beating it FOR you
  3. As you go through the levels, try and get a feel for when enemy spawns happen. Look where they come from and keep a mental note. It's randomized from different locations but generally same areas.
  4. Buy items and use them. Always have a health on you and some kind of bomb for emergencies
  5. Use your wrist devices and buy charges for them
  6. Movement is 75% of the game (exaggeration). Learn to run away when you need to. Never stand still unless you have no choice. Learn to kite (running around getting them to follow you)
  7. Pick up guns in key card rooms to use or sell to accumulate money
  8. Practice dual wielding when you can. 2 pistols or 2 SMGs are easiest to start with.
  9. Choke points as Unorthodox mentioned. Funnel enemies into a tight entry so they have to come in a narrow spot you can shoot at easily.
  10. Always kill the normal zombies and specials before you kill the Smasher. They can overwhelm you but he's slow
  11. Learn to solo the Smasher when everyone is dead. This will happen all the time.
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  1. Increase in difficulty when you can beat the crap out of the current one without struggling. Don't rush it. Walk before you run is the principle I espouse.
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  1. Do not ever ever accept a gifted gun. Earn your way through or you'll be at a huge disadvantage when it comes to actual skill.
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  1. Bring guns with several different ammo types so you don't run out quickly. They share the ammo pool if they are the same caliber, so use 3 or 4 different calibers
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  1. Use advanced reloading and practice it in the gun room if needed. Get as fast as you until it's second nature. Also practice throwing bombs when you can and get as accurate as possible.
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  1. You can bring items with you even if you don't have space. Just carry them and go back to get more. Then put them down before a fight and pick em up after.
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  1. Don't run in too far when enemies spawn. Pull back so you don't get surrounded. Keep an eye behind you during fights so you don't get snuck up on
still musk
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  1. Stay out of the line of fire, always try to think about where your teammates are firing from, do NOT stand in the middle of chokepoints, or anywhere where you would get in the way of shots. This is NOT a single player game unless you're running with 3 bots, your body will block shots from actually hitting the enemy.

  2. Unless it's speedrunner mutation, the objective is to get to the end. Do not kill everything immediately on higher difficulties, it is better to leg them. Enemies spawn after enough enemies die, crippled enemies are much less threatening than newly spawned normal enemies or specials.

  3. Do not stand there and get hit, you have a gun, nobody except the gunner on the enemy side has a gun, pretend that the enemy is just a bunch of people who want to punch you while you have a gun in real life, and that you cannot fire fast enough to kill all of them because they all have armor or that you are using a bb gun or something.

  4. Do not rush ahead, pay attention to where your squad is.

  5. Do not waste items, you can just throw them ahead.

  6. Do not spam voicechat about your day or random nonsense unless people are actually interested, we are not your babysitter or psychologist or replacement for ritalin.

  7. Try to shoot the eater in the legs if someone is near it, so they can get far away enough from you stunning it before killing it.

  8. The brute takes more damage from being shot in the arms and legs than the chest.

  9. Close doors behind you.

  10. If running with bots, try to mostly rely on 1-2 guns. The bots will replenish your ammo up to a certain amount, so your full guns can be used in case of emergency.

  11. Never shoot sprawl pods or barrels unless you are going to kill/stun a zombie with it, use common sense.

  12. Don't randomly use bombs if you can already do the task with ammo and vice versa depending on how low you are on either.

neat quiver
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Yeah I agree - don't stand in the fucking doorway lol. Gotta have that situational awareness

inner spire
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Most important: have fun! For me that means coop most of the time. Don’t worry about speaking English or not. Just try to kill snowies and help your teammates.

undone swan
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That's really helpful, thanks everybody, from time to time I'll get back to that list and keep playing and having fun 🙂

undone swan
neat quiver
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It's a device to kill things. You turn your hand sideways to activate it then each one has a way to fire it

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The rockets you get early on you hold down the grip button until its charged then release it

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Shockwave you grip and punch, sawblades are same as the rockets

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At each saferoom you can buy a "Device Charge" which is ammo for the wrist device.

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You can put one on each hand, either the same or mix and match

undone swan
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OK need to try this, does it work at the shooting range ?

neat quiver
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the rockets dont

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shockwave and blades do

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you could go into an easy level to mess around with it

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buy a charge at the start and youll have 2 to practice with

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when you die they all come back, might be changed next update

undone swan
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Okay, biw about the weapon, Don't remember the exact name but each run I take with me the desert Eagle, the uzi, the machine and the pump action shotgun(it sucks badly) any though? does the "realistic" reloading makes a real difference ? If it's slower but hit harder than the fast reloading, the mean dps might be about the same ( f***k my english is falling apart...😅)

neat quiver
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50% more damage so def worth it

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If you get fast enough it’s equally quick imo

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The weapons don’t matter themselves as long as you can use them effectively

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Each one has pros and cons

still musk
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tommygun pros: straight line once you downgrade the barrel and downgrade the grip
downsides: it's basically a worse smg 😂

mild spruce
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Tommy gun is actually pretty straight fully upgraded with just a base grip. Has a small recoil but straightens out quick due to slower fire rate.

undone swan
neat quiver
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what up

undone swan
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Nothing man, I was just showing what I was talking about to Max. BTW I'm doing what you told me, I weapon of each kind of ammo, blue uzi, yellow machine-gun, green arizona(meeeh), red pump action shotgun, that shot gun is garbage

neat quiver
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oh ok

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awesome hows it going

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the pump does the most damage in the game 🙂 if you get good with it its nuts

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artem posted some videos in #atf-media of pump onlly runs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9a7xl8tM5I

YouTube
art_em
ATF Horrors: a proper Skid Row dual-shotgun solo

A rather relaxed run! It's been a while since I played ATF, so I've chosen the easiest map, but decided to add some fun to it: pump shotguns only!

My previous shotgun solo dates back to April 2022 (https://youtu.be/A-ipMMyTRPg). Back then, Nightmare was the highest difficulty, but there were no warheads, saw blades, and chipsets; the shotgun it...

▶ Play video
undone swan
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He's kicking ass, it's brutal, he's doing a lot of backtracking to carry stuffs with him

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But ... we do not have the same shotgun at all 🤣

neat quiver
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lol

undone swan
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Also, he is doing fast teload or not ?

neat quiver
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nope

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hes fast as fuck

undone swan
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Indeed

neat quiver
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he made that for me lol

undone swan
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I'm going right now to the shooting range thanks

neat quiver
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haha

neat quiver
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i'm off til tuesday if you wanna run sometime

undone swan
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Well why not, it could be nice for me, for you not so much. I'm doing all the harvest in survivor to get used to manual reloading

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Give me some time to practice:)

neat quiver
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its fun for me too

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i can just take simple guns and we can be at the same level

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we could do veteran as well, it's not a HUGE jump up

undone swan
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Lol I just go my ass kicked in the boss fight at the movie theater, but yeah who cares. we'll play together, just remember me, what's your timezone?

neat quiver
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Eastern

odd nexus
undone swan
# neat quiver Eastern

I'm getting used to manual reloading, its fine unless I have to run around while reloading , just did Chinatown, veteran, pump action shotgun only. I will be playing tonight I think, maybe will meet there

undone swan
odd nexus
# undone swan What are your weapons of choice ?

LMG or MT47 on the right hand as my main weapon.

Tommy gun on the right holster which I use to quickly switch if my LMG is out of ammo and I can't reload in time

Left hand is auto Shotgun so I can let go of my main right hand weapon's grip to blast away in emergencies

Left holster is a revolver for boom boom

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So far I've been preferring the Mt47. Def less accurate than LMG at long range, more recoil and less fire rate but more damage per shot.

I've been finding that I am killing more by doing that over the LMG tbh

undone swan
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Too many weapon to handle for me, if I'm playing with fast reload it's fine but with manual reload ... they all have to be reloaded in a different way, in fight when the heat comes...I'm just gonna stick to the shotgun for now

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Is Auto shotgun a different weapon or just a moded shotgun ?

odd nexus
odd nexus
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Honestly most guns reload like that with the exception of like the LMG (mag on the left side) or LMG with drum (must eject to open the hatch then eject to drop the mag then close the latch after putting in a new drum)

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Also a tip @undone swan for the Service Pistols, Falcon, Tommy Gun, and SMG if you need to chamber a round, you can press the eject button again.

However, be careful cause if you don't need to chamber a round at that time, you'll eject the magazine. Same thing goes for if you accidentally press it twice then you'll chamber a round then eject it. So you can do it.... But it can be annoying if you mess up

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For those weapons, I will often just always empty my clip so I know I need to chamber a round and I can press it) whereas for other weapons like my Mt47, I will always try to preemptively reload even in the heat of battle so I don't have to do that later

summer egret
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@odd nexus @undone swan Try to not hit your controler together so 😅😝🤣

odd nexus
summer egret
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A joke 😅🤣

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the only game where I happen to hit the 2 controllers together is in atf 🤣

odd nexus
summer egret
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these controllers are solid anyway 🤣 they've been through a lot, I'm surprised that they still resist

odd nexus
lucid coral
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One more question from a new player:

How do you use consumable or throwable when you have a gun in your hands and your belt is full?

Do you drop your gun to the ground, pick up the item in your wrist, use it and then pick up your gun again?

Thanks!

neat quiver
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If you use toggle grip it doesn’t drop your gun

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The gun disappears and item takes its place, then it comes back after you use the item

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So you can do 4 guns with you and an item in each wrist then one in each hand

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Makes moving the items around really easy

odd nexus
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Yeah unfortunately, there is really no point is using the hold grip. Toggle is superior.

I personally prefer hold and find myself still holding grip tbh out of habit.... But toggle is the most convenient

neat quiver
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hold is more realistic which i can appreciate

odd nexus
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Same but huge disadvantage when playing

lucid coral
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Thank you so much for the info! I will switch to toggle then 🙂

And with 4 weapons, let's say you want to use both hand on your main hand weapon, is the weapon in your non dominant hand disappears when you hold your main weapon with both hands?

neat quiver
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yup

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it's very unrealistic lol

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lmk if you wanna run this evening

lucid coral
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Will do, thank you 🙂 I will probably go back in game after eating something, so maybe in about 30 mins!

I'll send you a friend invite ingame 👍

neat quiver
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cool thats perfect

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make sure to use my id# if you didnt know that

lucid coral
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@neat quiver omw ingame right now!

neat quiver
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ah my friends just got on

lucid coral
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no worries 🙂 We'll try to hit you up next time I am on! 🙂

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I'll get better meanwhile haha

neat quiver
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id promised to help 😣

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ok
look fwd to it

undone swan
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@hoary garnet hi, what mod do you have on your shotguns ?

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Chips, etc ?

neat quiver
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in his video I think he had instakill chip and blue barrel?

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let me pull it up

undone swan
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Ok, I need to do some mutator to get chips

neat quiver
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yeah

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you can also do anything else on it though

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it'll still be strong as hell

hoary garnet
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Yep, instakill chip. I don't recommend any higher-tier barrel than blue, they are slow and have huge recoil.

undone swan
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Even with the blue barrel I'm still to slow, shotgun + Lmg + arizona and I can't do China master on my own

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Someone yesterday gave me a nice shotgun with instakill on

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What's does the instakill do ?

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My weapons are good enough to do a run in master I think. My skills aren't yet

neat quiver
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has a chance to instantly kill anything it shoots @undone swan

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I think for pump its between 6-8 %

low oak
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@undone swan with the sawblades I try to activate them low so you get the most damage. Put your hand down and shoot,they fly up and bounce so I find the lower they are activated the better.

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I always take an SMG. In a pinch and your out of ammo,it uses a different one. On relay ( who h I used to run at least 6x a day) 2smg's can bring smasher to his knees fast. Watch your ammo with the SMG. They are ammo sucking machines😂

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@undone swan I agree with you about the pump shotgun,never liked it.

undone swan
neat quiver
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I just did a skid and a China nightmare with the pump and no bombs 🙂

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Was very hard cuz I am new with the gun

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If you can get good with it the pump is super effective

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Also keep in mind the blue ammo guns do something like 20% less damage to specials but 20% more to regulars

low oak
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@undone swan I have tried to like it but I don't. I can't grip it to pump it ,it just dosent feel natural

undone swan
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@hoary garnet made a video, it's somewhere

neat quiver
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I can do that sometimes but holding on is more reliable for me

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maybe i'll work on it when I revisit the gun 🙂

undone swan
neat quiver
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lol no i bring it with me still

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i like it more than the auto

viscid nexus
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Spend time with your guns in the amo room, target practicing. This helps you to evaluate your weaknesses in how you shoot, how you can improve how you hold your guns, and which guns feel best for you.

tawny pecan
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I wanted to ask in here,, most of you run Slide movement? Had the pleasure of running with some pros, BroAshleyshere, phteven, and Only Wei. I consider them pros as they made the Horror run seem easy. From what I gathered in the run they don’t use teleport, so something to consider I guess is getting used to running that over teleport.

neat quiver
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I just switched like I mentioned but both are totally viable

undone swan
neat quiver
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Yeah as of a week ago

undone swan
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What happend ?

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To please your audience, speedruning purposes or something else?

neat quiver
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Lol

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Just to play better

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Big disadvantage overall with tp other than speed