#Dancing Line - How hard are levels?
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Above listing is purely opionated and based on what I feel
Please feel free to debate it out regarding placements of specific levels, if need be
Levels are sorted out based on difficulty on top to bottom
If levels share same points of difficulty, then the levels are sorted in ascending fashion for difficulty (easiest level first)
Solid list
Solid List. But the rate of difficulty rise in easy levels is kinda high imo
Could you pick example and elaborate?
Like, for me, I certainly felt... for example The Spring and The Time, for instance...
Spring is so easy, while Time is definitely harder than Spring by a long margin
So, 1.2 and 2.7 rating felt justified to me
Time is definitely more than 2 times harder than Spring
Gap between Spring to Savanna is the same as Savanna to Chinese Garden
This can be a live list.
If you do manage to convince me, we'll make the changes
The difficulty gap is inconsistent
Atleast imo
Makes sense to me?
If Savanna is 4 times harder than Spring, then definitely I can say TCG is 4 times harder than Savanna
And we can have the rest of the levels taking it's places between the scores
The fact that it looks inconsistent speaks for itself, if you ask me
Personally the gap between CG to Savanna is extremely high when you consider the lake part in CG
Yeah? It's rated 4 times harder
In fact, if not the lake part... TCG might have lost some points
Possibly levels like TST, TIJ, TFO would have done better
Personally felt more than that.But that's just my opinion
I mean, not to forget, Savanna also has its own hard points in the level
For instance, The Taurus and TAP got so much scores just because of a singular 10% stretch
Also I have to disagree on Journey being harder than storm
Yes, those stuffs are open to debate as scales are marginal
Storm lost a bit of scores just because the taps are repetitive and there's almost nothing deceptive in the entire level
Storm has lots of quick taps and journey is slower paced
Journey, I personally felt has a small edge... even though slow paced... just because of camera angle
Storm is like chaos in a sense that it's more forgiving
Agreed. But one disadvantage of both levels is that it's too repetitive
Hence the underwhelming scores to some extent
But repetitive quick taps can be difficult for some players
If not the camera angle trick at 80% in The Journey... I might have agreed with you that Storm is harder
Agreed too.
But I feel The Storm does get gradually harder
It gives you a space to get used to the tapping style
Logarithmic scale 
^^^
To some extent, yes
But once you know it's coming it's not that difficult.
Ngl, it's slightly off sync at that part too
And unconventional
Personally, that feels harder as the camera rotates and you have to tap off sync
But yes, debatable stuff
Get me convinced, I'll make the change
Personally once you completed a level like journey it's easy to not fail at it again. Can't be said for storm because of the quick tap. When you tap quickly it's easy to mistap and fail
I can consider the fact that The Storm has some fail points in the level in the recent updates
Plus storm also has a tricky camera angle section
Like... some common spots are not tappable
It does, but the taps aren't hard
But yes, I think I can agree.
Maybe both the levels must share same scores maybe?
But definitely nothing seems conclusive to me to regard both the levels by distinct scores
Storm also have the problem with path not being very clear at the beginning when the small pyramids form
It can confuse players at the start
In that scenario, even Journey has a sudden change in landscapes in couple of sections, which is more trickier to handle
Like, I personally felt the 50% section to be tricky too... when the sand dunes lessen to provide you a path
Both levels have their own strengths and flaws
Or maybe I feel even justified with the current placement itself, debatable
Again personally storm is much harder than journey but that's just my opinion
But other than that your list is pretty solid š
Okay, I'll definitely consider this.
Do you feel any other levels?
Like, lemme have some second thoughts and maybe even others commenting about it
Ahh, is there a way to pin that message?
Or I may just repost again here, since it went too up
It's a forum anyways with optional access
Let me play both the levels again and maybe try making a pass/fail analysis without bias
cg? Me?
Okno
Okay, LavaLamp
I think I stand strong that Journey is "marginally" harder, but I also believe scores may be equal for both... just because there's a stupid bug added to Storm now that derails you without considering taps in some locations
And sometimes I even feel Journey is harder than West, that's sharing scores too, so that definitely goes lower now
Above is the updated list
Thanks for the second eye!
XD... CG is extremely high š¤£
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Space is much harder than what I have rated
Especially the hidden gems at 50% is damn tricky
The Space has been updated from 6.2 to 7.5
The taps aren't kind too, and some gems are harder
I think the placement is justified
I wish I can reduce scores further for The Spring lol
I think the difficulty to get the last 2 gems is the "only" defend I have
Just due to that fog
Otherwise, this level is a 0.1 for me
1.2 is about right and plays fair for rest of the levels
Lol
I mean, that's what LavaLamp said lol
I mean ye
despacito is easy
Ah, it definitely is
In my opinion, TLoA is very very easy, but everyone will call me a madmanš
Like, I can open challenge you that I can beat it on first try, if not phone lag
I took some consideration for all kinds of players while making the list
yeah
It is tru btw, its as hard as the piano fot me
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I just played romance/video game/indian journey for the first time and had a fresh look on them, indian journey was so easy lol
No guide lines
Romance was so much harder than indian journey which took me less than 15 mins to perfect :)
Make sure you play The Indian Journey with ultra quality and let me know lol
Yes
It was just feel the rhythm for me
And i really couldn't handle romance
The Romance is difficult, but I still think it is easier than TIJ, just because you have room to react to the taps
TIJ, you're legit blindfolded in the last 10%
But keep in mind i dont know guide line persepctive cuz i never use it
So i was actually more blindfolded in romance
Lol, I've never used guidelines ever in my life. That's for the weak souls
Hope you follow the No Gem Challenges forum as well
Just my opinion, i finished perfectly tij in 15 mins on ultra and never seen the level before, romance took me an hour
I agree that Romance is hard in one particular place at 70% stage where the taps doesn't make any sense with the path
What was hard for me in tij is when i revived after 1st crown, the level was completely out of sync but last part did 1st try
But other than that, the level isn't quite that issue
Oh wait, you need to complete them perfectly btw
I did it perfectly
Then why worry the sync issue
When i learn the level i revive
Oh, okay
The above difficulty is primarily marked on how easily you can get away with the level perfectly
So the learning part was "difficult" due to bug revive sync
Makes sense
For the first time tryers, we need to make a different list for difficulty altogether
Yeah, then i would still say romance is much harder for perfect and no guide lines
This one's just a collective abstract opinion
Harder than TIJ?
It's debatable
@cold kernel just tried it again, i died once on the lighthouse and on the cave
But last part was easy for me
Personally, I also find the 60% city part slightly difficult
I guess everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses
I completely sucked in romance
Maybe try playing it multiple times.
Basically convince me why you feel so that TR is harder than TIJ
That's true.
TR might be easier to finish once you learn it simillar to racing, but its hard at the beginning
Perhaps. But only thing I can say hard is the 60-70 part where it is crazy
Dancing Line levels - rated in terms of difficulty (out of 10)
This is a live list. Convince me with your points of argument and I shall update the list
The Spring - 0.6
The Time - 2.7
The Piano - 3.2
The Spring Lullaby - 3.4
The Beach - Dance Remix - 4.3
Faded - Easy Mode - 4.7
The Ocean - 5.0
The Winter - 5.1
The Savanna - 5.2
Dream Of Sky - 5.5
Dream Of Sky - Chamber Remix - 5.5
The Storm - Blues Remix - 5.6
The Hip Hop Evolution - 5.8
The Ugly Duckling - 5.9
The West - 6.0
The Storm - 6.1
The Journey - 6.1
The Halloween Puzzle - 6.2
The Valentines - 6.2
The Easter - 6.3
The Plains - 6.3
The Earth - 6.4
The Halloween - 6.4
The Plains - Reggae Remix - 6.5
The Desert - 6.5
The Earth - Color Remix - 6.6
The Cathedral - Rock Remix - 6.6
The Exodus - 6.6
The Loong - 6.7
The Mountains - 6.8
The Autumn - 6.9
The Wizard of Oz - 6.9
The Alone - Alan Walker - 7.0
The Maze - 7.0
The Christmas Eve - 7.1
The End - Theo5970 - 7.2
The Alley - 7.2
The Christmas Party - 7.3
The Video Game - 7.3
The Winter - House Remix - 7.5
The Space - 7.7
The Faded - Alan Walker - 7.8
The Football - 7.9
The War - 8.0
The Third Anniversary - 8.0
The Samurai - 8.1
The Basketball - 8.2
All About Us - 8.2
The Chaos - 8.3
The Crystal - 8.4
The Taurus - 8.5
The Romance - 8.5
The Amusement Park - 8.6
The Cathedral - 8.7
The Despacito - 8.7
The Indian Journey - 8.8
The Sailor's Tale - 8.9
The Faded Original - 9.0
The Chinese Garden - 9.2
The Spring Festival - 9.3
The Racing - 9.5
The Legend of Assassin - 9.5
The cathedral is like 5-7?
Remix
THE RACING IS HARDER THAN THE LEGEND OF ASSASIN BRUH
From normal player's perspective racing is obviously the hardest level (unless played with guidelines ofc)
I feel like some people here beat those levels so long ago that they forget how hard is to learn some levels
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thereās no way the storm is easier than the desert
How about The Faded - Easy and The Spring
The Spring Lullaby 3.4???
Bro its 1.2
(Also are you basing these on their original state or the nerfed modern versions?)
The nerfed modern version
Hence why Piano lost scores like a lot
I don't think Desert is easy to pick for beginners, especially with sharp transitions between day and night and the mid 40% part
As far as Storm is concerned, it's basically just 1 set of 7-tap rhythm repeated like for 60% of the level entirely
So, that was the intuition
Aren't they scored already?
I'd disagree slightly
Probably will be inclined to put both in the same brackets because Racing does not have sharper hitboxes at all (it is just that one cannot see while they are playing the level)
And when you tally it up with the dynamics of TLoA offers, I definitely think it puts a good fight with TR and probably even does slightly harder
Also nope!
I hope you've been following the No Gem Challenges thread too.
I've basically studied the levels in intricate details and came up with that list
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