Tactile DCS (KEYBOARDS) | Tactical DCS | Page 1

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:25 AM

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Place for us to discuss the wonderful world of mech keebs!

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@surreal crow

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:25 AM

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Sweet

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:25 AM

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I did a discord thing, yaay!!

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:26 AM

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👏

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Better than to clutter up the general chat

quartz meteor Jan 18, 2023, 9:27 AM

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viral bramble I did a discord thing, yaay!!

We knew you had it in you. 🙂

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:27 AM

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Would some thing like the Planck have 2 fn keys so that the top row would be numbers and f-row?

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:28 AM

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https://olkb.com/collections/preonic here's a 60% planck

OLKB

The Preonic Keyboard

All EOTW Hi-Pro

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:28 AM

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surreal crow Would some thing like the Planck have 2 fn keys so that the top row would be num...

well, you can program it however you want! something like that's probably a good idea though, for 40% you'd probably need 2 layer keys

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:28 AM

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viral bramble https://olkb.com/collections/preonic here's a 60% planck

Nice but it’s all sold out

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:29 AM

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I'm sure you can find somewhere where it isn't (probably)

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:29 AM

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Allegedly

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I’ve been wanting to try out gasket mounts

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Because top mount feels stiff and has inconsistent sound across the board

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:31 AM

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r/olkb is also a good place for these types of keebs

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:32 AM

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I’d prefer to build it myself

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Is gasket popular in ortho’s?

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:33 AM

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it certainly exists, I've definitely seen a number of builds (I haven't built one myself because, ew, why'd you have a case)

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:36 AM

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I don’t think I type right to fully use an ortho

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:37 AM

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it does take a bit of getting used to, you are correct, but once you do, you can move between ortho, column staggered and row staggered pretty much seamlessly

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:38 AM

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I’m actually also interested in buying kbdfans d84

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:39 AM

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it does look nice

wise lintel Jan 18, 2023, 9:40 AM

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Current keyboard

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:41 AM

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Is that rubber dome?

wise lintel Jan 18, 2023, 9:41 AM

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?

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:41 AM

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not bad! looks quite membraney to me though

wise lintel Jan 18, 2023, 9:41 AM

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It’s not custom

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:41 AM

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wise lintel It’s not custom

hence the MSI logo

wise lintel Jan 18, 2023, 9:42 AM

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MSI vigor gk30

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viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:43 AM

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that sounds like a weird halfway point between membrane and a brown ig

wise lintel Jan 18, 2023, 9:44 AM

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I think it’s like a mechmenbrane from what I could find

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I like it tho

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Nice and clivky and sounds nice

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Also came with pc

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:47 AM

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I found this ortho board

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@viral bramble

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For diy

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Your verdict?

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:47 AM

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looks about 75-80% to me

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:48 AM

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surreal crow Your verdict?

looks very nice, it's kinda a split design too

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:48 AM

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Yes it’s 75% ortho, aluminium case

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I might buy this maybe next month but I also want a the Witcher 3 gwent set

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The accompanying pcb is qmk compatible for the case I just showed you

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:51 AM

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yeah, imo it's not worth getting (at least a smaller board) that isn't qmk compatible

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 9:57 AM

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viral bramble yeah, imo it's not worth getting (at least a smaller board) that isn't qmk compa...

Why not it’s looks great

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Why are you against qmk suddenly

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 9:59 AM

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no, for small boards imo you have to have qmk

surreal crow Jan 18, 2023, 10:07 AM

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For me it’s no qmk no buy

viral bramble Jan 18, 2023, 10:10 AM

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agreed

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Opinion on Alice layout

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@viral bramble

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Looks ergonomic

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:03 AM

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surreal crow Opinion on Alice layout

significantly better than a standard one, definitely, but lack of thumb keys would kill me

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:12 AM

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Because when typing at work (I type a lot for work)

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My left wrist hurts a bit from the twisting motion

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For reference my keeb I use for work

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:13 AM

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yeah, probably go for alice or completely split (honestly I don't see the benefit of alice over just completely split)

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:14 AM

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Full factor keyboard best keyboard

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:14 AM

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they're best for having lots of keys, I think that's about all they're best at...

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:27 AM

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wise lintel Full factor keyboard best keyboard

Unfortunately it’s with my deepest regrets that I have to humbly disagree

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:29 AM

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viral bramble yeah, probably go for alice or completely split (honestly I don't see the benefi...

I prefer to start with a non ortho split

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Since the case that I found is not far enough apart

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Hence Alice

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:31 AM

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That's horrible

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:32 AM

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surreal crow I prefer to start with a non ortho split

yeah, I mean split case though, ortho doesn't do too much for ergonomics, I kinda went all in but ortho itself doesn't have a huge benefit

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:33 AM

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viral bramble yeah, I mean split case though, ortho doesn't do too much for ergonomics, I kind...

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Kinda thinking about this

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Use that cursed keyboard that is two mouses

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:34 AM

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wise lintel Use that cursed keyboard that is two mouses

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:34 AM

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I would suggest something like this: https://keeb.io/collections/sinc, I know it's 75% but you have much more flexibility with a split board rather than just a split layout on a fixed board

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Worse then that

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 AM

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surreal crow

Imagine touch typing pm that

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 AM

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surreal crow

good lord.

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 AM

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viral bramble I would suggest something like this: https://keeb.io/collections/sinc, I know it...

I prefer stuff that is in stock, no gb’s either

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:36 AM

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yeah, that was more an example to get my point across, not that specific one, was just one of the first options in google

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:37 AM

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Just search orbitouch on google

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:38 AM

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just no. (unless you have to, then it's fine)

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:38 AM

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It's a good idea and I can see it being useful for people with disabilities mental and physical limited arm movement etc

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:38 AM

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viral bramble yeah, that was more an example to get my point across, not that specific one, wa...

Oh right yea, but tomorrow is also payday so I might get the keychron q10

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:39 AM

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And decently executed

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:39 AM

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Double gasket

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Although I don’t really like keychron’s assortment of switches

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I already know what switches I want

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:40 AM

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Membrane obviously

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:40 AM

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fair enough ig

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:40 AM

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wise lintel Membrane obviously

troll_smile

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:40 AM

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wise lintel Membrane obviously

I refer you to the name of the thread...

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 11:41 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/go-away-tossing-kicked-out-gif-20991890

Tenor

quartz meteor Jan 23, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Now a good time for me to rename this to "Custom Squishy Keyboards"?

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Yes

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Do it

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:42 AM

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surreal crow https://tenor.com/view/go-away-tossing-kicked-out-gif-20991890

CALLSIGN THROWER

quartz meteor Jan 23, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Nah. ;P

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 11:42 AM

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good luck building a custom membrane board though...

wise lintel Jan 23, 2023, 11:42 AM

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I was joking

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:01 PM

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viral bramble good luck building a custom membrane board though...

I heard laser optical is still somewhat popular

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Or some particular rubber domes?

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:10 PM

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quartz meteor Now a good time for me to rename this to "Custom Squishy Keyboards"?

Unfortunately it’s with my deepest regrets that I have to humbly disagree

quartz meteor Jan 23, 2023, 12:11 PM

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surreal crow Unfortunately it’s with my deepest regrets that I have to humbly disagree

Have lunch at your desk often enough and all mechanical keyboards become squishy.

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Fortunately we have a clean desk policy

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And I bring my own keyboard, they cleaned regularly

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Everyone just brings their own office issued 60% wireless

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Sounds like Pyles needs kailh switches, they’re dust and smoodge proof right @viral bramble

quartz meteor Jan 23, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Nah.

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I'm a software engineer - I know better than to blame my tools. 😛

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:17 PM

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quartz meteor I'm a software engineer - I know better than to blame my tools. 😛

Ah neat, interim IT professional here

quartz meteor Jan 23, 2023, 12:18 PM

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surreal crow Ah neat, interim IT professional here

I'm 110% mechanical at home, but I'm not bringing my stuff to work.

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:19 PM

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surreal crow Sounds like Pyles needs kailh switches, they’re dust and smoodge proof right <@2...

well, kailh box switches, I am a huge fan of (some) of them

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:20 PM

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viral bramble well, kailh box switches, I am a huge fan of (some) of them

I got the jades and brown Solent’s

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Silents

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:21 PM

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yeah, the silent switches are really nice, haven't used the jades (not a huge fan of clicky), but I also really like the burnt oranges for a heavier switch

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:39 PM

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viral bramble yeah, the silent switches are really nice, haven't used the jades (not a huge fa...

For an Alice layout, do I need special caps? Or will any ol’ set do?

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I will get the barebones kit of the keychron q10

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The switches I wanted are sold out :(

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:46 PM

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surreal crow For an Alice layout, do I need special caps? Or will any ol’ set do?

🤷 I've never built one

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:46 PM

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viral bramble 🤷 I've never built one

Looks like any set will do

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:47 PM

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proably, spacebar might be different but honestly idk what comes in a standard keycap set

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:51 PM

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viral bramble proably, spacebar might be different but honestly idk what comes in a standard k...

A keychron set said it’s compatible with the q10

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The knob is nice to have

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Also for my job is also very nice to keep the F row

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:52 PM

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ig it probably is then!

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:52 PM

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This will be my dedicated work keeb

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Unless I really love it l, might use at home

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I got a kbdfans tofu84 there

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:52 PM

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surreal crow Also for my job is also very nice to keep the F row

I'm too deep down the rabbit hole to even think about f keys

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:53 PM

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viral bramble I'm too deep down the rabbit hole to even think about f keys

I mean I’d say I fell in as well, however it’s just nice for work

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Need to bring a big backpack anyway

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:53 PM

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you're not that far down at 60-75%

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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I mean I was contemplating a 40

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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yeah... I'm contemplating a 20...

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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But it’s my wrists that are a thing now

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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viral bramble yeah... I'm contemplating a 20...

Bruh

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Show me

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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ohh, you can't buy these as kits, but I'm contemplating designing a pcb for a 20

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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Where would you even start

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I mean cases and plates you can have companies printed those for you

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Same goes for pcb’s? There a template for it?

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RN_4PQ0j1A

YouTube

Ben Vallack

Has Your Keyboard Got Too Many Keys?

In this video I go into some detail about the layout I'm using on my 16 key keyboard. It has taken me a while to get to this point and I think there are now very few barriers to this keyboard being able to sustain pretty fast typing.

The main thing that makes this layout so unusual is the way we deal with using two layers for the alpha keys. ...

▶ Play video

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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Dude

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How

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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that's still smaller than I'd want to go, at least for now

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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Thats 12 keys each side

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Both

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I mean both

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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it's 16 keys

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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That are letters I assume

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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total

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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But how

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The alfabet has 26

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:57 PM

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you've got 2 alphabet layers

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 12:57 PM

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That sounds like explicitly handicapping yourself

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How would that even work

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 12:58 PM

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I'm also thinking about getting back into stenography (which is like 13 keys or something like that)

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 1:00 PM

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The same guy from the video

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His gergoplex looks like the furthest I’m willing to go

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Is there a lot for that?

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Kit*

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 1:01 PM

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probably, but yeah, I think 34 or 36 keys is probably my sweet spot

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 1:02 PM

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I checked out the website for a gergoplex kit

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But they’re gone

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Gonna as in

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Bye bye site

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 1:02 PM

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thought they might be, you can get 5 column corne's though

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there was a lot of discussion around the one guy running it having to shut it down (don't remember why)

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 1:03 PM

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I dislike how most of it it’s just america so you pay millions in shipping

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Must be worse for Uk folk

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 1:05 PM

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yeah... can be pretty miserable sometimes

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 2:08 PM

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viral bramble yeah... can be pretty miserable sometimes

Oh I forgot to ask

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What are choc switches

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Or what’s so special about them

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 2:49 PM

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surreal crow What are choc switches

low profile switches - but they've got a slightly different pin arrangement so the pcb has to be designed for them

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 6:40 PM

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viral bramble low profile switches - but they've got a slightly different pin arrangement so t...

But why do they need special pins? Or is just because it's their own design?

viral bramble Jan 23, 2023, 6:41 PM

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surreal crow But why do they need special pins? Or is just because it's their own design?

It's just how they're designed afaik

surreal crow Jan 23, 2023, 6:41 PM

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You used them right?

viral bramble Jan 24, 2023, 10:31 AM

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surreal crow You used them right?

Yeah, I like choc switches for portable boards

surreal crow Jan 24, 2023, 11:07 AM

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New order for tomorrow

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@viral bramble

viral bramble Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 AM

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surreal crow New order for tomorrow

baby kangaroo? not heard of them before

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but very nice

wise lintel Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 AM

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Oh that’s who ordered the baby kangaroo

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Il get slaughtering right away

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I had to make the joke

surreal crow Jan 24, 2023, 11:17 AM

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viral bramble baby kangaroo? not heard of them before

Me neither but they sounded nice

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They need a firm tactile event but cant be too loud

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:26 PM

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@viral bramble today I’m playing an order for a Q10

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(Wrong ping lmao)

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Don’t know what switches

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:30 PM

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surreal crow Don’t know what switches

it's your keyboard... and I know that we like very different types of switches

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:30 PM

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viral bramble it's your keyboard... and I know that we like very different types of switches

That I know so that’s why I’m reluctant to ask

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I don’t wanna buy more zealios

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Last batch I paid 100 something euro for

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I do like m

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:31 PM

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fair enough, if you want something different, gateron clears

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Are they tactile?

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:31 PM

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nope, linears

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they're my favourite mx switch atm

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:31 PM

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My favorite linears right now are gateron milky yellow

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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yeah, imagine those but with a 35g actuation force

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Ono

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You using those?

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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yeah

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Oeh

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Pic

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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I've got a choc board with 12g linears in them

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:32 PM

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What’s your daily driver

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:33 PM

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you've seen it, and I don't have my phone to hand

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Oh

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Alrighty

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Im converting people on my new job now

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:33 PM

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daily driver is a corne/crkbd with lubed and o-ringed gateron clears (but with 20g springs in them)

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:33 PM

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One person is already deep too

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They got a tiger 80 by kbdfans

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Im offering building services too

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:D

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I just like building them

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:35 PM

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that's not that deep though, but ig even halfway down doesn't look that deep from near the bottom

surreal crow Jan 25, 2023, 7:35 PM

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What would you say

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The bottom looks like?

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Wild guess

viral bramble Jan 25, 2023, 7:36 PM

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something like this...

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but the thing is that everything's so different because they're all COMPLETELY custom

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 7:22 AM

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It is done

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 8:38 AM

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those baby kangaroo switches

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420 euro

wise lintel Jan 26, 2023, 8:39 AM

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Yea I’m rolling it it now that baby kangaroo business is booming

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 8:41 AM

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Pre lubed

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wise lintel Jan 26, 2023, 8:44 AM

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You realise I don’t have unlimited baby kangaroos

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That was all my stock

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 8:51 AM

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I bought 90 pcs

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Most expensive keeb I ever ordered

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 10:35 AM

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surreal crow 420 euro

that's certainly more than I've ever spent on one...

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 10:35 AM

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viral bramble that's certainly more than I've ever spent on one...

Yours look more expensive though

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What does your build cost

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

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surreal crow Yours look more expensive though

most of mine don't even have a case

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

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viral bramble most of mine don't even have a case

Lmao

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

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surreal crow What does your build cost

typically somewhere between 75-150 pounds

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

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Can I just make a left ortho split for games

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

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yes

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 10:38 AM

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surreal crow Can I just make a left ortho split for games

it'd be a bit of a pain to get a pcb for that though - pcb manufacturers only do in 5s (which is really annoying), and most kits will be both halves - but other than that there's nothing stopping you

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 10:49 AM

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viral bramble it'd be a bit of a pain to get a pcb for that though - pcb manufacturers only do...

Any split ortho kit you recommend?

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As a starter

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That’s in stock

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I would get that gergoplex thingy but obviously the site is down

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 11:00 AM

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yeah, I mean, what size, how many thumb keys, ortho or column stagger? (most of what you'll get split wise is column staggered)

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 12:42 PM

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viral bramble yeah, I mean, what size, how many thumb keys, ortho or column stagger? (most of ...

Sounds good

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Uhh

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I wanna have at least all letters available

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Shift, Ctrl and windows/command

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 12:48 PM

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surreal crow I wanna have at least all letters available

as in on their own keys... uhhm, there are a number of 40% boards (like the corne that I've got) quite a few 60% boards as well (lily 58 for example) I'd probably have to have a bit of a google for others but there are loads, if you want to go really far, I really like the dactyl manuform (you have to handwire it though)

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 12:52 PM

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Oh the lily58 looks great

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 12:52 PM

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viral bramble as in on their own keys... uhhm, there are a number of 40% boards (like the corn...

Can I put low profiles on that one?

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Also it looks SO much cheaper than full boards jeeeeezzzus

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<50 euro!

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@viral bramble

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 1:04 PM

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surreal crow Can I put low profiles on that one?

idk, I know you can on a sofle - which is very similar in tems of layout

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 PM

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viral bramble idk, I know you can on a sofle - which is very similar in tems of layout

They look cool and I wanna try them now however I don’t feel like following half a programming course to get the firmware working or soldering diodes and shit

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 1:52 PM

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surreal crow They look cool and I wanna try them now however I don’t feel like following half...

as long as you don't get surface mounted diodes that's not a problem, just like soldering switches, and qmk has a bunch of keymap examples, you'll probably find something in there, and naturally I'd be happy to give you a hand!

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 1:53 PM

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viral bramble as long as you don't get surface mounted diodes that's not a problem, just like ...

When that time comes (next month maybe), I’ll do some more research beforehand

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I’ll keep it in mind

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 1:53 PM

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surreal crow When that time comes (next month maybe), I’ll do some more research beforehand

fair enough

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 1:53 PM

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I just spend 420 euro on my q10 sooo

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 PM

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yeah, maybe hold off for a bit...

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 1:55 PM

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It’s just now setting in that I paid that

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I was reading the sofle guide, doesn’t look too bad

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By the time I get going with it I’ll be used to the Alice layout which will help significantly

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 5:28 PM

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Found a Dutch split kb site

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 6:01 PM

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ahh, forgot they were dutch, should've mentioned them earlier! - probably one of the best ones in europe (which is slightly annoying for me...)

surreal crow Jan 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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viral bramble ahh, forgot they were dutch, should've mentioned them earlier! - probably one of...

I’m sorry buddy

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But good for me :)

viral bramble Jan 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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there's a similar shop in the uk that's also really good (not quite as good though, but it does the job)

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Receiving the kangaroo switches today

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Keychron just shipped today

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:30 PM

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surreal crow Receiving the kangaroo switches today

oohh nice, in the mean time I've been learning this layout

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:30 PM

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viral bramble oohh nice, in the mean time I've been learning this layout

For one hand right?

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:30 PM

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surreal crow For one hand right?

no, that's both hands

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:30 PM

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🤡

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:31 PM

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you can also notice the duplicate letters (and the many missing)

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Yes

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-why-but-gif-18891456

Tenor

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:43 PM

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surreal crow https://tenor.com/view/sad-why-but-gif-18891456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVXrX5TDk4

YouTube

Aerick

How Steno Works At 200 WPM

A slightly abridged version of the video from last year. Yes, I am aware of the mistakes I made in trying to live caption this video.

Join the Plover Discord server: https://discord.gg/NAzMz7C3wq

One thing I did not mention in the video is that "Plover" is the name of the steno software I use.

Plover And Steno Explained: https://www.youtube.c...

▶ Play video

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:44 PM

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Ahhh

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You are deep, huh

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:45 PM

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I'm thinking of building a board specifically for it too...

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:46 PM

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viral bramble I'm thinking of building a board specifically for it too...

So you're at rock bottom

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:47 PM

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no. there are people that create their own steno theories, but I'm not going that far (not yet at least)

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 12:49 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/trollge-uncanny-depressed-sad-trollface-gif-24958563

Tenor

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 12:49 PM

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I also haven't yet created my own 'normal' keyboard layout

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but I have been tempted...

surreal crow Jan 31, 2023, 1:34 PM

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viral bramble I also haven't yet created my own 'normal' keyboard layout

Shame

viral bramble Jan 31, 2023, 1:43 PM

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surreal crow Shame

still don't use qwerty though

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:22 PM

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viral bramble still don't use qwerty though

I also ordered a new deskpad btw

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Q10 should arrive in 2 weeks or so?

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:22 PM

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surreal crow I also ordered a new deskpad btw

nice, nice

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I ordered a new board...

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:22 PM

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viral bramble I ordered a new board...

You bad girl

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Show me

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Depending on how the Alice board works for me, my next one will be a split solder

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:23 PM

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surreal crow Show me

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I went for something unibody

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Aha

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:24 PM

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surprisingly, this'll be my first unibody board

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and it's almost the weirdest

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well, arguably the weirdest

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Looks like your wrist would have to be mad tilted

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Which is exactly why I’m interested in Alice and split

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:24 PM

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define "mad tilted"

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:25 PM

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I mean

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Weird torsion?

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With a regular board my wrists hurt since I have to do a lot of typing for work

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:25 PM

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ahh, this one's split enough that it's not really a problem

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Ah I see

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Im gonna need another display stand

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These are two completely self build ones

viral bramble Feb 3, 2023, 8:27 PM

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oohh, nice

surreal crow Feb 3, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Rather basic but they for nice on my windowsill

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Look*

surreal crow Feb 8, 2023, 2:31 PM

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My q10 is in Belgium so

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Very soon

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But it will be delivered with shit tier GLS so pray for me

viral bramble Feb 8, 2023, 2:36 PM

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surreal crow My q10 is in Belgium so

ooh, nice. Also, good luck...

surreal crow Feb 13, 2023, 8:39 PM

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viral bramble ooh, nice. Also, good luck...

It gets here tomorrow 😎

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When I got my home office day

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The stars are aligning

viral bramble Feb 13, 2023, 8:40 PM

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how much work do you think is going to get done?

surreal crow Feb 13, 2023, 8:40 PM

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Don’t worry about it no more than usual

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In between calls I just watch videos anyway

viral bramble Feb 13, 2023, 8:41 PM

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haha, fair enough

surreal crow Feb 13, 2023, 8:41 PM

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And I get to see my doggy AND I don’t have to deal with my coworkers

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I love home office

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:12 PM

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@viral bramble

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viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:13 PM

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surreal crow

that does look very nice

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Just cable managed the rainbow cable I got with it

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Touch typing is gonna be a challenge

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This already feels better on my wrists but my WPM is 30

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:19 PM

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what is it normally?

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Depends

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80-90 ish

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:20 PM

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you'll probably pick it up fairly quickly, I at least never found the split aspect that hard to get used to, it was more the ortho (and tiny board)

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:20 PM

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This beast weighs in at glorious 2,5 KG

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Very nice, might annoy my coworkers with the sound though

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:21 PM

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has the q10 got a lead weight in the bottom of it or something?

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:22 PM

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No, the whole thing is just a massive slab of aluminum

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:22 PM

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fair enough!

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:24 PM

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I seperately ordered a polycarbonate plate

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Sounds very good

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Poly might be my new favorite

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:25 PM

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I don't know shit about plates, like 2 thirds of my boards are plateless

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Choc switches dont take plates?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:27 PM

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afaik they can, but all my builds are just plateless

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:35 PM

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viral bramble afaik they can, but all my builds are just plateless

Just to make them lighter?

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Or are there other advantages

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More flat?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:36 PM

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mostly that, and I quite like the bare pcb look to it

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and it means you can take the switches apart without desoldering (or using hot swaps, which are less secure)

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:37 PM

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Choc switches come in hotswap too right?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:40 PM

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you can get choc hotswap sockets but they're not very common

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:44 PM

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viral bramble you can get choc hotswap sockets but they're not very common

So all the paths spell out soldering?

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Also getting a little faster with the typing now but its hard to keeo my hands in their own territory

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:45 PM

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yeah, be hard on yourself about that, especially if you go for something more split down the line

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Yeah it doesnt happen a lot but getting there

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:46 PM

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surreal crow So all the paths spell out soldering?

well, when you're designing your own PCBs, the fact that you have to solder isn't really top of your list of concerns

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:48 PM

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viral bramble well, when you're designing your own PCBs, the fact that you have to solder isn'...

Yeah alright fair enough

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I just dont have a good solering iron

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:53 PM

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I don't have a good one either, still works though

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:53 PM

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Mine came with a bass guitar toolkit

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 2:57 PM

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fair enough then!

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 2:59 PM

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But my dad has a good one

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I just go over there if I need anything soldered

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Dad's always ready to help

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 3:36 PM

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viral bramble fair enough then!

I know you're all about the splits and whatnot but have you ever had a keeb with a metal case?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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surreal crow I know you're all about the splits and whatnot but have you ever had a keeb with...

I've had one, I've not built one

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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viral bramble I've had one, I've not built one

Ever notice a small amount of electric current flowing through it? 2/3 or maybe all of my metal case keebs have it when you move your skin past the case

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Its not a lot or painful or anything but when I remove the cable its gone

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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uhhm, no?

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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Hmmm

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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but that is mildly concerning...

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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It just feels a bit funny when my hand rubs past the case

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Like is ribbed or roughly textured

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But when I remove the cable its gone

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 3:47 PM

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that's not really the point, it means there's something circuit wise touching the case, which is not a good thing (if one more piece touches, that may well be bye bye keyboard)

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 3:48 PM

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My Tofu 84 has had it for ages

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Still works perfectly

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But now my q10 has it aswell

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Funnily enough my own build metal case keeb has nothing

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Yup just tested it

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It doesnt have it

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Is it a health risk or anything?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 3:52 PM

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uhh, probably not, given the power output of USB, but then again I'm not an electrical engineer

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or a doctor

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:11 PM

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viral bramble uhh, probably not, given the power output of USB, but then again I'm not an elec...

I di ask an electrical engineer earlier today its fine

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 9:13 PM

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hmm

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doesn't feel fine but sure, go for it!

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:13 PM

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He said PCB is probably touching somewhere but other than that its fine

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Which is weird given I only have this with keyboard kits

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And not the on I fully did DIY

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Which I´d expect to shock me a little more than the full kits

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:34 PM

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@viral bramble

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Slow inprovements

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 9:36 PM

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I mean, 15wpm in half a day is pretty quick... (although that's starting from nothing)

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:36 PM

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53'

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Well yeah but I dropped from 80-90 to 30 at first

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And 80-90 isnt even fast by keeb people standards

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Doesnt need to be faster hust better for my wrists this one

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 9:37 PM

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that's true, I can't say I type that fast and I do about 100-120

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:38 PM

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You starting that Stenography stuff soon?

viral bramble Feb 14, 2023, 9:39 PM

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ohh, I've already started learning, about 50-60wpm though - dedicated keeb hasn't arrived yet, well the pcb hasn't I have the rest of it

surreal crow Feb 14, 2023, 9:44 PM

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Ah neat

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Would be a nightmare for me

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The way you gotta make chords with it on that video you send me

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I already switched from bass to guitar to avoid chords ;P

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Years ago

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I mean

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From guitar to bass

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:53 PM

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@surreal crow ^

surreal crow Feb 17, 2023, 9:54 PM

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swagthumbsup

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Looking good

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Something I wont ever use but

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Looks like art

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:54 PM

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I think it looks brilliant

surreal crow Feb 17, 2023, 9:54 PM

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Fun build?

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:56 PM

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trivial build - 28 switches, 1 controller, SMD diodes were already soldered, no case (obviously), will be tape modding & lubing the switches but haven't bothered yet

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did it in like 45 mins

surreal crow Feb 17, 2023, 9:56 PM

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Choc switches as well?

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:56 PM

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yup

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20g actuation linears

surreal crow Feb 17, 2023, 9:56 PM

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You can lube those?

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:56 PM

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(choc pinks)

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:57 PM

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surreal crow You can lube those?

yeah

surreal crow Feb 17, 2023, 9:57 PM

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But isn't that even more tedious than regular switches

viral bramble Feb 17, 2023, 9:58 PM

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not really, I mean you can't use mx switch openers but that's about the only difference

surreal crow Mar 24, 2023, 9:51 AM

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https://v.redd.it/8j24mmy87ipa1

r/MechanicalKeyboards on Reddit: Qwerty vs Steno on the Polyglot ke...

Posted by u/petercpork - 2,397 votes and 174 comments

viral bramble Mar 24, 2023, 9:58 AM

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yes.

surreal crow Mar 24, 2023, 10:12 AM

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Over 200 wpm that’s crazy

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How would you go about learn that

quartz meteor Mar 24, 2023, 10:18 AM

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I'd probably focus more on what one types, rather than how fast one types it. 😛

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https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-tea-none-gif-12341555

Tenor

viral bramble Mar 24, 2023, 10:52 AM

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quartz meteor I'd probably focus more on *what* one types, rather than how fast one types it. ...

but if you type faster, then you can type more, so you cast a wider net to focus on what one types

viral bramble Mar 24, 2023, 10:52 AM

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surreal crow How would you go about learn that

lots and lots and lots and lost more practice

quartz meteor Mar 24, 2023, 11:17 AM

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viral bramble but if you type faster, then you can type more, so you cast a wider net to focus...

I work with a few other software engineers with that approach...

surreal crow Apr 4, 2023, 12:26 PM

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I received my gateron oil kings yesterday and put them in my work keyboard, they type like a dream. I might just start becoming a linear gal

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They’re more quiet so my coworkers are happier too haha

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Might order a new batch for my main board next month

viral bramble Apr 4, 2023, 12:31 PM

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those do look very nice, helps that they're factory lubed and not too heavy

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and I am a massive fan of linears, moved to them a couple years ago and haven't looked back

surreal crow Apr 6, 2023, 7:31 AM

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Im now shilling my custom keebs at work. Already sold one >:) Ordered all the parts and I get to assemble it.

surreal crow Apr 21, 2023, 10:32 AM

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By the way, is there a product available that will make a holee mod easier ?

viral bramble Apr 21, 2023, 10:33 AM

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it's a stab mod, I have no idea

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I don't deal with stabs...

surreal crow Apr 21, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Oh right haha

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Because this

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This is a pain

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Getting the tiny bandaid just the right size so it will fit

viral bramble Apr 21, 2023, 10:34 AM

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it is indeed! - looks similar to tape modding the choc switches

surreal crow Apr 21, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Then make it fit

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I wonder, because if everyone mods stabs anyway. Is there not a product with this solution already implemented?

viral bramble Apr 21, 2023, 10:38 AM

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maybe?? as I say, stabs are black magic to me

surreal crow Apr 21, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Haha oh no

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But at least we're sharing pain the make on tiny mods

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:20 PM

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I'm a moonlander enjoy, what can I say.

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:21 PM

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hurray!! - someone else with good taste in keyboards

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Bongo_Cat

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I want to get a Keychron K7 Ultra slim for my tablet, but I do not need it one bit

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:23 PM

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the bug has bit my friend, you may have to give in...

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:23 PM

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Eh, I've had my moonlander for a while now, but I definitely can't go back to a non QMK keyboard

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:24 PM

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I've exclusively run split, ortho/column stagger qmk boards for like 4 years

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:24 PM

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I love this keyboard, but I do sometimes want a normal keyboard so I can customise it a bit more. It's hard to find keycaps for the moonlander because the thumb cluster is 1.5u, and most key sets have every size known to man, except 1.5u. If they have one, it's one in the entire set

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Ah yeah. It's superior

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I get a lot of comment's like "oh what a stupid keyboard"

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And then when people try and use it they don't like it

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They don't know the way

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I also use Colemak because I'm not a heathen

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:25 PM

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haha, I'm learning stenography, the keyboards for that are worse

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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Is that the law transcription people

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thinking_blob

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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supple sky I also use Colemak because I'm not a heathen

I switch between dvorak and workman - dvorak I prefer because it's in windows...

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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Technically put, I know.

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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supple sky Is that the law transcription people

yes, although I'm doing it for fun

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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Oh do you not use a QMK set up for your Dvorak?

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Why change it in the windows settings?

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:27 PM

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I do, but I can then switch it on other boards & on my laptop

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if I can I use a qmk setup - and then probably workman

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:28 PM

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viral bramble I do, but I can then switch it on other boards & on my laptop

Ahhh right makes sense

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On my tablet I have to use US Colemak, it's very annyoing

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But I was lucky to find one

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Incase you're interested for some reason:
https://configure.zsa.io/moonlander/layouts/6DnoN/latest/0

Oryx: The ZSA Keyboard Configurator

A powerful, visual tool to configure your keyboard. Based on the open-source QMK firmware.

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My gaming layout basically just switches it back to QWERTY

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:31 PM

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no mod-DH???

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Mm?

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I'm not sure what you mean by that

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:32 PM

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ahhh

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https://colemakmods.github.io/mod-dh/

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:33 PM

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OH right

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:33 PM

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waayy more popular than normal colemak - that's why I were confused

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Yeah that's what I use is it not...

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THONK

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:33 PM

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right, haha

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:33 PM

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I couldn't remember what the letters were which is why I said just "colemak" ngl

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I knew there was two versions... But small brain

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I'm not used to talking to people who know what they're on about

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Normally it's people like "why would you have that instead of a normal keyboard" or "that looks just difficult to type on"

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:34 PM

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(we're a bit few and far between)

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you're one of 2 others that I've found yet

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Haha

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I love my moonlander man, the single best thing I have for my computer

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I would give up all my virpil stuff, 3080, etc, if I could keep the moonlander

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:36 PM

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I suggest having a look at fully custom keyboards - specifically the yt channel Ben Vallack - does some really crazy things with them

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:37 PM

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Yeah I've watched some of his videos... I don't need to spend more money, besides, I don't really like they idea of having to choose between keyboards lol

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I also really really like ZSA's Oryx software, standard VIA looks pain compared

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But if my moonlander ever kicks the bed, I will

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:38 PM

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supple sky *I also really really like ZSA's Oryx software, standard VIA looks pain compared...

haha, I'm writing my keymaps in pure qmk in C

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:40 PM

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Yeah fair... I mean I could, like I know how... But buttons and clicky clicky easier and quicker for monke brain

viral bramble Apr 29, 2023, 11:40 PM

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that's very true

supple sky Apr 29, 2023, 11:41 PM

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I also haven't really changed my layout in many months

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I should remove the DCS layer tbh, now that I've got my virpil stuff, I don't use it

surreal crow May 4, 2023, 6:52 AM

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Oh my good

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Cool keeb tho

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Next up for me is a Keychron V8 since I'm an ALICE enjoyer

surreal crow May 8, 2023, 1:08 PM

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@viral bramble I require some help :D

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I wanna get a mercutio 40 kit

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But was are these MillMax sockets?

quartz meteor May 8, 2023, 1:13 PM

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They are sockets for the PCB. Rather than soldering to the board, you can plug into them instead.

viral bramble May 8, 2023, 1:14 PM

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^

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if you're using a microcontroller rather than everything soldered onto the PCB

surreal crow May 8, 2023, 1:14 PM

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Ohh

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So you can make it hotswap basically

quartz meteor May 8, 2023, 1:15 PM

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Yeaps.

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Our controls guys at work use them (iirc) as the machines my software designs vibrate a lot, and soldered connections sometimes break.

surreal crow May 9, 2023, 9:08 AM

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Yeah that settles it, I’ll buy the mercutio 40 next month would be a fine build

surreal crow May 9, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Scratch that

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I bought the Mercutio kit today

viral bramble May 9, 2023, 9:47 PM

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surreal crow I bought the Mercutio kit today

I knew it wouldn't be that long ;)

surreal crow May 10, 2023, 6:16 AM

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viral bramble I knew it wouldn't be that long ;)

Shhhh

surreal crow May 10, 2023, 4:26 PM

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I got some stab mods coming in as well

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Should make my life better

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I love holee mod but I hate doing holee mod

viral bramble May 10, 2023, 4:26 PM

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that's lovely - I still don't do stabs

surreal crow May 10, 2023, 4:26 PM

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viral bramble that's lovely - I still don't do stabs

I know sorry haha

viral bramble May 10, 2023, 4:26 PM

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that's how I get around that problem!

surreal crow May 10, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Doesn’t steno have big keys as well?

viral bramble May 10, 2023, 4:30 PM

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officially it would have one 2u key and a bar across the top, but most hobby boards either exclude the bar, or replace it with several 1u wide keys (or exclude them all together), and replace the 2u vertical key with 2x 1u keys

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but proper steno boards don't use traditional switches anyway, they're lever machines, so stabs aren't necessary for them either

surreal crow May 11, 2023, 11:28 AM

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viral bramble but proper steno boards don't use traditional switches anyway, they're lever mac...

Aha I see, watched some videos

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So they use dedicated steno machines to, I assume, prevent some sort of fraude?

viral bramble May 11, 2023, 11:35 AM

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🤷

surreal crow May 11, 2023, 11:47 AM

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Perhaps it was because it has been around longer than mech keebs?

viral bramble May 11, 2023, 12:25 PM

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probably yeah, also, with the lever machines you don't have to press with more force when you press multiple keys at once like you would with a mech keeb

surreal crow May 26, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Ordereds these for my new 40 build

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Should all be coming in oncoming week

surreal crow May 28, 2023, 12:45 PM

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Millmaxing sucks

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Millmaxing sucks

viral bramble May 28, 2023, 1:25 PM

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it's worth putting the extra effort in if you need to switch out the microcontroller though

surreal crow May 28, 2023, 1:38 PM

#

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All done!

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Jades for testing purposes

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Millmaxing ain’t that bad if you get in the groove

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But boy can you mess it up

viral bramble May 28, 2023, 1:47 PM

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you most certainly can!

surreal crow May 28, 2023, 2:18 PM

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I thought for sure I messed up badly once but I was able to fix my misatake

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I lost some millmax sockets and a total of 3-4 switches

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But I did it

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It fully works

surreal crow Jun 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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It's finally done. Takes a bit of getting used to on a 40 percent

viral bramble Jun 14, 2023, 4:14 PM

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surreal crow

very nice, what switches?

surreal crow Jun 14, 2023, 4:14 PM

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Gateron North poles v2

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Very heavy, 60 gram

viral bramble Jun 14, 2023, 4:15 PM

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I couldn't.

surreal crow Jun 14, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Yeah these might be too much as well for me

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I love the oil kings though'

supple sky Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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surreal crow

Ooo nice

surreal crow Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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supple sky Ooo nice

It sucks

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It looks nice but

supple sky Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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Yeah lol?

surreal crow Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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40 is not practical

viral bramble Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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what do you mean

supple sky Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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Interesting

viral bramble Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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I daily drive a 30%

surreal crow Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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I brought it to work a couple times

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I really can’t use it

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I use too much special characters and numbers

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Also at work I like to properly punctuate and the whole shebang but it’s taking three times the amount of time

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It looks pretty and I’m gonna reuse the key cap set but I’m not gonna use any more 40s

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I’m done with those

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I know that’s a hot take

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But it’s not for me

viral bramble Jun 23, 2023, 1:02 PM

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I don't think that's too hot a take, I mean, they work great for me but I doubt they'll work well for most people

surreal crow Jun 23, 2023, 1:06 PM

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It looks nice on display

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Imma yoink that cap set though

sturdy nymph Jun 23, 2023, 4:08 PM

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I tried using a 36 key layout on my moonlander to minimize finger movement, but I spent way too much time going to layers, especially when writing code.

supple sky Jun 30, 2023, 11:50 AM

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sturdy nymph I tried using a 36 key layout on my moonlander to minimize finger movement, but ...

Yeah I keep getting tempted to try that

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I don't code anymore so it wouldn't be a problem

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Could try and tap dance the other things

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I had one for ( ) and " " when I still programmed, but I forgot I had them at some point

sturdy nymph Sep 20, 2023, 6:17 PM

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I soldered on the sockets, microscopic diodes, and encoders. I'm waiting for the choc switches and microcontrollers.

viral bramble Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 PM

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now that's my type of keyboard!! (mind if I ask which?)

sturdy nymph Sep 21, 2023, 12:00 AM

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viral bramble now that's my type of keyboard!! (mind if I ask which?)

Sofle Choc 2. https://choc.brianlow.com
And I have custom shine through keycaps from https://fkcaps.com/custom/
I just spent an hour putting the RGB LEDs on the back, so they better look great!

Sofle Choc

Sofle Choc Kits

Sofle Choc split keyboard kits

Custom Keycaps

Design your own custom keycap sets!

sturdy nymph Sep 21, 2023, 11:10 PM

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The switches arrived, and I got the assembly done. I've added a few layers so far. Now I need to figure out how to set the per-key lights to anything other than red.

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And I realized I messed up the \ | key and put the symbols in the wrong order. Oops.

viral bramble Sep 22, 2023, 12:05 AM

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sturdy nymph

another dvorak user I see!!

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 11:50 AM

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hello mech nerds ❤️

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heres another one of mine

rocky bolt Jul 1, 2024, 12:09 PM

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Tactile DCS (KEYBOARDS)

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 12:52 PM

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efreet (1 of 10 produced) prototypes with tealios v2 lubed with tribosys 3204 and some slow sprit spring

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:21 PM

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I forgor about this channel

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Have since progressed from Moonlander to Voyager, I love it

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:22 PM

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my current daily drivers are as posted in the other channel but will repost

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:22 PM

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supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:23 PM

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celest skiff my current daily drivers are as posted in the other channel but will repost

Damn nice bro

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Ortholinear ftw

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:23 PM

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nice, those splits look so small 🙂

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yeah, I use 40% ortho for coding c# at work

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Ah yeah fair man

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:24 PM

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that white ortho is a planck! (my others arent) 🙂

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but with 3rd party case

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:26 PM

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I wish I had bought an EZ Planck from ZSA, but trying not to become a keyboard collector when I own 2 and they're both £300+ lol

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:26 PM

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know the feeling, I stopped but ended up getting another one that I havent built (china m0110 copy for mx switches)

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Voyager is sick tho, so much money for so little keys and stuff tho

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I bet, I love the feel of typing on ortholinears (kinda wish I had a lets split)

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:29 PM

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I could sell you my moonlander

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I need to sell it tbh

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I just don't want to let go :(

celest skiff Jul 1, 2024, 7:29 PM

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"I have too many already" 🙂

supple sky Jul 1, 2024, 7:30 PM

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lol yeah fair

sturdy nymph Jul 1, 2024, 7:55 PM

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I went back to using the Moonlander.

viral bramble Jul 1, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Someone said small split ortho??

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(ferris sweep with lubed choc pinks - 12g linears)

supple sky Jul 3, 2024, 1:09 PM

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sturdy nymph

Nice, interesting thumb cluster keys. I already found the outer ones hard to press, using 1u keys looks even more difficult

sturdy nymph Jul 3, 2024, 3:57 PM

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supple sky Nice, interesting thumb cluster keys. I already found the outer ones hard to pre...

I have no trouble reaching them, and I do not have large hands. The close ones are tab and space (hold for layer), the middle ones are escape and enter (hold for shift), and the ones at the tip are delete and backspace.

sturdy nymph Jul 3, 2024, 4:01 PM

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viral bramble Someone said small split ortho??

I tried going 5x3, but I was having to use multiple layer keys in order to get to some keys and found I had to either go slowly, or I'd sometimes reverse the order of the layer keys, and get the wrong layer.

supple sky Jul 3, 2024, 4:02 PM

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sturdy nymph I have no trouble reaching them, and I do not have large hands. The close ones a...

Hmm. It was the very outer ones on each side that I always struggled with. Like I could move my hands slightly and reach them, but they were essentially the only keys on the board I had to move my hands a bit to hit. The 1.5u keycaps helped, I just think for me 1u' like what you have, would make it more difficult for me

sturdy nymph Jul 3, 2024, 4:04 PM

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supple sky Hmm. It was the very outer ones on each side that I always struggled with. Like ...

I went with 1U, because the keycap set I have has 1U escape and delete keys. I could try the unlabeled 1.5U keys from ZSA.

viral bramble Jul 3, 2024, 4:46 PM

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sturdy nymph I tried going 5x3, but I was having to use multiple layer keys in order to get t...

how I've got mine setup is using layer tap - the outer thumb keys are esc and enter when tapped and when pressed individually go into different layers, and when pressed together go into a fourth layer - that's been enough layers for me and since getting used to it I've not actually had an issue with it

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I've got a 6x3 crkbd as well which I've setup in the same way (using a 5x3 layout) and then have PTT keys setup on the other column making it nice and convenient

sturdy nymph Jul 7, 2024, 7:25 PM

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viral bramble how I've got mine setup is using layer tap - the outer thumb keys are esc and en...

Can you share your keymap? I'm assuming it's QMK. I've been looking for a way to remove the number row and go 5x3+3 with a Corne choc.

viral bramble Jul 7, 2024, 7:28 PM

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sturdy nymph Can you share your keymap? I'm assuming it's QMK. I've been looking for a way to...

I don't have the keymap source on this computer but I'll recreate it in QMK configurator

viral bramble Jul 7, 2024, 8:09 PM

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sturdy nymph Can you share your keymap? I'm assuming it's QMK. I've been looking for a way to...

don't even have the keeb to hand so this is all from memory - but this is the rough essence of it (everything that's important is definitely there)

📎 ferris_sweep_layout_split_3x5_2_mine.json

sturdy nymph Jul 8, 2024, 4:37 AM

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This is what I have so far.
Layer 0 is for general typing. It has the dvorak 10x3 grid, whitespace characters, delete, backspace, and all the modifiers as by holding some of those keys. It also has layer toggle keys for L1 and L4.
L1 is navigation. It has arrows, some with control or alt baked in, page up/down and home/end, which I rarely use, and the number keys. It also has CAPS LOCK and CAPSWORD, which is great for typing in constants when programming.
L2 is i3 stuff: moving between windows and desktops, floating and hiding windows, taking screenshots, killing a window, and an RCTL for getting out of VirtualBox VMs.
L3 is discord stuff: navigate channels and upload files. I should add more shortcuts here.
L4 is function keys, the symbols that didn't fit on L0, and modifier keys. So if I want a ?, I have to press and hold B to get to L4 and enter to shift, and then tap E to get the character.
If I find going to a layer and then shifting to get the L4 and L1 symbols is a pain, I'll create a direct layer for them.

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The parts to build the Corne will be here this week. I also went with blank keycaps, which seems weird, but I don't look at my keyboard, unless I'm typing with one finger, while eating.

viral bramble Jul 8, 2024, 7:54 AM

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sturdy nymph This is what I have so far. Layer 0 is for general typing. It has the dvorak 10x...

you'll have to figure out what you want after you start typing on it, most of the advice when creating layouts is: "do what you want, and if you don't know, you'll figure it out"

viral bramble Jul 8, 2024, 7:55 AM

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sturdy nymph The parts to build the Corne will be here this week. I also went with blank keyc...

blank keycaps are the best keycaps

sturdy nymph Jul 8, 2024, 3:08 PM

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viral bramble you'll have to figure out what you want after you start typing on it, most of th...

Yeah. I'm on iteration infinity minus one with the moonlander. The layout above is basically my current moonlander layout transferred to 5*3+3.

celest skiff Jul 8, 2024, 3:09 PM

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@sturdy nymph fellow dvorak user 🙂

viral bramble Jul 8, 2024, 3:25 PM

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make it three of us!

celest skiff Jul 8, 2024, 3:26 PM

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qwerty caps with dvorak layout, thats the way nods

sturdy nymph Jul 8, 2024, 4:49 PM

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viral bramble make it three of us!

viral bramble Jul 8, 2024, 4:50 PM

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celest skiff qwerty caps with dvorak layout, thats the way *nods*

blank caps ideally

celest skiff Jul 8, 2024, 4:50 PM

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I have GMK/SP SA-sets with qwerty on mine 🙂

sturdy nymph Jul 8, 2024, 6:40 PM

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This is the first keyboard I ever built. It's very complex. I have it plugged directly into my Linux machine, so I can control music playing on there while using another machine via the KVM switch.

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celest skiff Jul 8, 2024, 6:44 PM

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sturdy nymph This is the first keyboard I ever built. It's very complex. I have it plugged di...

nice, do you have tapdance stuff on it too?

sturdy nymph Jul 8, 2024, 7:57 PM

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celest skiff nice, do you have tapdance stuff on it too?

No. It has play/pause, back, forward, volume up/down, and mute.

celest skiff Jul 9, 2024, 8:50 AM

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my handwire

supple sky Jul 9, 2024, 5:41 PM

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viral bramble make it three of us!

Colemak

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why

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On my own

sturdy nymph Jul 9, 2024, 8:33 PM

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supple sky Colemak

Colemak looks cool, but I learned Dvorak in the 90s. It's not worth the work and frustration of switching for a small potential gain. Even just learning my new layout that's 95% Dvorak makes me want to cry sometimes.

supple sky Jul 9, 2024, 9:23 PM

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I really like it, I read that it was just an improvement to Dvorak so I didn't even try Dvorak first.

viral bramble Jul 9, 2024, 9:38 PM

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I'm in a similar boat, learnt dvorak before I knew about colemak/workman and other layouts - I did start learning rsthd a couple years ago but ended up deciding it just wasn't worth it - learning stenography now so...

supple sky Jul 9, 2024, 9:52 PM

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https://configure.zsa.io/voyager/layouts/BRz7Q/bN7nV/0

Oryx: The ZSA Keyboard Configurator

A powerful, visual tool to configure your keyboard. Based on the open-source QMK firmware.

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Not that anyone cares, but this is my current layout

sturdy nymph Jul 9, 2024, 9:59 PM

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supple sky Not that anyone cares, but this is my current layout

sturdy nymph Jul 12, 2024, 1:18 AM

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viral bramble Jul 12, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Have fun with the led's - took me like a day (first even surface mount though)

celest skiff Jul 12, 2024, 2:57 PM

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enjoy the build! I have a build I should do too but have been too lazy (china m0110 clone)

sturdy nymph Jul 12, 2024, 3:09 PM

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viral bramble Have fun with the led's - took me like a day (first even surface mount though)

I'm not putting LEDs on this one, since the key caps are opaque. Maybe in the future.

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I put LEDs on my sofle choc, and it was pretty quick though.

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I'll do it today after work.

viral bramble Jul 12, 2024, 3:29 PM

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Fair enough, I've got translucent caps on mine which I quite like

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Build is pretny fun otherwise

sturdy nymph Jul 14, 2024, 12:59 AM

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Assembly finished. Testing passed. Now it's time to create the keymap file.

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The red keys do have home bumps at the lower edge.

median field Jul 31, 2024, 11:14 AM

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I've got a dead Coolermaster Storm Quickfire XTi. Confirmed no activity from the microcontroller, it's getting all the voltages it should be but isn't running.

Don't really want to dump all the MX Brown switches, can solder. Are there any good "bring your own switches" keyboard products I should be looking at, or would it need to be fully custom?

viral bramble Jul 31, 2024, 12:08 PM

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median field I've got a dead Coolermaster Storm Quickfire XTi. Confirmed no activity from the...

pretty much every custom kit is just case, plate and PCB - bring your own switches and keycaps - you can probably buy just a bring your own switches kit but imo at that point you might as well go custom

celest skiff Jul 31, 2024, 12:20 PM

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it is not a showstopper but just be EXTREMELY mindful of it (I use vint cherry mx black in a hotswap board)

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and make sure you clean the switch legs very carefully from solder rests

sturdy nymph Jul 31, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Custom is better anyway. You can escape the qwerty typewriter layout.

sturdy nymph Jul 31, 2024, 3:28 PM

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Also, you can find solder on kits, but they're rare. And new switches are cheap, so if you have to replace everything, it's not too bad.

sturdy nymph Jul 31, 2024, 4:28 PM

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I didn't like how far my pinkies had to stretch with the Corne, so I built a Ferris with choc pink switches.

viral bramble Jul 31, 2024, 5:43 PM

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sturdy nymph I didn't like how far my pinkies had to stretch with the Corne, so I built a Fer...

very nice build! I'm loving my sweep with the pinks too!

sturdy nymph Jul 31, 2024, 6:08 PM

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The 20gf pinks feel a little light. If I don't like them, I'll try 25gf blues. I have 35gf reds in my Corne and they're just a hair too stiff, so I think a 30gf might be ideal. Unfortunately I don't see that as an option.

lethal oar Jul 31, 2024, 9:25 PM

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i can spit in that the Tartarus V2 has served med well for about two years now

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sturdy nymph Jul 31, 2024, 9:49 PM

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lethal oar i can spit in that the Tartarus V2 has served med well for about two years now

Do you control the flight stick with your foot? That's impressive! 😄

lethal oar Jul 31, 2024, 9:50 PM

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it is impressive indeed

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by the way the warthog set is from 2013, and it still works with literally no flaws

cold lake Jul 31, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Is there some coffee weathering too 😀

cold lake Jul 31, 2024, 10:41 PM

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lethal oar by the way the warthog set is from 2013, and it still works with literally no fl...

When they last they really last long

lethal oar Jul 31, 2024, 10:41 PM

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cold lake Is there some coffee weathering too 😀

oh yeah that side of my table is littered with coffeestains lmao

cold lake Sep 28, 2024, 3:59 AM

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(Not a real keyboard)

viral bramble Sep 28, 2024, 7:32 AM

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I'm sure you could make one with it

supple sky Sep 28, 2024, 3:12 PM

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Reminds me of the satellite that ZSA sells

viral bramble Sep 28, 2024, 3:36 PM

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exactly, it can definitely become a keyboard

sturdy nymph Oct 1, 2024, 1:29 AM

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I ordered ten Ferris Sweep Bling LP PCBs, because I wanted a black and a blue, and the minimum order is five each. Do any of you want a PCB?

viral bramble Oct 1, 2024, 7:54 AM

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hmm, I would but I already have 3 spare sweep PCBs

cold lake Nov 7, 2024, 1:36 PM

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New UHK 80 announced

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median field Nov 11, 2024, 3:52 AM

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kekdoge

cold lake Nov 11, 2024, 4:28 AM

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that's a lot of toggle switches

celest skiff Nov 11, 2024, 8:15 AM

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sturdy nymph Nov 11, 2024, 12:11 PM

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Those are like Cherry blues turned up to 11. That is a definite click.

viral bramble Nov 11, 2024, 12:31 PM

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really ergonomic too by the looks of it

sturdy nymph Jan 24, 2025, 6:52 PM

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I have freed myself from the tyranny of the 19th century typewriter keyboard layout. The two plates clip to the sides of the computer, without blocking any ports. I just need to remember to remove it, before closing the lid.
Unfortunately, that is not a wireless keyboard, so I think I'm going to build a wireless one.

celest skiff Jan 24, 2025, 6:52 PM

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looking nice

viral bramble Jan 24, 2025, 7:54 PM

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nice! - are they 3d printed

celest skiff Jan 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

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I still have a kit that I need to build (solder)

sturdy nymph Jan 25, 2025, 12:11 AM

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viral bramble nice! - are they 3d printed

Yes. I printed a plate with clips on the side that secure it to the computer. There's a 1mm indentation in the shape of the red case. The case press fits in there, so the keyboard has a consistent, symmetrical position.

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#Tactile DCS (KEYBOARDS)