[Playtesters Wanted!] DOCTRINEERS- Turn Based Strategy | Rust GameDev | Page 1

heady belfry Sep 16, 2022, 3:51 AM

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A turn-based strategy game made in ggez. Currently features networked play and is in a closed alpha state.

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The game is designed to be easy to pick up for even very new players, but have endless tactical and strategic depth, with a setup system which ensures no two games will ever be the same.

copper quiver Sep 17, 2022, 5:50 PM

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What does YAWC stand for?

warm turret Sep 17, 2022, 6:25 PM

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"yet another wars clone"

heady belfry Sep 17, 2022, 7:10 PM

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ozkriff is correct

heady belfry Sep 22, 2022, 5:18 AM

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I've hooked up an interface for AIs to the game. Now all I have to do is write an AI, which should be trivial, right?

heady belfry Sep 23, 2022, 7:07 AM

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as far as "me not making typos" goes, it's regrettable that "action" and "auction" are both very appropriate to be used in similar places in my code and are one letter apart.

gaunt shoal Sep 23, 2022, 4:03 PM

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make a game about aɹctions

heady belfry Sep 23, 2022, 6:05 PM

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gaunt shoal make a game about aɹctions

reading this as the ipa symbol and that is an unusual noise

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 4:17 PM

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out of curiousity, hows the networking in this set up? 👀 have wanted to write my own lil networked game for a while but been bouncing between options for a while and not settled on a single approach

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 4:43 PM

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gentle verge out of curiousity, hows the networking in this set up? 👀 have wanted to write m...

works pretty well but it's bespoke to a turn based game

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 4:59 PM

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heady belfry works pretty well but it's bespoke to a turn based game

o? how's that 👀

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:20 PM

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gentle verge o? how's that 👀

TCPstream stuff built on top of the standard library, more responsive action-based games probably want to use UDP

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:43 PM

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heady belfry TCPstream stuff built on top of the standard library, more responsive action-bas...

ah i see 👀 makes sense, is it otherwise just basically serializing the gamestate and not like commands or anything like that?

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:44 PM

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a bit more complex than that, yeah

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commands sent by the players are serialized to be commands on the server

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but server response to client is a gamestate

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:44 PM

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ah i c, and the client just views the current state as given by the server i guess?

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:45 PM

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yep

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there's some work behind the scenes to make sure the client sees only what it's supposed to see

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:46 PM

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i c 👀 any prediction or anything like that client side or is it just a simple "view current state" kind of thing?

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:46 PM

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no prediction, since it's turn based

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there's pretty strict information segregation to avoid any kinds of errors

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:49 PM

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makes sense 👀 cool, thanks for answering my queries yes, good luck with your game dogekek

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:49 PM

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ty, you also making a strategy game?

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:50 PM

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aye, i've got a turn based one (xcom-ish, but theme is south america with invading conquistadors) i've been working on on and off with a friend 👀

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:50 PM

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this setup might work for you then

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i can share more code details if you'd like

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:50 PM

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also native america lol, i meant south america 💀

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yeah sure, i'm curious if nothing else dogekek

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:51 PM

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so the game runs on its own thread and sends state changes out to hooked up local interfaces

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you can have one of these be online

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and it sends out changes through a TCP stream

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the client has a thread spinning to just recieve communications through the TCPstream

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in particular interfaces usually have cached views of the game so that they don't have to check over the internet/with the game thread to know the gamestate

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in addition, changes which aren't seen by one player aren't pushed to that player to help conserve bandwidth

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:54 PM

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so is the setup is the same when running in SP? like one thread just happens to be the server sending messages to your client the same way a remote server would

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:54 PM

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yep

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:54 PM

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neat

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:54 PM

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it's neat because it works for everything

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:55 PM

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is there a lot of hookup when you add a new piece of state to be synchronized or do you have that fairly streamlined? 🤔

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:55 PM

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pretty streamlined

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i've got a replay/diff system to make things easier

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basically the server sends the diff (basically the animation) alongside the new state

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and the client pushes the animation and new state to its own replay

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:56 PM

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heady belfry in particular interfaces usually have cached views of the game so that they don'...

so i guess what you're calling a "cached view" here is like, the read only gamestate of sorts?

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:56 PM

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yeah but a bit more complicated

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i've got a "Game" struct which is the canonical object containing all the information about the gamestatae

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and the Game generates "GameView"s which contain only the information a certain player is priviliged to know

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:57 PM

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oh interesting 👀

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ah right, a subset of the state i guess given what the player actually sees

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:57 PM

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of note the GameView contains a replay and the replay contains past gameviews which is a messy situation since I have to be careful not to have filesize blow up super-exponentially

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i might need to fix my types

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 6:58 PM

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fun recursion KEKW

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 6:58 PM

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hopefully it should not be recursive

gentle verge Sep 25, 2022, 7:03 PM

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hopefully not KEKW i'll come back and pester you if i have more questions or if i actually get to work on my own setup

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thanks again 👀

heady belfry Sep 25, 2022, 7:03 PM

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np

heady belfry Oct 4, 2022, 12:27 PM

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getting into the nitty gritty of actually writing AI code makes me want to do anything else

heady belfry Oct 10, 2022, 8:04 PM

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working on a bunch of UI/visibility stuff. surprisingly fun and gratifying

gentle verge Oct 11, 2022, 9:19 PM

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heady belfry working on a bunch of UI/visibility stuff. surprisingly fun and gratifying

seeing progress is free dopamine

heady belfry Nov 6, 2022, 11:37 PM

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looking to get back into this soonish. priorities are moderninzing the lobby code to allow for a dedicated server and actually get a stable playerbase

lime marsh Nov 7, 2022, 3:33 AM

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@heady belfrycan I dm you? I'm working on a project similar to this myself and I've never done networking before. Would love some more insight into how you've set yours up!

heady belfry Nov 7, 2022, 10:04 AM

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lime marsh <@177883786199957504>can I dm you? I'm working on a project similar to this myse...

go ahead, but my netcode is pretty ad-hoc

heady belfry Feb 3, 2023, 4:50 PM

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Hey remember this it's not dead i promise

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between grad school and mystery hunt i've been underwater on work on this so i've got to get back to aformentioned lobby code

heady belfry Mar 15, 2023, 7:18 PM

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many strategy games are 4X games: "explore, expand, exploit, exterminate." project yawc is a "5Re" game: "retreat, regroup, reinforce, recon, retaliate"

heady belfry Apr 12, 2023, 8:01 PM

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Reminder! I need playtesters! If you want to playtest, please fill out this form:

https://forms.gle/u2X3w6oCAtyuv5Se8

Google Docs

Alpha request form

For people interested in playtesting the alpha of Project YAWC.

heady belfry Apr 13, 2023, 8:35 PM

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[Playtesters Wanted!] Project YAWC - Turn Based Strategy

copper quiver Apr 15, 2023, 8:03 AM

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How much of a commitment do you need from testers?

heady belfry Apr 15, 2023, 8:19 AM

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as much or as little as you're comfortable with

heady belfry Apr 15, 2023, 8:20 AM

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copper quiver How much of a commitment do you need from testers?

just 1 or 2 multiplayer games is good

copper quiver Apr 15, 2023, 8:32 AM

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Multiplayer only though?

heady belfry Apr 15, 2023, 8:32 AM

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Yep

heady belfry May 22, 2023, 12:07 PM

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thinking of finally having a new, real name for this game

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the one thing i am certain of is that i do not want "war" in the title

heady belfry May 22, 2023, 9:56 PM

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candidate 1: "enfiladiers"

pros:

unique! no hits on google for the term
i like the connotations of military strategy

cons:

sounds vaguely pretentious
not a real word

copper quiver May 24, 2023, 5:02 AM

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I fear some people will struggle to spell it

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To me it has a kind of 19th century vibe, but the game itself looks more contemporary

heady belfry Sep 17, 2023, 9:58 PM

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i got campaign scripting working

heady belfry Oct 25, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Did some AI code. I now have a shitty AI.

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yes this is still alive

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it's actually so alive i don't have the time to post about it in here

near dawn Oct 25, 2023, 7:01 AM

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Any screenshots?

heady belfry Oct 25, 2023, 6:40 PM

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near dawn Any screenshots?

here's a campaign map

heady belfry Jan 9, 2024, 2:35 AM

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demo build demo build demo build aaaaaaahhhhhhh

heady belfry Feb 1, 2024, 4:21 AM

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https://junkmail.itch.io/project-yawc-public-demo

itch.io

Project Yawc Public Demo by junkmail

A demo for an upcoming turn-based strategy game.

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demo build

heady belfry Feb 26, 2024, 11:53 PM

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[Playtesters Wanted!] Doctrineers - Turn Based Strategy

heady belfry Mar 12, 2024, 10:24 PM

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[Playtesters Wanted!] DOCTRINEERS- Turn Based Strategy

heady belfry Jun 29, 2024, 10:28 PM

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this is extremely not dead it's just that as this project approaches kickstarter i have less bandwidth to shitpost about it here

heady belfry Aug 9, 2024, 6:43 PM

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KICKSTARTER IS LIVE

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/junkmail/doctrineers

Kickstarter

DOCTRINEERS

Turn-Based Strategy for the modern era.

heady belfry Aug 21, 2024, 10:58 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXqg0sDrq4

YouTube

DOCTRINEERS

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