#Vtubers
remote flower
weak carbon
X
smoky knot
Saba is now over 820k subs and her debut stream is over 2.3 million views
By end of month! 
hallow ravine
By end of month! <:KEKW:953140222135259186>
Your meme now. 
And getting closer and closer. 
hallow ravine
She just snapped after needing someone to talk to.
sharp pine
wha...?
candid sequoia
old gyro
theres one near me funnily
candid sequoia
Get me something spicy and ask ~~ for Kronii to spit in it ~~
candid sequoia
~~ because when she spits on the food you now have a piece of Kronii inside you ~~
sharp pine
candid sequoia
dont mind us
sharp pine
well details says each 85 bucks you spend before tax, tips, coupons you get a single cooling towel
bottle set is 20 bucks each
hallow ravine
weak carbon
hallow ravine
Empress of Vtubing, Kizuna.
weak carbon
wicked salmon
smoky knot
https://x.com/EddieHanTaiwan/status/1939544301832462357
This can't go wrong
winged haven
I have figs whos bigger 
smoky knot
Height. Yes.
rancid apex
X
prime ether
peak model
misty badger
X
They got pre-orders now, lol.
Bundle seems to be out of stock forever, possibly.
plain yew
Well im sure they will list the a separate bundle since that one has the hand signed postcard
weak carbon
no plushie yet :v
plain yew
Waiting on that too
Hope the sticker eventually comes to a store
Will be sadge if it stays an exclusive
Its such a funny design
candid sequoia
The best horse is gold ship right Axel?
plain yew
Urara
wicked salmon
Elia Stellaria will hold a meet and greet at Anime Expo with Mosobox http://youtube.com/post/UgkxZw71Gx5Qs_2t3sEYLXTSbsHfIwQbaPmc?si=idtwoaNM-Jq4F_8o
runic drum
Elia Stellaria will hold a meet and greet at Anime Expo with Mosobox http://yout...
Ewia!!
misty badger
She’s done it.
Someone mentioned YouTube Play Buttons and it got me thinking. Is she the fastest YouTube channel to get them??? Cuz holy shit lmao.
smoky knot
2.8 million views on the debut stream
In just under two months, the Saba channels has hit 1 million subs. Certainly, making it one of the fastest growing channels in YouTube, and vtuber, history
hallow ravine
Yep.
I got kinda sad she couldn't make it to 1 million yesterday, but I'm happy it was this quick.
smoky knot
I'm sure youtube is very confused as to how a channel shot up 500k subs in 3 days
hallow ravine
And man... 2k subscribers in 3 hrs, to seal the 1 million... that's wild.
Yes, when I woke up Saba was at 998 k.
runic drum
I'm guessing she can't stay gura cause legalities?
Like, company owned the model and name or something?
candid sequoia
She just dosent want to be thats all best not to speculate on it
wooden pulsar
Like, company owned the model and name or something?
Yes, hololive owns the IP/character
like how Idol (now ChromaShift) specifically mentioned they'd made deals to sell the IPs to all the talents that left, when they merged with Brave Group last year
gaunt estuary
Like, company owned the model and name or something?
Yes and its generally considered taboo to say who they were. Either for legal reasons or because the vtubers not comfy with it
candid sequoia
Dosent stop people though
People are starting to get way too comfortable spreading that
candid sequoia
Like my friends who aren't into vtubers know
wooden pulsar
I do kind of agree with what a certain person said, that it's a taboo that benefits the corpa more than the indie (unless they don't WANT us to know)
runic drum
The only vtubas I've really watched are Sayu, Rennie, and Rae
Chroniko for asmr stuffs
wooden pulsar
but I'm not going to start any arguments here
runic drum
gaunt estuary
People are starting to get way too comfortable spreading that
Started with dokibird
runic drum
gaunt estuary
EVERYONE knew who she was and got real comfortable talking about it
candid sequoia
Started with dokibird
Best not to dwell on it
wooden pulsar
Started with dokibird
I mean she basically waved a neon flag announcing who she was
gaunt estuary
It just became a norm for some reason
candid sequoia
https://youtube.com/shorts/C5hE7jX7HIw?si=Bmv4-ixFgT4RtXa5
Sunny 
wooden pulsar
she's definitely one of the ones who wanted viewers to know
candid sequoia
||for valid reason but let's not talk about it here||
wooden pulsar
Yeah, I'm not going into specifics on anything discussed
gaunt estuary
Lets talk about how weird it is we have 2 different legally distinct kettles
candid sequoia
Alot of vtubers have kettle laugh
weak carbon
candid sequoia
All vtubers are kettles
gaunt estuary
<:Susge:826287503802761236>
weak carbon
candid sequoia
Now which vtuber is best kettle for production of tea 
weak carbon
gaunt estuary
Bravely must hate kettles
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
She likes tea and is a ~~ clanker ~~ automaton so Ceci is a good pick
runic drum
gaunt estuary
plain yew
Saba has defeated Hyakumantenbara's record of reaching 1m in the shortest amount of days
The previous record was 13 days
Where the previous one set by Gawr Gura was 39 days to reach 1m subs on YouTube
winged haven
That's just an transfert 
3 youtube 1m plate
misty badger
Man, that’s so wild.
Really excited to see her plans for the future and any collabs and such.
wicked salmon
gaunt estuary
smoky knot
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu
hallow ravine
And Saba stream about the 1 million.
https://www.youtube.com/live/7Dj2_NQB7Jw
hallow ravine
Am I shadowbanned from Saba's chat?
winged haven
Kaniiiiii
candid sequoia
Am I shadowbanned from Saba's chat?
When there's over 100k people in chat everyone kinda is
60k rn but point still stands
gaunt estuary
with as fast as the chat goes how could you tell
smoky knot
Am I shadowbanned from Saba's chat?
Did you do something to deserve it
hallow ravine
Did you do something to deserve it
Nope. Just singing "saba saba saba", "paper boat"... the usual.
smoky knot
Nope. Just singing "saba saba saba", "paper boat"... the usual.
Paypah boat
Anyways, you probably did something sus
hallow ravine
paypah boat
I think it's youtube being youtube, because I saw that many other... kanikis... were not apearing on the screen feed.
smoky knot
Youtube is just dying a little. No big deal
winged haven
X
misty badger
Paypah Boat
jade patrol
That's just an transfert <:GuraDerPolite:844928604927295539> 3 youtube 1m plate
Funny meme about that, Spongebob related.
candid sequoia
weak carbon
smoky knot
https://fixupx.com/woolsuary/status/1940206286127472824?s=46&t=hi7d5pHlxcLpRL4wW...
Physics
finite delta
I remember when we thought it might take time to hit 1 million
finite delta
https://youtu.be/di8RFQyejhQ?si=uPaZtNgG-Elz_1uh
Shiiit
finite delta
Started with dokibird
I'd say it started with Coco, but slowly got more common since we went "Wait...why are we hiding them from fellow fans?"
Don't say it in related communities ofc, you don't want to bother the streamer themself.
Or the rare time they want to stay hidden, but I can't even think of an example.
finite delta
All vtubers are kettles
What are the pots, then? 
Gacha games?
finite delta
I think it's youtube being youtube, because I saw that many other... kanikis... ...
Naw, probably just the feed breaking from sheer volume. If you have a superchat or monthly resub message, you'll be able to tell right away (once it comes up in a month)
I caught up...
Paypah Boat.
candid sequoia
I'd say it started with Coco, but slowly got more common since we went "Wait...w...
Its at a point now where its not just other fans anymore tbh
finite delta
Its at a point now where its not just other fans anymore tbh
Yeah, fair. Youtube algorithm being infamous for surprising with it, also 
candid sequoia
Yeah, fair. Youtube algorithm being infamous for surprising with it, also <:sayu...
And you know stuff like this
||https://www.instagramez.com/p/DLhcNBMuiJJ/?igsh=enF1NG1jbGxvYjE5||
finite delta
The water got to them, turning their mind inside out.
Just like the quails.
Always gets ya.
Careful out there, traveller.
candid sequoia
Wait nope not deleted
hallow ravine
Paypah Boat.
You too Veri? Nice!!! Paypah Boat!
hallow ravine
Now that I saw the clip about Saba fake ID, I feel those 35 cm, are not 35 cm, but 35 yrs old. 
smoky knot
Paypah boat
weak carbon
X
misty badger
Paypah Boat
digital perch
candid sequoia
Kidney stones are very bad remember to stay hydrated
obtuse idol
Kidney stones are very bad remember to stay hydrated
Mhm
obtuse idol
https://youtu.be/acc8ZEfoE8w?si=TETk399-vt6Gqg1R
And then Bijou blames Pebbles
candid sequoia
Kidney stones the long lost cousins of the pebbles
candid sequoia
He's going crazy
plain yew
I think he found his favorite
candid sequoia
Oguri cap is a great choice
runic drum
digital perch
That was a really great stream
winged haven
weak carbon
candid sequoia
winged haven
X
candid sequoia
Please remember not to pull shit like this
I guess I wished too much for them "fans" to act normal
misty badger
FFS dude, that’s so fucking disrespectful and cringe.
misty badger
I guess I wished too much for them "fans" to act normal
It honestly sometimes feels like there’s more of these “fans” than normal ones, and it’s so unfortunate and annoying, lol.
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
plain yew
plain yew
6 was awful
candid sequoia
Yes
candid sequoia
It has 0 lore relevance
plain yew
The camera controls was shit
candid sequoia
5 atleast concluded the Wesker story
Glad they learned from 6, 7 and 8 are awesome
weak carbon
smoky knot
Not 6 though
6 would be funny though. That and 5
runic drum
6 was ok
I didn't much care for the super arcade feel of it
But 5, I mean come on, it's the best right? Homie punched a boulder! Not just a rock, but a boulder!
smoky knot
6 was *ok*
I didn't much care for the super arcade feel of it
But 5, I mean com...
Chriiiis
finite delta
hopefully she feels better soon
weak carbon
winged haven
weak carbon
X
weak carbon
candid sequoia
Yes
jade patrol
So...perfect for Sayu then?
weak carbon
winged haven
shell wyvern
X
winged haven
obtuse idol
Please remember not to pull shit like this
Agreed
weak carbon
X
smoky knot
Grill my meats
weak carbon
smoky knot
MariMari_EN is very girly
weak carbon
weak carbon
wicked salmon
candid sequoia
smoky knot
That's a lot of leg
stable pewter
hallow ravine
hallow ravine
plain yew
She really had shitty luck
She was also running the wrong banner for the first 30 minutes
Irys had a better time due to her possibly not caring about the meta
candid sequoia
Who's their favorites
candid sequoia
Its either Goldshi, Oguri cap or Tamamo cross right 
plain yew
Nvm, she had a better time cuz she whaled
Biboo used her free rolls to get her cards and character, Irys used Credit Card
candid sequoia
plain yew
Funny enough her slipstream skill is very useful for any that is not a Front Runner
And even so, in some cases Slipstream could be useful for a Front Runner if your behind a slightly faster jorse
weak carbon
wicked salmon
X
misty badger
Yeah the horse stream with IRyS and Biboo was a hilariously wild time, lmfao.
Hours spent just gachaing before getting to the actual game. 💀
hallow ravine
I'm on a convention in Mexico and... there's fan merch of Saba already.
plain yew
Well yea, Saba is very beloved in Mexico
Not as beloved as Goku but she slowly getting there
candid sequoia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytw11GLl59s
Shes doing this Karaoke for the brats trying to quit smoking
hallow ravine
Well yea, Saba is very beloved in Mexico
Huh! Well, I can believe it since I don't follow the fandom in Mexico, I'm more on the International fandoms than the regional.
plain yew
Gigi is scared to pick her favorite cuz of all the new ones coming soon, yet here i am, picking Double Jet as my favorite, just waiting for her to become available
weak carbon
winged haven
gaunt estuary
biboo now a whale like bao?
weak carbon
X
candid sequoia
rancid apex
Galaxy-tier bait
weak carbon
smoky knot
https://youtu.be/s50lRsvbnIo?si=IHedTuwDJwVfDG02
Women aren't strange creatures
weak carbon
weak carbon
saba should play helldivers just saying
weak carbon
nah her 1 million followers can do that :v
weak carbon
it is what it is :v
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
Just run 4 streams at once ez
weak carbon
I just watch Sayu first. And if she's not online, I go with Amai or Fleur :v
wooden pulsar
Yeah
My priority is always "Sayu first" 🤝
Amai and Tane are starting their own haglocke this week but it's during Sayu's hours 
weak carbon
X
weak carbon
weak carbon
X
candid sequoia
hallow ravine
https://fixvx.com/squchanvt/status/1942577059051528259?s=46&t=hi7d5pHlxcLpRL4wWr...
I... I'm curious and at the same time... I don't want to know more of SquChan.
hallow ravine
https://youtu.be/mXlfIj0rL5A?si=E4iiQ3F8QGAG3-Jr
Goes to another country. Eats McDonalds for breakfast.
candid sequoia
Kojima has already bought 3 pekora
jade patrol
The real Marine is hiding inside the plush, ready to spring free at night and pounce on her unsuspecting victim.
candid sequoia
Wut
weak carbon
weak carbon
misty badger
https://x.com/oimo_0imo/status/1942325887627931685
Me following over 50 indie VTubers...
candid sequoia
Man the youtube algorithm is just wonderful isn't it?
smoky knot
Algo kills mixing content on one channel
candid sequoia
"You want to do more than 1 of your hobbies? Yeah thats a no from us"
smoky knot
Tis why people make multiple channels
hallow ravine
~~The real Marine is hiding inside the plush, ready to spring free at night and ...
I welcome Houshou Marine to pounce over me. It's better die like that.
plain yew
aint no way she beat El Condor Pasa first try
while having no idea what she was doing
candid sequoia
weak carbon
candid sequoia
https://youtu.be/LYKyo07QRVA?si=gXDrvTIqCuSbswq1
Already posted
weak carbon
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
wicked salmon
gaunt estuary
Youtubes going after clippers again
Filians this time
Filian: "yo this is my clipper they have my full permission"
Youtube: "nah can't do it"
weak carbon
weak carbon
Filian: "yo this is my clipper they have my full permission"
Youtube: "nah can't...
someone make the patrick man ray meme out of that
gaunt estuary
Someday youtubes gonna get a legal notice from someone from this kinda thing lol
Happens every year i swear
weak carbon
too bad theres no other platform to place videos that matches the resources of youtube
not to mention youtube is owned by Google
so their servers are just unmatched
gaunt estuary
But like its effectively blocking someones employee from doing their job on your site, for the "safety" of their boss, then ignoring their boss telling them "this person works for me and has my permission"
weak carbon
smoky knot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213023376885682267/1392617132071714927/i...
Her and Pippa would get along
weak carbon
im not surprised :v
smoky knot
Get a collection of horse girls together and get them in a group to horse ride
weak carbon
feels automated response man
smoky knot
Youtube being youtube i see. The only way of getting anything fixed is by going off site because that just makes sense
Microwave
candid sequoia
weak carbon
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
shell wyvern
Matsuri sending food to a specific honse https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1943728943011668299?t=bp3z0BYv8VWyXUw5XAuAmQ&s=19
X
jade patrol
candid sequoia
https://youtu.be/CR33nWLvGv8?si=B_uTMEHYwZg2xTPG
What ending did Irys choose?
Bae chose the right one
plain yew
I dont know why anyone would pick ||Maelle|| when she is obviously in the wrong
smoky knot
Old Irys
wicked salmon
X
wicked salmon
Kanna Yanagi 2.0 will debute in less than 3 hours https://www.youtube.com/live/N2PIrRE2Lfc?si=src0yg8az2MCl11J
winged haven
whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUbEH0DvSM
candid sequoia
misty badger
On their tweet they said they already have carats ready to go.
I wonder if they mean the free ones or if they already whaled, lmao.
plain yew
On their tweet they said they already have carats ready to go.
I wonder if they...
What do you mean they? Fuwawa probably whaled, using Mococo's credit card
weak carbon
winged haven
The French
candid sequoia
Just like me fr fr
smoky knot
Maybe, I was too harsh on you
The French
smoky knot
And helped pay for American independence
candid sequoia
Rat incoming brace yourselves
ITS TETORIS
Ina did the design for her new outfit
candid sequoia
So thats where my Biwa went 
weak carbon
plain yew
I feel there's no such thing as a bad game, just that you at the time dont know how to make it into great content
Otherwise League of Legends vtubers wouldn't have people watching them, as a LoL player the game is trash
But some people make it fun to watch at least
hallow ravine
Ah, is good to hear those two gremlins.
candid sequoia
misty badger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XODzfZuunk
Another VTuber thrown into the rabbit hole.
misty badger
https://youtu.be/F9IwlgYf7Mg?si=0EoClsmGVOHPtn8_
Yeah this stream was great, lmao.
UMA-MOOSAH-MAYE
gaunt estuary
candid sequoia
40 min delay because her alarm probably didnt go off really in the spirit of her new outfit
obtuse idol
wooden pulsar
40 min delay because her alarm probably didnt go off really in the spirit of her...
Lmao she just started 40 minutes ago
winged haven
candid sequoia
https://youtu.be/AmmNcvZdd9Y?si=_TFf6l00T_jaxpXf
Gets new pj's outfit
oversleeps the very next stream
Absolute cinema
weak carbon
X
smoky knot
https://x.com/renniesaurus/status/1944896053309751551
That eevee looks... high budget...
candid sequoia
looks kinda a little tiny bit like Ame but its probably not
this one clearly has a jacket on their shoulders but ame always wore hers fully on
smoky knot
Wonder who she is
candid sequoia
Amelia Watson, hololive affiliate
candid sequoia
No posting them here
weak carbon
candid sequoia
wicked salmon
Trust me, it's not the craziest thing she has done
candid sequoia
FUWAWA NO DONT SAY THAT THE YAKUZA WILL COME FOR YOU
candid sequoia
hallow ravine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811293925569593364/1394744411241451592/im...
Oh nyo.
hallow ravine
https://tenor.com/view/kson-jiggle-gif-9643699427491853208
Ugh... Isn't painful?
smoky knot
<:SayuShock:1108726847249862756> Ugh... Isn't painful?
Just built different for content
smoky knot
Kanata could take her chat. Wait a sec...
weak carbon
weak carbon
digital perch
wicked salmon
I know about the "water" purifier
I was thinking about the soap tierlist. I don't think I have the reference about the water purifier
weak carbon
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
I was thinking about the soap tierlist. I don't think I have the reference about...
She used a water purifier to purify...
A human liquid
Then drank it
plain yew
X
plain yew
aint no way he went to a hotel that lets you use their batter and a waffle iron to make your own fresh belgium waffles
shell wyvern
plain yew
She Faker locking in Azir isnt acurate
that would either be Smyboli Rudolf, Opero O, or heck even Jungle Pocket
weak carbon
wicked salmon
X
edgy basin
laplus will never not be down bad
candid sequoia
plain yew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbUXCtTWgh8
For the most part her runs seem to have been decent
Watching Cali playing DD makes me want to play it again
weak carbon
misty badger
Holy shit Rolling Stone???
weak carbon
X
weak carbon
wicked salmon
wicked salmon
edgy basin
LMAO rip peko
gaunt estuary
old gyro
wtf nyanabanana graduating
candid sequoia
Yeah
That was announced last month
She pretty much confirmed she is gonna be back as someone else
plain yew
Its a fair occurrence as of this year
Graduating and then coming back as someone new
edgy basin
who
edgy basin
have never seen this smol lost child
candid sequoia
She did a few streams with Filian and ChaCha
edgy basin
ah that would explain i hate watching fillian so prob havent seen her
chacha is alright tho i dont see much of her solo content mostly collabs
winged haven
Its was is called a leech ? 
candid sequoia
Wha
edgy basin
was that english?
candid sequoia
Its seems like the question is if one of the people mentioned is a leech? Assuming in terms of only doing collabs for popularity?
Which is no for all 3
plain yew
Let's keep that kind of talk out of here shall we, this is a thread to share and enjoy anime women and vtubers
winged haven
digital perch
I was there when that happened
gaunt estuary
digital perch
candid sequoia
Ayame no dont play that
wicked salmon
wicked salmon
winged haven
weak carbon
gaunt estuary
candid sequoia
digital perch
https://youtu.be/nl0DD791ezc?si=fxuFl-rOXvltcY5W
candid sequoia
candid sequoia
weak carbon
weak carbon
winged haven
weak carbon
candid sequoia
Sonic at his peak loses to Bakushin with no training
finite delta
https://www.youtube.com/live/dcFlDKredTU?si=N4HR4UlUxgqr2Mjv
Oh? I might need to check those out, love watching rimworld
wicked salmon
<:Hmmm:863011559176273921>
?
wicked salmon
That's all
Ok
candid sequoia
obtuse idol
weak carbon
https://youtu.be/MwLbGcUMy6g?si=meOWYKyZJZfaUOCx
WTF!? They didn’t connect to charity!?
obtuse idol
smoky knot
so much for my year prediction
edgy basin
we know mousey is always concerned about others so i wonder how much shes not been paid out if the charity is missing half a mil
prime ether
so vshojo went from a kliq group to a scam group. glad sayu never joined em
weak carbon
honestly, any vtuber corpo at this point would want Ironmouse to be part of the team
marsh osprey
https://youtu.be/MwLbGcUMy6g?si=meOWYKyZJZfaUOCx
After I watched the vid my face was
They allegedly ( since its still in legal battle but I believe mouse ) stole half a million dollars from charity will probably put them totally out of business.
This kind of shit reminds me about the time when young bands got signed in the 70s and 80s who didn't lawyer every step of signing papers from lables and then the musicians made em millions and the managers which were from the lables took all the money, laundered em in offshore mailbox firms and gave the musicians 1 to 5 % back
weak carbon
finite delta
https://youtu.be/IoIQbK_ApLA?si=i1mO6p7s3SoSOs5C
I don't get it, we do only see at 60 fps, though
|| 
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edgy basin
yeah i was gonna say 60 is fine tho if your not sweaty gamer XD
cries in 4 year old pc
finite delta
Mine is hitting 6 soon, I know that feel
Specs hold up still, but parts might be dying now
finite delta
I think it's my CPU too, so it's agony to replace 
hollow shard
https://youtu.be/MwLbGcUMy6g?si=meOWYKyZJZfaUOCx
For the sake of perspective, Jirard The Completionist got rightly criticized due to withholding $600k intended for a charity linked to a health condition his late mother had succumbed to. VShojo, an agency which is a proxy of Twitch itself, had done nearly as much damage to a charity that was held dear by its brightest former talent.
edgy basin
i have my really old build from 2016 in the shop that they are piecing together but im saving up to buy a nice GPU so i dont have to worry for years and can use current tower for streaming/editing
finite delta
Or it's the motherboard itself
edgy basin
yeah i never remember to replace the thermal paste
edgy basin
yeah only so long you can run at those temps
hollow shard
On a lighter note and speaking of computers, I inherited my grandmother's desktop setup after she passed away in late 2022. One of her daughters bought a whole Skytech Gaming set to replace her very old computer, and Grandma really only used it for Scrabble and Solitaire, so she likely did the same for it.
finite delta
hollow shard
"I inherited my grandma's battlestation" is a sentence which still frankly amazes me to this day.
finite delta
Sad about the passing, but good to hear she got to relax in comfort while she could
hollow shard
Yep, she was 84.
marsh osprey
Tbh past 60 frames is just for competitive play only
If ya want the higher ranks
I remember way back with counter strike or unreal tournament 99 u just turned everything low to see better the enemy players cause they looked more like blocks
And had 200 frames lol
hollow shard
Same with PUBG later on
marsh osprey
Its pretty amazing that even the hw manufacturers took the 144 hz or frames monitors for optimal play in consideration
Which is by many a standard now
candid sequoia
People see and perceive frames differently some people will look at 60 and 30 and think its the same while some people will tell the difference between 60 and 55
candid sequoia
For me the cutoff is 45 frames
I dont have higher fps monitors so I can't tell above 60
marsh osprey
But its so interesting how times have changed
When I was a child computers where always behind the consoles like snes or ( only a very short time ) psx and n64 before tech got so cheap and catched up to outperform the consoles
Now the PC is the most fidelity platform and consoles always the less powerful option
weak carbon
although, its easier for devs to patch bugs for games on the console
marsh osprey
Well.... that is probably where games got WORSE BIG TIME
Back then u finished it thoroughly
Now its always fix it in 3 years
jade patrol
For the sake of perspective, Jirard The Completionist got rightly criticized due...
Yeah, Jirard was where my mind immediately went when I saw this.
pastel copper
I used to think I couldn't tell the difference between 60 and higher frames