Burglary and bacon

[buoyant canopy]

...

[fluid yew]

maybe burg.l is sending us to find him to get the secret last ingredient from him. telling us wendell has gone mad or something.

[buoyant canopy]

So Wendell is now the villain?

[fluid yew]

no, burg.L makes us believe he is

[buoyant canopy]

Why would we believe him after talking to Wendell

[fluid yew]

because burg.l wants the embiggerings thing

[buoyant canopy]

Unless... He was actually crazy?

[fluid yew]

we don't talk to him because burgl convinced us that he is mad

[buoyant canopy]

That's just shitty writing

[fluid yew]

so we "sneak" in. (well not really, but we don't meet him directly)

[buoyant canopy]

Meeting just to kick the s*** out of them doesn't sound exactly uh.... Very obsidian to me

[fluid yew]

and then we bring stuff back to burgl. he betrays us.

burg.l goes big and wendell comes in and explains stuff

like burg.l got infested or something

[buoyant canopy]

You are going off the assumption that the 4 main teens are mentally challenged

Lol

Nvm

[fluid yew]

The kids are children.

[buoyant canopy]

Extremely, extremely competent ones at that

[fluid yew]

and the game targeted at "all ages", so kids are the "weakest" link.

Not every story needs to be a masterpiece to work for the gameplay.

[buoyant canopy]

Either way, You're telling me we be convinced by burgle, to go steal an ingredient from Wendell, without even talking to the main science guy, just to give it a burgl?

That sounds stupid

[fluid yew]

Princess peach is no moron. She gets kidnapped every time anyways. Because the plot demands it.

[buoyant canopy]

It doesn't have to be a masterpiece, I just prefer they didn't go for the must straightforward generic excuses

[fluid yew]

Well, make a better suggestion.

[restive badger]

🍔

[fluid yew]

I don't claim to have thought everything through, nor do I need to.

[buoyant canopy]

Ok what about forcing every player into the final fight

[fluid yew]

how would you want it to happen?

[buoyant canopy]

Simple: A boss door

[fluid yew]

One goes off like "yo boys, bye! I go kill the final boss alone!"?

[buoyant canopy]

What did they have to completely rework the respawn mechanics?

Like what if your last auto save was before the battle

[fluid yew]

You get a "before endboss" save, like in every other modern game.

[buoyant canopy]

Yes but what if multiple players respawn during the battle?

[fluid yew]

You get a respawn point at the beginning of the level and at certain checkpoints?

Like in every game of the last 30 years?

[buoyant canopy]

Name one survival game that's done this

[fluid yew]

You are acting as if this would be something nobody ever had solved before.

Try conan exiles.

[buoyant canopy]

The main frustration would be having to give burglary and bacon a cocktail every time, Even after knowing he just turns on you

[steady gorge]

🍿

[buoyant canopy]

-___-

[steady gorge]

This is so entertaining

[buoyant canopy]

This is embarrassing, both me and him

Also I did not mean to call him burglary and bacon god

[fluid yew]

Conan exiles has group instances as dungeons and if you go "complete the game" you are DONE for. your character gets deleted (if you didn't know)

[buoyant canopy]

But the world still persists.

[fluid yew]

yes. but not your character. ; )

[buoyant canopy]

That doesn't translate very well into grounded

[fluid yew]

You asked for a game I told you one.

And we don't need to be "done", i told you that I would not do it that way.

[buoyant canopy]

So, let's start from the literal bottom. How the hell does Wendell get there?

[fluid yew]

I am just telling you that all your concerns have been addressed before.

[buoyant canopy]

And more importantly what hell kinda parasite could even be up there to serve as a "final boss"

[fluid yew]

Well, assume your boss told you "Waxen, we will make Burg.L the endboss". Now it is your job to fill out the blanks.

What would you suggest?

[buoyant canopy]

Hmmm

[buoyant canopy]

Have Burgl be used/controlled remotely by Ominent to cover up and ensure the main 4 tweens don't return to normal size for legal concerns

[fluid yew]

yes, yes. that could work.

[buoyant canopy]

But then what about Wendell?

Wendell can operate without Burgl

[fluid yew]

maybe he fears that the company is stealing his invention and may use it for evil and that is the reason he is gone into hiding?

with the last secret ingredient?

[buoyant canopy]

To be honest with the amount of time you can spend in the yard, I'm actually starting to doubt that Ominent cares anymore

Ominent*

[fluid yew]

Well, to be fair. The time actually stands still

[buoyant canopy]

?

[fluid yew]

we may get some holyday decoration but we never have seasons and since everything regrows you could argue that time is not really going forward

more like we get just more days for gameplay purposes.

[buoyant canopy]

Dude we are not bringing up the time is frozen debate come on

[fluid yew]

Not storywise. gameplay wise

[buoyant canopy]

Especially with their plans to add weather

[fluid yew]

do you see grass grow? ; )

[buoyant canopy]

...

An Immovable object meets an unstoppable force

[buoyant canopy]

No but it does grow back....

[fluid yew]

some player have several years of "days" played. by all account, the kids should have grown to adults by then.

but they dont

because the "story" demands that the game is acutally played within a few days or something.

[buoyant canopy]

Yes but then there is no urgency to the game, also by consequence removing any kind of motivation burgl has

[fluid yew]

please don't overthink this.

we just get as many days as we want. for gameplay and fun purposes.

[buoyant canopy]

Dude your the one who brought up time is frozen

[fluid yew]

You are trying to missunderstand me, right?

[buoyant canopy]

Ok this is getting absurd, how about we end up it like this-

Each one of us will detail a somewhat descriptive idea of what the final boss might be like, and then when the time eventually comes we'll compare how right we were

[fluid yew]

I told you, story wise it is like the whole adventure will only take a couple of days while the game itself will allow us to play as many "days" as we want.

[buoyant canopy]

Lmao speedrunners

Screenshot it as well

[fluid yew]

Also, "how right".

It is all about "i am right" stuff.

[buoyant canopy]

Something close

[fluid yew]

This was never intended to be a "competition"

I just wanted to toy around with ideas.

[buoyant canopy]

Two of the most common final boss ideas are burgl and Wendell, I just want to see how well this will age for both of our debates. So just get a tab bit specific k?

[fluid yew]

I don't care if they don't do my idea. I am very much so certain it will be nothing like it.

[buoyant canopy]

0_________0

what

Ok nvm then

[fluid yew]

I like ideas.

The more the merrier.

[buoyant canopy]

Burglary and bacon

That's all folks

[fluid yew]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-thats-all-folks-looney-tunes-the-end-gif-5945155

[buoyant canopy]

...This is the shittiest debate I've ever gotten into

[restive badger]

👍 🍔

[fluid yew]

Well, if it is any consolation, I too felt like it was a colossal waste of time.

[buoyant canopy]

I'm not even joking when I say that's literally the most conclusive joke to a debate I'll ever see, good lord.

[fluid yew]

Well, it is not my fault concepts like creative thinking are alien to you and that you treat everything as some sort of competition.

There was probably just a high misconception of what to expect.