Im building a B3 deck Center in deploing vampires and wiping permanents, is a Ragebaiting deck, I acept sugestiong and modifications 🙂
#Hatefull Vampires
half belfry
At the moment, it looks like the deck is moving into two directions: aggressive vampires, that want to stay on the board and become a big army. And then there is the idea that you want to wipe the board and have resilience, eventually taking them out because the vampires never seem to stay dead. Which direction do you prefer?
steady vine
At the moment, it looks like the deck is moving into two directions: aggressive ...
The second one i prefer
It's more fun than simply spawn things
half belfry
Then perhaps you can lean more into the aristocratsy side of vampires. Where they just love to die and live again.
steady vine
Then perhaps you can lean more into the aristocratsy side of vampires. Where the...
So what cards I run for that?
half belfry
I would recommend looking for vampires that have 'graveyard' 'die' or 'sacrifice' in their text box. (I assume you are somewhat versed in the advanced scryfall search option?)
steady vine
I would recommend looking for vampires that have 'graveyard' 'die' or 'sacrifice...
Not that versed but that can be solved easy
half belfry
Easiest thing to do is just going to the advanced search section. Put the text you'd like to see on the card in the 'Text' section. Select Vampire in the 'Type line' section. Select the colors of your commander in your 'Commander' section.
You could also look for 'vampire' in the text and not look for 'vampire' as the type. Because some cards that relate to vampires may not be vampires themselves.
steady vine
You could also look for 'vampire' in the text and not look for 'vampire' as the ...
Okey, okey
And the rest of permanents are going in the direcction i want?
blazing dragon
--waves-
half belfry
Hi Jonnyschweer
blazing dragon
@steady vine Could I suggest something like [[Vona's Hunger]] for cheap board contro;
brittle sedgeBOT
half belfry
And the rest of permanents are going in the direcction i want?
I would say they're not at odds with your plan. Not a big fan of Temple of the False God though. And perhaps you'll find that eventually permanents that care more about dying and coming back are more relevant as permanents that care about draining life. But, of course, vampires are known for being bloodsuckers, so who knows, they might fit in after all. 🙂
Drawing cards is probably also something you'll want more of in your deck.
blazing dragon
a few other card might be
[[Crippling Fear]]
[[Golden Demise]]
[[Harsh Mercy]]
[[Sparring Regimen]]
[[Spear of Helios]]
For some passive life gain
[[Tablet of the Guilds]]
brittle sedgeBOT
Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control get +1/+1.
, 
: Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
Legend speaks of the Sun Spear, the mighty weapon that can strike any point in Theros, even the depths of the Underworld.
blazing dragon
you could probably swap the Damnation for Harsh Mercy, you get to keep your own creatures.
half belfry
Ah, Harsh Mercy is kind of terrible against another kindred deck though, so it depends a bit on your playgroup perhaps.
I'm not a big fan of passive lifegain. It kind of slows the game down and often doesn't really get you closer to where you want to be.
Lifelink is a bit more powerful, both in gaining life, as well as rewarding you for attacking with creatures, which can also push the game forwards a bit.
Crippling Fear seems pretty nice though 🙂
blazing dragon
Crippling Fear seems pretty nice though 🙂
along with Golden Demise are (inexpensive) board control while keeping your stuff alive so it works like Harsh Mercy
for game options there's [[Silverquil Command]]
brittle sedgeBOT
blazing dragon
if you'd like to be a bit of a donk, you can pair Crippling Fear / Golden Demise with Rise of the Dark Realms
steady vine
okey, im going to see the cards and modifi the deck before anything else
steady vine
Keep up the good work
thanks man
blazing dragon
Plus Spear of Heliod is a lighter (more targeted version) of No Mercy but buffs your creatures
I do like you have Vona, butcher of Magan and Elandra the Dusk Rose, so you could (theoretically) can swap between the three as commanders
steady vine
I do like you have Vona, butcher of Magan and Elandra the Dusk Rose, so you coul...
when is better one comander over the other? (in the deck
blazing dragon
I think Dracula would be best as a "primary" commander with Elandra as a 2nd choice.
I'm just pointing out that there's the option of swapping between the three
steady vine
I think Dracula would be best as a "primary" commander with Elandra as a 2nd cho...
okey
blazing dragon
Then again, I do like picking a deck idea / theme and building around it, makes it easier to pick multiple Legendary creatures that I can swap between them
steady vine
I would say they're not at odds with your plan. Not a big fan of Temple of the F...
so what can i run instead of Temple?
half belfry
so what can i run instead of Temple?
A basic 🙂 that will always work
brittle sedgeBOT
Legendary Enchantment
: Exile target creature. Then if there are three or more cards exiled with Profane Procession, transform it.
Vona sought a conqueror. Mavren sought a savior. Both found what they sought . . .
Tomb of the Dusk Rose
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Profane Procession.)
: Add one mana of any color.
, : Put a creature card exiled with this permanent onto the battlefield under your control.
. . . resting in the splendor of the dead.
blazing dragon
Shimmering Grotto?
Crumbling Vestige?
Crystal Vein?
half belfry
is it whort runing [[Profane Procession]]?
Not a fan, that is 8 mana for a removal spell. And if it gets to stick around you can put 10 more mana in to turn it in to a land that you can pour 4 more mana in to get something cool. Bit too much of a distraction from your main plan most likely.
blazing dragon
The abilities of Profane Procession are nice, tough seems a pinch expensive
steady vine
Not a fan, that is 8 mana for a removal spell. And if it gets to stick around yo...
I was thinking the same, like the efects not the cost
blazing dragon
like Family Feud --DING-- SURVEY SAYS!! it's not really a good choice
steady vine
I think that [[Ondu Inversion]] is whorth to the deck
brittle sedgeBOT
Sorcery
Destroy all nonland permanents.
"At first rumble you'd best hold on tight and pray to any gods you still hold dear." —Nys Dal, Sea Gate trapfinder
Ondu Skyruins
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"It always seems so quiet in the aftermath of wrenching violence." —Nys Dal, Sea Gate trapfinder
steady vine
@blazing dragon @half belfry well most of the deck is complete but i need 5 more cards
I think i would add cards for drawing
blazing dragon
There's Font of Mythos and Holing Mine for card draw.
For some control, there's Arrest and Oblivion Ring
steady vine
Thnks
blazing dragon
welcome
brittle sedgeBOT
blazing dragon
As a thought [[Caged Sun]]
it's an all round boot to your deck
-- creature buff
-- mana ramp
brittle sedgeBOT
steady vine
As a thought [[Caged Sun]]
it's an all round boot to your deck
-- creature buff
...
That perfect actualy
steady vine
There's also [[Coat of Arms]] and [[Patchwork Banner]]
It's nice but maybe ill add something that gives mana ramp
blazing dragon
It's nice but maybe ill add something that gives mana ramp
--like a salesman-- Well then, do I have a card for you
[[Patchwork Banner]]
brittle sedgeBOT
Artifact
As this artifact enters, choose a creature type.
Creatures you control of the chosen type get +1/+1.
: Add one mana of any color.
With thistle, quill, twig, and beak, the finest artisans of each animalfolk society stitched unique quilts, patched together as a symbol of harmony.
steady vine
--like a salesman-- Well then, do I have a card for you
[[Patchwork Banner]]
Similar to Caged Sun, but it's needed anyways
blazing dragon
you get 2, yes 2, count 'em 2, copies of the same wonderful abilities
steady vine
you get 2, yes 2, count 'em 2, copies of the same wonderful abilities
The deck finaly has a body
blazing dragon
and absolutely nothing wrong just a blanket +2/+2 to all your creatures
steady vine
well i just Finish the deck, i will playtest it for changes
steady vine
and absolutely nothing wrong just a blanket +2/+2 to all your creatures
Well I make some changes to the Deck due to play test, In the two games I run, I get to a problem, that was the mana overflow, thats why I cut 2 lands and then add [[Altar's Light]] and [[Bleed Dry]]
blazing dragon
😂 The Bleed Dry is a wonderful addition. Perfect addition to the deck
steady vine
😂 The Bleed Dry is a wonderful addition. Perfect addition to the deck
It's cheap and helps against heavy creatures
blazing dragon
and fits ever-so-nicely into the blood-sucher deck ... I suppose you've successfully found a way to keep the theme of the deck
--chime sounds-- Achievement Unlocked: Theme song
steady vine
and fits ever-so-nicely into the blood-sucher deck ... I suppose you've successf...
Hehe niceee