#i would like some suggestions for cards for fish man

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gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
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and some overall help on structuring the deck

bronze canyon
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Is the plan to go Voltron?

fathom swan
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its clues

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could be an alternative win con tho

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i mainly wanna focus on clues

bronze canyon
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Ok, bant clues. And do you intend to draw cards with them, or use them as artifact tokens for other purposes.

fathom swan
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kinda both

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draw cards and able to get a load of them and use somehting like [[cyberdrive awakener]] to overwhelm

gaunt pollenBOT
bronze canyon
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If you want to sacrifice them, it can make sense to run some cards that make it more efficient (reduce activation cost and such)

fathom swan
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ye i have seen some

bronze canyon
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Ah, then you might prefer keeping them, and cards like [[Five Hundred Year Diary]] become relevant

gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
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also is it worth having back up no maximum hand size cards just in case my commander gets killed whilst i have lots of cards in my hand?

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oh yeah should prolly say i want the deck to be like 75 dollar budget

bronze canyon
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Nah, typically, if you have more than 7 cards, you can just discard to your best 7 and still be good.

fathom swan
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alr

bronze canyon
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Ok, I think there is a lot you can find in bant colors regarding clues.

fathom swan
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yeah i think i need more help structuring it finding cards shouldnt be hard i just dont really know what things to put in and what not or if i have too much or too little of a certain thing

bronze canyon
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Ok, so there is [[Rise and Shine]] to act as a secondary Cyberdrive Awakener.

gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
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i have that in my list

bronze canyon
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Sweet

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Now, these are ways to go wide with your clues. There are also some ways to go tall, with creatures that have a power/toughness related to the number of artifacts/clues/cards in hand. Or cards that provide such a buff.

fathom swan
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i have academy manufactor in my list aswell also peregrine took so tons of token making and then i can animate them into creatures with rise and shine or cyberdrive like you said

bronze canyon
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[[Nyssa of Traken]] and [[Senator Peacock]] are two cards that could help your creatures push through for damage.

gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
bronze canyon
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In case you go tall with something like a [[Broodstar]] or [[Thousand Moons Smithy]]

gaunt pollenBOT
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Legendary Artifact
When Thousand Moons Smithy enters, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may tap five untapped artifacts and/or creatures you control. If you do, transform Thousand Moons Smithy.

Barracks of the Thousand
Legendary Artifact Land
(Transforms from Thousand Moons Smithy.)
manat: Add manaw.
Whenever you cast an artifact or creature spell using mana produced by Barracks of the Thousand, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."

bronze canyon
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[[Inspired Statuary]] could make your clues tap for mana

gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
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is thousand moons smithy expensive?

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like irl

bronze canyon
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no

fathom swan
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alr

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do i bother with talismans or signets if im in green?

bronze canyon
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[[Shimmer Dragon]] would allow you to tap your clues for cards without sacrificing them

gaunt pollenBOT
bronze canyon
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Usually not, but if you have artifact synergies, you might

fathom swan
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ok

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also whats a good cheap land base for bant?

bronze canyon
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You can also use on-theme cards like [[Kellan, Inquisitive Prodigy]], and the slightly expensive [[Academy Manufactor]] for ramp

gaunt pollenBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Faerie Detective
Flying, vigilance
Whenever Kellan attacks, destroy up to one target artifact. If you controlled that permanent, draw a card.
3/4

Tail the Suspect managmanau
Sorcery — Adventure
Investigate. You may play an additional land this turn. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)

fathom swan
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im already ordering an academy manufactor

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card is way too good to not put in

bronze canyon
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Well, I do have a list of lands you can browse, best sort by cost. : https://archidekt.com/decks/19327300/nonbasic_lands_per_color_combination

Archidekt

Custom deck
Lands
(4) Abzan • (15) Azorius • (4) Bant • (15) Boros • (15) Dimir • (4) Esper • (15) Golgari • (4) Grixis • (15) Gruul • (14) Izzet • (3) Jeskai • (4) Jund • (25) Land • (3) Mardu • (4) Naya • (14) Orzhov • (14) Rakdos • (16) Selesnya • (15) Simic • (3) Sultai • (3) Temur

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There are also other commander options for this theme. But maybe you really like the fish?

fathom swan
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im up for other recommendations

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the fish man is the best ive seen and i like his abilities

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of at upkeep investigating aswell as no max hand size and being able to become really big

bronze canyon
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[[Sophia, Dogged Detective]], [[The Third Doctor]]/[[The Seventh Doctor]] with either [[Susan Foreman]] (is immediately your ramp)

gaunt pollenBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Detective
When Sophia enters, create Tiny, a legendary 2/2 green Dog Detective creature token with trample.
mana1, Sacrifice an artifact token: Put a +1/+1 counter on each Dog you control.
Whenever a Dog you control deals combat damage to a player, create a Food token, then investigate.
3/4

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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
Whenever The Seventh Doctor attacks, choose a card in your hand. Defending player guesses whether that card's mana value is greater than the number of artifacts you control. If they guessed wrong, you may cast it without paying its mana cost. If you don't cast a spell this way, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with "mana2, Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
3/6

bronze canyon
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or [[Sarah Jane Smith]]

gaunt pollenBOT
fathom swan
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those as seperate commanders or for the 99?

bronze canyon
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Well, I looked them up as alternative options for the commander you've picked. Not necessarily better, but different.

fathom swan
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ill just stick with fish man