yeah
#mxkale - vol. 2
glacial crystal
zenith wedge
I'd won the previous game though, so it balanced
glacial crystal
Tru
forest plover
trickery may not always get you the result you want, but it's almost always fun and Neat ™
zenith wedge
I have had better results than not with it.
But yeah, I just thought the terastodon was very funny
zenith wedge
I'm definitely getting stuck in too many deck ideas
zenith wedge
I need help cutting 2 cards from this: https://moxfield.com/decks/5cbz5_9F1EOVVImrBgTO2A
Yes, this is a bracket 1 deck built around the paradigm spells
And yes I know that the gamble is probably one of the cuts
zenith wedge
I had an opponent call Sanar a treasure demon in my 2hg (I'm exhausted)
glacial crystal
yeah i mean he's good at that for sure
zenith wedge
I am amused that I opened more copies of Shadrix than Mica
I got 3 Shadrix and 1 Mica
zenith wedge
So, different question. Should I be writing primers for my decks?
Or no because they're never complicated enough or finished enough
glacial crystal
So, different question. Should I be writing primers for my decks?
I don't suggest it. The reason I'm doing it is because I am spending such a significant amount of time with one deck, I'm using it as more of a way to ensure I've covered every option myself.
worn schooner
I don’t think it’s super necessary
(And realistically, how many people are reading it)
glacial crystal
It's a lot of work and a primer that doesn't get updated super often can be detrimental to others.
worn schooner
Generously, I’d guess 10% of the people looking at decklists take time to even open the primer
zenith wedge
I dunno, I just have a lot of people who look at my decks and go "I don't know how to read decks so I don't know what your deck is doing"
glacial crystal
if you feel like doing it, i would probably suggest just doing a quick writeup of mulligans, tutor targets, and how you win, and call it good there rather than going super in-depth
jovial nova
So, different question. Should I be writing primers for my decks?
My advice is that if you feel your writing brings a perspective you wish you saw more, you should put it out there. Primers are a part of the memetic conversation that surrounds decks, so its a way to influence the culture IMO. If thats something you want to do, then I think its worth it, they dont all need to be 15 pages long either.
glacial crystal
I think it's also reasonable that if you get the same questions every time you show someone a list, you might want to write the answers to those down in a short primer
just for your own sanity
jovial nova
Yeah for sure
glacial crystal
i personally love answering the same questions about the decks i play over and over because i love the decks a lot but for people who aren't me you might not enjoy that experience
jovial nova
Though thats probably fake news, since my experience is that content/writing drives more questions towards you lmao
zenith wedge
I mean, yes, but I'd rather actually get feedback from lists than just frustrate people by them opening, looking and giving the TLDR meme response as their eyes glaze over from being unable to read my deck.
Because that's what I'd definitely characterize it as
glacial crystal
yeah that can be a bit frustrating as well
especially if you're looking for help or suggestions, it can really suck because other people are not inside your brain
zenith wedge
I'm going to work on one of the Izzet lists this weekend.
I think
[[rootha mastering]] and [[sanar|sos]] are the shortlist
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Creature — Goblin Sorcerer
Sanar enters prepared. (While it's prepared, you may cast a copy of its spell. Doing so unprepares it.)
: Create a Treasure token. Activate only if you've cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn.
0/4
Wild Idea 
Sorcery
Search your library for an instant or sorcery card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
zenith wedge
Sanar is still shaping up as a combo metaphor for mixed adhd
Rootha is going to be a rework of Ashling
I like Ashling but she's just not feeling like she's doing anything special?
forest plover
I love ashling as a support piece
in the zone she's just a vineyard 🤷♂️
I'm building [[muddle the ever changing]]
torpid pewterBOT
last totem
I'm building [[muddle the ever changing]]
I should go back and fix my build, apparently the “has myriad” triggers stack so if you make non legendary copies of it you can get a bunch of myriad on it
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
I'm ok with that because I pointed out the interaction with [[stormsplitter]]
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
How many myriad do you want on it?
Because Muddle adds myriad as a copiable value right? and it should be able to copy copies and add more myriads
zenith wedge
in the zone she's just a vineyard 🤷♂️
Yeah, that's sort of been the feeling I've had (outside of the not being symmetrical)
zenith wedge
I got to work on 3 separate izzet decks this weekend
Oh @worthy marsh tagging you on this because you have River as a deck, are there cards from SOS/SOC you're putting in the deck?
worthy marsh
Flow State was one, I hadn’t looked closely at the other Prismari cards for her yet
zenith wedge
Flow state I added. I also added Sanar.
worthy marsh
[[advanced reconstruction]] is one I could see trying out
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Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
At the beginning of your first main phase, mill a card, then exile a card from your graveyard at random. You may play the exiled card this turn.
: Level 2
Whenever one or more cards leave your graveyard, this Class deals 2 damage to each opponent.
: Level 3
Spells you cast from anywhere other than your hand cost 
less to cast.
zenith wedge
I was looking at it
worthy marsh
Because milling off the top won’t interfere with our draws
And with a bunch of tuck cards from GY on the bottom of our library cards it triggers level 2
zenith wedge
But I didn't know about the price.
worthy marsh
Oh and [[Harmonized Trio]]
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Merfolk Bard Wizard
, Tap two untapped creatures you control: This creature becomes prepared. (While it's prepared, you may cast a copy of its spell. Doing so unprepares it.)
1/1
Brainstorm
Instant
Draw three cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your library in any order.
worthy marsh
Repeatable draw from the bottom and put back on top
zenith wedge
I hadn't thought about them and I probably should have
[[flashback]] and [[garrison excavator]] also were on my list
zenith wedge
Excavator I don't know if I love at 4 though
worthy marsh
Yea that’s not a lot of value for the incidental tuck
zenith wedge
I am trying [[wan shi tong, all-knowing]] but it has a tuck on etb
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
But 2 bodies vs 1 for ascend is a big difference
zenith wedge
Behold the irresponsible mana curve https://moxfield.com/decks/lCtDGPEsx0eOKFSIh-iqrw
zenith wedge
It's still goldfishing t6-t8 for wins somehow
zenith wedge
I know it can be better, this is a functional first draft
[[Lavaleaper]] + [[resonating lute]] = my basics tap for 3 for instants/sorceries
torpid pewterBOT
Artifact
Lands you control have ": Add two mana of any one color. Spend this mana only to cast instant and sorcery spells."
: Draw a card. Activate only if you have seven or more cards in your hand.
School styluses are just tools. Passion is a Prismari's true instrument.
zenith wedge
Oh I love it
Thank you!
zenith wedge
But when I talk about things I think could be better, like, the elementals in the top end
I would appreciate feedback from people though, there are points in the gameplan that feel vulnerable, mainly around t4ish
urban flare
I can look a little later today
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
OK, so it's at least more fragile than ancient and slightly more expensive, but non-g having a setup that gets you 3 mana per land is a lot
urban flare
mhmm
zenith wedge
I also had an idea for [[Arnyn, Deathbloom Botanist]] last night, speaking of mono-colored deck ideas
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
Quick mock up that has too many cards: https://moxfield.com/decks/9iEIRIkkQk2IqC7n6ui3ZQ
zenith wedge
Curious on whether people think the vibes are too oppressive
I worry because it's fundamentally a combo list
And I think they may vibes read as quirky on face value and cause a feel-bad even if I say it's a combo list
forest plover
Behold the irresponsible mana curve https://moxfield.com/decks/lCtDGPEsx0eOKFSIh...
I want to look at this and I love irresponsible mana curves
I have not had time 🤣
zenith wedge
LOL
It really isn't goldfishing as irresponsible, but I also built it in a way to potentially be able to make 3 mana from basic lands
zenith wedge
But I look forward to any feedback if you do have the time to look
worn schooner
I want to look at this and I *love* irresponsible mana curves
Have you seen the bs we’ve been doing with veggies decks? The curves are atrocious
zenith wedge
@worn schooner is anyone using leaper+lute there?
worn schooner
<@180801337947193345> is anyone using leaper+lute there?
Not sure what that means
zenith wedge
[[lavaleaper]] [[resonating lute]] = your basics tap for 3 for instant/sorcery spells
torpid pewterBOT
Artifact
Lands you control have ": Add two mana of any one color. Spend this mana only to cast instant and sorcery spells."
: Draw a card. Activate only if you have seven or more cards in your hand.
School styluses are just tools. Passion is a Prismari's true instrument.
zenith wedge
3 is a lot without access to green
zenith wedge
It depends on what you're casting
For Rootha or if you're running a [[dragonstorm]] list?
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
You can't just rely on having rituals in non-green
forest plover
Have you seen the bs we’ve been doing with veggies decks? The curves are atrocio...
What are veggies decks?
worn schooner
What are veggies decks?
Me and CollateralKaos have been toying with them for a while - we use some commander that functions as a 2 mana dork in the cz so we can cast spells like [[explosive vegetation]] t3 and start dropping bombs every turn from t4 on. Been chatting about them in #1495855498484777131
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forest plover
Oh nice
worn schooner
It’s been one of my favorite decks to play for a hot minute. It’s like mainlining Eáu de Timmy
zenith wedge
Well, playing through Rootha with husband, and I think it's probably b4
Because the extra combats + wipes make it play a lot like I'm chaining extra turns
I'm OK with that, so I'm not disappointed. I also talked about it like I do about b4 decks
So I need to tighten it up some
zenith wedge
@glacial crystal I'd honestly appreciate feedback on that front
glacial crystal
hi im pell
i can look in a little bit, i kinda just got into the groove writing the primer for the first time today
zenith wedge
Doesn't need to be right away
zenith wedge
I've updated Rootha with potential upgrades in the sideboard as well as a brief outline of how it wins and the current goldfishing rate.
glacial crystal
<@68916583912710144> I'd honestly appreciate feedback on that front
okay so what feedback are we looking for here
zenith wedge
After goldfishing the deck, playing games with my husband and talking about it with him, it's clear that the deck needs to move to b4, which it is closer to than it would read.
It already goldfishes between t6-t8 really reliably, which has it on the border on that metric
glacial crystal
right i read that, but what are the actual goals here, you said you need to tighten it up but what is wrong with it
zenith wedge
That it definitely tends to the t8 end and I'm concerned that I might be more glass cannon than I want
glacial crystal
oh that's easy to fix, if we're b4 we can speed things up as much as you want
why is rootha a sorcerer 
zenith wedge
Because WotC decided we need challenges
glacial crystal
that actually makes a lot of my suggestions a lot worse, i was going to suggest things like [[flame of anor]]
torpid pewterBOT
glacial crystal
but you can't even run this
1 mode on flame is really bad, and we're very low on creatures, let alone wizards, etc.
zenith wedge
There are 7 wizards, but yeah that's low to count on the modes
glacial crystal
so if we're looking at speeding up the deck, the thing i would consider first is how we're generating mana
rootha's 
which says to me we should probably be on Desperate and Pyretic Ritual
and probably also [[open the omenpaths]]
torpid pewterBOT
zenith wedge
So far I'm currently getting her out on t3
glacial crystal
by contrast I don't think we don't need stuff like seething song, although Irencrag Feat could be good if we have good 7s
since she doesn't care about casting a lot of spells, just a big one
zenith wedge
I do have mana boosters in this too
glacial crystal
So far I'm currently getting her out on t3
yeah, if we wanna put life pressure on more quickly, we wanna try to get that number as low as possible, and then start our spell curve there
because Rootha doesn't have a number she cares about, she just wants any instant/sorcery
zenith wedge
On the sideboard [[nivix guildmage]] can combo with [[rapturous moment]]
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Creature — Human Wizard
: Draw a card, then discard a card.
: Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"The only action worth taking is one with an unknown outcome."
2/2
Sorcery
Draw three cards, then discard two cards. Add .
Fireworks of all kinds fill the skies of Summitfest.
zenith wedge
Just because that's a weird newer combo
glacial crystal
that's a really solid combo you can run
i actually think that's probably worth running, mostly because rapturous is solid enough on its own and we want discounters
because while this deck wants high MV, it does not care if you paid it
im so sorry to be the pell to say this but [[goblin electromancer]] and [[ral monsoon mage]] and at LEAST ruby medallion are probably on the docket
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Goblin Wizard
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
The Jeskai find potential recruits among all walks of life, including other clans.
2/2
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell during your turn, flip a coin. If you lose the flip, Ral deals 1 damage to you. If you win the flip, you may exile Ral. If you do, return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
1/3
Ral, Leyline Prodigy
Legendary Planeswalker — Ral
Ral enters with an additional loyalty counter on him for each instant and sorcery spell you've cast this turn.
+1: Until your next turn, instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
−2: Ral deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two targets. Draw a card if you control a blue permanent other than Ral.
−8: Exile the top eight cards of your library. You may cast instant and sorcery spells from among them this turn without paying their mana costs.
Loyalty: 2
glacial crystal
because they're simply too good at discounting spells
zenith wedge
One of my wins last night was t7 cast treasure cruise for 2 + [[breath of fury]] getting the loop of 8/8s was just nice
torpid pewterBOT
glacial crystal
yep, breath of fury's a good combo for this
kinda godo hosty
oh
[[Baral, Chief of Compliance]]
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever a spell or ability you control counters a spell, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card.
"The echo of silence is music to my ears."
1/3
zenith wedge
in general I am trying to keep toughness higher, Ashling provides enough mana/selection that she felt safer but I wasn't sure if 3 toughness + the discount was enough
glacial crystal
another weird thing you could play is [[Font of Magic]], not because you plan to cast Rootha from the cz multiple times, but because it's a harder-to-stop electromancer
torpid pewterBOT
Enchantment
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each time you've cast a commander from the command zone this game.
Warnis had always felt a glimmer of potential within herself, flickering just out of reach. That night, as the cultists attacked, it became a torrent of power that was hers to command.
zenith wedge
I have disliked font a lot every time I've read it somehow
glacial crystal
it's not what i'd call incredible
i will be 100%
but the baseline is 4 mana to discount all instants and sorceries by 1 for what will usually be the rest of the game
zenith wedge
I'd rather run [[mindsplice apparatus]]
torpid pewterBOT
Artifact
Flash
At the beginning of your upkeep, put an oil counter on this artifact.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each oil counter on this artifact.
zenith wedge
Yeah, it's the unfortunate one
glacial crystal
oh
zenith wedge
[[rowan, scholar of sparks]] is one I've thought about but also fragile
glacial crystal
hey mxkale
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Planeswalker — Rowan
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
+1: Rowan deals 1 damage to each opponent. If you've drawn three or more cards this turn, she deals 3 damage to each opponent instead.
−4: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, you may pay . If you do, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy."
Loyalty: 2
Will, Scholar of Frost 
Legendary Planeswalker — Will
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
+1: Up to one target creature has base power and toughness 0/2 until your next turn.
−3: Draw two cards.
−7: Exile up to five target permanents. For each permanent exiled this way, its controller creates a 4/4 blue and red Elemental creature token.
Loyalty: 4
glacial crystal
[[longshot rebel]]
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Rebel Ally
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
Noncreature spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Longshot deals 2 damage to each opponent.
He rarely used words, but then again, he rarely needed them.
3/3
glacial crystal
3/3 gamer
weird creature type for the deck, but it's a solid discounter that gives a little bit of extra reach
zenith wedge
Longshot discounting all noncreatures is better though also still can die
glacial crystal
alternatively you could just go with the plan of "my discounters are cheap but low p/t" and grab stormcatch mentor
zenith wedge
[[colorstorm stallion]] having pseudo-prowess felt like it may make it more stable
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Creature — Elemental Horse
Ward , haste
Opus — Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn. If five or more mana was spent to cast that spell, create a token that's a copy of this creature.
Prismari students are never afraid to let their imaginations run wild.
3/3
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Otter Wizard
Haste
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
"Only novice mages burn their whiskers. So pay attention!"
1/1
glacial crystal
this one has prowess
glacial crystal
yeah
the other suggestion had was possibly thunderclap drake, but that's a 2/1
but it does copy a spell
zenith wedge
[[dirgur focusmage]] is the lower cost option I have currently
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Djinn Monk
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell with mana value 5 or greater from your hand, this creature becomes prepared.
1/4
Braingeyser 
Sorcery
Target player draws X cards.
zenith wedge
I thought about [[thryx, the sudden]]
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Creature — Elemental Giant
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
Flying
Spells you cast with mana value 5 or greater cost less to cast and can't be countered.
Even in their mountain fortresses, the Akroans have learned not to anger Thassa.
4/5
glacial crystal
we also for sure need some extra draw
and here's one that solves both issues?
[[case of the ransacked lab]]
torpid pewterBOT
Enchantment — Case
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
To solve — You've cast four or more instant and sorcery spells this turn. (If unsolved, solve at the beginning of your end step.)
Solved — Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, draw a card.
glacial crystal
you are PROBABLY not flipping this
being clear
but if you do, you're literally never running out of cards again
zenith wedge
Or I could just do [[artist's talent]]
torpid pewterBOT
Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
: Level 2
Noncreature spells you cast cost less to cast.
: Level 3
If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent or a permanent an opponent controls, it deals that much damage plus 2 instead.
glacial crystal
you could, it doesn't provide card advantage since you're not on breach or anything but it does provide selection
easier to flip but much higher upfront cost to get the discount
either way i'd be on at least 3 or more discounters over what you've already got
and i would for sure include that cool ass combo to make infinite mana
zenith wedge
[[haughty djinn]] is a beater with 4 toughness
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Djinn
Flying
Haughty Djinn's power is equal to the number of instant and sorcery cards in your graveyard.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
"I adore your outfit. It's so . . . rustic."
*/4
zenith wedge
I have a copy of [[magnus the red]] somewhere
torpid pewterBOT
Legendary Creature — Demon Primarch
Flying
Unearthly Power — Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each creature token you control.
Blade of Magnus — Whenever Magnus the Red deals combat damage to a player, create a 3/3 red Spawn creature token.
4/5
zenith wedge
But that seems winmore
glacial crystal
for sure
the thing with magnus is he doesn't actually get you started
he only comes in when you've already done the thing, somewhat, and says "let me put my name on the group project too"
and what he does is good but i think you can do better
haughty djinn is probably fine enough, i like my discounters cheap but you have goals that aren't mine
i would still probably be on baral though if you're worried about toughness
zenith wedge
It's a combination of probably wanting defenses and running, I think 7 things that sort of count as wipes
(in order I'm seeing in decklist): sunderflock, BA, chain reaction, ITE, Artistic Process, splatter technique, ashling's command
I think Ral>Baral>thunderclap>Stormcatch
For my rating of 2-drop reducers
glacial crystal
i think ral and baral are probably good enough
wait
you didn't rate electromancer!
😠
urban flare
Its last
zenith wedge
Yeah, it's after Stormcatch obviously. I think my brain pulled it from thoughts on this after WotC also left it out of the deck
urban flare
There’s 5 of these things and one has to be last…
zenith wedge
I already feel bad not having [[moltencore maestro]] in this but it's not a storm deck
torpid pewterBOT
Creature — Goblin Bard
Menace
Opus — Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature. If five or more mana was spent to cast that spell, add an amount of equal to this creature's power.
"My media? Fury and flame."
2/2
zenith wedge
And it doesn't play well with free cast
zenith wedge
I have setups where I'm making 3 mana per basic for instants/sorceries but that's not guaranteed
And more often than not that's probably just a crackle with power attempt
glacial crystal
we can make it higher hahahahAHAHAHA
high tide
speaking of, you've got a lot of space M
you're on 40 lands
zenith wedge
39
zenith wedge
I'd need to pump draw a lot more and/or grab rhystic
glacial crystal
correct
you honestly don't need rhystic here
you do not use the cards that well, as stupid as it sounds
zenith wedge
LOL
glacial crystal
rhystic is at its best when:
- cards are cheap
- more than one person has rhystic
zenith wedge
No, it doesn't sound stupid
glacial crystal
if you aren't in those situations you dont need it
zenith wedge
But I'm already drawing 2-4 cards per turn after t4/t5
glacial crystal
which is why i suggested Case
zenith wedge
But I am also really only at most double spelling
glacial crystal
yeah
now notably, we can run cheaper spells in this deck
it feels wrong, i am aware
there is nothing here that says we can't run efficient cards too
she only cares about the highest MV, and only on your turn
zenith wedge
I'm not that precious about this as I feel you might think I am 😅
glacial crystal
it is time for pell's favorite game: What's That Rate, where we determine the actual rate spells have for mana vs effect
oh i was not going to be kind on this
i am taking a hacksaw to this if you ask me for advice
that's what im good at and im not gonna pretend otherwise
glacial crystal
alright let's start with sorceries because i think these are worse than your instants
no offense meant here, but you included a lot of things in sorceries that i think we can do better on
zenith wedge
None taken
glacial crystal
Crackle with Power is 5 mana deal 5 damage to 1 creature, but have you considered [[Shellshock]]
torpid pewterBOT
Instant
For each opponent, choose up to one target creature that player controls. Shellshock deals X damage to each of those creatures. You create a Mutagen token for each creature dealt damage this way. (They're artifacts with ", , Sacrifice this token: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. Activate only as a sorcery.")
zenith wedge
Crackle goes to face
glacial crystal
that's 5 mana deal 5 damage to face
i forgot, it's actually 1 target
[[lightning axe]]
torpid pewterBOT
Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a card or pay 
.
Lightning Axe deals 5 damage to target creature.
Spirits disturbed by ghoulcallers become geists driven by restless anger.
zenith wedge
[[crackle with power]]
torpid pewterBOT
glacial crystal
yeah, the fact that you get 1 target for this if x=1 is really rough
and the rate does not get better with more mana spent
zenith wedge
It's a card I'm only casting if x=3 at minimum
glacial crystal
that's fair, it's an exsanguinate but you need to be paying 11 mana
if we include an infinite mana combo, having an outlet for it is fine
im just saying the rate on this card otherwise is Not Good
zenith wedge
Rapturous or mana geyser are the big infusions
glacial crystal
yeah
zenith wedge
Or if I do the 3 mana basic taps
glacial crystal
i would personally not include this without a way to make x=8
i think popping everyone for 15 is nice but it does nothing if nobody's dying from it
just a consideration, i'd run the vizix guildmage thing if you're on this, or some other infinite mana combo like hullbreaker loops
and otherwise i think there are better ways to pressure opponents
one thing i like about b4 is that any turn, someone could cast a spell that just kills us from hand
and being able to participate in that is really nice
moving past Crackle since I think I've driven the point home enough
Rousing Refrain, no real notes, this does eventually just generate 5ish mana every 3 turns
it's a little slow but we care about the MV of our rituals, this is a 5MV spell you can cast for 2, it's fine
it absolutely WILL telegraph when you're going off though
glacial crystal
i just don't think you have creatures worth copying that much, but you can copy lavaleaper with flashback and that's based
if you're unsure about it we're for sure cutting it then
that's how we do here
zenith wedge
I just wanted to highlight it
glacial crystal
that's important though
if you're not sure about it, going into cuts, we for sure should not be on it
zenith wedge
[[will of the temur]] has played great though, fwiw
torpid pewterBOT
glacial crystal
well yeah because it's 6 mana make a 4/4 draw 4 cards
zenith wedge
At minimum if Rootha is out anyway
But I made a copy of my husband's [[tocasia's welcome]] which was fun
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glacial crystal
yeah
i think ill-timed is for sure going to blow up your own board but this might be the one and only time i say that card's kinda solid
zenith wedge
No, that card has actually felt great, and it's low enough I can cast it before even trying to establish a board
It's part of the reason that higher toughness has mattered though to try and sculpt a discard to not wipe my stuff
glacial crystal
yeah
glacial crystal
i think rite of replication is probably not great here overall but it do be making 5 copies for 9 mana
zenith wedge
It also can make copies of opponents' creatures
glacial crystal
the thing that is a little rough is like, the best thing to clone for you is generally lavaleaper
but paying 9 mana means you probably aren't getting immediate use out of it
glacial crystal
right but a lot of those are cards, and cards are not our main hangup
zenith wedge
[[tanufel rimespeaker]]
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glacial crystal
because we only cast 1 or 2 spells a turn, it's less valuable to have a lot of copies of something that draws cards
especially since we're not on free countermagic, or really countermagic at all
we kinda only need to draw 3ish cards a turn to keep pace, right?
so 5 copies of something that draws a card, especially if we already have one, seems overkill compared to something like maybe [[irenicus's vile]]
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zenith wedge
I've seen a few that are irenicus + mirrorform for copies of rootha
glacial crystal
since this will let you use a second copy of your commander, Sanar, or the legendary discounters
zenith wedge
[[mirrorform]]
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glacial crystal
yeah, not a bad plan, you then make N 6/6 elementals with flying and haste
which seeems like a very reasonable way to win
i also think irenicus's is just a better card overall than rite of replication in a gameplan where you're not doing that
mirrorform can be a little dead in hand, though
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zenith wedge
it doesn't have the downside of giving opponents rootha
because they don't get the spell trigger
And it stops their stuff from flying
glacial crystal
that's another solid option, although it could be weird to actually play with
zenith wedge
The problem is what's the boardstate I need for it to work
glacial crystal
i would say make the simpler swap of the clone, we see if we need more ways to win (i doubt it) and revisit?
i dont think this deck really has that much of an issue converting a boardstate into a win
so more ways to do that seem less valuable to me
zenith wedge
Yeah
It's more realizing that it doesn't have the downside that I"ve seen nanogene have in other decks that have tried to use it
glacial crystal
yeah fair enough
continuing down, Artistic Process is fine, the rate is kinda not great and i would compare it to [[fiery confluence]] but not bad enough not to include it
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zenith wedge
Process being able to make a separate elemental is the important mode
glacial crystal
i like that it doesn't hit your stuff and it makes a dude
zenith wedge
for breath of fury
glacial crystal
not saying to run confluence, i'm saying i think it's probably about the same
zenith wedge
Yeah, I'm just explaining the math of why I went with it
glacial crystal
ye
it's fine, no real notes there
baral's expertise is next and i do need to get out my hacksaw on this one
we actually don't have that many things we can cast off of this
zenith wedge
Breath needs you to have at least one creature that will get through on the board and a trigger to make an elemental on the start of combat
I have 26 hits for Baral
glacial crystal
are they all actual hits for baral though
all of your artifacts, 2 of your enchants (although i think you probably don't want to use this to freecast breath of fury)
chain reaction is an atrocious baral's hit
ill-timed is not great off of it for similar reasons, not as bad as chain reaction though
kindle, for everything i've said, is a good baral hit
zenith wedge
Freecasting breath is actually a reasonable cast with it
As long as I already have another flyer on the board that can hit + rootha
glacial crystal
yeah, the concern is just going down 2 cards to do it, but it's probably fine too
you do need to actually have a way to remove flyers
zenith wedge
Rootha being 4 means I can bounce her if I need an additional target or resetting a rock
But rock reset is one of the worst options
glacial crystal
just looking at noncreatures, i'm counting 11, maybe 12 hits
because a lot of these are "legal to cast" but not something you ever want to throw down off of baral's
fwiw most of your creatures 4 or below are fine to put in
again i probably wouldnt use it to put in lavaleaper having paid extra mana, because you wanna get the benefit of that immediately
it's fine, we've got like 20ish solid hits, i think you can maybe do better but not better enough that it's worth getting rid of
and as we go through that number will probably go up because i stay out here trimming mana value
-# please hold while i lay facedown and contemplate my continued existence 
zenith wedge
Candlekeep is one I look at
zenith wedge
FWIW I'm working on a scratch pad list right now: https://moxfield.com/decks/spDeW0p5cEiAkzD9F2Ziaw
I'm making changes on there and then will make final changes in the other list
zenith wedge
[[season of the bold]] that's what should be in here
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Sorcery
Choose up to five 
worth of modes. You may choose the same mode more than once.
— Create a tapped Treasure token.
— Exile the top two cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play them.
— Until the end of your next turn, whenever you cast a spell, Season of the Bold deals 2 damage to up to one target creature.
glacial crystal
yes
zenith wedge
The one funny thing of the Rootha list is that of the various online checkers 2/3 of them gave it a rating of being bracket 1 and the last said bracket 3.
And I get why they said those but it's interesting wtih the division
zenith wedge
[[Narod the beige flower]] I'm overly tempted by this
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jovial nova
Affinity commander?
zenith wedge
Reanimation too
jovial nova
Warp blink shenans as well
zenith wedge
Warp are often pretty similar cost to mv
jovial nova
[[quantum riddler]]
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Creature — Sphinx
Flying
When this creature enters, draw a card.
As long as you have one or fewer cards in hand, if you would draw one or more cards, you draw that many cards plus one instead.
Warp
4/6
zenith wedge
Yeah, so it goes from 4->5
zenith wedge
[[Abuelo's awakening]] [[ghost vacuum]] stuff is also interesting
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Artifact
: Exile target card from a graveyard.
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Put each creature card exiled with this artifact onto the battlefield under your control with a flying counter on it. Each of them is a 1/1 Spirit in addition to its other types. Activate only as a sorcery.
zenith wedge
Can do abuelo x [[omniscience]]
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jovial nova
Honestly when I mentioned the blink warp stuff I was kind of imagining a whole goryo's vengeance package alongside it
zenith wedge
nod
jovial nova
You've reminded me I was supposed to be brewing omni-acerak combo
I wonder if [[scion of draco]] is worth.
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Artifact Creature — Dragon
Domain — This spell costs less to cast for each basic land type among lands you control.
Flying
Each creature you control has vigilance if it's white, hexproof if it's blue, lifelink if it's black, first strike if it's red, and trample if it's green.
4/4
jovial nova
Yeah I think so
zenith wedge
Or [[Hasheton]]
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jovial nova
But beign castable is nice, and a 12/12 flying "your commander has hexproof" seems considerable
zenith wedge
[[Hashaton]]
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Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
Whenever you discard a creature card, you may pay . If you do, create a tapped token that's a copy of that card, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
"I served the Scarab in an age long past, in another form, under another name. No matter their visage, I serve."
1/3
jovial nova
All three of the keywords seem great for that commander actually
zenith wedge
If I can discard with that out it's a 12 lifelink
zenith wedge
[[Chromium, the mutable]] also funny
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zenith wedge
Yes, base is a 7 mana 7/7 but becomes a creature with unblockable that will still do 7
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Commandees I brought tonight:
[[Hans Eriksson]]
[[Neyith of the Dire Hunt]]
[[Rootha, mastering the moment]]
[[Sanar, unfinished genius]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever one or more creatures you control fight or become blocked, draw a card.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may pay 
. If you do, double target creature's power until end of turn. That creature must be blocked this combat if able. ( can be paid with either or 
.)
3/3
Legendary Creature — Goblin Sorcerer
Sanar enters prepared. (While it's prepared, you may cast a copy of its spell. Doing so unprepares it.)
: Create a Treasure token. Activate only if you've cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn.
0/4
Wild Idea
Sorcery
Search your library for an instant or sorcery card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
zenith wedge
Sanar's draft list: https://moxfield.com/decks/C0KCLAh_-0-yHHLGnZ_r9A
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Rootha won, had a very good game with her where I had to use [[complete the circuit]] and [[chain reaction]] during the Dihada player's upkeep to remove Alesha
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Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
You may cast sorcery spells this turn as though they had flash.
When you next cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy that spell twice. You may choose new targets for the copies.
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I was able to win through [[haze of rage]] after he gained 120 life in an alpha strike to take out the person playing Mass of Mysteries
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Sorcery
Buyback (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.)
Creatures you control get +1/+0 until end of turn.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn.)
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zenith wedge
I just wanted to highlight this list I made that hasn't worked yet but it is weird and oddly enjoyable. https://moxfield.com/decks/KN3Rrn86eE-NUaP8fto2iw
zenith wedge
@lunar maple I started poking around with the Tellah idea and realized that self-sac counterspell creatures are a way to build in protection
lunar maple
That makes sense
zenith wedge
zenith wedge
I honestly started considering a B3ish Rog/Thras build using [[breakthrough]] and coco the other day
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zenith wedge
[[break out|mkm]]
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zenith wedge
Just a peak "dangerous little guys" deck
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It's a weird card, it finally started showing up in decks over the weekend
I poked at a starting brainstorm over lunch. https://moxfield.com/decks/JJ1i7niIPUSsiaHWtfsZOA
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I got most of my monthly quota of wins last night because I won 2/3 games. Almost won the third as well.
Also I don't feel like I lost because I got to teach people things about Affinity
zenith wedge
https://moxfield.com/decks/GZBJRA3EUUGTzBCCHzE8KA got to come back after several years not being played for some reason.
zenith wedge
The closest I can think is just a lot of other commanders came out without many clear upgrades for them
zenith wedge
I need to make a cut in this list for [[tannuk, ensign]] https://moxfield.com/decks/KN3Rrn86eE-NUaP8fto2iw
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jovial nova
land
jovial nova
I just always say land
forest plover
FWIW I'm working on a scratch pad list right now: https://moxfield.com/decks/spD...
what are [[omni-changeling]] [[hearth elemental]] and [[eddymurk crab]] doing for you?
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Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
You may have this creature enter as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except it has changeling.
0/0
Creature — Elemental
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the number of cards in your graveyard that are instant cards, sorcery cards, and/or have an Adventure.
4/5
Stoke Genius
Sorcery — Adventure
Discard your hand, then draw two cards. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)
Creature — Elemental Crab
Flash
This spell costs less to cast for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
This creature enters tapped if it's not your turn.
When this creature enters, tap up to two target creatures.
5/5
forest plover
overall list is very sick, I wanna try something like it myself
zenith wedge
So, Rootha was made by adjusting the Ashling list I did with part of the precon.
Those 3 help cast [[sunderflock]]
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Creature — Elemental
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the greatest mana value among Elementals you control.
Flying
When this creature enters, if you cast it, return all non-Elemental creatures to their owners' hands.
5/5
zenith wedge
Which won't bounce Rootha's tokens
zenith wedge
I'm having a weird thing where, I brought 3 decks with me tonight that are all bracket 3, and I think they're pretty close together overall. But my husband thinks they're wildly different
And I'm not sure how I feel about that
Because it means either his or my power estimations is really out of whack
The three decks:
https://moxfield.com/decks/pbL_1z-H4k62up5bxVZOhw
https://moxfield.com/decks/QcaR4nwF7UirX0q6LqB0kw
https://moxfield.com/decks/nrMDYEWkC0mgWv_njGKhYw
And he puts them in that order of power, highest to lowest
Do other people in here generally agree with him on that?
Like, I think Kotis is really explosive, but I don't know that it's good
zenith wedge
Updated Kotis, I realized it was really out of date.
zenith wedge
Kotis won but through a very silly way
I had [[tifa lockhart]] out, opponent on [[hope estheim]] milled 13 lands
zenith wedge
Milled me for that many
I lucked out and found aftermath analyst
My husband had [[Dueling grounds]] out
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zenith wedge
Tifa deleted them from 170 life...
My husband killed the other opponent and I got him on the Crack back with 3 landfall triggers
zenith wedge
@hot plank I know this is too many cards but it's sort of my first thoughts on where i'd take the Zada. https://moxfield.com/decks/HC8sitoLQEOg8Z95PKcKJA
hot plank
<@433947410960744450> I know this is too many cards but it's sort of my first th...
Before I take a peek did you have a general theme/gameplan?
Like intended one
zenith wedge
"A deck that works based on my knowledge of zada and feather decks"?
I wasn't going goblins just because I just did a goblin storm deck with Sanar
hot plank
definitely has the autoincludes of zada
Personally I'm not huge on a lot of rocks in zada and prefer creautre dorks like sunset strikemaster and even [[pallidium myr]] over arcane sig and thought vessel
Eldritch Immunity is a good protection piece but there aren't that many colorless sources of mana available in the deck
Personally I prefer [[zoyowa's justice]] to chaos warp because it benefits Zada more, and is slightly less expensive.
Leyline of resonance is just one extra copy and if it isnt in your opening hand you probably will never cast it
instead of/in addition to impact tremors, I highly recommend [[weftstalker ardent]] since it cares about artifacts and creatures, and is a creature itself.
totally a solid deck though 🙂
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Artifact Creature — Myr
: Add 
.
The myr are like the Glimmervoid: blank canvases on which to build grand creations.
2/2
Creature — Drix Artificer
Whenever another creature or artifact you control enters, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent.
Warp (You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
2/3
zenith wedge
Yeah, I'm not sold on all of them either in terms of rocks. Tablet of discovery is just really really good
So many people run thought vessel though
Thoughts on breech in Zada?
[[magmablood archaic]] is one that I think is interesting that I wasn't seeing people including
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hot plank
Thoughts on breech in Zada?
underworld breach?
I just dont see myself casting magmablood
zenith wedge
I just thought it was interesting (the archaic)
jovial nova
Thoughts on breech in Zada?
Probably a top card. Vessel is just generally popular i think
hot plank
I just thought it was interesting (the archaic)
it is I just dont play pump zada
Vessel is good if you aren't running breach and dont win on your turn after drawing 15 cards
Underworld Breach enables Zada so hard. Especially her best card witch's mark
jovial nova
I think zada is usually winning if shes going off and I dont love 2 mana rocks in zada either
hot plank
usually, yes, but it is easy to brick
zenith wedge
There's also [[dawning archaic]] that might be easier to get for free than not
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Legendary Creature — Avatar
This spell costs less to cast for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
Reach
Whenever The Dawning Archaic attacks, you may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead.
7/7
hot plank
especially without a lot of decent rate creature makers
if you're top decking 7 with 15 card draw/impulse draw spells in your deck (one which you already used), it is very possible you just... dont get another
jovial nova
Which is why i would rather be on another draw spell instead of a rock usually
Or a ritual to extend the line
zenith wedge
[[eldritch immunity]] was another card I didn't see a lot of people using, but it seemed really flexible
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Kindred Instant — Eldrazi
Target creature you control gains protection from each color until end of turn.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
The hail of arrows flew straight and true. But as the arrows got close, they simply ceased to be.
zenith wedge
Can let you push damage through or escape damage effects
jovial nova
Eldritch immunity is great and I can never cast it when I need
zenith wedge
The other thing though is trying to fit in graveyard hate
Unless it's just racing it
hot plank
16 is the amount of card draw/impulse draw i run because the rest arent good enough
hot plank
[[eldritch immunity]] was another card I didn't see a lot of people using, but i...
Mostly because like, 5 sources in the whole deck let you cast it
zenith wedge
Yeah, I thought about including [[emberheart challenger]]
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hot plank
Im more of a [[evendo brushrazer]] or even [[professional facebreaker]]
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Creature — Insect Warrior
Whenever you sacrifice a nontoken permanent, exile the top card of your library.
During your turn, as long as you've sacrificed a nontoken permanent this turn, you may play cards exiled with this creature.
, Sacrifice a land: Add .
"Progress always has a price."
2/2
zenith wedge
I'm not buying or floating another facebreaker atm
zenith wedge
The mouse was because it's additional draw when it gets targeted by the zada spell copy
hot plank
Yeah
Pfb is mostly for the treasures but gets you out of a jam if you have a ton of treasures and no draw
Me omw to use the bottom text of PFB (nobody does this)
zenith wedge
Yeah, I just only have 3 4 of them and floated one into Jaws recently
My store doesn't allow proxies
zenith wedge
Just pulling this here @forest meteor so the thing that got me excited about the idea of Arnyn with the Eldrazi was realizing the interaction with [[petrified hamlet]] and being able to make my swamps all tap for colorless
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Land
When this land enters, choose a land card name.
Activated abilities of sources with the chosen name can't be activated unless they're mana abilities.
Lands with the chosen name have ": Add ."
: Add .
forest meteor
hot plank
"Unless theyre mana abilities"
Wotc hates me
zenith wedge
It's really cool though that it can stop channel lands
hot plank
That is cool
zenith wedge
It's being used in Amulet TItan for that reason
hot plank
It cant stop gaeas 🙁
zenith wedge
No
hot plank
Booo
zenith wedge
It can stop stripmine, maze of ith, etc.
hot plank
Yea
zenith wedge
But it's sort of a weird interesting ramp option for any like, really big mana mono-colored deck
Because there are effects that double up mana generation for colorless
That they made for Eldrazi
A very weird mld option for B with [[break the ice]] though
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Sorcery
Destroy target land that is snow or could produce .
Overload 
(You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
zenith wedge
... omg I just realized [[captain kirk, boldly going]] may be the best scroll rack, brainstorm commander ever...
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zenith wedge
Because he's and/or for the search it means you can attack with him, get something from the GY and still shuffle
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zenith wedge
Yesterday
Basically WotC has it in a trade show display
So even though it's not been "released" to people it's counted as spoiled because WotC is using it in displays
I think it was a few days before but yesterday was when it was sourced and Scryfall added it
At the Licensing Expo
Just the first sourced one I found with a google
zenith wedge
Scryfall is having problems again, but started poking at it. https://moxfield.com/decks/88B_HVcKbU2IAXMbUTUt4A
last totem
I don’t have a landfall deck in paper, but I throw in [[scapeshift]] into a lot of brews I make
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zenith wedge
So, this deck is a landfall deck but it's far more about resetting the top of your library
last totem
Ah so scapeshift wouldn’t help then?
zenith wedge
I don't think so as much
So, cards like [[brainstorm]] or [[scroll rack]] have the problem of not necessarily finding you lands
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Artifact
, : Exile any number of cards from your hand face down. Put that many cards from the top of your library into your hand. Then look at the exiled cards and put them on top of your library in any order.
zenith wedge
With Kirk, you can attack and shuffle
Or flicker
And it undoes the "scroll rack lock"
last totem
Is it alright if I suggest other cards?
zenith wedge
But you don't have to "search‐search"your library just declare fail to find and shuffle
You can! I just was explaining more because it will just look like a landfall deck
last totem
Tbh I was asking cause I know I’ve sounded…kinda stupid in the past
And wasn’t sure if you’d want to hear anything I’d have to say
Anyway [[Jaheria’s respite]]
[[open the way]]
[[new horizons]] (I think that’s the card I’m remembering)
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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant land
When this Aura enters, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
Enchanted land has ": Add two mana of any one color."
last totem
New horizons was not
zenith wedge
And wasn’t sure if you’d want to hear anything I’d have to say
I'm sorry I've given you that impression!
last totem
I'm sorry I've given you that impression!
I did, to myself
zenith wedge
Like, it's more like a lack of experience than anything else, and you have a reason for your suggestions.
and it also gives me insight on why people don't understand my decks because of how my brain is
So they're useful
My brain also messes up sometimes and I just read a card really wrong.
last totem
…my thoughts were more about the spiteful Dr Who comments I’ve made in the past
zenith wedge
Ahhh
I've seen worse
I've been a fan of Doctor Who for over 40 years now, I've definitely seen worse statements
last totem
…worse?!? I felt horrible after what I said about the show
zenith wedge
Yeah, definitely worse
last totem
Well that’s depressing
At least I can stop feeling guilty over it now though
Also [[horizon explorer]] is probably what I was thinking of earlier
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Creature — Insect Scout
Lands you control enter untapped.
Whenever you attack a player, create a Lander token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.")
Every world is a new garden.
2/4
zenith wedge
Breakthrough update on the [[mog moogle warrior]] deck. I've worked out what each of the dances are. Working out what the triggered spells are now
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zenith wedge
hot plank
Wdym what each of the dances are
zenith wedge
Overview of the Dance ability in FF6 https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Dance_(Final_Fantasy_VI)
hot plank
Ah
zenith wedge
So, part of the thing with Dance is you pick a dance, go into it, and each has 4 spells it can cast
You're then casting a random one from those 4 for the rest of the combat
zenith wedge
So, the dances are all recurrable somehow or create a lot of card advantage
zenith wedge
@urban flare https://moxfield.com/decks/DAXAKLRUs0CnvqdFvdO3-A in case you want to see the list
I still need to update it post TLA
Because I have Airbender's ascension to put in at minimum
zenith wedge
I really feel like this moogle deck is never going to be satisfying somehow
And my brain keeps going to think about other decks like the Neutrinos or Arnyn
Or Aziza
zenith wedge
Oh, I need to finish Arnyn for tomorrow
Because it's June and I want to bring a non-WRX deck tomorrow
[[arnyn]]
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zenith wedge
I have a feeling for the first draft, so I don't go crazy from trying to finish the list, I'm going to go with the "Avg EDHRec B4 and make changes as needed"
Like I don't have [[contamination]]
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you sacrifice a creature.
If a land is tapped for mana, it produces instead of any other type and amount.
zenith wedge
This is what I have. https://moxfield.com/decks/zKrCsg3mZ0S5ImUPFdtW7g
zenith wedge
I want feedback on how unfun this feels.
zenith wedge
I need to figure out how to source an [[earthcraft]] so I don't pay a ton
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jovial nova
I need to figure out how to source an [[earthcraft]] so I don't pay a ton
Have you checked international markets on card trader?
zenith wedge
No, there's a seller on tcg player who's got a heavy play copy for 120 something
I was looking at that
jovial nova
Theres a mp English version on cardtrader for 112, and a sp japanese copy for 108. I shouldn't have looked (a japanese earthcraft is kind of a dream card for me)
zenith wedge
I'm trying to decide if her combos will be effectively unplayable
[[The unstoppable squirrel]]
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zenith wedge
[[The unbeatable]]
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Legendary Creature — Squirrel Human Hero
Do You Like Squirrels? — Whenever The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl enters or attacks, create a 1/1 green Squirrel creature token.
I LOVE Squirrels! — : Create X 1/1 green Squirrel creature tokens, where X is the number of Squirrels you control.
"We're here to eat nuts and kick butts!"
4/4
jovial nova
This seems playable
zenith wedge
She is, but I mean will I do it once and then people go "ehh" even for like b4