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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Creatures you control have vigilance and "
: Surveil 1." (To surveil 1, look at the top card of your library. You may put that card into your graveyard.)
, Exile this card from your graveyard: Return any number of target artifact cards with total mana value 10 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate only as a sorcery.
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cosmic kayak
I don't think the counters subtheme plan works
sweet spoke
id love to hear your thoughts, but id just like to make sure you see the synergy with neerdiv
cosmic kayak
No, I do. I'm talking about some things that are just sort of OK if Neerdiv isn't out
Like the maverick
sweet spoke
No, I do. I'm talking about some things that are just sort of OK if Neerdiv isn'...
i sorta gave up on that boat a while ago tbh.
i dont really have a way of winning if neerdiv is unavailable, all i can do is surveil alot until i probably mill myself
i have a lot of tutors to find neerdiv, and alot of protection for her, and then also alot of recursion aswell.
cosmic kayak
[[Lasyd Prowler]] is one I'd use instead
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Creature — Snake Ranger
When this creature enters, you may mill cards equal to the number of lands you control.
Renew — 
, Exile this card from your graveyard: Put X +1/+1 counters on target creature, where X is the number of land cards in your graveyard. Activate only as a sorcery.
5/5
sweet spoke
its alr in
cosmic kayak
I'm blind then
I need to rearrange it, I don't use categories when reading lists
It makes it harder for me
cosmic kayak
Yeah, that gets confusing for my brain
Rattlewurm
It's just fine. I know it's also ramp from the graveyard
sweet spoke
the problem is i agree the cards your noting are of generally lower card quality
but i NEED cards which trigger neerdiv
ive already probably cut too many
cosmic kayak
No, I understand that
[[forensic researcher]] and [[deeproot pilgrimage]] are ones I would run though
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Creature — Merfolk Detective
: Untap another target permanent you control.
, Collect evidence 3: Tap target creature you don't control. (To collect evidence 3, exile cards with total mana value 3 or greater from your graveyard.)
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cosmic kayak
But I didn't want to suggest them until I helped you find cuts
sweet spoke
you dont think im already on too many untappers?
cosmic kayak
I think the merfolk synergy is very good. Especially with Pilgrimage
sweet spoke
yeh i did like pilgrimage
particularly because its infintie with the intruder alarm
but idk how many different infinite combos i need for finishers
at what point are they no longer finishers and its just a combo deck
cosmic kayak
It already read like a combo deck with intruder alarm and unctus
sweet spoke
i dont think i have any unctus combos
other than ig it does the exact same in neerdivs place
cosmic kayak
are you planning on targeting yourself with neerdiv?
cosmic kayak
OK, that wasn't 100% clear
cosmic kayak
If you want to consider using stasis (in your maybe) you would want to run [[white plume adventurer]] over drumbellower
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sweet spoke
initially i was just going to do like [[exoskeletal armor]] and slowly get neerdiv bigger, but then when i realised i could just infintie combo i changed mny strat
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cosmic kayak
Stasis makes everyone skip their untap but adventurer triggers in every upkeep
sweet spoke
https://scryfall.com/card/clb/49/white-plume-adventurer
too slow no?
cosmic kayak
Getting through a dungeon isn't hard
Stasis makes 4 hours games if you aren't running something that untaps your stuff like [[derevi]]
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Legendary Creature — Bird Wizard
Flying
When Derevi enters and whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may tap or untap target permanent.
: Put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone.
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